@@kahlrhoam6769 also, it would be awesome if expression pedals could contol the volume even if the pedal is off. I like my volume post drives, but sometimes I have an actual amplifier and it would be great if that volume attenuation still worked when iridium is off.
Sean here. Joseph, it sounds like maybe what you need is an actual volume pedal in the chain after Iridium (when using a real amp my volume pedal always goes after any drive and before any verb or delay). Having an expression pedal control a pedal in bypass would be pretty confusing to most people, I think 😛
Excellent video and great performance and explanation! Love the Riverside. It’s a really versatile overdrive tool with that immaculate cleanish sound and the studio compression in the Compadre is just phenomenal! Two of my favorite Strymon!
So much good info and watching a build from start to finish, and then getting to hear it all together in different combinations and contexts! Great job Sean!
My #1 complaint about these Strymon pedals is the need for the TRS to TS splitters. I have three of these and either have to use clunky off-the-shelf splitters or custom wire my own. Surely, one of the output jacks could be wired TRS so I could run a single TRS cable between my Strymon stereo pedals.
Just popped in for a look without researching. I have all older Strymon pedals (6), Are these new versions? Without knowing if they do, or if they don't, they should include those cables with the pedal, or at least offer some high quality ones for sale, no?
absolutely killer playing Sean! I just picked up a Lex V2 and have a BlueSky V2 on the way for my new acoustic board. I absolutely love the Lex V2 already. The dry mix makes that pedal so good for using it with anything, can’t wait for the BlueSky!
Beautiful strat-wrangling at the end there, sir! Playing with such pro commitment. Very well done on the video as well - something in there for everyone (I like the idea of the dual lock strips on the pedals being at right angles to the strips on the board). One other tip for viewers - if you want a firm hold without needing a screwdriver to remove them (I’ve seen pedals and boards damaged by this), try using dual lock on one side and normal Velcro on the other.
Fantastic demonstration on so many levels Sean! Thanks for putting this together. It's easy to tell that being a product specialist for this great Strymon dream technology must be a labour-of-love gig. Not only are you the perfect clinician with a gift for demoing Strymon products, but you are a killer and ever-so-tasty guitar player. So good man! I am up there in years now, so I wanted to build the Holy Grail of pedalboards for myself and stroke it off my bucket list; and I fell upon this vid as I was shopping pedals. So far, I have the BigSky, Lex, DECO, Timeline, Cloudburst (which maybe seems a tad redundant but I have my reasons), Compadre, Sunset and the amazingly noise-free Zuma power supply. I also have lots of expression pedals. Too many now that I see how you are doing this. (*** All power supplies are most definitely NOT created equal! The Zuma is literally ZERO noise.) My original intention was to get this all loaded up for my live solo gigs. But, it's so pretty and clean (and a ton of money!!!) that I decided to keep it at home dedicated to my studio for recording in Logic. So, now, Plan B is to buy a DIG and Ola and Iridium and a second Compadre and who knows what else and assemble a second board for live. PLEASE STOP MAKING GREAT PEDALS! My next step is to dig into all the MIDI control and how much to bring onstage (or not). Your video here made me want to get the Conduit and get it all going. I have no doubt that your Strymon clinics will be a blast for anyone who attends. You do a great job of keeping it fun while making all the grotty tech bits so clear and understandable for even the newbies. You are the perfect tech clinician. May you be blessed on your journey as you bring all of us pedal heads a ton of joy and help us drain our bank accounts dry buying yet more Strymon pedals from Heaven. Cheers Sean. Thanks again.
Most kind, Rick! I left my Product Specialist shoes behind long ago, but I still love talking about gear, so I'm glad that this was helpful! Cheers! Sean
Sean, this was a thorough and informative video. I look forward to more! It would be good to show more about how presets can be stored and incorporated into live playing, as well as post FX for us frustrated MIDI users. Would also like to see more use of your expression pedals. Thx again for all the hard work. I plan on getting at least one more Strymon pedal because of this video.
Great video. I have a lot of Strymon pedals and just finished my board and getting ready to have someone do the Midi for me and show me how to do it on my GigRig G2. I can’t wait. Great playing
"awful weedling" OK BUDDY GO OFF THEN xD For real though I was so sad when you turned of the Flint for the Lead bit at the end. IDK WHAT was going on there with that combo but I may have found a new tone chasing venture off a 1 second clip haha great playing and Killer board!
Thank you for the video. It helped me tremendously. I have most of the Strymon pedals, two pedal train boards, chords, and ordered the Strymon midi stuff along with the cloudburst today
Sean, I enjoyed every minute! I already knew some things but learned many more. I hear you with the eyesight... I’m 53 and in the last 2 years my eyes have done a dive bomb. Yeah, it sucks. My Conduit will be here Thursday and my MC-8 will be here Monday, so this lesson came at a great time . I have collected nearly every Strymon pedal over the years and will be doing almost the same layout you’re doing here, less the new MIDI versions (for now). If you do a follow up, it would be great if you went into a little more detail regarding the MIDI control of the Strymon MIDI-capable pedals, their presets, and the MC-6 for those of us that are completely new to the MIDI/Guitar pedal experience.
The only reason why those pedals sound great is because your an awesome player to begin with.... I would luv to see a dedicated vid on the morning star and how things are set up, I was kinda confuse. thanks for the awesome vid and killer playin...
Killer tones. It's funny how we hold supercomputers in the palm of our hands now but somehow get convinced that we can't make digital sound as good as analog, lol. Also, Zelzah is a total sleeper. I guess people skip it for Mobius. But I love mine and with an MC6 midi controller, I have an awesome envelope, phase, chorus, and flange ready to roll at a moment's notice in a space-saving size. It lets me keep the pedal on the back line because I don't even need to access it too. Also, being able to route the 6-stage into 4-stage or vice-versa OR parallel is fantastic. Finally, the stereo spread on Zelzah sounds awesome in my Roland JC-40. Fin.
Thank you for sharing! A quick question… is there no way to get a Timeline, Mobius, Sunset and a BlueskyV2 all connected via MIDI without a MIDI-hub or a Conduit? Can I split the TRS signal from the last out and go to both sunset and bluesky or something? Thanks🔥.
I’m a little confused. You set the MC6 up to control all the pedals right? But at the end I don’t see you use it to control the pedals? What did I miss
Amazing Sean- it's almost like you live this stuff... these are often glossed over things- easy things like what type of 'velcro'... eh Dual Lock- the black vs white.
Awesome video! Did you guys use a daisy chain with the Zuma to power the conduits and the morningstar from one tap? Would that cause any grounding issues/noise? Thanks!
Howdy there - Sean explains the basis behind the decisions that were made in the video, but to summarize, this build was for a specific set of demos, where the main board was on a table for an overhead camera and the mini board was on the floor. Absolutely, in an ideal world everything should be connected to Conduits so that MIDI control for the whole board can happen, but in this instance it wasn't necessary as the main focus for the demo were the pedals on the table, and the drive pedals on the floor were just there to help with some extra hair on the tone in certain examples. That also means that Riverside and Compadre are also not connected to MIDI as well. Hope that helps!
Sean hi! Iridium with affects Loop please? ...and fully expression-able between two amps? I am in love with my Riverside with boost and expression pedal... I have 9 set sounds (Fav toe or heels up On Toe up or down + Boost on each one or solo boost +nine sounds ) and infinite blending between toe up or down gain from soft crunch. But I cant justify the iridium without an effects loop for any use of Reverb or Delay pedals. Good luck with your hands. Make an Iridium MkII like an amp with an effects Loop and have a clean and dirty channel with a loop
is this only for the new pedal line, or is the timeline/mobius/bigsky a worse alternative than having all of these boxes? Anyways, this sounds great, especially the new Deco:)
Even with MIDI, these new pedals are totally different from our big three pedals in terms of the algorithms as well as functionality! For example, there are sounds contained in the algorithms for these smaller pedals that are not found in TL/BS/MB, and vice versa. Plus, you'd still need either a MultiSwitch Plus or MIDI controller to make the most of the presets and what not on these smaller pedals, as opposed to the bigger pedals that already have presets, a display screen, multiple banks, etc. Hope this helps!
I have a Sunset going in front of the amp an a Flint in the FX-loop (Standard setup Reverb -> Tremolo). Planning to get the Dig but not sure where to put it in the chain to get the most out of it. Should it go after the Sunet/before the amp, in the FX-loop and in that case before or after the flint?
The traditional option would be to put it in your FX loop before reverb, in this case Flint. That being said, feel free to experiment with it before your amp or even before Sunset too to experiment with some different tones! Delay -> overdriven amp is not as clean of a sound, but is a cool one nonetheless.
Hey there - Conduit is indeed a USB MIDI host - it has a USB-C port directly on the unit, and it works as a interface for your computer perfectly. I hope that helps!
Loved the video - very informative. I am just setting my Strymon collection up! Do you or can you tell me what pancake plugs and cables you used to make the TRS to TS Y cables? Thank you!
Hey there - the inexpensive pancake plugs came from Amazon, and are "fine". The really nice ones that I used for the MIDI cables were purchased from WestCoast Pedalboard, and they're killer. The wires came from a box in the garage, as I've build and torn down MANY full recording studios over the years as I've moved around the country. So I have a bunch of boxes full of multipair wire that I grab from time-to-time when I need balanced or TRS connections for some reason. I hope that helps! Glad you enjoyed the vid.
I love this video and am just learning about midi. How can you send midi info from one pedal to another? I'm using an HX Stomp to send midi to an El Capistan v2. I want the midi to flow through on another channel to a Cloudburst. Can this be done with a cable or do I need a Conduit or something similar?
Hey Dan! Since El Capistan V2 only has one TRS MIDI connection that serves as both a MIDI IN and MIDI out, it would be better to use something like a Conduit to split the MIDI signal across multiple TRS MIDI devices. If you need any help setting up MIDI on your Strymon pedals, don't hesitate to reach out at support@strymon.net, thanks!
So I am buying a RJM 6x.. I’ve never done midi before and i have 8 strymon pedals (compadre, riverside, sunset, Ola, flint, dig,deco and big sky) i want to be only in mono.. so I buy 2 conduit boxes? To hook up the pedals with 1/4 midi .. how do I hook up the big sky with the 5 pin ..lol I know I know nothing and it will be difficult but just trying to figure out the basic of how to hook it up and what cables I will need..
Hey there Julie - it might be best to hit up our support team, so that they can guide you a bit better than I can via RUclips comments. Hit up support@strymon.net and Hugo's team will get you sorted out! Cheers.
A strange reply but I guess you could look at that way. but you might want to look at letting dealers decide what to sell your pedals for instead setting the price yourself of what dealer has to sell them for. IMHO. Your pedals are $349.00 or higher I believe right now. for that I could almost get a Boss MS-3. Headrush MX-5 or the POD GO. Listen and compare any of your overdrive pedals to Wamplers Tumnis or the new Moxie. $ 149.00 . and they sound killer and they are small. IMHO. Compare Keelys new HALO delay /Reverb. to the Blue Sky and see what you think and its almost 1/2 the size. Those pedals are flying off the shelves They Don't get me wrong, I think you make great pedals but people want their boards smaller and easy to carry. yes sound is important but "Real Estate" on a pedal board is a close 2nd.. As you can tell by the photo above all of your pedals ( I haven't even brought up the time line size. take up alot of space on a pedal board In the end a good player can make any pedal sound great. My comments are only to be taken positive feedback to your company.and keep making great pedals. One day i hope to get a FLINT (oh yea, 1 suggestion on the Flint. Have a gain control because when the tremolo is engaged on most tremolo pedals the volume drops. at least in my experience. Fender's Treverb ( I guess its their version of the FLINT) has one but the pedal is way to noisy when engaged. Aloha
Sean here - the reverbs in Flint are killer, so I definitely didn't choose one over the other. I was just fooling around with the settings the pedals already had, and Flint was earlier in the signal chain. With blueSky being last it made sense to have it be the master reverb for the noodling I did. Hope that helps.
How many people are wishing for a Strymon Floor model with all the routing possibilities and ease of a helix? Even better a collaboration with Chase Bliss and Meris!! I imagine literally every worship player would buy it. 🙂
Hi there Sebastian - the guitar plugs right into the tuner first and then goes through all of the pedals. The blueSky is last in the chain, and that goes right into the interface for recording. All of the amp sounds are coming from our Iridium pedal, which is right after Deco and right before Flint in the chain. There is nothing off camera that was used to make sounds. Hope that helps!
From a tone suck standpoint: Would it be favorable to chain up Strymon pedals and control them via midi, or connect Strymon pedals individually to a switcher? If I connect them to a switcher, I have longer cables, but I only chain up the pedals I'm actually using at a time.
That's a great point. For starters, you really shouldn't see any tone suck issues with any Strymon pedals. We use high quality buffers, so if you have them in buffered bypass, there shouldn't be any issues with volume or tone loss with longer cable runs. As far as MIDI vs. placing them in a loop switcher, you can have them outside the switcher and then bypass/engage them via MIDI just fine - that won't give you any issues. Only thing you'd want them in a looper for is if you have a looper that can change pedal order, as that's not something you can do via MIDI. Let me know if that helps and answers your question!
What settings did you use on the iridium? Appears that it was same throughout the demo. Sounded great and would be interested in setting as a platform for adding the riverside or deco Thanks
Hey there Scott - just zoom in on the picture that shows Iridium - I don't think he has moved much but the gain knob in quite some time 🤣. Hope that helps!
Here you go: Jump Amp Cab C (be aware that he may have a different cab loaded) Bass - full Mid - 1 o’clock Treble - 2.5 o’clock Room - off Level - expression pedal 12 o’clock max Hope that helps!
I have a question: is there difference in the sound between the new Flint V2 and the old one? I ask that because here in Brazil I only can find the first version whiteout the USB port.
Both sound just as great! Only real sonic change as that the slowest possible speed on the tremolo side was increased to go even slower, and a pre-delay secondary function for the reverb as added. Hope this helps! :)
@@LiamNashMiller The Deco is a Swiss army knife in my opinion, it's very versatile (the double track function can also do chorus/phaser/echo stuff). I'm looking at getting a Deco V2. I have a V1 that is essentially new in box (never been on a board!). If you'd be interested in that let me know and I'll figure out how to proceed.
I always thought it looked cool having strymon pedals up against each other. But I find it doesn't work. The left switch on one pedal is too close to the right switch on the next. So it's really hard to just hit one. Then if you pedals are held with velcro, they wiggle just slightly when you step on them. So your nice strymon pedals just scratch each other. It takes more space, but I put mine finger-width apart.
The concern on this build was fitting it inside of a suitcase, as the board was going to be on a table (which makes it more clear on an overhead camera). As a result, the closeness of the footswitches was less of a concern. I hope that helps!
Sean here - if you listen to Mr. Mister's first big hit, 'Broken Wings' - or watch their killer live version of it on Saturday Night Live from back in the era - Steve Farris does all sorts of swells in the verses, but they have a ton of drive/distortion on them, which means that the volume pedal is coming after the preamp. I always run my volume pedal in the amp's effects loop as the first device, if the amp has one, so that I can use it like a master volume before the time-based effects like delays and reverbs, which means that I can set a master level, or swell fully distorted tones into those effects. If the volume pedal was at the beginning of the signal chain, the swell would affect the amount of distortion as well. I hope that helps!
Hey there Fred - you can get the four-conductor Mogami wire almost anywhere (these came out of a huge box of leftover 24 channel wiring harnesses from studios gone by), and the small, nice-looking ends came from WestCoast Pedalboard. The bigger, more normal and clunky ends came from Amazon. The smaller ones are far better, FYI. Hope that helps!
@@strymon Mmh, it seems that WestCoast Pedalboard provides such cables (Mogami 2528 Unbalanced Y Cable in 6" length, right angle, flat)... Looks good, no?
they had to fit in a small suitcase and were controlled with his hands, as the larger of the two boards was sitting four feet off of the ground on a table. The size of the suitcase and the weight of the board in luggage was the main concern, if that makes sense.
Challenge: Make me one and prove to me that it’s useful on stage!!!! Your iridium is not the easiest thing to produce the right useful sound out of its programming. Once you get it it’s nice. But it takes a while.
Nice job, but I don’t understand why he ruined the aesthetic of the board with the sloppy wire routing. All the cables should be directed downward and cleanly routed along the edges. Also, that tangled mess he grouped under the big board has nowhere to go and the whole weight of the board rests on the cables the way it’s shown. You would need at least some extra feet to raise the back rail so as not to pinch every cable and wait for eventual failure. He spent the time to drill the power cable hole, why not add another route hole for the cables?
Hey there - there isn't any weight on the cables at all, and as Sean mentioned it was intended to be on a table top for a couple of demos, where it would never encounter the pressure from a foot. There wasn't any reason to create a perfect cable layout (where each cable would be custom-measured, routed and soldered), since it was only going to be together for a month or so. That's a different task, a different desired outcome, and thus a different video. Hope that helps!
This was a nice video with a lot of interesting information. However, Strymon continues to ship an essentially terrible TRS cable with its >$300 pedals. That's a disservice to your own product. Why bother?
Hey there, glad you liked the video, but sorry to hear you had a bad experience with those cables! If you had any issues with them please shoot us an email at support@strymon.net and we'd be happy to send you some replacements. Thanks!
Hearing the duallock click into place is ABSURDLY satisfying
Until you want to take a pedal off.
Hey Sean, No one has ever taken the time to explain such a setup before. Thanks a million 😊❤
Incredible stuff. You should market a Strymon pedalboard with some of your pedals. I'll definitely go for one.
And get the Iridium a straight JCM800 & a effects loop.
Then, Strymon could just take my $.
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@@kahlrhoam6769 also, it would be awesome if expression pedals could contol the volume even if the pedal is off. I like my volume post drives, but sometimes I have an actual amplifier and it would be great if that volume attenuation still worked when iridium is off.
Sean here. Joseph, it sounds like maybe what you need is an actual volume pedal in the chain after Iridium (when using a real amp my volume pedal always goes after any drive and before any verb or delay). Having an expression pedal control a pedal in bypass would be pretty confusing to most people, I think 😛
@@strymon I guess if you think so. I think the compadre is a good example of what I'm describing. The hx stomp does what I'm describing. 🤷♂️
Excellent video, Sean. You're the man.
Thanks! :)
Excellent video and great performance and explanation!
Love the Riverside. It’s a really versatile overdrive tool with that immaculate cleanish sound and the studio compression in the Compadre is just phenomenal!
Two of my favorite Strymon!
Your opening licks and sound were just beautiful and phenomenal. Thanks for sharing this video
So much good info and watching a build from start to finish, and then getting to hear it all together in different combinations and contexts! Great job Sean!
Sean is the best and explaining technical in a non-technical way. Thanks!
I love these kind of videos. You are a great presenter very down to earth.
My #1 complaint about these Strymon pedals is the need for the TRS to TS splitters. I have three of these and either have to use clunky off-the-shelf splitters or custom wire my own. Surely, one of the output jacks could be wired TRS so I could run a single TRS cable between my Strymon stereo pedals.
This absolutely should be standard in all Strymons.
Just popped in for a look without researching. I have all older Strymon pedals (6), Are these new versions? Without knowing if they do, or if they don't, they should include those cables with the pedal, or at least offer some high quality ones for sale, no?
Would LOVE to have the money for a completely Strymon board!! Gushing!
You did a great job; educational AND fun! 😎
After seeing this video, I want to buy every pedal on this board. And maybe borrow some of Sean's chops. And that's all. That's all I need.
absolutely killer playing Sean! I just picked up a Lex V2 and have a BlueSky V2 on the way for my new acoustic board. I absolutely love the Lex V2 already. The dry mix makes that pedal so good for using it with anything, can’t wait for the BlueSky!
Why do I enjoy watching your videos? Because you are interesting and easy to understand. And I always come away learning a lot. Thanks!!
Most kind Johnny! Thankee!
SEAN!!!!!! Hope you are well good seeing you on the tube!
FANTASTIC!
EHX has now a switch controller that you can program to do all the pedal combinations you want. Cool.
a great video Sean, down to earth and funny like we have known you demoing other brands
Beautiful strat-wrangling at the end there, sir! Playing with such pro commitment. Very well done on the video as well - something in there for everyone (I like the idea of the dual lock strips on the pedals being at right angles to the strips on the board). One other tip for viewers - if you want a firm hold without needing a screwdriver to remove them (I’ve seen pedals and boards damaged by this), try using dual lock on one side and normal Velcro on the other.
Fantastic demonstration on so many levels Sean! Thanks for putting this together. It's easy to tell that being a product specialist for this great Strymon dream technology must be a labour-of-love gig. Not only are you the perfect clinician with a gift for demoing Strymon products, but you are a killer and ever-so-tasty guitar player. So good man! I am up there in years now, so I wanted to build the Holy Grail of pedalboards for myself and stroke it off my bucket list; and I fell upon this vid as I was shopping pedals. So far, I have the BigSky, Lex, DECO, Timeline, Cloudburst (which maybe seems a tad redundant but I have my reasons), Compadre, Sunset and the amazingly noise-free Zuma power supply. I also have lots of expression pedals. Too many now that I see how you are doing this. (*** All power supplies are most definitely NOT created equal! The Zuma is literally ZERO noise.) My original intention was to get this all loaded up for my live solo gigs. But, it's so pretty and clean (and a ton of money!!!) that I decided to keep it at home dedicated to my studio for recording in Logic. So, now, Plan B is to buy a DIG and Ola and Iridium and a second Compadre and who knows what else and assemble a second board for live. PLEASE STOP MAKING GREAT PEDALS! My next step is to dig into all the MIDI control and how much to bring onstage (or not). Your video here made me want to get the Conduit and get it all going. I have no doubt that your Strymon clinics will be a blast for anyone who attends. You do a great job of keeping it fun while making all the grotty tech bits so clear and understandable for even the newbies. You are the perfect tech clinician. May you be blessed on your journey as you bring all of us pedal heads a ton of joy and help us drain our bank accounts dry buying yet more Strymon pedals from Heaven. Cheers Sean. Thanks again.
Most kind, Rick! I left my Product Specialist shoes behind long ago, but I still love talking about gear, so I'm glad that this was helpful! Cheers! Sean
Sean, this was a thorough and informative video. I look forward to more! It would be good to show more about how presets can be stored and incorporated into live playing, as well as post FX for us frustrated MIDI users. Would also like to see more use of your expression pedals. Thx again for all the hard work. I plan on getting at least one more Strymon pedal because of this video.
Great video. I have a lot of Strymon pedals and just finished my board and getting ready to have someone do the Midi for me and show me how to do it on my GigRig G2. I can’t wait.
Great playing
Hell a playing from Sean!
"awful weedling" OK BUDDY GO OFF THEN xD For real though I was so sad when you turned of the Flint for the Lead bit at the end. IDK WHAT was going on there with that combo but I may have found a new tone chasing venture off a 1 second clip haha great playing and Killer board!
Thank you for the video. It helped me tremendously. I have most of the Strymon pedals, two pedal train boards, chords, and ordered the Strymon midi stuff along with the cloudburst today
Sweet! Enjoy your Cloudburst :) feel free to reach out if you need any help with the MIDI side of things.
Thank you. I just received the midi hub and deco v2 yesterday. Enjoying the cloudburst
Great job, brother! Thanks!
You guys should sell those trs to dual trs cables!
EBS ICY-30 Right Angle Flat Insert Cable - 30 cm
Great video. It touches about everything involved in building a pedalboard.
Thanks for this. Super helpful for me as I begin my decent into Strymon midi madness. 😅
Thank you.
You're welcome!
With the DualLock, you only need a little bit on each corner of the pedal - like, half a square. It’s still not going anywhere…
Great video ! Hi To Spencer and Cooper ;-)
Sean, I enjoyed every minute! I already knew some things but learned many more. I hear you with the eyesight... I’m 53 and in the last 2 years my eyes have done a dive bomb. Yeah, it sucks.
My Conduit will be here Thursday and my MC-8 will be here Monday, so this lesson came at a great time . I have collected nearly every Strymon pedal over the years and will be doing almost the same layout you’re doing here, less the new MIDI versions (for now).
If you do a follow up, it would be great if you went into a little more detail regarding the MIDI control of the Strymon MIDI-capable pedals, their presets, and the MC-6 for those of us that are completely new to the MIDI/Guitar pedal experience.
Thanks for the feedback!! We definitely want to start doing more educational MIDI content.
Very helpful. Thank you so much.
Looks and sounds great.
Thank you! :)
Didn’t this fellow, used to work for Line6 a long time ago?
No matter, brilliant video.
I’d do it.
If we had a lottery in Hawaii….😢
The only reason why those pedals sound great is because your an awesome player to begin with.... I would luv to see a dedicated vid on the morning star and how things are set up, I was kinda confuse. thanks for the awesome vid and killer playin...
Great video is this the same Sean Halley that use to be with Line6?
Killer tones. It's funny how we hold supercomputers in the palm of our hands now but somehow get convinced that we can't make digital sound as good as analog, lol. Also, Zelzah is a total sleeper. I guess people skip it for Mobius. But I love mine and with an MC6 midi controller, I have an awesome envelope, phase, chorus, and flange ready to roll at a moment's notice in a space-saving size. It lets me keep the pedal on the back line because I don't even need to access it too. Also, being able to route the 6-stage into 4-stage or vice-versa OR parallel is fantastic. Finally, the stereo spread on Zelzah sounds awesome in my Roland JC-40. Fin.
Yes!! Zelzah is super underrated, glad to hear you're digging yours!! :)
My God I want to build an all-Strymon rig.
Thank you for sharing! A quick question… is there no way to get a Timeline, Mobius, Sunset and a BlueskyV2 all connected via MIDI without a MIDI-hub or a Conduit? Can I split the TRS signal from the last out and go to both sunset and bluesky or something? Thanks🔥.
I’m a little confused. You set the MC6 up to control all the pedals right? But at the end I don’t see you use it to control the pedals? What did I miss
Zelzah deserves to be talked about so much
Amazing Sean- it's almost like you live this stuff... these are often glossed over things- easy things like what type of 'velcro'... eh Dual Lock- the black vs white.
Awesome video! Did you guys use a daisy chain with the Zuma to power the conduits and the morningstar from one tap? Would that cause any grounding issues/noise? Thanks!
Hello, may I ask why the Sunset is not in the MIDI chain? Wouldn't one want to change presets for it too?
Howdy there - Sean explains the basis behind the decisions that were made in the video, but to summarize, this build was for a specific set of demos, where the main board was on a table for an overhead camera and the mini board was on the floor. Absolutely, in an ideal world everything should be connected to Conduits so that MIDI control for the whole board can happen, but in this instance it wasn't necessary as the main focus for the demo were the pedals on the table, and the drive pedals on the floor were just there to help with some extra hair on the tone in certain examples. That also means that Riverside and Compadre are also not connected to MIDI as well. Hope that helps!
I had more ocd over the fact that he covered the serial # sticker on the Zelzah than the dog hair.
Sean hi!
Iridium with affects Loop please?
...and fully expression-able between two amps?
I am in love with my Riverside with boost and expression pedal... I have 9 set sounds
(Fav toe or heels up On Toe up or down + Boost on each one or solo boost +nine sounds ) and infinite blending between toe up or down gain from soft crunch.
But I cant justify the iridium without an effects loop for any use of Reverb or Delay pedals.
Good luck with your hands.
Make an Iridium MkII like an amp with an effects Loop and have a clean and dirty channel with a loop
Looking into the midi capability. I use OnSong and it would be great to have it send the midi to set up my pedals per song. Appreciated the midi part.
is this only for the new pedal line, or is the timeline/mobius/bigsky a worse alternative than having all of these boxes? Anyways, this sounds great, especially the new Deco:)
Even with MIDI, these new pedals are totally different from our big three pedals in terms of the algorithms as well as functionality! For example, there are sounds contained in the algorithms for these smaller pedals that are not found in TL/BS/MB, and vice versa. Plus, you'd still need either a MultiSwitch Plus or MIDI controller to make the most of the presets and what not on these smaller pedals, as opposed to the bigger pedals that already have presets, a display screen, multiple banks, etc. Hope this helps!
I have a Sunset going in front of the amp an a Flint in the FX-loop (Standard setup Reverb -> Tremolo). Planning to get the Dig but not sure where to put it in the chain to get the most out of it.
Should it go after the Sunet/before the amp, in the FX-loop and in that case before or after the flint?
The traditional option would be to put it in your FX loop before reverb, in this case Flint. That being said, feel free to experiment with it before your amp or even before Sunset too to experiment with some different tones! Delay -> overdriven amp is not as clean of a sound, but is a cool one nonetheless.
Thats an awesome video! I just wished that the Conduit has USB Host MIDI capability too.
Hey there - Conduit is indeed a USB MIDI host - it has a USB-C port directly on the unit, and it works as a interface for your computer perfectly. I hope that helps!
Loved the video - very informative. I am just setting my Strymon collection up! Do you or can you tell me what pancake plugs and cables you used to make the TRS to TS Y cables? Thank you!
Hey there - the inexpensive pancake plugs came from Amazon, and are "fine". The really nice ones that I used for the MIDI cables were purchased from WestCoast Pedalboard, and they're killer. The wires came from a box in the garage, as I've build and torn down MANY full recording studios over the years as I've moved around the country. So I have a bunch of boxes full of multipair wire that I grab from time-to-time when I need balanced or TRS connections for some reason. I hope that helps! Glad you enjoyed the vid.
CLEVER LAD
I love this video and am just learning about midi. How can you send midi info from one pedal to another? I'm using an HX Stomp to send midi to an El Capistan v2. I want the midi to flow through on another channel to a Cloudburst. Can this be done with a cable or do I need a Conduit or something similar?
Hey Dan! Since El Capistan V2 only has one TRS MIDI connection that serves as both a MIDI IN and MIDI out, it would be better to use something like a Conduit to split the MIDI signal across multiple TRS MIDI devices. If you need any help setting up MIDI on your Strymon pedals, don't hesitate to reach out at support@strymon.net, thanks!
5 stars! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Strymon should sell those 2X TS to TRS cables.
@ghost mall Googled such cables. Unsuccessfully. Not so short, shorter is better, and not flat.
So I am buying a RJM 6x.. I’ve never done midi before and i have 8 strymon pedals (compadre, riverside, sunset, Ola, flint, dig,deco and big sky) i want to be only in mono.. so I buy 2 conduit boxes? To hook up the pedals with 1/4 midi .. how do I hook up the big sky with the 5 pin ..lol I know I know nothing and it will be difficult but just trying to figure out the basic of how to hook it up and what cables I will need..
Hey there Julie - it might be best to hit up our support team, so that they can guide you a bit better than I can via RUclips comments. Hit up support@strymon.net and Hugo's team will get you sorted out! Cheers.
what's the settings on the blue sky?
A strange reply but I guess you could look at that way. but you might want to look at letting dealers decide what to sell your pedals for instead setting the price yourself of what dealer has to sell them for. IMHO. Your pedals are $349.00 or higher I believe right now. for that I could almost get a Boss MS-3. Headrush MX-5 or the POD GO. Listen and compare any of your overdrive pedals to Wamplers Tumnis or the new Moxie. $ 149.00 . and they sound killer and they are small. IMHO. Compare Keelys new HALO delay /Reverb. to the Blue Sky and see what you think and its almost 1/2 the size. Those pedals are flying off the shelves They Don't get me wrong, I think you make great pedals but people want their boards smaller and easy to carry. yes sound is important but "Real Estate" on a pedal board is a close 2nd.. As you can tell by the photo above all of your pedals ( I haven't even brought up the time line size. take up alot of space on a pedal board In the end a good player can make any pedal sound great. My comments are only to be taken positive feedback to your company.and keep making great pedals. One day i hope to get a FLINT (oh yea, 1 suggestion on the Flint. Have a gain control because when the tremolo is engaged on most tremolo pedals the volume drops. at least in my experience. Fender's Treverb ( I guess its their version of the FLINT) has one but the pedal is way to noisy when engaged. Aloha
With all these new V2 models appearing: does Strymon also have a new version of the Volante planned?
I wonder why he chooses the reverb in the Blue Sky over the Flint? is the Flint reverb too dark?
Sean here - the reverbs in Flint are killer, so I definitely didn't choose one over the other. I was just fooling around with the settings the pedals already had, and Flint was earlier in the signal chain. With blueSky being last it made sense to have it be the master reverb for the noodling I did. Hope that helps.
How many people are wishing for a Strymon Floor model with all the routing possibilities and ease of a helix?
Even better a collaboration with Chase Bliss and Meris!!
I imagine literally every worship player would buy it. 🙂
Hi Can you show as well where is guitar input and amp ?
Hi there Sebastian - the guitar plugs right into the tuner first and then goes through all of the pedals. The blueSky is last in the chain, and that goes right into the interface for recording. All of the amp sounds are coming from our Iridium pedal, which is right after Deco and right before Flint in the chain. There is nothing off camera that was used to make sounds. Hope that helps!
From a tone suck standpoint: Would it be favorable to chain up Strymon pedals and control them via midi, or connect Strymon pedals individually to a switcher? If I connect them to a switcher, I have longer cables, but I only chain up the pedals I'm actually using at a time.
That's a great point. For starters, you really shouldn't see any tone suck issues with any Strymon pedals. We use high quality buffers, so if you have them in buffered bypass, there shouldn't be any issues with volume or tone loss with longer cable runs. As far as MIDI vs. placing them in a loop switcher, you can have them outside the switcher and then bypass/engage them via MIDI just fine - that won't give you any issues. Only thing you'd want them in a looper for is if you have a looper that can change pedal order, as that's not something you can do via MIDI. Let me know if that helps and answers your question!
Shouldn’t Strymon make a switcher for their pedals? :)
What settings did you use on the iridium? Appears that it was same throughout the demo. Sounded great and would be interested in setting as a platform for adding the riverside or deco
Thanks
Hey there Scott - just zoom in on the picture that shows Iridium - I don't think he has moved much but the gain knob in quite some time 🤣. Hope that helps!
@@strymon thanks but I can’t quite capture it at the angles to see settings zoomed in only gets blurry
Here you go:
Jump Amp
Cab C (be aware that he may have a different cab loaded)
Bass - full
Mid - 1 o’clock
Treble - 2.5 o’clock
Room - off
Level - expression pedal 12 o’clock max
Hope that helps!
What i always find hilarious is that all guitar players work on their shit on the floor, including myself.
Thus the dog hair. Dang it! 🤪
I have a question: is there difference in the sound between the new Flint V2 and the old one? I ask that because here in Brazil I only can find the first version whiteout the USB port.
Both sound just as great! Only real sonic change as that the slowest possible speed on the tremolo side was increased to go even slower, and a pre-delay secondary function for the reverb as added. Hope this helps! :)
All right. I think I'll stay with the V1 anyway. The cost would be too much for this upgrade, since your website don't send it abroad. Cheers!
Why don't you develop and sell a multi effector which contains all the functionalities in the huge complex board?
Because they want you to spend $6000 on the pedals instead…
Have any of these commentators purchased a Strymon Iridium?
I’ll watch the video.
The Iridium is great live or in the studio. Beautiful sound.
Got one, super happy with it👍
Is the deco v2 worth it. I am thinking on buying myself one for a double track/boost pedal.
We definitely think so, especially if you're a MIDI user!
@@strymon Well I won’t be using it in a midi situation. I will give it some extra thought.
@@LiamNashMiller The Deco is a Swiss army knife in my opinion, it's very versatile (the double track function can also do chorus/phaser/echo stuff). I'm looking at getting a Deco V2. I have a V1 that is essentially new in box (never been on a board!). If you'd be interested in that let me know and I'll figure out how to proceed.
@@grega1207 I plan on getting one for my home studio at some point.
I always thought it looked cool having strymon pedals up against each other. But I find it doesn't work. The left switch on one pedal is too close to the right switch on the next. So it's really hard to just hit one. Then if you pedals are held with velcro, they wiggle just slightly when you step on them. So your nice strymon pedals just scratch each other. It takes more space, but I put mine finger-width apart.
The concern on this build was fitting it inside of a suitcase, as the board was going to be on a table (which makes it more clear on an overhead camera). As a result, the closeness of the footswitches was less of a concern. I hope that helps!
Does anyone know what the "Mr. Mister" reference at 12:05 is about?
Sean here - if you listen to Mr. Mister's first big hit, 'Broken Wings' - or watch their killer live version of it on Saturday Night Live from back in the era - Steve Farris does all sorts of swells in the verses, but they have a ton of drive/distortion on them, which means that the volume pedal is coming after the preamp. I always run my volume pedal in the amp's effects loop as the first device, if the amp has one, so that I can use it like a master volume before the time-based effects like delays and reverbs, which means that I can set a master level, or swell fully distorted tones into those effects. If the volume pedal was at the beginning of the signal chain, the swell would affect the amount of distortion as well. I hope that helps!
@@strymon Thanks! Very useful video; I learned a ton.
Hi,
Where did you purcahse these cables & connectors ?
Hey there Fred - you can get the four-conductor Mogami wire almost anywhere (these came out of a huge box of leftover 24 channel wiring harnesses from studios gone by), and the small, nice-looking ends came from WestCoast Pedalboard. The bigger, more normal and clunky ends came from Amazon. The smaller ones are far better, FYI. Hope that helps!
@@strymon Ok, thanks!
@@strymon Mmh, it seems that WestCoast Pedalboard provides such cables (Mogami 2528 Unbalanced Y Cable in 6" length, right angle, flat)... Looks good, no?
Step 1 - have a billion dollars
2 billion, just in case you need more Velcro and zip ties!
Sounds like a million bucks!! ..., probably is what it costs as well..😉
Cash cow! Is this a $8,000 board? $10,000 maybe?? What would this board cost all in?!?!
At least $5 would be our guess. 😜
Wow, a $5000.00+ pedal board
These days that's just a single original Klon! 🤪
"mise en place" lol
The pedals are too closed to each other though.
they had to fit in a small suitcase and were controlled with his hands, as the larger of the two boards was sitting four feet off of the ground on a table. The size of the suitcase and the weight of the board in luggage was the main concern, if that makes sense.
Challenge:
Make me one and prove to me that it’s useful on stage!!!! Your iridium is not the easiest thing to produce the right useful sound out of its programming. Once you get it it’s nice. But it takes a while.
"Hey you ever think out pedals are too big"
*picks up 5th pedal board to fit 2 more strymon pedals*
"nah"
We need to make them bigger to hold all the tone 🤠
Nice job, but I don’t understand why he ruined the aesthetic of the board with the sloppy wire routing. All the cables should be directed downward and cleanly routed along the edges. Also, that tangled mess he grouped under the big board has nowhere to go and the whole weight of the board rests on the cables the way it’s shown. You would need at least some extra feet to raise the back rail so as not to pinch every cable and wait for eventual failure. He spent the time to drill the power cable hole, why not add another route hole for the cables?
Hey there - there isn't any weight on the cables at all, and as Sean mentioned it was intended to be on a table top for a couple of demos, where it would never encounter the pressure from a foot. There wasn't any reason to create a perfect cable layout (where each cable would be custom-measured, routed and soldered), since it was only going to be together for a month or so. That's a different task, a different desired outcome, and thus a different video. Hope that helps!
This was a nice video with a lot of interesting information. However, Strymon continues to ship an essentially terrible TRS cable with its >$300 pedals. That's a disservice to your own product. Why bother?
Hey there, glad you liked the video, but sorry to hear you had a bad experience with those cables!
If you had any issues with them please shoot us an email at support@strymon.net and we'd be happy to send you some replacements. Thanks!