DJI Goggles 2 Don't Get Too Excited
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Really appreciate the honest hobbyist review Andy. As an original V1 owner I kind of read between the lines and bought a like new set of V2’s for half their original price. Covering at least all my current air units and hopefully the upcoming 03. Keep up the great honest reviews mate.
These are my first fpv goggles and I have to say that the form factor is very important to me. Being able to carry it around easily means it's way more likely that I'll at least go out and fly a bit. I found that for me, convenience is king!!!
Sorry Fatshark, it's been a pleasure, but I just found someone way more attractive and up-to-date.
It's been nice spending time with you, but you became an old-tech and didn't care much about improving to keep me around.
I know, it will hurt but, you can't beat the power and beauty of an Apple design.
Welcome DJI to my FPV world, but be aware that I'm also flirting with HDZero, she really is an eye-catcher too! 😁
As always Andy, you get to the nub of the matter and independently point out those annoying details about products that others ignore or gloss over. And I agree, these major manufacturers will always stop communicating with reviewers if there is any hint of negativity - as I found out to my own cost. Keep up the great work.
I’m so happy to have Apple-certified ears for AirPods and DJI-certified face for these goggles. They are an absolute perfect fit for me
I'll stick with my V2 goggles. I got the better foam, got a little square of pluck foam and slowly but surely plucked tiny pieces away until it's gets rid of ALL of the light leak around my nose. That newest foam makes the V2's fit perfect, and I got a Fat Strap to replace that over the head strap. I honestly thought that worked pretty good, except when you wanted to pull the goggles up and have them sit on the top of your forehead. WRONG! The Fat Strap works soooooo much better it's not even close and they have dozens of patterns, so something for everyone! Comfort is AmaZing!
I also ordered prescription lenses from RHO-Lens in Germany and OH MY GOD! My V2's are ULTRA CRYSTAL CLEAR! From one side of the screen to the other! P E R F E C T ! What a great value those lenses were! No having to fidget with my glasses to get them in and out of the goggles. And, so much clearer! So, get the new foam, get a 2" x 2" piece of foam and trim it ever so slowly for perfect nose fit. Get a Fat Strap and be amazed at how great it works! And if you wear glasses, get RHO - Lens to make you custom lenses to your prescription! Mine V2's can't get any better! Seriously, they are incredible! 😎🤘
PS....add the URUAV analog adapter and the V3 metal case ($29 for the pair) and have analog on or off in 3 seconds! Solid as a rock, works with any analog module, and it doesn't stick out a mile like the BD one Andy had on his goggles. Because of that, I was able to add the very thin and stealth iFlight Crystal antenna array to my V2's and that made analog and digital PURE PERFECTION!
Fatstrap is ace. Have had mine for a while and it just works perfectly with those V2/V1. The sponge foam is better but even the DJI stock foam was not even close to as bad as the comfort/fit issues I personally have with the new Goggles 2. I do not know what they were thinking by plastic molding the nose with such a flat shape by default. It screws people like me with big nose bridges.
You also get way more battery life. The new googles only support 2s.
@@ogfpv1206 That's the most stupid thing DJI did! I got that little rechargeable battery with the V2 goggles and it was worthless! So worthless, I sold it!
The V2 goggles didn't seem to work as well on it, because as soon as that tiny battery lost some power, the goggles didn't function as well... Not as solid. Then it would drop a little more and they wouldn't work anymore. Even though it still had power, they'd get below 7 volts and forget it! I now use 4s 1200mw and not only is it rock solid, but it runs for a long, long time per pack. No comparison how much better 4s works! 😎🤘
Yesterday I got to fly the avata for the first time, it was in the evening. I was pretty in love with the quad itself. Now as for the goggles I share similar problems but not as severe? The display was set to 90% and at the time -- I didn't know you could change it. The corners aren't blocked, the lower right corner is a little blurry for me. 100% display scale however is no good at all. If I wanted it to be "perfect" for the image, I would probably need to drop it to 80% and get it further to the center. Lame.
I have a much bigger issue with them pushing down on my nose, which I figured could be solved with a little thicker foam. I just tried pulling them away from my face a little bit as a test to see where my nose would be more comfortable, which of course puts my eyes further away from the optics, and surprise surprise, at 90%... the sides and especially the lower right corner for me gets significantly worse (this is after fine tuning each eye holding it this way also). I'm disappointed now having noticed this. Also the corners are not blurred, but definitely dark, this was easier to notice today in better light conditions. -_- It is really annoying. (sorry for posting this twice? i was editing it and youtube somehow nuked it...)
Thanks Andy for your truth and genuine love for this hobby!
The more that comes out about this the more Walkfail becomes more appealing. Awesome honest review dude.
Those goggles are definitely too flat on me as well.
My goggles V2 is a keeper for its future compatibility
You got it !! I'm having the same issues, nose crushing, blur of bottom image that disappear a bit if i keep goggles far from face, may be the foam (waiting to be available, as well as the rc) will help.True review....if no air unit compatibility, i guess i 'll sell everything and go with fatshark or another goggle brand.
Thanks Andy! Just upgraded from analogue to the old v2 goggles, now I feel justified for my choice.
I have the original V1s and original air units. No complaints. I won't be changing.
25 mw is ridiculous. Waiting for AU. Keeping V2.
As usual, in FPV, we wait for the better iteration. I always believe in buying things after they matured, like the DJI Goggles V2. Goggles 2 promises better penetration like in Nurk's review, and that is without any aftermarket patch/stubby
The blury issue, i have in every google in the old v2 i have it too, not as big but it is there...
I love how in depth and technical this is. Thanks for sharing your insights.
In conclusion do you recommend getting the avata combo with the v2 googles vs tje googles 2??
Exact same issues with May not being able to focus to goggles. Also the clipped in pad is half disconnected from mine
I have not had that rounded corner issue with my goggles 2, I can see the whole screen. I will admit that the OSD data (words) are a bit blurred but not as bad as you are showing here. I have found that for me, if I move the goggles down just a fraction on my nose, the blur goes away for the most part, but then there is an issue with it hurting my nose lol. Great video and information though. Thank you!
Fortunately with the WTFOS on the v1/v2 goggles we already got a canvas OSD! So I hope there is still features to unlock that we can expect. More service life for the goggles I already own. ;)
He's back everyone!
Nice review Andy !
Great video!
Also a very dramatic downside is that the Goggles 2 are fogging up like crazy.
Besides what you highlighted here, the fogging issues makes them 100% un flyable in summer when it gets hot.
I hope DJI will come to their senses scrapping the Goggles 2 soon rather than later and giving us a Goggles 3.
OMG ITS so true????? WTF!!! 800€ paid for glasses that fog up??? I hope you are a very sweaty person. And it doesn't happen to everyone! everything and so I also sweat a lot!
Wonder how it will be if the new air unit can do 4:3 aspect, if it makes this edge problem any better. Definitely seems like the OSD elements need to be movable, more into center screen.
Thank you Andy! It's great to have a honest review on this. I'm really glad I haven't invested anything in DJI beside cinematic drones. Really saving my money for Hdzero coming. I think it's gonna be really good! Although seeing this new foxeer reaper vtx just may keep me analog! Looks awesome
Thank you. Genuinely. Saved me a small fortune.
Thanks! Finally a realistic and honest review 👍
Drone-Hacks has had a Avata fcc unlock for a few days now, though it means you cannot use the dji fly app, as it resets the region.
Then you have to run the companion app again to unlock it.
its not free and you cant use it with the app. That will be fixed ;)
The DJI Avata works for me and I plan on buying one as its basically plug and play. Unfortunately the diy ones have the soldering/tuning barrier which hasnt yet been elevated to plug and play nor close to this. A very interesting review and I will be using my DJI Goggles V2 with this…. Thanks Laurie NZ.
Spoken like someone that has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
First of all, "bind and fly's" have been out for years now. I have a Roma F5 that I've never soldered on and required almost zero programming or tuning.
Second, they have plug and play quads now.
@@dangerous8333 they cant be available here in NZ? It’s ARF or kit parts, that I was thinking of…that require soldering experience…fyi…
@@dangerous8333 good point and I am expecting the DJI Avata to get me into the FPV flying and build up my flying skills etc….
@@dangerous8333 and also, this is due to the ARF GepRC one I bought about two years ago turning out to be a DUD !!! The silly thing doesnt fly, I suspect its a DUD flight controller board! FYI……
For me dji goggles 2 work just fine and im sticking with them. the question is how do i get a live video stream out of them? there are boradcasting option, which has zero documentation. will yo be the person to figure that out?
Thanks Andy, so many great points in this review.
One issue you didn't encounter, but have heard in another reviewer mentions is the DJI Goggles 2 displays are more prone to fogging. (Mads Tech) It seems related to displays being closer to face, smaller volume, and a quieter fan.
The Avata drone does have a couple features that most cinedrones lack. That is position hold and altitude hold capability. Given Betaflight is more targeted to racer and freestyle drone flyers, such feature have not been a priority. Such features are useful to indoor video, and would help new drone pilot get up to speed faster with fewer crashes. INAV software offers position and altitude hold, but they more meant for outdoor use, and would require upgrading/retuning; so not something a newer, or less experience pilot would be attempting.
This wasn't meant to be a review of the avata drone. It was meant to see if its an improvement over the current vistas and air units. But to answer your questions I didn't get any fogging on a very hot and humid day. I think that's down to my face shape and getting so much light leak enough air was getting in not to fog them up, This will be different for everyone. Its not a good drone at all indoors despite what you may have been fed. The camera is super outside but very bad in low light with lots of ISO noise. You can see a bit of it in the error i was getting before i connected it to the fly app. Indoors in say a home or house the sensors don't know what to do when there is not enough light and the model starts to do things out of your control. If it gets intermittent GPS indoors It is extremely sketchy. It will often go into RTH indoors when it loses signal which will send it flying into the ceiling. You can set signal loss to hover or land but again with sketchy indoor gps combined with sketchy information being fed from the below sensors it will end up in a crash a lot and also cause some property damage. It caused a big gash in the wall in my house for example when this happened. Hope this clears some things up that you may not have seen elsewhere
@@AndyRCchannel Thanks. I realize this was not an Avata review. Comment was more to why it might appeal to non-hobbyists.
I have assumed that DJI drones would use their ultrasonic and optical sensors when indoors. Perhaps misguided (and expect many consumers/beginners could be). The points you make are very valid concerns. Sorry to hear you experienced a wall gash. Not owning any DJI products beyond goggles and vistas, I have little detail knowledge of what a DJI drone is capable, or not.
Thanks Andy, I was waiting for your review before even considering buying the Avata. My DJI FPV drone flys excellent and I get clear edge to edge video in my V2 goggles. :)
Hi Andy, hope you're well great vid
i just got my goggles 2 i got to say i do love them a lot. but you are spot on in this review. for me what im looking at when im flying is perfect. i do understand that this may bother some people but for me they are 90% perfect lol if they become backwords compatible with the old system id say they be 100% for me. buying new goggles sucks because you can not just go into a store try them on and see if they fit you. i will say the new goggles are half as big as i thought they would be lol
Kudos Andy. Your honest opinion is highly valued. Keep on keeping on Brother.
Andy, the blurring at the edges is the side effect of making the goggles flatter. This decreased the lens-to-screen distance, which required proportionally stronger lenses to view the screens. The stronger the lenses the more optical aberrations they have, this is unavoidable with traditional lenses. Fresnel lenses are more adaptable, but they have their own set of problems. Other designs use light polarizer films and reflection films on lens surfaces to effectively double the lens-to-screen distance, but these systems are very expensive and waste 90% of light, so they require much brighter screens. DJI Goggles 1 had by far the best optical quality of all goggles precisely because of their huge form factor, and I wish DJI had just stuck with it.
what rates are you using on the Avata and DJI FPV Racer?
Sounds like you paid for your Avata, these other reviewers who obviously didn’t, I just ignore.
Shockingly, for the first time in my life, I'm the one percent of people who sit in the sweet spot with no vignetting. The lack of a fan did get the side eye though
Hi Andy, the face pad is also pressing hard on my nose and forehead. Flying is impossible with these glasses. I have returned them.
Thanks for an honest opinion, you don't get that with a lot of in depth reviews.
They work funnily for me quite well, but I have a very large ipd - so maybe that helps… and my eyes seem to be quite near to the lenses… thank you for your great work Andy!
me too, my ipd is 74 and they work great for my fat head lol
Thanks Andy....glad to hear a honest review
Thanks Andy for the Heads-up!
Where you gone all OK?
Awesome Review! Thanks for sharing your experience & knowledge. It's important to know all about the new Goggles v2.
I have the Dji FPV Goggles v2, with v01.00.06.06, update.
Thank you Andy for the excellent info!
So I have the mini 2. Also loads of FPV quads. If I want this do I need to buy it with a controller?. I'm not sure about that motion stick thing it comes with
for now only the avata works with these goggles. There have been leaked screenshots it supporting the mavic drones. No idea what controllers will be compatible other than the controller V2 and the motion controller (only with the avata for now) I wouldn't recommend the motion controller for anyone personally. Even worse for me as I'm left handed and its a right hand only controller
thank you for your review you always give good ones love to here your side first. please keep up the great work.
Great video as always grateful for your efforts
Strangely the mini 3 pro is faster in sport mode than the Avata in sports mode, yes manual mode you can go faster but it makes you think?
The range is quite rubbish on the Avata if in CE mode just put a tree between you and the Avata and you’ll see what I mean?…Also why didn’t they fit a fan to prevent fogging? It does have a fan but it’s only to cool the electronics, they could have ducted the fan to de fog and cool the electronics at the same time but they chose not to..🤔🤔😳😳
I Didn't have a problem with fogging for me personally just everything else. But everyone's faces are different. Id say if it has no antifog its probably because it sucks enough juice out of the bespoke batteries as it is. As for speed a mavic has no manual mode (acro) so talking about speeds on the hobby side is irrelevant. I think it clocked about 60mph in manual mode.
why you would like to have stabilized video to your goggles while flying? it would be much harder to feel drone
so that you know the shot you are getting in real time? all their other drones do it. personally i wouldnt want it.. but at least have the option?
Basically v1 and v2 rocks ,ant this google 2 big step down from before googles in terms of comfort ,plus fog issues ,damn hope O3 gona hawe same quality image and custom accessories sorts fog issues.....
Can I get head tracking with my V2 goggles with the Avata drone?
Some do have the imu in there but I'd be surprised if they ever enable it. Personally unless it can be converted to a pwm signal and sent to a flight controller or radio controller it's a useless feature
IPD adjustment also moves the screen doesn’t it?
changes the eye prescription with a twist
Great review, you’re good at what you do!! Keeping it true! 👊
Ha ha...the review I needed to freaking see.
It's clear. For me. 629 usd is all I need to invest. Thank you
The drone-tweaks FCC hack already works, I've tried it. I had 150-200m range LOS, now easily 500-600m.
my DB meter says otherwise I think you are experiencing a placebo effect there 25mw LOS can easily do 600m try flying behind some brick objects
@@AndyRCchannel I've had frame stutters and around 10mbit LOS 150-200m away, high above field/water, different spots. And now 600m 50mbit, without any problems, 300m away behind trees without any stutter. About the same I'm getting with my custom 5 inch quad on 1200mw vista.
Only way to really test it, is to reset it again. I'll try if that's possible.
@@andytroy Dont worry we will get it unlocked :) for free
@@AndyRCchannel I hope so :) The reason I went for that hack is because I want to use it for livestreaming. Connecting it to the normal Fly app will reset the hack with most mods :(
I think RemoteID plays alot into the release of the AirUnits 03's. I'm willing to bet they will be RemoteID compliant and why I'll stay clear of them. Already hacked my V1 set of goggles for full osd features which works well. I'll keep my og V2 goggles stock for Hope's that the 03's AU is compatible and DOESN'T have GPS embedded within it for RemoteID compliance.
I think people (including me) are feeling a bad case of FOMO but this video helps a LOT. if you have a system that works and you’re happy with it no need to spend extra money. There’ll always be something seemingly better than what you have.
Nailed it.
Thanks man
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👍🏻 TRUTH TELLING done right by AndyRC !!
Thank you Sir!
I'll stick with my old v. 2 goggles for now.
I do wish someone would make a nice set of goggles that would work with HDMI input. I'd love to watch the output of the RC-Pro/Mavic-3 in goggles .
The little H used for showing the home location is pretty nifty.
Copied from the other pioneers like iNAV and Arducopter....😳🤔🤔😏😏😏🇬🇧🇬🇧
Got to be annoying to me so I turned it off but I suppose it could be useful in an unfamiliar place.
Great video Andy
interesting… i must be lucky, i don’t have any of those issues with mine. i have a huge melon. My IPD for glasses is actually 74, but somehow they work fine for me lol. i love the new goggles personally.
Ask some friends to try em
Looks good to me....
have you tried em?
@@AndyRCchannel Bro, I'm on FS HD2s. They will be better even if I tried them out on RUclips
Nice review.
Thank you
Apparently the dronehacks app is supposed to work for getting fcc in EU. Not tried myself though. Also wondering if the goggles are getting fogged up for you, as others seems to have had this problem?
no fog for me on a sunny humid day
@@AndyRCchannel Thanks, good to know!
Hi, great review 👍
Excellent video thanks
Wooot new Andy RC content. Looks pretty good man, unfortunate of the downsides though.
Is there an image scaler also in the v1??
Yes there is
@@AndyRCchannelI never realized :))
FPV goggles still can beat the fully immersive experience from my 42" 1080p TV/
Never used gyro stabilization and never want to.
Angle mode and gyro stabilization are for beginners and cheaters.
Avatar is the same on edge of screen i just get used to it but stupid for what it cost
An expensive waist of money, fogging is also a major problem, pull your finger out DJI get the job done right, you want people to buy your products then test them correctly before release
You're taking off from a crop circle
Great honest review as always Andy I was feeling really jealous of people getting into these goggles ( I'm on hdzero) but honesty now I think I've gone the right way from analogue to hdzero.👍🏻
All great points. I remember what happened with HD2. There was the complaints of blurry edges. Then HD3 came out with smaller screens and crisp edges and many cried. We want bigger screens. And used HD2 became sought after after. I have just slightly blurry corners on these DJI 2 goggles. The bottom edge is blurry too so not great like HDO2
But loving the head tracking feature and compact size. Not to mention contrast.
goggles 2 have better penetration, which is a game changer
It's got better penetration through my nose. Think you may find that's just because it's using two internal patches that most people have already fitted to the V1. Couples with improvements made to the drone as when I fly with the v2 I see no penetration improvement other than my nose doesn't need surgery
I fly in VR with 120 FoV. Saying they have to keep it under 51 FoV is BS.
yes with a toaster strapped to your head
@@AndyRCchannel HAhahah Truuuuu
Why DJI went with a Fatshark style goggle is way beyond me. I literally can't stand Way FS goggles fit and the FOV sucks.
Hate goggles, never want to fly with goggles. The DJI V1 goggles are absolutely awful. Give me a 1080p monitor any day of the week. They cost $15 used down at your local thrift store or use your laptop. #endTheGogglePewk
my face must fit :) have the new goggles and have a full view without any blur or vignette at all. Sorry
Stop rolling the quad copter in flight!!
Its dizzying!!!
???
Buy a mavic
@@AndyRCchannel lol
The googles do not look like an upgrade 👎
FOMO cancelled 😊
wow, what a classic case of having all the right specs but poor execution
Way over priced, once you add it all up including the Extra batteries at $120 each and having to purchase the stick controller makes this drone a no buy for me. Poorly packaged combo packages. I'm not buying hundreds of dollars for what should come with the package. How about a Fly more package ( 3) batteries with the stick controller all in one package. China 🇨🇳 still sucking up our money. Build your own or just get into flying RC planes . Lol
Hmm not sure about this maybe your head is a weird shape no one else saying anything like this
who is no one?
@@AndyRCchannel yeah maybe your right but hoping they are okay on my head as I purchased and am picking up on Monday. Anyway thanks for honest review.
@@youtubejack let me know how u get on
@@AndyRCchannel yeah I see what you mean but I don’t think it’s that bad. I have astigmatism so I had issues with old ones too.
25mw @ 2.4g or 5.8g...?...Utterly useless...DJI have been forced down the European fun free route by EU rule making stuffed shirts...This product certainly in Europe is going to be a flop like the FPV DJI drone was...I need a 75mm IPD too ..🙄🙄😳😳😳🤔🇬🇧🇬🇧
only lets me select 5.8ghz
Hopefully it gets hacked like the last one
@@AndyRCchannel Explains it's hopeless range, at 25mw....really?...🤔😳😏🇬🇧
@@omh186 working on it as we speak ;)
No Thanks DJI, simply NO THANKS
First!
Do you feel special?
@@paulhope3401 yes thanks 😁😁
@@paulhope3401 Voidtyphoon Is a super hero in the hobby. If only you knew :)
@@AndyRCchannel that statement alone is worth my subscription to his channel.
@@AndyRCchannel I know he is, I'm just jealous he beat me.
FCC is a available now. Just copy a simple file to the Googles. That's all. From b3yond.
i dont understand why they scale the whole screen. Why not scale the UI only? I don't mind washed out corners as long as my UI is clearly readable. The scaling should only affect the UI...
You're a genius
Wow. Guess I'm lucky.
The goggles 2 fit me great, no light leak and I'm not getting any of that black around the edges.
My IPD is just about centered. And I no longer need to wear glasses now that I can just focus each side.
Thus far I'm thrilled with them.
I've been flying low around trees with no breakup either.
Well, sounds like I got lucky because I'm loving this setup.
So I guess you will send it back ;)
Thanks for the honest review. Good contrast to all the influencers DJI selects to get good sales. Had no idea that the goggles are that bad of a fit. Let's just hope the DJI FPV v2 goggles (the older) are well supported by o3 airunits then.
I found the image quality between vista and DJI FPV Racer quite noticeable - and for me it was the only real benefit of the potatoe ;)
Greets, Mario
I agree
This is such a breath of fresh air. Everybody is hyping the avata and goggles 2 so much its really tough to understand whats hype and whos actually being honest. Thank you!!!
liked and subscribed because of this.
Welp. Gonna stick with my v1s and v2 until a goggles 2 v2 comes out.