Correction: in the video, I say that the antennas are not removable. The antennas pull out and there is an MCX connector inside. So there is some potential for aftermarket antennas.
@JoshuaBardwell, can we get some Cine-D footage? Honestly, I love your videos but sometimes it's hard to get sample footage without grading from DJI. Could be a niche for your channel. Edit: Gyroflow supported?
@@dangerous8333 It really is just an incremental update, they bolted on a new chip to an existing platform to improve it rather than have their OEM creating a new chip design; so other than the goggles going OLED which is far superior to what we had; whats the big deal about 1080p video feed when most of us carry hero 10/11's when we want something usable? There is also the FPVWTF hacks that put so much life into the old system that the O3 stuff should have DJI hanging their heads in absolute shame for abandoning the old system so soon.
All test in this video were performed WITHOUT doing the "ham license" hack, which allows more channels to be used. This reflects the standard, out of the box experience, but obviously a lot of people will do the "ham license" hack and a future video will show those results.
@@armani007E55 I can't speak to that. They didn't fog up for me. But it's winter here so that's not usually an issue. They don't have a dedicated defogging fan.
I flew today with the v1 goggles. Its winter in Ontario and mine fogged up while unplugged. The fan is a must especially for people who sweat a lot or throw off immense heat through their face 😅
Been a few years since i flew, wow the tech has come a long way. Looks so nice, no static etc. Nice to see your channel still going Josh, you are the go to guy for info.
I see so many people concerned with the quality of footage after the flight, but for me having the amazing live view quality of the Goggles 2 is the best part of flying. For FPV I really find the best experience is while you're actually flying and in control, not watching the footage afterwards. The detail and clarity in the Goggles 2 is insane!
Your videos have come such a long way uncle Josh. Not that your first few videos were bad, but these are great. I love watching your videos while working or playing something after work. To top it off, you've been so extremely helpful to me and my attempts at flying, you truly are one of the best.
The fact that you no longer need an action camera is definitely the main selling point of this unit. If quality is more or less the same then I am definitely in.
JBs video on this is the best I've seen so far, as usual, nice work Joshua! Other reviewers are obsessing about the 4k dvr footage, I care more about compatibility and how it looks on the v2 goggles! Thanks for including that info
Thanks a ton Joshua. You're still the best with giving the right amount of information on a product. That is a big step in HD fpv. And if I have extra money in the future I probably will switch to O3. But for now my V1 goggles are plenty for me. I don't really need extra resolution, normally I zoom out the picture in them because of very big FOV, so that leaves only slightly better signal quality and it is really not enough for me to start changing my gear to new system ).
I did that when I first started flying DJI digital. But, after a while of getting used to something like a 70% or 80% of the full FOV, I have stepped the screen size (FOV) up to 90% now, and I'm soon gonna try 100% again. Try slowly moving that FOV up. It's sure immersive! :)
Josh, don't know if anyone else has mentioned this in comments but just take the antenna and pull straight up and out it comes. Easy peasy. Great content.
Not really a fan of action cameras for fpv. The O3 Air Unit is the one I need!!! Going to have pros and cons but definitely an upgrade. Amazing how far we’ve come along with technology.
I've never flown with digital but a couple months ago I did get a set of V2 goggles when they got marked down. Hopefully by spring I'll have a digital setup ready to fly and that will be my upgrade for now. This latest system will be a couple years down the road but I'm happy to see improvements and progress from all HD manufacturers.
Bro, Black Friday is in a few days. I suggest you go out and find yourself a Caddx Vista or Runcam Link (only the cameras are different) and get flying DJI digital RIGHT AWAY! Try to get a 120fps camera...i.e....not a Polar and not a Nebula Nano V2, and not a Link with the Phoenix camera. Those are all 60fps cameras. They have about 10ms of extra latency. Still very flyable, but get a 120fps to see what the potential is. Go for a Caddx Nebula Pro, Nebula Pro Nano, or a Runcan Link with the Falcon camera. The Wasp camera from Runcam also has 120fps, but no adjustable parameters for saturation, contrast, etc. in the V2 goggles, and it's stuck in 4:3 aspect ratio - So you only get the square 4:3 image (Old CRT TV image size), not an HD rectangular image of 16:9. The most these RETAIL for is $165. That's ALL YOU NEED! Not that much to get flying digital!!! 😁 - AND, you'll not want to fly analog much ever again once you fly digital - IT'S SO DAMN GOOD! 😎🤘
@@KOrnhOliO1 Agreed, 120fps is a must, especially if you are just starting with the system DO NOT use a 60fps camera, only use those for night time flying when you fully understand the latency & have been flying a while! EDIT: also it is easier for a noob starting out with 4:3 aspect, the stock DJI cameras all support it by default.
This is the most comprehensive video I've seen on the subject. I have a DJI Avata. I'm a newbie to modifying drones. Would the DJI 03 Air Unit work as a replacement camera on the Avata? If so, would the controller/goggles 2 control the tilt up and down of the camera during flight? Thanks!
I'd really appreciate that mentioned video about considering DJI vs Walksnail vs HD Zero. As an flyer that's been grounded for 2 years and used the analogue "Mr Steele" setup, modernising to HD era is something I'm looking into. As always, amazing detail and information Josh 👌
Very nice review and of course this will be a absolute game changer. I was pleased to see there is a mounting option with screws even though it's not 20x20 or 30×30 the community will definitely adapt the frame mounting for it. Thank you for all you do in our hobby! 🤟👍👏
Thank you as always for all the great info. Joshua. DJI really needs to improve fit / comfort of “Goggles2”. My biggest complaint at the moment. Thanks again for n!!! 👍👍👍
One thing no one mentions about the goggles2 is that their lenses have a much smaller sweet spot than the V2, and must be very tightly adjusted to avoid blurriness. This made me decide to go with the V2 immediately after trying them both out
to make googles so small there are too many sacrifices that have to be made, I learned that with the HD2. The V2 is in the a perfect place between large box goggles and the small ones like the goggles 2
i agree i have the v2 goggles which are really box goggles and a pair of old dominators and i am still content with both them. there's not enough improvement to justify 600- 1k for a new set of goggles and a air unit, just being realistic. if i didn't have the v2 already it might be different. besides when flying im not stopping to smell the roses at those speeds so an improved image would be for recording at most and just use an older gopro session 5 for that
I'm not able to publicly post flight footage due to conflict of interest with my job and I don't work professionally as a videographer/cinematographer so the on board video on this air unit is perfect for me. I'm gonna get the new goggles and basically factor in the cost of a new gopro which puts the goggles at $250. I don't have a digital system and my current goggles are HDO v1 so it's time lol. Thanks for the info JB!
When I bought my Avata, I was hesitant buying it with the goggles 2, because so many people complain about the fit, especially pressing on the nose... and I have a beak... but I went for the goggles 2 and so happy that I did. They are a perfect fit and a lot more comfortable than the v2s, with my glasses on. The decision now is which of my quads get the new Air O3!
I'd take that OLED statement with a massive grain of salt. I tried both of these goggles with Avata and could barely tell any difference. Biggest difference with the goggles 2 and v2 was that the FOV of the goggles 2 is MUCH smaller and they don't get fully focused despite the adjustments.
I purchased the DJI integra to try out the Dji 03 air unit but prefer using it with the FPV goggles v2. The picture quality looks so good on the older goggles, and it is more comfortable for me to wear. The size and weight are marginal for me so I’ll go the route of buying the Dji 03 to replace all my old caddx units. Once the goggles 3 adds support for the Dji o3, I will switch over to that moving forward.
Im happy to see you off the DJI blacklist😂 You are the best reviewer of FPV products of all time! I must have 20k in boxes of stuff in places I don’t even know. Keep it up my friend
The DJI Goggles 2 are selling for $649 as of November 22, 2022. Thanks for the review JB. I just pre-ordered two O3 transmitters/cameras. It will be great to add Avata quality video to my DYI quads and planes.
Music to my ears so glad i can use the v2 goggles on the o3 air untis i was so mad my goggles arent even 7 months old and just changed over to the dji air units i have and will be forever a analog lover and flown for years still keeping my tbs antenna module on my FS but do grealy appreciate dji and have gotten spoiled on it. THANKS JB
Sorry if I missed something when you were talking about the antennas on the goggles 2. But the little fold down antennas just pull out and there is a connector inside there.
I like flying the O3 air unit. The quality is what I expected. I do have to say I LOVE the new goggles. Huge improvement there imo. Obviously having my choice of antenna would be better, but for what it is I’m sold
You already have it in an fpv quad? Or do you have the Avata? The new goggles aren't much of an improvement over the old ones and in many cases people like the old ones better. Most reviews on RUclips reflect the same sentiment.
@@dangerous8333 It was in a 5” fpv quad, I was just helping build with the new system and got the opportunity to fly them. I think it’s the form factor of the goggles I enjoy the most. They fit my face without any light leak and I didn’t have to modify them. They’re light on the noggin. The IPD adjustment of the goggle got rid of the blurriness I experienced in the v1 &v2 goggles when I had the lens evenly spaced. Usually I had to fly with the lenses all the way to one side to get a clear picture. Although more testing is needed in general. Those were my quick initial thoughts of the new system.
@@ChomperFPV Oh okay. I'm getting the new air unit but already have the V2 goggles. I need to buy the freaking remote because I doubt they'll release a module for my Tango 2, so I'm hoping I don't want/need the new goggles. There's no way for me to try them without buying them though.
Hi..dear..again as usual you are the number 1..thanks for you amazing explanation..I have just 1 issues. I wasn't able to bind the new air unit O3 with the googles V2..I tried all..updated software..please any concern?. Thanks
I will wait for the portability with the vista since I will probably only buy an O3 system and keep my 6 quads with the vista, The question is "Will the vista image improve in the new glasses when it is compatible because they are OLED?"
Thanks JB, Great review. With some of the limitations of the G2 goggles, waitting is a great idea. I fly V1 with Analog Fusion mounted on the sde and love the ability to use one set of goggles. Will the G2's be able to receive the Fusion rx like the V1 & V2?? Any way, well done video as usual.
What channels does it use (frequency). Do the align with current channels? How much bandwidth is each channel using? Compatibility issues when flying with other people and systems, physical separation required? Isn't the power and baud rate automatic, meaning you could potentially stomp others? Can the power output be reduced? The list can go on.
Got back into FPV this year after taking a few years hiatus. I was torn between getting new analog goggles or digital goggles. I think I was happy to stick to analog. I think I mostly like the idea of stretching an analog signal as far as possible. I plan on including digital in my arsenal in the future, and with stuff like the walksnail VRX coming out, it’s gonna be easier than ever.
Same , last I flew fpv was 2018 still have my dominator v3. Got back into it last month along with cp helicopters. For as far as I fly , my dominators do just fine. Would like to try digital but that latency would be annoying for me.
@@MrDVCHITTer latency isn't as bad as you think, i had Dom v3s for 4yrs and loved them, then switched to DJI and i soon realised how bad Dom V3s really are compared to Digital, it's a whole new flying experience. As for Analogue, I'm not sure why anyone would choose it over digital nowadays.
Today when I was using my DJI FPV goggles 2 I reached up to take them off and pulled out one of the antenna. I was able to slide it back into a slot and it popped back into place.
Hey Joshua, I think a good video for you to make would be to show everyone all the gear you’ve accumulated over the years, and how you organize it all. I’d definitely love to see it, and I know lots of people would too!
V2 goggles battery pack also 9nly allows voltage passthrough for charging the pack itself with any USB c cable, and also only dishes out power for specific applications. For example using the dji usbc to barrel for goggles only. Any goggle. I can't storage charge them. Dji usbc has a chip I believe that tells the pack to work or not based on a few factors
Getting back to hobby after few years O3 looks very interesting quality is very acceptable * no more separate cam -less weight and cost* but its costly taking into consideration i need all HD gear setup right now things adds up really fast ,ive been flying analog last time and sold it all since i could not afford to buy new drone and cam (ive lost my Flywoo LR :/ ) hopefully that prices will go down after 11th april considering also used stuff to get into air in a moth or so. Tnx for all detailed vids , helps a lot.
I want this for my 4 inch long range. Saves weight by replacing the action cam. Deff getting one for that build. Sticking eith Vista on my bando basher
I knew a long time ago I wanted to get into DJI, currently I just have my Radiomaster (eachiene) tx16x flashed with with edge tx radio but haven't gotten to a build yet, been spending all my time in simulators, but I've always learned the most from your videos, now I just need to hold out a little longer and go with the goggles 2 and the o3 controller also need to get my commercial license as my step mom is now a realtor and I have proposed a business deal with her once I get my license to get some shots of houses. So once I'm ready to make my first couple builds I'll be using the affiliate links.. I wanna make a cinewoop for that stuff and I want to make me a good freestyle drone, thanks for the informative videos.
The only thing I care about and the only reason I may someday get the new system is the extra range and penetration. The 720 video is good enough for me but you can never have too much range or penetration to ensure that you don't lose your quad.
I bought the Avata with the goggles 2 as my first fpv and ever since I’ve watched so many of your videos. Looks like I’ll be buying a quad with the 03 air unit and learn to do some mountain surfing and chasing my friends on their mountain bikes here in Switzerland 🇨🇭 Thanks for all work you put into your videos!
I have the Avata, and it looks like the same setup. Glad there is a screw mount option, but I think most just double-side tape it to the frame anyway (I like screws TBH...) The fit of the camera up front is definitely going to be an issue, especially if frame manufacturers have to redesign for just 3-4mm of extra width. The quality of the Avata camera is pretty decent, so maybe some will use it instead of a GoPro, to save weight. Great review as always!!!!
Josh, Thank you for making this very informative review. You and @Kabab, have provided exactly what I needed to make a selection for my first FPV drone.
So just so I'm clear the original dji remote does not currently work with the goggles 2 or the o3 air unit? I really hope they make the stuff compatible I'm good with my original air units in my original remote I would just like those smaller goggles
Great video. Maybe I missed it but if I use the 03 air unit with my V2 goggles, will I have the beta flight OSD? Or is that a feature that is part of the new goggles2?
Thank you so much for the video! could you show the drone you threw it in? I would really love a little pastelist of the drone you are rocking :) Thanks!!!
Excellent review, as always. One question - is there SD card recording on both the goggles 2 and the O3 air unit, and if so what is the difference? Is it like the previous generation where the goggles record lower quality video?
Yes, SD card on both, but also internal storage on the air unit if you prefer not to use an SD card. It's exactly like all other FPV systems -- the goggles can only record what they receiver, which is degraded compared to the on-board recording.
Please do another video comparing the new Goggles 2 to the V2 goggles AFTER you have COMPLETELY TWEAKED the adjustable parameters in the V2 goggles, available with 120fps cameras. This CAN make a HUGE difference in how the image in the V2 goggles looks when compared to the OLED Goggles 2. I anticipated most V2 goggle owners don't tweak their settings for things like contrast, saturation, brightness, sharpness, etc. BUT, when tweaked, they will get the V2 goggles much closer to in goggle image quality when compared to the Goggles 2. I'd love to see how close you can get them. Thanks very much for considering doing this comparison video for us. 😎🤘
The bottom line for me is there's no way to make up the absurd brightness and contrast ratio of OLED. You simply can't do it. You can make an LCD screen look as good as it can, and an OLED will still always blow it away.
Have had the dji fpv a year now. Was not able to really use it much in the past 9 months. Just recently acquired the Avata w goggles 2 a couple of weeks ago and have now had time to put in to them. I'm finding my self chicken shit to go full manual as I really am a noob. I have been on the sim religiously lately to practice and really love the entire concept of fpv. As I prefer the video quality feedback from either dji drones and have no clue how you avid fpvers use blocky noisy analog without getting skull ache, I'm definitely going 03 in a RTF, currently on GetFPV in a 5inch s6. I'm not afraid to crash a custom as these are much easier for me to repair and I already have everything else dji, so this I think makes more sense. As I'm not familiar with part compatibility between all the manufacturers I have chosen to go RTF, but my next custom I will build myself after getting more familiar with components etc.
I have the v2 goggles and want the o3 air unit but pretty bummed I also would have to buy another transmitter to use it. And on top of that, have to keep my old dji transmitter to use my vista's.
Love that shirt! Also even though I don’t change much as for gear still like the info. The old air unit replaced my gopro. Even though I have new 11mini. But wouldn’t use it on quad to heavy and prefer older air units. #1 smaller controller works # 2 new form factor those are my favorites things that could cause me to upgrade.
Hello. If someone goes digital and for DJI the best option is to go with the goggles 2. Someone who is on digital with the V2 there is no need to switch to the goggles 2 since the onboard recording of the AU O3 is amazing. Yes OLED is amazing but not necessary for freestyle,bando etc for me! And not to mention the 99 dollars for a replacement O3 camera!!
Joshua....can you tell me.....The old DJI radio controller that you could link to any air unit or caddx (the plain looking black DJI controller with two antennas....rotor riot carries it).....does that controller link with the new air unit as well, or do you have to buy the new radio that came with FPV drone and Avata?
nice job! question can i plug the goggles 2 into the usb module of my phantom 3 pro radio like i already do with the fatsharks? and whats the DJI controller got to do with it? to my understanding the o3 unit is a camera video tx im thinking of just slapping this unit on my flying wing which i already control with my jr transmitter. I never understood the bundle including the dji remote how would i controle my plane or quad with a dji controler? thanks
Hey Josh, the Antennas are removable. Yesterday i removed it inadvertently on Friends Goggles. In there ist a SMA Connector. Only need to pull off the Antennas, the are only plugged in.
32:11 Maybe around 600 US$? The only store I found here in France (official DJI retailer) lists them at 850€. So 1100€ for google + a full o3 system... outch
From the store, the new antennas suggest that they are dual-polarised and dual-band. It's possible that even though it didn't allow you to select 2.4GHz, it was also using it during the tests which could explain why your aftermarket antennas didn't perform as well. It's also worth noting that the store claims that the Avata's ND filters fit onto this camera. The Googles 2 include head tracking, is this exposed as output channels by the O3 air unit? (With or without the controller) In the UK, the Googles 2 are listed at £729 while the FPV Goggles V2 are listed at £489.
Cool! -Me, student without much money and time to fly, with Eachine EV800Ds, cheapo everything, using Frsky and Flysky with jumper T12 in middle Europe with legal 25mW VTX limit, dropping video & RC link behind a tree 10 meters away
Correction: in the video, I say that the antennas are not removable. The antennas pull out and there is an MCX connector inside. So there is some potential for aftermarket antennas.
MMCX? :)
What frame did you mount the new air unit in?
@JoshuaBardwell, can we get some Cine-D footage? Honestly, I love your videos but sometimes it's hard to get sample footage without grading from DJI. Could be a niche for your channel.
Edit: Gyroflow supported?
@@JustTechGuyThings it's supported, they opened IMU data
@@JustTechGuyThings 26:40
Hey look who got off of DJI's naughty list!
My first reaction 😂
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That's funny cause I saw/see it completely the opposite.
DJI finally has something worth Joshua's review.
@@dangerous8333 It really is just an incremental update, they bolted on a new chip to an existing platform to improve it rather than have their OEM creating a new chip design; so other than the goggles going OLED which is far superior to what we had; whats the big deal about 1080p video feed when most of us carry hero 10/11's when we want something usable? There is also the FPVWTF hacks that put so much life into the old system that the O3 stuff should have DJI hanging their heads in absolute shame for abandoning the old system so soon.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
All test in this video were performed WITHOUT doing the "ham license" hack, which allows more channels to be used. This reflects the standard, out of the box experience, but obviously a lot of people will do the "ham license" hack and a future video will show those results.
You didn't mention the (lack of) anti fog in the goggles 2
Agree I hear that with no fan they can fog up. Anything on this JB?
@@armani007E55 I can't speak to that. They didn't fog up for me. But it's winter here so that's not usually an issue. They don't have a dedicated defogging fan.
@@JoshuaBardwell tks JB! I guess this one we can re visit.
I flew today with the v1 goggles. Its winter in Ontario and mine fogged up while unplugged. The fan is a must especially for people who sweat a lot or throw off immense heat through their face 😅
Been a few years since i flew, wow the tech has come a long way. Looks so nice, no static etc. Nice to see your channel still going Josh, you are the go to guy for info.
I see so many people concerned with the quality of footage after the flight, but for me having the amazing live view quality of the Goggles 2 is the best part of flying. For FPV I really find the best experience is while you're actually flying and in control, not watching the footage afterwards. The detail and clarity in the Goggles 2 is insane!
Your videos have come such a long way uncle Josh. Not that your first few videos were bad, but these are great. I love watching your videos while working or playing something after work. To top it off, you've been so extremely helpful to me and my attempts at flying, you truly are one of the best.
The fact that you no longer need an action camera is definitely the main selling point of this unit. If quality is more or less the same then I am definitely in.
same, lighter quad with no gopro and lower latency with the old goggles sounds good to me lol
if only it had a mic aswell
@@atgfpv Someone needs to make a mini mic module.
@@atgfpv Same.
its hard to beat gopro tho
JBs video on this is the best I've seen so far, as usual, nice work Joshua! Other reviewers are obsessing about the 4k dvr footage, I care more about compatibility and how it looks on the v2 goggles! Thanks for including that info
Thanks a ton Joshua. You're still the best with giving the right amount of information on a product. That is a big step in HD fpv. And if I have extra money in the future I probably will switch to O3. But for now my V1 goggles are plenty for me. I don't really need extra resolution, normally I zoom out the picture in them because of very big FOV, so that leaves only slightly better signal quality and it is really not enough for me to start changing my gear to new system ).
I did that when I first started flying DJI digital. But, after a while of getting used to something like a 70% or 80% of the full FOV, I have stepped the screen size (FOV) up to 90% now, and I'm soon gonna try 100% again. Try slowly moving that FOV up. It's sure immersive! :)
@@KOrnhOliO1 I guess it depends on flying style. I am more in learning aggressive freestyle and thinking more about zooming out even more ).
Josh, don't know if anyone else has mentioned this in comments but just take the antenna and pull straight up and out it comes. Easy peasy. Great content.
Not really a fan of action cameras for fpv. The O3 Air Unit is the one I need!!! Going to have pros and cons but definitely an upgrade. Amazing how far we’ve come along with technology.
God bless you bardwell for these amazing reviews, the consistency in quality and output is unparalleled
I've never flown with digital but a couple months ago I did get a set of V2 goggles when they got marked down. Hopefully by spring I'll have a digital setup ready to fly and that will be my upgrade for now. This latest system will be a couple years down the road but I'm happy to see improvements and progress from all HD manufacturers.
Bro, Black Friday is in a few days. I suggest you go out and find yourself a Caddx Vista or Runcam Link (only the cameras are different) and get flying DJI digital RIGHT AWAY! Try to get a 120fps camera...i.e....not a Polar and not a Nebula Nano V2, and not a Link with the Phoenix camera. Those are all 60fps cameras. They have about 10ms of extra latency. Still very flyable, but get a 120fps to see what the potential is.
Go for a Caddx Nebula Pro, Nebula Pro Nano, or a Runcan Link with the Falcon camera. The Wasp camera from Runcam also has 120fps, but no adjustable parameters for saturation, contrast, etc. in the V2 goggles, and it's stuck in 4:3 aspect ratio - So you only get the square 4:3 image (Old CRT TV image size), not an HD rectangular image of 16:9.
The most these RETAIL for is $165.
That's ALL YOU NEED! Not that much to get flying digital!!! 😁 - AND, you'll not want to fly analog much ever again once you fly digital - IT'S SO DAMN GOOD! 😎🤘
@@KOrnhOliO1 What about a Walksnail avatar hd solution ? I am sill hesitating...
@@KOrnhOliO1 I appreciate the info. Thanks!
@@KOrnhOliO1 Agreed, 120fps is a must, especially if you are just starting with the system DO NOT use a 60fps camera, only use those for night time flying when you fully understand the latency & have been flying a while! EDIT: also it is easier for a noob starting out with 4:3 aspect, the stock DJI cameras all support it by default.
This is the most comprehensive video I've seen on the subject. I have a DJI Avata. I'm a newbie to modifying drones. Would the DJI 03 Air Unit work as a replacement camera on the Avata? If so, would the controller/goggles 2 control the tilt up and down of the camera during flight? Thanks!
I'd really appreciate that mentioned video about considering DJI vs Walksnail vs HD Zero. As an flyer that's been grounded for 2 years and used the analogue "Mr Steele" setup, modernising to HD era is something I'm looking into. As always, amazing detail and information Josh 👌
Very nice review and of course this will be a absolute game changer. I was pleased to see there is a mounting option with screws even though it's not 20x20 or 30×30 the community will definitely adapt the frame mounting for it. Thank you for all you do in our hobby! 🤟👍👏
Yes, 3D printing an adapter is something so simple, it's really not worth make a big deal about the mounting size.
@@KOrnhOliO1 disagree, it's a pain without a printer
@@asdfasdfasdfasdfzzzz 😁Fact.
Thanks!
Always an argument for me is that I can wear my glasses underneath the v2 goggles and I like that very much ! Great review
Top antennas just pull off. There is a MCX connector inside. Should hopefully see aftermarket antennas soon from reputable suppliers.
Thank you as always for all the great info. Joshua. DJI really needs to improve fit / comfort of “Goggles2”. My biggest complaint at the moment. Thanks again for n!!! 👍👍👍
One thing no one mentions about the goggles2 is that their lenses have a much smaller sweet spot than the V2, and must be very tightly adjusted to avoid blurriness. This made me decide to go with the V2 immediately after trying them both out
to make googles so small there are too many sacrifices that have to be made, I learned that with the HD2. The V2 is in the a perfect place between large box goggles and the small ones like the goggles 2
Piece of cake. But hey some people struggle with binoculars too. 🤷
i agree i have the v2 goggles which are really box goggles and a pair of old dominators and i am still content with both them. there's not enough improvement to justify 600- 1k for a new set of goggles and a air unit, just being realistic. if i didn't have the v2 already it might be different. besides when flying im not stopping to smell the roses at those speeds so an improved image would be for recording at most and just use an older gopro session 5 for that
Problem for me is I tried a friend's V2's and they gave me a headache within a few minutes...
I'm not able to publicly post flight footage due to conflict of interest with my job and I don't work professionally as a videographer/cinematographer so the on board video on this air unit is perfect for me. I'm gonna get the new goggles and basically factor in the cost of a new gopro which puts the goggles at $250. I don't have a digital system and my current goggles are HDO v1 so it's time lol. Thanks for the info JB!
When I bought my Avata, I was hesitant buying it with the goggles 2, because so many people complain about the fit, especially pressing on the nose... and I have a beak... but I went for the goggles 2 and so happy that I did. They are a perfect fit and a lot more comfortable than the v2s, with my glasses on.
The decision now is which of my quads get the new Air O3!
I'd take that OLED statement with a massive grain of salt. I tried both of these goggles with Avata and could barely tell any difference. Biggest difference with the goggles 2 and v2 was that the FOV of the goggles 2 is MUCH smaller and they don't get fully focused despite the adjustments.
I purchased the DJI integra to try out the Dji 03 air unit but prefer using it with the FPV goggles v2. The picture quality looks so good on the older goggles, and it is more comfortable for me to wear. The size and weight are marginal for me so I’ll go the route of buying the Dji 03 to replace all my old caddx units. Once the goggles 3 adds support for the Dji o3, I will switch over to that moving forward.
Im happy to see you off the DJI blacklist😂 You are the best reviewer of FPV products of all time! I must have 20k in boxes of stuff in places I don’t even know. Keep it up my friend
The DJI Goggles 2 are selling for $649 as of November 22, 2022.
Thanks for the review JB.
I just pre-ordered two O3 transmitters/cameras. It will be great to add Avata quality video to my DYI quads and planes.
Bravo 👏👏 JB, you're off the DJI banned review list. 😂😂 Glad to see them sending you the new system to review. Awesome.
The way I see it, DJI finally has something worth Joshua's review.
I don't see it as DJI blessing Joshua. 😂
Music to my ears so glad i can use the v2 goggles on the o3 air untis i was so mad my goggles arent even 7 months old and just changed over to the dji air units i have and will be forever a analog lover and flown for years still keeping my tbs antenna module on my FS but do grealy appreciate dji and have gotten spoiled on it. THANKS JB
Sorry if I missed something when you were talking about the antennas on the goggles 2. But the little fold down antennas just pull out and there is a connector inside there.
I like flying the O3 air unit. The quality is what I expected. I do have to say I LOVE the new goggles. Huge improvement there imo. Obviously having my choice of antenna would be better, but for what it is I’m sold
You already have it in an fpv quad? Or do you have the Avata?
The new goggles aren't much of an improvement over the old ones and in many cases people like the old ones better. Most reviews on RUclips reflect the same sentiment.
@@dangerous8333 It was in a 5” fpv quad, I was just helping build with the new system and got the opportunity to fly them. I think it’s the form factor of the goggles I enjoy the most. They fit my face without any light leak and I didn’t have to modify them. They’re light on the noggin. The IPD adjustment of the goggle got rid of the blurriness I experienced in the v1 &v2 goggles when I had the lens evenly spaced. Usually I had to fly with the lenses all the way to one side to get a clear picture. Although more testing is needed in general. Those were my quick initial thoughts of the new system.
@@ChomperFPV Oh okay. I'm getting the new air unit but already have the V2 goggles. I need to buy the freaking remote because I doubt they'll release a module for my Tango 2, so I'm hoping I don't want/need the new goggles. There's no way for me to try them without buying them though.
@@dangerous8333 hey what's the link with the tango 2. U're using crossfire with the O3 unit it's okay
I am sooo glad I waited for 03 review. Thank you Bardwell! Walksnail is too overpriced if you compare it to DJI o3
This was very helpful. Thank you! Keep doing what you do. I think the upgrades and new features on the O3 Air Unit’s worth it.
is the Walksnail system worth considering when this exists?
Hi..dear..again as usual you are the number 1..thanks for you amazing explanation..I have just 1 issues. I wasn't able to bind the new air unit O3 with the googles V2..I tried all..updated software..please any concern?. Thanks
If not buying a 500 go pro im in. Thank for all your years of free info.
Boom! Came here for ALL the infos. Thanks so much Joshua!!! Can’t wait to get mine!
I will wait for the portability with the vista since I will probably only buy an O3 system and keep my 6 quads with the vista, The question is "Will the vista image improve in the new glasses when it is compatible because they are OLED?"
Joshua, u can just pull up the antennas on the new goggles, I did it. It seats in place when u put it back in.
JB is my hero
Fast as lightning ⚡️
Wow wow wow ! amazing product ! But I'm still not sure it will replace my gopro 11
does the "old" black bulkier dji fpv remote controller with with o3 air unit? i guess not but asking anyway.. thanks
No it doesn't.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for fast reply appreciate it
DJI should link to this video from their website. It's so confusing for a n00b and this lays it out perfectly.
Thanks JB, Great review. With some of the limitations of the G2 goggles, waitting is a great idea. I fly V1 with Analog Fusion mounted on the sde and love the ability to use one set of goggles. Will the G2's be able to receive the Fusion rx like the V1 & V2?? Any way, well done video as usual.
What channels does it use (frequency). Do the align with current channels? How much bandwidth is each channel using? Compatibility issues when flying with other people and systems, physical separation required? Isn't the power and baud rate automatic, meaning you could potentially stomp others? Can the power output be reduced? The list can go on.
I love the googles, but i hate the right angled plug it doesnt match with the goggles dc input placement.
Thanks for the detailed review. BTW, you can take the antennas out by pulling them out.
Great review! Love the attention to all the little but actually useful details
Got back into FPV this year after taking a few years hiatus. I was torn between getting new analog goggles or digital goggles. I think I was happy to stick to analog. I think I mostly like the idea of stretching an analog signal as far as possible.
I plan on including digital in my arsenal in the future, and with stuff like the walksnail VRX coming out, it’s gonna be easier than ever.
Same , last I flew fpv was 2018 still have my dominator v3. Got back into it last month along with cp helicopters. For as far as I fly , my dominators do just fine. Would like to try digital but that latency would be annoying for me.
@@MrDVCHITTer latency isn't as bad as you think, i had Dom v3s for 4yrs and loved them, then switched to DJI and i soon realised how bad Dom V3s really are compared to Digital, it's a whole new flying experience. As for Analogue, I'm not sure why anyone would choose it over digital nowadays.
Wow that was impressively informative, clear and concise. Thanks!
Hello, the polarity of the antennas of both the goggles and the 03 air unit are LHCP.
Thanks for the footage AND upload in 60fps ! 🙂
Today when I was using my DJI FPV goggles 2 I reached up to take them off and pulled out one of the antenna. I was able to slide it back into a slot and it popped back into place.
Hey Joshua, I think a good video for you to make would be to show everyone all the gear you’ve accumulated over the years, and how you organize it all. I’d definitely love to see it, and I know lots of people would too!
V2 goggles battery pack also 9nly allows voltage passthrough for charging the pack itself with any USB c cable, and also only dishes out power for specific applications. For example using the dji usbc to barrel for goggles only. Any goggle. I can't storage charge them. Dji usbc has a chip I believe that tells the pack to work or not based on a few factors
Getting back to hobby after few years O3 looks very interesting quality is very acceptable * no more separate cam -less weight and cost* but its costly taking into consideration i need all HD gear setup right now things adds up really fast ,ive been flying analog last time and sold it all since i could not afford to buy new drone and cam (ive lost my Flywoo LR :/ ) hopefully that prices will go down after 11th april considering also used stuff to get into air in a moth or so.
Tnx for all detailed vids , helps a lot.
I want this for my 4 inch long range. Saves weight by replacing the action cam. Deff getting one for that build. Sticking eith Vista on my bando basher
I knew a long time ago I wanted to get into DJI, currently I just have my Radiomaster (eachiene) tx16x flashed with with edge tx radio but haven't gotten to a build yet, been spending all my time in simulators, but I've always learned the most from your videos, now I just need to hold out a little longer and go with the goggles 2 and the o3 controller also need to get my commercial license as my step mom is now a realtor and I have proposed a business deal with her once I get my license to get some shots of houses. So once I'm ready to make my first couple builds I'll be using the affiliate links.. I wanna make a cinewoop for that stuff and I want to make me a good freestyle drone, thanks for the informative videos.
Thanks Joshua! Will this O3 air unit bind directly to the Smart controller without fpv goggles? For some reason I cannot find the answer anywere!
we have tried to fly 4 avatas at our field at same time no go three works fine
The only thing I care about and the only reason I may someday get the new system is the extra range and penetration. The 720 video is good enough for me but you can never have too much range or penetration to ensure that you don't lose your quad.
I bought the Avata with the goggles 2 as my first fpv and ever since I’ve watched so many of your videos. Looks like I’ll be buying a quad with the 03 air unit and learn to do some mountain surfing and chasing my friends on their mountain bikes here in Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thanks for all work you put into your videos!
That's awesome I use V2 goggles and air unit and I hope I can go surf mountains in Switzerland because I'm not very far
If you have the avata the 03 is for you but the frames need to catch up to the swole camera. Ready and waiting.
Can you assign the momentary switch on the top right of the Radiomaster Boxer as the start/stop record button when flying the DJI O3 Air Unit?
No you can't.
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I have the Avata, and it looks like the same setup. Glad there is a screw mount option, but I think most just double-side tape it to the frame anyway (I like screws TBH...) The fit of the camera up front is definitely going to be an issue, especially if frame manufacturers have to redesign for just 3-4mm of extra width. The quality of the Avata camera is pretty decent, so maybe some will use it instead of a GoPro, to save weight. Great review as always!!!!
is it possible change the output power of the O3 using the v2 goggles?
No. That function is the same with both goggles.
the antennas on top just pull off. As always, great work on this review of the O3 air unit.
Josh,
Thank you for making this very informative review. You and @Kabab, have provided exactly what I needed to make a selection for my first FPV drone.
So just so I'm clear the original dji remote does not currently work with the goggles 2 or the o3 air unit? I really hope they make the stuff compatible I'm good with my original air units in my original remote I would just like those smaller goggles
Great video. Maybe I missed it but if I use the 03 air unit with my V2 goggles, will I have the beta flight OSD? Or is that a feature that is part of the new goggles2?
@@loraerial thanks for the reply. So it seems the osd is only with 03 air unit AND goggles 2
@@loraerial how did you get OSD working? I'm on BF4.3 but doesn't work. thanks!
Thank you so much for the video! could you show the drone you threw it in? I would really love a little pastelist of the drone you are rocking :) Thanks!!!
I LOVE THAT OSD DISPLAY
Love the honesty, Joshua. Thank you so much!
YES, the abbreviated live stream was well worth it!!!
Excellent review, as always. One question - is there SD card recording on both the goggles 2 and the O3 air unit, and if so what is the difference? Is it like the previous generation where the goggles record lower quality video?
Yes, SD card on both, but also internal storage on the air unit if you prefer not to use an SD card. It's exactly like all other FPV systems -- the goggles can only record what they receiver, which is degraded compared to the on-board recording.
Have to say im pretty impressed. And with 4k playback that can compare to a gopro11 hero... Watch out.
Please do another video comparing the new Goggles 2 to the V2 goggles AFTER you have COMPLETELY TWEAKED the adjustable parameters in the V2 goggles, available with 120fps cameras. This CAN make a HUGE difference in how the image in the V2 goggles looks when compared to the OLED Goggles 2. I anticipated most V2 goggle owners don't tweak their settings for things like contrast, saturation, brightness, sharpness, etc. BUT, when tweaked, they will get the V2 goggles much closer to in goggle image quality when compared to the Goggles 2. I'd love to see how close you can get them. Thanks very much for considering doing this comparison video for us. 😎🤘
The bottom line for me is there's no way to make up the absurd brightness and contrast ratio of OLED. You simply can't do it. You can make an LCD screen look as good as it can, and an OLED will still always blow it away.
Awesome review as always Sir. Thank you
Have had the dji fpv a year now. Was not able to really use it much in the past 9 months. Just recently acquired the Avata w goggles 2 a couple of weeks ago and have now had time to put in to them. I'm finding my self chicken shit to go full manual as I really am a noob. I have been on the sim religiously lately to practice and really love the entire concept of fpv. As I prefer the video quality feedback from either dji drones and have no clue how you avid fpvers use blocky noisy analog without getting skull ache, I'm definitely going 03 in a RTF, currently on GetFPV in a 5inch s6. I'm not afraid to crash a custom as these are much easier for me to repair and I already have everything else dji, so this I think makes more sense. As I'm not familiar with part compatibility between all the manufacturers I have chosen to go RTF, but my next custom I will build myself after getting more familiar with components etc.
The antennas on the goggles 2 snap in. They pop off if you pull straight out.
I have the v2 goggles and want the o3 air unit but pretty bummed I also would have to buy another transmitter to use it. And on top of that, have to keep my old dji transmitter to use my vista's.
Great video. Didn't even know this existed and I've been putting off building a drone for a while. This might just be what I've wanted.
Nice review JB 👍🏼 saving the weight of an action is a game changer. Hope to see more comparison on video quality
Great review JB, as always. This could possibly put my old Session 5's out of commission. Very interesting!
Love that shirt! Also even though I don’t change much as for gear still like the info. The old air unit replaced my gopro. Even though I have new 11mini. But wouldn’t use it on quad to heavy and prefer older air units.
#1 smaller controller works
# 2 new form factor those are my favorites things that could cause me to upgrade.
Hello. If someone goes digital and for DJI the best option is to go with the goggles 2. Someone who is on digital with the V2 there is no need to switch to the goggles 2 since the onboard recording of the AU O3 is amazing. Yes OLED is amazing but not necessary for freestyle,bando etc for me! And not to mention the 99 dollars for a replacement O3 camera!!
Joshua....can you tell me.....The old DJI radio controller that you could link to any air unit or caddx (the plain looking black DJI controller with two antennas....rotor riot carries it).....does that controller link with the new air unit as well, or do you have to buy the new radio that came with FPV drone and Avata?
No, it does not. They say they are doing backwards compatibility with the old vTX. Maybe that will include the old controller, but we don't know.
The quality looks amazing.
I would like to know if spectator mode has been improved and if you can spectate between v2 and 02 goggles thanks mate 👍
I've seen people pull the antennas off the goggles and they're just held on with a connector (rpsma I seem to remember but that could be wrong).
nice job! question can i plug the goggles 2 into the usb module of my phantom 3 pro radio like i already do with the fatsharks? and whats the DJI controller got to do with it? to my understanding the o3 unit is a camera video tx im thinking of just slapping this unit on my flying wing which i already control with my jr transmitter. I never understood the bundle including the dji remote how would i controle my plane or quad with a dji controler? thanks
Hey Josh, the Antennas are removable. Yesterday i removed it inadvertently on Friends Goggles. In there ist a SMA Connector. Only need to pull off the Antennas, the are only plugged in.
32:11 Maybe around 600 US$? The only store I found here in France (official DJI retailer) lists them at 850€. So 1100€ for google + a full o3 system... outch
Does disabling auto temp control allow the 03 units to run at armed power like the older vistas without any flight controller or arming hacks?
No unfortunately not. Get the "O3 armer" from pyrodrone.com.
@JoshuaBardwell you rock, thank you for the reply. Merry Christmas.
So do I need to buy a naked go pro for my cine log 30? Do you think the on board camera on the 3 is enough? I do some film capture for marketing.
I pulled the trigger,at RDQ. Lets hope Dji gets the first batch correct. Is the wiring harness the same as the air units?
From the store, the new antennas suggest that they are dual-polarised and dual-band. It's possible that even though it didn't allow you to select 2.4GHz, it was also using it during the tests which could explain why your aftermarket antennas didn't perform as well.
It's also worth noting that the store claims that the Avata's ND filters fit onto this camera.
The Googles 2 include head tracking, is this exposed as output channels by the O3 air unit? (With or without the controller)
In the UK, the Googles 2 are listed at £729 while the FPV Goggles V2 are listed at £489.
I was thinking the same. Maybe a test with stock V2 antennas would be a good idea since they are dual band.
Cool!
-Me, student without much money and time to fly, with Eachine EV800Ds, cheapo everything, using Frsky and Flysky with jumper T12 in middle Europe with legal 25mW VTX limit, dropping video & RC link behind a tree 10 meters away
Amazing review JB
You can simply pull out the two external antennas to replace them. I am sure there will be third party antennas soon.