*_Troy and Persia seem to be synonymous. The king holding his staff at _**_0:28_**_ is exactly how Darius the great or Darius III is depicted in persepolis and the Darius vase. In the darius vase he is shown wearing a phrygian cap just like in the fresco._*
Troy were Phrygians for sure. But their 'descendants' that escaped the war went to Lavinium Italy. That's why you see their imagery in Rome. You have to remember the Persians occupied their territory after the war. They 'acquired' or claimed everything they left behind. Their carvings, their etchings, their businesses, their homes or whatever didn't burn. Anything they 'liked' they took back home. The enslaved craftsmen among them. So yes, they would have some common blood. (If they bred with their acquired slaves) The Phrygians have more in common with the Minoans around Crete then they do with Persians. Persians and Hindus came out of the '144k' overpopulating tribes of Israel (see Greek Book of Revelations) that took over Caananite territory. You know who was part of their group by their forehead markings. They're just Israelites that didn't want to be Jews. They 'followed' the old cult ways longer then the jews did though. Persians try to 're-acquire' a link to history through conquest. They didn't ORIGINATE it. At best they're a branch of lost children. They've forgotten their ancestors....and tried to write their own history.
@@kareharpies *_Only smart one of my replies. There's a reason to why the western media would rather the Medo-Persian Empire be forgotten. The truth can only be found there._*
I was in Pompeii many years ago and it was so unique. The inhabitants were very industrious and very communal. They were known for their commerce. The layout of the streets was well designed to accommodate people,horses and water flowing from the mountain area. Not mentioned hear,is the fact that, as a port the were many who stayed for pleasure after trading their wears. Pompeii was known for its "Red light districk" .The walls had friezes of the probable "menu" of what was offered by the ladies. The patrons would choose their desires. Because of the language barrier,the Friezes served as the communication between the ladies and the client. It was very eerie walking through and I felt the presents of this wonderful civilization. They were so clever,I was surprised to not wonder why they didn't get away from the eruption.
This was the ideal tutorial for 8am on a Sunday morning; just brilliant. I had no idea that the murals had been decoded to this extent. You give a fine narration, and fleshing out of even tiny remaining fragments. Who the heck ARE you?! Kudos from Medellin Colombia.
My new favorite channel. So relaxing yet informative. I love battles and town building but this video truly breaks down the tiny detail and wonderful history. Thanks Guys!
I just discovered your wonderful channel and I think your work is amazing. I love all these ancient architectures. So much history and so many stories of by-gone Eras. 🌺
I was in Pompeii about 1976 as part of my college international studies. But the tour guides were on strike and I missed the better spots. I did better at Herculaneum. Great to see such amazing artwork.
I was at the house of the Menander and the house of the faun 3 weeks ago. This house I missed. Beautiful garden indeed and that fountain is def not the norm. I wish they would have replicas of the beds, tables and furniture so that I could see how they used the rooms.
In the floating table room, one of the frescoes, reminds of Romeo and Juliet, who killed herself, because she thought Romeo was dead. They were each from families that hated the other.
Amazing frescoes with inscriptions in Greek for the residents in this beautiful house to read daily!The art is astounding and brings to life the Myths of the Greeks Hercules and Iliad with Achilles.
Great content. One suggestion: try not to keep pausing when there is no comma or period as it sounds unnatural. The filming, word enunciation and music are good, too.
So Heracles is the 'larger' panel and more important then the lower panel about Achilles and the war at Troy? But both stories depict the war against Troy. That's interesting. What would the story have been if you played it in order it was painted? In the upper panel West Wall its about the death of Heracles. In the story he takes 'Deianira' from a river god and she poisons him. They place him on a funeral pyre. In the upper panel North Wall we see the first panel a naked man is pointing. Hermes is frequently depicted as naked with a 'scarf' over one shoulder. He conducted souls to the afterlife. In the upper panel East Wall from Left to Right we've got Hercules arrive at Troy, get into a fight with many more troops then himself, sees the woman returned to another man In the upper panel South Wall we see the thinner naked man (Hermes again?) crowns a child with a Phryigian Cap. If you follow Phyrigian mythology and the Cybele fertility cult you'd know that this order events is what they'd expect when dealing with an 'afterlife myth'. Great heroes when they were grievously injured, went to the fertility goddesses at Cybele's temple to access their afterlife. They did this by proving their worth (Heracles would have done the 'test of strength'), then earning the right to mate with a woman. They would create a new child who would be educated by the Phrygians as a member of their community in their youth. They were sent out to be new rulers of kingdoms (typically from the lands of their fathers). Cybelle's cult was at Pessinus in Ballihisar Turkey. Same 'region' as Troy. This panel sequence implies that Heracles followed the Phyrigian rites. He offended a river god, took a nymph, got poisoned by that nymph. Hermes sent him to Troy for his afterlife. He probably brought Deianira with him. He passed his 'test of strength', to get his afterlife reward. He was also required to return Deianira (notice the woman wears yellow on the West wall too). His CHILDREN were raised up a caste by the Phyrigians to became rulers. In myth Alexiares and Anicetus were his immortal sons to the goddess Hebe. Their birth occurred after Heracles' mortal death and subsequent ascent to Olympus. Now in the LOWER panels on the West wall from left to right. 'a Plague'. On the North Wall: The Trojans are on the offensive. Someone dies. Protesilaus probably (first greek to die at Troy). Then a charioted man in armor. Then Thetis (Achilles' mother) urged him NOT to fight. But then someone is killed (dragged by a chariot). Probably Troilus (last man killed by Achilles before he pulled out). They brought his body back to Troy. IN the lower panels on the east wall from Left to Right we've got a funeral with funerary games. Agamemnon begging Achilles to return to the fight offering gifts (the horse cart). Two people sitting in a cave (an image of Breiseis being returned?). Another begging scene (Patrocles asking to go to war in his place?) Achilles now armorless refuses to fight. In the South wall we see Odysseus, Ajax and Pheonix try to talk him back into the fight. I think you've got the right 'event' here but you are reading the frescos wrong. They are placing emphasis on Achilles refusal to fight until the very end. I wonder if the owner of this house was a 'secret follower of Phyrigian/Phoenician mysteries'...
Why does it look like these wall paintings were covered with a thin layer of concrete. I noticed that there are shadows on the rim of the concrete. Do the Italians not want us to see these entire walls or these paintings?
An amusing coincidence that the first painter whose signature survives is called Lucius - the patron saint of painters in the Christian tradition is St Luke.
Yes and the Jewish religious stories comes from older polytheistic religions like the sumerian story the Gilgamesch Epos. It's the original version of the story with Noah. Noah is orginally Gilgamesch. The religions are always copies and in fact it goes along with nature catastrophes, with knowledge from pagan cults. It's all fictional and religions has the purpose to give the people hope but we don't can see this fictional god or gods. It's only a story like Al Ron Hubbard's "religion" or like the Marvel stories. People always want to believe that the world are created by a higher power, but the science give us the right answers. We are old enough to think without religion and, of course, without fundamental religious beliefs like "two genders", "homosexual people are not good if they kiss each other in public", "don't believe in the Darwin's theory", "every unbeliever goes to hell", "trans* women are not women", etc. These sentences are intolerant against trans* persons, against other sexual interests, against the science, against the democratic state, against the rights of women, etc. I hope you have good behavior and I hope that you don't believe this evil sentences. If God exists then he or her accept and love every man and woman and everyone out and between this construct. Are you a tolerant religious person?
An excellent overview. I’ve visited Pompeii and Herculaneum twice. There’s so much to see. Ancient Rome is my favourite era in history.
*_Troy and Persia seem to be synonymous. The king holding his staff at _**_0:28_**_ is exactly how Darius the great or Darius III is depicted in persepolis and the Darius vase. In the darius vase he is shown wearing a phrygian cap just like in the fresco._*
Troy were Phrygians for sure. But their 'descendants' that escaped the war went to Lavinium Italy. That's why you see their imagery in Rome.
You have to remember the Persians occupied their territory after the war. They 'acquired' or claimed everything they left behind. Their carvings, their etchings, their businesses, their homes or whatever didn't burn. Anything they 'liked' they took back home. The enslaved craftsmen among them. So yes, they would have some common blood. (If they bred with their acquired slaves) The Phrygians have more in common with the Minoans around Crete then they do with Persians.
Persians and Hindus came out of the '144k' overpopulating tribes of Israel (see Greek Book of Revelations) that took over Caananite territory. You know who was part of their group by their forehead markings. They're just Israelites that didn't want to be Jews. They 'followed' the old cult ways longer then the jews did though. Persians try to 're-acquire' a link to history through conquest. They didn't ORIGINATE it. At best they're a branch of lost children. They've forgotten their ancestors....and tried to write their own history.
@MadKingOfMadaya good catch! Synonymous indeed.
@@kareharpies *_Only smart one of my replies. There's a reason to why the western media would rather the Medo-Persian Empire be forgotten. The truth can only be found there._*
Excellent narration.
I was in Pompeii many years ago and it was so unique. The inhabitants were very industrious and very communal. They were known for their commerce. The layout of the streets was well designed to accommodate people,horses and water flowing from the mountain area. Not mentioned hear,is the fact that, as a port the were many who stayed for pleasure after trading their wears. Pompeii was known for its "Red light districk" .The walls had friezes of the probable "menu" of what was offered by the ladies. The patrons would choose their desires. Because of the language barrier,the Friezes served as the communication between the ladies and the client. It was very eerie walking through and I felt the presents of this wonderful civilization. They were so clever,I was surprised to not wonder why they didn't get away from the eruption.
This was the ideal tutorial for 8am on a Sunday morning; just brilliant. I had no idea that the murals had been decoded to this extent. You give a fine narration, and fleshing out of even tiny remaining fragments. Who the heck ARE you?! Kudos from Medellin Colombia.
I'm obsessed with this video and the gardens of the house and everything!!!! I can only imagine how beautiful it must be to be there!!!!
Τhank you for the excellent description!
Stunning and a reflection of the cultural background of the classical world. Thank you.
My new favorite channel. So relaxing yet informative. I love battles and town building but this video truly breaks down the tiny detail and wonderful history. Thanks Guys!
I really appreciate the video. I visited the villa in 2005 and now know so much more about the paintings and site. Thanks so much.
I wonder if theres a reconstruction of these paintings somewhere, thanks for the video, nice explanations.
I just discovered your wonderful channel and I think your work is amazing. I love all these ancient architectures. So much history and so many stories of by-gone Eras. 🌺
This is amazing content with wonderful video quality and research, keep it up 💯
Gorgeous content, the images, everything. And the background music is perfect. Keep the good work up. Take care.
TRULY Wonderful...I thank you 😊😇
I can't wait for more videos from you guys☺️ keep up the good work 👍
Excellent. Thank you! 😁👍👍👍
I was in Pompeii about 1976 as part of my college international studies. But the tour guides were on strike and I missed the better spots. I did better at Herculaneum. Great to see such amazing artwork.
Yes! I love your videos!
I was at the house of the Menander and the house of the faun 3 weeks ago. This house I missed. Beautiful garden indeed and that fountain is def not the norm. I wish they would have replicas of the beds, tables and furniture so that I could see how they used the rooms.
I would live there now. Absolutely exquisite!
Brilliant! Thank you for sharing!
Wow! The original Romeo & Juliet story . 🥳
Wonderful!! Would you mind sharing the music used in this video, i love it!
I have been there twice and go back again latere this year. But very thanks for the informativ history videos ❤
Very very interesting!
In the floating table room, one of the frescoes, reminds of Romeo and Juliet, who killed herself, because she thought Romeo was dead. They were each from families that hated the other.
Amazing frescoes with inscriptions in Greek for the residents in this beautiful house to read daily!The art is astounding and brings to life the Myths of the Greeks Hercules and Iliad with Achilles.
Amazing.
Wow wow wowwww so beautiful!!!!
10:27 How do you do this "illumination" of a selected part ? What software do you use to do that ?
I now know where my next holiday is going to be
Please do a video on the temple of apollo at delphi and what it was decorations where
It would be so amazing to just talk to the family who this beautiful home. Stories they could tell.
Great content. One suggestion: try not to keep pausing when there is no comma or period as it sounds unnatural. The filming, word enunciation and music are good, too.
So Heracles is the 'larger' panel and more important then the lower panel about Achilles and the war at Troy? But both stories depict the war against Troy.
That's interesting. What would the story have been if you played it in order it was painted?
In the upper panel West Wall its about the death of Heracles. In the story he takes 'Deianira' from a river god and she poisons him. They place him on a funeral pyre.
In the upper panel North Wall we see the first panel a naked man is pointing. Hermes is frequently depicted as naked with a 'scarf' over one shoulder. He conducted souls to the afterlife.
In the upper panel East Wall from Left to Right we've got Hercules arrive at Troy, get into a fight with many more troops then himself, sees the woman returned to another man
In the upper panel South Wall we see the thinner naked man (Hermes again?) crowns a child with a Phryigian Cap.
If you follow Phyrigian mythology and the Cybele fertility cult you'd know that this order events is what they'd expect when dealing with an 'afterlife myth'. Great heroes when they were grievously injured, went to the fertility goddesses at Cybele's temple to access their afterlife. They did this by proving their worth (Heracles would have done the 'test of strength'), then earning the right to mate with a woman. They would create a new child who would be educated by the Phrygians as a member of their community in their youth. They were sent out to be new rulers of kingdoms (typically from the lands of their fathers). Cybelle's cult was at Pessinus in Ballihisar Turkey. Same 'region' as Troy.
This panel sequence implies that Heracles followed the Phyrigian rites. He offended a river god, took a nymph, got poisoned by that nymph. Hermes sent him to Troy for his afterlife. He probably brought Deianira with him. He passed his 'test of strength', to get his afterlife reward. He was also required to return Deianira (notice the woman wears yellow on the West wall too). His CHILDREN were raised up a caste by the Phyrigians to became rulers.
In myth Alexiares and Anicetus were his immortal sons to the goddess Hebe. Their birth occurred after Heracles' mortal death and subsequent ascent to Olympus.
Now in the LOWER panels on the West wall from left to right. 'a Plague'.
On the North Wall: The Trojans are on the offensive. Someone dies. Protesilaus probably (first greek to die at Troy). Then a charioted man in armor. Then Thetis (Achilles' mother) urged him NOT to fight. But then someone is killed (dragged by a chariot). Probably Troilus (last man killed by Achilles before he pulled out). They brought his body back to Troy.
IN the lower panels on the east wall from Left to Right we've got a funeral with funerary games. Agamemnon begging Achilles to return to the fight offering gifts (the horse cart). Two people sitting in a cave (an image of Breiseis being returned?). Another begging scene (Patrocles asking to go to war in his place?) Achilles now armorless refuses to fight.
In the South wall we see Odysseus, Ajax and Pheonix try to talk him back into the fight.
I think you've got the right 'event' here but you are reading the frescos wrong. They are placing emphasis on Achilles refusal to fight until the very end.
I wonder if the owner of this house was a 'secret follower of Phyrigian/Phoenician mysteries'...
If you like repetition, you'll love the narration of this video. Sometimes they were flooded, possibly raised fish being the most egregious.
are you still running this channel? @History Victorum
Why does it look like these wall paintings were covered with a thin layer of concrete. I noticed that there are shadows on the rim of the concrete. Do the Italians not want us to see these entire walls or these paintings?
3:37 Nice of tamara and antonio to leave a tag on a 2000 year old fresco.
An amusing coincidence that the first painter whose signature survives is called Lucius - the patron saint of painters in the Christian tradition is St Luke.
Every thing on top of rock ,brick, was
The house was "bombed in WWII"?!? by which barbarians? It must have been delibrate, bacause the ancient runins are good to no war-munggers anywhere
You seem to know a lot, but you don't know that they did not eat at tables, but on reclining couches.
You didn’t listen to the video at all, did you.
🄿🅁🄾🄼🄾🅂🄼 😉
King David was watching Bathsheba, forbidden.....could these stories have come from Jewish Bible stories?
Yes and the Jewish religious stories comes from older polytheistic religions like the sumerian story the Gilgamesch Epos. It's the original version of the story with Noah. Noah is orginally Gilgamesch. The religions are always copies and in fact it goes along with nature catastrophes, with knowledge from pagan cults.
It's all fictional and religions has the purpose to give the people hope but we don't can see this fictional god or gods.
It's only a story like Al Ron Hubbard's "religion" or like the Marvel stories.
People always want to believe that the world are created by a higher power, but the science give us the right answers.
We are old enough to think without religion and, of course, without fundamental religious beliefs like "two genders", "homosexual people are not good if they kiss each other in public", "don't believe in the Darwin's theory", "every unbeliever goes to hell", "trans* women are not women", etc.
These sentences are intolerant against trans* persons, against other sexual interests, against the science, against the democratic state, against the rights of women, etc.
I hope you have good behavior and I hope that you don't believe this evil sentences.
If God exists then he or her accept and love every man and woman and everyone out and between this construct.
Are you a tolerant religious person?
He did pretty good for himself ?? Poor guy. Hmm. Wonder just how many slaves has worked on that house ??
79AD in Italy and no sign of Jesus?.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jesus would have been the last thing on these pagan's minds.
There is nothing which depicts Christianity in Pompeii, only Sodom and Gomorrah.
For sure they did not depict the evangelicals' ignorance, stupidity and bigotry .