they could've make a new card instead of revamping chavez 🤦♂️. like just add a new card beside sebastian in the season pass with that +2 effect. no need to change chavez
For the first match shown, I don't think Regis realized that he'd have already met the condition to fill it before Gladiator filled it, making it actually the better choice. I know because I've filled the location in the same turn as my opponent, but lost the Raft Boost because it was filled during the turn, and they filled it with their played cards.
@@cristoalba5781 infinite CONQUEST I played her from proving grounds up to get an infinite ticket then lost first infinite round lol. Playing her to infinite on ladder would be crazy
He feels underwhelming, but the deck counters a lot of decks with the killmonger and brood/forge/surfer on the final turn if you run sera wins a lot of games. 19/20 power in one lane in a single turn is crazy,
There’s a glitch where the cards aren’t showing the right power sometimes when they’ve had a modifier. Confused the shit out of me for several games before I realised lol
I Think Shaw is better in a Wong Buff deck. things like Wong + Ironheart / Absorbing man, you can even keep Okoye and Nakia. but then you include the Panther / Zola package since Panther also benefits from the other cards as well
what can i put instead of brood gladiator? i was thinking sinister and maybe groot? Or maybe swordmaster/lady sif to play last turn/into cosmo; I don’t hav Polaris yet
My favorite junk deck took a big hit with that Luke Cage change, and Chavez just ruins like half of my other decks now. Idk what to even do aside from playing around Shaw since that's every single deck I see now, shadow king is probably gonna be my favorite card
you have to play a black knight deck his change is insane its an unkillable 20 power card ive got him in a deck with zabu and sera for some absolutely crazy power dumps
Silver surfer was my Forst Card what i buyed with Tokens 😂 never played much till Yesterday. This deck is not too much op but u need spreed power with logic
Gladiator can't finish a Raft for the opponent, because unrevealed cards count as the four, and your unrevealed Gladiator would trigger the Raft, meaning it wouldn't trigger when it called in an opposing card.
I'm currently playing a similar deck I named "Shawra Surfer", which has Daken (Who I'm tempted to swap out) + Sera, instead of Cosmo + Chavez. I can see how the Chavez change fits her into this deck, but you have no idea when you are drawing Shaw (Howard is still a wasted card), and I don't like the RNG with it.
If you think about it though, with no Sera your playing a good buffable 3 drop and a 2 drop on 5. Then 2 3’s on 6. With Serra it is 4 points on turn 5 then 3 3 drops on turn 6. It does nothing really unless your going more 2 drop route that is, then she makes up some value.
Every once in a while I get excited about playing Snap before I remember how miserable it was with all the bots. Just felt like a chore to slog through
when i read the changes and see Chavez i knew it was only for putting her on a Shaw deck >_> i hate that latest patch so much the only good thing is the nerf to Alioth
I think Daken is a pretty good alternative for gladiator for those who don't have him, but WBN is a bit awkward to use with brood. If you want to use wolf, I'd say you probably want to drop brood, but that would be a pretty big loss for the handbuff stuff.
@@DoctorBoom. I agree it's worse, but im not sure what would be a better choice if you don't have gladiator, as plenty of people (myself included) didn't pick him up. Maybe just Polaris, im not sure.
@@gruenenator yeah idk, I'm getting sick of second dinner and their bullshit adjustments. no matter what you do you get screwed over if you don't get all cards, all decisions making with caches end up being irrelevant, you decided to skip a card? well sucks for you it gets buffed, you decided to get the other card? well sucks for you it's now got nerfed. all the cards I decided to skip got buffed, and all the cards I decided to get got nerfed. they always do this.
Why would they completely rework a card like Chavez? She was seeing play without being broken. That is the perfect place for a card to be. If you're going to rework a card completely, you usually want it to be a card that sees no play, and would likely be toxic if it was ever viable, like Adam Warlock and Kang. Also just looked at the rest of the list, how could they ruin my boy Luke Cage. And my god Alioth is completely worthless now. Was it even still a problem? I haven't seen it much since its first nerf. I know it still saw play, but the -2 seemed to make it a lot more reasonable, couldn't just win a location on its own so easily.
My biggest complaint and at the same time favorite thing about marvel snap is how unoriginal 90% plus the playerbase is. I saw this deck no less than 20 games yesterday and took it down 16 times for 4 to 8 cubes each time. Makes climbing each season a snap.
The highest winrate Surfer list prior to the patch didn't run Sera. I suspect dropping priority on 5 with a weak play made it too risky into Alioth sometimes. And generally Sera prefers reactive turn 6 lines, like Rogue or Killmonger. This deck wants to be proactive for max stats. That said, Alioth is nerfed and data may bear out a different answer. Who knows!
i would prob tke out chavez + cosmo n put in werewolf + sera making it a sera surfer for the turn 6 big play, plus theres alot of reveals in this deck. good enough for werewolf to get at least 2 buffs
Can someone pls explain to me why sera is good in surfer decks ? Is it just to save everything for one big pop off turn? (and if so why is that good?) Bc like, theoretically, isn't just playing a 3 drop on turn 5 the same number of 3 cost cards on the board, while also giving you the possibility of weaving in a 2 cost on turn 5. It sera just more defensible ?
. Sera gives you a big swing on the last turn and allows you to contest all 3 lanes even if you don't have surfer. Basically she makes it harder to play arround surfer
@@pedroabreu005 but like, how does she do that? What are the logistics of how she facilitates that? /gen I was running a sera surfer deck for a bit, and it seemed slow. Like I was skipping turns 1&2, so that I could play a 3 drop on turns 3&4, then Sera on 5, and three 3-drops on turn 6. So you're total card out put is five 3 cost cards + sera. More recently, I was running a hand/deck buffy brood+sinister+patriot+surfer deck. And basically, I would consistently have a 3 drop for turns 3,4,5, and then two on turn 6. But I can also weave in a Bast or forge, or a mojo or a sinister or w/e else in to turns 3,4, and 5. In every way it feel better to not include Sera. Unless you're trying to do some big Kingpin combo or something I just don't get it :( pls help
@@shardgunner4815Sera just makes it harder for the op to know what you have going on turn 6. She's also good if you're going heavy on tech like rogue and especially shadow king that wants you to give up priority (Killmonger too in some match ups). That said I don't think she's necessary in surfer.
Very close to my Deck only 4 cards different. Mine won 25 and loss 2 games so far. I don't use Chavez, Cosmo, Gladiator, or Maximus. Interested to see how this goes.
They aren't even pretending anymore to try and balance the game - in what world do they release Shaw as 3/4. I am so glad I stopped playing this game 4 months ago. Pay to win BS.
The way I'm seeing Marvel Snap these days is like they're dishing out these powerhouse cards or "anchors" for all the different archetypes we've got. We have Hitmonkey for the OG bounce decks, Werewolf by Night for Loki or Bounce Hawk lists, Black Knight for those discard-focused ones, and Shaw for the Surfer decks. It's like each archetype's getting its own special boost.
It’s so weird seeing Chavez in the middle of a deck
Haven't played in 3 months. That Chavez change is crazy.
I've been playing n that shit is still crazy 😂
I changed like 14 decks
@@shardgunner4815She is still the same for me, so did it get changed back or…
@@SPUDumai Update your game
also havent played in a while and it took me so long to even find her in the decklist. crazy.
I appreciate how you compliment your opponents' clever plays and flashy wins. It's more fun to watch someone who can enjoy losses too.
yupp big W
Something about Chavez being a 2-3 and not a 6-9 feels so wrong.
Dunno why they made her a 6 cost anyway, shes not a big bad like thanos, doom, etc
@@dandogamerwell, she is the face of the marvel snap (at least in my opinion)
they could've make a new card instead of revamping chavez 🤦♂️. like just add a new card beside sebastian in the season pass with that +2 effect. no need to change chavez
@@dandogamer yeah but there’s also Hulk, She-Hulk, etc
@@Kbro1 they deserve a 6 cost, like it's the freaking hulk aha
For the first match shown, I don't think Regis realized that he'd have already met the condition to fill it before Gladiator filled it, making it actually the better choice. I know because I've filled the location in the same turn as my opponent, but lost the Raft Boost because it was filled during the turn, and they filled it with their played cards.
2:45 Gladiator won't let them finish the Raft because you'll finish it before Gladiator's On Reveal.
Muir island as a hot location right now makes Shaw a beast.
Chavez?! My Agatha deck….
BRO same that is the first thing I thought when I saw this change. I played Agatha to infinite conquest what am I gonna do 😢
@@cristoalba5781 infinite CONQUEST I played her from proving grounds up to get an infinite ticket then lost first infinite round lol. Playing her to infinite on ladder would be crazy
*opponent plays Polaris* “is the opponent literally playing the same deck as me?!” *doesn’t have Polaris in his deck*
23:22 never get tired of these gladiator plays, such a silly card, i love it
27:22 another double gladiator! awesome lmao
Love the fact that their brand new card has a visual glitch 🤣🤣
He feels underwhelming, but the deck counters a lot of decks with the killmonger and brood/forge/surfer on the final turn if you run sera wins a lot of games. 19/20 power in one lane in a single turn is crazy,
Also on my phone the "make me a deck" button is not there. Anyone else come across this
I think Nakia feels good in a Shaw deck, because you can hold her until she can hit Shaw or Brood. I feel like Okoye misses too easily though
There’s a glitch where the cards aren’t showing the right power sometimes when they’ve had a modifier. Confused the shit out of me for several games before I realised lol
I'm replacing Chavez and Gladiator for Wong and Odin. Go all in!
Regis at 6:23 "Wait, am I high?"
Same
I Think Shaw is better in a Wong Buff deck. things like Wong + Ironheart / Absorbing man, you can even keep Okoye and Nakia. but then you include the Panther / Zola package since Panther also benefits from the other cards as well
I like the idea i think I would also run Nico
21:37 Idk that they got greedy, every card the played cost 3 or less thanks to elysium so they might just not have had anything to play on cosmos
New card seems fun. Can’t believe I didn’t think to put Gladiator in my version, will give it a try.
U can also throw in daken
how can I replace Gladiator if I do not have it ?
I just noticed that little "Series x" tag on the card 😲
what can i put instead of brood gladiator? i was thinking sinister and maybe groot? Or maybe swordmaster/lady sif to play last turn/into cosmo; I don’t hav Polaris yet
24:00 this game would make a great TikTok reel short etc lolol
is it even possible to have a sub for Brood?
My America Chavez is still a 6-9, and I’m on the new update
The deck is called Buff Shaw
Why chaves 2 cost 😮
Does the new Shaw card actually make Captain America useful?
Doesn't work with ongoing buff
Does anyone know who can I switch Gladiator with? Other than Werewolf or Daken
My Chavez is still 6/9 wtf?
Crimson Cosmos is a pretty rough location for this deck
My favorite junk deck took a big hit with that Luke Cage change, and Chavez just ruins like half of my other decks now. Idk what to even do aside from playing around Shaw since that's every single deck I see now, shadow king is probably gonna be my favorite card
Good replacement for brood?
Tbh there isn't a "good" replacement. Best bet is ware wolf by night
The only pros about chavez is her new animation
you have to play a black knight deck his change is insane its an unkillable 20 power card ive got him in a deck with zabu and sera for some absolutely crazy power dumps
my face when i don't own Silver Surfer. Shaw is OP as heck though...glad I have him.
Silver surfer was my Forst Card what i buyed with Tokens 😂 never played much till Yesterday. This deck is not too much op but u need spreed power with logic
Gladiator can't finish a Raft for the opponent, because unrevealed cards count as the four, and your unrevealed Gladiator would trigger the Raft, meaning it wouldn't trigger when it called in an opposing card.
I use absorbing man instead of gladiator
Why the Chavez change ?
I'm currently playing a similar deck I named "Shawra Surfer", which has Daken (Who I'm tempted to swap out) + Sera, instead of Cosmo + Chavez.
I can see how the Chavez change fits her into this deck, but you have no idea when you are drawing Shaw (Howard is still a wasted card), and I don't like the RNG with it.
Yeah but surfer has plenty of room for 2 drops and it can nut with brood or Shaw or just be an above rate 2 drop.
that moment when Okoye is better than Chavez
my chavez is still 6/9, what did i miss
Update ur game
What if you don’t have gladiator what card can replace it.
Shang chi can solve this huge GGEZ
Great minds think a like. I built almost this exact deck right away Sept I had daken instead of gladiator and Mr sinister instead of cosmo
I don’t really mind nerfs but Chavez is upsetting. This game is so much RNG, having 1 consistency tool to appeal to the competitive side seemed fine.
It's Nah-Key-Ah 🤦🏾♂️. They say it a ton in the black panther movies
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i think i have seen that S front in some design.. 🤔ᴴᴹᴹ
Wie meinst du das?
I don't believe that's how you say Nakia
First game I played with him had Sinister London as a location. I won with two 30+ power Shaws and a big Werewolf.
And they just nerfed half of the existing decks to pave the road for you.
A surfer deck without sera is crazy.
Yeah, I need to put gladiator in, but not having Sera is wrong.
Sera kinda overrated no? You can just do a 2 drop and 3 drop on 5
3 3 drops is way better though
If you think about it though, with no Sera your playing a good buffable 3 drop and a 2 drop on 5. Then 2 3’s on 6. With Serra it is 4 points on turn 5 then 3 3 drops on turn 6. It does nothing really unless your going more 2 drop route that is, then she makes up some value.
@@glengaines4286 dude, you want the option of Sera on 5, rather than not.
Still no gladiator buff I see
Makes him not a great option to play
Every once in a while I get excited about playing Snap before I remember how miserable it was with all the bots. Just felt like a chore to slog through
So strange seeing Chavez being the first card played on the board...
I’m playing wright now but Chavez is still 6/9
you need to manually update your game
Update the game
when i read the changes and see Chavez i knew it was only for putting her on a Shaw deck >_> i hate that latest patch so much the only good thing is the nerf to Alioth
Just won 8 cubes with Wolf against Shaw. Wolf confirmed stronger
One match is hardly consistent data lol
Wolf is def stronger though lol@@leinadeserf
together tho
Dropping all new op cards behind a paywall is insanely greedy.
Supporting marvel snap is a morally apprehensible thing to do at this point.
Hard to have any excitement with the dumpster fire of an update that just dropped.
honestly don't see why people run gladiator still the deck seems actively bad with him in
Shaw seems super boring
He's just a stat stick for surfer
as a card, kinda, but he's fun to deck build around
How to spot a loki enjoyer.
another broken imba. this game is pay to win scam
20:45 almost iron patriot super skrull cosmo'd yourself
Why the Chavez change ?
Shaw is INSANE with daken and werewolf! if you replace maximus and gladiator with them, they can get REALLY high powered, and they're all 3 drops
I think Daken is a pretty good alternative for gladiator for those who don't have him, but WBN is a bit awkward to use with brood. If you want to use wolf, I'd say you probably want to drop brood, but that would be a pretty big loss for the handbuff stuff.
@@gruenenator daken sucks as an alternative, you're always forced to destroy it with killmonger otherwise it's a dead card.
Just play loki too.
@@DoctorBoom. I agree it's worse, but im not sure what would be a better choice if you don't have gladiator, as plenty of people (myself included) didn't pick him up. Maybe just Polaris, im not sure.
@@gruenenator yeah idk, I'm getting sick of second dinner and their bullshit adjustments. no matter what you do you get screwed over if you don't get all cards, all decisions making with caches end up being irrelevant, you decided to skip a card? well sucks for you it gets buffed, you decided to get the other card? well sucks for you it's now got nerfed.
all the cards I decided to skip got buffed, and all the cards I decided to get got nerfed. they always do this.
Why would they completely rework a card like Chavez? She was seeing play without being broken. That is the perfect place for a card to be. If you're going to rework a card completely, you usually want it to be a card that sees no play, and would likely be toxic if it was ever viable, like Adam Warlock and Kang.
Also just looked at the rest of the list, how could they ruin my boy Luke Cage. And my god Alioth is completely worthless now. Was it even still a problem? I haven't seen it much since its first nerf. I know it still saw play, but the -2 seemed to make it a lot more reasonable, couldn't just win a location on its own so easily.
Lol "Are they playing literally the same deck as me man?!" After playing Polaris.... Who you aren't playing. 😂
Black widowing Vormir is poetic
Is there a replacement for gladiator?
Like... any other 3 drop. Polaris, spider man, maximus
Yea i went with daken
Game no.2 shows once again how Gladiator can be a threat rather than a resource.
Any replacement for gladiator ?
Any other 3 drop. Gladiator is not a necessary card at all
Weird see Chavez 2/3 lol.
My chavez is still 6-9
My biggest complaint and at the same time favorite thing about marvel snap is how unoriginal 90% plus the playerbase is. I saw this deck no less than 20 games yesterday and took it down 16 times for 4 to 8 cubes each time. Makes climbing each season a snap.
Your Shaw was 5 because in the first turn he changed power and energy because of The Peak...
Putting widow in vormir feelsbadman😔😔
Why did they change chavez????????????
love you regis! why not sera in this deck?
The highest winrate Surfer list prior to the patch didn't run Sera. I suspect dropping priority on 5 with a weak play made it too risky into Alioth sometimes. And generally Sera prefers reactive turn 6 lines, like Rogue or Killmonger. This deck wants to be proactive for max stats.
That said, Alioth is nerfed and data may bear out a different answer. Who knows!
@@RegisKillbin regis!! i cant believe you replied❤❤ thank you for the information😊 love u
Chavez is normal for me??
what’d they do to chavez 😢
He works with hulk Buster too
Why the Chavez change ?
i would prob tke out chavez + cosmo n put in werewolf + sera making it a sera surfer for the turn 6 big play, plus theres alot of reveals in this deck. good enough for werewolf to get at least 2 buffs
The problem with that is Brood, you either go with Werewolf or Brood, as their playstyles are incompatible
Can someone pls explain to me why sera is good in surfer decks ? Is it just to save everything for one big pop off turn? (and if so why is that good?) Bc like, theoretically, isn't just playing a 3 drop on turn 5 the same number of 3 cost cards on the board, while also giving you the possibility of weaving in a 2 cost on turn 5. It sera just more defensible ?
. Sera gives you a big swing on the last turn and allows you to contest all 3 lanes even if you don't have surfer. Basically she makes it harder to play arround surfer
@@pedroabreu005 but like, how does she do that? What are the logistics of how she facilitates that? /gen
I was running a sera surfer deck for a bit, and it seemed slow. Like I was skipping turns 1&2, so that I could play a 3 drop on turns 3&4, then Sera on 5, and three 3-drops on turn 6. So you're total card out put is five 3 cost cards + sera. More recently, I was running a hand/deck buffy brood+sinister+patriot+surfer deck. And basically, I would consistently have a 3 drop for turns 3,4,5, and then two on turn 6. But I can also weave in a Bast or forge, or a mojo or a sinister or w/e else in to turns 3,4, and 5. In every way it feel better to not include Sera. Unless you're trying to do some big Kingpin combo or something I just don't get it :( pls help
@@shardgunner4815Sera just makes it harder for the op to know what you have going on turn 6. She's also good if you're going heavy on tech like rogue and especially shadow king that wants you to give up priority (Killmonger too in some match ups). That said I don't think she's necessary in surfer.
That deck is pretty neat, just fits everything you may want
Very close to my Deck only 4 cards different. Mine won 25 and loss 2 games so far. I don't use Chavez, Cosmo, Gladiator, or Maximus. Interested to see how this goes.
Peak is almost always a severe detriment to whatever I play
They aren't even pretending anymore to try and balance the game - in what world do they release Shaw as 3/4. I am so glad I stopped playing this game 4 months ago. Pay to win BS.
Don’t u mean Daken and not werewolf by night lmao
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The way I'm seeing Marvel Snap these days is like they're dishing out these powerhouse cards or "anchors" for all the different archetypes we've got. We have Hitmonkey for the OG bounce decks, Werewolf by Night for Loki or Bounce Hawk lists, Black Knight for those discard-focused ones, and Shaw for the Surfer decks. It's like each archetype's getting its own special boost.
Anybody wondering why Chavez is a 2-3 in the video but a 6-9 in game
Yeah My Chavez is still 6-9 😂
You haven't updated the game yet, so you can still play with other people who havent updated the game
@@Kyriit5425my phone won’t let me update for some reason
@@T-800skynett it rolls out at different times depending on device, I had to go and manually update mine in the app store.
Is shaw not +2 extra when buffed by forge a bug?
Visual bug. The location power is correct