For agent venom I want to try a deck using the low power destroy idea with Thanos. He always starts in hand so he does not get affected, the drawing power of the stones is good for this kind of deck, the thing that should be tested is how consistent is this, and if this deck can survive without having cheap big power, like death or mockingbird.
Don't think this will work since mysterio's base power is already 4. It's just the illusions have 4 less power then him. So, I think that mysterio might not have any impact from Agent venom but I'm not really sure.
Nobody talkin about misery/thanos/death&killmonger combo where you can draw infinite cards destroyin bad gems on the field and have free death to play basically and a thanos with 4 cost due to reproc of Time Stone. It looks extremely fun to use to me and i will definitely go for it , moreover her week seems pretty strong too with War Machine now being extremely good and Namora. IMO she is at least 3.5 cards she is basically a discounted oden , you could also put Armor down and then proc her without the cons effect of destroyin. Strong with junk decks, steal decks and probably also Darkhawk giving ur opponent insane ammount of rocks since she perfectly plays on curve for all of these decks.
@@K1ngP1ccol0I'd say it won't fit into all discard decks I feel it scales too slow and too little for that for anything except gambit because gambit uses its return to hand property
IT SCALES TOO SLOW???? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU, IT SCALES THE SAME AS APOCALYPSE AND CLEARLY DOESN'T REQUIRE DRACULA TO PLAY HER ALONG WITH SOME OTHER CARDS ON TURN 6 FOR MAX POTENTIA@@NoNameOrLife
C4 with agent venom sounds cool but agent venom should boost like all the cards in bounce im more interested in what he can do there. Plus toxin is a 2/1 so it probably also slots into that shell nicely
I think that we don’t need to reach for the moon and the stars with Anti-Venom. Any deck that can fit Luke Cage and Shadow King would love to play AV. An affliction deck would love to potentially hit a massive discount on cards like Ajax and Man-Thing, but I also wouldn’t underestimate a smaller discount of say 2 on like a Hazmat that allows you to weave it in with Ajax on the final turn. I think AV has real potential to be one of the strongest cards this season, specifically in any deck that runs Luke Cage and Shadow King, and then maybe a Sersi deck also makes use of AV.
@@Giuspy The benefit of Anti-Venom is that your opponent doesn’t know what you hit compared to Iron Lad, creating more snap leverage. Also, AV is better with higher base stat cards and effects you want to save until the final turn: like Hazmat, Sage, and US Agent. AV is worse than Iron Lad as a final turn play and can’t get you a second copy of an effect.
The new cards this month are very good, but the issue is the rest of the cards in the spotlight caches are not very good except for the misery week. This month is not great unless you have lots of keys to spend unfortunately.
Scorn looks disgustingly broken. Like to the point where I genuinely can’t understand how they think this card isn’t going to be completely overpowered
The old version is even more broken. She gives another card in play the same power as herself. The current one scales the same as Apocalypse. She is better because she is a 1 cost card, thus doesn't rely on Dracula but also more vulnerable to Shadow king and maybe even Shang chi if buffed too much.
@@giovannyyyy Modok is all I need to discard all three. Add some silly extra Corvus Glaive, perhaps Wong or Hellcow on turn 4 if I don't intend to play the Dracula - Apocalypse combo. She simply replaced Apocalypse (Because Scorn scales exactly the same as Apocalypse while cost 4 times cheaper than Dracula, you don't even need to play her and half of her scaled power is already on board)
With classic Discard, I find that on turn 6, you're often just playing your top-deck since you just used MODOK. Since Scorn is so cheap, you're very often going to be able to slot her in right alongside that top-deck. Having an extra free 1/6 or 1/8 on top of everything else Discard already has, while ALSO buffing the cards on board, I think is going to be really really solid.
Had this thought while Regis was talking about Anti-Venom....that card in conversation feels a lot a like Pixie. You can try and use Howard the Duck to target something specific, but it can also just give you a chance to high roll some crazy play.
I think we're overlooking that Agent Venom is also reducing power to 4, allowing high power cards that usually wouldn't fit into a C4 deck, like Onslaught for example.
Anti venom/luke cage deck idea. Turn 3 magic, turn 4 antivenom, turn 5 abs man and 1 drop, turn 6 grandmaster and 4 drop, turn 7 is your 3 zero cost cards, luke cage, and whatever else you have with 4 energy?
One question I have for Misery: does the destruction still go off if you somehow get rid of her while the other cards are resolving? Say, you eat Misery with Venom or you use Sersi (yes, I play her and have fun with the card) to turn a 3-cost into Misery which then gives another Sersi proc and turns Misery into a 5-cost. Depending on the answer, it could open up some play routes for the card that allow you to get your busted On-Reveals without nuking them (or just slap Armor into your deck, I guess)
Agent Venom seems more flexible than it first appears, I can see it working really well with Surfer and Brood, Patriot, Hit-Monkey... Even the one or two extra power in some key areas can make the difference. Edit: Anti-Venom seems ideal for a deck built around Ajax or Ongoing effects. Spectrum at 0/0 or Ant-Man at 0/0 seem pretty dang good
Zola, Taskmaster, Knull, Blob, Iron Man, there's also alot of cards that On-Reveal effect alone is worth playing, i think it's gonna be a really good card. Basically just an extra win condition in already good decks, i think it's gonna be fun af.
Anti-Venom suggestion: 5/3: On Reveal: Set the cost and power to 0 of the highest Cost card in your deck and draw it next turn. It removes the problem of hitting something low and provides ample reason to put it in a ton of decks
My best guess for Anti venom is slotting into a c3 deck, Luke for one save and worst case you have valk for whatever gets set to 0 and then back to 3 in the event you miss Luke.
The first thing I considered for AntiVenom was that they could work well with a powerful On Reveal like White Tiger, for you then to Misery (as the stats getting destroyed don't matter). I'm sure there has to be potential there, mana/energy reduction to 0 is always scary.
Unrelated, but I think there would be a very interesting and valuable place for a “In Hand” card text, abilities that work while you’re holding the card. I feel there are a lot of interesting things that can be done with it, like buffing cards in your hand, some sort of tech, cost changing, etc… It feels like something especially interesting and intuitive with the marvel snap gameplay loop
First thing that came to mind with agent venom was hit monkey, marvel boy bounce stuff because often you have hood, kitty, Angela etc and they all benefit from this plus demons stay at 6 since they don’t start in deck
Regarding Anti-Venom, is it maybe good enough in a classic Odin/White Tiger deck? Making a synergy piece (like Wong) or any pay off 0 energy seems kind of crazy there.
Agent Venom i think is gonna be amazing in the Tiny Movers deck that CozySnap built or even just make a low power low cost bounce list with Toxin. You make Toxin a 2/4 that's adding 2 power to all your other cards that got set to 4 power and you can have a hand full of demons with various effects
I disagree with Misery being a 2 star, I think she will be really good in electro decks, both for the electro +misery combo, and for the fact that you can use her in a wong on reveal deck so you can send a lot of tigers and ironheart buffs
The only issue with that is you want to save misery for the last turn in those kinds of deck so why not just use odin? Misery on top of iron heart goes off twice with wong then gets destroyed. Wong iron heart odin lets iron heart go off 4 times.
Misery looks really bad, Electro is prob the only card in the game that benefits from both repeating his On-Reveal effect and being destroyed. And yet there's Wiccan who does the same thing.
@@scrowll1565armor taking one space, then Wong? Taking one slot if you want to, then tou have only 1 place to play on reveal card to then repeat with Mizery, it is just better to play Wong + Mistique or 2 on reveal cards + Odin.
@@impkiller5932 But Odin costs a lot of energy, if you want you can use Sera + misery and armor, the point of using armor + misery is because misery is a cheaper Odin
I already have a C4 deck I've been playing for months. I'll only have to adjust it a little to bring Agent Venom into the fold. I'm stoked. I also have a deck of nothing but 1-3 costs that Agent will be just perfect for.
I run a 2 cost card deck for Havok that I want to try slotting Agent Venom into. The only non-2 it has is Kitty, so even turning her into a 4 power card would be great. But then things like Havok, Thena and Angela all getting buffs before hand, plus I run Medusa in there, so she'd go from a 7 to a 9 instead. Plus it gives me an excuse to cut Maximus. Also cards like Mojo and Dazzler then become stronger as well.
I think Agent Venom is going to be cracked. He'll be good in Bounce, some Move decks, some Destroy decks, some low curve HAVOC decks(!), etc. And Toxin will make Bounce great because it actually needs a third option. That deck breaks down completely if you don't draw one of your two bounce cards early in the game.
Anti-Venom just needs to be hitting the highest energy card in hand for a reduction of cost (not even necessarily 0) or even specifically one of the highest costs in the deck. It's the same solution as most discard cards to make it targeted.
Ways I’d change anti-venom: - steals the top card of your decks power and cost, making it a 0/0 while adding power to itself - swap the power/cost of an opponents card at this location to this card, adding the new power to this card
Agent Venom is basically the 3rd Venom card in the game (after Venom, Symbiote Spider-Man... and we also get Anti-Venom who's also "Venom"), and the second one after the last season pass... Venom Snap.
Agony being a 2 star overall makes sense since its not going to be used in a lot of decks. But its going to be a staple card in deadpool destroy. It will be a 3/4 star in that deck.
Agony (4/1): On Reveal: Merge this with a random 6-cost card from your deck to copy its text. If it's On Reveal, change it to Activate. Personally think Agony would become more impactful this way
agony's text confusion is just another instance of snap players showing they did not attended some classes in high school... people were confused with "drain" part from cassandra's, confused with arishem's text, and now this i mean, it's not rocket science, you just have to read the card, english is not my first language and even i can read that little text in half a second and understand what it means.....
Heat me out. Misery will be the saviour of Mill by combining it with destroy payoffs. Millsery if you will. Turn 1 - Yondu Turn 2 - ??? Turn 3 - Baron Zemo Turn 4 - Misery Yondu will destroy 2 cards before dying opening space for the second Zemo recruitment. If the first recruit was on reveal you've got up to 5 destruction triggers from this line making your Death cheaper and giving your Knull around 15 power (easily more unless your opponent is running a really low curve), as well as leaving Misery and a 3~4 cost on the field and your opponent is minus 4 cards on the deck. You can run more of the destroy package and clog cards like White Widow and Debris as backup. I can see this deck winning just by being insanely annoying and making the opponent retreat. It folds to Arishem, tho
i think agent venom would work pretty well in a one cost deck, run a nebula, silver sable, kitty pryde etc. kazar is already a 4 power so he wouldnt be affected.
I think Anti Venom belongs to ONGOING deck. Call me crazy but I usually run Howard the duck and Iron Lad in ONGOING deck and add a additional of anti venom can’t hurt. You can a 0 cost iron man, onslaught, spectrum, even Captain America, Speed, Klaw. I just can’t see why this is a bad card.
I think misery could be good with namora depending on how she works: if she destroys opponents junk cards (ie cards without an on reveal necessarily), then she could be buffed by namora, possibly discount a skar. I still am not sold on the card overall though, seems awkward in most scenarios, but I’m curious to see if people figure something out
Something about Misery that you forgot or missed, she is capable of doing work in/against clog decks, clearing your junk while sending over more junk(White Widow/Debrii etc. ; killing Hood and getting another Demon, goblins etc).
Man i wished they change some of the symbiotes to work with destroy deck since Destroy deck is somewhat defined by the Symbiotes (Carnage, Venom, and Literally Knull that feeds with destroyed cards.)
🥷 I can see running Agent Venom in a Patriot deck that typically has low power cards that clone like Mr. Sinister and Brood. Patriot and Mystique also could see the benefits of the buff as well as Blue Marvel and Dazzler. My best Patiot deck runs Ultron, but i think 🐿️ Squirrel Girl or Mystero (buffed) could fill some board space up quite nicely instead. As for Anti-Venom I can see Howard the Duck sleuthing his way into the future, where Professor X, Wong, or Knull catch people off guard at a 0 cost. All in all, it's gonna be an interesting season with some new [activate] surprizes. Are you ready? ✌️😎
WAIT, I just realized… Agent venom in surfer is kinda crazy cause almost every card in surfer decks are 4 or less power. Brood, Sabastian shaw, sera, surfer 😅, forge, nocturne, magik, Wong, Luke cage. Etc. Sadly the card costs money so I can’t even get it 😔
@@Casimenorithe card you mentioned are not that good even in surfer, that's the problem. Like Wong is a bad card, as a player who played a lot of Surfer in the past, there are just too many cards that annihilate you when you play Wong like Arishem playing rogue and enchantress + cannonball+ Cosmo + 6/10 cloud., + Magneto. The only 1 Arishem deck that is very popular have like whole deck countering you, that's insane. Sera is just not that good as Hope Summers, then Magic is bad for Surfer because almost every deck would use the 7th turn way more better than you ever can with Surfer deck, like destroy would play Knull + Arnim Zola and it would be stronger than all you did in this game. And actually if you have 1 more turn the enemy have 1 more turn to find a key card or a counter like cosmo or shadow king. Brood is good,, Nocturna is great, Luke is not great if you don't use Hazmat shell, and Hazmat surfer would lose to Ajax deck in power, just play Ajax if you want Hazmating your opponent all over. If you look at the whole deck you would find that Gwenpool would do so much better . I played Surfer for around 8-9 month at this point so I know that it isn't a card you want in surfer list.
I’m thinking for antivenom maybe ongoing decks considering any ongoing ability is cool and turn 5 is usually kind of weird. I want to play this Ironman but I have these other cards I want to play but I want to stay on curve… it just kinda gives me something else to play on 5 for a nice benefit I guess
I really wanna put agent venom and anti venom in a gadget surfer deck I think that might be fun run like cage. Most cards for free just help the turn 6 combo
We need a 6 drop for move the opponent decks, something like: On-going: This has +3 power for every enemy card that has moved this game Or On reveal: This gets +3 power for evey enemy card thay has moved this game.
I am trying to think how scorn isn't better apocalypse, both are +4 power when discarded and return to hand Yeah the target discard is different For apocalypse you have sif and moon knight For scorn you have samurai and and colleen So yeah scorn just seem better
Agent Venom + Mr. Negative with a bunch of 6 drops is actually cracked. On curve imagine T2 Agent Venom and T4 Mr. Negative, now you have turns 5 and 6 to draw your OP 6 cost cards that now cost 4 and have 6 power. Imagine a 4/6 Dr. Doom. A 4/6 Arnim Zola. A 4/6 Magneto. A 4/6 Odin. A 4/6 Alioth. A 4/6 Leader. The list goes on.
How Agent Venom work with Mysterio? with the way it worded, it sounds like Bast, and knowing how Bast interact with Mysterio (giving all Mysterio 3 power), will it be the same?
Agent Venom is one of those cards that isn't really great in every deck, but it has potential to be scary in some specific scenarios haha just need one person to make a perfect deck around him and start stealing cubes
I played cerebro for a while and the thing that kills it are all the ways your cards can randomly get extra power added, especially by locations, ruining your board for cerebro. That’s not really a thing that can be fixed by adding new cards
I think scorn will bring back the collector discard deck. It will get in the way of Dracula but honestly if you discard this enough times and wiff on the 50/50 Dracula still gets 5-7 power. But having another card that keeps coming back adds like 5-6 on board power on average to that deck which is a lot
Im seeing anti Venom like a magic that does not change locations. My deck works around a specific combo so in theory should be pretty good. Is not so for just a card but rather to save a turn
For agent venom I want to try a deck using the low power destroy idea with Thanos. He always starts in hand so he does not get affected, the drawing power of the stones is good for this kind of deck, the thing that should be tested is how consistent is this, and if this deck can survive without having cheap big power, like death or mockingbird.
Really cool idea actually
What a cook
Add a Phastos and you have a really strong deck
Thanos would work really well with these cards especially most of the venom cards that eat power.
Luke Cage would probably fix any underpowering
I think the best card with Agent Venom might be Mysterio. Becomes a 2/12 spread across all three lanes. Also works in C4 whether its been hit or not.
Don't think this will work since mysterio's base power is already 4. It's just the illusions have 4 less power then him. So, I think that mysterio might not have any impact from Agent venom but I'm not really sure.
@@pestcontrol4346Bast still sets the illusions to 3 so it should still theoretically work
Nobody talkin about misery/thanos/death&killmonger combo where you can draw infinite cards destroyin bad gems on the field and have free death to play basically and a thanos with 4 cost due to reproc of Time Stone. It looks extremely fun to use to me and i will definitely go for it , moreover her week seems pretty strong too with War Machine now being extremely good and Namora.
IMO she is at least 3.5 cards she is basically a discounted oden , you could also put Armor down and then proc her without the cons effect of destroyin.
Strong with junk decks, steal decks and probably also Darkhawk giving ur opponent insane ammount of rocks since she perfectly plays on curve for all of these decks.
@@master9x3r4n_2 wait
.. what? Bast does that?
@@lonesurvivor8828 yeah it's a pretty cool interaction
Toxin + Beast loop is about to be CRAZY
Scorn fits amazingly into gambit exodia XD
Tbh I feel like it fits in pretty much any discard that doesn’t run hela
@@K1ngP1ccol0I'd say it won't fit into all discard decks I feel it scales too slow and too little for that for anything except gambit because gambit uses its return to hand property
@@NoNameOrLifeno it’s not too slow its basically a swarm that doesn’t clog
IT SCALES TOO SLOW???? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU, IT SCALES THE SAME AS APOCALYPSE AND CLEARLY DOESN'T REQUIRE DRACULA TO PLAY HER ALONG WITH SOME OTHER CARDS ON TURN 6 FOR MAX POTENTIA@@NoNameOrLife
@@NoNameOrLife no swarm? What kind of discard deck do you run
Anti Venom is the most skippable card from a low collection level perspective.
I guess with Luke Cage maybe🤷🏿♂️
In your opinion, up to what level do you have a low collection level?
@@noduel I've always considered it as not being pool 3 complete
It'll be great with Cage
Maybe use it with Howard the duck? To know what you're hitting? I honestly don't know
C4 with agent venom sounds cool but agent venom should boost like all the cards in bounce im more interested in what he can do there. Plus toxin is a 2/1 so it probably also slots into that shell nicely
If you have armor at a location with Misery and then you play Odin, isn't that a never ending cicle of on reveal it might break the game 😅
No. I actually have a video where Odin played on Odin. The first Odin would just trigger the first 2 cards on reveal and would ignore second Odin😅
@impkiller5932 That's good 😮💨, If it did work, i fought that they could have made her an activate card to fix the problem
plus wong
You could say the same thing about playing Odin onto Odin, but obviously they accounted for that so it doesn't break the game... 😑
I think that we don’t need to reach for the moon and the stars with Anti-Venom. Any deck that can fit Luke Cage and Shadow King would love to play AV. An affliction deck would love to potentially hit a massive discount on cards like Ajax and Man-Thing, but I also wouldn’t underestimate a smaller discount of say 2 on like a Hazmat that allows you to weave it in with Ajax on the final turn. I think AV has real potential to be one of the strongest cards this season, specifically in any deck that runs Luke Cage and Shadow King, and then maybe a Sersi deck also makes use of AV.
Destroy Destroy Destroy Destroy
Taskmaster, Zola, Knull, Venom
I hope it's good in Destroy.
@@stargazing209 I hope you would always get a 0 power Deadpool
I agree with what you say, but at this point wouldn't it be better for you to use iron lad?
@@Giuspy The benefit of Anti-Venom is that your opponent doesn’t know what you hit compared to Iron Lad, creating more snap leverage. Also, AV is better with higher base stat cards and effects you want to save until the final turn: like Hazmat, Sage, and US Agent. AV is worse than Iron Lad as a final turn play and can’t get you a second copy of an effect.
The new cards this month are very good, but the issue is the rest of the cards in the spotlight caches are not very good except for the misery week. This month is not great unless you have lots of keys to spend unfortunately.
Scorn looks disgustingly broken. Like to the point where I genuinely can’t understand how they think this card isn’t going to be completely overpowered
The old version is even more broken. She gives another card in play the same power as herself. The current one scales the same as Apocalypse. She is better because she is a 1 cost card, thus doesn't rely on Dracula but also more vulnerable to Shadow king and maybe even Shang chi if buffed too much.
I don't think she's overpowered, cuz you need to waste a discard her, if you keed discarding her your apocalypse or swarm will be useless
@@giovannyyyy Modok is all I need to discard all three. Add some silly extra Corvus Glaive, perhaps Wong or Hellcow on turn 4 if I don't intend to play the Dracula - Apocalypse combo. She simply replaced Apocalypse (Because Scorn scales exactly the same as Apocalypse while cost 4 times cheaper than Dracula, you don't even need to play her and half of her scaled power is already on board)
I am so cooked this season
how so?
wdym my dude?
He means he's gonna be spending money
Feel that, they want all your keys/tokens… nah I’m lying they want our MONEY
@@nasirsteed2653that's weakness merged with dumbness
With classic Discard, I find that on turn 6, you're often just playing your top-deck since you just used MODOK. Since Scorn is so cheap, you're very often going to be able to slot her in right alongside that top-deck. Having an extra free 1/6 or 1/8 on top of everything else Discard already has, while ALSO buffing the cards on board, I think is going to be really really solid.
An agony and nemora deck seems like it would go really smooth.
Howard + Luke Cage + Anti-Venom could be something
Had this thought while Regis was talking about Anti-Venom....that card in conversation feels a lot a like Pixie. You can try and use Howard the Duck to target something specific, but it can also just give you a chance to high roll some crazy play.
I think we're overlooking that Agent Venom is also reducing power to 4, allowing high power cards that usually wouldn't fit into a C4 deck, like Onslaught for example.
Maybe the change to Misery was more flavor, we now have Carnage at 2, Venom at 3, and Misery at 4 for destroy symbiotes
can Misery works in viper, destroyer deck that make regis losing his mind
it also destroy destroyer
Anti venom/luke cage deck idea. Turn 3 magic, turn 4 antivenom, turn 5 abs man and 1 drop, turn 6 grandmaster and 4 drop, turn 7 is your 3 zero cost cards, luke cage, and whatever else you have with 4 energy?
Turn 6 your opponent playing storm on Limbo or Legion on any other location, be real
@@impkiller5932or plays Mobius for the fun of it
@@impkiller5932 every deck has counters, what's your point?
@@impkiller5932 this can also be done a turn sooner with psylocke on 2, antivenom 3, and so on.
One question I have for Misery: does the destruction still go off if you somehow get rid of her while the other cards are resolving? Say, you eat Misery with Venom or you use Sersi (yes, I play her and have fun with the card) to turn a 3-cost into Misery which then gives another Sersi proc and turns Misery into a 5-cost.
Depending on the answer, it could open up some play routes for the card that allow you to get your busted On-Reveals without nuking them (or just slap Armor into your deck, I guess)
Agent Venom seems more flexible than it first appears, I can see it working really well with Surfer and Brood, Patriot, Hit-Monkey... Even the one or two extra power in some key areas can make the difference.
Edit: Anti-Venom seems ideal for a deck built around Ajax or Ongoing effects. Spectrum at 0/0 or Ant-Man at 0/0 seem pretty dang good
Agent venom was the only card I wanted from that week 😔 but of course it has to be the Season Pass.
Anti-Venom is so weird. I can kind of see it in an ongoing deck with Howard the Duck as a backup plan for Iron Lad...?
Howard got changed right? It reveals the locations instead of the top deck card
@@KenTheKing69420 No? You must be confusing him for Uatu
@@KenTheKing69420 what you been smoking bro...
If the negative power works with Luke Cage it will be very good
Zola, Taskmaster, Knull, Blob, Iron Man, there's also alot of cards that On-Reveal effect alone is worth playing, i think it's gonna be a really good card.
Basically just an extra win condition in already good decks, i think it's gonna be fun af.
Antivenom I think could live in tribunal happily
I'm so hyped for misery in thanos destroy decks
Anti-Venom suggestion:
5/3: On Reveal: Set the cost and power to 0 of the highest Cost card in your deck and draw it next turn.
It removes the problem of hitting something low and provides ample reason to put it in a ton of decks
My best guess for Anti venom is slotting into a c3 deck, Luke for one save and worst case you have valk for whatever gets set to 0 and then back to 3 in the event you miss Luke.
You can't play anti venom in c3 it has 6 power
@@pretsel5132 going off the shift from call to 3, bad card any way you cut it from what I can see
The first thing I considered for AntiVenom was that they could work well with a powerful On Reveal like White Tiger, for you then to Misery (as the stats getting destroyed don't matter).
I'm sure there has to be potential there, mana/energy reduction to 0 is always scary.
Yeah, White Tiger as a 0/0 is definitely a buff. Iron Man as a 0/0 is also a buff. Will require deck building, not a plug and play
28:55 I like how Regis just solved the whole issue. "Merge into" could be easily the new text for cards like those
Unrelated, but I think there would be a very interesting and valuable place for a “In Hand” card text, abilities that work while you’re holding the card.
I feel there are a lot of interesting things that can be done with it, like buffing cards in your hand, some sort of tech, cost changing, etc… It feels like something especially interesting and intuitive with the marvel snap gameplay loop
Agent venom is like a targeted Phastos for little cards.
Is antivenom gonna make Howard worth it?
Possibly. But was hoping Anti-Venom would do something different. He's one of my favourite Symbiotes ever since Edge of Time (Videogame)
I wonder if they make AntiVenom a 1,2 or 3 card, then Howard would be nice to have.
can Misery works in Viper Destroyer deck
Why run howard when you can play a good card instead?
@@Blazecap run howard to see top deck if it good to play anti venom
Thanks for explaining the Agony text. I was very confused and your argument made sense.
I've seen people mentioning Misery in a Thanos deck and I really like it, you have more space and double the effect from stones
First thing that came to mind with agent venom was hit monkey, marvel boy bounce stuff because often you have hood, kitty, Angela etc and they all benefit from this plus demons stay at 6 since they don’t start in deck
I think scorn is going to be nuts and will make discard meta
Regarding Anti-Venom, is it maybe good enough in a classic Odin/White Tiger deck? Making a synergy piece (like Wong) or any pay off 0 energy seems kind of crazy there.
Agent Venom i think is gonna be amazing in the Tiny Movers deck that CozySnap built or even just make a low power low cost bounce list with Toxin. You make Toxin a 2/4 that's adding 2 power to all your other cards that got set to 4 power and you can have a hand full of demons with various effects
I disagree with Misery being a 2 star, I think she will be really good in electro decks, both for the electro +misery combo, and for the fact that you can use her in a wong on reveal deck so you can send a lot of tigers and ironheart buffs
The only issue with that is you want to save misery for the last turn in those kinds of deck so why not just use odin? Misery on top of iron heart goes off twice with wong then gets destroyed. Wong iron heart odin lets iron heart go off 4 times.
Misery looks really bad, Electro is prob the only card in the game that benefits from both repeating his On-Reveal effect and being destroyed.
And yet there's Wiccan who does the same thing.
Misery + armor = broken
@@scrowll1565armor taking one space, then Wong? Taking one slot if you want to, then tou have only 1 place to play on reveal card to then repeat with Mizery, it is just better to play Wong + Mistique or 2 on reveal cards + Odin.
@@impkiller5932 But Odin costs a lot of energy, if you want you can use Sera + misery and armor, the point of using armor + misery is because misery is a cheaper Odin
Agony should a 100% be an activate, otherwise it can be clunky and too depending on good draws
Imagine agony, then shuri then symbiotic Spider-Man, then hulk buster so you get like a 20 power Spider-Man then merge with a galtacus
That make it less fun arana
Does Misery destroy all cards at the location or just the ones with On Reveal she repeats?
I have a Wiggan deck that is built around playing 4-cost cards. I would be interested to see how Anti-Venom slots in.
I already have a C4 deck I've been playing for months. I'll only have to adjust it a little to bring Agent Venom into the fold. I'm stoked.
I also have a deck of nothing but 1-3 costs that Agent will be just perfect for.
I’ve actually been doing pretty well with a Cerebro 3 deck. Cosmo and Valkyrie put in WORK.
I run a 2 cost card deck for Havok that I want to try slotting Agent Venom into. The only non-2 it has is Kitty, so even turning her into a 4 power card would be great. But then things like Havok, Thena and Angela all getting buffs before hand, plus I run Medusa in there, so she'd go from a 7 to a 9 instead. Plus it gives me an excuse to cut Maximus. Also cards like Mojo and Dazzler then become stronger as well.
I think Agent Venom is going to be cracked. He'll be good in Bounce, some Move decks, some Destroy decks, some low curve HAVOC decks(!), etc. And Toxin will make Bounce great because it actually needs a third option. That deck breaks down completely if you don't draw one of your two bounce cards early in the game.
Think it's by chance Agent Venom ends up in a deck that's very much leaning towards being called C4?
Agent Venom best card for Deadpool 👍
Thinking Move Destroy decks could get more interesting.. Agony, Agent Venom, Arana, Deadpool, Toxin, Human Torch, Phoenix, Carnage, Venom, Fist, Dagger,
Anti-Venom seems perfectly fit for a Knull/Zola destroy decklist. But I have to try him myself
Personally idc what card is in the season pass the amount of value it gives is unbeatable
I feel like Agent Venom and Toxin could have some good synergy in small ball bounce decks that play a lot of scalers.
Anti-Venom just needs to be hitting the highest energy card in hand for a reduction of cost (not even necessarily 0) or even specifically one of the highest costs in the deck. It's the same solution as most discard cards to make it targeted.
Ways I’d change anti-venom:
- steals the top card of your decks power and cost, making it a 0/0 while adding power to itself
- swap the power/cost of an opponents card at this location to this card, adding the new power to this card
Turn 1 : silver sable o the Hood o iceman
Turn 2: White widow o psylock
Turn 3: shanna
Turn 4 : toxin on shanna camp
Turn 5 : Beast or hobgoblin
Turn 6 : shanna / cosmo/shang chi/alioth
Work??
Agony could also be cool with Brood and Mister Sinister, because I'm pretty sure it will add the power then multiply.
Agent Venom is basically the 3rd Venom card in the game (after Venom, Symbiote Spider-Man... and we also get Anti-Venom who's also "Venom"), and the second one after the last season pass... Venom Snap.
Agony being a 2 star overall makes sense since its not going to be used in a lot of decks. But its going to be a staple card in deadpool destroy. It will be a 3/4 star in that deck.
Agony (4/1): On Reveal: Merge this with a random 6-cost card from your deck to copy its text. If it's On Reveal, change it to Activate.
Personally think Agony would become more impactful this way
agony's text confusion is just another instance of snap players showing they did not attended some classes in high school...
people were confused with "drain" part from cassandra's, confused with arishem's text, and now this
i mean, it's not rocket science, you just have to read the card, english is not my first language and even i can read that little text in half a second and understand what it means.....
why does agent venom look exaclt like crossbones?
it bothers me so much lol
Heat me out. Misery will be the saviour of Mill by combining it with destroy payoffs. Millsery if you will.
Turn 1 - Yondu
Turn 2 - ???
Turn 3 - Baron Zemo
Turn 4 - Misery
Yondu will destroy 2 cards before dying opening space for the second Zemo recruitment. If the first recruit was on reveal you've got up to 5 destruction triggers from this line making your Death cheaper and giving your Knull around 15 power (easily more unless your opponent is running a really low curve), as well as leaving Misery and a 3~4 cost on the field and your opponent is minus 4 cards on the deck. You can run more of the destroy package and clog cards like White Widow and Debris as backup.
I can see this deck winning just by being insanely annoying and making the opponent retreat. It folds to Arishem, tho
agent venom with venom can be nuts. not because you're making venom bigger but because you're making venom's food bigger.
Just had a match that cloned my Wong, used 2 Wong's played Mystique and then Gambit HAHAHA. TY for that!.
Anti-Venom is for sure getting buffed like 1 week after its out from caches
i think agent venom would work pretty well in a one cost deck, run a nebula, silver sable, kitty pryde etc. kazar is already a 4 power so he wouldnt be affected.
I can see Anti-venom in a Tribunal-onslaught deck... Would be nice to hit a ironman, mystique or maybe even onslaught himself
I think Anti Venom belongs to ONGOING deck. Call me crazy but I usually run Howard the duck and Iron Lad in ONGOING deck and add a additional of anti venom can’t hurt. You can a 0 cost iron man, onslaught, spectrum, even Captain America, Speed, Klaw. I just can’t see why this is a bad card.
I think misery could be good with namora depending on how she works: if she destroys opponents junk cards (ie cards without an on reveal necessarily), then she could be buffed by namora, possibly discount a skar. I still am not sold on the card overall though, seems awkward in most scenarios, but I’m curious to see if people figure something out
toxin and anti venom seem like they are going too be my pickups of the month
Couldn’t you use Anti-Venom with cards that are *already* 0 power? Just drop 0 cost Iron Man and Mystique?
Then just play negative
Something about Misery that you forgot or missed, she is capable of doing work in/against clog decks, clearing your junk while sending over more junk(White Widow/Debrii etc. ; killing Hood and getting another Demon, goblins etc).
Misery only kill on reveal cards, so only gonna work with goblins/acid arrow
Man i wished they change some of the symbiotes to work with destroy deck since Destroy deck is somewhat defined by the Symbiotes (Carnage, Venom, and Literally Knull that feeds with destroyed cards.)
Agent venom may be what puts leader back on the map.
Agent venom would be a solid hit to Brood in surfer. Gives surfer a nice little boost overall unless you hit Gladiator.
🥷 I can see running Agent Venom in a Patriot deck that typically has low power cards that clone like Mr. Sinister and Brood. Patriot and Mystique also could see the benefits of the buff as well as Blue Marvel and Dazzler. My best Patiot deck runs Ultron, but i think 🐿️ Squirrel Girl or Mystero (buffed) could fill some board space up quite nicely instead.
As for Anti-Venom I can see Howard the Duck sleuthing his way into the future, where Professor X, Wong, or Knull catch people off guard at a 0 cost. All in all, it's gonna be an interesting season with some new [activate] surprizes. Are you ready? ✌️😎
WAIT, I just realized… Agent venom in surfer is kinda crazy cause almost every card in surfer decks are 4 or less power.
Brood, Sabastian shaw, sera, surfer 😅, forge, nocturne, magik, Wong, Luke cage. Etc.
Sadly the card costs money so I can’t even get it 😔
It would buff only Brood. It doesn't work if Brood in hand or on board, so I think it is bad card to surfer deck.
Brood and wong are 2 power.
@@impkiller5932 it also buffs the buncha other stuff I said. And you can add forge to buff somthing that’s already in ur hand 🤷♂️.
@@Minious1020 yes 🥂
@@Casimenorithe card you mentioned are not that good even in surfer, that's the problem. Like Wong is a bad card, as a player who played a lot of Surfer in the past, there are just too many cards that annihilate you when you play Wong like Arishem playing rogue and enchantress + cannonball+ Cosmo + 6/10 cloud., + Magneto. The only 1 Arishem deck that is very popular have like whole deck countering you, that's insane. Sera is just not that good as Hope Summers, then Magic is bad for Surfer because almost every deck would use the 7th turn way more better than you ever can with Surfer deck, like destroy would play Knull + Arnim Zola and it would be stronger than all you did in this game. And actually if you have 1 more turn the enemy have 1 more turn to find a key card or a counter like cosmo or shadow king. Brood is good,, Nocturna is great, Luke is not great if you don't use Hazmat shell, and Hazmat surfer would lose to Ajax deck in power, just play Ajax if you want Hazmating your opponent all over. If you look at the whole deck you would find that Gwenpool would do so much better . I played Surfer for around 8-9 month at this point so I know that it isn't a card you want in surfer list.
I am very curious to see what happens if you play Hulkbuster into Agony
I’m thinking for antivenom maybe ongoing decks considering any ongoing ability is cool and turn 5 is usually kind of weird. I want to play this Ironman but I have these other cards I want to play but I want to stay on curve… it just kinda gives me something else to play on 5 for a nice benefit I guess
I really wanna put agent venom and anti venom in a gadget surfer deck I think that might be fun run like cage. Most cards for free just help the turn 6 combo
We need a 6 drop for move the opponent decks, something like:
On-going: This has +3 power for every enemy card that has moved this game
Or
On reveal: This gets +3 power for evey enemy card thay has moved this game.
Agony in surfer with brood and shaw benefitting would be nice
Misery in Darkhawk. Korg + rockslide/black widow. Then darkhawk and mystique. Could also put a Hood in there.
Im hoping agony isn’t just a hulk buster but the other thing, though it still would be good as one
I am trying to think how scorn isn't better apocalypse, both are +4 power when discarded and return to hand
Yeah the target discard is different
For apocalypse you have sif and moon knight
For scorn you have samurai and and colleen
So yeah scorn just seem better
Or good with dracula too. Cause then drac has the pssibility of hitting 2 very good cards.
Most of the time you don't have apocalypse in your hand, she is a good replace for that
New Sword Master will be good with Scorn as well
It's probably better to play both. They both fit in the same deck.
How about Misery in a mill or darkhawk deck? Yondu, master mold, iceman or korg/rockslide
But does Agony activate before Galactus, or is it after the cards finished resolving?
I’m excited for toxin to replace falcon. I have a On reveal bounce deck with venom or black panther into Arnim Zola
Agent Venom + Mr. Negative with a bunch of 6 drops is actually cracked.
On curve imagine T2 Agent Venom and T4 Mr. Negative, now you have turns 5 and 6 to draw your OP 6 cost cards that now cost 4 and have 6 power.
Imagine a 4/6 Dr. Doom. A 4/6 Arnim Zola. A 4/6 Magneto. A 4/6 Odin. A 4/6 Alioth. A 4/6 Leader. The list goes on.
Toxin as an Activate would be amazing
What if you play Agony and then Hulk Buster, who merges with who
Hulkbuster merge with agony, and agony stay on he field buffed wait for a card
Agent venom is an ok card.
He gets potential with move deck, destroy deck, Thena, bishop, etc
Not a must card but he can be flexible card
How Agent Venom work with Mysterio? with the way it worded, it sounds like Bast, and knowing how Bast interact with Mysterio (giving all Mysterio 3 power), will it be the same?
Misery won’t work in full Wong Odin fashion because the second Misery will have nothing to trigger on.
Agent Venom is one of those cards that isn't really great in every deck, but it has potential to be scary in some specific scenarios haha just need one person to make a perfect deck around him and start stealing cubes
Falcon is not getting cut. Toxin fits perfectly into Wiccan bounce in place of Kate Bishop.
I played cerebro for a while and the thing that kills it are all the ways your cards can randomly get extra power added, especially by locations, ruining your board for cerebro.
That’s not really a thing that can be fixed by adding new cards
Thena with agent venom is gonna be a solid place
I think scorn will bring back the collector discard deck. It will get in the way of Dracula but honestly if you discard this enough times and wiff on the 50/50 Dracula still gets 5-7 power. But having another card that keeps coming back adds like 5-6 on board power on average to that deck which is a lot
Luckily it's 1 cost so you can play it with Modok on T6.
Agent venom is gunna be my favorite card ever
Im seeing anti Venom like a magic that does not change locations. My deck works around a specific combo so in theory should be pretty good. Is not so for just a card but rather to save a turn
Misery might be good with stuff like psylocke, white widow, forge, Nico, ice man, mirage. Idk, I think she has potential.