Yugioh Player Guesses If A Classic HS Card is Banned w/ Cimo
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I'm so getting you back for this video, I don't know why this was so hard 🤣🤣🤣
A card that was harmless until a deck is released by the devs seemingly custom-made to abuse it...oh, you mean Smoke Grenade of the Thief and Infernoble Knights!
Give him more options like "Limited" and "Semi-Limited"
Now it's a REAL multiple choice question 😂
Well nurf and ban is basically the same in a way, it just comes down to how Blizard wants to reduce power level in what way.
Rarran, CBG, and Cimo, the trifecta of the TCG Multiverse, grinding out content to bring peace and unity to nerds everywhere
On Vanish, I think the card you weren't remembering would be Giant Trunade. Granted it's not monsters, but it's the same concept of just "everything is gone"
The thing Cimoo missed about vanish is that since you have a max hand size in hearthstone, any extra minions this couldn’t fit in your hand we’re just destroyed, so it often did a lot more than just bounce stuff
That makes more sense, I remember this interaction being mentioned somewhere in the cardgame multiverse but I'd never thought of it being relevant since I don't play enough of the game. Because in other card games usually hand size limits are only checked at the end of your turn
They also lose their top card when trying to draw after that.
The TCGCU is my favorite new thing on RUclips. I hope it lasts forever.
None of these cards were buffed, shows acolyte of pain.
ikr its a 1/4 now
I'd argue water elemental getting the "elemental" tag is a buff as well.
43:50 "Earliest you can play this with the coin is turn 3" Rarran falling for the coin Mountain Giant trap confirmed
He meant starting with coin in hand since you will have more cards. You cant put the giant down at turn 3 if you are first.
@Run2Seeun if you are going second, and play no cards, the mountain giant will cost 4 on the 3rd turn. When you play the coin, the cost will go up to 5.
@@mawillix2018Handlock will tap at turn 2 and if they're going second they can put it down at 3
48:08 ackshually, xavius summons demons instead of elementals, which is way worse if you are playing something like the bloodreaver guldan which is an example of them making "a guldan card". I think it follows the spirit of the rule though.
Also you can craft xavius, but you could only craft illidan when classic was around.
One important thing for Illidan and Xavius is that they changed the wording from "whenever" to "after"
Illidan was the only card in the game that summoned other minions "whenever" a card is played and that created a lot of weird interactions, like making it possible to turn your opponent into jaraxxus and other wacky stuff
How did that happen ?
17:04 At 2 mana I'd be happy still, even now, silence is most valueable in negating deathrattles effect but the body still is in play, so a 3-mana 3/4 with deathrattle, give a randomly friendly minion +3 health, or that it summons two 1/1 tokens, silencing it for 2 mana is ''tempo'' gain cause you don't deal with the effect when it dies and for control decks, it can be used to negate a few bombs, like Tiridon Fording.
But generally, bomb minions in HS have massive battlecry effect rather than persisent or deathrattle effect.
It wasnt mentioned in the showing and Cimo talked about the card like he didnt know: Vanish effect is worst than Yugioh and Magic because any card over max hand size is burned, so that meant you may return everything, destroy half board, burn their next draw and have to play and pay for cards out of tempo
Something that always adds up to these for me is Rarran trying not to laugh when the guest says something that's exactly the truth
Honestly surprising they yeeted Illidan as the card for DH, but got DK and the Lich King as the card, which are both the Arthas Lich King version.
But the lich king is an expansion card, whichis less confusing to have than a classic card that was always there before core set got introduced
47:00 The "The Lich King" card still exists though haha.
New idea is to take these common players and have them play Powerful Decks against each other without telling them what is in each deck
That’s a great idea.
lowkey had a split second where I believed the rarran icon at the bottom right of the screen was a tattoo on cimo's arm for some godforsaken reason lol
Extremely disappointed that thumbnail is NOT in fact cimos face photoshopped in to water elemental 😂
Next time you have cimooo or CGB on you should trick them with The OG succubus card that got removed for too much booba
The Lich King is still a card after becoming the Death Knight base hero, but then again there's been a couple "Lich Kings" so that makes sense.
Hearing Rarran reading the verbatim justifications for Blizzard's nerfs and bans then looking at modern Hearthstone... we've come a long way to them just not giving a shit
3:53 s/o for the Wolf of Wallstreet reference
I really wish that you'd shown Cimo Shard of The Naaru immediately after talking about Ironbeak owl
MORE, MOOOOOOORE!
The Rarran Expanded Universe is reaching stage 5
44:00 rarran please share your secrets on how to coin mountain giant
He was saying you could play this on turn 3 with coin (in hand), which is only true if you're an even deck, but it's closer to being true than coining it out at least.
@@vharmi. no its totally right without even start with 5 cards (7 mana) turn 1 draw 1 (cost 6) ass turn 2 draw 1 (cost 5) tap 1 ( cost 4) pass turn 3 draw 1 then you have 9 cards in hand making mountain giant 3 mana on turn 3
@@stefanbroers8146 How do you plan to draw a card on turn 1 without using a card from your hand or having your heropower cost 1?
Also, Mountain Giant is discounted by every OTHER card in your hand. If you have 9 cards in hand that's 12-8=4 mana. I played handlock back in the day. Mountain giant always came out on turn 4 no matter if you went first or second.
Woulda been here earlier but was watching Rarran
39:52 - this guy just cooked
We need part 2 of only single TCG shop
I mean Cimo mentioned that he played classic cards as well as later expansions, most of this he knows which is evident as well in his CGB videos
right but I think this is slightly different than asking if a card was good in classic
It is @@Rarran
@17:00 I think Ironbeak Owl being a 3 mana 2/1 was an offense reportable to DEHTA.
Like okay, don't want Silence attached to too cheap a cost. It doesn't mean you need to make the stats for cost suck that much.
I had no problem with Silence, it punished greedy deckbuilding where decks would forego stats entirely for effects.
I think Illidan actually got buffed when he was changed into Xavius. The Flames of Azzinoth weren't demons but the Satyrs are
Cimo has awesome analysis. Really cool to hear :)
Illidan got straight replaced with Xavius - I had an Illidan in my collection and it automatically became Xavius when Demon Hunter released.
I feel like the most common state of rogue is completely unplayable or unbelievably toxic, still my favorite class
Cimo looks like Cirno and I thought for a long time he was just a very big touhou fan
I think character cards would be fine. They eventually did it in Shadowverse, with the character cards having effects which reinforce the core playstyles the class had.
Also DKs did it too.
And The Lich King had the benefit of existing as both.
Illidan and Xavius are NOT actually the same card. One has the "Whenever" word whereas the other one has "After". This is really important because it determines the order of the interaction.
I love Cimoo being so used to the abuse of Konami that even the idea of a card game being designed around fun is eye-roll worthy
Rogues aren’t allowed to have fun. They need to play an insanely gimmick deck that is super hard to make it work just be b tier deck
For cards like leper gnome and flametongue I can't even remember if the nerfs were really necessary.
WOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH! 2/3 of my favorite card card game triumvirate assembled. LETS GO!
acolyte of pain actually got buffed somewhat recently to a 1/4 so there was a card on your list that got buffed
Even back in the day I understood the leper nerf, but didn’t agree with it, there were far worse problems imo lmao
Personally, I liked owl at 2 mana, I usually enjoy games where answers are stronger and I don't think silence is unacceptable at that price point
Old ppl like me having ptsd of shadowstep and "truth is found in death" card
Prince Keleseth was horrible. Sometimes they had 2 shadowsteps in their hand and the game was over at turn 2.
Once that owl nerf came down I remember thinking "I can get a 2/1 silence for 3 or a 4/3 silence for 4" and looking at that card... what was it called?
Spellbreaker
Wasn't prep reduce by 3 mana when Vanish was in classic?
Keeper of the grove… havent heard that name in a while
No one has ever played nerfed leper gnome
it's kinda funny how cimooooo could've easily called out owl as nerfed on frame 1 entirely because that shit looks _so_ fuckin' bootleg
like as a fellow ygo player i get why that didn't tip him off because of the not insignificant amount of time spent looking at ancient prints of cards in that game, but hearthstone's digital so broad style updates would apply retroactively and a crusty-ass card is a _major_ sign that the most recent screencap of that shit was taken shortly after the game hit 1.0
You missed one of cimo's o's for the @, Mr.Ramranch
I love cimo, he is cool.
Coool more content
Illidan was my first legendary they banned my baby 😢
Is there a Reason he didnt say Prep reduced a Spell by (3)?
I love Cimo
Sea giant wasn't even that great. If the opponent had a full board, you could play a 3 mana 8/8 ... and then immediately lose next turn because the opponent has a full board and can just ignore your 8/8 and go face. If you had 6 minions, you could play a 4 mana 8/8 and make the opponent concede, but if you had 6 minions you had probably already won the game anyway at that point, and the sea giant is just a win more. In between that, well since you are presumeably playing a board-centric deck playing lots of minions, your opponent is making sure to clear your minions and trading theirs in to yours, so there are not many minions on either side of the board and you sea giant is at best 6 mana or so, which is not that good. It's main problem is that it's just a win-more card; and if you're not winning then it's not going to help you reverse that.
Overall fairly average which only showed up occasionally in incredibly niche metagames.Not at all a problem card that Cimo was describing
love you Rarran
No rarran... If you owned illidan from classic it just got replaced by Xavius in your collection
Sea Giant is so mean.
not shadow step : (
Dope
The circlejerk around shadowstep is always so strange
Did we forget that the card was basically never played after leeroy went to 5 mana up until caverns below got added to the game?
Rarran you are wrong about Fiery War Axe not being played at 3 mana... It was still being played in quite a lot of decks that did not care that it costs 3 mana until it was power crept years later.
26s after release and 0 views... Rarran fell off
Just shows that “Hall of Fame” is better SEO than “banned” smh
Recycled joke used on every video for every creator ever 🚮
Whos Rarran
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So original