To all those wondering about the bad crimping within the wiring loom receptacle, I've repaired multiple camera malfunctions like this one by simply soldering the crimped cable and the shielding together even with the chasis of the connector. This requires a powerfull soldering iron as you need to do this quickly without any heat-induced damage the other wires and the connector body. But in my Mondeo as well as several other cars this was exactly the point of failure. Usually the camera itself works even if there is a lot more damage and condensation than the one shown in the video...
I had a failure of "crimped" connections like that make my tail lights stop working once. I didn't know I had a problem until a police officer called it to my attention... :-) This amount of stuff to deal with that problem is a perfect illustration of why I don't like to work on cars much, any more.
+FZet How did you clean the contacts and with what did you use? So have you had any more issues with the camera since you cleaned the contacts...any signs of the old problem creeping back???
Wow, quite a PITA that they went and changed the connector like that. Oh, you wanted your replacement camera to connect back to the system again? New harness too!
***** I did think WTF when they said it needed a new wiring harness. The old style camera is not available now, so unless you find one on ebay or some older stock somewhere you have to do the full replacement.
Hello Steve. Great video. Apologies this is so late. As the prices on these have gone up like crazy do you think it's possible to cut off the connectors and got new ones of a different design? Cheers
Hi Steve, I have the exact same fault, I'm certainly not going to pay the £400 that ford now want for the part. I'm going to dismantle mine at the weekend and have a look (Ford S-Max 2014) hopefully I can identify a problem at the plug. Do you know if its possible to replace the camera with an aftermarket camera and get it to work with the OEM park assist system?
Hi all, I have had a Pioneer SPH-DA230DAB head unit with a 7" touchscreen display installed in my 2013 Mondeo Titanium X. I also had a reversing camera installed and it works great. The only issue is that my parking sensors which used to BEEP in a different tone front and rear, no longer make any beeping sounds. Everything else works, including steering wheel controls, but just no beeps. My installer said that I had to lose the beeps as they came from the old stereo which was removed. Does anyone know if there is a component I can purchase that will likely reinstate the old parking sensor beeps also, whilst the vehicle is in reverse?
Hi Steve, thanks for the video. I'm just wondering if you have come across a case that both reversing lights are not working on a Mondeo MK4. However the parking sensors and reversing camera are still working as normal. I've done some researches which suggest there is no separate fuse on MK4 for reversing light, given the sensors and camera are working, almost certain the reversing light switch is also working fine? Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks!
Hi there. My camera stop working without any flickering. İ read on diagnostic fault U200D :11-28 on CMR(Camera module rear) . Would you help me about it. What kind of faults is that and is it possible to fix it or i have to buy new module? Thank you.
Hi Steve, can I ask you if you don’t mind? The radio in this clip is the same as the one in my car , unfortunately iv just had the battery change & Iv lost the code??? So looking on the Internet there quite a few models of this type can you tell me is it a ? Travel Pilot FX ? Travel pilot NX ? Travel pilot FX LSRNE ? Travel pilot FX HSRNS ? It’s so I can find the correct serial numbers as there all different formats. Rally appreciate it if you can help. Many Thanks Mick M.
Great video. Many thanks!!!! I have the flickering. I also have a very blurry image. Is this normal with this generation Ford camera. How sharp was the image with the new camera?
It should be pretty clear. Not as sharp as you'd expect with today's technology but easily good enough to recognise everything in view. Check my newer video on this though as there may be another reason for the flickering.
great video . i have a 2012 mondeo titanium head unit has the silver ring on it but camera is not installed on the car .is there a reversing camera that can be fitter to the head unit
If you can get hold of the camera and control box, you can install the OEM module without needing to do anything other than plug it in. The head unit has a FAKRA connector on the back which is a composite video input. So any camera can be used to feed into this - it just won't have the lines on the image. Something like this would work: www.banggood.com/custlink/mmmmPj1yDM if you can find a long enough cable and adaptor for the head unit. Connect power to the reversing lights.
@@sdgelectronics thank you for the reply . So if I understand you properly I can just get the camera in the link and install it without the oem module and it should work
Hi Steve, I have just fitted a new camera and wiring loom as per your video all went well, when i go into reverse it takes a good 5 mins before it comes onto the screen . i did not get a message saying new camera detected, should i disconnect the battery to reset the system thanks malc
hi i watched your video but my problem is a little different the camera works but it doesn't show me the warning lines and my parking sensors don't work! what could it be thank you very much
Good morning and thank you for your quick reply! on diagnostics it says a problem in the camera, I replaced it with another one but it is second hand, it is highly likely that it is not correct, sometimes when the lines come out the sensors also worked, but lately there are no lines and the parking sensors are not working, what does that parking module look like?? where is it? my car is ford mondeo 2012 station wagon
@@bubo45ful the PDM controls parking sensors independently of the camera module, so if the sensors aren't working you should concentrate on that first. The camera module gets info from the steering angle sensor module and parking distance module before it displays the lines. Look on eBay for the PDM to see how it looks
No switching over at all on mine when you select reverse , have checked grey plug , that looks ok and has grease in it ... other end is plugged to box ... as said , No switching over on screen at all .. it's as if I don't have one .. does the head unit need to come out to check ? Where or what type of switch is it to engage when put into reverse ??? I've checked to see if there's a micro switch on gear linking but nothing under lever ... where can I check .. as said , I'm getting no engaging what so ever !
Hi Steve, I have the original factory camera and need to change the wiring loom as per your video. When I called FordUkParts they advised that there is a new wire version (like yours). Question is will the new wire connect to the old factory fitted camera or is it a different connector? Thanks.
Hiya mate, got a 2011 Money, reversing camera gives no image whatsoever. Have made and connected a new earth strap to the control module, and checked for water ingress in the camera connection...no liquid or signs of oxidisation. Could I pick your brains as to what you reckon the next step should be please? Ta muchly :)
It depends a little on what equipment or expertise you have. Next step would probably be to lift out the head unit and check the cable is correctly inserted. If you have a FAKRA cable adaptor, you could test the input on the headunit also. If it's all OK, you need to check the camera controller is getting power on the green connector.
Hi SDG we have a ford smax 2.2 titanium x , the camera started flickering and now the fault is solid. nothing when we put the car into reverse , it just stays on the radio, should the screen go blank in reverse please , I have the car in bits at the moment . the fact that it started flickering makes me think that i can fix this myself ...hopefully .. appreciate your help thx
@@sdgelectronics Thanks for the reply.. i have worked in electronics and computers for many years but cannot see anything obvious.. i have sprayed / cleaned the connectors .. .. i will have a look at your other video thank you.. do you think its more likely to be a the boot end rather than the audio system input .. tbanks for your help!
If I put the smax in reverse i should see a change in voltage at the first connector? would you suspect that as it started flickering green and then failed that it is most probably just a break in the cable/bad earth somewhere - can u please send me th link from your other video . Thanks very much for your help !
Hi Steve you posted this video couple years ago so how has this new camera been working...any signs of the old problem creeping back??? I've had this exact same issue with my reversing camera (2011 S-Max 2.2 Titanium X Sport) from the very first day I brought the car! I've been putting up with this problem for the past few years and it absolutely drives me crazy at times as it seem to work perfectly fine when I don't need to use it but on few occasions where I could do with it working...those are the times it never does!!!
+SDG Electronics : D'OH......thanks, I didn't max the comment selection before I asked the question. My camera had moisture ingress with water condensation on the inside of the dome. I removed the camera and separated the dome housing from the camera housing by opening the three screws. I'm dried it out over night and I'm putting it back in today. But I noticed that looking through the dome the optical quality is pretty crap. In summary these are not great cameras! But for later models ford have Valeo cameras (ones without the dome), way better!
Robert Calk Jr. Stock is 200hp for the diesel model and 240hp for the petrol model. I have the diesel tuned to 245hp, but this car is purely for commuting to work so economy is important. I use one of the other petrol cars for short trips.
SDG Electronics Cool. I like diesels. I guess fords have different model names in your country than in the USA. Does the name, "Mondeo", have some significance to your country?
Robert Calk Jr. No significance as far as I know. Your Ford Fusion is now our newer model Mondeo. My sport model is the previous generation built in Germany.
Hi Steve , I see this is quite old now , but now have a fault with this car ..my headunit does not engage at all when reverse selected ... not worked when I got the car ... see this vid and checked for moisture in plug but clean ... So connection plug is dry and good but nothing working .. Now have the new revised equipment bought ..plugged into module and still nothing ... is there a switch unit from gearbox When reverse is selected would anyone know ... parking sensors are working when reverse selected ..I was on the understanding cam is triggered with pdc 🤔 now booked with dealer for diagnostic £85.00 . I just don’t understand why headunit doesn’t switch to camera ...
Hi Rob, It could be a fault or bad connection with the unit in the rear of the car that the wiring loom plugs into, otherwise there is a video connector at the back of the headunit which could have worked loose. If the lead is not inserted into the headunit, it won't switch over to video even if reverse is selected. If you want to fiddle, I'd disconnect the battery and re-seat all of the connections.
Head unit removed , 3 plugs on back , one of which I’m guessing is for cam ..but locked in ok .. so all ok there ..still nothing .. I’m now thinking the module is at fault..or calibration software has been lost somehow 🤔
Hi steve , as in last post .. was the module at fault .. replacement fitted ..done exactly the same as yours in vid ... it had to re config then all good ... my original cam and loom is probably good after all that but not tried it As may have caused old module to fail .. cheers for vid as cam and loom replacement was straight forward seeing this ... same as with the nylon nut and bolts as rivets wouldn’t hold after drilling old ones out ..hole in panel was bigger ! So nylon fasteners with a little glue just incase ... just wondering if it’s worth getting the module looked at to see if it can be repaired Thanks again Rob
Hi SDG Electronics, where in the country are you? You seem to know what you're doing, I have the same problem with my camera on my S-Max and I thought maybe I can pay you to fit my camera for me.
Pity that you fast-forwarded or spared the parts where you dismount all the plastic stuff from the trunk, as well as the actual camera replacing action. That would have been the help in detail I was looking for. Where I would have to losen which screw, pull where, wehre are latches and all that stuff....
***** A much needed saving, it's going in tomorrow for a replacement rear main oil seal which is a job I cannot do myself. £30 oil seal, £600 labour... :( Slightly disappointed it's started to fail as I baby this car and is very unusual for it to happen so early. 2 months outside of the warranty.
SDG Electronics Yea £600 quid is a lot considering the cost of the seal.. Plus the fact that the seal itself only takes 5 minutes to fit :o .. You certainly get your moneys worth though as getting the gearbox out is quite a job. Well.. Not the g'box itself, but all the stuff that's attached to it. Bit of advice Steve... IF the clutch has not already been replaced, you might like to get the clutch checked/replaced whilst the engine/g'box are split, as it's the same job to do a clutch! The reason it's advisable to replace the clutch kit at the same time is because not only might the clutch be contaminated (with oil particles etc) but it's just not worth the hassle (and cost) of having a clutch issue show up once everything is put back together. As it would cost another £600 for that same job again. Anyway.. Hope all goes well with it.
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To all those wondering about the bad crimping within the wiring loom receptacle, I've repaired multiple camera malfunctions like this one by simply soldering the crimped cable and the shielding together even with the chasis of the connector. This requires a powerfull soldering iron as you need to do this quickly without any heat-induced damage the other wires and the connector body. But in my Mondeo as well as several other cars this was exactly the point of failure. Usually the camera itself works even if there is a lot more damage and condensation than the one shown in the video...
Thanks for the video. I need the little bubble that covers the camera as mine has cracked, any idea where I can get one from? Thanks
I had a failure of "crimped" connections like that make my tail lights stop working once. I didn't know I had a problem until a police officer called it to my attention... :-) This amount of stuff to deal with that problem is a perfect illustration of why I don't like to work on cars much, any more.
Thanks for your video. I personally did not replace the camera. In my case I cleaned the contacts and it worked fine.
Cheers
+FZet How did you clean the contacts and with what did you use? So have you had any more issues with the camera since you cleaned the contacts...any signs of the old problem creeping back???
Great video! Thanks for that! I'm going to fix my camera soon (same problems with screen flickering) and your video will be very handy :) Cheers!
Hi there, great video....however where abouts did you get the kit from??
Wow, quite a PITA that they went and changed the connector like that.
Oh, you wanted your replacement camera to connect back to the system again? New harness too!
***** I did think WTF when they said it needed a new wiring harness. The old style camera is not available now, so unless you find one on ebay or some older stock somewhere you have to do the full replacement.
Hello Steve. Great video. Apologies this is so late. As the prices on these have gone up like crazy do you think it's possible to cut off the connectors and got new ones of a different design? Cheers
Hi Steve, I have the exact same fault, I'm certainly not going to pay the £400 that ford now want for the part. I'm going to dismantle mine at the weekend and have a look (Ford S-Max 2014) hopefully I can identify a problem at the plug. Do you know if its possible to replace the camera with an aftermarket camera and get it to work with the OEM park assist system?
Hi all, I have had a Pioneer SPH-DA230DAB head unit with a 7" touchscreen display installed in my 2013 Mondeo Titanium X. I also had a reversing camera installed and it works great. The only issue is that my parking sensors which used to BEEP in a different tone front and rear, no longer make any beeping sounds. Everything else works, including steering wheel controls, but just no beeps. My installer said that I had to lose the beeps as they came from the old stereo which was removed. Does anyone know if there is a component I can purchase that will likely reinstate the old parking sensor beeps also, whilst the vehicle is in reverse?
Hi Steve, thanks for the video. I'm just wondering if you have come across a case that both reversing lights are not working on a Mondeo MK4. However the parking sensors and reversing camera are still working as normal. I've done some researches which suggest there is no separate fuse on MK4 for reversing light, given the sensors and camera are working, almost certain the reversing light switch is also working fine? Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks!
Hi Easonyyc, Could you let me know what this problem was as I have the same problem?
Hi there. My camera stop working without any flickering. İ read on diagnostic fault U200D :11-28 on CMR(Camera module rear) . Would you help me about it. What kind of faults is that and is it possible to fix it or i have to buy new module? Thank you.
Hy. Can you mount a reverse camera on a car that had no reverse camere on it from the factory? Thx
Hi Steve, can I ask you if you don’t mind? The radio in this clip is the same as the one in my car , unfortunately iv just had the battery change & Iv lost the code??? So looking on the Internet there quite a few models of this type can you tell me is it a ?
Travel Pilot FX ?
Travel pilot NX ?
Travel pilot FX LSRNE ?
Travel pilot FX HSRNS ?
It’s so I can find the correct serial numbers as there all different formats.
Rally appreciate it if you can help. Many Thanks
Mick M.
It's the Ford NX MCA navigation system.
Great video. Many thanks!!!! I have the flickering. I also have a very blurry image. Is this normal with this generation Ford camera. How sharp was the image with the new camera?
It should be pretty clear. Not as sharp as you'd expect with today's technology but easily good enough to recognise everything in view. Check my newer video on this though as there may be another reason for the flickering.
great video . i have a 2012 mondeo titanium head unit has the silver ring on it but camera is not installed on the car .is there a reversing camera that can be fitter to the head unit
If you can get hold of the camera and control box, you can install the OEM module without needing to do anything other than plug it in. The head unit has a FAKRA connector on the back which is a composite video input. So any camera can be used to feed into this - it just won't have the lines on the image. Something like this would work: www.banggood.com/custlink/mmmmPj1yDM if you can find a long enough cable and adaptor for the head unit. Connect power to the reversing lights.
@@sdgelectronics thank you for the reply . So if I understand you properly I can just get the camera in the link and install it without the oem module and it should work
@@sdgelectronics any aftermarket camera should work with the navigation system?
Hi Steve, I have just fitted a new camera and wiring loom as per your video all went well, when i go into reverse it takes a good 5 mins before it comes onto the screen . i did not get a message saying new camera detected, should i disconnect the battery to reset the system thanks malc
Hi Steve, if you dont mind me asking what do you do for your day job? Thanks. Keep your videos coming :)
Scouse VADER Hi, I work at an engineering consultancy where I design electronics for medical devices. Thanks.
are there wireless videos?
hi i watched your video but my problem is a little different the camera works but it doesn't show me the warning lines and my parking sensors don't work! what could it be thank you very much
The lines come from the parking distance module, so it sounds like it is faulty. You'll need a diagnostic scanner or forscan to see what's wrong
Good morning and thank you for your quick reply! on diagnostics it says a problem in the camera, I replaced it with another one but it is second hand, it is highly likely that it is not correct, sometimes when the lines come out the sensors also worked, but lately there are no lines and the parking sensors are not working, what does that parking module look like?? where is it? my car is ford mondeo 2012 station wagon
@@bubo45ful the PDM controls parking sensors independently of the camera module, so if the sensors aren't working you should concentrate on that first. The camera module gets info from the steering angle sensor module and parking distance module before it displays the lines. Look on eBay for the PDM to see how it looks
I found a new one PARK ASSIST MODULE I will try to replace it, I hope that the problem is in it, Thanks
Great video! Do you still have the old wire loom?
hallo ....can you tell me which color in the cabel does which job?
My car comes with all the ports...parts and plugs but no bloody camera. Is it hard to fit originally
I doubt you have the correct head unit. Does it have the silver bezel on the volume knob or the black volume knob?
No switching over at all on mine when you select reverse , have checked grey plug , that looks ok and has grease in it ... other end is plugged to box ... as said , No switching over on screen at all .. it's as if I don't have one ..
does the head unit need to come out to check ?
Where or what type of switch is it to engage when put into reverse ???
I've checked to see if there's a micro switch on gear linking but nothing under lever ... where can I check .. as said , I'm getting no engaging what so ever !
Can I ask where you bought the camera from, can't find 1 for that price anywhere. Many Thanks
They've gone up on price significantly now they are no longer in production. Last I checked it was 3x more sadly
Hi Steve, I have the original factory camera and need to change the wiring loom as per your video. When I called FordUkParts they advised that there is a new wire version (like yours). Question is will the new wire connect to the old factory fitted camera or is it a different connector? Thanks.
Paul Panteli Different I'm afraid. You have to replace them together.
SDG Electronics ok thanks for letting me know Steve.
Hiya mate, got a 2011 Money, reversing camera gives no image whatsoever. Have made and connected a new earth strap to the control module, and checked for water ingress in the camera connection...no liquid or signs of oxidisation. Could I pick your brains as to what you reckon the next step should be please? Ta muchly :)
It depends a little on what equipment or expertise you have. Next step would probably be to lift out the head unit and check the cable is correctly inserted. If you have a FAKRA cable adaptor, you could test the input on the headunit also. If it's all OK, you need to check the camera controller is getting power on the green connector.
can you just take off the dome and clean the condensation in the dome ? as my camera works but view blurry
It seemed to be completely sealed. I had to destructively disassemble mine
@@sdgelectronics looks like it comes apart with screws so is it possible to take apart and refit?
Hi SDG we have a ford smax 2.2 titanium x , the camera started flickering and now the fault is solid. nothing when we put the car into reverse , it just stays on the radio, should the screen go blank in reverse please , I have the car in bits at the moment . the fact that it started flickering makes me think that i can fix this myself ...hopefully .. appreciate your help thx
It only switches to camera if there is a valid video input. Check my other video - I found the fault.
@@sdgelectronics Thanks for the reply.. i have worked in electronics and computers for many years but cannot see anything obvious.. i have sprayed / cleaned the connectors .. .. i will have a look at your other video thank you.. do you think its more likely to be a the boot end rather than the audio system input .. tbanks for your help!
If I put the smax in reverse i should see a change in voltage at the first connector? would you suspect that as it started flickering green and then failed that it is most probably just a break in the cable/bad earth somewhere - can u please send me th link from your other video . Thanks very much for your help !
Hi Steve you posted this video couple years ago so how has this new camera been working...any signs of the old problem creeping back??? I've had this exact same issue with my reversing camera (2011 S-Max 2.2 Titanium X Sport) from the very first day I brought the car! I've been putting up with this problem for the past few years and it absolutely drives me crazy at times as it seem to work perfectly fine when I don't need to use it but on few occasions where I could do with it working...those are the times it never does!!!
Mine has just started playing up again. I need to investigate to find the fault
what was the part number of the camera? I've a focus which needs a new camera but all the writing on the labels have disappeared, damp weather!
+Denis O Gorman Hi, the part number is in the description for both the camera and loom.
+SDG Electronics : D'OH......thanks, I didn't max the comment selection before I asked the question. My camera had moisture ingress with water condensation on the inside of the dome. I removed the camera and separated the dome housing from the camera housing by opening the three screws. I'm dried it out over night and I'm putting it back in today. But I noticed that looking through the dome the optical quality is pretty crap. In summary these are not great cameras! But for later models ford have Valeo cameras (ones without the dome), way better!
Hello, where did you source the parts from, ford parts plus have just quoted me £410 for both loom and camera.... Thanks.
I think that's the going rate now that they're out of production. Have you checked my later video on this subject? You may not need a new camera
Good job, Steve. I've never heard of a Mondeo Titanium X Sport before. How many horses does it have?
Robert Calk Jr. Stock is 200hp for the diesel model and 240hp for the petrol model. I have the diesel tuned to 245hp, but this car is purely for commuting to work so economy is important. I use one of the other petrol cars for short trips.
SDG Electronics
Cool. I like diesels. I guess fords have different model names in your country than in the USA. Does the name, "Mondeo", have some significance to your country?
Robert Calk Jr. No significance as far as I know. Your Ford Fusion is now our newer model Mondeo. My sport model is the previous generation built in Germany.
+SDG Electronics hi Steve where can I buy the Mondeo reversing camera my local ford dealer wants £233 +vat (I don't know if that includes new loom)
+Barry Hill my mondeo is a 2011 x sport 2.2
Hi Steve , I see this is quite old now , but now have a fault with this car ..my headunit does not engage at all when reverse selected ... not worked when I got the car ... see this vid and checked for moisture in plug but clean ...
So connection plug is dry and good but nothing working .. Now have the new revised equipment bought ..plugged into module and still nothing ... is there a switch unit from gearbox When reverse is selected would anyone know ... parking sensors are working when reverse selected ..I was on the understanding cam is triggered with pdc 🤔 now booked with dealer for diagnostic £85.00 .
I just don’t understand why headunit doesn’t switch to camera ...
Hi Rob,
It could be a fault or bad connection with the unit in the rear of the car that the wiring loom plugs into, otherwise there is a video connector at the back of the headunit which could have worked loose. If the lead is not inserted into the headunit, it won't switch over to video even if reverse is selected. If you want to fiddle, I'd disconnect the battery and re-seat all of the connections.
SDG Electronics ok cheers ...
Head unit removed , 3 plugs on back , one of which I’m guessing is for cam ..but locked in ok .. so all ok there ..still nothing .. I’m now thinking the module is at fault..or calibration software has been lost somehow 🤔
Hi steve , as in last post .. was the module at fault .. replacement fitted ..done exactly the same as yours in vid ... it had to re config then all good ...
my original cam and loom is probably good after all that but not tried it As may have caused old module to fail ..
cheers for vid as cam and loom replacement was straight forward seeing this ... same as with the nylon nut and bolts as rivets wouldn’t hold after drilling old ones out ..hole in panel was bigger ! So nylon fasteners with a little glue just incase ...
just wondering if it’s worth getting the module looked at to see if it can be repaired
Thanks again
Rob
Hello! From what dealer did you buy these parts? They seems to be quite cheap compared to others...
I used FordPartsUK
Sorry how to connect the camera to the recorder
Hi SDG Electronics, where in the country are you? You seem to know what you're doing, I have the same problem with my camera on my S-Max and I thought maybe I can pay you to fit my camera for me.
Pity that you fast-forwarded or spared the parts where you dismount all the plastic stuff from the trunk, as well as the actual camera replacing action. That would have been the help in detail I was looking for. Where I would have to losen which screw, pull where, wehre are latches and all that stuff....
Hello! What screws (2 pcs.) is the camera module attached to? Or was it attached with pop rivets? ruclips.net/video/gx2NaDOqv5g/видео.html
Спасибо!
Thank you
What year is your car?
jimstand 2012, just out of warranty :(
+SDG Electronics Hi there, do you know if you can update the firmware on the head unit BS7T 18K931 ??
I don't know where you got those prices from but for just quoted me over £600 trade for both camera and wiring loom
Probably saved yourself £100+ in labour there Steve ;)
***** A much needed saving, it's going in tomorrow for a replacement rear main oil seal which is a job I cannot do myself. £30 oil seal, £600 labour... :( Slightly disappointed it's started to fail as I baby this car and is very unusual for it to happen so early. 2 months outside of the warranty.
SDG Electronics I'd wave 'sale of goods act' at them
SDG Electronics Yea £600 quid is a lot considering the cost of the seal.. Plus the fact that the seal itself only takes 5 minutes to fit :o .. You certainly get your moneys worth though as getting the gearbox out is quite a job. Well.. Not the g'box itself, but all the stuff that's attached to it.
Bit of advice Steve... IF the clutch has not already been replaced, you might like to get the clutch checked/replaced whilst the engine/g'box are split, as it's the same job to do a clutch!
The reason it's advisable to replace the clutch kit at the same time is because not only might the clutch be contaminated (with oil particles etc) but it's just not worth the hassle (and cost) of having a clutch issue show up once everything is put back together. As it would cost another £600 for that same job again.
Anyway.. Hope all goes well with it.
***** Thanks for the advice - The clutch is being replaced too. They offered to do it for £100, so worth doing.
Thanks!
SDG Electronics Yep.. That's a reasonable deal Steve.