Tally Ho Capstan Project: Using the Lathe Taper Attachment to Turn Tapers on the Main Shaft
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
- Tally Ho Capstan Project: Using the Lathe Taper Attachment to Turn Tapers on the Main Shaft
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It seems as if Leo has chosen a craftsman for this project that is as skilled and dedicated to perfection as the shipwrights he has building that beautiful vessel. It truely is a gold plated build. I can't imagine a boat being built better. Perfection personified.
Perfection personified indeed!
I turn tapers on my old beat up atlas lathe all the time- mostly not on purpose!
😂😂😂
Some of my best ideas were the results of accidents.
Best comment ever.
lol
I am amazed at the skill of this gentleman.
You don’t have to be a millwright to appreciate the hard work and dedication of Mr. Rucker’s dedication to his work.
I really appreciate the detailed explanation of the inner workings of each machine as you use them. It greatly enhances understanding of the machinist's craft.
Yes, like the "capstan drum or the windlass drum or whatever you want to call it."
I'm a former employee of Monarch machine tool in NY. Love seeing those old units still performing! Tally Ho appreciates it also!
Am I going to become a machinist? No. Am I every going to build or own a boat? No.
Have I been eagerly watching all of Leo's videos plus the related videos for years? Heck yes. The craftsmanship is incredible, and the sheer amount of detail work that is going into Tally Ho just blows my mind.
My father had a machine shop and I loved working there. You are an amazing patient teacher, going over things clearly and as simply as possible. I would have loved having you as my shop teacher. So now, thanks to you and RUclips, many others can enjoy it. Only thing missing is the wonderful smell of a shop.
OMG !! When I was an apprentice millwright my dad was a journeyman and I was working with him he ask me for a 1" wrench so I handed him a crescent adjustable wrench he scouled at me and threw it down and made me get a combo wrench and after he used it I carried that wrench for the rest of the day. Then he caught me using a channel lock plier on a pump shaft to turn it. Man he was so angry I put them shithooks on a machined piece of machinery!! The lesson I learned was in His words " there is a tool a proper tool for every job " even today when I pick up that channel lock it's to do some plumbing. I write this with a big smile on my face as I have much respect for your skills but them channel locks in use on that lath made my dad's words clearly come back, may he rest in peace. God bless you always sir
Amen
My Dad was also a Millwright, and had the same work ethic as YOUR Dad. I tried to follow him into the trade, but due to the economy, I joined the Air Force as an Aircraft Mechanic. 30 + years after he passed, I STILL hear and follow his advice!
@normmcrae1140 I am 68 years old and 35+ years in the millwrights seen lots of Craftsmen in all trades it was Great !! Now they havnt put on an apprentice in 4 years in this state , no one wants to do the physical part or get greasey. Sadly the trades are being sold out. Even this old school machine work has been lost to CNC. Anyway God bless you and Good Dads that handed down the "WAY"
@@kentonyoderii3443 I agree - I LOVED being able to look at a plane or machine and say that "I FIXED THAT!"
I still do with my Motorcycles and vehicles (I'm Elbows deep in my Yamaha Bolt, right now!)
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Keith - it’s a real pleasure to watch this - I am a time served fitter and turner - long time retired.😉👍
"We're in the short rows now..." I haven't heard that since I was a kid. 😊
Never heard that before but understand the expression.
Well I turned on my rather vintage craftsman wood lathe yesterday for the first time in a year or so, to knock out a rough tool handle, and I realized that watching these metal machining videos actually helps me remember how to operate the thing.
I feel a lot better seeing all those tools piled on Keith's headstock.
One of things I really enjoy about this channel is the amount of detail you go into Keith. It's great to watch.
You are a natural born instructor, clear and assured. Experience is everything!
Excellent work! Not only restoring a vintage device, but modernizing it at the same time.
Thanks Keith. Brings back many happy memories of my brother Stan who was a tradesman Fitter & Turner who sadly is no longer with us. Like yourself, he was a man with a precise set of skills and a vast knowledge of lathe work.
We call that "Just like downtown!" That's where all the professionals work! I have been machining for 40 years, great job Keith.
So interesting to watch the taper setup, thanks for the detailed explanation…😊
That may have been the most interesting, educational and enjoyable video yet! Every machinist I have ever met had an element of OCD. I think it’s a prerequisite to be an exceptional machinist!
Beautiful work, Keith.
I had no clue how tapers were machined and tried to noodle how it gets done. Now, Keith has turned on the light bulb because he takes such effort to educate his viewers! This ancient capstan will be in high clover when complete. St Marys, GA
That jig in the back is not always common. The upper most slide that rotates is the compound slide. The one that the tools mount sits on. That one can be rotated to the correct angle for a taper, and then it can be used to move the cutter. That's the more common practice for cutting tapers. His jig is nice because it makes for a much cleaner cut.
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First time in my life that I ever heard of or saw a taper micrometer. And I am an 81 y/o retired mechanical engineer that thought I was familiar with machine shop operations.
Edit to add: Another way to cut a taper is to offset the tailstock which I learned in machine shop class in 1957. We never measured the taper because approximate was close enough for the application we had. The application was a lathe dog and the tapered part fit in the slot of the lathe face plate.
I saw all sorts of exotic precision tools in the naval dock yard where I worked overhauling guided missile launchers and directors, but I never saw a micrometer for tapers either. One thing I did use was an engineers microscope and that would be a dream tool for my current workshop, probably hideously expensive though.
Keith: You are the heart & soul of what makes America so great. So inspirational.
I have a South Bend 13 toolroom lathe with the taper attachment. So far I have not had the opportunity to cut a taper with it. I had been wondering a bit about how to set it up, but your explanation is the clearest one I have seen. I am sure one day I will want to cut a taper, and will refer back to this episode when that day comes. Thank you very much!
Keith, Mr Pete is right you are articulate and a great craftsman. Thank you for all the videos you share.
Love your work Keith. You are a credit to machining and to the preservation of the knowledge we need to keep.
Awesome video Keith! Your explanation of cutting tapers to 'hobbyist' machinist like me is so clear. Thank you much for taking the time to pass along your skills to all of us out here in hobby land! Great video series, exciting to see it coming together.
~Newnan, GA.
There sure is something really satisfying about a snug bearing fit!
Ancouple tenths ! wow your making a piano my friend. I used to work to those numbers a lot way back when.b A t6aper mic now.? what else are you hiding from us. The days of wires and various mics we were comfortable using and the "our bible" is haw it was done in days of old ! When in the day I was learning how to use Taper Attachments and Tracers I have to be honest, I was terrified. Having these videos our Leo will be just tickled to see this proses by an older type master machinist makes this great process come to being. He sure has picked up a bunch of real professionals to help him on in his dream my friend.
My father was a master CNC operater for John Deere for 30 years and made prototype parts for new tractors they were designing and watching you brings back a lot of memories.. He started off on machines just like this with high school education and learned a lot of match to perform the work he had to do...
Always a good feeling when you realise you didn't screw up a huge piece of stock.
Your Head is working perfect with the Steel ! Relax and get a Cup of Tea....Earl Grey i prefer after a though thinkin'Job like this. Kind regards from Germany, Rudi 👍
Amazing to see how these components can be re-made.
Love this stuff. Never machined any metal but there’s something so satisfying about watching someone else do it!
Keith, wonderful craftmanship. Well done.
I always wondered about turning tapers, I was excited to see you dedicate a video to these.
it is the type of job where you take all the job or nothing at all, splitting between between different machine shops is just call for trouble.
very good project
very good video.
I appreciate the "one step at a time" message you keep hitting on. It's pretty amazing what one can accomplish by working steadily, sequentially, and being diligent in every step. A great model for young people, if they listen!
Boy, you were a happy man when that shaft slid right into the drum like a glove. Leo is gonna love this when you're done.
This is an example of brilliant teaching. Keith you are a wonderful instructor. This could not be done better. You nailed it.
~ 12:00 Keith Fenner has some videos of fitting fish-boat propellers to drive shafts using tapers. He finishes the fit using various grades of fine abrasive compounds & bluing indicators to mate the two parts more-or-less perfectly. Lots of fussy work...
A very enjoyable series. Many thanks Keith 👍
Amazing! this is a lost art which hopefully with not be lost forever in the future.
Hail the algorithm!
#TallyHo !
So that’s how you do a taper! Great video. Looking forward to the slots now!
Nice replication of the original, good for another 100 years and yes as in any complicated bit of work as you invest more effort and material costs the stress of making an error that would nullify everything invested up to that point rises exponentially!
Nice work, well done. It is scary when your working on expensive metal. As a novice fitter I wrote off a big chunk of "special K" I think it was called, not good.
I purchased a Southbend H10 with a taper attachment about six years ago. I never looked into using it. About four months ago I looked into using it, and noticed several parts were missing. I spent the last four months getting it to work. I learned from this video how to accurately set up to cut a taper. I also went down a rabbit hole of learning how to measure inside and outside tapers on the internet. Thank You for providing this information!
So satisfying. Keith breathed a sigh of relief with the phrase "Lookee there".
Love watching the channel, less a machine shop and more an art studio. You are an artist!
takes me back to my Dad's machine shop, the taper attachment explanation really did it!
Genetic engineers should be cloning these skilled people so future generations have them. Awesome skills
Well that turned out nicely.
The Tally Ho is going to have an excellent piece of equipment when you are all finished.
Back in the day we had “Trava-Dials” mounted on lathes and mills.
Pump pliers! When I was younger and if I was caught using those things rather than a proper wrench, I had my knuckles (or maybe the side my head) rapped, those lessens have stuck with me for all of a long life. I really cringed when I saw you do that. OK, others have commented on the same. Let us organize a posse to visit Kurt and confiscate his pump pliers.
Watching your finger being used as a pointer when those string chips were flying about had me a bit worried. Keep a screwdriver or something handy Keith! Thanks!
well done!
I kind of love that when you first measured the tapers it gave some odd dimentions, but it turned out to be a nominal size afterall.
Such a joy to watch a real craftsman at work.
Oooo That sound at 25:43 was nice
the tan of 3° is 0.05241
Close enough to your measured 0.052 which lets me assume, the taper was made to 3°
I was hoping somebody did the math. I did check and a MT4 is 1.4876 a MT5 is 1.5073.
The inverse sin of (0.104/1.000) is 5.970 deg. The sin of 6 degrees is 0.1045. So likely intended to be that.
Not a machinist but understood how you machined that after explaining it.
Very nice work and camera work as well.....Thanks Keith.....
Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸
Great teacher!
That fit at the end
Keith You are one of the amazing craftsman that are re-making Tally Ho into a master class of American CRAFTSMANSHIP. How sweet it is
Thank you for this lesson on making tapper ends on shaft .... ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊 ....
Wow, that was a fast 28 minutes. Bet leo is getting excited
It’s always a pleasure to watch mold metal into shape 👍
This is not a job that I ever see myself actually doing but, Keith you have given me a much greater understanding and appreciation of what a buddy of mine actually does for Stryker! Interesting to see, thank you!
As Richard Petty said " I would rather be lucky than good " LOL Nice job Keith.
Sin(6°)=0.1045 => your measurements seem spot on
always interesting. thanks Mr. Keith!
I'd been meaning to buy an old Southbend hobby type lathe for the past 30 years. I loved machining in metal shop back in highschool. Thanks for the detailed instructions.
You're a good teacher, Keith Rucker. Don't know if I'll ever use it but it's fun learning.
These videos give you a real appreciation of what it must cost to do do a restoration like this at retail cost. This one project is what, 80 hours of labor and machine time? Plus materials? Meoowch$.
Great work. Totally fitting with the Tally Ho! project.
Pat yer back Keith. You deserve a big one EH !
Keith your a very goo teacher t like the way you talk and show what you are about to do . Being 79 years old i like the old school way the best. The only DRO i have is on my milling machine. Thank you for a very good video.
_Engineers make the World go around ~ precision engineers KEEP it going!_
What a wonderful display of engineering brilliance. Keith , thank you.
7:05 - Cut dims on radius or cut dims on diameter; it does matter, always.
8:08 - Well, yes.
11:36 - Tap it with a 4oz brass hammer, tighten the clamp screws and indicate it again.
12:35 - Yep. The female tapers in the capstan ain't that close. If you really want a taper fit, it's time for some valve-grinding compound and bluing.
13:08 - 'Book 'em, Danno'; run it.
16:15 - Thank you!
26:09 - IC crank bearing dim clearances are (rule of thumb) .001"/1.0" diameter. They are pressure lubed, so this is not a direct comparison.
Lovely when a job works out perfect like that due your craftsmanship, well done Keith and thank you for the share 👏👏👏👍
I've worked on a 'male/female' tapered metal rod. It had NO keyway and did NOT twist. To disengage the tapers was the use of hydraulic oil pressurized at fitting between the two halves.
thank you Keith
Thank you Keith!
52/1000 inch or 1.32mm whichever is easier to say or see… I was always amazed by people who can do precision machining and accurately express it in imperial measurements. I guess it’s doable, just takes a while to get your bearings.
A great video. What a superb lathe you have there. I used to operate a similar machine back in my youth but this one has a few extra features I could only dream of. It's great to watch an artisan at work. 👍
Ok I'll feed the algorithm, Keith, you deserve it. Great job, the taper attachment sure beats hand feeding the compound. I liked seeing that taper mic in action too. You collect a lot of tools and it's great to see some of the more obscure ones brought out and used. One question: I have rarely seen you answer comments. Just busy? Your's is still one of the most watchable machining oriented channels. Quality content time after time. All the best, Mart in England.
"This is tuning out nice." I see what you did there Keith! 😁
It will look and work beautifully on the deck. Thank you!
Fascinating work Keith
That was a great explanation of the taper cut. As a non-machinest, I enjoy the content
The Doctor of Precision strikes again! Fantastically Awesome job on the machining of that shaft! That taper attachment is the cat’s meow. I use mag bases and indicators on a regular basis on the CNC lathes too. It makes it easier to program the “lies” you need to make good parts…ha ha ha
Great channel! I always look forward to your videos every week.
You probably get a lot of love working on parts for the Tally Ho!
Great work
That's some impressive workmanship.
Brilliant Keith!
Great work Keith!