Tally Ho Capstan Project: Single Point Threading and Milling Keyways in the Capstan Center Shaft
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2024
- Tally Ho Capstan Project: Single Point Threading and Milling Keyways in the Capstan Center Shaft
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I suspect that Leo watches every one of these videos, and is getting more and more excited that the capstan project is close to complete! Thanks, Keith.
I was thinking exactly the same thing as I was watching - I am sure that highly-skilled people have huge and mutual respect for each other.
I suspect it's been done for quite sometime. Videos are just being finished for release many weeks later by each creator. 🤷♂️
@@stomp4423 the windy hill foundry, that made the top casting made videos in real time, and for that reason i believe keith is maybe a couple days to a week behind real time
I'd bet that due to the time it takes for editing that Leo has the Capstan and we haven't seen him install it yet, because of the editing he needs to do.
@@drgdieselfrenzy7707 Though I doubt that, I hope you are right.
Watching Keith cut those threads at 13:30 while he simultaneously explains what he's doing was pretty impressive. Especially given the amount of work he's put into the part and the consequence of making a mistake. I would have to give the threading my full attention. It shows how this process is second nature to him. Great stuff.
That was a very fast lead. I couldn't talk and,cut those threads.
Having a machinist such as yourself, doing this job "old school" is so fitting for the whole Tally ho project. I've enjoyed your channel since before this project and like your easy going style. To have had this part done in a modern way just wouldn't seem right. I'm glad that you were given the job and would expect that you'll be one of the first to be given a sail on the boat when it's in and hopefully, some other compensation as well. Your efforts are not going unnoticed. Did you ever realize how much time this was going to take you when that top of the capstan broke apart? Think of all the people that will look at that capstan and be able to say that they saw the insides of that being made by you and Windy Hill Foundry. I hope you can get at least half the enjoyment in making these things as the people who watch the video's. Keep up the good work. Jim
Very well said
and don't for get Websters contribution
This shaft might be a good project for a cnc lathe, but you showing how to do all these steps by hand has a great educational and entertaining value.
Please tell us how much time it would take to write the program,calculate the speeds and feed rates, then run program checks. My guess is that it will be about the same for the first part. One-Of is the Key here. The scrap bin should only contain shavings from One bar. Thanks for taking us along.
@@billkurek5576 I have been a journeyman machinist for the last 20 years and a good portion of that was in the cnc side of things. On a proper cnc lathe with conversational programming, it would have taken maybe 2hr of setup time and maybe 2.5-3 for run time. If it was a machine with live tooling also the keyway/slot would have added maybe half an hour to that.
It’s wonderful to see the skill you have and the many measuring pieces of equipment to make this happen. Leo & the crew are very lucky to have you as part of this project. You have now cemented your name in history as one of the legions of the Tally Ho restoration.
Leo is an absolute magnet, and has drawn so many wonderful "mechanics" into the Tally Ho project, plus I'm sure Leo is well "tuned in" to what Kieth is doing. Tally-ho is the traditional cry made by the huntsman to tell others the quarry has been sighted. It may also be used with directions, including "away" and "back". Watching these Master Craftsmen at work is so soothing.
You nailed it in one paragraph.
What is interesting is this is not the first time Keith helped Leo with a restoration. See episode 68 in Tally Ho and Keith's 2 episodes restoring the face for the pipe threaded.
Winches have always been very very expensive. This series of videos shows why.
Tally Ho is a hand built "old school" sailing yacht, I'm sure Leo wanted to stick to the old way of doing or refurbishing the things he's reusing. At any rate, your hard work hasn't gone unnoticed by the fans.
Watching you program a CNC just wouldn't bring the same enjoyment as watching someone who has spent years learning a skill exercise it to the best of their ability.
Yeah. I have about given up on Abom79.He only makes simple things to post content and,make commercials.
This is truly wonderful. Thank you so much. I have watched Abolm79 for 12 years. I have watched CuttingEdgeEngineering for a year. This is the FIRST and ONLY time I have ever seen an explanation of how to set a lathe to cut threads. Kieth you did it brilliantly. Every old-school manual lathe has a gear box like the one shown here, and a plaque like the one shown here. Karen shows Kurtis setting his, much newer, Chinese made, manual lathe, for threading, but he does not explain what he is doing. I notice that Kurtis never checks his settings; he just cuts threads, while Adam _always_ first makes a "scratch" pass and uses a gauge to make sure he has set the levers correctly for his thread pitch. It is _impossible_ (utterly impossible) to overstate what a Tremendous Value RUclips brings to everyone in the world. All over the world people can watch this and learn how to do it. Thanks again.
I am just impressed by the italicized font. I can't figure out how to get my phone to do that.
You really think that Kurtis doesn't check his settings? Seriously? Kurtis walked the viewer thru single point threading a long time ago, including doing a few scratch passes. That's such elementary stuff that by now Karen either does not bother recording the set-up, or if she does, the scenes never make the final cut. Keith does a great job of explaining the most elementary operations of each feature of the job, Kurtis gives a great description of what he is going to do and why he is going to do it in the opening scenes, and then does world-class work while the viewer sits back and watches the master at work. Very different style.
That said, comparing the knowledge and workmanship of Keith to Kurtis is like comparing the knowledge and workmanship of Steve Denette and his crew during the build, to Leo and the shipwrights working with him, or comparing Arabella to Tally Ho. As good as Steve and Keith are, they are not in the same league as Leo and Kurtis respectively. By the way, Kurtis would have had the windlass apart without smashing all to hell and back. Watching Keith and Clark whale on the capstan must have sent Leo to the custom made stained glass front liquor cabinet in the corner or Tally Ho's saloon!
Not denying that it is super nice of Keith to help Leo with Tally Ho. It certainly is, and I'm sure he is not motivated solely by the fact that involvement with the Tally Ho project is driving an lots of traffic to his channel.
I also noticed the uncommon level of detail in this video. Thanks for pointing it out.
Love seeing a guy do great work who obviously loves what he does! Craftsmanship at its finest!🇨🇦
Some of the best content on the tubes. I watched as the old capstan came off of a very wrecky old ship, I watched every episode of the pattern guy, I was with you when you and Dave broke the thing free, I commiserated with Dave through the process of trial and failure to cast the new piece, I have watched every episode of you flattening, cutting, boring to get the newest part to fit and to make this rather complex rod. I wait for each weeks efforts.... and while I have been a fan of your channel for sometime , I was introduced to Windy hill more through this project than any other.
I'm loving every second.
who is "Dave"?
Great video Keith. Retrofit, rebuild and upgrade. Leo found the proper craftsman for this project.
Your videos have been such a great side note to the Tally Ho project videos that Leo is producing. They’ve added to the wealth of knowledge and entertainment I’ve gained from the whole project and I greatly appreciate you sharing your skill and expertise.
Thanks Keith. You’re definitely the right person for this job. Besides having the tools and skills necessary to do the job, you have the ability to explain what you’re doing to a mostly lay audience. Congratulations on finishing the shaft. It’s been a pleasure watching you work.
The tentacles of the Tally Ho project have reached throughout the entire American landscape of ingenuity, craftsmanship and hard work 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 💪🏽
Great explanation of the single-point threading process.
Curious, I’ve watched your earlier how to cut a thread, and others too, but this time it made sense! Thank you.
I’ve joined you through Leo and it’s just another thing I can thank him for. I’m looking at the array of all those tool chests in the background and marvel at the amount of specialty tools, dies, set-up blocks, micrometers and gauges they must contain. I’ve always been intrigued by machinist chests and have a few lesser ones that serve my hobbies well. If I was a visitor I would spend days just looking through those drawers. And handling and smelling the years of use they’ve had. That sounds a little crazy now that I’m writing it instead of thinking it…but the heart wants what the heart wants. Thanks for sharing your passion and inspiring ours.
Another masterclass! Many thanks and kind regards from the UK 🇬🇧 ❤🇺🇸
Watching you turn those threads brought me back to my basic machining class in the mid-1960s at the University of Washington that was a course requirement for my Industrial Design major. I had a heck of a time getting the threads and knurled handle done before the quarter ended. Love your precision.
You sir are a hero. All of Tally Ho’s fans thank you for sharing this excellent work. 🇨🇦
I'm just grateful to be able to watch these videos. So glad someone is taking the time to record them. Been watching all of Tally ho's videos sense the beginning.
First class explanation of the single point threading process on a Monarch lathe
The big difference is: CNC machining isn't very much fun to watch. You put down the barriers, the machine rattles and shakes for a bit and your part is done. Watching this metal bar being shaped into into its elegant final form is so much more satisfying.
"...and your part is done." Unless you made an unnoticed typo or other mistake in your programming. Then you might have a wreck with various consequences. In my opinion, the 10th one is fun to watch but the 1st one is nerve-wracking but I know that's just my old-school raising peeking through.
It would be wonderful if we could pass the knowledge acquired through the years to the next generations quickly. Great work, sir! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and know-how with all of us who enjoy your videos.
Thanks for going through the threading setup once again. I know you have been through this many times, but it's ALWAYS a good thing to go back to once in a while. People just 'popping in' because of it being for Tally Ho may not be 'in the know'. Personally, I really liked seeing this for probably the 20th time, it doesn't get old to me. Always interesting.
It never ceases to amaze me how quality follows quality! Leo and his crew are in many ways perfectionists, and it seems as though you are as well! Great job in recreating a piece of historical maritime equipment!
I grew up going with my dad to his work place on weekends, or if he got a call when he was off to come help fix something. He worked on a big factory that produced feed production and distribution systems for big pig and cattle farms. I still have very fond memories of the early days when they had alot of these old mills and lathes.. So seeing you work them brings back alot of good memories.. I can almost smell the warm metal and cutting fluid! Keep up the great work Keith, and thanks for keeping the manual machining alive! Only thing is, I live in EU, so the imperial numbers are hard to follow, sounds like a dark art! haha
Accept that this could have been done by a CNC machine, but watching you measure, design and build has been incredibly absorbing - way more so that watching a CNC machine. Excellent work and another fantastic addition to Tally Ho.
You Sir are true Engineer. Brilliant work. Thank you.
Like Mike you are never to old to learn. At almost 80 I have spent almost all my life building 5” gauge steam locomotives here in the UK. I have always set my tool post square by using the front of the chuck, never thought of bumping the Tailstock barrel, guess I will be doing it that way in the future. Thanks Keith great series and another great tip.😊
Keith! At age 81 I am still learning a lot about machine work by watching every one of your videos.
Your Capstan Project for Tally Ho is in a whole new category: Spellbinding!
As an ex-sailboat owner/racer I also watch Leo's Tally Ho channel.
I get a kick out of comparing your and Leo's HAIRCUTS!
You comb your hair with a wash cloth.
Leo doesn't even own a pocket comb! 😅
Thanks for keeping me out of the bars and pool rooms!
You're terrific.
Mike Lonneke
Retired
Unison VA
Keith,
that is a work of art that only a person of great skill could produce.
The shaft looks a thing of beauty.
There is a quote attributable to a legal man named Louis Nizer that applies to you and what you show us on your videos IMHO.
"A man that works with his hands is a labourer.
A ,man that works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.
A man that works with his hands and his brain and his heart is an artist."
You are an artist Keith.
You are a great teacher too.
Thank you for sharing.
Damon Ross
Melbourne
Australia
Marvelous work Keith. All the hours spent replicating the shaft with its tapers etc, then comes the thread cutting and keyway cutting. A mistake on either of them would have reduced the whole thing to scrap. There aren't many men who could have done this and got it right.
I hope that whoever puts the parts together, greases up all the machined surfaces, to stop the rusting effect from the salt water in the air, after all the effort that has been put into the parts!
Thank you for the threading tutorial! I'm a newer viewer and a non-machinist and found it fascinating.
I just love exquisite craftsmanship, The entire TallyHo "restoration" is exactly that, and the capstan project is a perfect example.
This Tally Ho project probably brought new viewers that haven't watched machining videos. They probably appreciate the threading explanation. I don't mind a refresher course, either. I've known CNC machinists that would rather write a program to make a one of than use manual machines.
Your a Hero for Tally Ho ....❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊 ....
My grandfather was a machinest and my FIL was a tool and die maker. I admired their skill but learned in high school after trying to make a nailset that I do not have the mental tools to be a machinest. I could watch you work all day, facinating.
I just made a threading stop for my Leblond 13 Regal. No more hunting zero or fighting backlash
Nice job Keith. I've followed the Tally Ho Project since inception and what you are doing is most appreciated and interesting. Thank you. Cheers from Sydney, AU.
Early on, when i was a way bigger chicken than i am now, i used to remove the cutter from the Aloris tool post so as to not mess up the cut progression, then reversed the thread. It's funny how watching (the many) RUclips machinists boosts your confidence when cutting threads on a lathe.
Excellent; my pleasure to be able to follow this project and others with you, thank you.
Congratulations Keith - nice job and all the better done old school. Any none machinists watching a CNC doing this would be impressed but may well not understand what is actually going on, whereas with the manual method and your explanation they half at least half a chance of understanding what’s happening.
Keith this was really beautiful work. I’m not a machinist, I’m a woodworker, but I really enjoyed seeing you work and learning just a bit about metal work. Thanks
Awesome vid Keith, love your work on restoring America 🇺🇸
Thank you! I'm learning from you, so I can keep the tradition alive and well. Steamed up!
It's a British ship.
It’s 40 years since I learned lathe work in my apprenticeship, good to know nothing has changed.
_Precision engineering at its finest!_
Awesome job! Brings back memories of my machining experience. We used to have to work within 1:1000’ of an inch in brass, copper, aluminum and soft steel, in left hand and right hand threads, all connecting together, with nurled edges. You are doing awesome, honest work as a true engineer. The lathe I used was a coldent student lathe (300mm) and it seems far capable of both metric and imperial threads. Thanks for sharing your video!
Just a hobbyist, but thank you so much for sharing your work and expertise.
Thanks for the detailed descriptions of what and how you are doing on each step.
I concur that CNC has many uses, and have no issues with that. Except one; it is boring to watch. I am delighted that you use manual machines, because it is interesting to watch. Thank you. I drove a computer for years a don’t need to watch someone else do so. Another channel I subscribe to has started using more CNC, more power to them! But I can’t stand watching most of the CNC content.
If the boat hadn’t been abandoned that old shaft would still be good as new
Excellent work! I'm excited to see this capstan mounted on the boat.
As a Canadian Shipbuilder I thank you for the effort to spread your knowledge. Us dinosaurs are getting rare.
Looks terrific! Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos!
I really appreciate seeing how the Monarch lathe works. It is easy to why it is such a desirable lathe even though rather old.
Keith Rucker: machinist and shipwright.
Thank you Keith. I've learned so much from the Tally Ho project and this shaft subproject is no exception.
Great to see you getting back to basics. You do a great job of explaining what you are doing and why. Great for newbies. Great review if someone knows what they are doing. Thank you.
Happy Friday Keith! Thanks for the awesome videos! 😊
Great Job! There are old school machinists scattered in the family and I imagine, my great granddad would have done it just like this, and probably with a lot less of your technology.
It was probably not for guys who know how to machine, but I couldn't skip the lathe setup beginning. I always knew it was sort of like that, but I find the mechanical genius of the threading and feeding amazing technology in itself~ like how did someone even think of it? Neat stuff, and a dying artisan skillset.
At 5:05, setting the topslide to 29.5 degrees actually causes the RHS of the tool to take a fine shaving off the RHS of the thread while the LHS of the tool does most of the thread cutting. This ensures that the thread form is smooth on both flanks.
I love your work Keith, and I love Leo and his team's work too. Seeing you work together is bliss. When I see Tally Ho! set sail knowing that you were an integral part of that will be a wonderful moment.
Thank you for the threading lesson.. I really enjoy the ease you make threads, and when you use the dividing head.
It’s a shame that this beautifully machined piece will spend most of its existence hidden in the capstan. I would proudly display it as “industrial” art in my home.
WOW! Just a joy to watch the process. I admit, you make it look easy, yet I know the effort you put into it. Cheers!
What a great video. Thanks Keith, it's fantastic to see such precision skill at work - computers are great but nothing compared to the mine of knowledge and experience you have, or the care you take in explaining the setup. Such a good fit with the perfectionism of the Tally To build - keep smiling :)
First time I saw single point threads being made. Thanks Keith for taking the time to explain it again. A treat to watch you run the mill as well. Another great video in the series and thanks for sharing.
5 stars to you Keith! I do enjoy watching you figure out how to work these projects, it’s really fascinating.
Thanks for the entertainment.
Mark
10:56 - One of my mentors, lo, these many years back, made several pentagonal nuts for his live steam engine before he engaged mind while looking at the results. He had a sense of humor, so he hung on to them, but it was a lesson to me.
13:02 - Used what Keith is offering every time cutting single point threads (not often) but pretty sure it was Joe Pie who suggested mounting the cutting tool upside down, running reverse rotation (depending on your chuck mount) and cutting RH threads with no drama.
25:49 - McMaster(?) TiN coated cutter is probably gonna do what you want.
35:28 - Not sure. We contract for a lot of CNC work; you have to find a CNC amateur to get a one-off (prototype, in our case) done at anywhere close to a manual, good, machinist. Not only does it take the time to program the machining, it means the machine is idle before and after the work. Our suppliers prefer 100pc minimums to quote.
Thanks for great coverage on the Capstan work.
Nice, I work making bamboo fly rods and planning the strips I work to 10 thou. as much as I can. All those angles is crazy. Great job. Everything is made with CNC. Old school just puts heart into a piece.
Always enjoy watching a master work 👍
Once again, a craftsman at work. Thank you Keith for all the labour on this project for Tally Ho.
Absolutely mesmerizing!
Finally!! In terms of machining, someone briefly explained what "half-nutz" is (are)! Thank ya
Dear Keith, how about doing a video on yourself. How old were you when you first started in the machinist trade. Where did you get your education/apprenticeship? How did you accumulate all of your machinery? Obviously, you are quite talented, so let’s hear how you gathered so much knowledge.
Darn large Key, I wonder if that needed a new Engineering review the large Keyway. Big thanks I saw those Shaft all the time at my old Machine Shop, from old Waukesha Engines, from Oil Field Clutches.
Master Machinist and videographer!
looking forward to seeing you fit those tapers! Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Keith. Appreciated.
I have truly enjoyed watching how you have machined this piece. Wonderful old school techniques that will never be surpassed even with CNC.
The capstan project is just as compelling as the rest of the boat. Just watching this shaft come together was so interesting. Congrats and excellent work!
I really appreciate the explanation for the threading, I have always wondered about these things.
So impressive and educational.
Thank you Keith!
I am old school by not using the 1/2 nut. Too many things can happen. My lathe has a foot pedal for reversing when in threading mode. I really like sp threading and keyways of any sort. Makes us think.
fucking brilliant! always wondered how threading work managed to start again in the same place....not having to recut previous passes. The engineers who built these machines should have a temple built....with live offerings!!! And virgins!!!
Thank you for completely describing what I call The Threading Dance. I'm sure many in this audience were hearing this at this level of detail for the first time. Once you commit all the steps to muscle memory so that you can listen to the music, it becomes fun.
Thanks Keith
Good job Keith, lot of planning goes into a project like this!
EXCELLENT WORK....Thanks Keith....
Old F-4 Shoe🇺🇸
Wonderful work Kieth as usual.
As the owner of a new lathe only last week, I for one appreciate you taking the time to explain & show the single point threading process.
It along with the risk of crashing the new lathe are some of the things giving me nightmares at night.
I will search back & find this and watch it several times, before I attempt anything this complex.
I will probably do several “test runs” on machinists wax - to try and get the process to become second nature before I actually try it on metal.
There are viewers out here who appreciate you going back to the very basics.
The two comments - one about having to center find again with the different widths - probably would have tripped me up for sure.
I’d also probably tried to indicate in the second end to be horizontal to make the slot like you did the key way & that also would have been a mistake.
Finding out “what I don’t know” is pretty scary.
Hopefully I can learn enough watching these videos to not screw up straight out of the gate. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
I haven't cut threads in years. I know you can't do this in each video. It was fun to see the basics again on "your", lathe. Brought back a ton of memories.
I’ve watched your videos for many years and they just keep getting better and better. Thank you for all that you have taught me. Willy
thank you for showing me the skill and mental efforts of doing machine work the 'real' way. LOL.
Leo showed clips of you threading this on his latest video.