MESA Captured Their Greatest! (For Tonex)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Thanks for watching my review and demo of the new Tonex MESA/Boogie Reference Amps signature tone model collection. Let me know your thoughts in the comments below! Cheers!
Gear used in this video:
- ESP LTD Phoenix Deluxe 1000
- Gibson Les Paul Standard 60s
- PRS SE Mike Mushok Baritone
- ML Drums by ML Sound Lab
- Cubase 13 Pro
- OwnHammer Impulse Responses
- RedSeven Amplification Amp Central reactive load
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An original song of mine with me on vocals: • My First Song w/Vocals...
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Timecodes:
00:00 An Official MESA/Boogie Tonex Pack?!
00:20 Dual Rectifier Rock Demo (LTD Phoenix 1000 Deluxe)
01:47 Details About That Tone Model
02:24 What's The MESA/Boogie Reference Amps Signature Collection about?
03:11 What's Included?
05:57 Details Of The Next Demo
06:31 Triple Rectifier Metal Demo (PRS SE Mike Mushok Baritone)
07:56 Thoughts And Details About That Tone
08:37 Details Of The Next Tone
09:32 Mark IIC+ Rock Demo (Gibson Les Paul Std. 60s)
10:52 Info And Thoughts On That Tone
11:37 Trying Out Various Of The Included Models
12:46 Final Thoughts & Conclusion
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Woohoo official Mesa Boogie amps in Tonex! Thoughts?
If you can't beat them. join them.
Expensive.
Very Expensive and You cannot buy anything used from IK. They robbed Me of 80 dollars two months ago
expensive
As a master of mixing you should definitely teach us how to make a decent mix at home using our plugins, amps in our DAW s. Seriously, it's long overdue 😊. There you have a nice content for your next video. You're welcome😊.It's not fair that only your mixes sound awesome. A little help here.
Agreed
I second this. Would be a great video idea
He did that a long time ago ... There was a bunch of slate plugins iirc
Agreed this Dude makes one of the best mixing out there! 🤘
Please do this! Show us how you mix these!!!
*_6:14_*
*_Was able to pick one of these up about ten years ago for $300. It’s still my favorite sounding and playing baritone to this day. So glad I have one. I will never sell it._*
I loved mine while I had it too, but preferred the SE 277 once that came out, pretty much almost exclusively for Chevelle cover stuff. But then the digital drop tuning options from Fractal and Neural got good enough (for non recording needs) that I dropped the drop tuning arsenal to make life easier. One thing that never left me though was the addiction to the string tension and I now use a PRS Tremonti Baritone Hybrid (25.5" scale) in standard and Drop D tuning, but the brightness and dryness of an Aristides still does a bit better when using digital drop tuning options.
I truly admire your desire to constantly trying new sounds. I would never have nerves for that.
Wow! Sounds amazing
Always enjoying your tasteful playing and arranging. Would love to see and hear you grace a major act touring the world with your skills!!
Awesome! 😎 I might buy a Tonex this year, it seems 😂 Great job as always Jon! Bedankt! 😎
Sounds great! Thanks
This is awesome! I just got my TONEX two days ago.
Dang your fast! I was just toying with the TONEX yesterday lol
These sounded great! I wouldn't mind having a ToneX but there’s been so much great gear introduced in the last year I’m running out of money
Those powerchords are sweet!
Wow! These sound so good! Wish they do something similar w QC!
They sound great indeed!
Some dirty riffs! Sounds awesome!
It sounds killer.
Sure does!
Im getting a Tonex whenever i can,
These work in the software too if you are looking to enjoy the great amps before you get the pedal :)
@@ikmultimedia I prefer the hardware, is there a free trial of tonex software?
@@chemavivar Yes, there are "free" copies if you know where to look for 😂😂
@@chemavivarYes, but these amp packs are not included. In the normal ToneX software, you can test the entire pack for 30 minutes though. I do not know if ToneX free allows for the same, but I guess so.
@@chemavivar Yes, TONEX CS is the free version.
Awesome
They sound really good but you have the roffs two, so , props to that
Looking forward to seeing those show up for neural amp modeler 😅
🔥
Amazing work! Also noticed you are getting better and better with storytelling which makes this videos more intense to watch. On another note, just on sound and feel of the amps, would you take the tonex over the Ampero? I’m about to purchase one or the other and would appreciate your input. Thanks!
I prefer Tonex but it's a different concept. Modeling vs Capturing
So Gibson finally decided that its best to commoditize the Mesa experience.
Ive never wanted a tonex more in my life than rn
Wow! These are the first Tonex captures I've heard that I totally love! Kind of proof that the technology is there but the quality of the captures have been weak.
By the way, nailed that Tool tone in the first demo!
I had this discussion with a bunch of session musicians... all these companies EQ their plugins so they sound good on THEIR hardware but sound like absolute ass on everyone elses. It makes them all useless. They can easily make good stuff that everyone could use - but they just don't. STL Tones is a huge exception to this. But this is another example of its not hard to make captures that are EQ'd CORRECTLY that sound good on people's systems.
@@Classic_DionysuS This is simply not true. We and other companies test with multiple audio interfaces and setups (in fact we might test more on other companies' interfaces than we do our own or at least just as much). People were using TONEX software on many different audio interfaces long before the TONEX Pedal even existed.
Jon, how do you approach gain staging the DI input signal for plugins? Nowadays there's some discussion going on that you should have always input gain on your interface at zero and add or lower the gain in the plugin itself to sound as it was intended to. I don't know if your setup /gear makes you even think any of that, but I'd love hear from you on the DI input level into the plugin /amp sim. Your tones are so consistent no matter what you use. Maybe some vid on that subject? Cheers!
When we were discussing this in the ToneX FB group a while back, Jon showed little interest in this subject overall and stated he used his Helix board as the core unit for ReAmping. He stated he mainly dialed in his gain via ears. Works for him it seems. For me, I rather like dBu numbers as reference.
@@PippPriss Thanks! I tried to use the "zero gain" method but found my DI to be very undegained. So I've ended up doing what I always did - used my ears for gain staging. The only lesson I took from it, is that I measured what input signal I have (that is working for me) to stay consistent in the future, in case I messed it up by accident.
Yeah, I don't over think it and just use my ears. If it sounds undergained, raise the input gain. With tonex I often do that with values like +6 to +8 db's
Sounds really good. I've been on the fence about Tonex (had a Kemper for a while and wasn't crazy with it). Is this pack free of charge?
It's not free of course
I have had a few mesa amps and the f100 is the one I will never sell.
Finally
Too expensive, but I’m sure it’s awesome. If only they cared about their customers.
Hey Jon, what’s the story on your Mushok baritone?? I don’t see where it was ever offered in black like yours, and yours has what looks like a Hipshot Ibby bridge? I’ve never really cared for that model, but yours is really cool!
It has been modded by a previous owner
It seems very impressive! But 99 dollars converted in real for us here in Brazil it's very expensive. I'm not complaining about the value, just pointing that it's not something to everyone here. Saying that, your playing it's perfect and the profiles seems to be really great.
Cheers from ZS/SP - Brazil.
Whose fault is that?
Since it's official you can see why they need to separate it from the herd.
Obrigado
very cool riffing, but don't u think the tonex high gain models all have a either a bit of "mushy" attack or some "hairy" fizz ? i always felt the real amps had a tight and fast attack compared to the tonex captures?
I wonder why they excluded the graphic EQ from the modelling...it would be nice to use the sliders. The NDSP Mesa model has the EQ
It's not modelling, it's captures.
@@rossbalch That is true...but you can change the dials for volume and the tone controls...so why not the EQ sliders?
@@DanielBobke because those controls are generic post capture controls common to all models on ToneX. The sliders were already set as part of the capture.
@@rossbalch Makes sense. I like the modeler approach better than just the capture. I think that is NDSPs and other modelers advantage - although it may cost a bit more.
Honestly man I want to jam! I went through all of the looking for tone thing in the last year or two. I think we need to jam not be constantly searching through hundreds of presets trying to see if something will sound better. Thats my only thing with this stuff. I was going to buy Tonex but I backed out for that very reason. Honestly my real amp is hard to beat so I really don't know why I do it other than how it sounds with my real amp and a sim combined.
But it's a nice way if you want to bring your amp.
I would be interested to see how these compare to the Neural DSP Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ pack
Me too, I already like how you can tweak the NSP one like you can on the real amp, this tone x one seems pretty limited, can’t even use the graphic eq
I'm betting the Neural DSP are going to be much better. These are presets and seemingly you cannot adjust anything.
I'm betting Neural DSP is going to suck compared to these. Granted the newer models have less of that harsh artificial upper mid-range but these on the other hand will sound exactly like the amps.
I'm into modeleramps since the nineties. I had certain thoughts then.... till still today...while scrolling quickly tru the different amps, as we see and listen at he end of this video. ...modelersounds and captures, are nothing more than different EQ settings.... With one amp, a decent equaliser and the right eq setting, you can mimic any or each amp.
I've been looking for these plugins but absolutely cannot find them.
It's not a plugin, it's an expansion pack for Tonex
@@SonicDriveStudio where do you download/get/buy the expansion packs?
to steep a price
Is this stand-alone or an add-on to a platform?
Add on for Tonex
Where's the A/B of these compared to the real things like you did on the TMP EVH? Because I BET you you'll get the same results. Because, that's what modelers do....
Some modelers sounds extremely accurate! I've proven that many times on this channel
Is this free?
No
Too expensive , and the amps sound a bit weedy imo, amalgam and tone rats packs sound better, maybe they set the input gain at a different level than 0... Not sure
tubescreamer
Mark models really suck
I like the ML Sound Lab Mark V. It really does sound like my Mark V at home if I run them both through the same IR.
Tonex sounds flat to me. I rarely use it anymore.
Jon hope you’re good man! I saw where Ownhammer just added a scumback to the rock box I’ve got to grab that I’ve always wanted to try those speakers. The website is not working. Do you know anything about this?
The server is down, completely out of their hands... it's a matter of waiting until the server is back up.
@@SonicDriveStudio ok good to know. Thanks for the reply. I’m just dying to get that new rock box pack! These IRs are just so incredible! It’s crazy how they make the York audio stuff sound and feel fake in comparison. I don’t know how York or anyone else is gonna compete with these!