My sensei had us doing leg grabs in randori for first time today . He's an ex Olympian and feels there's a chance of leg grabs coming back in the future and wants the competitive guys and girls ready.
Yes, it would be wonderful for Peter to be recognized. I am a 54 year old green belt and 15 year old BJJ veteran, I have won BJJ masters world twice. I love judo so much however it is very difficult to find a judo program that has curriculum! My heart aches for judo.
Our dojo has combined judo, bjj and catch wrestling. The general approach is in line with freestyle judo rules. We also take part in a variety of grappling tournaments. I'm glad to hear that attitude is returning.
Listening to this during work makes me interested to continue my judo journey. I'm a BJJ purple belt, I studied abroad in Hungary and learned judo because the university provided it. Needless to say, I got hooked because I really want to improve my takedown skill because it needs more work. After graduating, I slowly adapt the judo game to my bjj and even got first place at a local tournament.
Hell yeah. This is an awesome episode. As long as it doesn’t become bent over judo. Also, Peter is just as important to the Shintaro Higashi show, so, yes, put your name on it. You're important to the judo community. And totally right about LA 2028: The US needs to bring their A-game, and America has great potential from your wrestlers and BJJ scenes. That’s your style. Cheering you guys on from Canada.
I have already talked about leg grabs in my club and with some poeple from a different club and everyone agreed that the rule like it is in Japan now is awsome. The fact that you need to first have a grip on the upper body is a great restriction because it eliminates conventional dives for the legs while also giving the option to grab the leg to either finish the throw you are attempting or do a traditional kata-guruma. I believe this rule gives way more options and variety to judo competitions and i think throws like the modern Kata-Guruma are not going to disappear. So basicly i would love to see this rule implemented internationally and i think it would be a great addition to judo competition
The exact reason Judo doesn't do well in the US, and BJJ has taken off. To get the full benefits of Judo, you first have to lose ego. Then you can learn.
As a Sensei, I am excited the leg grabs are coming back. This move will be taking Judo back to it's roots and a martial art. I believe without leg grabs Judo has began more of a sport.
Just started judo last spring. I had 2 years of experience from BJJ, but due to lack of tachi-waza in brazilian jujutsu i felt like judo would be the better option as an all-around martial art. My only disappointment so far has been that even in our dojo you dont grab a leg whilst standing. Hopefully this echoes in dojos around the world and we can start attacking legs.
I completely agree. There are many chances for guys in school to try new sport by joining teams in schools or affiliated clubs. But most sport in schools are ones that have a college pathway, since most US colleges don’t have a judo team it isn’t seem as a sport that can provide a future for students.
Title idea: P.S. Talk Judo P and S stand for Peter and Shintaro. Like a little play on p.s. as in post scriptum. Also fits cause this is the kind of judo talk that wouldnt happen (at all or in this detail) during class 😊
I think there's a lot of potential to tap into groups that haven't normally watched Judo as a spectator sport, there's something in the air the past couple years. Mma fans, the bjj community, martial arts youtube (technique videos, Judo vs [x] other martial art videos, etc.) are interested. I'm not sure all the people interested are aware of JudoTV though. For as much effort has been put into social media and marketing I think more can be done there.
Maybe it is unpopular opinion but i started judo when the leg grab had been banned so the leg grab will be something new to learn. So i am happy with judo as what it is now and not looking forward to the leg grab
You won't find things to be too different. No grip range will be a new place... but just sprawl and you'll be fine. Some throws like Uchimata will need to be done more carefully. But otherwise just having good grips goes a long way to denying leg attacks. The better judoka will still prevail. Leg grabs do not often lead to waza-ari or ippon.
Great video! But It seems to me what the US has been missing is the strong primary school to secondary school judo pipeline, which so many other countries have. My own daughter has dropped out of judo 😢 because there’s no other girls her age to train with. This is a serious challenge for US judo.
For Olympic Taekwondo it seems that it's laid out in a similar hierarchy to Judo. Our style is 국기원 태권도 / 國技院 跆拳道 Kukkiwon Taekwondo. As an official sport of the Summer Olympic Games our International Federation is World Taekwondo (formerly World Taekwondo Federation). From there we have National Member Associations (Taekwondo Canada, USA Taekwondo, etc.) but the NMA for Korea, Korea Taekwondo Association, is where WT tends to test out rule changes which they then later roll out to the rest of the world or not. WT tends to alter the rules to be more exciting as we enter the 1st year of a new Olympiad, so I'm anticipating some changes in the first quarter of 2025.
I can understand why they banned the leg grabs, but it can be seriously annoying at times. My daughter often gets penalised for reaching below the belt as she often has the hight advantage and when reaching over someone’s back she often goes too low.
I primarily do Gi JJ and after 5-6 years of training and competing, I realized this starting on the knees is total BS! Now when it's time to roll, I start standing none of this on your knees junk. Because of standing I have fallen head over heals with Judo, I don't even care for JJ anymore. I literally travel around to different JJ academies just so I could practice my Judo.
@@jonmielke6781 No, wrestling is it's own ruleset. I guess it would be catch wrestling more or less, but still different from standard folk or freestyle
Recently I ran into one of those Judo elitist that you were talking about. That and some other weird stuff, they lost a good student as I was looking to train there regularly. Sorry but Judo lost one to BJJ. Though I'll keep working on my Judo+ anytime we start from standing.
Sambo is wrestling and Judo yes, but Judo has submissions except for all leg attacks, neck cranks, some chokes and shoulder locks. Sambo allows a few leg locks, but no choking.
8:51 - Shintaro's take - I agree 100% - And I'll add that nobody wants to have their nuts grabbed when they turn their back to attack - because that is all this is going to turn (back) into. How many people who complain about the lack of leg attacks actually trained judo when they were legal? And the ones who did, how many of them have good judo techniques?
Maybe if we focus on the athletes and how fun it is to practice we will get more viewership, personally i dont know a single person giving a damn about judo that didnt practice it at one point in life
@@BURGAWMMA USA, UK, Australia. Like I said, the Anglosphere. English speakers, Anglosphere. I personally think BJJ has trapped the market too greatly for it. Judo will not really take it back, BJJ is simply too accessible and well marketed.
Not an IJF fan! They ruined Judo. Even in the local circuits, you’ll have coaches yelling out to the referees… “ he stepped out of bounds”…” the belt it’s undone” … nothing with skills. They wanna win with Shidos. At least in Brazilian jiu-jitsu the only way you’re gonna win or lose is with skills. Points or submission. You see local coaches, wanting to win by any way they could. The rules are so restrictive.
@@kanucks9 depends on the tournaments. But at the end of the day, you’re not gonna lose because your foot went out of bounds and the other side makes a big deal out of it in Bjj. IBJJF deals with advantages. The other leagues don’t.
Imagine the consequences if IJF went heads up with Kodokan and All Japan. If the Japanese for example out of protest left the IJF tournaments, I think the world would laugh at IJF. I struggle to think that someone in the world didn't consider Japan the Mecca of judo. Sure IJF can run the business but... There's no way the situation is comparable to Russia. Russia is definitely a huge judo country, but there was insane political pressure, partially regarding human rights and modern diplomatics (although people might ask how is Israel allowed to participate in the same light). For Japan it would only be authority headbutting by the board, not by judo community and nations for any pressing reason. And nobody thinks Russia is a foundational judo country. Imagine the ridicule when Japanese "IJF" athletes were winning tournaments left, right and center and underlining how childish and weak IJF's move was. From what under the table sources have hinted to some content creators like Judo Highlights and Chadi, it seems like IJF might be following Japan but in a less cool way. Like needing to execute a technique before grabbing the leg as a finisher. So you wouldn't still be able to do some classic cool techniques like the Japanese rules allow. But you could still do that ankle pick finish for ouchi/kouchi. I think Japan just nailed how the rules should be. I hope IJF will still adjust towards that before releasing the new rule set. But if they don't, it's still a step in the right direction. I love that Peter mentioned people who complain about judo being ruined for the sake of complaining. Because I've been wondering and I can't see those people coming back to dojos now that leg grabbing returns. They claimed they stopped because judo was ruined, but I bet there was something else. Because who stops practicing judo recreationally altogether just because part of it is not in IJF tournaments. That's ridiculous. They also vouch for martial art judo being real judo. And yet they never talk about striking in judo despite kata self-defense having striking. Etc. It's just running mouth, yapping, it has no dedication or motivation or commitment to the words behind it. Personally I just really, really want to see another one of those somersault kata gurumas like in some Grappler Kingdom's compilation video. It looked so nuts and impressive. But also safe oddly enough. A lot of the leg grab ban compilation video's throws looked so athletic and powerful, also by Grappler Kingdom. Just the extra assistance from grabbing the leg to finish a lift off or to stop the opponent from spinning to their side does so much in that perspective. And no longer shidos for grabbing accidentally below the belt. But what would actually be interesting is if they limited or banned drop techniques i.e. drop seoi nage. Funnily enough, we've been doing this warm up at my club for a good while where first round we do high grip like behind the neck/lapel, second round behind the back or over the shoulders and third round grabbing behind the knees. And then we modified it to one hand on gi and the other grabbing behind the knee/leg in general. People have already started learning nuances in leg grab gripping dynamics from the warm up. And despite my instructor being maybe 30yo, his go to technique has been that ouchi/kouchi ankle pick finish. Also last week we practiced some ashi waza and tai otoshi with no-gi grips (with gi on) because he saw one of us have friendly sparring with his freestyle wrestler friends after our training and wanted to give him some tools and practice for that. The olympics are just so stupid in management sense these days. Of course they need to make it somewhat of a business because it's such a negative thing and so few want to invest organising the event. But like if they chopped judo they could finally increase swimming events up to 30-40. It's also fascinating to me how US struggles to get athletes in the olympic judo. Like they just got two medalists in freaking weightlifting that has been "dead" in the US after crossfit became a thing. While there are so many phenomenal ex-olympic judokas and judo coaches in the US. "There's this singular grappling coming together" Japanese jujutsu. If you make it very injurious and bloody, borderline lethal, preferentially also striking, no gi and trashtalking, the American audience will love it and so many Rambos are gonna start doing judo.
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Yes to adding Peter to the Logo!😊
The people want more Peter :)
@@Fallout-pv5lr Let's bring another Peter!
My sensei had us doing leg grabs in randori for first time today . He's an ex Olympian and feels there's a chance of leg grabs coming back in the future and wants the competitive guys and girls ready.
Same here at my club. I’m a white belt so I’m excited to be learning this from the beginning
@@theprocess1993 you get a LEG up hee hee hee
Yes, it would be wonderful for Peter to be recognized. I am a 54 year old green belt and 15 year old BJJ veteran, I have won BJJ masters world twice. I love judo so much however it is very difficult to find a judo program that has curriculum! My heart aches for judo.
Our dojo has combined judo, bjj and catch wrestling. The general approach is in line with freestyle judo rules. We also take part in a variety of grappling tournaments. I'm glad to hear that attitude is returning.
The podcast episode we've been waiting for
Judo should have leg grabs to make it way more exciting 👍❗️
Not really no. If you hate the Shido game, then leg grabs will make it worse unless they're vigilant about bullshit.
I never stopped doing leg grabs at my gym. I did made the mistake of teaching the throw first then drill as a counter
Insightful info from Shintaro
Listening to this during work makes me interested to continue my judo journey. I'm a BJJ purple belt, I studied abroad in Hungary and learned judo because the university provided it.
Needless to say, I got hooked because I really want to improve my takedown skill because it needs more work. After graduating, I slowly adapt the judo game to my bjj and even got first place at a local tournament.
Hell yeah. This is an awesome episode. As long as it doesn’t become bent over judo. Also, Peter is just as important to the Shintaro Higashi show, so, yes, put your name on it. You're important to the judo community.
And totally right about LA 2028: The US needs to bring their A-game, and America has great potential from your wrestlers and BJJ scenes. That’s your style. Cheering you guys on from Canada.
Glad the leg grabs are coming back. I would be down to go if I see a leg grab Judo seminar pop up nearby
Love the drilling ideas! Thank you Shintaro!
Peter should 100% be on the logo. Shintaro's great as the face of the show but Peter's just as integral IMO!
I have already talked about leg grabs in my club and with some poeple from a different club and everyone agreed that the rule like it is in Japan now is awsome. The fact that you need to first have a grip on the upper body is a great restriction because it eliminates conventional dives for the legs while also giving the option to grab the leg to either finish the throw you are attempting or do a traditional kata-guruma.
I believe this rule gives way more options and variety to judo competitions and i think throws like the modern Kata-Guruma are not going to disappear.
So basicly i would love to see this rule implemented internationally and i think it would be a great addition to judo competition
The exact reason Judo doesn't do well in the US, and BJJ has taken off. To get the full benefits of Judo, you first have to lose ego. Then you can learn.
And not enough schools
As a Sensei, I am excited the leg grabs are coming back. This move will be taking Judo back to it's roots and a martial art. I believe without leg grabs Judo has began more of a sport.
When I first started Judo I learned Leg Grabs & Throws. Learned Korean Style 유두
The approach of putting in leg grabs just for the U.S market never came into my mind but makes a huge sense.
An awful lot of the blackbelt judoka in my country are also training in a jiujitsu club. I know quite a few with a high degree in both disciplines.
I am in judo and my sister is in judo
I like judo
This is huge!
Just started judo last spring. I had 2 years of experience from BJJ, but due to lack of tachi-waza in brazilian jujutsu i felt like judo would be the better option as an all-around martial art. My only disappointment so far has been that even in our dojo you dont grab a leg whilst standing. Hopefully this echoes in dojos around the world and we can start attacking legs.
Please add Peter to the logo. We love him.
Judo is not marketized in the US because unlike wrestling, Judo students cannot earn scholarship.
Is what I heard from an american.
I completely agree. There are many chances for guys in school to try new sport by joining teams in schools or affiliated clubs. But most sport in schools are ones that have a college pathway, since most US colleges don’t have a judo team it isn’t seem as a sport that can provide a future for students.
Title idea: P.S. Talk Judo
P and S stand for Peter and Shintaro. Like a little play on p.s. as in post scriptum. Also fits cause this is the kind of judo talk that wouldnt happen (at all or in this detail) during class 😊
I think there's a lot of potential to tap into groups that haven't normally watched Judo as a spectator sport, there's something in the air the past couple years.
Mma fans, the bjj community, martial arts youtube (technique videos, Judo vs [x] other martial art videos, etc.) are interested. I'm not sure all the people interested are aware of JudoTV though. For as much effort has been put into social media and marketing I think more can be done there.
Thank the Lord, as I love leg grabs. It's a huge strength of mine. I'm finally going to make the Olympic team 😅😅
Maybe it is unpopular opinion but i started judo when the leg grab had been banned so the leg grab will be something new to learn. So i am happy with judo as what it is now and not looking forward to the leg grab
You won't find things to be too different. No grip range will be a new place... but just sprawl and you'll be fine. Some throws like Uchimata will need to be done more carefully. But otherwise just having good grips goes a long way to denying leg attacks.
The better judoka will still prevail. Leg grabs do not often lead to waza-ari or ippon.
Great video! But It seems to me what the US has been missing is the strong primary school to secondary school judo pipeline, which so many other countries have. My own daughter has dropped out of judo 😢 because there’s no other girls her age to train with. This is a serious challenge for US judo.
For Olympic Taekwondo it seems that it's laid out in a similar hierarchy to Judo.
Our style is 국기원 태권도 / 國技院 跆拳道 Kukkiwon Taekwondo. As an official sport of the Summer Olympic Games our International Federation is World Taekwondo (formerly World Taekwondo Federation). From there we have National Member Associations (Taekwondo Canada, USA Taekwondo, etc.) but the NMA for Korea, Korea Taekwondo Association, is where WT tends to test out rule changes which they then later roll out to the rest of the world or not.
WT tends to alter the rules to be more exciting as we enter the 1st year of a new Olympiad, so I'm anticipating some changes in the first quarter of 2025.
I can understand why they banned the leg grabs, but it can be seriously annoying at times. My daughter often gets penalised for reaching below the belt as she often has the hight advantage and when reaching over someone’s back she often goes too low.
Go Peter
50 years old next Summer. Coming back! 😂
Shintaro spoken like a true businesses man lol why doesn’t he apply for a seat in the governing body of Judo in the US?
I primarily do Gi JJ and after 5-6 years of training and competing, I realized this starting on the knees is total BS! Now when it's time to roll, I start standing none of this on your knees junk. Because of standing I have fallen head over heals with Judo, I don't even care for JJ anymore. I literally travel around to different JJ academies just so I could practice my Judo.
Wow it didn't take long to go viral with these new rules
No gi judo with leg grabs...I'd sign up instantly
Cool! But then it’s just wrestling?
@@jonmielke6781"No gi Judo with leg grabs is just wrestling"? Only if it is catch as catch can.
Wrestling does not allows submissions, does it?
@@jonmielke6781 No, wrestling is it's own ruleset. I guess it would be catch wrestling more or less, but still different from standard folk or freestyle
We have it
Go find BJJ then, its got much of what you want.
Ok, is it only in Japan??
What was the name of the "Most complete" grappler in his 50s Shintaro mentioned near the end
Shannon Sofield 😉
Maybe the real trio for Judo is Judo/BJJ/Sport Sambo? 👀
Recently I ran into one of those Judo elitist that you were talking about. That and some other weird stuff, they lost a good student as I was looking to train there regularly. Sorry but Judo lost one to BJJ. Though I'll keep working on my Judo+ anytime we start from standing.
I would like to see Peter on the logo
Sí, por favor, que vuelva el morote gari y el kata guruma real.
I have almost no knowledge or experience of grappling, but doesn’t sport sambo integrate wrestling, judo throws, and submissions?
Sambo is wrestling and Judo yes, but Judo has submissions except for all leg attacks, neck cranks, some chokes and shoulder locks. Sambo allows a few leg locks, but no choking.
Te garuma baby!
26:14 my man knows judo community 🤣
Are you both showing your watches in this episode 😂
"its a GOOSE Peter" 😃😅😂
8:51 - Shintaro's take - I agree 100% - And I'll add that nobody wants to have their nuts grabbed when they turn their back to attack - because that is all this is going to turn (back) into.
How many people who complain about the lack of leg attacks actually trained judo when they were legal? And the ones who did, how many of them have good judo techniques?
Most and most to your questions.
It was the Japanese that originally called for leg grabs to be banned!
que les prises aux jambes reviennent et vite svp
Maybe if we focus on the athletes and how fun it is to practice we will get more viewership, personally i dont know a single person giving a damn about judo that didnt practice it at one point in life
Hi
JUDO could easly corner the grappling market however it won't
It kinda do though. Outside of the Anglosphere, its a huge sport.
@@TheNEOverse yeah just not in the USA
@@BURGAWMMA USA, UK, Australia. Like I said, the Anglosphere. English speakers, Anglosphere.
I personally think BJJ has trapped the market too greatly for it. Judo will not really take it back, BJJ is simply too accessible and well marketed.
Прям много шансов на это?
we got leg grabs back in judo before gta 6🤦
Judo needs leg grabs, step out shido, minor scores and a kosen/giless divisions
Not an IJF fan! They ruined Judo. Even in the local circuits, you’ll have coaches yelling out to the referees… “ he stepped out of bounds”…” the belt it’s undone” … nothing with skills. They wanna win with Shidos. At least in Brazilian jiu-jitsu the only way you’re gonna win or lose is with skills. Points or submission. You see local coaches, wanting to win by any way they could. The rules are so restrictive.
Plenty of stalling with an advantage in BJJ.
But point taken.
I would agree that it’s not great when local tournaments abide by the same rules. It’s not fun.
No grappling sport or any combat sport is free from bullshit. Judo is no exception.
@@kanucks9 depends on the tournaments. But at the end of the day, you’re not gonna lose because your foot went out of bounds and the other side makes a big deal out of it in Bjj. IBJJF deals with advantages. The other leagues don’t.
Imagine the consequences if IJF went heads up with Kodokan and All Japan. If the Japanese for example out of protest left the IJF tournaments, I think the world would laugh at IJF. I struggle to think that someone in the world didn't consider Japan the Mecca of judo. Sure IJF can run the business but... There's no way the situation is comparable to Russia. Russia is definitely a huge judo country, but there was insane political pressure, partially regarding human rights and modern diplomatics (although people might ask how is Israel allowed to participate in the same light). For Japan it would only be authority headbutting by the board, not by judo community and nations for any pressing reason. And nobody thinks Russia is a foundational judo country. Imagine the ridicule when Japanese "IJF" athletes were winning tournaments left, right and center and underlining how childish and weak IJF's move was.
From what under the table sources have hinted to some content creators like Judo Highlights and Chadi, it seems like IJF might be following Japan but in a less cool way. Like needing to execute a technique before grabbing the leg as a finisher. So you wouldn't still be able to do some classic cool techniques like the Japanese rules allow. But you could still do that ankle pick finish for ouchi/kouchi. I think Japan just nailed how the rules should be. I hope IJF will still adjust towards that before releasing the new rule set. But if they don't, it's still a step in the right direction.
I love that Peter mentioned people who complain about judo being ruined for the sake of complaining. Because I've been wondering and I can't see those people coming back to dojos now that leg grabbing returns. They claimed they stopped because judo was ruined, but I bet there was something else. Because who stops practicing judo recreationally altogether just because part of it is not in IJF tournaments. That's ridiculous. They also vouch for martial art judo being real judo. And yet they never talk about striking in judo despite kata self-defense having striking. Etc. It's just running mouth, yapping, it has no dedication or motivation or commitment to the words behind it.
Personally I just really, really want to see another one of those somersault kata gurumas like in some Grappler Kingdom's compilation video. It looked so nuts and impressive. But also safe oddly enough. A lot of the leg grab ban compilation video's throws looked so athletic and powerful, also by Grappler Kingdom. Just the extra assistance from grabbing the leg to finish a lift off or to stop the opponent from spinning to their side does so much in that perspective. And no longer shidos for grabbing accidentally below the belt. But what would actually be interesting is if they limited or banned drop techniques i.e. drop seoi nage.
Funnily enough, we've been doing this warm up at my club for a good while where first round we do high grip like behind the neck/lapel, second round behind the back or over the shoulders and third round grabbing behind the knees. And then we modified it to one hand on gi and the other grabbing behind the knee/leg in general. People have already started learning nuances in leg grab gripping dynamics from the warm up. And despite my instructor being maybe 30yo, his go to technique has been that ouchi/kouchi ankle pick finish. Also last week we practiced some ashi waza and tai otoshi with no-gi grips (with gi on) because he saw one of us have friendly sparring with his freestyle wrestler friends after our training and wanted to give him some tools and practice for that.
The olympics are just so stupid in management sense these days. Of course they need to make it somewhat of a business because it's such a negative thing and so few want to invest organising the event. But like if they chopped judo they could finally increase swimming events up to 30-40.
It's also fascinating to me how US struggles to get athletes in the olympic judo. Like they just got two medalists in freaking weightlifting that has been "dead" in the US after crossfit became a thing. While there are so many phenomenal ex-olympic judokas and judo coaches in the US.
"There's this singular grappling coming together" Japanese jujutsu. If you make it very injurious and bloody, borderline lethal, preferentially also striking, no gi and trashtalking, the American audience will love it and so many Rambos are gonna start doing judo.
How is Israel AND the United States allowed to compete in any competition?
Imagine NO GI JUDO SCENE 😮
Sign me up
no thanks
We have it
We need to popularize no-gi judo
Many try, but there's no market for it.
@@TheNEOverse if *many* do then there should be a market. Just hasn’t been done correctly yet imo (marketing-wise)
First
I shouldn't come back
Aikido has lots of 30-50 year olds practicing. And they do it without any scholastic or government funding. Can Judo learn anything from Aikido?
Aikido also sucks at fighting.
Russia shoulddn't have even been banned.