Million Dollar Deal with USA Judo - Jimmy Pedro | The Shintaro Higashi Show

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

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  • @TheGunnyBadger03xx
    @TheGunnyBadger03xx 10 дней назад +13

    People talk a lot of trash about Jimmy and USA Judo, but he's really pushing to organize and grow the sport here in the US. Most everyone dragging his name through the mud or questioning his motives have barely done anything in the sport or to give back.

  • @Fitz2393
    @Fitz2393 10 дней назад +13

    I really appreciate what you are doing in terms of letting more people know about the inner workings of organized judo in the US.

  • @estogaza5827
    @estogaza5827 10 дней назад +7

    I finally listened to whole thing. Love towards the end. “I hear complaints about Judo players making money and how it’s against the bylaws. Well then the bylaws need to change!” lol. Awesome. Straight forward. Honest. Amazing. Jimmy is a leader.

  • @fromsamuraitoscience7184
    @fromsamuraitoscience7184 9 дней назад +2

    Not from the US, but as a judo coach and someone with a degree in movement education I think any country can benefit from the way Jimmy coaches and builds systems

  • @estogaza5827
    @estogaza5827 10 дней назад +24

    People can make accusations like Jimmy wants dollars but show me another candidate who has a systematic plan to massively expand Judo. You can be a stickler for bylaws and be a lawyer, that’s fine, but we need someone to build a SYSTEM of American Judo. From A to Z. From toddler to Olympics. There needs to be a funnel they can hop in. Coaches at all levels that play a role. And tactics for 2028 specifically.

    • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
      @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 10 дней назад +1

      nothing wrong with wanting to get some greenbacks. jimmy deserves to be comfortable

    • @JudoHighlights2015
      @JudoHighlights2015 10 дней назад +2

      From what I heard, Jimmy is comfortable. Doesn’t his dojo have hundreds of paying members?

    • @JudoHighlights2015
      @JudoHighlights2015 10 дней назад +2

      Not to mention Fuji Mats

    • @maxraz-liebman512
      @maxraz-liebman512 10 дней назад

      The problem is that if a board members have conflicts of interest, the organisation could be shut down by the government, at least that was Nicole’s point

    • @JudoHighlights2015
      @JudoHighlights2015 10 дней назад +1

      @@maxraz-liebman512 Just remove all conflicts of interest then. He's obviously the right person for the job. Him or Travis Stevens

  • @adrianarroyo937
    @adrianarroyo937 3 дня назад

    I don't currently train judo, nor I'm from the USA, but I would like to vote for Jimmy. A rising tide lifts all boats, and Jimmy does sure looks like a rising tide

  • @kennethokeefebrake8415
    @kennethokeefebrake8415 10 дней назад +5

    Very exciting conversation shintaro. I like Jimmy and his message sounds very familiar ;)

  • @KenChi-b5e
    @KenChi-b5e 10 дней назад +4

    Olympic judo is only a Dream for a handfull of Athlets

  • @PerHamrin
    @PerHamrin 10 дней назад +2

    hi, i really like this kind of content in addition to the reglar stuff. as a non american it is really interesting.
    i have a piece of feedback on some of your recent thumbnails for this video as well as a few other recent. you have the red bar at the bottom om the thumbnails, which is confusingly similar to the played progress being full. so for a while i though i already watched this.
    maybe or maybe not this is useful for you, but it is useful for me if this would change so i do not miss interesting content.
    best regards!

  • @rns7426
    @rns7426 9 дней назад +1

    A judo coach in school?
    I’d do it!

  • @counterhit121
    @counterhit121 10 дней назад +2

    Good to hear Jimmy's ideas. Most of them seem sensible, but the one about tying board membership to financial commitments seems like a real slippery slope. It's basically one step away from just having board seats for sale. Revisiting the bylaws is a solid one though, and maybe something that should just be done automatically every 3-5 years or something.

  • @torrinmaag5331
    @torrinmaag5331 10 дней назад +1

    I wish there was more reference to Stout's criticism and the proper running of an organization in this episode

  • @jiujitsuclub818
    @jiujitsuclub818 2 дня назад

    Responding to Jimmy Pedro 8:46 about jiu-jitsu blowing up. He’s absolutely right. I think he’s on the right path based on other interviews that I’ve seen on how to blow up Judo … If Judo or some type of charismatic Judo promoter can hire a company like flow grappling or something similar to that… have a big event planned where Judo players are gonna be the stars… but in inviting wrestlers and BJJ players all grappler invited. Making the rules set so that if favors takedowns not butt scooting. You can butt scoot, but it’s gonna cost you points. Be creative like Craig Jones. It can be done, but just in a Judo flip version. I think Jimmy Pedro is on the right track. We just need that one charismatic promoter to unite the Judo world in the United States. There’s already a lot of Judo players that are integrated in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and vice versa. Great podcast.

  • @tommyfresh3046
    @tommyfresh3046 9 дней назад

    The UK needs Jimmy to help Neil Adams with promoting judo here, the average person has no idea how athletic judo players are

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi 10 дней назад

    Is it just me or does Pedro lift everyone around him? It seems like people who are in his area of effect become successful in one way or another. And he's so nice but you can tell he had that really mean competitor inside him one time when he's so confidently straight to the point in many ways. And very smart, the self-reflection to be able to say "that's no longer my place" and move on and think in the bigger picture for US judo, the transition plan. Who even thinks about that instead of doing what they personally like and thinking about how they can have personal progress? Except he did say he's reached his coaching goals which probably helps to get perspective.
    An important part when he talks about becoming specialised to one age group coaching is the communication and how he mentioned in the beginning, professionalising the coaching. It's a sure way to an even bigger mess when there's no clear progress, standard and method for the big picture and you get kids who have been taught with a completely different philosophy. Which is what often happens in unorganised situations, that you're just given a random bunch of whatever you would have, not semi consistent material that you know the basics of how it functions.
    I really like the idea he proposes to have a sort of curriculum to different level professional coaches. Like doing high school, trade school, college, university degrees depending on which level you want to act in your chosen field. It's not a bad thing if someone hobbyist founds a gym for pastime activity, but if you have a universally agreed upon school (not just random fitness online degree or something that's worth one youtube video viewing) as your merit to present that you're part of the "official" system. That's what makes it legit professional. I just love the idea of teaching teaching to all the gyms. Often times judo seminars are about specific techniques. I haven't seen a seminar about how to coach. I don't think just about anyone on judo world has pedagogical degree or sports science/s&c degree. So they are missing a big part of actually transferring their knowledge. In that way Shintaro himself is different and much more complete coach than most, and it shows in the ways how he doesn't teach judo how it's always been taught but has developed his own way of teaching that follows some understood methods of how to be effective and have progress. If you have national level federation branching downwards with education on how to actually coach and structure training, that will have a massive effect on the material that is funneled upwards as the kids grow.
    The way Jimmy talks about how to teach people and grow the dojo is also very similar to how my instructor has changed things. Last year we ended up having like 3 people in the sessions, people just dropped out during school year. We had a slow start this year because we missed this uni sports org beginner courses thing, but we still managed to attract people (without even social media visibility, which one of the new people noted would help, meaning having content on the club's instagram account). Now we have 8 people 3x a week which is actual practice and everyone is sticking to it. They don't drop after missing one or two sessions or when things get busy, they return as they can. Because the structure my instructor now has suits everyone progressing every class, even if they can't progress as much as when they'd attend all the sessions. And it works when we have beginners and advanced (white belts in the beginner class vs the rest) and the belt color doesn't matter that much in the training, everyone is still learning effective skills that aren't taught in the big clubs. Drills that teach doing judo. A bit similar to what Shintaro has been showing lately. We do no randori for now, we are building up to skills that would eventually become randori like gripping, moving the partner or sensing their resistance, transitioning from one throw to another, those things that are essential in free practice to have an idea for what you want to do and that most people are missing until a long time of just figuring things out by themself. Potentially eventually the advanced class will do randori as the less advanced will practice those skills next to each other. And we do very little full throws, like split to one week of two throwing techniques without throwing, one week throwing techniques with throwing among other drills, because throwing is really heavy, it quickly makes people skip one or two of the weekly sessions if you throw a lot in every session. And it means you can't train much at the gym either if you throw all the time if you're just an average recreational judoka. Similarly at the moment we know the drills in the advanced class so we can go into practicing them without the instructor as he just shows what we're practicing today, and he can focus on helping the beginners individually or in smaller groups with more basic things that require more attention. Everyone feels that they're personally guided and get attention and everyone teaches their partner when they know something more, the progress feels really fast when I watch people in the class, like I've never seen people catch on so quickly to doing something that looks judo instead of isolated technique practice or random wrestling. Actually in Finland we have "Basics of teaching judo" course for green or blue belt. There's like 3 courses in different topics for different belts. That kind of concept is easy to expand.
    And a huge fan of Jimmy mentioning "you need to know S&C now" like I think that should be in the toolkit of literally any sport coach. Just recently I heard that some American football coach caused a rhabdomyolysis to like the whole team, how is that possible in this day and age when you can get decent basic education from RUclips in only some hours, that should never happen. Like how can you be a sport coach without an understanding of S&C, how come I hear a ton of athletes are just told to increase their mass/muscle mass in the offseason and left to their own devices? That's not professional to me. Apparently it happens even in big sports and results in even the pros doing the silliest workouts and prospering because they're genetic freaks, despite the training they do, not because of it. And judo in particular has that issue if you look up gym videos for judo in RUclips. I think the only decent one you can find is John Jayne's personal vlogging about his olympic lifting/powerlifting training for judo. And Sika Strength S&C coaches reviewing Shohei Ono's training or giving tips to grapplers in general. But judo suffers from the same issue as bjj and mma and that group where there's a ton of hobbyists sharing information and silly overly sport specific exercises that aren't effective or efficient, because pros have their own S&C coaches and don't do media much. In bjj and mma there's self-coached or people having a random coach that has no understanding of the sport and make the weirdest workout structures with the weirdest exercises as if they never even studied exercise science or had a good S&C course, and you see that in media and people take that as "so that's how you train for grappling, that's the best dude in that thing so he knows". And there's even that traditional aspect where martial arts fans of judo look at 60 year old S&C when they didn't have the resources or understanding to do gym training so they did by with what they had, and people think that's the optimal training for a world class athlete. Way different from world class judokas and wrestlers training, naturally because being an Olympic sport brings you to the gravitational effect of state level organised sports where you need the best provable results so you get resources as well. Shoutouts to Shintaro showing a couple of lifts on his channel and talking a bit about the S&C, but I think there should be a whole episode or series of talking about judo S&C in a way that is applicable to hobbyists/"self-coached" amateur/semi-professional athletes as well.

    • @kevionrogers2605
      @kevionrogers2605 4 дня назад

      It was a Lacrosse team that was doing a conditioning session by an alumnus who had just completed navy seal training.

  • @jasonredpill7473
    @jasonredpill7473 10 дней назад +2

    2028 LA Olympics, USA judokas will have 0 golds guarantee. Board members should follow the rules (profiting) before deciding to be a board member. I agreed about increasing funding of staff members as long as they can generate revenue and results, if not they get voted out.

  • @josephshinkle49
    @josephshinkle49 9 дней назад +1

    USA judo is basically dead, our team last year didn't even field all the weight classes, intervention is desperately needed!!

  • @HahnJames
    @HahnJames 10 дней назад +1

    How is USA Judo working with the other two judo organizations in the U.S., the USJA and the USJF to promote judo around the country in the communities, in the schools, in the universities and so on to grow judo in the way that Jimmy Pedro was talking about here?

    • @jaybobo8941
      @jaybobo8941 10 дней назад +1

      The USA Judo board needs to expand and fold the USJA and USJF in. A unified federation is better than a fragmented system. A lot can be learned from how judo is managed in other countries but also NCAA, US Soccer, NBA, etc.

  • @cbroo69
    @cbroo69 10 дней назад

    Im 30 mins in and Jimmy hasn't blinked. Can anyone tell me if he does before the end of the interview?

  • @fromsamuraitoscience7184
    @fromsamuraitoscience7184 9 дней назад

    IJF has international coaching courses also...

  • @KenChi-b5e
    @KenChi-b5e 9 дней назад

    Go for the ijf judo needs usa for world judo

  • @KenChi-b5e
    @KenChi-b5e 10 дней назад

    My coach use to say look at the american judo they are so fare in the race behind they think they are first

  • @pedroalejandrochaconsanche2242
    @pedroalejandrochaconsanche2242 10 дней назад +5

    The first one you have to talk to is the International Judo Federation, which does not allow Judo content creators to upload fights every time, it puts copyright on you and sues you for it, it is disrespectful that the International Judo Federation does not let you put fights from tournaments on your page, there are fewer and fewer content creators because of them.

    • @jaybobo8941
      @jaybobo8941 10 дней назад

      That’s inaccurate. There are many judo content creators on RUclips. @JudoHighlights is one of the largest and most consistent.

    • @JudoHighlights2015
      @JudoHighlights2015 10 дней назад +2

      @@jaybobo8941yeah what’s this guy talking about

  • @larryzach7880
    @larryzach7880 7 дней назад

    The rule changes are a problem.

  • @rickfinsta2951
    @rickfinsta2951 10 дней назад +2

    We lost our best female high school athletes to wrestling. They jumped to the top of our state rankings as freshmen and they are looking at scholarships for college as juniors now. Judo can't compete with that right now and needs to.

  • @Howleebra
    @Howleebra 9 дней назад +1

    If you want to have a prayer at competing in international sports you're going to have to do what every other country did and put your game in the public school system for free instead of teaching it like a martial art with fifedom rank politics.

    • @JJDon5150
      @JJDon5150 8 дней назад

      That's easier said than done in the U.S. which has a completely different schooling and government system than most overseas countries. I don't disagree with you at all and think its a great idea. But goodluck finding a Judo instructor who also wants to teach in a school with how low teacher salaries already are. You can probably find some older, retired Judoka who would be willing to do it.

  • @ericlee1226
    @ericlee1226 10 дней назад +2

    How many Judo instructors can make a living with only teaching? on the otherhand BJJ instructor even at a blue belt can make a decent income. There is your problem my friend.

  • @Ben3420
    @Ben3420 10 дней назад +4

    Why didn’t Shintaro ask Jimmy HOW MUCH his coaching certifications would cost compared to what they cost now, how much travel would be involved, testing, etc, and compare that to what’s in place now.

  • @TNFLHT
    @TNFLHT 7 дней назад +1

    I think Judo as a whole needs to be very careful about trying to integrate to much with BJJ. Much like wrestling is becoming now the lines of what BJJ are is getting blurred. I will call it American Jiu Jutsu for the purposes here. Catch wrestling with BJJ is becoming the new standard for BJJ in America throw in that with the fact gi is dying out to no gi. If Judo goes all in on training the BJJ practitioners in America there is going to come a point where in a decade or so you will have high level concepts integrated into the curriculum of BJJ and you simple won't need Judo. I am all for the cross training but it needs to be the BJJ people coming to a Judo dojo to train not a Judo black belts setting up shop in a BJJ gym. The better option is establish Judo as the dominate stand up grappling art that can complement BJJ practitioners but something that needs to be trained individually. I know everyone in this community for the most part looks at BJJ as long lost brother or something but they are extremely established at this point and they are going to be playing for keeps in the end.

  • @soldiermedic81
    @soldiermedic81 10 дней назад +3

    now that there's incentive for him to be in charge. no thanks.

  • @Ben3420
    @Ben3420 10 дней назад +3

    Did I miss it. Did Shintaro ask if elite athletes would be required to go train at Jimmy’s regional centers?

  • @Ben3420
    @Ben3420 10 дней назад +2

    You won’t get Judo into universities beyond the club level. Title 9 would keep it out and Judo would be a non-revenue producing sport

  • @codys567
    @codys567 9 дней назад

    BJJ is competing against judo and wrestling, but it is not just the kids. So many people don't do Judo in America because leg attacks are not allowed. So many grapplers start in high school wrestling and don't go on to be college athletes, they get hurt in college, or they get a job after college with life preventing them from wrestling. So the question becomes where do these wrestlers go? They go to BJJ and they hate it because they have to learn guard pulling and things that make absolutely zero sense because BJJ is now a sport that placates to people wanting an easy soft martial art that in their opinion works (BJJ alone doesn't work for self defense). The other top countries like France, Korea, and Japan have state funding for dojos that allow them to float with little to no effort. In my opinion, Jimmy is focused on the wrong things in how to expand Judo and how to bring the American market and money into the sport. We should be arguing to bring leg attacks back, let the ground fight happen some more, and focus on allowing more grappling styles into Judo. People want a different sport besides BJJ in America, they realize the guard pulling is a joke, and they are hungry for real grappling.

    • @jonmielke6781
      @jonmielke6781 7 дней назад +1

      It does stink that leg grab techniques are not part of most judo clubs curriculum (some do teach them), but people aren’t doing judo because of a lack of certain techniques. The majority of the US population doesn’t even know what judo is, and for those that do, most don’t even compete.

    • @jonmielke6781
      @jonmielke6781 7 дней назад +1

      There is the free style judo movement that is slowly gaining momentum, and the USJA is experimenting with a new rule set for kosen judo where all grapplers can compete, so there are other areas to look into.

  • @Ben3420
    @Ben3420 10 дней назад +2

    Jimmy wants those dollars. Director of Coaching is a way for him to get at those dollars

    • @Yupppi
      @Yupppi 10 дней назад

      Sounds sensible, like money is the number one resource to build a system to produce top athletes at international level and produce interest in the sport.

  • @Ben3420
    @Ben3420 10 дней назад +2

    Pedro wants to funnel everyone through his courses to make money for himself.

    • @estogaza5827
      @estogaza5827 10 дней назад +10

      Ya well in fairness Him and Travis are why I’m in judo. They are the only ones pushing for real reform and to get judo out to the masses in systematic way. Why hasn’t there been a judo system formed to train kids and get them to the Olympics? Why is that so hard. Shintaro also plays an important role, that should be mentioned.

    • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
      @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 10 дней назад +2

      @@estogaza5827 exactly. ane what is wrong with making money anyway?

  • @Ben3420
    @Ben3420 10 дней назад +1

    You want to be an international coach, go get IJF international certification. Go to a class, demonstrating all the throws, and techniques. Take the online course.

    • @ADAM_COLLECTS
      @ADAM_COLLECTS 10 дней назад

      Is an Olympic or world medal not enough? Either having coached an individual or won it yourself? Not trying to be difficult, just asking

    • @Ben3420
      @Ben3420 10 дней назад +1

      @@ADAM_COLLECTSthat’s a very fair question. I’d say NO. Here’s why. Most people acknowledge Michael Jordan as one of the best players of all time. Then why isn’t he the best coach? Sometimes being an uber talented athlete doesn’t equate to being a successful coach. NOW, I would say that if you are an Olympic or world medalist you probably could do it and do it very well, but IMO that shouldn’t even be a consideration.

    • @milanojudo
      @milanojudo 10 дней назад +1

      ​​​@@Ben3420 There is no Michael Jordan of Judo in America because those genetic anomalies find football, basketball, etc. instead. In America if you don't know how to coach and evaluate yourself and others it's extremely hard to be any good. Have you ever been in a room with anyone from our "golden" generation, meaning Travis Stevens, Marti Malloy, Kayla, etc? Anyone who interacts with those athletes, and comes to the conclusion that they need more training in order to coach at a higher lvl, needs their head examined IMO. We don't really produce the type of freaks that can get away with perfecting one technique and gripping harder.....

    • @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511
      @ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511 10 дней назад +1

      jimmy was travis steven's coach. that is quite the resume

    • @rickfinsta2951
      @rickfinsta2951 10 дней назад +2

      You are conflating accreditation with ability and vision. Jimmy is talking about creating a roadmap for better domestic coaching after putting two Olympic golds, a silver, a bronze, and a few 7th place finished under his belt as a coach. He is the best resource we have in America and has the business acumen to back it up. I coach kids and we don't currently have systemic resources through USA Judo, excepting perhaps our access to American Judo System, to get these kids up to speed. Our head coach has national championships under his belt but he has not been a high level coach. We need help. I've got kids that want to go to the Olympics in 2032 and beyond and I can't get them there right now (and I can absolutely go through a kata style test and get certified).