Why J. Cole’s New Album Will Change Everything
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- In this video we speak about why J. Cole’s new album The Fall Off is important for his career. We discuss how his perception changed after his apology to Kendrick Lamar, what changes will be made to The Fall Off, whether or not this will be his last album and more. Are you excited for J. Cole’s The Fall Off?
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Euphoria, Not Like Us, 6 16 in LA and Like That better inform? Did you even listen to Might Delete Later?
@@HunchoDada-c6p might delete later was ass. Stfu.
Damn it felt like these guys were about to drop diss tracks at each other 😂
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That’s just what love for hiphop can do. Sometimes you have to let it go to see it as a chess game.
@@NFRPodcast Ant bout to leak his own diss track, and Lu already cooking up 11 responses. Maple leaf on maple leaf crime
😂😂😂😂
I need a We Cry Together edit of this
😂😂
Fantano vs Los pollos we cry together is amazing
I'd pay to see that lmaoooo
"Hum the FUCKING MELODY OF THE SONG"
"IT'S BEEN 72 HOURS I DON'T KNOW IT!!!"
@justhaku9240
@@DFMusic811 AND THE WAY ITS LOWKEY ON BEAT
J Cole will always be part of his eras Big 3-him, Kendrick and Drake are solidified in their spots forever. BUT, as a Cole fan now that the dust has settled, I do believe that this Fall Off album is probably the most important album of his career, or at the very minimum it's definitely the most pressure he's faced due to perception.
from the first track that album has to take me to another galaxy wen i listen to it
Definitely the most important
@@NFRPodcast NO it's 2014, and I don't even think itt's his best, it just is his most important !
Maybe his dark fantasy moment?
I hate when Mom and Dad fight 😢
who's the mom?! XD
Yoo
@@hungryutkarshant is mommy
You were adopted
If you don't wanna listen to 30 minutes of yippidy-yappidy, i got you:
Ant: If J. Cole drops album of the decade, he's on the same level as k-dot.
Lu: No
...
Thanks bro
He will never be lmfao wtf
@@krestenpikhaaropinions…. He is
@@Clashedroyalednah, he high on the list but Kendrick is a genius. I love Cole, but Kendrick is above Cole.
@@Cehesebrugreso your opinion won’t change if he drops a classic that surpasses any of kendrick’s projects?
Cole literally has songs out that show he’s a top lyricist we can’t ignore that just because he backed out of a beef, that wasn’t his beef to begin with.
@@Enneti Show me a song where Kendrick barred up the way that Cole did on Pi and Johnny P's Caddy.
@@Enneti Pi was packed with bars and not one was wasted.
@@Enneti If you think Pi wasn’t one of Cole’s best verses of all time if not arguably his best, then you just hating.
And answer his question, which kendrick verse(s) do you have over those 2?
@@Enneti And you go ahead to pick some of his overrated and mediocre stuff too lol
You’re a Kendrick stan, not a rap/hiphop fan.
It’s now very obvious.
@@Ennetiwith songs like sing about me, dying of thirst, you had to choose those?
‘THE FALL OFF’ has to be the hip-hop bible for our generation…he been working on it for six plus years
😢don't expect too much
Its gonna flop/never gonna drop
@@joaopedro.8206it’s going to be a classic
@@joaopedro.8206lol cope
J Cole is definitely in the GOAT conversation. I'm team K dot all the way but J Cole can still be the greatest you don't have to war to be great
No masterpiece albums, no unique ideas brought to the game, no influence on any subsequent relevant rappers, he's solid but GOAT of what bruh
People really acting like finding dirt on other rappers and calling them pedos makes you a better rapper. Rap beef is cool but it never decided who was the better rapper.
@@SweaterSwagg4yeo is a masterpiece. I would say 2014 is too. Imo born sinner as well
@@SweaterSwagg You just yapping crodie
@@loganlund6801heavy on 4YEO day my know about the rest
Lou ignoring rap history.. Jay-Z loses battle to Nas but drops Blueprint, Black Album and cements himself as a lot of people’s #1. We’ve literally seen it happen before.
Exactly
I just said the same thing. Kendrick hasn't been impressive since Damn and he has been rapping since...just been a little slow with releasing albums. Mr. Morale was garbage. His shit with Keem? Garbage. Now he no longer has his hatred for Drake to ride off of, so where will his inspiration come from next since now people are tossing him the crown? Will he even have that hunger anymore? He's not the great feature artist that Cole is and does not work with anyone outside of Keem..
I say if Cole drops one or two classic projects within the next year or so and continues to click up with the industry on his features then he will be able to make up ground. Cole is lyrically better and there is still ground ahead to cover.
Difference is Hov DIDNT BACK DOWN win or lose jfold did
@@r.johnson1170Mr Morale garbage lol, just say that album isn’t your bag. It’s a great album but that aside I see what you’re saying. Cole been impressing consistently since 2018 whilst Kendrick was mostly absent and I wasn’t impressed by many Dot features in that time either. Now I don’t think he needs to ride off Drake hate to deliver heat either that’s also foolish, he can still bar up for sure but I think that’s down to him choosing what music he wants to make, since all his albums have a different sound
Difference is that jay clearly lost a beef, cole just backed out when he realized it wasn't his beef. But yeah in terms of public opinion jay-z is the most obvious example of someone losing respect to gaining it all back
J. Cole showed real maturity in apologizing. He showed he cared more about being authentic than getting streams, and I will respect him for it. The Fall Off is about to be AOTY.
Stop it lol. He made a mid diss and ran, knowing kendrick would destroy him.
W pfp, love crae
@hintssabbat he only made that diss because people were pressuring him so hard. It's so out of Character all over the track. Cole wants to be the best by showing his talent and not by tearing others down. Even as someone who doesn't fuck with him that much (the weird transphobic bars on PI and a some lyrics that in total make me question him a bit much), even I can recognise this in his character. Calm down
J Cole is not an album artist. People are going to be let down again if that is seriously their ultimate expectation.
@@hintssabbat yeah it was kind of mid I'm not arguing it's good. I'm just saying I respect J Cole for backing out of something he clearly was only half-heartedly doing
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love when they argue bro said you yapping and calling me arrogant 😂
next JID album will change everything
Facts
Do y'all think he can top TFS?
@@astroh4936yea if he takes his time with the album
@@astroh4936TFS was like JID's GKMC... We know what comes after gkmc 😂
@@format9802Jid is not Kendrick. Jid is Jid.
Im a hip hop fan and I been writing music for 18 years J Cole backing out isn't a stain bro.
If Cole and Kendrick got on a track together right now Cole is washing Kendrick. J Cole is the better rapper
You’re funny
Sometimes Lou and Ant are actually saying the same thing but they go off on each other so their point sounds most dominant lol
I think in this case Ant is trying to say there’s still a road for Cole to take where he could be considered better than Kendrick and Lou is saying “absolutely not.” I agree with Lou. There is no road for him to take anymore.
@@megalamoniacalit’s actually worse than that. Ant copped out by saying Kendrick’s always been my number 1 so no matter what cole can’t be number 1. But is mad lou feels the same way for a different reason lolol.
I was hoping to find a comment addressing this 😂
ScHoolboy Q really saved Cole's career wHen He told Him to back out at Dreamville Fest
Do the apology but it's just your voice my boy.
Spectre, your half-baked comments are a joke, keep it up and and I'll turn ya to a ghost. I'll haunt you with rhymes so sick, you'll wish you had a antidote. You gon think I'm a phantom, the way I'm handing out smoke. 🚬🚬🚬
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 saved his career?
Spec I would totally watch the apology but just my voice, would be funny as shit
@@nicholasanderson9019k dot was about to kill that nigga but I think cole would end up at the number 2 song
J Cole slander online gotta stop.
Unfortunately his alter ego has been set in stone as j fold
legacy ruined
Ehh I don't mind it🤷🤣
Bro let us down to make up to kendrick dissing him first lol and sold drake out for some metro beats😂
Nah the slander will continue. Cole fumbled big time not only on the diss, but on the route he chose.
Not really, people are apologizing to Cole now (including me). Cole knew that this was deeper than just a rap contest. people NOW are understanding why he backed out. Now that Kendrick got Drake out the way i wanna see him and Cole go at it now @TrapSection
also it's crazy how we all say cole apologized but he never used the word sorry or apologize during that whole speech lol
Damn he didn’t when you think about it😂😂😂
He definitely didn’t but the internet ran with that Narrative lol
Oh come on. As a rap fan you have to understand how this works. You can even apologize without speaking. Imagine I stepped on your brand new shoes, said nothing, but bought you the exact same shoes brand new as a gesture, that's literally an apology. He apologized
THAT'S WHAT THE FUCK I'M SAYING 😂😂😂. Just like on Heaven's EP where he said "niggas threw the bronze at me" and Akademiks and other internet niggas spun it to him saying that he accepted the bronze.
He said that the diss was lame because he felt no way about Kendrick's attention seeking antics and that he hope that his audience could forgive him from straying off of the path that's he's been adamantly walking on for the past 10 years.
His choice of words could have been less meek though. Saying that he couldn't sleep the last 2 days and leaving people to interpret that it was because he was scared of Kendrick was crazy.
@@r.johnson1170All this makes sense except for characterizing Kendrick's actions as attention seeking antics lmao. Kendrick wanted smoke w Drake and that was clear from the jump.
Luca shouting at Anthony and then telling him to calm down 5 seconds later is peak nfr
I still love J. Cole he’s proven himself over the past 5 years I’m not discrediting his work all because of this battle tbh.
J. Cole was my fav rapper before this, and will be forever after it. If anything it made me realize how much pride has a hold on me and how you need to just let it go. Imo Kendrick is the greatest rapper of all time but Cole is my favorite. After The Fall Off I think Cole could become a top 10 rapper of all time
i like that you have an objective and a subjective opinion
W
same my fav rapper is j cole but kendrick is a better all time rapper
Of all time is wild
@@jfraz1992why do you have a problem with people’s personal tastes so much? Everywhere I go you’re complaining about people not liking the same music as you 😭
The FantasticHip-Hop influence is real 😂
How the FantasticHip-Hop influence will change everything...
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Do the apology but its just your voice
What does that mean?
he hates Drake more than Kendrick does 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel that if The Fall Off is a masterpiece, then the whole apology means nothing to most of the fans and the hip hop community and it won’t be a stain in his legacy but if The Fall Off is anything less than a masterpiece, the apology will always be a topic that’s brought up. But apology and beef aside, he said that this album will be like Reasonable Doubt…. To me, he put all the pressure on himself with that line alone.
He's been hyping it up for over 6 years the pressure was already there
That’s true but most rappers do that. Comparing it to arguably jay Z’s best album is something else entirely. Thats a new level of pressure and expectation. Hope he can deliver but we’ll see.
@@enterthejaa I don't know the only other albums I can think of getting hyped up for so long are like detox and that's it, the fall off is an outlier by a large margin. Even like eternal atake took 2 years and that felt like forever. I definitely would not say that most rappers hype up albums for 6+ years
Cole has a lot to adress 😂
He's gotta go fold a dress
Like what
nah only Kanye
Kendrick can win on J Cole with his catalog but can't win on the feature run
Features of Cole is a sector where even Kendrick is below him
people only grade JCole's features because his albums are not that good tho. features are not even a factor that people usually care about 😅
J Cole hasn’t lied cause nobody has ever out rapped him on a song. You don’t have to be in loved in a rap beef to prove you are the greatest. Get on a feature and see who got the better verse. Cole has proven time and time again that he’ll dominate anybody on a track.
Cole’s the only artist that would gave K Dot a run for his money. But I’m glad he stuck to his roots and continued doing him
This means absolutely nothing when he had the opportunity to do so and folded.
Lupe can for sure
SOO Hyped for the fall off
Going to be crazy
I’m with Ant 100% with his take on Cole. If J. Cole comes back and delivers strong with The Fall Off that can absolutely will keep him up there even if he backed out of the battle with Kendrick. Cole has been the most consistent and most inform artist out of him, Kendrick and Drake for the past couple of years with the Offseason, Might Delete Later (even though I got mixed thoughts on it) and the feature run he has been on. I don’t think it’s fair to downplay and lower him and his discography all because he didn’t want to battle Kendrick which you can’t blame him for what was really going on between Dot and Drake. Cole has been putting on a clinic with just endless feature verses that stole the show every time and his rapping ability is better than ever. I truly think if Cole is actually putting 110% on his penmanship for the Fall Off this album might be on par with the likes of 2014 Forest Hills Drive and 4 Your Eyez Only.
He's going to have to make an album with a balance of FHD and 4YEO. A lot of people do not like 4YEO. He needs something that's deep where he's talking his shit, but will also need some shit that will hit commercially for the casual listeners.
The day we acknowledge in the mainstream that there are more than 3 good rappers that exist is the day we move forward as a society
Facts
yeah bar for bar some unknown rappers would wash the big 3 and others but it's about accessibility
@@clkgtr12 this unfortunately
I really do like them all and have been listening to them for a long time now, but I feel like Kendrick is the only one who really is on that top tier level when it comes to pure rapping.
@@Jbuckets23 as far as mainstream rap I agree
Greatness is greatness and J Cole is that guy with much room to grow.
Hot take:
The falloff will have better lyricism than any project since illmatic
If j cole drops an album an album this that is considered a masterpiece and one of the best albums of the decade, and drops Kendrick disappears for a couple years, J cole will be the best in the game no question
everybody else: Tuesday
NFR: Chooseday
Does Cole really have to take a back seat to Kendrick after his apology?
The fact he chose not to fight might be a more noble move looking back, especially morally speaking. Ending a cycle of violence, taking after his character in “4 Your Eyez Only”.
Kendrick built a character of heighten morals on TPAB, Cole built one on 4YEO, only one of them stayed the course.
You two are extremely passionate! Love it ❤
Can’t wait for the Fall Off hopefully we get a Kendrick collab on there reflecting on these past weeks and maybe other features on it like JID, Rome Streetz and Black Thought. With Conductor Williams on the beats and Cole reflecting on all the hate and how it turned to love at the end of it all! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
1st off, great convo fellas. You made great points about the perspective around this entire situation and anticipation of the fall off.
As much as I wanted to see Cole put himself in the arena of a 1v1 due to the fact that Cole grew up in that era of hip hop, Kendrick is someone that he considers a friend. No matter what he would’ve came with in said battle, it wouldn’t have been received well due to the fact that he has nothing but love for dude.
The Fall Off and J.Cole’s position in the game is so on brand for who he’s shown us to be. The album title alone appears to sum up everything that’s transpired thus far.
Would love to see a top 10 featues of all time vid .
rick ross on devil in a new dress and kendrick on no more parties in la both top 10
@@ryandanahy08 cole jhonny p's caddy and eminem on renegade too . W take
@@Kruger_69000em on renegade is a top 3 verse from him imo
lil tjay on pop smoke mannequinn
Johnny P's Caddy (COLE X BUTCHER) is gotta be top 5
If Cole releases the album of the decade, you can't say he won't be number one just because he didn't want to take part in a beef. Of course he will
Slim dude is always in his head.
Slim dude is INSANE 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Ant should narrate a movie, that beginning was smooth af
Cole definitely rapping the best rn. Tryna erase the run he been on no one has ever been fans
Point exactly brother. He's put the artform on his back. If he didn't do features we wouldn't have had real raps on the radio and a song like "Alot" or "all my life" wouldn't exist.
@@ylgotbars4531 What you will find is that most people who are tripling down on this legacy stained narrative were either Kendrick fans (mostly) or Drake fans to begin with. They still wanted Cole to prove himself to them as if he hasn't been lyrically smoking both for the past 5 years straight. Kendrick won off of Not Like Us and because he put out Meet the Grahams right after Family Matters. One song won the audience over because it's a bop the other won the audience over because of strategy. Very little was said about punchlines or bars. Kendrick's wordplay outside of the Melly bar really wasn't mind blowing as far as wit goes.
Cole will never make more hits than Drake. No rapper will. You have to give him a crown for that, but Cole is a far better lyricist than Kendrick and I'll stand ten toes on that. There is a reason why we have records where Drake embraces rapping with Cole while Kendrick opts to sing when he's on a record with Cole.
@@ylgotbars4531 Niggas are so unappreciative. I want Cole and Drake to both take a break and see how Kendrick puts the genre on his back. Nigga is not a hitmaker and bats below average when it comes to features.
@@r.johnson1170 that is a bowl statement, but one I truly respect and can understand. I said that the best battle would’ve been Cole and Kendrick. Cole is a far superior MC to Drake, which is still no knock to Drake because Cole is a special MC.
I definitely agree with the collaborations between the two (Cole and Kendrick), always seem to lack something like Kendrick doesn’t want to rap toe to toe with J. Cole.
I’ve been telling everyone that I truly understood where J. Cole was coming from because of the mental place you have to go to win beefs nowadays and some of the smear tactics when it can’t be about the music, which I know Cole believes he’s thebest and has the stats/songs to prove it.
If anything, I hope this beef now brings us back to the bars and good music because if so, Cole could be the ultimate winner here.
@@ylgotbars4531 It's a take that I'm comfortable with. Kendrick's best bet will be to tap into the energy he has now as well as the momentum and put out an album that will complement this moment. Otherwise, I truly wonder what will happen once he finally comes off of this high (putting Drake on the mat). I think if his next project isn't received well and Cole's is then it narrows the conversation again.
You can tell who is acting out of emotions and who is acting out of logic when it comes to this whole beef thing. Anyone who doesn't think a 40 year old man stepping out of his self to cut low at a person that he is actually cool with just for public approval is wild. Anyone who can't tell the difference in Cole's participation and the other two when the record has shown that Kendrick and Drake have had a decade's worth of animosity towards each other is foolish.
You're asking a grown man who is indifferent to channel the hatred that the other two have organically towards each other on top of asking this grown man to dig around for dirt on his friend just to show that he belongs in the conversation as the greatest as if he hasn't been outrapping both as of late. This wasn't about bars, this was about out snitching on and out gossiping the other...and these are 40 year old fathers. Hip hop is still immature.
I love the friendship between you guys but that "you're just yapping at this point" and the "chill the fuck out" response had me cackling 🤣🤣
Y’all underrating tf out of Mr Morale. It’s not even comparable in quality to any Cole album. It’s not close. At all. Mr Morale is by far the best album of 2022 and shits on the Offseason.
people think offseason is better and off season is better for me though.
@@rizwanbhangar3021 literally no one thinks the offseason is better. It’s a 6/10 album with no direction or purpose, is sonically redundant, and while it does have Cole’s least offensive rapping and some of his better punchline raps, it’s a very forgettable record. Mr Morale is one of the best written albums ever.
@@Humbleasamumble i like kendrick mr morale have skips for me but off season is banger
@@rizwanbhangar3021 looking at albums as to what you can add to your playlist based on “skips” is the most brain dead way to value an album. By that logic an album with no direction, purpose and all only barely passable songs will be better to you than an album with many 10/10 tracks and maybe a couple you don’t like. It’s not a playlist, it’s an album.
@@Humbleasamumble man i want album with good songs not with deep meaning or direction bullshit
"you're just yapping at this point" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Respect to Anthony. He really knows how to set his bias aside, great open minded person.
You're being sarcastic right, never seen him get in his feelings so much
Ima say this. If The Fall Off lives up and is up there as J Cole's Best Album and gets up there with Kendricks Best Album he'll still have a Right to be Called Best Rapper Alive
Jcole will never have a TPAB or GKMC
@@Mecnedic I'ma say this. J Cole's Unreleased song JAVARI/Want You to Fly over any songs from from the 2 albums.
2014 FHD > TPAB imo
Jfold had too many pump fake barz
@@yaboycurtis1103 "Idgaf about Lyin. When I learn these N***** Fraud" 🔥😎.
Drake Battled Kendrick..... Only for his Reputation to be TARNISHED. I rather be known as J Fold then be known as a Undercover Diaper Sniffer 🥴🤷🏿♂️
@@bigdaddylocdiesel5688yea bro we gonna need to drug test you 💀
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Saw this interview of j.cole and he was saying " it took me a long time to understand you can't be the best 100% of people are not gonna agree that you're the best and i was like why are they saying that this man is better than me untill i understood Micheal will never be the best and thats insane.
I will keep saying that he didn’t back out of a battle. He backed out of an unnecessary beef cuz he doesn’t have any animosity against Kendrick.
Too late for j fold
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You don't gotta have animosity to lyrically spar with somebody. You can't be saying you the top dude in the game for years and when one of the few that's on your level challenges you then back down. It looks funny as much as some of ya'l try to downplay it.
how do you guys not have millions of subs? your love for the genre is amazing
I still don't respect it and it's not just Cole. I wouldn't respect it if Drake or Kendrick did that weak shit either. Cole still a dope MC, this doesn't take that away but it's still a wack move tho
Still my personal favorite rapper, but he cannot tap into certain themes after that. He cannot go and say again "i'm the best around, they fear me" and all that, people would not take him serious anymore, I know I would not for example
touché
Kendrick and Drake hate each other for real - Cole doesn't hate either of them. Apology was disappointing in the beginning , but I get it now. Might Delete Later still an amazing project and The Fall Off will be a classic. Still comfortably top 2 for me.
Everyone wanna be a demon till they get chipped by a throw away
Respectfully no, the album will be really good, but it’s not changing anything lets be serious 😂
So you putting Nas above Jay?
@@jojo_akay Nope. Even though Nas’s recent albums since 2020 have elevated his discography as a whole, it’s closer but I still got Hov above Nas.
@@SP2Crazy Now, you’re displaying a bit of some cognitive dissonance.
I’m genuinely curious, why do you still have Jay ahead of Nas, when Nas smoked him on the battlefield?
@@jojo_akay Hov didn’t lose the beef in my opinion, Super ugly was the most disrespectful track during the beef to me personally.
@@SP2Crazy Objectively, he lost
Otherwise, Drake fans can say the same thing about this battle
Anthony… “You’re just yapping now…”
Lou… “Shut yo whole ass up and make some drums bruh!’
I don't get how y'all mixing both arguments. If Kendrick gets on a track with Cole . Cole smokes him . He's better . I don't get how you can put an apology and pen skills in the same sentence
facts!!
😂😂😂lol
Kendrick smoked him on their Black Friday collab bro lmao.
@@ramsescano5622 there most recent Collab was American dream and Kendrick sang his way from Coles verse . Cut the shit
i love how these 2 never be like "if you like this ill also agree" they always stand on what they believe and when they talk about hip hop its like they were never friends. love the content lu and ant
I’m sorry bru but that rap beef was not the Super Bowl of the Big 3 which is irritating that you guys try to make it that way. It would be horrible if Cole’s claim to fame to take the number one spot was just through two songs in a beef against Kendrick. Let Cole try to get number 1 or claim the throne by making a generational album. Yall put Kendrick at 1 with the albums he’s put out and not through rap beef why can’t cole do the same?
The slim guy is just a nerd who doesn’t understand how this really works
I believe that J. Cole has the potential to secure the number one position in the music industry, and all he needs to do is create a track that effectively addresses the mistakes made by both parties involved. This simple task could propel him to the top of the charts and solidify his reputation as a trailblazing artist.
J Cole is not capable of ever being a better artist than Kendrick Lamar, let’s be serious
Cole fumbled the chance with that back out and that was a permanent fvck up
The fall off might go down as the greatest album of the decade and I still don’t think that’ll be enough. KDOT has GKMC, TPAB and DAMN.
@@vicstone8817damn his best GKMC solid TPAB garbage
🧢 he has been for a long time
JCole's best is not better than Kendricks worst. JCole is just not that guy. I dont understand why his fans are this weird abt it.
Yea, j cole is goated
Might Delete Later came and went... so not overly confident about this.
It was a surprise drop and just a mixtape so I don’t really matter
@@ayevisualz8726 There's always an excuse. Even if he did drop the album with promo, you'd say, "it dropped with little promo". I hate this shit man. No one cared about this project. It came and went, even with all the attention "7 minute Drill" got.
I think what most aren't considering is that they both are just approaching 40. In a time where you have Jay still rapping and dropped his most critically acclaimed album in his 40s and Nas dropping his best and most well received work (outside of Illmatic) in his 50s, Cole and Kendrick both still got some years ahead of them. Not sure if Cole completely stops after this next album, but if he doesn't then I have a very bold predicition.
I think Cole drops one or two more projects in the near future...and I think they'll be classics. Might Delete Later was throwaways and was a better project than We Don't Trust You. If Cole drops classics with the next few projects AND continues to stay tapped in with the current rap scene and does his features then he'll be able to make up ground.
Kendrick "won" this battle, but he was definitely driven and inspired from his hate for Drake. He even said himself that he lives a boring and peaceful life and only stepped outside of himself to kill Drake, but now that he's gotten that out of his system what's next? He's not that great on features and he isolates himself from the current rap landscape outside of Baby Keem. I think that is where Cole has the biggest advantage.
Literally just the other day Lu talked about how Freddie Gibbs has been the most consistent in-form rapper of the last 5-6 years and then today at 12:00 he just says J cole is bar none like what???
The term “big 3” has done so much damage to the genre. So many people get forgotten.
Man I agree so much. And I swear bro it’s because everybody always wants to like compare rap to sports. Idk it’s weird 😂
Mianstream bias at his finest😂😂😂Honestly, I think Freddie Gibbs is a better rapper and makes better music than Cole though
@@iangarcia1585 thats not true... j cole is the better rapper
@@iangarcia1585Gibbs is most definitely not a better rapper than cole lmao. Quote me three good bars from Gibbs off the top of your head let’s go bar for bar. Makes better music, lol. Dude just picks great beats from legends.
We’re speaking in hypotheticals as well. We’re saying “if J.Cole drops album of the decade” when we’re in 2024 very early to say so and as if Kendrick possibly didn’t drop the album of last decade so he could possibly do that this decade. Anyway at least there’s hope for J.Cole only time will tell.
J cole gonna finally fight Kendrick one on one only Bars not allegations.
He did what was best for his career, imagine Kendrick calling J.cole a Nazi out the bat.
Hot take: Kendrick had better bars in this beef than any mainstream rapper has ever had in a rap battle.
Also J. Cole's 7 Minute Drill had weaker bars than every track from Kendrick and Drake.
Kendrick only brought up allegations after Drake played that game with him first on Family Matters. Don't be wilfully ignorant
Not really a hot take, 6:16 imo proves it
@@Spectre0799nah u wrong about that second take. Did u not hear the second part of that song? “Fly pebbles at your dome we the Stone Temple Pilots.” Second half was 🔥and he himself said it was only a warning shot
@@Spectre0799Spectre, your half-baked comments are a joke, keep it up and and I'll turn ya to a ghost. I'll haunt you with rhymes so sick, you'll wish you had a antidote. You gon think I'm a phantom, the way I'm handing out smoke. 🚬🚬🚬
@@Spectre07997 min drill wasn’t bad lyrically. the diss was bad and the beat was and but the bars were pretty good
I just hope the album is more conceptual rather than bar heavy. I want him to make me think, feel emotional, happy, etc. I want him to make me feel something.
He took a non contest not a whole L
You gotta live with the strikes 2 🔥,
We gonna see flames whenever an artist buys he's masters time will tell choose Wisely, forever 🐐 ColeWorld writes and produce he's own shit now that's something else.
i disagree with lou on this he backed out because it was gonna get personal j cole is not the type of rapper to get personal its more so about ur craft and ethic its not about ur skeletons in the closests to cole so ion think that means he conceited being better then kendrick by doing so its the same thing with biggie vs pac Pac won the diss but biggie has the better catalog so that doesnt mean he cant be better the pac cole doesnt have a better catalog then kdot but unlike other rappers his projects get better and better while other rappers all be it like kendrick are still amazing albums they go down hill since tpab
From 2017 to now Cole hasn’t put out a better album than Damn
Neither has Kendrick himself 🥰
@@Obie_24damn was probably his best tho and Cole FHD
@@Obie_24off season
I think, even with the backing out of the beef, J Cole, right now, is the most inform rapper I have ever seen in my life, throughout history. The only other times i can think of is Eminem with his SSLP to Encore run, and, yes, I include Encore, even though it was worse than the others, because that album was hindered due to leaks and might've been one of Eminem's best projects if not for that factor. I say this because of the four studio albums, endless features, and his involvement with 50 Cent and other Shady Aftermath artists projects. Then, secondly, I think Kendrick had a similarly in form time period, between TPAB and Damn, and it say that because he went on a phenomenal feature run, dropped 2 amazing studio albums, including arguably the greatest album of all time in TPAB, and also put out a phenomenal album in Untilted Unmastered. These two runs are the only ones I can think of that can compare to Cole from KOD to present day, and what's really crazy about Cole's run is how long he's been going. From 2018 to 2024, with 3 albums and countless features.
Let’s be honest, if Kendrick had been the one to bow out, his fans would be falling over themselves to explain the level of wisdom Kendrick has. 😭🤦🏽♂️
I’m not saying they wouldn’t but aren’t Cole fans doing the exact same thing rn?
@WaddupYT yes but I think it would be more total shift in opinion
But he didn’t…
@@akaibs because its real beef between him and Drake. He doesn't have beef with Cole
Well let’s be honest the diss was all drake in reality Kendrick knows what Cole is capable of they both know is that why he didn’t agree to get on FPS ohh wait he didn’t Because him an drake had issues enough with the bs about Cole not lyrically capable
"Don’t get arrogant with me" 😂😂😂 Great album title
I'm so hyped for the Fall Off
Keep that same energy....love the Siskel & Ebert like debate
Cole’s album WILL I repeat WILL be Grammy nominated
All his shit gets nominated for a Grammy 😂.
"F the Grammy Cs ain't neva done nutn for me"
Right on gentlemen.
The whole situation has been so crazy. As far as the apology, I'm glad he did it. I'm still think he shouldn't have released the song to begin with, so it was the best he could make of a bad situation. Given how long The Fall Off has been teased, I don't expect him to address everything going on recently. However, I do think Cole has a great opportunity to use it as some inspiration.
I think he could still be boastful and confident, just approach it a different way. Personally, I'd like to see him go into the beef stuff on another project. Even if it's not based on it conceptually, or he doesn't address it directly in the lyrics, I think there's so much to take in from the situation that would make for great ideas to go super introspective.
One of the most braindead takes I've ever seen in hip hop is this new narrative that because Drake got bodied by kendrick (and respect to Drake for being a worthy opponent) - that J Cole is somehow an onbrand 'genius' for making one of, if not THE most embarrassing fumbles in hip hop history. There's no other way to put it sorry.
And calling his move an embarrassing fumble is just as braindead
@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 sorry I triggered you
@@nicholasanderson9019 .
The Fall Off is going to have a Kendrick feature....That's how Cole wants to go head 2 head with Kendrick not on some fake beef shit.
Thank god somebody that actually listens to the music. Cole said himself he ain't ducking no 1 on 1's and that he would never beef with a rapper for nothing. The context clues are all there, but people choose to ignore them. If that's not proof they just want to push a narrative and are biased then nothing is
Honestly, i have always preferred Cole to Kendrick and Drake but right now after what happened, I'm curious about how he's going to bounce back and what his choice of words is going to be like in the case of "ain't no way around it no more, i am the greatest..." (Fire Squad) when Kendrick clearly claimed he's selfish with the crown 😂😂
Battle rapping ability is so low on the list of criteria to me (not heavily weighted). Far more important is song writing ability, artistic ethos, discography, lyricism. Traditional battle rappers are lethal with their diss pen game, but can’t write a song-let alone an album to save their life. There is no stain on J. Cole imo
Where is this Fall Off album of the decade hype coming from? Like legitimately. Cole having a couple of nice features with Benny & Lil Yachty doesn't prove to me he can finally craft a generational tracklist of song after song. Especially after the disaster that was MDL.
Exactly it’s hope and hypotheticals.
I'm also baffled by this whol narrative especially following the kendrick disaster, J Cole fans are loyal dogs for real 🤣
MDL is just the throwaways. The Fall Off will be the conceptual, it will have more storytelling, more bars, and etc. He's been working on this album since 2017. So thats why the conversation about album of the decade began.
@@nicholasanderson9019are you a fan of Kendrick? Because they respect each other and the fans also should have some respect for each other. The problem is the Drake, Kenny just wanted smoke with him, not Cole. So stop the slander and be more positive man 🙌🏻
@@WaddupYT i see your perspective man, as this guys said, Kendrick is and always will be the best rapper, but J. Cole is also the one of the greats, so I would love to see him drop an album masterpiece!
Ngl, I have Cole at 11 all time in my list, if The Fall Off is 2014 FHD quality ir better, he could lowkey sbeak into top 7 convos
Pi is the best song to drop this year
It's heavenly
Better than anything kendrick dropped since 2017
He made an entire album about helping you get yourself together & you think cool rhyme schemes are better? Pray for you
@@johnherbert9171chill 💀
I've started listening to these guys recently as of now like a month. And still do not get used to them getting so into convos it really is like We Cry Together
Anthony gets so butthurt when Luka spits them facts😂
battle rapping aint everything. if jcole drops the fall off and its a 10, he can be the best.
Too many people are confusing beef with competition. Before, rappers would compete by featuring with each other, but when they battle, it was always personal
Love you guys content. I do wonder though if an argument could be made for coles 2018 - 2023 run could be considered just as great as the 2 highest touted albums in K.Dots discog (GKMC & TPAB). It's really hard to compare but I really think Cole Put hip hop on his back for almost a 6 year period and few rappers EVER could say that.
Wayne def could
@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 absolutely Brother and I was in high school during that time so that’s the greatest run I’ve ever seen. It just sucks that he got locked up when he did because there was no one hotter.
Mediocre? J Cole... Who is this dude
Might Delete Later he told y'all what was boutta happen he just had to get off first 😂 He sent shots and said sorry shots still landed
Who u think won in this video... Ant or Lu? Who dissed each other better 😂
Cole doesn't have to pivot to anything. He's still the best lol. Like big daddy Kane says . He's the best lyricist ..just because Kendrick wasn't his foe . Which we all agree he was in-between Kendrick and Drake beef. That doesn't mean he can't be above Kendrick if he's rapping better lol. Shit makes no sense
This is how I know most of y’all “hiphop” fans don’t understand the craft.
Winning a Rap battle has never been about being the better rapper…rather it’s just more about being the wittier and/or pettier rapper.
That’s that, if you truly believe winning a rap battles makes one a better rapper then you truly aren’t qualified to be having these conversations
That alone doesn’t determine who is the better rapper however it is part of an overall checklist.
A rapper being “battle tested” is apart of the criteria to see if they’re a GOAT or not.
Kind of. It’s not the end all be all however its apart of the checklist. Plus there’s a lot more to battle rap than you stated. Also, cleaver & witty is apart of being a top tier lyricist. Abc raps don’t make you a top emcee. As well as battling is old as hip hop itself pretty much.
@@vicstone8817 So Wayne, 3K, Big L, etc aren't one of the GOATs because they aren't battle tested?
It is a big part of it imo and backing out of it does influence your ranking.
What are you talking about bro
We are asking the wrong questions, what really happened between Kendrick and Drake to make this spiral. Cole got warning from Kendrick that this was personal and Cole just wanted a sport rap battle. The Fall Off is going to be huge but I feel out of all of this, a collab between Kendrick and Cole is very possible now
Ant taking a dub here with j cole being able to come back if the fall off is immaculate