Another erudite and enjoyable lecture from Bart. He always speaks with humanity and humility as well as with great authority. Anyone new to him should look to the right ~> and watch more. Thank you for the upload. It's much appreciated.
That made a long washing up session particularly enjoyable. I always enjoy his delivery and am looking forward to the second lecture. Thank you for posting - makes the first few centuries of the CE come alive.
I haven't heard anyone yet try to explain why this creationists God had to come as a birthed baby. Why the time spent in having to go through development and why does it appear that he, unlike many 2 year olds today did not seem to develop any faster than other children.
21:05 If the Jehovah's Witnesses can modify the text, so could Marcion of Sinope. And for that matter, so could the scribes who added Mark 16:9-20 and the story of the Adulterous Woman.
I find it curious that Paul says to his veteran student Tim,consider,remember,seed of David and earlier 1Tim 2;4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;, I think Paul is mentioning these points because the denial of genuine humanity was already blurring the lines,
Christ and Messiah are two different things. Greek King, Jewish King. Neither words are used properly by Christians (King worshipers ? That would be a Roman idea)
A Greek king would be "basileus". "Christ" is a translation of "Messiach", meaning "anointed one", stemming from the Israelite tradition of anointing their kings with holy oil (still done to this day among the monarchy).
Bart Ehrman is undoubtedly a great source for Christian history and critical analysis of the New Testament, but it disturbs me that Bart Ehrman and Gordon Klingenschmitt seem to shop at the same Men's clothing store.
Paul twice uses 'seed of David' rom1;2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;2Tim 2;7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things. Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: I don't see how Marcion could have denied the genuine humanity based on Paul
Bart, I think it was a big mistake that Irenaeus said there needed to be four gospels. I have never liked him. He is a distrustful character, imo. Shall we stab each other some more over inconvenient disagreeing scripture? Doesn't it occur that when the early christian fathers were composing the texts, they realized how they argued unrequitedly, and so thought this squabbling would be a good way to divide people to more easily control them. Seems outlandish, but we have a saying for that, "divide and conquer".
@@TorianTammas The ones the holy spirit indwells and discerns the truth. Something Atheists can never understand. To those who are perishing, the word makes no sense and they scoff and mocked....."for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities―his eternal power and divine nature―have been clearly seen, being understood by what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles....They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,
Some of these have sought to put themselves in positions in where the delusion of power has blinded they become tyrants in Gods kingdom the power others lend you is meaningless
"for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities―his eternal power and divine nature―have been clearly seen, being understood by what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles....They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,
Today those who were like the fools of old are behaving just like the fools old. Man has serious issues when it comes to reality when it comes to showing g gratitude for what God has created and totally forgot their true place in existence
This whole thing was just abject speculation. The most amusing and contemptible one being "Luke made additions to his own Gospel" LOL! The theme of this touted "historical scholarship" is merely at its crude base an activity of scanning the Sacred Texts, and if absolutely anything can be construed as being "a different style", the secular rebel vainly attempts to impose a scandal of some kind. Desperate infidel onlookers of course accept these musings as an authotative fact, and with grotesque relief are emboldened in their sins.
You would think after years of reading the same lecture over and over that he wrote himself, Bart would be able to recite it without reading it. It is apparent that "ad lib" lectures are beyond his ken. FFS I taught community college classes better than this alleged professor.
Duane Brocious - As your biggest fan, I have enjoyed all of your peer reviewed scholarly textbooks and books. I also enjoyed all of your public RUclips debates. I especially love the blog you publish whose proceeds go to charity where you write thousands of words a week on Early Christianity and the bible. I only wish Bart could live up to your community college standards.
Although I am agnostic theist and specifically an agnostic Christian I more than appreciate the work and scholarship of Dr. Ehrman.
This is the REALEST comment ever. Much appreciated
God help you people
Another erudite and enjoyable lecture from Bart. He always speaks with humanity and humility as well as with great authority. Anyone new to him should look to the right ~> and watch more. Thank you for the upload. It's much appreciated.
0:53 Some say,
*"you're a gay magicien."*
Every time I hear of this one, I smile with a mindset of peace and wonder.
Yeah, that's my favorite one.
Another good lecture. Thank you
Great lecture, Professor Ehrman!
That made a long washing up session particularly enjoyable. I always enjoy his delivery and am looking forward to the second lecture. Thank you for posting - makes the first few centuries of the CE come alive.
This guy is brilliant, reading his books and they are fantastic too.
I haven't heard anyone yet try to explain why this creationists God had to come as a birthed baby. Why the time spent in having to go through development and why does it appear that he, unlike many 2 year olds today did not seem to develop any faster than other children.
Bart Ehrman is the greatest Bible Scholar on the planet. Greater than Robert Price and Richard Carrier.
3rd Corinthians went straight to DVD
I'm an agnostic atheist and this is incredibly fascinating!
21:05 If the Jehovah's Witnesses can modify the text, so could Marcion of Sinope. And for that matter, so could the scribes who added Mark 16:9-20 and the story of the Adulterous Woman.
Bart keeps saying Tertolian; isn't it Tertullian?
I find it curious that Paul says to his veteran student Tim,consider,remember,seed of David and earlier 1Tim 2;4
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;, I think Paul is mentioning these points because the denial of genuine humanity was already blurring the lines,
37:08 If these (IMO significant doctrinal) additions were known in 2004, why weren't they mentioned in Dr. Ehrman's 2007 "Misquoting Jesus" debates?
Any OPEN MINDED Christian who listens to dr.bart Ehrmann WILL LEAVE Christianity.
Why?
Awesome
Christ and Messiah are two different things. Greek King, Jewish King. Neither words are used properly by Christians (King worshipers ? That would be a Roman idea)
A Greek king would be "basileus".
"Christ" is a translation of "Messiach", meaning "anointed one", stemming from the Israelite tradition of anointing their kings with holy oil (still done to this day among the monarchy).
Bart Ehrman is undoubtedly a great source for Christian history and critical analysis of the New Testament, but it disturbs me that Bart Ehrman and Gordon Klingenschmitt seem to shop at the same Men's clothing store.
SAME ATTIRE AS ALWAYS IT SHOULD BE THE MALE HISTORIAN CLOTHING OUTLET STORE HAH HAH HEH LOL
*****
goggle it and find out, why the hell should I do your homework for you?
Good speech
Paul twice uses 'seed of David' rom1;2
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;2Tim 2;7
Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel: I don't see how Marcion could have denied the genuine humanity based on Paul
Wrong, read genesis again.
@@ianrwood21 its mythology. That's how myths are passed down..with varying interpretations and versions.
Bart, I think it was a big mistake that Irenaeus said there needed to be four gospels. I have never liked him. He is a distrustful character, imo. Shall we stab each other some more over inconvenient disagreeing scripture? Doesn't it occur that when the early christian fathers were composing the texts, they realized how they argued unrequitedly, and so thought this squabbling would be a good way to divide people to more easily control them. Seems outlandish, but we have a saying for that, "divide and conquer".
Remember Ehrmwoman..The millstone? The book of Enoch had been written 200 years before.
They invite him into church to test their faith and find out the bible is not a book of truth or predictions.
Joseph Nordenbrock
It is a book of truth and predictions but lies have been inserted in to it to make people deny the whole thing.
Alex S Really? Which one the men is out of mud or the talking snake?
@@TorianTammas The ones the holy spirit indwells and discerns the truth. Something Atheists can never understand. To those who are perishing, the word makes no sense and they scoff and mocked....."for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities―his eternal power and divine nature―have been clearly seen, being understood by what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles....They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,
Some of these have sought to put themselves in positions in where the delusion of power has blinded they become tyrants in Gods kingdom the power others lend you is meaningless
Gay magician sounds about right.
Hung out with 12 men, never married, did parlor tricks at weddings.
"for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities―his eternal power and divine nature―have been clearly seen, being understood by what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles....They exchanged the truth about God for a lie,
You're ignoring scripture by posting here. Women are not to teach. Now, be quiet and start having babies. 1Timothy 2.11-15.
Yeshua was actually very human in the likeness of God real humans are like the father
I love Morton Smith's gay magician so much
4:38 smh smh the foolish things they concoct amongst themselves
Today those who were like the fools of old are behaving just like the fools old. Man has serious issues when it comes to reality when it comes to showing g gratitude for what God has created and totally forgot their true place in existence
"bodily raised from the dead" means reincarnated.
how can an agnosticist be a top professor? hypokrit
Explain
This whole thing was just abject speculation. The most amusing and contemptible one being "Luke made additions to his own Gospel" LOL! The theme of this touted "historical scholarship" is merely at its crude base an activity of scanning the Sacred Texts, and if absolutely anything can be construed as being "a different style", the secular rebel vainly attempts to impose a scandal of some kind. Desperate infidel onlookers of course accept these musings as an authotative fact, and with grotesque relief are emboldened in their sins.
You would think after years of reading the same lecture over and over that he wrote himself, Bart would be able to recite it without reading it. It is apparent that "ad lib" lectures are beyond his ken. FFS I taught community college classes better than this alleged professor.
Duane Brocious - As your biggest fan, I have enjoyed all of your peer reviewed scholarly textbooks and books. I also enjoyed all of your public RUclips debates. I especially love the blog you publish whose proceeds go to charity where you write thousands of words a week on Early Christianity and the bible.
I only wish Bart could live up to your community college standards.
I guess thats why you have been able to reach an audience as wide as Dr. Erhman... hmmm