5 New Ideas for Using Shelly Devices In Your Smart Home (NOW WITH DIMMING!)
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
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Thank you for your informative videos, just ordered 2 Shelly dimmers! Going to dim the lights next to my tv and my hallway lights based on the time of day
Haven't been keeping up with all the new Shelly products. Thank you for the update, now I need to go out and buy some more devices.
Thanks Rob! Now we need you to help with setting the shelly as a automation trigger!
I would love to see a more detailed video on how you linked the lights and switches in your daughter's room. Video is amazing, I am slowly getting into home automation and love your channel.
yes I would like to see this
Yeah I'd like to see a detailed video as well
Me too! Please 🙏😊
Another great vid. Wow! The dimmer SL (no neutral) looks like a real game changer. I know this is a new product, but I hope they follow up quickly with a 2 channel version of this.
Now I am going to have to go buy some more of them. Thanks for the motivation :-)
Great video as always. A word of caution if you attach a dimmer to a standard outlet: Many years ago, when video cameras were high-end tech and cost 1/4 of a typical car, I plugged a high-end video camera into an outlet in a theatre. Tested it and all worked fine. Then started recording the performance. A little way in the Lighting guy in the AV control room pulled down all the dimmers and the AC outlet I was connected to was one of them. It completely fried the power supply unit _and_ the power circuit in the camera. Be very careful what you connect downstream of a dimmer.
You were bootlegging videos 😂
Great tutorial! This is very helpful for planning out my next steps. I would like to see a video integrating Shelly products with Hubitat if possible. Thank you for all that you do.
Great comparison, very useful. Thank you.
Thankyou for this. Words like Shelly and Tasmota get thrown a lot in the home assistant Facebook group and it can add to an already steep learning curve. I saw that you had Shelly videos and knew you’d break it down well and you did. I was stoked about the innovelli switches because of being able to disable the relay but these may be another solution
Wow great vid! Shelly Dimmer in-line for a lamp or other lights, so great!! I'm gonna try your case with some silicon sealant and use it outside for my garden lights. Best vide yet!
There's no conformal coating on the PCB, so expect corrosion in a damp environment.
@@TheHookUp Good to know thanks. Do you have experience using that liquid tape stuff to seal up boards like this? Maybe coat the unit after connections made?
Great video, thanks Rob.
Nice summary - well done :)
As usual fantastic video!!
Thank you for this video,very useful
Wow that sounds really cool! I wish I understood at least some of that tho. Is it possible to use this to be able to control a light switch via voice commands with Alexa AND the switch? Some times I walk into my bed room and just want to be able to turn on the light via the switch and the turn it off once I exit, but I also want to be able to turn the light off via voice or the app when I'm already in bed. Is there a way to do that?
This is Great!! Have you tried using them to create smart blinds? If so, I would love to watch that video.
These look like they would potentially help my setup in my new to me house. A 50's build with a couple updates here/there. I have switches that control outlets, but have a ceiling fan+light un-switched. Seems I could pair these in the ceiling with a smart switch to wirelessly control the light without having to run a new wire to the light in the fan and leave the outlets un-switched.
Nice video!
Quick question, in your daughter room I saw 3 or 4 light switches in the wall. For each one did you use one shelly device?
Shelly are the best , Another awesome video from Rob :)
Again great video! I'm wondering if you can answer this. I have 2 lights (G9 bulbs) which can be switched on/off at the same time with 3 physical switches. 2 located downstairs and 1 upstairs. Could I use a Shelly to make them switch on/off through homeassistant? I have neutral.
Good video! Love shelly!
Love you videos! Your good; unfortunately I'm still waiting firy dimmers to arrive. It's about to be 2 months , but nvermind for a good product the wait is worthy 👍
I know the problem right now is with the Bulgarian Post. I ordered some with DHL shipping and had them in 3 days.
The Hook Up, looks like they have some update .. they sent me an intimation stating they are updating some components. I ordered it on 3. NOV :( let's hope I get this before the new year) btw, Marry Christmas ( loved your Christmas lights. 👍 ) Hope to see some video to Install HA in rooted Android :) TV box
And now I think you would have received a refund with no explanation whatsoever. I did.
Hi,
Very interesting videos!
I am new to the this smart revolution and trying to catch up :-)
Which Shelly device can I use to control a towel warmer? I need an ‘auto off’ function for my warmer. Thanks
What I’m wondering is if you can setup a Shelly dimmer with two different switching devices attached to the entries. So for instance on 1 comes a motion switch, smallest pulse is approx 5seconds, and on 2 a push button.
The button is to overrule the motion switch and to use the dimming settings. Using the Shelly dimmer 2 with home assistant.
I'm thinking about putting a 2.5 in the first box of my 3way lighting. There's no other way I can think of to keep a device powered w/o rewiring the circuit. I have the type 3 wiring from DrZzs video.
2 relays can simulate a SPDT (3-way) switch and power monitoring can sense a downstream switch state. HA automation can handle the footwork of displaying on/off status vs power threshold. Dumb switch just toggles the Shelly relays' state.
I'm not that interested in RGB stuff so this was a welcome change of topic for me. Thanks!
Wow! The Shelly App is SUPER robust. Glad to see you're back Rob, you've clearly been busy. Didn't think I'd pull it off, but I got my lights mounted and running and thanks to DrZzs running off WLED for now.
I've been looking at the Shellys since your first video, but most of my switches are 3-Way, so I have to figure out the wiring before I jump in. Great ideas with using the "outlet" switches to wirelessly control other things, that'll work PERFECT for some underbed lighting in my sons room too.
The facebook link is working for me right now, it was broken before but I fixed it, so give it another shot.
Shelly's are great for 3-way switches because they accept mains on the switch terminal, so a single shelly can make the whole circuit smart.
I never went away, new video every 2 weeks on Wednesday 7am EST. Hit that bell :P
@@TheHookUp Perfect! Just joined, now to order a pair of Shelly 1s
@@TheHookUp Guess I was just hungry for more content as I put together my lights and gobbled up some LONG videos over at DrZzs.
Got a Pi 4 has been sitting idle waiting to have HA loaded and configured.
Great video. Does the Shelly dimmer 2 work with any dimmer or does it have to be the Shelly switches?
Shelly products are of a really great quality!
Did you put a scope on the output for the Dimmer module to see what the wave form looks like when it dims?
I really like your videos. I don't want to use a lot of time explaining all the reasons why but, know that I do. I have watched this video several time because I really like the idea of a shelly dimmer on an extension cord. I went to buy a shelly dimmer to rig this up however, I can no long buy a Shelly dimmer. I can only find the Shelly dimmer 2. There are some difrences. I was wondering if you have run the SD2 on an extension cord and if so could you explain the wireing? Thank you!
I'd love to do the same to my daughters room!
Hey Mister The Hook Up, thank you fo all you interesting videos! Did you know a way to have time translation dimmering with a shelly dimmer and/or a shelly rgbw2 (in Home Assistant)? If there is no official way, did you know a alternative to do that? Thank you and keep up you gret videos :))
Can the yellow one (RGB2?) be used for my fireplace wall switch which seems to be low voltage?? Thanks!
Say... Since you already did your own DIY Smart Curtains, would you happen to know if it would be possible to repurpose a Shelly 2.5 and their rolling shutter / end stop sensing functionality to do a simple DIY Smart Curtains build using a regular motor instead of the stepper shenanigans?
I have been looking for an alternative to mysa with energy monitoring for inline voltage smart thermostat for baseboard heat and cannot find anything. Ideally no hub and no external relays, but will take into consideration. For a new heater I need to add, was thinking to just buy a 1000W 120v heater and use the ShellyPM in line with a cheap double pole Honeywell thermostat, or use a sonoff th-16 with attachable thermostat (but ideally want the pm for energy monitoring) However all my existing heaters are 2 line 240v. The Shelly pm can handle 3500W but says it requires a neutral, which on a 240v 2 line heater in US, means no neutral. Any ideas? Is there Something out there that could work and still fit in the baseboard electrical box?
I have a handful of Shellies and they are very reliable. The only gripe I have ( common to most of these types of devices ) is the screw terminals. When connecting 14 AWG solid wires, I have had a tough time squeezing the thing back into the box without dislodging wires. I finally solved that by using stranded wire on the Shelly and using Wago connectors ( I guess you could use wire nuts. Ugh! ) to attach the solid wires. It takes up more space, but really makes it more reliable. This also makes it easier to remove or replace the Shelly since you don't need a screwdriver. I gave up on the Sonoff devices because of the skimpy PC traces that overheated and destroyed the device. I fixed a couple by soldering wires to the back of the PCB, but that is a lot of work to solve a simple problem. It is interesting that the eMylo devices ship with the Wago connectors.
I think the key to using solid core wire is planning out how it will be bent before attaching it to the shelly. I get all my wires stripped, then hold them in one hand and stuff them back in the box to where the shelly will eventually live. This helps get them bent/folded in the right place, then pull them back out and attach the shelly.
@@TheHookUp That's a good solution too. I'm still not thrilled with the screw connectors. I still have a few boxes without the Wagos and they seem to work OK once they are "stuffed".
Love the video, so good ideas. Would love to know more about your daughters room setup. My son saw it and wants it now lol.
Just two other question. Can you tell me how to active the MQTT section. Just can’t seem to find it for my 2.5 or the advanced development section
Also would you flash with Tas or leave it on the app with MQTT
Sorry to get to the MQTT option you need to access the device via web browser and not the Shelly app. Everyday is a school day 🤓🤓
Great channel.. In your opinion...do you think the Shelly pm would run a 110v 1500 watt pool pump ? Haven’t found anything that is reliable for this application without overheating...keep up the work!!
Hello could you do a video of hoe to install the Shelly dimmer in to a 3way switch.
Love your videos, .
I did today an installation of multiple shelly dimmers. I have an interesting scenario. In my dining room I have 14 lights of 17w each exceeding the 220w maximum of the dimmer. So I split the load on 2 dimmers (still fits in the box) with 4 push buttons, on a single gang decora.
I wonder how I can have both dimmers synch the brightness (and on/off) . So they work as a single unit...
In tesmota we could have done rules, but unfortunately the shelly dimmer cannot use tesmota as of now..
Can probably achieve it with node red flows, but its getting complicated..
Dimitar Dimitrov, said he liked my idea he might add such an option on future FW release,
Hello Rob, I began to see these single live relays say the Shelly Dimmer SL and some of ORVIBO's, how does it not require a neutral wire? How does that work?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks Rob! Awesome video as always. Note of caution, it is bad practice, and probably a code violation, to attach a dimmer to an outlet. Plugging a non-dimmable device into the outlet would result in... something? What if the in-laws come over for the holidays and plug in their iPhone charger to that dimmer controlled power strip or outlet? I don't know honestly. What happens? I feel like it wouldnt be good.
You are correct, it would be bad. Specifically a switch mode power supply would be very angry about it. Yet another reason to do it externally on the extension cord.
Planning to buy bunch of these to automate lights locally in HA.
Is it possible to use the dimming option of the Shelly dimmer as well as the manual dimming option of the actual switch? Basically my requirement is to automate the lights (Dim and switch on/off on certain times of the day), but need the manual dimmer of the actual switch to function whenever required. Any suggestion / recommendations ?
Can you add a tactile dimming method without the app on a phone, like on the wall or device?
Thank you.
could you compare shelly dimmer control with fibaro dimmer 2 ? i'm looking to replace theme with a wifi based dimmer, but autocalibration, none-linear curve, blownout bulb alarm are sweet. and i don't know how shelly dimmer work with a single momentary switch.
Question:
I am not quite familiar with wiring up devices and I am trying to understand. @ 2:30 the video goes over how you can wire up a Shelly 1, to xmas lights because of its dry contacts. Why wouldn't you be able to do the same thing via Shelly 1pm, or Shelly 2.5 ?
Excellent video Rob. Nice to see the complete Shelly lineup. I like to see the quality and the UL approved devices.
What are you running your home assistant on? My SD card on my RPi blew up and I need to restart. Heading to FB to join yours and Shellys groups. Thanks
I’ve got ha on the same machine that runs my Plex server and blue iris (running in virtual box)
Is there anymore support for US based no neutral wiring? I have an older home and this seems like a cheaper option for me than a bunch of Lutron switches.
do you have a tutorial for shelley dimmer with no neutral through the switch?
Will these work with native 12v systems? I'm looking to separately dim, via app or remote, multiple lighting zones on an RV
I am looking to add some LED strips to a home bar i am building. There will be 4 glass or acrylic shelves each with 24V RGB LED strips behind them. Each shelf will always display the same color when on.
How many of which Shelly controller would i need for the 4 strips.
Does it matter if they are not all connected to each other or do they need to be?
I will also want to add one long 24V RGB LED strip under the counter again controlled by a Shelly unit. Which would be the right product for this?
Thank you in advance for your help.
I will order from your links.
Can I load a Arduino sketch flickering lights to the Shelly dimmer ?
Im looking to make my office ceiling fan smart or able to control it remotely. I only have a single light switch to the fan witch only supplies power. I would like to be able to control the light and the fan depending on the time of day and temp in my office? Is there any way the Shelly device would work for me?
Love your video.. You mention that they can work even not connected to internet? Can you make a video to show how you do that? Thanks
You use them with Home Assistant
Do you have a video about the dimmer with the box you 3d printed?
Tasmota and the SwitchModes are very interesting 👍🏼
Can i use the shelly 1 to detect the nest door bell by connecting at the chime?
You may have already discussed this but what is your opinion of the new working group Project Connected Home over IP? Do you think this will make it possible for smart devices like Shelly do you work with HomeKit?
Does it keep constant power to the light if you turn the light off at the switch? The problem I have (like many other people) is that if someone else at my house turns off the switch then my automations won't work so I was wondering if this Shelly device would solve my problem. I know that actual smart switches can do this but I don't have neutral wires at my house so I can't have them. Unfortunately, Lutron Caseta would be an option which doesn't require neutral but it's not certified for Australia.
Using 3 RGBW2's to control the cabin lights on my boat. all light strips. Running the Shelly's in white mode, but from one of them I pull cable to the Red LED on the strip to have night vision friendly light as well. Running Openplotter and (trying) to get a grip on MQTT/Node red to rule them all. :-D Thanks for the inspiration!
This is so awesome and makes me sad, because I don't have a single neutral wire in all my switchboxes... I use Zigbee switches with energy harvesting instead, but it just ain't the same.
Back in the X10 days, no neutral was no problem. Those of us in ancient houses knew the deal all too well.
Can shelly dimmer can handle 20 garden lights each light around 5w on 240v dc and protected by rcb 16a Thanks
Hello. Which Shelly should I use in case that I want to put a touch button?
I just installed the shelly 1 its awesome. but doesn't quite fit in my circuit box. it has detached mood which rocks hard.
I use it to turn on Wled
shelly dimmer supports 2 switches to controll dimming. is there any possibility to detect switches turned on and off without controling dimmer? i would like to use second switch for something else
I'm looking for a way to turn my dumb washing/dryer machine in a smart one with Shelly EM. Any ideas?
Hi. I would like to ask if the Shelly 1 can be used out of the box with the Smartlife android app. If not, can custom firmware such as Tasmota enable me to use this app?
My Shelly 1 will be connected behind a traditional toggle switch to control a lamp. My aim through the Smartlife app is to simply toggle power on and off. Thanks
Think you could do a video on how to add a shelly to a swamp cooler switch? I'd love to automate my home swamp cooler
Could I wire a Shelby Dimmer into an old (circa 1930s) table fan to control the speed by “dimming” the power? If this is not a good idea, how about just a Shelly 1 to make the fan Wi-Fi capable?
So if I want to keep smart bulbs powered but allow the use of the wall switch for people that don't listen to me, do I use the Shelly 1, PM or 2.5?
I'm using a shelly 2.5 for a light and a ceiling fan. In home asstants shelly inagration there is a shelly temperature sensor. I guess is is for the device. It is reading 155°F with the fan and light on. Is that normal. When I touch the shelly case it don't fell that hot. Please help I need to know if this is ok. Thank you
Love your videos. I have an LED light where it changes color by flipping the switch on and off specific numbers of times to pick the color. Anyone attempted to use a Shelly switch to do that? maybe write a code to switch off and on numbers of times to pick the color.
Thanks again, really helpful all the time! What's with the camera you're a bit more pink then before ;)
Well, it’s the winter, so I am a bit more pink... lol. BUT, I did change my lighting setup and haven’t had time to play with it.
Can anyone help with following requirement? I have two lights - (a) 23w led light and (b) 10w led. The 23w led(sonoff slampher) has mains supply that means when power fails there is no light from this, whereas 10w led(sonoff mini) has mains/inverter supply, so i want the 10w lights to turn on automatically only during mains power failure and turn off automatically when mains power comes back.
I only have one ? everything today seems to work from a phone which is great ,however can I use the shelly components with a Mac pc ? if so what program is available
I've got a Shelly Relay idea!!! My Thermador gas cooktop, in my kitchen, has a 120v indicator light when a bank of burners is on. More than once, I have left my house wondering if the cooktop was on!!! How about using a relay that, when powered, AND when Geofencing notices that I am not in the house, sends a text command to my phone saying that a gas burner is ON? Which relay would be best for that?
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So the Shelly 1 PM wouldn't be good for using to simulate button presses? i was following the garage door tutorial but i thought the shelly 1 pm would be useful for hte voltage and temp gage, but if only the shell1 has a 12v mode then I need to return the shelly 1 pm?
Great video! I'm still looking for a way to have a 12v or 24v LED strip be controlled both by a physical dimmer (those touch ones) as well as by HA. Could it be done with a shelly dimmer (or other solution)? thanks
When you say "those touch ones", is there a specific product you're looking at?
@@TheHookUp I was looking for the ones we can slide a finger on the touch panel instead of having to press on a "button" several times to change brightness. No particular model in mind. Just needs EU wall mount plate and no neutral. Thanks for answering :) Cheers
Us the Shelly rgbw module, with a pwn to 0-10v chip ;) fancoils, motor regulators, meanwell 0-10v elg transformers, the sky is the limit :) i have currently set up over a kw of leds, with the control of only one rgbw module
Thanks
Love the idea of the Shelly 2.5. It seems like a great way to go. I am just wondering what happens if the network goes down. Does it have internal logic to keep the switches working or are you out of luck until you get the wifi back up?
Yep, no WiFi needed for normal switch operation.
The Hook Up - Wow. Now I need to give this a try. I figured WiFi availability would be the catch. Happy to be wrong.
Great video, Does Shelly have a ceiling fan controller ?
Thanks Garry
You mean a speed controller? Unfortunately not.
Great Video as always. I recently installed my first shelly behind a switch plate after I got tired of my wife resetting my smart lights by using the physical switches.
Could you go into a bit more detail about the detached switch mode? What does the actual wiring look like? Could you provide a schematic?
The Wiring in detached Mode is the Same as in "normal" mode. The Difference is that the relay of the shelly does Not react directly to the Switch. Instead the Shelly sends the Switch State as mqtt Message with topic shellies/shellyxyz/Input/0 and Payload 1 or 0 . Your automation now can react on this, for example by Starting a script that Turns on/off the relay with delay and/or further actions based on the State of the Shelly Switch Input. I use a Shelly 1pm to Control a circulation Pump of my Heather per mqtt. The detached Switch Input on the other hand is connected to the AC Burner Output of the Heather and so tells this State to Homeassistant. The shelly1pm by the way Shows the Power consumption of the pump,...
@@Take5Instead4 Since you seem to know a bit about detached mode, I was wondering if the Shelly falls back to normal switch mode if it loses connection to wifi? I want to run detached switch mode but worried about losing control of lights if my wifi goes out. I would hate to not be able to turn on and off my lights because my wifi is down for whatever reason.
@@RippedWarrior if WiFi Connection is lost, the output can not be changed with the Hardware-switch input anymore, since the Shelly remembers the Detached-Mode even after reboot/power loss. The output state after reboot/power_on can be configured too, of course.
Great video, my question is, I live in an old old house, my switch in the room only controls the outlets in the room, doesn’t control the lights, I have a fan with lights that I want to control from the switch, can I do this with Shellys?
Does your switch have a neutral connection?
The Hook Up I’m pretty sure I have neutral on the switch and on the fan canopy
Hello, the problem is that I cannot order the shelly 2.5 from outside the house with the cloud, I have activated the cloud from internet by IP, it can be seen that it is activated, but no is it that there is a cloud problem?
Ordered a Shelly1 to do my Christmas tree like yours. Any instructions on that? I assume it just interrupts the power wire after the foot switch but how will I know which wire is the power wire?
It's AC power, both are the power wire.
@@TheHookUp ok so I’m just interrupting one of the two wires from the foot switch to the tree with the shelly1?
@@DIYReid Yep, that's what I did.
Does it work with Amazon Alexa and Samsung Smartthings?
Could you post each of these device idle power draw while connected to a wifi signal?
all of them are
shelly rocks
I'm looking for smart switch/relay that will switch on/off a 12v DC LED light used in an RV or auto? It needs to be fairly thin in size. Preferably Zigbee or wifi protocol. Any suggestions?
Is it a regulated 12V system or straight from the battery (12-15v)?
Does the dimmer in lamp base/extension cord work if you don’t now which wire is phase and neutral?
You must supply the shelly with L and N correctly, the taller prong on the plug is the neutral wire in the US.
at 7:19, i think the bulb is missing a wire. how to wire it correctly to the Shelly Dimmer?
Thank you for the videos, I've been watching a lot of yours lately as I'm trying to learn as much as I can about HA, MQTT and also controlling LEDs. The Shelly dimmer looks like a great solution for my kitchen where I have 2 switches that control the high hats (they are split into 2 groups). But my question is would I only need 1, or should I get 2. Also, when hooked up to a regular switch like you had in your video, if the switch is in the off position does that kill power to the shelly or does it act like a 3 way switch where it might end up in the off position but with the lights on. If it does kill the power, that raises another question. if the lights are physically on (from the switch) and I turn them off via the app, can I physically turn them back on by switching the switch off then on again like I do with my smart bulbs. Sorry for all the questions, but I haven't been able to find any videos pertaining to how they operate.
nice.
Rob, please review the Shelley1L?
Does the Shelly 1 support detached mode?