Ruby Ridge Federal Siege - Forgotten History
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- For 11 days in August 1992 the country stood in amazement as they watched nonstop coverage of federal government agencies, the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, the U.S. Marshal’s Service and Federal Bureau of Investigation with local law enforcement surrounded a small cabin in a standoff in the mountains of Idaho. When it was over, three people would be dead, and a government fed media spin machine went into hyper drive to try and make sense of what had happened at a place called Ruby Ridge. Hosted by Colin D. Heaton. Forgotten History is a 10th Legion Pictures Production.
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Jess Walter, Every Knee Shall Bow
Randy Weaver, The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge: In Our Own Words
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Lei, George Lardner Jr ; Richard (September 3, 1995). "Standoff at Ruby Ridge". The Washington Post.
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The two biggest tragedies coming from this incident is that 1: no ATF agents spent decades/life in prison and 2: that the ATF still was allowed to exist after this
No, the siege happened because of randy weaver. Weaver had the correct trial date although a letter was sent out with an incorrect date 30 days earlier.... doesn't matter because Weaver showed for neither (he no intention to show). BEFORE the siege when they tried to serve Weaver at his front gate, weaver pointed a long gun at them and threatened to kill them and they had to leave. Weaver's wife sent hundreds of letters threatening public officials.
The idea that weaver is somehow innocent is complete BS. If you have a warrant and bail bond on your house, you DO NOT get to pretend the situation that happened wasn't your fault.
These are all facts.
@@Thickcurvesthis doesn’t exonerate the ATF and FBI for the murder they committed pertaining to the wife and fourteen years old son. The ATF set up him to hold charges over him to infiltrate the group he was friends with. When the court ruled the FBI agent was above the law because he was acting in official capacity, infuriated me. This along with the immunity law enforcement currently enjoys is why the citizens rights are violated every day in America. Politics aside, far too many Americans rights are currently being violated by the federal government all the way down to the local in some states and jurisdictions. The immunity that politicians enjoy should be removed for too many of them abuse it for political gain destroying people’s lives.
@@Thickcurves You couldn't be any more wrong. You are exactly wrong. 180 degrees wrong. He was entrapped from the start. That's a short version of why this happened but I would strongly suggest you do a little more research that wasn't funded by our gov. PBS and wikipidia aren't trustworthy and haven't been since '08. This is why people should have to take a test to vote. People have no idea what they are talking about. Completely ruined this once great Nation.
@@Thickcurves they're can be two wrongs simultaneously.
One wrong affected a few people
The other wrong affected millions of people on an ongoing basis. That is why I feel the second is where the greater tragedy lies.
@@ThickcurvesJust because you're a Libtard Fed doesn't make it right to tell someone to do something illegal especially when it's on a technicality.
This man lost his dog, his wife and his child, because the government made a mistake on the court date. Then after they made a mistake, they killed his family, and still sent him to jail. But nobody in the government ever got even a slap on the wrist for any of their mistakes.
facts
And to add insult to injury they deployed Hiriuchi to Waco where he was filmed indiscriminately firing into the compound where children huddled.
Just like nobody is being held accountable for the murder of Ashley Babbett on 1/6/20.
@@lesliearblaster2711
If race roll was reversed in Ash death I'd bet they would still be talking bout it.
@@GreggWalken-xd3qv Oh, yes.....seriously ! They make it up as they go along. If I hear one more time what a saint Mr. Floyd is supposed to be, I'll puke!!🤮
Note: The FBI sniper also was a U.S. Marshal at WACO. He threw in grenades in the window that killed 2 other US Marshals that were former Arkansas state troopers which were awaiting court testimony in Bill Clinton while governor. Weird how that happened!
Very good point. He’s an FBI Agent and a Marshall depending on the situation “How Convenient”.
he was always a sniper, not some grenade tosser with US marshalls. For WACO there was some claim that he was firing, but in his defense the forensics found that the 308 shell casings were from ATF snipers using the same position that FBI Horiuchi would later take.
The oaklohoma bomber would send hate mail to Hori and also hand out cards of Hori's personal address.
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@@jason200912
Lon Horiuchi was the sniper. He was also the agent, that tossed the grenade in the window, seconds after the 2 US Marshals (both, formally Arkansas state troopers on the list to testify against Clinton) went through.
The agents asked him after they killed his wife, "Whats Vicky making for breakfast today" over the loud speaker, truly sick individuals
in their defense they had not known that horiuchi had domed the wife in the head. so they incorrectly assumed she was alive
@@jason200912 They did know. They had a radio in a remote controlled toy car down against the house and could hear every word spoken.
They were pissed that one of their agents got smoked the day before. Emotions were high. They did not seem so tough a short while later in Oklahoma though during breakfast time. Live by the sword...
@@krs2222-m1y The only sad part of it was that the federal agents were “conveniently” not at work that morning. 🤔 Along with some judges…🤔🤫
The greatest injustice is that no Fed ever saw a jail cell for this incalculable miscarriage of justice.
Instead he was promoted
He moved up the ladder
FYI Horiuchi is / was employed by Troy industries. HS Precision also used Horiuchi as a sales tool saying he endorsed their products. I will not buy any products from either company.
They should have seen the end of a rope.
@@wdcjunkdidn't know they used a murderer to front their merchandise. Will spread the word. Thanks
US govt: "we investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrong doing "
Very reason I don't trust any ABC agency!!
Isn't that always the case? Thank goodness for Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) that won the case of Obama illegally targeting conservative groups that resulted in the firing of Lois Loerner, head of the IRS!!
They have not gotten any better. They've gotten worse. American citizens have realized that the fbi and Cia does not have our best interest at heart. Our government does whatever it wants with no consequences. It has been that way since the beginning of time. We trust trust them to protect us, but the moment we don't do exactly what they like or say, you are their enemy and they will destroy you and your family. What is going to happen to them? Nothing. What has happened to them? Nothing. Nothing ever happens to the government. They can screw over whoever they want and nobody will do a dang thing.
Classic
@@emeraldfox7175 Especially the ATF & DEA, worst of the bunch!! But the dirty ass, despicable CIA is by far the most corrupt
Ruby Ridge and Waco Sieges should be mandatory study in high school history classes.
Oklahoma City bombers were influenced by this and Waco. A lot of lives lost due to this one incident. The gov blew it!!!
waco is more questionable due to claims of cult gasoline suicide while ruby ridge is far more brutal
@@jason200912 very true. But, Waco was such a disaster… bringing in military helicopters against our own citizens. None of that should have happened. The news spun it. Our gvt was out of control then. Don’t tread on me.
And both stories were from the government's viewpoint rather than factual.
Schools are too busy teaching Gender bending.
I met Randy Weaver at a Hilliard Gun Show in 1999 when He had his book there. I was 14. I had read and watched all about his case and Waco was fresh in my mind. I asked him a lot of questions, as a 14 year old I probably shouldn't have but he answered them about the deaths and how he felt ect. I spent several hours there talking with him. I never met a nicer man and he and I sparked a good conversation. he signed my copy of his book and we stayed in touch all through the years. We had great talks about all kinds of things not just government and all that junk, but a lot of everyday stuff. He liked classic cars same as I did, even why he gave up religion. I did not agree with everything he believed in or said but they were his beliefs and he never pushed them on anyone else and he never begrudged me for my beliefs either. I am proud to call Randy Weaver my friend.
Met him at the Las Vegas gunshow 1996. He told me “i don’t want to talk about what they did to my wife and son.” He was willing to talk about anything else. I walked away understanding this was a guy the federal gov set out to entrap, when that didn’t work they set out to destroy him, when that didn’t work the plan was to kill him.
Shooting an unarmed Mother, in the face? While she stood by the door holding her baby girl?
This entire incident is a Showcase of government over reach!
All responsible should have gone to prison!
And shooting a 10 year old boy IN THE BACK ? While he was just trying to run back home????
I'm at a total loss for words. The entire "Team" of federal officers acted disgusting here!!!!!
Sammy Weaver was fourteen, not ten. Keep the facts straight.
That sniper should have served the same fate he gave that mother.
@stevehicks8944 either way, he was still a kid, and he was shot in the back as he was fleeing. The feds were 100% wrong in this, stop defending them.
This is not government overreach, it is tyranny pure and simple. When our government agencies wage war on their own citizens, it is something our Founders would not have stood for, even the Federalists never comprehended this level of tyranny.
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You are a fine one to speak!
Sending Weaver the wrong trial date was deliberate. It was done to set up the excuse to move in & arrest him.
Now they don't even got to do that they can just say your a terrorist then they can do whatever they want
Yep, the DOJ, FBI, ATF and other federal agencies do things like this to create a problem or in this case entrap a target, not a suspect in an actual crime.
I moved to Culdesac. Idaho just after Ruby Ridge took place. I then moved closer to work on the snake river and then before you know it , The federal agency had to take down the Branch Dravidian's at Waco Texas. The question still remains , " why they did not just arrest Mr. Coresh when he was out jogging ?" Instead they murdered women and children .
Yes and why President Clinton hiding behind Janet Rino?
Nothing they had at the compound was ever proven to be illegal, and if there were children endangered they should have sent in dhs not undercover federal agents. Waco was a travesty of justice perpetrated by incompetent fools who were derelict in their duties and kept things going further and further for their own clout and inflated egos.
Someone pointed out that whenever the FBI had a siege it always ended in fire.
Politics never liked so called “Cults” unless it’s Christian or catholic!
These kind of events are never forgotten!
I don't align with Weaver's beliefs, but the government was dead wrong at every step.
He actually didn’t have extremist beliefs. If you search up his daughter she explains everything
You have to understand there is a lot of propaganda on his beliefs, even in this piece
@jamesandannschmitt6835 I was alive and well back then. I was in the Army when this went down. I'm familiar with his beliefs. He's allowed to have them and I support that - its not that they are 'right' or 'wrong'. But they are not what I believe in.
Read Our Constitution...
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Trust me when I say this, I believe that unless We The People will get off our asses and start speaking out against what is being done to our 1st & 2nd Amendment Rights, Tyranny Will Prevail, Tyranny Will Prevail, And We Will Have No One To Blame But Ourselves...
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Thank You Colin And Mike For Posting This Episode... Dan
@@valerieeee2470White supremacy is an extremist belief my friend.
Randy Weaver is not a saint, but neither is he a criminal. He was a free man trying to live a free man's life. He luckily had a good lawyer in Jerry Spence. The system needed examples to justify expanding growth of domestic policing powers.
Thank you
Yeah well when a glowie asks you for sawed off shotguns give them a look of confusion and tell them to get their own hacksaw.
I don't remember the Weaver family causing me or my family any harm.
@@HughButler-lb6zs Me neither... In fact, I've never seen or heard anything that would suggest that Weaver, or any of his family members, ever caused any harm to anyone.
I see him as a man who just wanted to be left alone and the government just wouldn’t let that happen enticing him to commit crime I wish you would’ve known better and told him no but this shows us dark side of our country.
@@flintrichards945Yes let the lesson go not unheeded I won't.
Ruby Ridge was the Precursor to Waco Texas... Thank You Guys For Posting This Episode... What happened at Ruby Ridge needs to be shared, kept alive for Americans, especially the Younger Generations, so what happened there is Never Forgotten...
God Bless The Entire Weaver Family... RIP Randy, Vicki and Sammy...
We have not forgotten
He's the type of guy to help a stranded motorist. The feds murdered his wife in cold blood and you expect me to believe he's a bad guy?.. i don't think so
They murdered his son too, both for no reason.
The son was worse. In the back. Unarmed? At least the wife the guy could pretend he didn't realize she was there holding the baby. Typing that out, it's all just terrible.
@@kenw2225they shot his dog as well
He was a Neo-Nazi. You can hate the federal government all you want, but don’t paint this guy as a saint
Well, help a white stranded motorist. Wouldn't go so far as to say he would help anyone else
Thanks for keeping the truth alive in a world where “journalism” is just another word for propaganda.
Truth is his white privilege didn’t work that day
This is definitely not forgotten history. Anyone alive during that time remembers it well.
The fact there is a federal organization that focuses on things that are legal is crazy. Alcohol (legal), tobacco (legal), and firearms (legal). While these are all legal, they are regulated. But I don’t feel they require a whole militarized federal agency to regulate.
this is a rogue agency that does not report to Congress
How does one identify an undercover Federal agent? He's the one offering to pay you to do something illegal.
That or says I'm definitely not a fed boy
The more stories you look into, this is how they “find” incriminating evidence against people like this to then have a legal way to dispose of them.
Owning a sawed off shotgun is not illegal. The law prohibiting ownship is illegal.
@HughButler-lb6zs See this is what makes me mad about how whites don't unify in USA. The blacks unite even when one of their people is wrong. What will it take for the white man to wake up and understand this current govt/future globalist govt wants them dead and replaced. Our labor is to expensive on the global market. We must unite before their Kalergi Plan is complete
@@HughButler-lb6zs Owning a sawed off shotgun is not immoral. The law prohibiting ownership of such an item is immoral. "Legality" doesn't matter.
If your optics are so good to be able to place a bullet between a woman’s eyes that rifle scope would also be effective enough to show that woman was holding a baby, not a weapon.
Lord have Mercy
I think she was behind the door. But still they choose to fire blind into a building were they knew there were children. And this after they had already killed one of those children.
@@pmc2999 Thank you for "keeping it real"
If all our Narratives and Lived experinces are either diresctly or indirectly suborned ...well what have we got ? Nothing .. all those people got hurt .. all those crooks got away with it... and what have we survivors got ? Nothing .. ? The only way our Truth live is to Keep it the Truth and dont try to over egg the custard ...
(Disclamer ... I have NOTHING to do directly with any knowledge of Ruby Ridge... I do not and the very thrust of my argument, is that I should not)
.. after such Horrific crimes etched indelibly into History there is a tendency for people who were not directly involved (much less precocious twelve year olds) to pitch in ... Forinsatnce... I have been very peripherally involved with a Special Forces workmate who went into Sniper Duty .. alpha guy .. tuned it down by getting a job with national Law enforcement .. scary man with a shirt .. wouldnt drink wouldnt smoke Christian.
OK just background that to have some cred as a secondary source.... and let's face it we are all secondary sources...
HOLY moley !!! all thoose EULAS and disclaimers...
Only to say "Old Mate" told not one with any Military or Law enforcement training would ever have taken that shot in a civilied Nation .. Take it for what you will .
Excellent point.
Three letter agencies don't have to tell the truth.. they can say whatever they want
Like my grandfather told me years ago:
Government can do whatever it wants.
I met Randy at a gun show. Really didn't know what to say except I'm so very sorry for your loss. The Fed was out of control then, and sadly things have not changed! Fellow Americans...if we don't hang together we will hang alone!
This event is what really shaped my view on our country. I love our country. I just really really hate the government.
U.s. "government " is the enemy if not just Americans, but every citizen of every nation in the world.
There is no separation between these two entities
the founding fathers literally want you to be skeptical of the government. that' is why the constitution was written that way. so yes, there is distinct separation.@@TheSqueezycook
@@slimshadow49 this changes nothing of what I stated, “ if the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?” - Anton Chigrugh
bro watched no country for oldmen once and adopted a new philosophy@@TheSqueezycook
I was friends with one of the US Marshals who originally arrested Randy the first time. He told me that he wanted to arrest Randy the second time when Randy he left his home, to make it a peaceful arrest. But the Marshal was told no. And then the FBI took over and the mess ensued. The Marshal said that too many people with big ego’s wanted to make a point to the public.
They made a point to the public alrighty. Might not be the point they were trying to convey though.
That sounds like the FBI. I know a local LE agent who has worked with the FBI for years who said they all have egos and want to move up the ladder at any cost. He said he wouldn't trust them.
@@1pcfred This was the dry run for the massacre at Waco.
Pretty much anyone can post anything they want on the internet, but my Spidy-sense tells me you're telling the truth. Probably based somewhat on my own experience as a peace officer myself, as well as my time in the military.
@@Albemarle7 that went over big too. The government was really batting 1000 in the early 90s.
Ruby Ridge will never be forgotten
it already has been ask any typical about it infact ask them what countries border The USA ? bonus points ask any typical young person about Pearl Harbor
A lot of young people born after this happened have never heard of Ruby Ridge or Waco. They don't realize just how the government can turn on people on a dime. Throw you in jail, lay seige to your home, kill your family. etc. They've seen none of that except when Mar-A-Largo, which is a much less tragedy of course and a different agency, but it's all the federal government going after citizens.
wow 20 acres for $5,000
I can go back in time I could buy 100 acres for $20 000.
@@nordiccombatant2167 Or the island of Manhattan for a hand full of beads and a vanity mirror.
Ya that’s what happens when people keep printing money….
Right? Might be a few angry ghosts in the area now but I'd side with them. Funny how heartless, mindless rapist murderers get treated with care and respect from law enforcement and the government. Twenty years working in state corrections in Washington and another six years of law enforcement in Idaho and Oregon proved the truth of that fact. It's called professionalism since those of us who make arrests and/or supervise offenders in custody take pride in the responsibilities and hold each other accountable for maintaining our American justice system in honor of those who gave their lives for its existence. When this incident began it had a rather different and disturbing feel since Mr. Weaver hadn't committed a violent crime, had no hostages and posed no threat to the community as his neighbors were simply deer and the occasional black bear. Personally it was then and remains today my opinion that this incident was an experiment to see the reaction of the American people in order for those in power and those who will come to power to make a benchmark, to observe the reaction from the American public. With this acquired data a measurement determining the strength of their propaganda could be noted on a timeline to improve the government's power to control the population. Basically it was one of several similar experiments to determine the necessary resources likely required to control the population. Why would that be? Why would the government want more power and control over its citizenship than it currently has? I'll let you think about reasons why that may be. Anyway that incident was many years ago now and the world has changed beyond my wildest expectations. In modern times I now see that most people do not have the ability to determine the meaning of basic facts. Sadly people are ashamed if they don't believe the same things as they're being told to believe by a media that reports with a fixed agenda in mind. Maybe I'm just becoming weird in my advancing years but the young adults of today make me fear for the future of the free world. But hell, remember how bad the hippys made the future look? Who figured we'd be around when that generation came to power? Each generation seems to give up a little bit more......
The title of this great channel says everything: My Dad was a, two tour, Vietnam veteran. One of the many things he repeated to me was that the American people have too short a memory. This results in the “Forgotten History” that should be, instead, remembered and learned from…. Semper Fi!
The craziest history lesson is Man don't learn from history. I live in Canada and it has many eerie similarities to another country in the 1920-30s
Being a government agent means you never have to say your sorry. Just pay off the victim with taxpayer's money, no skin off your nose. Horiuchi should have been prosecuted, or at least fired. Same for the guy who shot Weaver's son in the back.
3 million is kinda cheap for two lives. Really that settlement saved the taxpayers quite a bit. The trial would have cost many times more.
Had this happened in "Brown" neighborhood the looting would still be going on.
And not having a trial cost many times many more in the long run. @@1pcfred
That's what I was saying. I think out of this whole ordeal that that boy being killed is the worst of all. But that is my opinion, it is apparently obvious that the ATF feels differently. I am against All war unless it comes to my door step and that is exactly what happened to Mr.Weaver. There is No amount of money that can replace his blood.
@@1pcfred brother 3 million is NOTHING to our government. Just look how much Obama put up for his little war. It is crazy ridiculous, it is a No brainer why other countries laugh at us.
I met Randy Weaver at one of those gun shows and talked with him for a bit. Nice guy, bought his book from him and got it signed, unfortunately it got lost over the years and moves. I pray he is at peace with Vicki and Sam
This is NOT forgotten history!
Weaver's only crime was wanting to be left alone.
Well, Randy did seem to want to make some easy money. But that's understandable.
@@1pcfredThe fed's asked him over and over again to cut down some shotguns for Them. I just would have gave them the shotguns and told them to cut them them damn selves!
@@1pcfredPushy rotten feds
@@maxxcarver5502 I would have told them they sell hacksaws to people that look like you too.
@maxxcarver5502 It's ridiculous that a couple ratty SxS sawn offs led to this.
Not like he was converting Tec 9s to FA or making explody things
Randy Weaver - modified his personal property and sold it to someone who wanted to buy it, hung out with some people with questionable beliefs, wanted to be left alone...
The ATF - shot and killed a child's dog, then shot the child in the back as he ran away, shot an innocent woman holding her infant daughter while claiming to shoot at two unarmed men who were retreating (as if that justified the action), ruined the lives of several other people... all because of a missed court date which was only missed because they got the date wrong on the man's paperwork...
Forget about "legal" or "illegal" and ask yourselves which side was moral or immoral. I don't agree with Weaver's beliefs, in fact I condemn some of them, but simply disagreeing with someone's beliefs does not make it ok to hate him or to want him dead. He was not an immoral man and he certainly did not deserve what happened to him. His family sure as hell didn't deserve any of it.
Exactly. Sometimes it's not about being right, it's about doing right!
Although I generally agree with what you believe should not have happened there, he and his wife were not as innocent as you make them sound. They were gearing up for violence and extremism. That being said, it still doesn’t excuse what the govt did and they deserve to be punished for many years to sent the message with extreme clarity that incidents like this will not go unpunished.
@@TheGeenat What proof do you have that they were "gearing up for violence and extremism"? Everything I've seen only shows that they were "gearing up" to defend themselves against GOVERNMENT violence and extremism. The government spun that into an excuse to attack them by setting them up. Their religious beliefs may seem odd to you, I don't agree with them myself, but like it or not, they had the right to believe whatever they want. Nobody has the right to attack other people on suspicion that they MIGHT get violent. Nobody has a right of authority. I don't have the right to attack you for being an authoritarian, but I do have a right to defend myself against you when you decide to use the violence of authority to attack me.
@@livewire2759He is too fucking dumb to understand it. Another government lover total moron and a murderer too.
The shotgun he modified was given him by the agent who had marked where to cut the barrel. It was marked 1/8th inch too short. This is what they charged him with.
I really enjoy your videos & have binged several today. I love history! Also, thank you for your service to our country! ❤
Thank you for making a great video on this disturbing case of governmental abuse.
This occurred shortly after I got out of the army. I remember reading everything I could find on the subject and thinking about what I would do if I was in his shoes. setting some early warning alarms around the property for example. even the old trip wire activated pebbles in a can would be a start, but my time in the second ranger bat taught me a few things that were a bit more sophisticated. I think Randy knew how to better prepare his property he just did not realize til too late at what level the feds were playing the game. The Feds wanted to use him as an informant and he was carefully selected for that role. He was in financial difficulty at the time and they used that as leverage. They repeatedly asked him to sell illegal shotguns to them. he refused at first but they kept pressing him til he did as they asked. That set the hook in him. next step was to blackmail him with threats of prosecution if he did not become their mole. he would not do it so they had to make an example of him. The Feds were going full Rambo on Randy laying siege to his property and using every dirty trick in the book and breaking out all the cool gear like cammies, face paint and high speed weapons to bag the bad guy. Horiuchi knew exactly what he was doing. HRT was briefed that anyone armed was a viable target and Vickey was not only viable but a priority recommended target because the profilers said she was akin to the shamen of the group and was a major influence on how and what Randy would do, encouraging him to a hard resistance. I could easily identify and hit a 200 yard target with the iron sights of my service m-16a1. Lon had a scope he knew exactly where his point of aim was. This was govt out of control all the way and was just a part of a series including waco, oklahoma, the towers etc.
As a fellow sniper, I agree with your assessment. There is no way you take the shot without 1-target acquisition and identification 2-knowing what lays behind your target at the point of impact.
Absolutely
When it comes to uncle scam, nothing is ever as it seems.
I'm not a sniper, but checking what's behind your target is one of the top five rules of handling a gun, for Christ's sake. This whole thing was a fiasco. I think a planned fiasco at that. Also during the Clinton Administration. Imagine that. @@FORGOTTENHISTORYCHANNEL
@jasonleveck8546 that's the first time I've ever heard the term "uncle scam" lol, that's about right!
I saw a story on this not too long ago where the writer focused on all of Randy Weavers faults and mis steps but ignored the government's evilness in this event. Thank you for laying out all the facts
M.s.m. No doubt.
Check out some of the interviews with Randy or his daughter, as bad as this sounds there were a lot of facts left out and the whole story is even worse. They were targeted, entrapped and used for example's.
This is an example of the MEDIA and their lies, they are the real enemies of the people, and are still doing it today
R.I.P. to Randy,Vicky, Sammy, New Born & Family Dog. Randy Weaver you are a Hero & True.💯❤️
I was quite involved in following this while it was going on. Several things were left out of the story here or were changed by the government. First, it was discovered that the government were trying to arrest the wife. She was considered an agitator. When the warrant was first set out for Randy, it was decided that the government would trap Randy and his wife. Three agents pretended to be broken down on the road where they knew Randy would be driving over. They had their pickup with a camper beside the road with its hood up. Randy stopped and asked what the problem was. They told him it had died and wouldn't start. He stepped out with his wife, who was pregnant with their last child at the time. Randy was bent over the motor when the two men grabbed him. At the same time, others in the camper came charging out. His wife tried to help Randy and the woman with the government knocked her into the ditch, risking the baby. They were hauled to court and given the court date to appear.
The fiasco of court dates happened as said. But they made no attempt to arrest Randy at that time. Instead they moved in to surround the cabin. It was decided that the dog had to be removed as it would bark if they tried to get close to the house. One of the agents moved close enough to the house while Randy, his friend, and the boy were outside, doing something. The dog began barking and chased the man back up the hill onto the road. The rest of the agents were hiding in the woods on the other side of the road. The boy and the friend thought the dog was chasing a deer. Since they needed meat, they each grabbed a rifle and chased after the dog. The dog ran into the road and the agent there killed it. Just as he shot it, the boy reached the road and saw it. The boy yelled, "You killed my dog!" and fired a shot into the air. Then he turned and ran down the road toward the cabin. The agents, all of them, fired at the boy and killed him. The friend arrived in time to see it. He shot the agent and killed him and then sprayed the woods where the other agents were hiding. They ran. the friend then picked up the boy and took him to the cabin and placed him in the woodshed.
When the family heard what the friend told them, he and Randy went out to the woodshed to see what could be done with the boy. They decided to carry the boy back to the house. Randy was shot at that time. My understanding was that Randy was shot in the stomach rather than the arm. The oldest girl was with them. She helped the friend get Randy up and back to the cabin, positioning the girl between Randy and the direction the shot had come from. The friend went on ahead with the boy's body to tell the wife to get things ready to treat Randy. He went in and the wife, carrying the baby was at the door. The sniper testified that he was trying to shoot the friend standing behind her but it also came out that he had been told that the wife was also a target. When he fired, the bullet went through her head and struck the friend. When she fell, she dropped the baby, who luckily wasn't harmed.
Once Randy was inside, the door was closed and locked. The two girls then bandaged both Randy and his friend. Then the girls guarded the house. Both had their own guns. The agents testified that they didn't know that Randy and his friend were both wounded. But during testimony in court, it came out that the agents had driven a small remote controlled toy car down to the side of the house with a radio on it. The person testifying admitted that they could hear every word spoken inside.
A couple of days later, a reporter on the scene witnessed two agents loading a 30 gallon drum of fuel into the helicopter they were using. He told them that if it was dropped on the cabin, he would have it on the news the nest day. They threatened to arrest him if he did. He told them that the story would still be told along with their threat. They finally gave up and unloaded the fuel drum.
Using the radio on the toy car, they arranged talk with Randy. Randy insisted he would ONLY surrender to his friend from his days as a Green Berete who was also a lawyer. That was finally arranged. He surrendered and everything thereafter was per the story above. The agents spend more time trying to justify everything they had done rather than try to punish Randy. The story as told is from the government viewpoint.
Shooting kids in the back. Shooting women holding a baby. Shooting dogs. Imagine being these federal agents and being in any way proud of being a part of this. Imagine, being Horiuchi and having to look yourself in the mirror every day knowing.
If their family members had any integrity, they would and should have excised them from their lives for the shame they brought down on them.
I can't imagine any of it, but the thing I can't imagine the most is Horiuchi feeling any guilt or remorse.
He probably got a promotion for it
More than one murderer there, including the people who changed the rules of engagement. Who shot the boy!
I'm addicted to the pigger nussy 🐷
Such a tragedy. The ATF should be abolished. The lack of accountability of the government is astonishing. Should not be that way at all
Agreed! But JFK said he was going to scatter the CIA to the Four Winds after the Bay of Pigs Fiasco. Look what happened to him.
You described so much that I had failed to recall or never knew before. Valuable service Collin, Thank you.
They had so much surveillance on that cabin they KNEW there weren’t any hostages. They KNEW Sammy and Vicki were dead when they taunted them about having pancakes for breakfast. Sick
Our government has been out of control for to long as former law enforcement it’s sickening
Your whole mission statement was to crap on the ammendments.
@StandWatie1862 You dont know what you're talking about. I was a deputy sheriff for 7 years. My department preached honesty and professionalism from day one. Anyone caught breaking the law or lying was fired. The vast majority of cops are good people, its the federal brass that have gone off the rails.
@@Kromsmitesyou lies vast majority of white cops are racist
@@Kromsmitesyou Just fired? Whew what a relief 😐
@@Zb.Cooper what do they do at the 7-11 you work at? Illegal activity is up to the DA like everyone else.
This is the most concise and accurate history of Ruby Ridge. i recently discovered your channel and im hooked. Great video to show the Federal Government's encroachment on US civilian
Thanks and welcome
It is not, this video literally ignores MANY MANY facts that would make Weaver look like the instigator. If you present the history, present the facts and do not ignore inconvenient truths. This video is literally propaganda.
@@Thickcurvesyeah, cuz the feds always tell the truth…. Let’s not bring up “facts”
@@Thickcurvesokay. Fill us in. What was missed?
@@Thickcurves You give off the smell of a dirty little Federale, hombre. 💩
Year ago I attended a counter terrorist school with US SWAT teams and they used the ruby ridge as an example of NOT to do. It is interesting that all the Law enforcement i encountered were furious with this useless operation.
Thank you for sharing the information
ATF needs to be disbanded and every ATF agent needs to be investigated for crimes against humanity.
Thanks for watching
ATF is an excellent example of why the Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment in place. Disgraceful...
Yes, but....""There never was a good war, or a bad peace."
Yes but the government will bend the law to get their target
Oh dang, you're such a badass. I bet you have bumper stickers and vote for Trump. Not very smart, are you?
@@exitstay1955Better than being a limp wristed sissy voting for a brain dead communist zombie. 😂
@@exitstay1955Might want to have that terminal TDS treated
R.I.P. Randy Weaver, you died a free man.
He died a free man among so many mentally enslaved. Anyone who thinks they are " free" should try " opting out" and see what violence is brought upon you by order following agents of the state and their boot licking cheerleaders. Its amazing in the land of the fee home of the slave.
Unlike today where men can be tamed with the threat of a time ultimatum. Liberty or death
Indeed. I never knew Randy was from Villisca. That's the first time I have heard someone mention Villisca without it being related to the 1912 Axe Murders.
Amen I deeply believe in that.
Who was charged for the murder of Randy's son shooting him in the back as he was running to his parents. Makes me sick there's NEVER ANY ACCOUNTABILITY
no one
Sara Weaver, Randy's daughter, did a GREAT interview on GSL Uncut. She tells the story from first hand living through it.
Make no mistake, they can do this to any one of us, at any time, for any reason, and walk away scot free.
Be Vigilant.
Be right with God.
Pray for each other.
THIS is the event that broke me, as a 15 y/o high school kid, I learned to never believe the gubment narrative... Thank you Mr Weaver.
Agreed 100%!
Regardless of how many times this family has come up in my life I can’t help but feel outrage and sadness for them. However many billions of dollars laundered through Ukraine and 3.1 million for entrapment of a non violent person and the massacre of his innocent family. What a shame
You got that bloody right luv!
“Laundered” lmfao the money was given to Ukraine to help them defend themselves against a tyrant just as what we would want if we were in the same boat
What turns my stomach more than anything is that this is common knowledge and the people didn't retaliate against the feds for this.
It isnt forgotten, still alive and well in our minds
It might as well have been yesterday.
Yup. That and waco
Thank you for making this one, we must never forget what the govt did at Ruby ridge and Waco and the OKC bombing
And first, WTC bombing.
@@RenegadeRanga also the second.
@@RenegadeRanga I guess you're one of those Islamic apologists.
@@Doug_MIf you think the cave dwellers did that all on their own and dropped a nice package with all their passports intact... God bless you
@@Doug_MWhat?
Great work Collin.
It saddens me so deep inside for that man to lose his son because of a sorry lowdown agent of our government or rather acting in or for our government.
I cannot imagine losing my only son for no good reason or losing him for any reason whatsoever.
I have watched at least two different documentaries on this subject, so I pretty much knew what you said in this video however I did not know that Mr Weaver passed away last year.
There are a few other things that I did not know also.
I guess that's one reason why I appreciate your work so much because it seems to me that no matter if I know about a subject or not there's always more to know and Collin you do a really good job at bringing it to light.
Thanks friend
Excellent reporting.... Thank you
Ruby Ridge is a 4,616-foot mountain ridge in the Kaniksu National Forest in southern Boundary County, Idaho.
The practice of law enforcement encouraging people to break the law then blackmailing them afterwards into being snitches is shameful. If they encourage others to break the law, then they should be punished as well.
Just like the Whitmore plot and J6.
Indeed! Equal justice, no immunity! Just like taking liability away for things from big farma led us to then mandates!
The only time i disagree with this is when officers pretend to be underaged children to catch children lovers
@@arandomcomment8133 You mean pedophiles? How else would they catch them?
In 1980 the FBI entrapped a sitting United States Senator. Without their "sting" called Abscam, there never would have been a crime.
For $5000 in 1983 they bought 20 acres on top of a mountain.
Holy smokes…
Yup inflation destroyed us
Yeah I wished I could strike a deal like that 😮
About $200,000 today, just for the land. Is my understanding.
I'm 4 minutes in. Weaver sounds like a smart fellow
To smart
I meant to add that I found this highly informative and we'll made with excellent use of archive material.
I lived about 60 miles south of Ruby Ridge at the time. The local newspaper, "The Spokesman Review," had a front page arial photo of Randy's cabin and said the Feds were unable to make an arrest. The next day, the shit hit the fan. I think this was the catalyst. The Feds had to prove they were the tough guys.
Thank you for doing a fair video on this. As an Idahoan who had a front row seat to this awful tragedy. It fires me up to this day. I appreciate your fairness & objectivity. I have watched other videos on Ruby Ridge that were distasteful, to say the least.
Only recently have I subscribed to this RUclips page and already I can tell I will enjoy watching all the informational videos this account puts out.
Watching this video made me think it would be interesting to see a video looking at the Philadelphia MOVE bombing of 1985.
Excellent work to Prof. Heaton and his team, looking forward for more informational content.
Thank you for providing subtitles.
Well, there’s no confusion about who shot a twelve year old boy in the back: a paid assassin did it. Euphemistically call him whatever you want, he murdered that boy.
Same thing happened at Waco but on a larger and more horrific (fire) scale.
Would you imbeciles get this through your thick skulls: Sammy Weaver was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD; not ten; not twelve. FOURTEEN. There were fourteen year old veterans of the American Civil War. There were fourteen year olds in the VC.
Ruby Ridge marked the point where I started to wake up. Then came Waco, OK City, 911, etc etc. Now, I have been wide awake for many years. Unfortunately, I live in a world of blind sheep.
Got that bloody right mate!
That's an understatement!
They did the same shit to Lavoy Finicum in Eastern Oregon in 2016. Smaller scale, same tactics.
Amen and it is exhausting trying to wake the sheep up.
Wow, what an amazing story. Thank you. I remember this but did not understand it.
I havent forgotten and never will.
This was a really good informative video to watch. I remember it happening just to young at the time to focus in on it. Thank you for making it.
Thanks for watching! We appreciate your support
would love to see "qualified immunity" challenged (and overturned) in the Supreme Court
Not overturned, reformed.
It's a good thing, useful to society, but needs to be under control and specific.
Too many in any government agencies use it to stay free of their actions, from the cop beating his wife because she's leaving him all the way to the so called "commander in chief" no one is above the law, and the jacka$$es destroying America need to be taken out and tried for their crimes and the appropriate penalties enforced
Yeah it sure as Hell was useful to the Weaver family...
Who do you think invented the illegal Society? Qualified immunity has never been legislated that I know of.
If someone is trespassing on my property, doesn’t identify themselves , and then shoots my dog we are going to have a problem
He didn't miss his court date. The judge arbitrarily changed the court date and did not notify him. He was entrapped by the federal government, and his wife and son were murdered to make an example of him.
Shame on our Law enforcement agencies.
Next, you'll complain about Uvalde.
This episode sent me back to 1993. I was in a meritorious corporal board. I remember the first sergeant asking a question over this event. Me, being a young buck at the time. I did not know. Unfortunately, I did not get meritoriously promoted, but this incident caught my attention. After reviewing what occurred and later in life and current events. My trust over the government has eroded.
It is sad to witness how American citizens forget what the government has done but continue to support it. Don’t get me wrong, we do need a government, but with limited powers.
Thank you,
Thank you for covering this. I have the thought that if this happened today, maybe nobody would have lived to walk off that mountain. And if some how Randy Weaver made it out alive, he would have been locked up for life. And anyone who questioned anything about it would be smeared, dragged through the mud and cancelled.
No confusion about who fired first! They admitted they shot the dog and the boy who ran away when they shot the dog. The sniper killed a clearly visible woman holding a baby. Every fact in the government investigation pointed to these points.
They also glossed over the fact that the undercover agent pressed Weaver for months to get him to saw off the shotgun as a means of getting him to be a mole in the Aryan group that he didn't want to join.
This whole thing was unforgivable.
Federal courts push the sniper murder until they force the state to drop the charges.
Has anyone noticed we always see these violent agents always pose as people needing help? To catch " criminals"?
The government has a "good" program of programming it sounds like lol
Hollywood was apparently *not* warning is about _random_ serial killers with all those hitchhiker/stranded motorists horror movies
These killings are, in fact, very much planned
Similar to what Ted Bundy did to lure his victims.. hmm makes you think 🤔
The FBI sniper got away with murder and now he’s retired with a fat government paycheck
An excellent and well balanced look at this incident.
This has never been forgotten,it just isn’t taught in schools.
All these alphabets agencies should be disbanded. They're all unconstitutional in my opinion.
Great video Sir 👍I remember watching this situation live on TV I wasn't quite old enough to keep and bear arms at that time.
To hear that a young boy was shot in the back by federal agents but officials were not able to determine who fired the shot is the biggest bunch of bu!!!$!t we've ever heard. At this time there was no problem identifying bullets, ballistics, etc.. If a civilian had done the shooting, the "officials" would have told us what caliber and what firearm it came from and that person would be in prison. From "mistakes" made on the date of a court appearance, to innocent children being shot, there was just so much bad in this incident. The fact that no one was ever held accountable is a disgrace.
Agreed. Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
You bet!
You forgot to add the agent was pressing him to make the sawed off
Entrapment
We mentioned it, the judge took that into consideration.
I live in North Idaho and know this story well, including Richard Butler of the previously local Aryan Nation in Hayden. This incident changed my mind about my government, they are not our friends. RIP Randy, you made a difference 🙏🏻
That FBI sniper basically had the Nuremberg defense: he was just following orders.
If anybody says “the government would never do that” oh yes they would
It is apparent that the FBI has done nothing to change its stripes, except becoming more sophisticated in presenting itself to the public.
Moral of the story: Do not fear the individual who you may want to criticize, fear those in power who hate individualism.
That was a wake-up call to us all, which we ignored.
Now look at the mess we're in....
“ Hostage Rescue Team “ * Kills everyone there*
Dude, you can’t make this shit up
Huh, I didn't know the FBI Hostage Rescue Team was involved in this. They were also involved a couple of years ago here in Houston where they killed the hostage. Great job guys! Seems they are out of control. Appears they were never held responsible and no new follow up story.
They were also involved in the Waco siege. They sure do seem to love "rescuing" hostages eh?
Yet, HRT was involved in the Freeman stand off where no one was shot. Explain that one.
@@stevehicks8944 From Wikipedia about the Freeman stand-off (I know not the greatest source in the world) "The similar 1993 standoff in Waco, Texas, involving the Branch Davidians, as well as the 1992 incident between the Weaver family and the FBI at Ruby Ridge, Idaho, were still fresh in the public mind, and the FBI was extremely cautious and wanted to prevent a recurrence of those violent events." With the Ruby Ridge and Waco incidents happening only 3-4 years before that, and the intense public scrutiny pointed at the FBI and ATF after those events, and now another stand-off with in the same realm as those 2 occuring, it would only make sense for them to try and have a somewhat peaceful resolution for this one.
Lon Horiuchi was involved in at Waco; there's alot more to his involvement, would take long time now to tack it down, used to be on YT about 10 years ago...
This seems as good a time as any to mention that you should look up what _really happened_ at Stockholm to make the hostages side with the robbers 😬
Different country but same " procedures "
Anybody remember how the regime media always referred to Weaver as a "white separatist" back then? God forbid that any "white separatists" should go off and live out in the boonies!
Great point! If he was such a pain to the government, wouldn't letting him live in self isolation be the easier course? It wasn't like he was trying to raise an army. Just leave the people alone.
Randy was a Green Berete. The government took the stance that he had sworn an oath to defend the country and therefore should have instantly agreed to join the group of separatists and report on them. He refused which, to the government, made him a criminal.
Who can believe the Government's story? Why not just leave these people alone? They were no harm to anyone.
Don't forger Weaver said no to making the sawed off shotguns multiple times and basically said yes to get the ATF agent to stop harassing him.