As a Middlesbrough man I've seen all this before. Southgate came into the job with good credit as he was a good well loved player for us. He seemed smart, well spoken and informed. He had this idea for a young, dynamic squad focused on quick attacking play and then done nothing but sit back with players who didn't know how to sit back... That's all he knows, he's a defender and naturally reserved but tries to be something else. He's not evolved as a manager in one aspect and I don't think he can. Ultimately we got relegated and he destroyed us, we went from Premier league regulares, cup finalists including Europe to a bog standard championship team. Him being a yes man, a company man moved onwards and upwards. Notice he always makes sure his starters match the ones who are front and centre in all the posters for sponsorship etc.... He only knows one way of doing things and we've basically lucked our way into the places we got in the last few competitions. We will get to the final 8 no doubt then get knocked out in a limp, tired display with zero effort or heart. His way of playing ensures that at a minimum and offers zero risk of injury and creates media hype which sponsors love. More money in that than winning. The system loves him....
@@tonyrichardson2637He needs to take some time out after Euros and wait for either the Chels or Pool job if the incumbents don’t work out. Even better wait until 115 and the honourable man that Pep is he’ll walk and that job could become available. He needs to be kept away from United. We don’t deserve him. One of the others do.😂
You're spot on. He never ever got the England job on merit. He just happened to be there at the right place at the right time, after the Sam Allardyce fiasco. The FA didn't want to spend money on a big name, so keep sticking with Southgate as the cheaper option. Suprise, suprise, money has been the key motive for the FA.
- Couldn’t break down the Scots in the last Euros - Couldn’t break down the USA in Qatar - Trent is ‘an experiment’ (in a major tournament) - Haven’t found a ‘natural replacement for Phillips’ - Playing Foden out of position - Selecting an unfit Luke Shaw Southgate has been atrocious.
@@namouche_helsingcan you not read? Fortunate circumstances, no merit whatsoever. Being 6 years into the job and knocking about minor nations in glorified friendlies is all well and good, but it's nothing but that. maybe he should manage your team if you think him to be the lord saviour and answer to all problems?
You forgot the lack of inclusion of one Tyrick Mitchell. Why was Jack Grealish also left out after his cameo and motm performance against bosnia? Pure and utter ineptitude.
Honestly it must be demanded at this stage. I’m younger than C Ronaldo and in my life time. France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal have all won major international tournaments. It’s a travesty that we have not also. How is that other major European nations with big leagues can win stuff but we can’t. That’s also excluding the fact Denmark, Greece have also won tournaments.
Lol. I've cheered for England since 2010. Only when Southgate got the job that I have some pride because they at least in to last 4 WC 2018, Last 2 Euro 2022. One thing that many pundits criticise England especially English pundits, they are just good at analysing. But can they or do they want to be a manager or England manager? I doubt that. If Southgate goes, please FA break the norm and bring the Female manager of England women team who is a Dutch. If male coach can coach women's team, why not try female coach with men's team?
I heard Germans in Frankfurt singing "Our Economy is twice the size and 4 World Cups" and "There are 10 pot holes in every English road"! Nice Banter from them :)
@@karaperrio-du5gsnot having speed on the wings is part of the problem. Who is Trent supposed to feed? Kane keeps drifting everywhere but where he is supposed to be. If you play Kane as a play maker then Foden isn't required
@@virtualcity721Trent ain’t quick enough to play in midfield absolutely no awareness of players closing him down that midfield should be nothing else but rice Bellingham foden
@@docholiday-lm4vf Not many English fans were making ourselves favorites. Mostly pundits [e.g. Souness] who dont want us to win but heap pressure on us by saying that they are favourites.
Peter Schmeichel is talking absolute nonsense. - Not won a thing since 1966, so why can't we feel like we deserve something with this group of players?? - Says all the other nations are saying they should win the trophy but England fans are in the wrong for saying the same thing. - We don't think we should win something because we have the best league in the world, we think we should win because the group of players we have in the squad have the ability to win something! - SOUTHGATE OUT!!!
England fans must realize that even if you give Southgate the best players in the world he will win you nothing. Newsflash...he has the best squad in the world. 😂😂😂😂. But these pundits love Southgate
Who saw talksport put up a video 13 hours ago titled 'england fans believe in southgate' and disabled the comments, absolute shambles the media in this country hahahaha.
Woke institutions always close ranks when criticised. The way they treat Southgate is a lot like how they defend garbage movies or any other pozzed cultural thing.
Can you imagine what we could achieve with this squad if we had a manager like El Tel or Bob Rob or GT or PT or Cloughy or Big Sam or Alf or Ron…the list goes on…
We all work with scrutiny and expectations. I have my line manager expecting certain levels of success and If I don't deliver then there are consequences. Why do these players not expect to be criticized? It also concerns me that the players dont seem fit enough and thats why they were holding back. When Walker plays for City and they are 1-1 with ten minutes to go dose he sit back then? I think something has happened behind the scenes and its coming through on the match performances
Any footballing fan with an IQ knew how tactically inept Southgate is. He can never adapt the the opponents gameplay and adjustments midgame. England struggle to get into the opponents final third and even when they do they never have a sustained onslaught.
Aren’t we always being told in sports that you set your goals, targets & expectations high? Now (because the media are covering for Southgate) they want you to now NOT have big expectations!! I’m glad Simon and Graeme argue back.
everyone saying we got four points, we top of group, it is going fine. nonsense, if you play like that in the knock outs against germany france spain you will get totally embarrassed
@@emiliorodenasgonzalez8568 I enjoy watching the other teams, but we want england to at least show up, they been the worst team in the tournament. so far. hope it changes.
Southgate has always struggled with adjustments in tournaments and big games. From Croatia onwards he has failed. We qualify, that’s a minimum, we get out the group, that’s expected, we have had some good results, that deserves praise. But ultimately we have failed!!
The words of Schmeichel are brutally true. England medias and fans always put a lot of pressure on their team, they overhyped the players, they claim to be the best, etc... But the truth is France, Spain, Germany, Portugal are selections with much more talent and game identity. Premier League is the best league, but do the english players are the best in it....? You've got your answer.
Players frustrated playing out of position, team not gelling, no energy or command of the ball. How is it so obvious to the fans and pundits but Southgate can’t see it?
Trent makes sense in midfield of you were bringing him on towards the end of a game and you needed to find a pass to break the opponents down. However with England playing slow, unadventerous football with no runners in behind then he is wasted.
This is the sort of thing that means our players don't perform. We can say "oh but they're professionals they're meant to handle pressure" all we want, but the fact is England players haven't been able to cope with ridiculous expectations and pressure "we" put on them and it's been the same story for decades. Southgate is no Pep Guardiola, we know that. A big part of why he's done well is because when he came in from the U21's, expectation was rock bottom after years of disappointment culminating in that appalling Iceland defeat. There was very little pressure on him and the team to perform, and guess what? they did. They played with a freedom and confidence that I'd never seen in my lifetime (I'm 33), before eventually succumbing to pressure in those big moments (Croatia + Italy). Did he tell his players to sit back and defend those leads? no. Did he do that last night against Denmark? no. The players were overcome by the energy and confidence of some very gritty, organised underdogs. Could his tactics and decisions be better at times? I'm sure they could! but let's be real, pressure is clearly a factor. By failing to accept that we (and that includes these pundits) we create a positive feedback loop of negativity that is strangling the players. The only chance we've got of winning this tournament is if we come together and get behind our manager and our team. Otherwise we've got no chance.
It’s not the result that bothers me, it the performance. I do not expect to win every game, but I do expect fight and determination. What you’ve said makes zero sense about Southgate, is it the media’s fault we’re playing 3 RBs? No. Is it the media’s fault he’s playing some our best talent out of position? No. He’s a fraudster. League one manager at best. Look at villa with Gerrard fighting relegation, they get a manager that knows what his doing and are now in the champions league with practically the same team. You can’t blame expectations on England playing this way. Stick to walking in straight lines 😂
While there’s some truth to what you’re saying the overriding elephant in the room here is that Southgate is blatantly out of his depth when it comes to tactics. He is utterly clueless.
More excuses, players can't handle the pressure 😂 , they're not teenagers mate, some have played in the champions league finals & won trophies, every game is filled with pressure. They don't play as a team, and fans are behind the team, but that's not going to change the way the team plays.
@@Leonidas037 I'm not trying to excuse the players at all. I'm just saying it's undeniably a factor. There's different levels of pressure and different types of pressure. I'd argue they're under the worst kind. Sky high expectations, pure venom when you don't win and not much thanks when you do win. The hopes of a whole nation on your shoulders. Social media definitely doesn't help because they're only seeing negativity and anger. Again, I'm not saying it's the only reason, but we need to accept that it is one of the reasons why they bottle it instead of putting it all on Southgate.
It’s all been blown all out of proportion. Very rare a side that goes on to win a tournament does not slip-up. Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia in the 2022 World Cup. Italy drew their first games at the 1982 World Cup & went to win it.
Why would England be “favourites” going into this tournament.. We haven’t won a trophy since 1966, that’s 58 years ago! Then you look at our performances in recent tournaments over the past 2 decades.. We have played 9 nations you would call “Top Nations” and we’ve only won 1! 9 Games, 1 Win… How can we seriously be considered favourites going into the tournament when we LOSE every single time we play a top nation? To win this we’ve gotta beat 3 top nations at the very least!
History has nothing to do with it. France won nothing before 98,spain won nothing before 08.when it's your time you have to grab the opportunity. Southgate threw away euro 2020.
Playing individuals out of position to get them into the team will always have a negative effect ,while also continuing to pick players that have been to 3 or 4 tournaments & failed , England have always been overrated, Germany , France & Spain will have to mess up before England have a chance
It’s crazy to claim England fans or folks in the media are putting pressure on the team to win the tournament because they booed what was an absolutely abject performance. If Kyle Walker or anyone else in the England camp is listening: nobody is suggesting you have to win the thing. We just expect you not to turn up and absolutely stink the place out and then excuse it as “tournament football”.
@familyread7889 No! I've seen it before the management and coaching have a massive impact on performance including the basics. I'm a Villa fan and watched us fail to put 2 passes together under Gerrard for many games. He got sacked and Emery came in.. 1 week later we played fantastic and have done ever since. The players aren't buying into what they are being asked to do, they all look lost as to what they are supposed to be doing, it's a tournament to far for Southgate and we paying the price.
@@phillydavison I’d like to think that in tournament football, they would try and not play to get the manager sacked! That they would forget about what beef they might have, and just get on with it. Your talking about league football, completely different.
Scrutiny in Spain about the national side (La Selección) is the same as in England.....woe betide any player or coach who doesn't live up to expectations. I'm sure it's the same in Italy (probably worse) and similar in other countries.....
A fact that is massively overlooked is how many England players have actually won a PL title? 4-5-6 out of 26 players, it´s NOT a group of winners, but a group of som every good footballers. Several startes are from mid table teams, Kane has won NOTHING, Saka has won NOTHING, Rice has won NOTHING. So stop believing it´s easy to win a Euros...
Accept that England are an average team and then you will be grateful that they have got a win and a draw against two good teams. The media pretends England are a top side so they can criticise the team when they lose..
PICK FIT TEAM on FRIDAY at 13.30pm. Unfit front 4 deprived Trent of passing options as forwards sank deeper. He can't pass to corner flags can he?. He needs Salah & Darwin & Jota like runs to stretch rivals back 3. Trent was let down by Kane's unfitness/hurt back. Trent created most chances & long passes ( in only 54 mins, more than Rice did in 90+ minutes ) Are we gonna waste another world class talent like Hoddle or make it work like Italy did with Pirlo. It's time to go 3-4-3 with Kyle-Dunk-Guehi at the back & Trent on the right & Shaw on the left with Palmer-Watkins-Gordon up front. Gareth should pick the team on Friday at 13.30pm (at Munich time) so that boys can get ready for battle by visualising victory over next 4 sunsets before 4 nice sleeps. Then, after about 9 good nights of sleep, England will have Jude-Saka-Kane & Foden & Stones back to full fitness. With Palmer & Watkins & Gordon ready to come off the bench if energy levels drop again in the KO stages. Don Capello & Didi Hamman are spot on. Watch at 21 mins when Pickford passed the ball to Denmark, leading to 3 mins of pressure in our half. Schmiecal wuda wasted time & calmed his defence down & given them a breather in very humid heavy air. JP did the same in last 3 tournaments & after taking the lead, he becomes too aggressive & he starts giving the ball away. Watch Don Capello's chat on Sky TV after defeat to France in Qatar. Our Italian ex-boss was very frustration at Pickford. 5 - GS made fast good subs but needed to take tired unfit Stones off & go 3-4-3 with Trent out wide & Kyle in a back 3 with Guehi & Dunk (to handle the big Danes). 6 - Harry's bad pass to give goal away was due to a tired brain & body. GS may have to limit him to 30-60 mins a game as he is giving GS the same problem that unfit Jimmy Greaves gave Sir Alf in 1966. Greaves was Englands most clinical finisher & has a better goal per game ratio than Kane, Owen, Shearer & Lineker. Subs were not allowed in 1966 so Sir Alf had to drop Greaves. GS does not need to do that. 7 - Gordon & Palmer have been on 🔥, just like Sir Geoff Hurst was in 1966. As per top pundits Souness & Carra & Shearer. 8 - Messi & Argentina started slowly & lost to low ranked Saudi. Then the old GOAT Messi & thier aging winger & CB all got fit after 3 x OK games. 9 - Carra is spot on, ManC #10 is KDB not nice Foden. Plan B of dropping Jude to 8 may not be as good as Plan A with fully fit Jude Palmer Gordon Watkins giving Trent passing options. Foden & Kane & Saka may have to become impact super subs coming on for the last 30 mins until they get fully fit & catch 🔥 (when they can start) 10 - Don't bash Gareth & the boys. In Qatar the top pundits (possibly Carra & Souness & Pougatch & Sir Kenny D) said Messi will be unstoppable when he gets fully fit & catches fire 🔥. Leo got fit & Did what he Does Best. Get Harry Foden Saka Jude fit by taking the pressure off them in game 3 (as 4 points mean we are in it to win it now. We are in the KO stages). Either rest em in game 3 or use than as super subs in 2nd half. Priority is to peak in the final. Grow game by game. 11 - Calm down. Do yo daily prayers, sleep well, get fully focussed & be brave. As brave Kyle said, tournaments are like the UCL, when the reds ( LFC ) lost 0-3 to Messi Xavi Ineista of Barcelona. 99.9% of pundits wrote off Klopps boys but they still won the cup via that brave corner by Trent. The reds were also losing 0-3 at half time to Don Carlo's AC Milan & still won the trophy via that brave headed goal by Stevie G 🏆. Man U were losing in the 90th minute & still defeated Bayern via that injury time clinical finish by Teddy & Ole. CALM DOWN - PRAY/Meditate WELL - SLEEP WELL - FULLY FOCUSSED - BE BRAVE. Professor AGHaq.
I kind of followed many of your arguments, but I think you need to expand on them a little more. And possibly include some more examples to flesh your points out.
England's football infrastruture is poundfor pound the best on Earth. That alone justifies high expectations! Germany, France, Spain and Italy have similar levels of footballing infrastructure but all have won a WC or Euros in the past 20 years. England is the odd one out! England has produced as good players as them also. Scholes stands up with Ozil, Inzaghi, Iniesta, or Griezzman. Kane is as good as Villa, Muller, Totti, or Benzema. English fans have a RIGHT to high expectations!!
Shocked that Simon is for supporting such behaviour because he portrays himself as a man where context is everything. England are unbeaten. They were unlucky to concede. The fans should look at the bigger picture. Southgate knows what he is doing
This problem goes much deeper than Southgate. It stinks of the whole FA culture of fear, cowardice and arrogance that they are the gatekeepers to the mystique of international tournament football. Just think back over every tournament for decades. Same script, same rationalisation, the same talking yourself out of a power game before anyone has kicked a ball. Most squads have lost before they get on the plane, never mind onto the pitch. The whole FA bureaucracy has to go, as they are the masters of nothing but maintaining their own positions and prestige
Let's be honest, England underperforming is nothing new. I've been watching tournaments since 1990 and it's happened over and over again. I don't think a single player in our current team would get into the starting 11 of the 2004 side, except for maybe Pickford. And what did that side do? Underperform. All the different players over the years, all the different coaches, and ironically, the closest we have ever come is under Southgate. There is either something mentally that happens to our teams at these tournaments, or perhaps more likely, we fail to realize that the prem is simply not that much of a higher standard than other leagues. We like to think it is but it isn't. So when a player like Foden performs so well in the prem, we assume he will be leagues ahead on the international stage and it simply doesn't happen.
Selecting the right team helps. Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Trippier Saka Bellingham Rice Foden or Gordon, Watkins, Kane or Toney Starting team with Subs to come on.
Should of gone after World Cup but kept on If he played people in club positions would help He’ll be gone after we get knocked on in last 16 we’ve got some fantastic attacking players playing like they’ve given up
The other factor is that Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy have all won something in recent history. I think it would be different if England won a tournament..
The most astonising thing is that the English "expert" commentators, journalists and fans had actually expected their team to win easily against a well organised and tactically skilled Danish team that has players from many big clubs around Europe, and who are therefore used to this level and tempo. The Danes on the other hand already knew in advance that they stood a fair chance of getting a good result against England - especially after watching their ratger poor match against Serbia and how many problems England had playing forward from around their penalty area region when they were being pressured very aggressively.
Fans have spent an arm and a leg to watch that horrible England performance yesterday. Given that we have a cost of living crisis going on while these players are paid millions per year fans have every reason to boo after that cowardly performance. And if we want to talk about pressure? Pshh you don't think in the last world cup France were under pressure to retain it? You don't think Italy in the last Euros were under pressure themselves as the 4 times world champions? You don't think Germany are under pressure this tournament to win a trophy in front of their fans? Sod off the pressure from the media nonsense. Every country faces pressure before a tournament the only difference is England fold so easily under pressure after playing just two games in this tournament.
People ridicule Southgate for saying no replacement for Phillips but what he means is there’s no natural defensive midfielder in the team. Rice has just had his best season playing as 8. Play a 4-3-3 with midfield of Wharton, and then Bellingham and Rice as 8s and then watch
SJ talking dross about transfer windows. It was available in November when Peter played for Utd as the transfer windows didnt start in England until 2002-2003 :-)
The difference is the top teams go out to win the tournament and its drilled into them. Our team are worrying about what people think, who said what, who called them names and the hatters. The best way to shut up the haters is to win. They are so privileged to be representing our country, I wish they would act like it. They just need to grow some and get a winning mentality.
If Musiala chose England he probably wouldn't be selected for the squad. Look what happened to Sancho. If he was German he might be the best player at the tournament
The problem is that most teams try to play out from the back and only barcelona of old and man city as of now can do it properly and winning the ball back think ive got a coach in mind who knows how to do it
The best managers do not manage national teams until they want a part-time job just before retirement. Southgate is NOT a top manager. He has NEVER been tested and been victorious as a manager at the highest level. It’s not his fault…he just isn’t good enough.
I don't think you should ever boo your own team. Part of being loyal is taking the bad times, outwardly showing unity, but criticising behind closed doors. You never dress down your own in front of the world, that creates division and shows weakness.
Harry Redknapp is the only British Manager to have one a thing for 20 years before Moyes won something with West Ham… yet we choose two mid table, championship experts in Hodgson and FA Yes boy Southgate
The problem is the same as always. The newspapers and sports commentators all seem to have England winning these tournaments before they’ve even got on the plane. The players are under enormous pressure to live up to expectations. There are not many duff teams in these competitions- it’s possible, with a slice of luck, that any team can beat any team.
What none of these Media are pointing out the reason why the EPL is so good with talent is not the English Players is the FOREIGN PLAYERS and FOREIGN COACHES simple as
People that had us as favorites are insane beyond belief, we in a bracket with Italy and Holland as outsiders. Spain France Portugal and Germany the best teams. As soon as we play one of them we are out, maybe before then. Our media is the worst the pressures unreal
Of course the fans can boo. They've shelled out near to £1bn to be in Germany, when you include all the fans just going to fan zones, to watch games in bars etc etc. If you reckon it's 500k people and you reckon the average cost is over a grand, do the maths. It's extremely disrespectful of the players if they can't respect that level of investment.....
The negativity has been building for a while now and whilst criticisms of the team and manager may well be warranted the level of negativity from media and fans also plays a part. But this is what us English do… we never learn
Drop Trent, put Bellingham alongside Rice, move Foden into the centre, and get Gordon wide, give us some width. If shaw is fit, then we have a better balance all round. If you dont play Gordon, play Palmer, but change it, Gareth, for god sake.
Right, if they play bad, than this isca fact and everybody has the right to say that. BUT! It is the form of saying that. They play/fight for you. So it is your task to help/supporting that Team. You are the 12th man (like we say in Germany). With that in mind, how would you rate the performance of the 12th? But in England is more, "the have millions! WE have make them! They are supposed to fight me, of course..." That is the tricky thing, in every Nation. To find the right tone. And for this task, the UK-/US-Media have the worst conceivable Conditions. Your have the potential to change that/something. But you just never do something in a different/better way... But in the same time your expect that from a team who/wile it has the Potential, but just never change something... Paradox! You realize that... 👀
Fans have been screaming for years to pick players in form for england and look whats happened we have an imbalanced squad with no left sided players. Grealish and Rashford should be there regardless of form because they are the best 2 players we have in that position. Also chilwell should be there.
For a moment there i thought they were going to bring up the Ivory Coast sacking their manager at AFCON and end up winning at as a solution for England. Since all talksports other videos bring it up
southgate thinks attacking football is toxic masculinity.
😂😂 sounds personal
Gareth Moyesgate
Defenders make rubbish coaches
😂😂😂😂
It's that word "attacking". I'm sure it sounds so harmful to Southgate that he almost has an attack. He only likes bowing down...😏
Goated comment that 😂😂😂😂
As a Middlesbrough man I've seen all this before. Southgate came into the job with good credit as he was a good well loved player for us. He seemed smart, well spoken and informed. He had this idea for a young, dynamic squad focused on quick attacking play and then done nothing but sit back with players who didn't know how to sit back... That's all he knows, he's a defender and naturally reserved but tries to be something else. He's not evolved as a manager in one aspect and I don't think he can. Ultimately we got relegated and he destroyed us, we went from Premier league regulares, cup finalists including Europe to a bog standard championship team. Him being a yes man, a company man moved onwards and upwards. Notice he always makes sure his starters match the ones who are front and centre in all the posters for sponsorship etc....
He only knows one way of doing things and we've basically lucked our way into the places we got in the last few competitions. We will get to the final 8 no doubt then get knocked out in a limp, tired display with zero effort or heart. His way of playing ensures that at a minimum and offers zero risk of injury and creates media hype which sponsors love. More money in that than winning. The system loves him....
all English fans will be crapping themselves when he becomes a free agent after we get knockout, if they get him as there manager lol.
Where bouts in boro you from, I'm from hemo lol sadly 😂
@@tonyrichardson2637He needs to take some time out after Euros and wait for either the Chels or Pool job if the incumbents don’t work out. Even better wait until 115 and the honourable man that Pep is he’ll walk and that job could become available. He needs to be kept away from United. We don’t deserve him. One of the others do.😂
You're spot on. He never ever got the England job on merit. He just happened to be there at the right place at the right time, after the Sam Allardyce fiasco. The FA didn't want to spend money on a big name, so keep sticking with Southgate as the cheaper option. Suprise, suprise, money has been the key motive for the FA.
And that my friends…sums it up perfectly
- Couldn’t break down the Scots in the last Euros
- Couldn’t break down the USA in Qatar
- Trent is ‘an experiment’ (in a major tournament)
- Haven’t found a ‘natural replacement for Phillips’
- Playing Foden out of position
- Selecting an unfit Luke Shaw
Southgate has been atrocious.
But he's been your most successful manager since 66.
@@namouche_helsingdespite him
@@namouche_helsingbut when we are favourites to win the tournament that is what we should expect to see. He is England’s downfall!
@@namouche_helsingcan you not read? Fortunate circumstances, no merit whatsoever. Being 6 years into the job and knocking about minor nations in glorified friendlies is all well and good, but it's nothing but that. maybe he should manage your team if you think him to be the lord saviour and answer to all problems?
You forgot the lack of inclusion of one Tyrick Mitchell.
Why was Jack Grealish also left out after his cameo and motm performance against bosnia?
Pure and utter ineptitude.
musiala dodged a bullet picking germany over england
I see a good LB in him 😅
stop waffling and get on with it
He'd Be on the Bench knowing Southgate! Probably Bring him on 85th minute LOL
So did Ben white
Musiala- IQ well above average!
If it's ok for fans to cheer when you play well. We have a right jeer when we perform badly also.
stop waffling and get on with it
Your shite and you know you are your shite and you know you are sing along
Honestly it must be demanded at this stage. I’m younger than C Ronaldo and in my life time. France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal have all won major international tournaments. It’s a travesty that we have not also. How is that other major European nations with big leagues can win stuff but we can’t. That’s also excluding the fact Denmark, Greece have also won tournaments.
Well said. Southgate hasn't been manager since 1966. England underperform due to being England. Not only because of Southgate.
I think is because the weather..in england..lol
stop waffling and get on with it
Lol. I've cheered for England since 2010. Only when Southgate got the job that I have some pride because they at least in to last 4 WC 2018, Last 2 Euro 2022. One thing that many pundits criticise England especially English pundits, they are just good at analysing. But can they or do they want to be a manager or England manager? I doubt that. If Southgate goes, please FA break the norm and bring the Female manager of England women team who is a Dutch. If male coach can coach women's team, why not try female coach with men's team?
Big shout to the guy clearing the water off the chairs
I reckon he got water on his shoes though. Careless with the squeegee.
@@cb01ttr I clocked that too. Very, very sloppy technique. Half-assed.
I agree very poor form,
stop waffling and get on with it
Probably coached by Southgate.
I heard Germans in Frankfurt singing "Our Economy is twice the size and 4 World Cups" and "There are 10 pot holes in every English road"! Nice Banter from them :)
Ja ha..that,s true!..and you not been ashamed?
Only ten?
@@chrisglew6429must be talking about the roads in London
economy isn't twice, it's like 1.5
stop waffling and get on with it
Not playing Cole Palmer yesterday was criminal 🙃
England would only moan then that Foden or someone else didn't play 😂 England always blame the manager when players don't show up. 😂
@@alibabashero good grief, your anti england bias has clouded your judgment beyond repair my man
not having Grealish was the greater mistake
@@karaperrio-du5gsnot having speed on the wings is part of the problem. Who is Trent supposed to feed? Kane keeps drifting everywhere but where he is supposed to be. If you play Kane as a play maker then Foden isn't required
@@virtualcity721Trent ain’t quick enough to play in midfield absolutely no awareness of players closing him down that midfield should be nothing else but rice Bellingham foden
What is the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different result.......
Thats like English fans and pundits constantly making them favourites and not understand why they dont win
@@docholiday-lm4vf Exactly. Bloody Groundhog Day every two years
@@docholiday-lm4vf Not many English fans were making ourselves favorites. Mostly pundits [e.g. Souness] who dont want us to win but heap pressure on us by saying that they are favourites.
@@roxammon5858 England had been the pre-tournament betting favorite since the lines were released
Then they started playing 😂
stop waffling and get on with it
It's obviously not the players. It's the Manager and his coaching staff being too weak.
stop waffling and get on with it
They completely stunk the place out yesterday what do you want the fans to do. Denmark dominating England in all areas is shocking.
stop waffling and get on with it
Peter Schmeichel is talking absolute nonsense.
- Not won a thing since 1966, so why can't we feel like we deserve something with this group of players??
- Says all the other nations are saying they should win the trophy but England fans are in the wrong for saying the same thing.
- We don't think we should win something because we have the best league in the world, we think we should win because the group of players we have in the squad have the ability to win something!
- SOUTHGATE OUT!!!
stop waffling and get on with it
Smichael euro winner champs league winner treble winner
YOUR OVERATED
England fans must realize that even if you give Southgate the best players in the world he will win you nothing. Newsflash...he has the best squad in the world. 😂😂😂😂. But these pundits love Southgate
Imagine having a Ferrari and driving it like a Fiat, no I can't either but England have done it.
stop waffling and get on with it
@thejollyguitarist1785 just tune your guitar
Who saw talksport put up a video 13 hours ago titled 'england fans believe in southgate' and disabled the comments, absolute shambles the media in this country hahahaha.
stop waffling and get on with it
Woke institutions always close ranks when criticised. The way they treat Southgate is a lot like how they defend garbage movies or any other pozzed cultural thing.
Imagine spending that sort of money to travel and watch that absolute shower and then be told we dont have a right to criticise them.
Look at the attitude New Zealander's have towards the rugby team when they lose/play badly. It's called a winning mentality
But England don’t win
Totally different... football is a world game... rugby isn't and new Zealand have all the best player's
stop waffling and get on with it
@leeturton9254 you obviously know very little about this.
@@surabaya5927 What he said is not incorrect though.
Of course the booing was justified. The performance was abysmal. The players looked three yards off the pace and half asleep.
Southgate has been successful in turning players in to a squad but had been a complete failure as a coach, tactics, substitutions have been dreadful.
stop waffling and get on with it
@@thejollyguitarist1785 that's what your Mum says
Can you imagine what we could achieve with this squad if we had a manager like El Tel or Bob Rob or GT or PT or Cloughy or Big Sam or Alf or Ron…the list goes on…
El Tel would have this team hitting four or five a game.
@@Devypocalypse deffers…dunno about you bruv…but I is gutted
stop waffling and get on with it
@@thejollyguitarist1785 get on with what ?
We all work with scrutiny and expectations. I have my line manager expecting certain levels of success and If I don't deliver then there are consequences. Why do these players not expect to be criticized? It also concerns me that the players dont seem fit enough and thats why they were holding back. When Walker plays for City and they are 1-1 with ten minutes to go dose he sit back then? I think something has happened behind the scenes and its coming through on the match performances
Any footballing fan with an IQ knew how tactically inept Southgate is. He can never adapt the the opponents gameplay and adjustments midgame.
England struggle to get into the opponents final third and even when they do they never have a sustained onslaught.
Any football fan understands favourites are always nations who know how to win and not a nation who never ever win
stop waffling and get on with it
England are not as good as we think we are
Individual talent yes, team talent no
Aren’t we always being told in sports that you set your goals, targets & expectations high? Now (because the media are covering for Southgate) they want you to now NOT have big expectations!! I’m glad Simon and Graeme argue back.
stop waffling and get on with it
everyone saying we got four points, we top of group, it is going fine. nonsense, if you play like that in the knock outs against germany france spain you will get totally embarrassed
Yes..that,s why better you havecto stay at home drinking beers and watching in tv how the others play well..lol
stop waffling and get on with it
It's just a low-IQ copium take. Most people can see we're in big trouble and we're going to get our arses handed to us in the knockout stages.
@@emiliorodenasgonzalez8568 I enjoy watching the other teams, but we want england to at least show up, they been the worst team in the tournament. so far. hope it changes.
Southgate has always struggled with adjustments in tournaments and big games. From Croatia onwards he has failed. We qualify, that’s a minimum, we get out the group, that’s expected, we have had some good results, that deserves praise. But ultimately we have failed!!
stop waffling and get on with it
The French, Germans, Spain, Portugal, Italy, even the Danes Dutch & Czechs have won things. We have not!!!
stop waffling and get on with it
Greece and Sweden
Its not often i agree with Simon , the main problem with England team is Southgate, a child would pick a better team & much better at tactics
stop waffling and get on with it
The words of Schmeichel are brutally true. England medias and fans always put a lot of pressure on their team, they overhyped the players, they claim to be the best, etc... But the truth is France, Spain, Germany, Portugal are selections with much more talent and game identity. Premier League is the best league, but do the english players are the best in it....? You've got your answer.
have you seen the squad, literally some of the best players in the world. you're waffling, the only problem is management, not the players.
Players frustrated playing out of position, team not gelling, no energy or command of the ball.
How is it so obvious to the fans and pundits but Southgate can’t see it?
stop waffling and get on with it
Please please please make Southgate the next Man Utd manager. I can't get enough of his managerial genius.
Trent makes sense in midfield of you were bringing him on towards the end of a game and you needed to find a pass to break the opponents down. However with England playing slow, unadventerous football with no runners in behind then he is wasted.
@delboy013
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Yep, he’s a last 25mins move as long as you bring on some pace and runners with him (Gordon and Watkins/Toney) to cross/long pass to
play trent at right back and switch walker to left back and drop kane for maybe watkins
stop waffling and get on with it
This is the sort of thing that means our players don't perform. We can say "oh but they're professionals they're meant to handle pressure" all we want, but the fact is England players haven't been able to cope with ridiculous expectations and pressure "we" put on them and it's been the same story for decades. Southgate is no Pep Guardiola, we know that. A big part of why he's done well is because when he came in from the U21's, expectation was rock bottom after years of disappointment culminating in that appalling Iceland defeat. There was very little pressure on him and the team to perform, and guess what? they did. They played with a freedom and confidence that I'd never seen in my lifetime (I'm 33), before eventually succumbing to pressure in those big moments (Croatia + Italy). Did he tell his players to sit back and defend those leads? no. Did he do that last night against Denmark? no. The players were overcome by the energy and confidence of some very gritty, organised underdogs. Could his tactics and decisions be better at times? I'm sure they could! but let's be real, pressure is clearly a factor. By failing to accept that we (and that includes these pundits) we create a positive feedback loop of negativity that is strangling the players.
The only chance we've got of winning this tournament is if we come together and get behind our manager and our team. Otherwise we've got no chance.
It’s not the result that bothers me, it the performance. I do not expect to win every game, but I do expect fight and determination. What you’ve said makes zero sense about Southgate, is it the media’s fault we’re playing 3 RBs? No. Is it the media’s fault he’s playing some our best talent out of position? No. He’s a fraudster. League one manager at best. Look at villa with Gerrard fighting relegation, they get a manager that knows what his doing and are now in the champions league with practically the same team. You can’t blame expectations on England playing this way. Stick to walking in straight lines 😂
While there’s some truth to what you’re saying the overriding elephant in the room here is that Southgate is blatantly out of his depth when it comes to tactics. He is utterly clueless.
More excuses, players can't handle the pressure 😂 , they're not teenagers mate, some have played in the champions league finals & won trophies, every game is filled with pressure. They don't play as a team, and fans are behind the team, but that's not going to change the way the team plays.
@@Leonidas037 I'm not trying to excuse the players at all. I'm just saying it's undeniably a factor. There's different levels of pressure and different types of pressure. I'd argue they're under the worst kind. Sky high expectations, pure venom when you don't win and not much thanks when you do win. The hopes of a whole nation on your shoulders. Social media definitely doesn't help because they're only seeing negativity and anger. Again, I'm not saying it's the only reason, but we need to accept that it is one of the reasons why they bottle it instead of putting it all on Southgate.
Rice, Bellingham, Foden & 2 wingers,, pressing with more aggression.
Sick of sayin it, sick of England.
Yet west ham fans should have been "careful what you wish for' Southgate is Moyes mk 2
stop waffling and get on with it
@@Cristobal_2012 😂😂😂👍
Moysey would do a better job 😂
Moyes got over the line
The English media talking about the English media.
I stopped supporting England when they started taking the knee! It’s a shame Denmark didn’t get the second goal
I’m the same
It’s all been blown all out of proportion. Very rare a side that goes on to win a tournament does not slip-up. Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia in the 2022 World Cup. Italy drew their first games at the 1982 World Cup & went to win it.
Turgid is a polite way to describe the performance yesterday! : )
Constipated is better.
stop waffling and get on with it
Why would England be “favourites” going into this tournament.. We haven’t won a trophy since 1966, that’s 58 years ago!
Then you look at our performances in recent tournaments over the past 2 decades.. We have played 9 nations you would call “Top Nations” and we’ve only won 1!
9 Games, 1 Win…
How can we seriously be considered favourites going into the tournament when we LOSE every single time we play a top nation? To win this we’ve gotta beat 3 top nations at the very least!
58 years.... blimey, I wonder if any of us will live to see England lift the World cup again 🙄
The Czechs got to a world cup final and 2 euro finals won 1 the Greeks won a euro the Danes won a euro
History has nothing to do with it. France won nothing before 98,spain won nothing before 08.when it's your time you have to grab the opportunity. Southgate threw away euro 2020.
Turgid...
As an ESL I always learn new vocab when England is playing bad.
Moribund. There's another word to describe England. You're welcome. 😉
stop waffling and get on with it
@@thejollyguitarist1785 Egregious.
Going into an international tournament with a coach that is flat out bad is always going to go badly.
Second most successful manager England have had.
One downside about playing in the most popular league is that your players are a known entity.
complete sense from both guests
Danny Mills is very quiet. He'll be at home, getting Southgates comfort blanket ready
Playing individuals out of position to get them into the team will always have a negative effect ,while also continuing to pick players that have been to 3 or 4 tournaments & failed , England have always been overrated, Germany , France & Spain will have to mess up before England have a chance
stop waffling and get on with it
It’s crazy to claim England fans or folks in the media are putting pressure on the team to win the tournament because they booed what was an absolutely abject performance. If Kyle Walker or anyone else in the England camp is listening: nobody is suggesting you have to win the thing. We just expect you not to turn up and absolutely stink the place out and then excuse it as “tournament football”.
It's unbelievable that Southgate is the England manager he wouldn't get a job in the premier league or championship
High class players.
League 2 standard manager and assistants.
High class players who couldn’t put two passes together, and lost possession more times than I can count.
They to blame just as much as Southgate
@familyread7889 No! I've seen it before the management and coaching have a massive impact on performance including the basics. I'm a Villa fan and watched us fail to put 2 passes together under Gerrard for many games. He got sacked and Emery came in.. 1 week later we played fantastic and have done ever since. The players aren't buying into what they are being asked to do, they all look lost as to what they are supposed to be doing, it's a tournament to far for Southgate and we paying the price.
@@phillydavison I’d like to think that in tournament football, they would try and not play to get the manager sacked!
That they would forget about what beef they might have, and just get on with it.
Your talking about league football, completely different.
Scrutiny in Spain about the national side (La Selección) is the same as in England.....woe betide any player or coach who doesn't live up to expectations. I'm sure it's the same in Italy (probably worse) and similar in other countries.....
Protecting South Gate is there priority
*their
Respectfully we shouldn't boo the players. There's only one person to blame n its Southgate
stop waffling and get on with it
You’re not a jolly guitarist you’re an annoying c un t spamming rubbish
When players play well, they get cheered, & when they play badly they get booed, its really simple ! !.
A fact that is massively overlooked is how many England players have actually won a PL title? 4-5-6 out of 26 players, it´s NOT a group of winners, but a group of som every good footballers. Several startes are from mid table teams, Kane has won NOTHING, Saka has won NOTHING, Rice has won NOTHING. So stop believing it´s easy to win a Euros...
Accept that England are an average team and then you will be grateful that they have got a win and a draw against two good teams. The media pretends England are a top side so they can criticise the team when they lose..
have you seen the squad bro, this should be a top team. fully justified in our expectations.
Difference between expecting to win the tournament and expecting to at least play well.
stop waffling and get on with it
PICK FIT TEAM on FRIDAY at 13.30pm. Unfit front 4 deprived Trent of passing options as forwards sank deeper. He can't pass to corner flags can he?. He needs Salah & Darwin & Jota like runs to stretch rivals back 3.
Trent was let down by Kane's unfitness/hurt back. Trent created most chances & long passes ( in only 54 mins, more than Rice did in 90+ minutes )
Are we gonna waste another world class talent like Hoddle or make it work like Italy did with Pirlo.
It's time to go 3-4-3 with Kyle-Dunk-Guehi at the back &
Trent on the right & Shaw on the left with Palmer-Watkins-Gordon up front.
Gareth should pick the team on Friday at 13.30pm (at Munich time) so that boys can get ready for battle by visualising victory over next 4 sunsets before 4 nice sleeps.
Then, after about 9 good nights of sleep, England will have Jude-Saka-Kane & Foden & Stones back to full fitness. With Palmer & Watkins & Gordon ready to come off the bench if energy levels drop again in the KO stages.
Don Capello & Didi Hamman are spot on. Watch at 21 mins when Pickford passed the ball to Denmark, leading to 3 mins of pressure in our half. Schmiecal wuda wasted time & calmed his defence down & given them a breather in very humid heavy air.
JP did the same in last 3 tournaments & after taking the lead, he becomes too aggressive & he starts giving the ball away.
Watch Don Capello's chat on Sky TV after defeat to France in Qatar. Our Italian ex-boss was very frustration at Pickford.
5 - GS made fast good subs but needed to take tired unfit Stones off & go 3-4-3 with Trent out wide & Kyle in a back 3 with Guehi & Dunk (to handle the big Danes).
6 - Harry's bad pass to give goal away was due to a tired brain & body. GS may have to limit him to 30-60 mins a game as he is giving GS the same problem that unfit Jimmy Greaves gave Sir Alf in 1966.
Greaves was Englands most clinical finisher & has a better goal per game ratio than Kane, Owen, Shearer & Lineker. Subs were not allowed in 1966 so Sir Alf had to drop Greaves. GS does not need to do that.
7 - Gordon & Palmer have been on 🔥, just like Sir Geoff Hurst was in 1966. As per top pundits Souness & Carra & Shearer.
8 - Messi & Argentina started slowly & lost to low ranked Saudi. Then the old GOAT Messi & thier aging winger & CB all got fit after 3 x OK games.
9 - Carra is spot on, ManC #10 is KDB not nice Foden. Plan B of dropping Jude to 8 may not be as good as Plan A with fully fit Jude Palmer Gordon Watkins giving Trent passing options. Foden & Kane & Saka may have to become impact super subs coming on for the last 30 mins until they get fully fit & catch 🔥 (when they can start)
10 - Don't bash Gareth & the boys.
In Qatar the top pundits (possibly Carra & Souness & Pougatch & Sir Kenny D) said Messi will be unstoppable when he gets fully fit & catches fire 🔥. Leo got fit & Did what he Does Best.
Get Harry Foden Saka Jude fit by taking the pressure off them in game 3 (as 4 points mean we are in it to win it now. We are in the KO stages).
Either rest em in game 3 or use than as super subs in 2nd half. Priority is to peak in the final. Grow game by game.
11 - Calm down. Do yo daily prayers, sleep well, get fully focussed & be brave.
As brave Kyle said, tournaments are like the UCL, when the reds ( LFC ) lost 0-3 to Messi Xavi Ineista of Barcelona. 99.9% of pundits wrote off Klopps boys but they still won the cup via that brave corner by Trent.
The reds were also losing 0-3 at half time to Don Carlo's AC Milan & still won the trophy via that brave headed goal by Stevie G 🏆.
Man U were losing in the 90th minute & still defeated Bayern via that injury time clinical finish by Teddy & Ole.
CALM DOWN -
PRAY/Meditate WELL -
SLEEP WELL -
FULLY FOCUSSED -
BE BRAVE.
Professor AGHaq.
Not reading all that.
Give it a rest lad
I kind of followed many of your arguments, but I think you need to expand on them a little more. And possibly include some more examples to flesh your points out.
Probably one of souness' best takes
England's football infrastruture is poundfor pound the best on Earth. That alone justifies high expectations! Germany, France, Spain and Italy have similar levels of footballing infrastructure but all have won a WC or Euros in the past 20 years. England is the odd one out! England has produced as good players as them also. Scholes stands up with Ozil, Inzaghi, Iniesta, or Griezzman. Kane is as good as Villa, Muller, Totti, or Benzema. English fans have a RIGHT to high expectations!!
It,s basically the way you play..old school..old tactics
Shocked that Simon is for supporting such behaviour because he portrays himself as a man where context is everything. England are unbeaten. They were unlucky to concede. The fans should look at the bigger picture. Southgate knows what he is doing
This problem goes much deeper than Southgate. It stinks of the whole FA culture of fear, cowardice and arrogance that they are the gatekeepers to the mystique of international tournament football. Just think back over every tournament for decades. Same script, same rationalisation, the same talking yourself out of a power game before anyone has kicked a ball. Most squads have lost before they get on the plane, never mind onto the pitch.
The whole FA bureaucracy has to go, as they are the masters of nothing but maintaining their own positions and prestige
Let's be honest, England underperforming is nothing new. I've been watching tournaments since 1990 and it's happened over and over again. I don't think a single player in our current team would get into the starting 11 of the 2004 side, except for maybe Pickford. And what did that side do? Underperform. All the different players over the years, all the different coaches, and ironically, the closest we have ever come is under Southgate. There is either something mentally that happens to our teams at these tournaments, or perhaps more likely, we fail to realize that the prem is simply not that much of a higher standard than other leagues. We like to think it is but it isn't. So when a player like Foden performs so well in the prem, we assume he will be leagues ahead on the international stage and it simply doesn't happen.
Selecting the right team helps.
Pickford
Walker Stones Guehi Trippier
Saka Bellingham Rice Foden or Gordon,
Watkins, Kane or Toney
Starting team with Subs to come on.
I rarely agree with Souness but he was bang-on with his assessment.
Should of gone after World Cup but kept on
If he played people in club positions would help
He’ll be gone after we get knocked on in last 16 we’ve got some fantastic attacking players playing like they’ve given up
The other factor is that Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy have all won something in recent history. I think it would be different if England won a tournament..
It’s tournament football as long as we win or draw then no panic!
we cannot win anything by scoring then parking the bus and sitting back inviting constant pressure, they need to press and not desert the midfield
your standards and expectations are lower in the ground than my nan
Premier league is amazing because we have great manergers and players that aren't English
What you get with southgate as manager
stop waffling and get on with it
@thejollyguitarist1785 waffling? Just stating facts he's a terrible manager
If you loaned southgate a goldfish it would come back barking.
The most astonising thing is that the English "expert" commentators, journalists and fans had actually expected their team to win easily against a well organised and tactically skilled Danish team that has players from many big clubs around Europe, and who are therefore used to this level and tempo.
The Danes on the other hand already knew in advance that they stood a fair chance of getting a good result against England - especially after watching their ratger poor match against Serbia and how many problems England had playing forward from around their penalty area region when they were being pressured very aggressively.
Fans have spent an arm and a leg to watch that horrible England performance yesterday. Given that we have a cost of living crisis going on while these players are paid millions per year fans have every reason to boo after that cowardly performance. And if we want to talk about pressure? Pshh you don't think in the last world cup France were under pressure to retain it? You don't think Italy in the last Euros were under pressure themselves as the 4 times world champions? You don't think Germany are under pressure this tournament to win a trophy in front of their fans? Sod off the pressure from the media nonsense. Every country faces pressure before a tournament the only difference is England fold so easily under pressure after playing just two games in this tournament.
People ridicule Southgate for saying no replacement for Phillips but what he means is there’s no natural defensive midfielder in the team. Rice has just had his best season playing as 8. Play a 4-3-3 with midfield of Wharton, and then Bellingham and Rice as 8s and then watch
SJ talking dross about transfer windows. It was available in November when Peter played for Utd as the transfer windows didnt start in England until 2002-2003 :-)
The difference is the top teams go out to win the tournament and its drilled into them. Our team are worrying about what people think, who said what, who called them names and the hatters. The best way to shut up the haters is to win. They are so privileged to be representing our country, I wish they would act like it. They just need to grow some and get a winning mentality.
If Musiala chose England he probably wouldn't be selected for the squad. Look what happened to Sancho. If he was German he might be the best player at the tournament
The problem is that most teams try to play out from the back and only barcelona of old and man city as of now can do it properly and winning the ball back think ive got a coach in mind who knows how to do it
The best managers do not manage national teams until they want a part-time job just before retirement. Southgate is NOT a top manager. He has NEVER been tested and been victorious as a manager at the highest level. It’s not his fault…he just isn’t good enough.
Spot on Souness!! Check ya bank accounts & deal with pressure or become a plumber instead
I don't think you should ever boo your own team. Part of being loyal is taking the bad times, outwardly showing unity, but criticising behind closed doors. You never dress down your own in front of the world, that creates division and shows weakness.
The truth is English players aren’t that good .they only look good when playing club football because of the talent from their foreign team mates.
Harry Redknapp is the only British Manager to have one a thing for 20 years before Moyes won something with West Ham… yet we choose two mid table, championship experts in Hodgson and FA Yes boy Southgate
stop waffling and get on with it
Oh shut up and go pretend to play the guitar
Poser!
Simon Jordan as England manager, yes please!
The problem is the same as always. The newspapers and sports commentators all seem to have England winning these tournaments before they’ve even got on the plane. The players are under enormous pressure to live up to expectations. There are not many duff teams in these competitions- it’s possible, with a slice of luck, that any team can beat any team.
Simon celebrating soon as Graeme started speaking is priceless 😂
Any fan that pays that kind of money has every right to boo
What none of these Media are pointing out the reason why the EPL is so good with talent is not the English Players is the FOREIGN PLAYERS and FOREIGN COACHES simple as
And he is completing right…so many people massively overhype our players acting as if it’s the best team ever made. It’s beyond ridiculous
People that had us as favorites are insane beyond belief, we in a bracket with Italy and Holland as outsiders. Spain France Portugal and Germany the best teams. As soon as we play one of them we are out, maybe before then. Our media is the worst the pressures unreal
Of course the fans can boo. They've shelled out near to £1bn to be in Germany, when you include all the fans just going to fan zones, to watch games in bars etc etc. If you reckon it's 500k people and you reckon the average cost is over a grand, do the maths. It's extremely disrespectful of the players if they can't respect that level of investment.....
If you're going to attribute the booing to anybody, it's probably seventy five percent in the favour of southgate.
The negativity has been building for a while now and whilst criticisms of the team and manager may well be warranted the level of negativity from media and fans also plays a part.
But this is what us English do… we never learn
Ha ha..never at all..that,s why Brexit
Drop Trent, put Bellingham alongside Rice, move Foden into the centre, and get Gordon wide, give us some width.
If shaw is fit, then we have a better balance all round. If you dont play Gordon, play Palmer, but change it, Gareth, for god sake.
As a west ham fan I'm finding this all very funny.
i found the multiple times you got battered by five or six goals last season pretty funny
@@kaioneil-bp5rr the third time it happened even I found it funny
Right, if they play bad, than this isca fact and everybody has the right to say that.
BUT! It is the form of saying that.
They play/fight for you. So it is your task to help/supporting that Team.
You are the 12th man (like we say in Germany).
With that in mind, how would you rate the performance of the 12th?
But in England is more, "the have millions! WE have make them! They are supposed to fight me, of course..."
That is the tricky thing, in every Nation. To find the right tone.
And for this task, the UK-/US-Media have the worst conceivable Conditions.
Your have the potential to change that/something. But you just never do something in a different/better way...
But in the same time your expect that from a team who/wile it has the Potential, but just never change something...
Paradox! You realize that... 👀
England were so bad I had to runaway from the television..
Fans have been screaming for years to pick players in form for england and look whats happened we have an imbalanced squad with no left sided players. Grealish and Rashford should be there regardless of form because they are the best 2 players we have in that position. Also chilwell should be there.
To be clear - they’re shite and playing like they don’t want to be there
Disgrace
For a moment there i thought they were going to bring up the Ivory Coast sacking their manager at AFCON and end up winning at as a solution for England. Since all talksports other videos bring it up
We were booing SOUTHGATE not the team, media’s still covering for him it’s pathetic
If you need to go for it...trent rb. Walker had so much of tbe ball driving against opposition defence...i was begging for trent to be there