Leeds fans called him the Yorkshire Pirlo after the Italian player, West Ham fans called him the Yorkshire Pudding. Is he a loss to the England team? no!
It's the Aston Villification of England. For some reason, Aston Villa hired Steve Gerrard to manage Aston Villa and he was dreadful, so bad the team flirted with relegation. After maybe a year, they fired Gerrard, brought in a world class coach in Emery. Emery turned the same players into a Champions League team. Gareth is our Gerrard, he gets the worst out of a damn good set of players.
The guy fell into the job, completely undeserved. He has a ridiculous squad that my granny could qualify for any tournament. He speaks well to the media ticking all the “modern manager” boxes in all non-football issues. But Christ in terms of football he is tactically inept and completely out of his depth at this level. Imagine what a proper manager would do with this squad?!
Gerrard won the league with rangers who had not won a title in 10 years and he went undefeated also There was some logic in that appointment Not the best comparison there pal because Southgate got a team relegated
Same thing with Eddie Howe, in fact, he turned a team that was relegation bound into a champions league team, and done it breaking multiple records, and then somehow finished seventh last season when the team/squad was falling apart around him. Yes Emery is tyr flavour of the month right now, but Howe is equally impressive, if not more considering the poor squad he inherited at Newcastle, at least villa had a half decent team when Emery took over.
We have rubbish players!! If Foden,kane and especially Bellingham are considered world class then England are doomed!! Bellingham has ruined the whole team! Look at him going around slapping players in the face, thinking he's the man and clearly tge other players don't want to play with him! Who would
Then Rice needs dropped. You can't play Rice as a DM he isn't good enough on the ball. Jorginho plays DM for Arsenal.The team should be built around Foden but he's just stuck him on the left for some reason.
Bellingham needs a Modric style playmaker for him to work in a number 10 thats why i think southgate plays trent in midfield should have brought WP and Grelish to captain the team @@phiIipt
@@leeturton9254 wouldn’t surprise me if he did. Someone’s (one the media ex players) mentioned something along the lines of most Euro sides won’t want to face us (words to that effect).. absolutely deluded pre tournament waffle.
Look at teams that are doing well - Spain and Germany and both of them are fearless…. Spain is not afraid to put a 16 year old in a match and this guy does not want to give a chance to Mainoo… Give me a break
Commenting on talksport video was a mistake… Everyone here is a United hater…. One of the reasons England does not win anything- divided fanbase who does not back own players
Gotta blame the players too. They weren't even moving for each other. They were lethargic, like they'd been on the piss the night before. They couldn't string more than 2 passes together.
Declan Rice`s face as he walked through the tunnel for the second half said it all for me.He was shaking his head and muttering away,the only thing that might have caused that is the half time team talk,it tells me Jamie O`s theory that the dressing room is not happy could be true,if so we are in BIG trouble.
if the england players were as spectacular as everyone says every tournament, you would expect england to have accidentally won a major tournament in the last 55 years.
Amen. That's the harsh truth people want to avoid. The players are not anywhere near as good as made out to be. Foden, Rice, Pickford etc are very very average players and it's not just them. Take out a Bellingham FROM Madrid and he is a headless chicken without Vini, Rodrygo, Camavinga etc
@@southernafricanboy4148 Foden - Premier league player of the season Bellingham - La liga player of the season Kane - Golden boot winner of Bundasliga Palmer - 2nd golden boot & assist of Premier league Could go on but you look stupid enough already.
Yeah I mean a lot of these media presenters, pundits and journalists were raving about the squad selection, and they know what Southgate is like, so why the bloody favourites tag!?
The English media is a nest of vipers. - They deliberately overhype everything in English sports so they can go on the attack after the inevitable/predictable failure.
Watch the looks on the players faces first time in ages I seen them looking like they had enough Foden looked really pissed off so did Trent and Pickford ..Somethings definetly not right I think leaving out Grealish might have been a huge error because everyone loved him and he was good for team morale and Southgate takes Shaw who's injured and probably won''t even play
i have noticed in england all football pundits seem to be former football players. they seem to be sympathizing a lot with the players and the coaches which clouds their judgement. in germany a lot of the pundits never played football professionally. they commentated it during the broadcasts or are just football nerds.
@@kailashpatel1706it means unbiased opinions. Like there’s no favorites. They say it like it is. Here it’s all ex players from the big teams. There are favorites so no one talks ill of them
I can't say I agree with us changing the punditry. You might as well go down the pub. I don't mind some bias,as long as analysis is on point. I'm a utd fan ,grew up watching football focus and motd,Hansen and Robertson hated utd but there analysis was generally always fair and valid other than you don't win anything with kids. It's pants management ,simples. The players know it so don't believe in the cause. Tbh it's more societal issue,are they really that proud to wear the three lions or is it just good for there bank and social media accounts. The difference is heart and desire. All other nations would run through brick walls for their country. Not ours though!
Maybes, but even taking that into consideration, the players are still underperforming and that's almost entirely down to the team selection and the system.
English players do not have the sustained composure to play a dominant possession game against quality opposition. It’s not just a matter of retreating after taking the lead, English players just do not have the mentality to keep the ball like the Spanish do. The difference is night and day when you watch the two sides play.
@@johntaylor2890 bellingham la liga player of the year, kane number 1 goal scorer in europe, foden one of the best players in the world this year, stones and walker still have a place in guardiola's team, declan rice one of the best holding midfielders this year etc. Not just england rate them, germany and spain scream how good kane and bellingham have been. "Just above average" Your hatred for england is showing lol. Judging by ur name u must be scottish or irish which just says it all
Kane keeps dropping to deep & if it’s not instructed by Southgate, he needs to tell him, the next time you drop deep I’m dragging you off. Trent can’t ping a ball if you’re 10 yards in front of him.
This is brilliant because you lot think England are a better team than everyone down south think Spain Germany and more likely France and Portugal would all beat you and others who would struggle against
What this group of players are missing is heart and passion. Teams like Denmark, Albania etc play their heart out, give everything because they see it as a privilege. Our lads don't care enough.
I agree with the guy below Premier League is full of European, and South American footballers making the English players better than they are, Serbia ranked 32, Iceland ranked 70, and England 4!!!!
Well at least you learned something new today didnt you, Just because you agree with someone dosnt make them correct, and you should actually think about what you are saying before you say it 😂
Switch to a 4-2-4 formation. Put Gordon on the left wing, put Palmer on the right wing (Yes I know he plays as a CAM), have Rice and Bellingham in the middle and put Watkins in with Kane up front. Watkins has a different profile and will compliment Kane up front. I love Trippier but he's not a LB and he's absolutely shattered. Southgate brought Shaw for a reason and he needs to get him minutes before the knockout round. At least put Shaw on for a half, either first or second.
the only good lb england have is playing rw, the rest of them are average & shouldn't even be in the squad. trent needs to be on the right, foden at 10, then you either drop bellingham back to 8 & bring palmer or eze on or you bring on another dm next to rice
@blairrobert3438 I can't speak for Palmer but Gordon would do a fine job supporting the left side. Have Tripps/Shaw patrol a little further up like a LWB would. On the right side Walker can easily do the same. We've already seen him run further up the pitch this tourney and Pepe has used him more than a few times as an inverted fullback. He could definitely support from the right. The only thing in question is Palmer and his ability to track back and win 50/50 balls. It won't be worse than what we've already seen.
Two strikers works for me. But I'd put Bellingham in the centre and Palmer as the no 10. Which is where he has dominated games last season. (Especially against Man City). Shaw would push up on the left as he did in the last Euros so well. Good call.
He had a couple of good moments against Iceland. But one player, no matter how good they are, won't solve any problems in all departments of the team. Though I am a big Palmer fan and expect to see him used in the next game when we win 4-0.
Put a chance on a plate for Harry Kane. Something no player has done in 2 games so far at this tournament. the goals we have scored have come from mistakes or deflections. Great goal by Bellingham but ultimately Saka cross was deflected. Last night mistake by defender to let Walker rob him and then two reflections on the poor cross / pass from Walker to fall at Kanes feet for a tap in. We haven’t made a single clear cut chance from 2 games against Serbia and Denmark with an abundance of attacking players to pick from. Grealish and Maddison must be in hysterics thinking they were left out because we already had enough creativity. Madness. Take the shackles off and let the boys play. At this point can’t even understand why the lads are following the game plan when it’s set up for us to fail. It’s been the same pattern for 3 tournaments now, win a game, draw against the so called better team of the group, get out the group, hope for a good draw, come unstuck once we face any team of quality
Trouble is we're so heavily imbalanced in midfield. Aside from Mainoo or Wharton, we don't really have anyone to play a defensive midfield role. Rice, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Bowen, Eze and Gallagher are all attacking midfielders. If Southgate sticks a ball winning midfielder in front of the defence then he's got to sacrifice one of Trent or Rice. Can't see him dropping Bellingham or Foden (or even Kane).
@@True_Hereticstats are for twats..use your brain Watkins will offer more he's quicker and fitter and can score goals harry kane plays like a 45 year old chain smoker
@@Chriztefur Kanes not had a stinker. Its the lack of service and shitty tactics. Just like yday when foden had a chance to slip him in. We need a proper CAM
Everyone is talking how bad the formation was, arguing about team selection, the question that should be asked is how can these players fail to pass a ball within the first 3 minutes, even though no opposition player was near them. If you cannot pass a ball then it doesn’t matter what formation is used
huh? it actually improved things. The players that came on actually moved. Kane was moving, but moving towards his own goal, Watkins came on and was moving towards the opponents goal. The team that started looked like they were severely exhausted from the first minute - they were stood still all game.
I can see him playing gomes next to guehi then playing stones in midfield next to rice as we can't press properly, so we gotta be more compact and play similar to previous euros,
We have lots of leaders playing on a different page, you can just throw talented players together and expect results (Chelsea), kane still a top finisher, Trent still top passer, foden still top dribbler... But they need an identity and tactics
"Palmer". If you are Italian I can understand your mistake. After all, we English don't get Roma, Milano, Napoli et al right. Watkins scored 24 league goals, Kane, 44 goals in 45 German games. But 20 is good too. And he IS a special player. He will be used in the next game, I am certain. And he will do well.
@@jamesmilligan2797 southgate plays foden as a defensive winger which suits saka as he's actually england's best lb playing as a defensive rw when trent needs to be on the right to give them natural width, that's the problem, england are too narrow, there's too many players out of position trying to do the same thing & there's no balance
That is what we need more number 10s on the pitch so they can all drift into the middle & give us absolutely no width whatsoever. Kane, Foden, Palmer & Bellingham all like to occupy the same space, we need players in the positions they play in, get Shaw in, Gordon on the left, Mainoo to partner Rice & play Foden or Bellingham as a 10.
The thing with southgates triple subs is that he does this a lot. It's like for like changes for energy but the tactics are wrong. Nothing changed after those subs.
The English players don’t want to risk getting injured and get dropped from their clubs next season. Too much money involved in transfers and salaries. They score a goal which is just enough and then go into defensive mode. They are not going to run with the ball and risk getting tackled just so England can win the Cup. They have a whole season to play for their clubs.
I have to say alot of people can shut up because the amount of people I heard that was happy with the lineups and have been screaming for the likes of TAA to play in midfield was crazy now it's not working it's all Southgate fault you all just want every player on the pitch TAA doesn't get in the starting 11 he's the back up RB same as palmer he's the back up 10 he doesn't get in starting 11 play the same back 4 bellingham rice cm foden 10 and our normal front 3 but Southgate for once has listened to the fans and look what's happened
Well said. Everyone loved the idea of Tent in midfield. Now it was always a terrible idea. All these excuses are just a way for English people to get out of confronting the truth: Our players can't handle pressure when playing for England and we are the Spurs of intl football no matter who the manager is.
@BirdLives7 absolute facts I have no idea why we so arrogant we haven't won anything since the 60s 😂 we have no credentials to suggest we are gonna win every single time a tournament comes around
Bro only idiots were calling for TAA in midfield as the answer... stones and rice should be the holding midfielders in the system he plays... dude has won a treble and double in that position and gets crammed in at centre half
Uncooked Rice so stiff he can't turn on the ball dude shocking. Bellingham just running like he a Duracell battery he getting in other player way then keep fall looking for fouls
Didn't you notice that the Danes failed to control the ball on that fake pitch as well? Be interesting to see Germany against Switzerland on it in a few days. "Ach mein gut! Die Mannschaft ist nein uber Englanders!!!!!"
The English players don’t want to risk getting injured and get dropped from their clubs next season. Too much money involved in transfers and salaries. They score a goal which is just enough and then go into defensive mode. They are not going to run with the ball and risk getting tackled just so England can win the Cup. They have a whole season to play for their clubs.
@@RebelCity_ The English players don’t want to risk getting injured and get dropped from their clubs next season. Too much money involved in transfers and salaries. They score a goal which is just enough and then go into defensive mode. They are not going to run with the ball and risk getting tackled just so England can win the Cup. They have a whole season to play for their clubs.
Kane actually said they were told at half to go deeper so it was down to GS. Eze is not a winger TAA not a midfielder Trippier not a left back so long in the job and still no set way of playing or plan b. I’m wondering if we should do an Ivory Coast.
The problem with Trent last night was he is one of the best passers in the league but if he has no one to pass to it’s pointless having him on the pitch
One of England’s issues is Kane drops in deep , Rice is in the middle Bellingham is in the middle Trent is in the middle and Fodden’s in the middle. The only player who runs in behind is Saka . They’re so predictable and it seems like you have a better chance of scoring after letting England go in front
We fans told the media that Southgate is a joke a long long time ago! Then the man utd fans got dissed by the media because they didn't want him as manager. The media were defending Southgate before this euros constantly, even though with those easy brackets in previous tournaments, England should have won at least one of those tournaments. Now the media is all Southgate this Southgate that. It's too late!
3-2-4-1 formation is the only way to fit all the "desired" players to be on the pitch. Run Bellingham and Foden up the middle together in a box midfield with rice and either mainoo or Gallagher in behind them. Saka and Gordon on the wings and kane (with strict instructions to stay out of the way of the midfield and be a target) in front.
English football is 30 years old. When the prem started,I said,why don't we play with intensity in international football like we do in the prem but we insisted playing the international way. Now everyone is playing the prem way and we r still playing the international way 🫣😡
Mainoo is not as good as he is hyped out to be, he is good on the ball but he ain’t a defensive midfielder, probably an 8. He gets ran through in midfield.
Southgate deserves more time, trust the process, he’s the most successful manager we’ve had in years, he knows what he’s doing, you can’t win them all, he’s going to right the ship and take home the trophy 100%.
I think Southgate was right to keep the team the same. That's the team I'd have picked and we were all expecting them to be much better, not worse. I think the Denmark game has cleared two things up though. 1) If Trent can't influence the game in midfield against Denmark and Serbia I wouldn't trust him against the better sides. 2) Foden is wasted on the left, if Shaw comes back that might change but until then he needs moving into the middle. My criticism of Southgate is the same criticism I've had for years. Too passive. Go one up and sit back. Wait 70 minutes to try to change the game. Players like Kane and Trent who were completely anonymous should be given 5-10 minutes after half time to show an improvement, if they don't they should be hooked. Southgate seems pathologically incapable of doing this. Ultimately though, the blame has to be shared with the players. You can't blame the manager for Kane not pressing or Rice and Trent repeatedly giving the ball away under no pressure or Foden refusing to run down the line. These players are capable of playing so much better and for all the, largely justified criticism Southgate is getting, the players can't hide behind him when he's picked sides that should've beaten Serbia and Denmark comfortably.
The issue with England is the midfield doesn’t compliment the attack and vise versa. Trent-long passer, Rice-Runner, Jud-Runner. No one wants to keep the ball or knows how to in Englands midfield. They want to get it, run with it or make quick long passes. And the Attack has no runners. The only fast player is Saka and he hardly makes runs in behind. If you’re gonna play with this midfield, the Attack should be Gor-Wat-Bowen.
Kobi Mainoo would solve a lot of the problems, but without runners out wide and a forward who plays on the shoulder, there is no space for technicians to do their thing. It's not the players fault that the manager left the runners at home
Gareth Southgate came in and changed the environment both socially and pychologically in 2018, rode the wave of optimism for a couple of years. He is now being found out at this level, out of his depth as a coach specifically regarding the technical and tactical corners of coaching. Look at the top 4 coaches in the prem, Pep, Arteta, Klopp and Emery, all seriously demanding coaches. The environment pendulum has swung to far to a holiday camp look. A pro phase coach at best.
Yes the players cant surely be told to sit back as soon as 1 nil up. Is it just fatigue and lack of match fitness for many players? They start both games well so they can play well together but then it subsides. Is that a formation, tactical issue or tiredness?
Every player from every team is fatigued too ya know after a long season it's no excuse its the tactics that are wrong remember these players are under instructions..
You could bring in a bloke from another planet, give him an hour with this group of players, and they would have a better chance of putting a decent performance in
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Can understand why Ben White wasn't interested in playing with the bunch of jokers
Me too
Benny white white
Severe youssss right......
Blanco knows!
Ben White knew he would not get in the team as he doesn’t have good dinner conversation lol
Did I miss the day Kalvin Phillips became prime iniesta
I think we all did
We all did Sir
Had one good game at the start of last euros, after that was bang average.
@@tomellis-fu3sstbf he had a great tournament, not one good game.
Leeds fans called him the Yorkshire Pirlo after the Italian player, West Ham fans called him the Yorkshire Pudding. Is he a loss to the England team? no!
It's the Aston Villification of England. For some reason, Aston Villa hired Steve Gerrard to manage Aston Villa and he was dreadful, so bad the team flirted with relegation. After maybe a year, they fired Gerrard, brought in a world class coach in Emery. Emery turned the same players into a Champions League team. Gareth is our Gerrard, he gets the worst out of a damn good set of players.
I thought he was your Lampard
The guy fell into the job, completely undeserved. He has a ridiculous squad that my granny could qualify for any tournament. He speaks well to the media ticking all the “modern manager” boxes in all non-football issues. But Christ in terms of football he is tactically inept and completely out of his depth at this level. Imagine what a proper manager would do with this squad?!
Gerrard won the league with rangers who had not won a title in 10 years and he went undefeated also
There was some logic in that appointment
Not the best comparison there pal because Southgate got a team relegated
Same thing with Eddie Howe, in fact, he turned a team that was relegation bound into a champions league team, and done it breaking multiple records, and then somehow finished seventh last season when the team/squad was falling apart around him. Yes Emery is tyr flavour of the month right now, but Howe is equally impressive, if not more considering the poor squad he inherited at Newcastle, at least villa had a half decent team when Emery took over.
We have rubbish players!! If Foden,kane and especially Bellingham are considered world class then England are doomed!! Bellingham has ruined the whole team! Look at him going around slapping players in the face, thinking he's the man and clearly tge other players don't want to play with him! Who would
That's Homer Simpson who walked backwards into the hedge
Doh!
And it was a different sentiment to "am I invisible?!?",
I would say nice try OHara, but that again would be the wrong sentiment
As a Maltese guy I’m glad we gave you some confidence
Gordon and Palmer sat on the bench then we bring Gallagher on again Southgate doesn't even know his best team 😂
defo needed Gordon down the left for some balance and Palmer to create
Why Ben white left England squad
Sitting and watching
@@johnkeohane4239Ben White doesn’t want to play.
@@johnkeohane4239 he’s not good enough anyway
@@petercharles2347 White and Saka are dominant. Walkers legs need rest before he gets injured
Jude was an 8 in Germany, and will be an 8 at Madrid again next year. It’s so obvious just to play him there.
The problem is they dont got a playmaker.
@@okocha7914Arda guler
Then Rice needs dropped. You can't play Rice as a DM he isn't good enough on the ball. Jorginho plays DM for Arsenal.The team should be built around Foden but he's just stuck him on the left for some reason.
Foden play everywhere but the left and that's the problem.
Bellingham needs a Modric style playmaker for him to work in a number 10 thats why i think southgate plays trent in midfield should have brought WP and Grelish to captain the team @@phiIipt
The biggest worry is the total lack of energy! Players laying down on the pitch at the end of the game
Yep they looked like it was the quarters and we had just played extra time and pens, weak as piss.
they looked like they had already done a 5 mile run before the game. No movement, no interest in the game.
That was unbelievable for a team of world class athletes
Then they come on TV after the game and talk as if everything's fine.
I'm not English but I cannot understand why England have Southgate in charge. That's a very talented squad and you lot have got Mr Bean in charge.
Cause we're a bunch of stiff jobsworths and Southgate epitomises that perfectly and it reflects in our play
He’s a PR princess and the media lap him up. That’s why.
Do not insult Mr Bean he's talented
Your too funny you know that 😂😂
Spanish Germans French haven't got a hope apparently against these superstars 😂
The 66'ers are ferked.
Who said that?.... seriously who came out and actually said that??
@@leeturton9254Rio Ferdinand.
@@Darkknight21789 b.s
@@leeturton9254 wouldn’t surprise me if he did. Someone’s (one the media ex players) mentioned something along the lines of most Euro sides won’t want to face us (words to that effect).. absolutely deluded pre tournament waffle.
Nah we miss Kalvin Phillips 😂🤣
😂
In 2020 Phillips and rice was banging went to city and got destroyed like
hahahahahaha that was the damnest thing he could have said he got mainno and palma and he is still blind
😂
We play like kittens not lions
Starting 3 RB says it all
Loves a right back, does Gareth.
3 Right back 3 number 10 lol I count kane as a 10 because he keep dropping in that position so Kane, Foden and Bellingham playing as a 10
Hahaha so true
You could also say 4 right wingers
Foden(again)
Saka
Palmer
Bowen
maybe leaving grealish and maddison behind has upset the apple cart
Look at teams that are doing well - Spain and Germany and both of them are fearless…. Spain is not afraid to put a 16 year old in a match and this guy does not want to give a chance to Mainoo… Give me a break
Mainoo is a garbage
From a Liverpool fan, Mainoo should have started both games. That midfield is a mess
no he shouldnt. hes worse at defending than trent and looks totally lost out of possession
Commenting on talksport video was a mistake… Everyone here is a United hater…. One of the reasons England does not win anything- divided fanbase who does not back own players
Yes, fgs get Palmer on
Gotta blame the players too. They weren't even moving for each other. They were lethargic, like they'd been on the piss the night before. They couldn't string more than 2 passes together.
Declan Rice`s face as he walked through the tunnel for the second half said it all for me.He was shaking his head and muttering away,the only thing that might have caused that is the half time team talk,it tells me Jamie O`s theory that the dressing room is not happy could be true,if so we are in BIG trouble.
Doesn't look like the players support Southgate by the way they're playing. Someone should replace him right now.
if the england players were as spectacular as everyone says every tournament, you would expect england to have accidentally won a major tournament in the last 55 years.
Amen. That's the harsh truth people want to avoid. The players are not anywhere near as good as made out to be. Foden, Rice, Pickford etc are very very average players and it's not just them. Take out a Bellingham FROM Madrid and he is a headless chicken without Vini, Rodrygo, Camavinga etc
@@southernafricanboy4148
Foden - Premier league player of the season
Bellingham - La liga player of the season
Kane - Golden boot winner of Bundasliga
Palmer - 2nd golden boot & assist of Premier league
Could go on but you look stupid enough already.
And it’s all because the majority of English pundits and fans seem to think quality football only exists in the premier league
That Admiral England shirt Cundy is wearing is mint.
The English media turn so quickly. It’s great.
I'm guessing that you are British, but not Irish or Welsh. Hehe!
Get the popcorn out its hilarious
@@True_Heretic
Scots are Scottish. End of! What does British even mean?
Yeah I mean a lot of these media presenters, pundits and journalists were raving about the squad selection, and they know what Southgate is like, so why the bloody favourites tag!?
The English media is a nest of vipers. - They deliberately overhype everything in English sports so they can go on the attack after the inevitable/predictable failure.
These 2 are more irrational and ridiculous than Goldbridge.
it’s effin hilarious. This is why I love major comps.
The england meltdown has started!
Facts don’t care about your feelings mate.
@@OliTaylor talking about feelings, did i hurt yours. 🥲
@@garyboom1021 not by someone who uses ‘effin’. You’re not so harmful mate
@@OliTaylor Dry yer eyes bud!
@@garyboom1021 how effin dare you.
Watch the looks on the players faces first time in ages I seen them looking like they had enough
Foden looked really pissed off so did Trent and Pickford ..Somethings definetly not right
I think leaving out Grealish might have been a huge error because everyone loved him and he was good for team morale and Southgate
takes Shaw who's injured and probably won''t even play
Well said. Needed Grealish.
Grealish was an outlet on the wing, if you give him the ball you know he won’t lose it without a fight
Sometimes similar to the despondent looks on England faces during Graham Taylor's reign. And that didn't end well.
"Don't raise your voice at me" 🤣
i have noticed in england all football pundits seem to be former football players. they seem to be sympathizing a lot with the players and the coaches which clouds their judgement. in germany a lot of the pundits never played football professionally. they commentated it during the broadcasts or are just football nerds.
Does that mean higher quality analysis..?
@@kailashpatel1706it means unbiased opinions. Like there’s no favorites. They say it like it is.
Here it’s all ex players from the big teams. There are favorites so no one talks ill of them
It doesn't CLOUD their judgement. It INFORMS their judgement. People who have been there and tried to do it before.
I can't say I agree with us changing the punditry. You might as well go down the pub. I don't mind some bias,as long as analysis is on point. I'm a utd fan ,grew up watching football focus and motd,Hansen and Robertson hated utd but there analysis was generally always fair and valid other than you don't win anything with kids.
It's pants management ,simples. The players know it so don't believe in the cause. Tbh it's more societal issue,are they really that proud to wear the three lions or is it just good for there bank and social media accounts.
The difference is heart and desire. All other nations would run through brick walls for their country. Not ours though!
Inclined to agree perhaps a bit too many X pros in punditry... need some others to question them.
The Premier league has too many foreign players which makes the English players look better than what they are.
Someone who knows! 👏🏾
they are literally playing against those foreign players, most not even in the premier league....
Fats @@spung5647
Maybes, but even taking that into consideration, the players are still underperforming and that's almost entirely down to the team selection and the system.
the best player in la liga last season was english... Sshhhh
English players do not have the sustained composure to play a dominant possession game against quality opposition. It’s not just a matter of retreating after taking the lead, English players just do not have the mentality to keep the ball like the Spanish do. The difference is night and day when you watch the two sides play.
They not good enough to do that, use have been brainwashed into thinking English players are world class when they just above average
As an English fan I don’t expect us to pass the ball like a Spain or Italy. I do expect us to pass and control the ball better than a pub team.
@@johntaylor2890 bellingham la liga player of the year, kane number 1 goal scorer in europe, foden one of the best players in the world this year, stones and walker still have a place in guardiola's team, declan rice one of the best holding midfielders this year etc. Not just england rate them, germany and spain scream how good kane and bellingham have been. "Just above average" Your hatred for england is showing lol. Judging by ur name u must be scottish or irish which just says it all
What national teams can pass the ball at the level of Spain? Basically the best possession team in the game.
Passengers in their club teams shielded by the better players and better managers
Kane keeps dropping to deep & if it’s not instructed by Southgate, he needs to tell him, the next time you drop deep I’m dragging you off. Trent can’t ping a ball if you’re 10 yards in front of him.
Kanes bin doing that for 4-5yrs now deeper and deeper..
Trent shouldnt be in the position to ping a ball, hes not a midfielder
He is a defender thats too lazy to defend
"experimenting" with TAA in midfield during a tournament was an unbelievable statement to come out with
Did Bellingham play last night? Didn't see him
He was the least effective attacker on the pitch and Southgate left him on the pitch. Should have been subbed off for Palmer.
I said it b4 this tournament, you need experience players in a tournament like this. Dropping some experience players affected this team a lot.
Jason's right. It's the players.
We think we have the best players in the world, we don't. Plain and simple.
They're good, but not the best
Surely they’re better than Denmark
This is brilliant because you lot think England are a better team than everyone down south think Spain Germany and more likely France and Portugal would all beat you and others who would struggle against
Absolutely agree... England are sh*te at football, & we'll never win f**k all!!!!
We don't think that at all. We could be better than them. But we certainly aren't right now. We are miles away. May just top ten
Hehehehe! Cheeky fecker!
Please write in English with some punctuation please. Don't have a clue what you just said. A full stop or comma where needed please.
@@StevenO4342 Totally agree, Steven. Its a bit rich people slagging off the English team with bad English.
What this group of players are missing is heart and passion. Teams like Denmark, Albania etc play their heart out, give everything because they see it as a privilege. Our lads don't care enough.
Money, the root of all evil.
England are just not that good! That’s just honest truth, chemistry just isn’t there
Coaching clearly isn't good enough either
Na mate they the spurs of international football will never win anything unfortunately
By my reckoning, they've been the most consistent national team over the last 35-40 years . . . consistently awful, that is.
Individually the players are good but as a team they're just not playing for the manager.
@@no1arab502 Jesus, would much prefer to see them play like Spurs, least it’s attacking football 😂
I agree with the guy below Premier League is full of European, and South American footballers making the English players better than they are, Serbia ranked 32, Iceland ranked 70, and England 4!!!!
thats nonsense, absolute nonsense.
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The rankings aren't based on what players people have 🤦🤦🤦
It's based on your national team's results, no matter how stupid the weightings are.
Well at least you learned something new today didnt you,
Just because you agree with someone dosnt make them correct, and you should actually think about what you are saying before you say it 😂
Spain played next and you were like WOW... What a team. England have no players like Rodri,Ruiz and Pedri
Pedri absolutely bossed that midfield. Williams and Lamine Yamal terrorised on the wings
You have Foden. He's the only English player with "Brazilian flair". Isolating him on the left wing is a crime.
i dont know what they have been taught on the training field but its not how any of the players are used to or in the positions they are used to
They take a bloody good knee tho
yep our woke credentials are fully intact
Maybe the players wouldn't be nervous if there weren't people saying "We have to win this tournament with the players we have"
Switch to a 4-2-4 formation. Put Gordon on the left wing, put Palmer on the right wing (Yes I know he plays as a CAM), have Rice and Bellingham in the middle and put Watkins in with Kane up front. Watkins has a different profile and will compliment Kane up front. I love Trippier but he's not a LB and he's absolutely shattered. Southgate brought Shaw for a reason and he needs to get him minutes before the knockout round. At least put Shaw on for a half, either first or second.
lolz. Rice and Bellingham with zero protection from the wings would be a disaster against better teams. We'd never have the ball.
the only good lb england have is playing rw, the rest of them are average & shouldn't even be in the squad. trent needs to be on the right, foden at 10, then you either drop bellingham back to 8 & bring palmer or eze on or you bring on another dm next to rice
@blairrobert3438 I can't speak for Palmer but Gordon would do a fine job supporting the left side. Have Tripps/Shaw patrol a little further up like a LWB would. On the right side Walker can easily do the same. We've already seen him run further up the pitch this tourney and Pepe has used him more than a few times as an inverted fullback. He could definitely support from the right. The only thing in question is Palmer and his ability to track back and win 50/50 balls. It won't be worse than what we've already seen.
Two strikers works for me. But I'd put Bellingham in the centre and Palmer as the no 10. Which is where he has dominated games last season. (Especially against Man City). Shaw would push up on the left as he did in the last Euros so well. Good call.
I’ve watched every single game so far, England has by far been the worst team in this competition
Well that's not true. Hungary, Scotland?
@@andyc7666second game they were both better than England was today
@@romeoscousin731 What Hungary were?
Sorry to piss in your porridge. But England will win their next game 4-0. You heard it here first.
@@True_Heretic Watch them lose, then the danes win they will finish 3rd and be knocked out by germany lol
Put Palmer on and we’ll show you what a player taking the bull by the horns looks like.
He had a couple of good moments against Iceland. But one player, no matter how good they are, won't solve any problems in all departments of the team. Though I am a big Palmer fan and expect to see him used in the next game when we win 4-0.
Put a chance on a plate for Harry Kane. Something no player has done in 2 games so far at this tournament. the goals we have scored have come from mistakes or deflections. Great goal by Bellingham but ultimately Saka cross was deflected. Last night mistake by defender to let Walker rob him and then two reflections on the poor cross / pass from Walker to fall at Kanes feet for a tap in.
We haven’t made a single clear cut chance from 2 games against Serbia and Denmark with an abundance of attacking players to pick from. Grealish and Maddison must be in hysterics thinking they were left out because we already had enough creativity.
Madness. Take the shackles off and let the boys play. At this point can’t even understand why the lads are following the game plan when it’s set up for us to fail. It’s been the same pattern for 3 tournaments now, win a game, draw against the so called better team of the group, get out the group, hope for a good draw, come unstuck once we face any team of quality
Only if they give him a pen 😂
Trouble is we're so heavily imbalanced in midfield. Aside from Mainoo or Wharton, we don't really have anyone to play a defensive midfield role. Rice, Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Bowen, Eze and Gallagher are all attacking midfielders. If Southgate sticks a ball winning midfielder in front of the defence then he's got to sacrifice one of Trent or Rice. Can't see him dropping Bellingham or Foden (or even Kane).
Talksport never look at things in context. Even Simon who errs on the side of context has thrown that out the window recently
Bench Kane, put Watkins in 😢
You'd replace a guy who scored 44 goals last season with a guy who scored 24? Maths not your strong suit?
@@True_Hereticstats are for twats..use your brain Watkins will offer more he's quicker and fitter and can score goals harry kane plays like a 45 year old chain smoker
@@Chriztefur Kanes not had a stinker. Its the lack of service and shitty tactics. Just like yday when foden had a chance to slip him in. We need a proper CAM
@@Chriztefur Nonsense. Portugal won't drop Ronaldo even though he missed everything in the last game.
Everyone is talking how bad the formation was, arguing about team selection, the question that should be asked is how can these players fail to pass a ball within the first 3 minutes, even though no opposition player was near them. If you cannot pass a ball then it doesn’t matter what formation is used
Thank you. Too much crying about Southgate and not enough discussion about our players just plainly being cowards.
Changing the front 3 was a real braindead move.
huh? it actually improved things. The players that came on actually moved. Kane was moving, but moving towards his own goal, Watkins came on and was moving towards the opponents goal. The team that started looked like they were severely exhausted from the first minute - they were stood still all game.
It’s just a panic roll of the dice when you are completely out of ideas.
Unless Saka was injured he has to stay on .. if he's tired bring on Bloody Palmer ffs
As a Scot,im loving this!!!🤣😂🇷🇸🇩🇰🏴
We'll send you a postcard when you're back home 👍
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5-1😂😂😂😂
Wow
Thanks and there’s me rooting for Scotland the other night all fool me !!!
I can see him playing gomes next to guehi then playing stones in midfield next to rice as we can't press properly, so we gotta be more compact and play similar to previous euros,
England look lost without Hendo , What a player!!!
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People will never understand his impact and knowhow
That's gotta be a sick joke surely😢😮
We have lots of leaders playing on a different page, you can just throw talented players together and expect results (Chelsea), kane still a top finisher, Trent still top passer, foden still top dribbler... But they need an identity and tactics
They miss Henderson. He was still the captain when Kane had the armband. All the Henderson haters were such fools. go cry now
Agree 💯
Don't make me laugh although he was a leader
Bro I don't know who is more dumb, you or Southgate?
Exactly, why even bring Wharton if you have no intention of playing him. At least Henderson would be a leader in that dressing room.
Jay we didn’t play a 4-2-3-1 w Phillips it was a 5 at the back w a double pivot. Essentially 7 defenders
For God sake man! Calm the f*** down! Here's a question, if Southgate isn't asking them to sit back, then why isn't he yelling at them to push up???
Totally agree lads .Nice to see your honesty .
It’s beyond me how Parma is not starting or coming on! The man has scored over 20 goals this season
Fods scored 20+ and Citys player of the season,, & hes been awful!!🤬🤬
@@jamesmilligan2797 yep because he's playing out of position
"Palmer". If you are Italian I can understand your mistake. After all, we English don't get Roma, Milano, Napoli et al right. Watkins scored 24 league goals, Kane, 44 goals in 45 German games. But 20 is good too. And he IS a special player. He will be used in the next game, I am certain. And he will do well.
@@jamesmilligan2797 southgate plays foden as a defensive winger which suits saka as he's actually england's best lb playing as a defensive rw when trent needs to be on the right to give them natural width, that's the problem, england are too narrow, there's too many players out of position trying to do the same thing & there's no balance
@@True_Heretic he might of been at the pub getting a parmigana lol
I think the Chelsea team would have played better than the English team yesterday. It's a crime that Southgate didn't put Palmer on...
Drop Trent. Put Bellingham back alongside Rice and put Palmer in.
Not a bad shout , Trent definitely isn’t working in there.
@jsmith9079 Defo ain't working mate. Also start Watkins over Kane, f it.
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@@tinman293 Problem with Watkins is he isnt clinical in front of goal but is good running and stretching the back lines of the opposition
That is what we need more number 10s on the pitch so they can all drift into the middle & give us absolutely no width whatsoever. Kane, Foden, Palmer & Bellingham all like to occupy the same space, we need players in the positions they play in, get Shaw in, Gordon on the left, Mainoo to partner Rice & play Foden or Bellingham as a 10.
Im withCundy on the players being responsible for sitting back, gareth not telling them to do that
Bellingham is the most over rated english player of all time. And there's been a few
All english players Are overrated more or less
Why is he at real madrid then the biggest serial winners in football history you clown
Compared to France Spain and Germany our lot look like league 2 players
Y is not having leaders the first thing people always say… You lot have leaders wat is missing is a manager with some actual sense
that manager is a leader
very important
The thing with southgates triple subs is that he does this a lot. It's like for like changes for energy but the tactics are wrong. Nothing changed after those subs.
The English players don’t want to risk getting injured and get dropped from their clubs next season. Too much money involved in transfers and salaries.
They score a goal which is just enough and then go into defensive mode.
They are not going to run with the ball and risk getting tackled just so England can win the Cup. They have a whole season to play for their clubs.
A dumb,. clueless and cynical response on your part. You clearly have no clue about the game. And probably life as a whole.
He said the pressure of playing for England is getting to them 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have to say alot of people can shut up because the amount of people I heard that was happy with the lineups and have been screaming for the likes of TAA to play in midfield was crazy now it's not working it's all Southgate fault you all just want every player on the pitch TAA doesn't get in the starting 11 he's the back up RB same as palmer he's the back up 10 he doesn't get in starting 11 play the same back 4 bellingham rice cm foden 10 and our normal front 3 but Southgate for once has listened to the fans and look what's happened
Well said. Everyone loved the idea of Tent in midfield. Now it was always a terrible idea.
All these excuses are just a way for English people to get out of confronting the truth: Our players can't handle pressure when playing for England and we are the Spurs of intl football no matter who the manager is.
@BirdLives7 absolute facts I have no idea why we so arrogant we haven't won anything since the 60s 😂 we have no credentials to suggest we are gonna win every single time a tournament comes around
Bro only idiots were calling for TAA in midfield as the answer... stones and rice should be the holding midfielders in the system he plays... dude has won a treble and double in that position and gets crammed in at centre half
Finally people telling it how it is!!!!
Rice is shocking. Sideways and backwards. Sky sports hype is all England are. 😂
Uncooked Rice so stiff he can't turn on the ball dude shocking. Bellingham just running like he a Duracell battery he getting in other player way then keep fall looking for fouls
Southgate bringing on conor gallagher rminds me of when sven would keep bringing on owen hargreaves 😂
Typical England, overhyped but average at best
Didn't you notice that the Danes failed to control the ball on that fake pitch as well? Be interesting to see Germany against Switzerland on it in a few days. "Ach mein gut! Die Mannschaft ist nein uber Englanders!!!!!"
The thing is Waistcoat has had all the players doing trust falls and skipping in circles instead off drilling them into a cohesive formation.
Southgate is a joke. I mean you have the best squad and depth by a mile and that performance was pathetic…
England don’t have the best squad or depth.
France, Spain and Portugal have better depth.
The English players don’t want to risk getting injured and get dropped from their clubs next season. Too much money involved in transfers and salaries.
They score a goal which is just enough and then go into defensive mode.
They are not going to run with the ball and risk getting tackled just so England can win the Cup. They have a whole season to play for their clubs.
@@RebelCity_ The English players don’t want to risk getting injured and get dropped from their clubs next season. Too much money involved in transfers and salaries.
They score a goal which is just enough and then go into defensive mode.
They are not going to run with the ball and risk getting tackled just so England can win the Cup. They have a whole season to play for their clubs.
Kane actually said they were told at half to go deeper so it was down to GS. Eze is not a winger TAA not a midfielder Trippier not a left back so long in the job and still no set way of playing or plan b. I’m wondering if we should do an Ivory Coast.
Maybe leaving Henderson at home was not the right idea. A good leader and knows the position to play very well
Just look at Georgia as an example of how to get the best out of your players. Played with heart bravery and passion
The problem with Trent last night was he is one of the best passers in the league but if he has no one to pass to it’s pointless having him on the pitch
One of England’s issues is Kane drops in deep , Rice is in the middle Bellingham is in the middle Trent is in the middle and Fodden’s in the middle. The only player who runs in behind is Saka . They’re so predictable and it seems like you have a better chance of scoring after letting England go in front
It's so obvious that we need a midfielder who can dictate tempo, not a holding midfielder, but with Southgate it's always safety, safety, safety.
Second caller was spot on, don't panic yet.
I think thats delusion, I can’t see an improvement at the moment
We fans told the media that Southgate is a joke a long long time ago! Then the man utd fans got dissed by the media because they didn't want him as manager. The media were defending Southgate before this euros constantly, even though with those easy brackets in previous tournaments, England should have won at least one of those tournaments. Now the media is all Southgate this Southgate that. It's too late!
I love Cundy‘s horse Impression at the end. 😂😂
Can we have a moment of appreciation for Ben white seeing what the media haven’t for a long time.
3-2-4-1 formation is the only way to fit all the "desired" players to be on the pitch. Run Bellingham and Foden up the middle together in a box midfield with rice and either mainoo or Gallagher in behind them. Saka and Gordon on the wings and kane (with strict instructions to stay out of the way of the midfield and be a target) in front.
English football is 30 years old. When the prem started,I said,why don't we play with intensity in international football like we do in the prem but we insisted playing the international way. Now everyone is playing the prem way and we r still playing the international way 🫣😡
When Southgate said we miss Phillips and Henderson, that was it for me, hasn't a bloody clue
This squad is a reflection of our manager. Our entire squad is twice the player Southgate ever was.
What does Southgate expect playing three right backs ffs!
Not sure why Southgate chickened out starting Mainoo because of the Iceland game where pretty much every player phoned it in.
Mainoo is not as good as he is hyped out to be, he is good on the ball but he ain’t a defensive midfielder, probably an 8. He gets ran through in midfield.
Southgate deserves more time, trust the process, he’s the most successful manager we’ve had in years, he knows what he’s doing, you can’t win them all, he’s going to right the ship and take home the trophy 100%.
Rumors have it's in 2092 or at this time around...
Seriously, come on he doesn't know what he is doing, that's the point.
Good one 😂
YOU GOT TO BE JOKING.
He looked so happy when he axed the likes of sterling, rashford, grelish, Henderson, and trust young players without experience
I think Southgate was right to keep the team the same. That's the team I'd have picked and we were all expecting them to be much better, not worse.
I think the Denmark game has cleared two things up though. 1) If Trent can't influence the game in midfield against Denmark and Serbia I wouldn't trust him against the better sides. 2) Foden is wasted on the left, if Shaw comes back that might change but until then he needs moving into the middle.
My criticism of Southgate is the same criticism I've had for years. Too passive. Go one up and sit back. Wait 70 minutes to try to change the game. Players like Kane and Trent who were completely anonymous should be given 5-10 minutes after half time to show an improvement, if they don't they should be hooked. Southgate seems pathologically incapable of doing this.
Ultimately though, the blame has to be shared with the players. You can't blame the manager for Kane not pressing or Rice and Trent repeatedly giving the ball away under no pressure or Foden refusing to run down the line. These players are capable of playing so much better and for all the, largely justified criticism Southgate is getting, the players can't hide behind him when he's picked sides that should've beaten Serbia and Denmark comfortably.
The issue with England is the midfield doesn’t compliment the attack and vise versa. Trent-long passer, Rice-Runner, Jud-Runner. No one wants to keep the ball or knows how to in Englands midfield. They want to get it, run with it or make quick long passes. And the Attack has no runners. The only fast player is Saka and he hardly makes runs in behind. If you’re gonna play with this midfield, the Attack should be Gor-Wat-Bowen.
Kobi Mainoo would solve a lot of the problems, but without runners out wide and a forward who plays on the shoulder, there is no space for technicians to do their thing.
It's not the players fault that the manager left the runners at home
Gareth Southgate came in and changed the environment both socially and pychologically in 2018, rode the wave of optimism for a couple of years. He is now being found out at this level, out of his depth as a coach specifically regarding the technical and tactical corners of coaching. Look at the top 4 coaches in the prem, Pep, Arteta, Klopp and Emery, all seriously demanding coaches. The environment pendulum has swung to far to a holiday camp look. A pro phase coach at best.
Yes the players cant surely be told to sit back as soon as 1 nil up.
Is it just fatigue and lack of match fitness for many players? They start both games well so they can play well together but then it subsides. Is that a formation, tactical issue or tiredness?
Every player from every team is fatigued too ya know after a long season it's no excuse its the tactics that are wrong remember these players are under instructions..
England is lucky to have such lovely manager Southgate.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dont Raise your Voice Cundy and oHare Comedy Gold 😂😂😂
You could bring in a bloke from another planet, give him an hour with this group of players, and they would have a better chance of putting a decent performance in
Funny how these lads were giving out about West Ham fans a few months back
He’s basically saying without Kelvin Phillips I don’t trust this back four,just let that sink in and you know he’s not the right man.
spot on. Bellingham needs to play as 8 and foden as 10. Fact
When the blind lead the sighted, both lose their way.