Hogwarts Legacy PS5 Ray Tracing ON vs OFF Graphics Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Hogwarts Legacy PS5 Ray Tracing ON vs OFF Graphics Comparison
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Gameplay carured on PS5 in Ray Tracing Mode and Fidelity Mode.
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Harry Potter and Half Blood Prince Game OST.
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Reflections and noise are so low resolution that everything looks wet and moving, not really good-looking.
I was hoping RT would clean those screen-space ambient occlusion issues, but it doesn't.
Guess turning RT off and increasing other details will be a better visual upgrade.
RT does not make a huge difference in that game and in my opinion the floor often looks too reflective or the lights are not stable and start to flicker. Not worth the performance drop.
You're blind lol. Probably just trying to justify turning it off for yourself. Your loss. With raytracing it looks at least 3x better.
@@deyh5664 reflections squirm like a worm is 3x better to you? lol
De fato, nesse jogo não faz muita diferença, melhor sem ray tracing mesmo, tem jogos que realmente faz diferença, mas esse daqui, é mínimo.
I got tired of the mirrors showing what the camera showed (the back of my characters head) instead of an actual reflection in a mirror so I turned RT on and it fixed the broken mirror reflection. (Although a mirror where you see the back of your head would be useful in reality and could be explained away in game as **it's magic** I prefer seeing reflections work properly)
This game looks amazing without Raytracing.
lmao you ever go get an eye doctor dude? There's so many details missing without raytracing it's insane. you must also be one of those who can't afford a 120 hz TV to take advantage of taking off fps cap and playing at fidelity and raytracing to get HIGH fps. I'm getting 50+ with mine
Stupid question. Beginner here. So it that just playing on fidelity mode. Or you have to pick fidelity Ray tracing mode ?
@@darrenfergusonukmets3547 fidelity ray tracing
Ok hater
Lol are you blind? Raytracing looks at least 3x better.
As always top notch content!
Thanks for the video! This showcases Fidelity Mode with and without Ray Tracing that you are comparing right?
I wish Balanced was somehow able to include RT. I can tolerate 40 fps, but after going 120 I can't go back to 30.
if you've been to WB studio and seen the main hall bit where (candles are floating above tables) it is nowhere near as shiny as Raytracing mode shows. RXT off seems to be more accurate. It is like they're popping this eyecandy just because....
Hopefully now that the 7.0 version of PS5 supports 1440p VRR this game will roll out support for 1440p VRR Raytraced mode.
From the looks of it. The game is not using full raytraceing and only uses pathtraced reflections.
Thats my thoughts exactly.
Can you share also how one would recognize if it had full RT?
@@immersifiedclipsambient occlusion is a big giveaway
@@immersifiedclips there would be subtle shadows inbetween small stones, under furniture, around characters feet and clothes.
Fully raytracing is only used in pre rendered stuff no? Its hella expensive to shoot rays from the light sources and hope that they hit the camera
How come older games had better reflections than modern games and they didn't have ray tracing. Even the Sims has reflective mirrors better than this game
You do realize that all the gpu and cpu power has to be allocated to other things or maybe the developers didn’t use mirror models that make the mirrors reflective.
Think the older games had “fake” lighting that’s why.
I agree
Thx for the video man, for me rtx off looks way better. The game's shadows and reflections "baked" by the devs looks better and more in line with the art style of the game than the rather poor implementation than rtx has.
1/ it isn't "rtx", that's a brand. It is ray tracing, which is the technology.
2/ Nothing is "baked" in this game, it uses probe based shadows and reflections. The ps5 doesn't have RT shadows, it uses RTAO and enhanced SSR with a single ray per pixel RT pass.
@@ammanus356 ok dude sorry I didn't know the graphics police was reading me xD
Jokes aside, wich mode you find better in terms of vissuals?
@@JNNK234 I play PC, I have no real care for any console visual modes.
@@ammanus356 So why were you watching this video then?
@@JNNK234exactly
I think in some places reflections are a bit overdone with RT, but that's the only change, so if you don't like it just disable raytracing I guess...
You mean when the hall stone floor turned into a tsunami wrecked city? Lmao
so the technology is useless?
@@chitti1120 No, as I've said, is overdone.
@@chitti1120 atm yes, we're not there yet.
if you've been to WB studio and seen the main hall bit (where candles are floating above tables) it is nowhere near as shiny as Raytracing mode shows. RXT off seems to be more accurate. It is like they're popping this eyecandy just because... meh. Also look at the ugly immersion breaking flickering artifacts at 4:20, not noticed anything like it with RT off
I notice the reflections kind of popping in when entering rooms on PS5...so I turned it off. Also it doesn't feel all that great with it on.
Ue4 is being pushed hard with this game, the fill rate is outstanding. This is why we have ue5 future games will be better
the game hasn't been fully out until the update comes out when full release even though 3 days early
I think fidelity looks better. RT just makes things more colorful because of the lighting but the resolution and draw distance takes a hit. Faces look more low res.
My game does not allow me to turn on RT. I'm going in the main menu, switching to fidelity with raytracing the game reloads and then a massage pops up and says The games performance mode has been reset to a default selection.
O meu também, não sei o motivo disso :(
You can fix it by going to settings - Saved Data and Game/App settings - Game presets - and where it says Performance or Resolution mode set it to Game Default. I wouldn’t recommend the ray tracing mode for this game tho as it’s honestly not that impressive imo.
@@julioperes569 You can fix it by going to settings - Saved Data and Game/App settings - Game presets - and where it says Performance or Resolution mode set it to Game Default. I wouldn’t recommend the ray tracing mode for this game tho as it’s honestly not that impressive imo.
There are a few places that are kinda dazzling, but I don't know if it's worth the frame rate hit. RT rarely ever is.
It is on my 4090. Cyberpunk maxed out, 144fps at 4k
@@ammanus356 no one cares
Yea I’ll take real shadows over extreme reflections anyway although I wish they could implament a performance RTX mode like Spiderman did.
@@DivineKnight_115 "Real" shadows in a digital game? All these people saying how daft the reflections look have never seen properly cleaned stone. Its literally one of the most reflective surfaces there is.
Also "rtx" is a brand not a technology. Ray Tracing is the technology, and the reason not every game does a performance rt mode is simple - the ps5 is underpowered, especially with ray tracing. Look at the clearly 1/8th resolution reflections and understand this mode runs at 1080p natively. The gpu in the ps5 is essentially below a 2060 for ray tracing. Also on the CPU side, this game is pretty heavy and rt adds CPU costs as well.Would you rather have a castle that feels alive with lots of people, or the hugely pared back crowds of Spidermans performance rt mode?
This is why console gamers shouldnt discuss tech
@@ammanus356 look at you fuming
some titles are better with rt off, this is one of them
Weird how many of the games that have RTGI do RTX better and yet are still less demanding than this. Shiny floors and water isn't worth a slideshow.
Sometimes without RT it looks better, and only in few cases there is any difference..
Lol few cases?
20-30 fps vs a solid 60fps on performance.
Ray tracing doing here not much but CONTRAST is a problem in this game, I think is the same HDR ISSUE what in Calisto Protocol, game looks like washed out despite have great graphics...
I agree in this game it looks better off in my opinion.
It's not hdr issue thts how the devs wanted gane to look
@@wingedhussar1453 🤔 Anyway it lacks deep black, looks washed out, need hard screen calibration...
Maybe chromatic aberration?
Then you're not adjusting the display settings correctly, lower the hdr brightness till you have a balanced look, although the visual style of the game is indeed a hazy/foggy look, but hdr worked fine with me, especially the beginning where you learn lumos and everything is dark, my screen went all black with only the little traces of light being lit
how many fps does playstation 5 have with ray tracing? im on 4070 TI and strugle with ultra graphics and ultra ray tracing settings -.- i gues i have to down tune ray tracing a bit. pc seems bad optimized xD
Napisze tak. W końcu dobra implementacja RT. Odbicia są tam gdzie być powinny. Cienie i cała reszta świetnie się prezentuje.
Zaraz po Deliver Us the Moon mogę śmiało stwierdzić,że twórcy zrozumieli sens i działanie śledzenia promieni. Dzięki Cycu
Grasz z rt ale z włączonym ograniczeniem liczby klatek na sekundę?
@@zomal456 w grach single player nie mam z tym problemu.
I wish RT was easier to enable. I’d only use it for screenshots. But you have to reboot the game to apply it. Balanced with uncapped frame rate is the best option. I’m getting 55-60 majority of the time with some dips down to 42. But even performance mode takes 10+ fps hits when sprinting or flying.
I told anothrt idiot that I'm getting that with raytracing and the person tried arguing. I ignored lol 😂
Unstable FPS is the worst.
If its capped at 30 or 40, you will eventually get used to it. But you will never get used to frame drops when you are in the middle of a fight (wich is where it usually happens). Even if the drop is above the cappped 40, the fact that it drop is extremelly noticeble
@@Kimera92 Luxery problems lol.
@@deyh5664 It's not a luxury problem at all. It's called hitching and stuttering. That's why people complain.
Does ps5 support raytracing in Hogwarts at 60 fps ?
I did a blind test to people who are not into video games so much and 8 out of ten said the RT off looked better.
Sone what rtx off feel more natural than rtx enabled ,rtx on just adding more wax on the floor
*Ray tracing not RTX. Rtx is a brand.
@@ammanus356🤓
Fluidity over raytracing anytime for this game. Especially during combat. The game is already beautiful without RT.
Relection off pavers so mutch that it resembles glass reflecting? RTX is not worth the sacrifice of FPS IMO.
So only reflections. Lighting and shadows difference is zero. A shame, since such a fantasy game would profit more from RT global illumination and shadows and ambient occlusion. A bit better mopped floor and those mirrors in the game showing better reflections isn't really that of a great addition. Especially when taking that fps hit.
Is it just me or does the graphics when i play look better without ray tracing. It’s like the game is a lot more sharp ?
The fidelity mode has a higher resolution than the fidelity with RT. That is why the images look sharper.
@@xpointer483 okej. I should probably play with fidelity and sacrifice ray tracing. Because at this game resolution is actually more beautiful in my own opinion
@@agamer2680 Sadly yes. I actually like to play with what is realistically closer so I’am stuck with playing the RT. Sigh.
@@xpointer483 what do you recommend if you have 4K tv? Should I play with ray tracing and sacrifice resolution. Even though it is not as sharp ?
@@agamer2680 I wouldn't recommend that because the graphics will look awful with low resolution. I would suggest you to play in fidelity which actually renders 4k suited for 4k displays.
Not so much necessary
What is the framerate with RT on, it appears very low.
30fps
I hope they will fixed on day 1 patch
There's no reason at all for that floor at the castle to not reflect the way it does without some trickery and no RT... Hitman 3 does this for example, no RT.
Parralaxed cube i beleive, big on memory but yes i totally agree room could of been made!
I played my first game through retracing off still it’s good but when I turn on ray tracing wow what a difference you can notice stuff you haven’t seen before
RT a majority of the time is not even noticed or minor when compared to it when OFF. Personally I prefer the sharper graphic detail of Fediility- 30(+ uncapped) is smooth and fine for a game like this. Found balance has more poo-in and notice some detail softened.
does raytracing drop the frame rate from 60 to 30?
Yes it does. It also comes with Low Graphik settings. There are also the 60fps/Low graphics and the 30fps/high graphics without rt modes
I prefer the 60fps one tho
Sub-30fps
@@retterindernot2 Does the fidelity with RT has lower graphics than Fidelity?
@@xpointer483 yes. With RT graphic settings are on Low, without RT settings are on high.
But im playing in fidelity, where graphics are also on low, and they are still inpressive and beautiful
2000 bucks for RTX card and RT reflections are worse than old SSR...
It’s on a ps5
The RT doesn't work for me it turn the setting back to the performance mode
Set the PlayStation setting for game to apply game defaults setting, it’s in the settings menu
4:09 lol
Why does the stone floor look so wet in the great hall? Awful example of RT effects.
Tried it myself on PS5, performance mode is a no brainer for this game. the detail loss is minimal, stuff you don't notice unless you compare side by side but you go from 25 choppy fps to a quite stable 60. and you will need the extra performance if you play normal or above dificulty, dodge and protego have tight timings.
Rtx is the best marketing I've seen in my life, imagine fooling gamers into believing rtx is worth basically doubling gpu prices for this almost imperceptible difference in graphics that tank performance lmao.
@@alexworm1707 lolwut. You're incredibly misinformed. Developers doing a poor job of implementing a technology is not the fault of the GPUs. Other games do RTX very well.
@@Taima no game makes rtx look good in a improved graphics/tanked perf ratio.
@@Taima Its not the developers. The technology is needlessly bloated and cant even run on nost current rigs.
@@TaimaAgreed, Spiderman is optimized very well on PS5 at 60FPS with RT.
I hate how it makes surfaces shiny that shouldn't be shiny
This isn't because of ray tracing, but the devs using the wrong material on the asset.
Why does mine keep resetting to fidelity on reboot ?
i had the same, you must in ps5 settings go to save game information and set as default graphic , i had resolution , after you do that, you will able to set fidelity with RT on
Is RTX off by default on PS5?
Yes, there are three options: Fidelity, Fidelity with RTX and Performance. Default is Fidelity without the RTX enabled.
It doesn't have ray tracing illumination so I Wil have it off
They both look almost identical to me unless it’s my eyes. I am getting old lol. But RT off so just fidelity mode. Looks to pop more. Again might be my eyes but it looks brighter to me. The issue I’ve been having is that foggy mist look when outside castle in some parts. Colours not being vibrant enough and popping they look washed out. I’ve tried performance. Fidelity. F with Ray tracing. And changing my tv settings. I’m on the PS5 and playing on a 4K ultra HD phillips Ambilight TV. Not sure where I am going wrong
Im having the same issue however if you pay attention its not always like that. I think its their weather / season system.
Maybe when the season changes at the game as the story progresses this mist will be gone.
It always hit me when im at Hogsmeade.
20fps vs 60fps
30
Yes I and can’t stand it
why would a stone floorr be reflective?
Awful implementation, it turns rough stone into wet looking surfaces.
Wow there is so little difference
you really shouldve included spells. avada kadevra looks way better with rt on
RT ruined it for me. Everything is too glossy again.
Thanks.
RTX is totally pointless in the game!
If you lose more then 10fps for that, you must be crazy to enable it lmao
Sooo, no difference at all. Will stick to performance mode.
This is FIdelity RT vs Fidelity. Performance mode look wayyy bad
RTX without reflections
1:06
RT is useless in every game... No floor in the universe shines like that
In this game RT was clearly an afterthought. The RTAO is hard to see and RT reflections are so low resolution. However, RT is not useless in every game. RT actually looks fantastic in Control, Cyberpunk and other titles when implemented properly
Raytracing is just not worth it doesnt look good at all 40% fps loss for shiny stones and "realistic" shadows ? No thanks
i think having better fps is more important that the slight increase in graphics 😅 the game looks great either way
Aveces me gusta mas en off y aveces en on
The truth is better without ray tracing
How windows can reflect in the stone ... RT is not even realistic
The RT here seems rather shitty, but that's on how it's implemented, not on the technology itself.
Holly Crap, what a HUGE difference, its like totally a different game with RT On 😒
RT is useless in this game ! the floor is not a miror
Fidelity 120/60FPS should be a thing by now.
RT Reflections on many games it's a joke
Yeah on an underpowered piece of crap console. It's using BELOW the lowest RT settings on PC. What do you expect for a plastic box lol
@@ammanus356 Yeah on an underpowered piece of crap console. It's using BELOW the lowest RT settings on PC. What do you expect for a plastic box lol
@@ammanus356 lmao that underpowered “piece of crap” runs every game with great performance settings while cutting the costs by almost triple. Have fun upgrading GPU’s every 2 years for 2 grand for your slight raytracing advantage. 😅
@@tookool4skool98 Ps5 runs most games around medium as DF and NXGamer have shown, and has not got a single game with locked 60fps, and the 120hz games are usually 80-100.
Meanwhile an RTX 2060, the weakest rtx gpu, when using the same settings at the same resolutions (usually 1080p in performance mode using FSR2.0 and then reconstructing to a higher resolution STILL using dynamic rez) utilizing DLSS on quality always outperforms the ps5 and can be found for 180 quid
Meanwhile the rtx 2080ti - 4 years old now - offers around double the performance, 4x the RT performance, and true native 4k instead of using FSR and reconstruction
My 4090 is LITERALLY 12x faster than the ps5. Using the PS5s settings in Cyberpunk, i get 200fps at 1440p. At 4k maxed out i get 144fps.
In control using the rt reflections and transparencies and the low preset at 1440p - the ps5 settings and even then the ps5 has custom rt lower than on pc - i get 250fps.
Dont talk about things you havent tested yourself. I do not need to update every 2 years. You have never had to do that to beat consoles. When the 360 came out, the 8800gtx came out which DESTROYED it 4x over. Ps4 was beaten by the 750ti, and could be beaten even now by a 780. Ps5 will be beaten in 5 years by the 2080.
Thats just the way with underpowered plastic boxes you fanboys simp for
@@ammanus356 get a life child
ty
Is this a Playstation Exclusive?
No not in the slightest
Sadly not
@@MichaelM28 why sadly, why would you want to restrict who can enjoy a game from a third party developer?
@@playnicegames Ah i thought it was. Because all the footage was showing PS5 only. I will grab it for my Xbox.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP you’re not the issue, the other guy is part of a toxic issue that’s plaguing the video game industry.
Gimmicks
4090
You think that’s what’s in a PS5?😅
Looks better OFF.
Spoiler Alert: This video shows way too much of the castle and takes away from your own exploration.
I am happy without ray tracing in this game honestly.
looks so gorgeous with RT😍
It barely makes a difference 😑
@@ralllfie415 that’s ur opinion😑
Console RT is a joke, it's simply impossible for that kind of hardware do a proper RT.
Not always, and most of the time reflections add a nice touch to the overall. Look GTA 5 with ray tracing on after the last update, or Miles Morales and many other.
Not for every game but you know this
Spiderman Performance/RT is really good though.
No they are not joke. They are very much capable of rendering good RT. Its the developers who are not using the full capability of these consoles. May be once they move on to UE5 the true power of these consoles can be realised. I believe it is the game engine that is holding back the new consoles.
@@xpointer483 i don’t think so, consoles use an AMD system, equipped with an RDNA 2 custom GPU, those GPU are good in raster, but very weak on RT, there is no magical optimisation or graphic engine that can be used, they just need an hardware upgrade (ps5 pro maybe?)to be able to do a proper RT without lowering other graphical settings and Internal resolution to 1080p or stick with 30 fps.
Insomniac managed to do great RT in an entire city with glass skyscrapers everywhere and still have good FPS. So why can't these other devs do even basic, hardly noticeable, RT without capping at 30?