I switched from the 2018 Rogue to the 2022 Rogue. I felt a significant difference between the two in distance, mis-hit forgiveness, and dispersion. I've since upgraded to the 2022 Rogue fairway wood and the 4-8 Rogue hybrids. This was a huge difference in my bag and has taken strokes off my handicap. The change to the Paradym didn't do much for me. Picking up last year's clubs at one-year old price instead of the new ones with their "new" premium price was a huge improvement and cost me considerably less that picking up the newest iteration. Thanks for the content. This was an interesting comparison. I'm 68 and a bogie golfer.
If you are switching drivers after one year or model and expecting big gains you have not been paying attention! A well fit driver will be great for at least 4 or 5 years. Then you may start to see marginal gains in forgiveness. Ball speed is maxed out so it is all about the proper head and shaft to give you the best and most consistent launch conditions for your swing. I just bought the Titleist TSR3, and I will not even entertain a new head for 4 years and then it would have to be something truly special to get it out of my bag! I got fit into the 9 degree head with the Ventus Black 5x shaft and it is by far the best looking, sounding and feeling driver I have ever hit! The Paradym, Aerojet, and Stealth 2 Plus were right there in performance but better look, sound, and feel along with slightly better consistancy sealed it for the TSR3. My previous driver was the Taylormade M3 and before that the Callaway Razr Fit. I hate Ping drivers but other than that I have no brand preference between the other big 4 brands. Ping drivers are just too ugly and terrible sounding to get past. I wasn't a fan of Titleist drivers either until the TSI3 but I held off and the TSR3 validated that decision for sure!
Agree, no need to change clubs every second or third year. A few yards of extra distance will not improve your game as much as working on getting a better swing. Short game by itself and getting up and down two times more per round will reduce your handicap more than new clubs.
Just got the rogue st max d for 285 from Callaway preowned. Came with the plastic still on it 😂 love the paradym, but I’m not spending an extra $320 for 1 yd difference from a highly skilled golfer
They are all great drivers indeed. Not enough in the numbers to warrant the extra $ here in Canada for a 1 yard difference, which with various ball strikers the results could swing both ways. But love look of Paradym, hate price (in Canada with taxes almost $900) so will have to wait a few years and use the Epic Max LS I have as it’s served me well. But all drivers tested will perform well in anyone’s bag 👍
I’m excited to try this. I swung the Paradym Triple Diamond the other day and I didn’t feel great about it. Swung the Sim2 Max and killed the ball. Gonna be interesting to try the Rogue LS
Great test. but after looking at the numbers there is not really as big of jump in performance from Rogue ST Max vs Paradym. One cost $600 and the other one you can pick up Demo Models for around $300. Hard to justify or even Consider the New Model with these numbers..
I disagree , I had the LS Rogue St and liked the look but performed terrible. Had zero confidence on the tee and knew it was going nowhere. I didn't say "well at least it looks good before I swing it" lol. Got the Max and it's a world's difference in performance.
I have all Paradym driver, woods and hybrids…..but honestly the Rouge is just as impressive and solid. Love both so much. Just got a great deal on the Paradyms, literally the only reason I went with them instead of the Rouge lol
Can't get over the look of the paradym with the plastic looking black part joining the carbon fiber top. Looks like SUVs with plastic around wheels and bumpers.
I noticed the difference switching from epic max to Paradym. I don't think I would've switched from rouge to Paradym tho. For a club golfer, picking up 2 yards on the drive is meaningless lol. But the accuracy off the tee from epic to Paradym was pretty big!
I’ve just upgrade my driver, 3 and 5 wood from the ST because of the way they look at address, not closed compared to the ST. Performance not much, feel is a bit better, sound a little higher pitched. I have found that I have gained with the 3 wood by about 10 meters (220m).
So, basically a 0.1% performance increase (if that) for a 20% price hike, let me think about that for a moment ??? Sounds a bit like an unfunny joke. Surely with the regulations and constraints imposed by the PGA (which I agree are necessary) year on year it’s going to be the same ridiculous marketing claims with not much more than cosmetic changes for an exorbitant price rise.
Yeah these drivers are pretty much maxed out in terms of usga rules and regulations. That’s why they spend more money on marketing than research and development because that’s all been done lol
Statistically, as demonstrated by the deviation numbers, these drivers are performing identically. Standard deviation overlaps in every case. So the attraction of the new compact driver with the new marketing name is the fact that it's the new thing. Some folks are attracted to that, but most pocketbooks in todays economy won't support that kind of "newest thing" buying. Lot of value in the Rogue ST line remains. Cheaper by a couple of hundred bucks too, it appears.
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What they are saying doesn’t add up to what I see on the video. There is no difference in distance, I believe the Rogue had a better dispersion, and the Rogue price is cheaper at this point. If I am wrong, someone please educate me. Going back to the dispersion, I know there are different variables to consider. If you draw you get more distance, so maybe that is why the distance is close or should I say almost equal. I heard them say you could change the weight on the back of the Paradym to get the draw, but you didn’t say anything about changing the shaft on the Rogue to help straighten out the draw on the Rogue. I don’t know if the Paradym is that much better to upgrade from the Rogue. The Rogue is a great club. Just saying…
Callaway brings out new clubs every year….does anyone really think there will be big improvements? 😂😂😂…. Just a great opportunity to buy same tech for less price.
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I switched from the 2018 Rogue to the 2022 Rogue. I felt a significant difference between the two in distance, mis-hit forgiveness, and dispersion. I've since upgraded to the 2022 Rogue fairway wood and the 4-8 Rogue hybrids. This was a huge difference in my bag and has taken strokes off my handicap. The change to the Paradym didn't do much for me. Picking up last year's clubs at one-year old price instead of the new ones with their "new" premium price was a huge improvement and cost me considerably less that picking up the newest iteration. Thanks for the content. This was an interesting comparison. I'm 68 and a bogie golfer.
If you are switching drivers after one year or model and expecting big gains you have not been paying attention! A well fit driver will be great for at least 4 or 5 years. Then you may start to see marginal gains in forgiveness. Ball speed is maxed out so it is all about the proper head and shaft to give you the best and most consistent launch conditions for your swing. I just bought the Titleist TSR3, and I will not even entertain a new head for 4 years and then it would have to be something truly special to get it out of my bag! I got fit into the 9 degree head with the Ventus Black 5x shaft and it is by far the best looking, sounding and feeling driver I have ever hit! The Paradym, Aerojet, and Stealth 2 Plus were right there in performance but better look, sound, and feel along with slightly better consistancy sealed it for the TSR3. My previous driver was the Taylormade M3 and before that the Callaway Razr Fit. I hate Ping drivers but other than that I have no brand preference between the other big 4 brands. Ping drivers are just too ugly and terrible sounding to get past. I wasn't a fan of Titleist drivers either until the TSI3 but I held off and the TSR3 validated that decision for sure!
Agree, no need to change clubs every second or third year. A few yards of extra distance will not improve your game as much as working on getting a better swing. Short game by itself and getting up and down two times more per round will reduce your handicap more than new clubs.
I agree except for the ping being ugly…😂😂😂
Just got the rogue st max d for 285 from Callaway preowned. Came with the plastic still on it 😂 love the paradym, but I’m not spending an extra $320 for 1 yd difference from a highly skilled golfer
Finally the comparison video ive been waiting for all year
Just switched through Epic to Rogue to Paradym & wow I love the driver, wood, hybrids (incredible) & irons
Great vid! Seconding the request for the same Rogue ST vs Paradym review, but for the fairways.
They are all great drivers indeed. Not enough in the numbers to warrant the extra $ here in Canada for a 1 yard difference, which with various ball strikers the results could swing both ways. But love look of Paradym, hate price (in Canada with taxes almost $900) so will have to wait a few years and use the Epic Max LS I have as it’s served me well. But all drivers tested will perform well in anyone’s bag 👍
I won’t be switching out of my rogue TD anytime soon. I prefer the matte crown over the gloss personally.
I love the matte black look on the rogue td ls
I’m excited to try this. I swung the Paradym Triple Diamond the other day and I didn’t feel great about it. Swung the Sim2 Max and killed the ball. Gonna be interesting to try the Rogue LS
Good feedback! Keep us posted...Rogue LS was a winner in 2022 in the low spin category
Be nice to see these reviews with average swing speed ( less than 100) mid handicap golfer
I’d really love to see a dynapwr review from you guys!
Great test. but after looking at the numbers there is not really as big of jump in performance from Rogue ST Max vs Paradym. One cost $600 and the other one you can pick up Demo Models for around $300. Hard to justify or even Consider the New Model with these numbers..
I disagree , I had the LS Rogue St and liked the look but performed terrible. Had zero confidence on the tee and knew it was going nowhere. I didn't say "well at least it looks good before I swing it" lol. Got the Max and it's a world's difference in performance.
I have all Paradym driver, woods and hybrids…..but honestly the Rouge is just as impressive and solid. Love both so much. Just got a great deal on the Paradyms, literally the only reason I
went with them instead of the Rouge lol
Fair enough! You're right, both are fantastic.
Funny to hear more comments on the look than on the real performance 😜
Great comparison video, please do a review on the tour edge C723 Driver Against other 2023 models, It's going to be a bomber !!!
Can't get over the look of the paradym with the plastic looking black part joining the carbon fiber top. Looks like SUVs with plastic around wheels and bumpers.
I noticed the difference switching from epic max to Paradym. I don't think I would've switched from rouge to Paradym tho. For a club golfer, picking up 2 yards on the drive is meaningless lol. But the accuracy off the tee from epic to Paradym was pretty big!
would've liked to see the Paradym X in here to compare to the Rogues ST Max
Would be interesting to switch the Paradym TD with heavier weight in the back, which would theoretically increase launch, spin and forgiveness.
I have my Paradym 💎💎💎 set up like that and it does make it very playable and slightly more forgiving, especially early on in the season.
@@austinl5548 Will it be less forgiving later in the season?
Love my Max LS. Cheat stick. I just put a decent swing and I'm near 300. Great swing and I'm over 300.
I’ve just upgrade my driver, 3 and 5 wood from the ST because of the way they look at address, not closed compared to the ST. Performance not much, feel is a bit better, sound a little higher pitched. I have found that I have gained with the 3 wood by about 10 meters (220m).
Do the fairway woods next!
Probably because there isn’t much of a performance difference, so nothing to talk about 😂
So, basically a 0.1% performance increase (if that) for a 20% price hike, let me think about that for a moment ??? Sounds a bit like an unfunny joke. Surely with the regulations and constraints imposed by the PGA (which I agree are necessary) year on year it’s going to be the same ridiculous marketing claims with not much more than cosmetic changes for an exorbitant price rise.
The latest driver is not for someone who has the last model.
Yeah these drivers are pretty much maxed out in terms of usga rules and regulations. That’s why they spend more money on marketing than research and development because that’s all been done lol
No one said replace drivers every year.
They are trying to grab us taylormade guys up, and they got me. I switched just fitted into the standard Paradym it’s tighter dispersion.
You can pickup a used Rogue ST in like new condition for under $400. I know what I’m choosing…
Good video!
Where is Thomas?
Can you guys do a test with epic max ls involved? Thinking the performance is going to be very similar to the newer callaway models
Statistically, as demonstrated by the deviation numbers, these drivers are performing identically. Standard deviation overlaps in every case.
So the attraction of the new compact driver with the new marketing name is the fact that it's the new thing. Some folks are attracted to that, but most pocketbooks in todays economy won't support that kind of "newest thing" buying.
Lot of value in the Rogue ST line remains. Cheaper by a couple of hundred bucks too, it appears.
Sad to see Thomas move on. Thought there was a lot of potential like Ian and Matty on TXG.
Test the mavrik lads against paradym
Did you try the way in the back with the triple diamond?
Yup
Yep. Yep. Yep. Definitely. Yep. Yep. Ya. Yep. Definitely. Yep. I like it
oops 😂
Right.
What is going on with Thomas, where has he been ?
Kind of tells us they’ve pushed the limits on drivers. Better off spending money on lessons
Took too long talking in beginning and to show the data , lost interest pls get to the point quicker
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What they are saying doesn’t add up to what I see on the video. There is no difference in distance, I believe the Rogue had a better dispersion, and the Rogue price is cheaper at this point. If I am wrong, someone please educate me. Going back to the dispersion, I know there are different variables to consider. If you draw you get more distance, so maybe that is why the distance is close or should I say almost equal. I heard them say you could change the weight on the back of the Paradym to get the draw, but you didn’t say anything about changing the shaft on the Rogue to help straighten out the draw on the Rogue. I don’t know if the Paradym is that much better to upgrade from the Rogue. The Rogue is a great club. Just saying…
So much for a “paradym” shift.
So the st max and paradym are good drivers 🤣🤣👌
Rogue ST looks way better
Callaway brings out new clubs every year….does anyone really think there will be big improvements? 😂😂😂…. Just a great opportunity to buy same tech for less price.
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Yup, yup,yup, yup, yup😂😂😂😂😂