It's kind of like how having a sun tan is considered a sign of luxury and wealth in certain Western cultures, implying that you can afford a summer vacation, whereas in other cultures like Asia, it's considered a sign of lower social status because it's the result of doing physical labor outdoors in the sun vs working a white-collar job in an air-conditioned room.
@@murphymacken hotter climate favors body fat sticking out more while colder climate favors bodyfat evenly distributed across body surface. colder is more difficult to survive due to not being able to get rid of unwanted extreme temperature like you can in heat by sweat , you need intelligence t conserve calories more in coping against calorie loss from shivering , difficulty means geens of parentla love tend to survive more so. this is why you have "pump her with my genes then then dump her" societies where relationships are less personal, tend to be less monogamous, and monogamy motivates care to satisfy and impress women to appeal to their attraction to strength, motivating men to develop shows of capability beyond basic living. these more advanced civilizations get to enjoy life more, modernist anti trad attempt to replace love with consumerism has failed and many learn this the hard way , like when they can no longer have kids or attract higher value people for relationships. these less monogamous societies are more like monkeys in every way. the attempt to demonize the more monogamous people and culture is especially modern as those who print money can control things without having to convince people to give them money. heres some other potential video content: first: genes that spread help spreading or dont stop spreading, thats is how were made to max spreda of ones genes, but of course this isnt the same as being happy. for example, raping as many women as possible feels intuitive for this reason, but such isnt as enjoyable as sex also being comfort of care and getting near orgsm without doing it to elongate arousal time instead of loosing arousal after a couple orgasms and having many weak orgasms. ok now thats pointed out: .............women attracted to power. "she can smell the used testosterone" . david buss supposed some of this way of having desire is specific to certain man and women matching each others immune system. women not tolerating any show of weakness in men nowdays shows how much women dont even try to think about what reality is beyond short term, because if they thought abou tit,theyd realize even high testosterone attractive men have pain , just because some hide it from women due to women not being attracted to them or distrusting them , doesnt mean they dont have the pain. women using men for free stuff is also confused with women wanting men to make mor emoney than them etc, its because women see more money making as power even though almost nobody uses money for seriously influencing anything that matters, its just consumer stuff. of course, no power is as attractive as bodily power, as even old bill gates isnt wanted over some some minimum wage construction worker, but the construction guy is high testosterone athletic and can fuck her good. this is why women love some criminals , sending love letters etc, which is attention normal guys just as bodily attractive dont get... these particular women decided those tattooed murderer criminals have bravery and strength to kill while mr nice guy is too weak to be willing to do that. i think this is a big part of why womens variability on what their attracted to is bigger than mans the other part of it is attraction to power ...............puberty years are when you can grow skeleton and dick size, steroids can make a second puberty but are risky as some bodies get harmed. do moving weights , getting sunlight , sleep , wakign up early, etc relatively natural stuff were made to do because geens that spread help spreading. regardless fof what you can get with women, itll help youre biological potential motivation to be excited about stuff, to get stuff doen easier and enjoy life more, while strengthening your health so when old age takes a percentage of your health away, youll have more to work with. *dick size: realistic heater vibrator edible lube shooter fake dick that can be worn over the actual dick. especially nodays when there arnt as many big dick big guy options . there are vibrator sort of things for guys too, turd flinging monkey used to make lot fo review videos. i think on his bitchute or rumble or odysee not youtube, or whatever it was . fake dick can be a pocket pusy and a pocket dick at the same time, its worn by the guy . the vibrator for her can also flow lube on the sides etc, and maybe also suck out lube to recycle it instead of it leaking out. the clench of man teeth could indicate getting near orgasm etc to try to harmonize both persons orgasm. cum can be collected to prevent pregnancy and some people wanna eat it . edible lube real dick size is good for deepthroat with a little light choking . legal contract agaisnt SexaullyTransmittedDiseases, unwanted pregnancy (so no birth control pill sex trash needed),buying babies and breast milk , genetic selection motivating relations loyalty. cucking isnt ideal because habitual disassociation of caring comfort from sexual arousal and touch comfort, with long term relationship person, could weaken enjoyability of relationship if she doesnt also have parental love for the guy and only want to be like a baby in a parent child relationship, who cannot understand parents feelings and have empathy. desensitization by overdose in attractiveness of other people beyond the relationships, etc.
This. Men do not like overweight women, and prefer women on the lower end of the normal range (unless she puts fat on in all the right places). Likewise, women have only paid attention to me when I'm lean. Whenever I was overweight I got no interest from women. Lost weight (and put back on some muscle) and women started paying attention to me again. Only difference is men can get away with having A LITTLE more fat than women IF they've got some muscle underneath. But women don't really like overweight partners either.
@@chrispedersen2526 The opposite is true- if anyone can have more weight and still get a good amount of attention, it's women. There is ONE beauty standard for men and it's extremely lean and muscled- been that way since the beginning of time, which is why ancient statues of Greek gods still fit the male beauty standard. On the other hand ideal body type for women has historically fluctuated and you can be an overweight or chubby or extremely thin or even obese woman and still open an OnlyFans and make tons of money 😂
A lot of what Men find attractive is influence by media. I think i heard that white western Beaty Is more so influenced from magazines then other groups
Can you a video on why women go after the men that are more dominant/indifferent/cocky towards her rather than the good guy and which combination of "dominant" vs "caring" traits are most desirable?
I tbink body shape and self perceived size strongly influences mate choice. Slim people more often pair with larger partners more than slim ones. Personally, I look shape over size and curvy women generally (but not always) have better curves.
What you said about African people in certain groups is very much true, but that work needs updating for males aged 16-25 now since their preferences are quite different. The women they may be technically obese but need to have a very good figure, where their midsection is essentially that of a normal or even lean woman and the "obesity" is stuffed into the chest, rear and legs, if that isn't the case they tend to prefer leaner women too. There variation of course, but the love for large is not as strong in younger African men.
Let’s make one thing clear. Not all of us South African Zulu men want heavy women 😂😂
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When I saw the studies he was talking about being from 1989, 2006 and 2013 I knew this cannot be what the population thinks in today's world. Specially because the reproductive age population is not the same. Internet and globalization for the last 30 years have for sure changed a lot of the standards for what women and men should look like.
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I wonder if the attraction to heavier women in times of scarcity is related to the access to resources for the men or if it's linked with the genes passing to the offspring? Or if both make an accurate guess? In this case we are more likely to be attracted to what will keep us alive and our offspring alive. Be it to survive famine in times of bad weather, or to have genes to not over eat (avoiding all complications of overweight) in times of abundance.
Men do not prefer overweight women. Men prefer women of normal weight, and prize the women at the lower end of the normal range the most. Now if a woman puts the fat on in all the right places, we like that too (maybe even more) but for most women being towards the lower end of the normal range will be the most attractive to men.
@@nickthompson1812 Wtf is that argument. A lot of thing doesn't make sense "biologically". That's necessarry part of evolution. Also, me like big titles and curvy girls, so fuck off with that incel logic.
Yup. I can accept that if starvation is a factor, things change. The evidence seems to show this. Outside of that scenario... Well, you don't need research for something half the population intrinsically knows. (fetishes aside)
@@nickthompson1812science is all about the unintuitive. Your thoughts on what makes sense biologically are less important than actually looking at biology.
@@murphymacken every ex gf I’ve had: “never been in love with someone like you” me: like me how? They: as short as you. Me: 💀. Never not been on a relationship since 14 except during COVID. I’m 34 now. (It ova over) Relationships never last longer than a year. Friends call me mini Chad bc I have short term success and bc I’m short but good looking (cope). I’m 160cm, in Costa Rica, still short here. It’s brutal Macken. I think women are just not risking their child coming out their baby maker as short as me. 😂🥲
@@murphymacken Same Macken, what non-physical attributes make people more or less attracted to one another? Something seems to be going on during conversation that makes people switch. I'd say this might apply more to women
"it's not a great measure for health." I disagree. It's a good enough measure for most. Morbid obesity and death and co mortality all correlate. Is it 100% accurate. No. But it's more than 80%. This sounds like pandering to women to me and the body positivity movement. Also I don't see how this "they have more calories works" when its not presented in the reverse. From a women's angle wouldn't they prefer fat men in the same area? Answer no. Women generally have a rigid definition of fitness and body type. If it was social status... Why wouldn't it work in reverse.
I mention that excess fat can signal ill health in this very clip. I said “it’s not great,” that doesn’t mean it’s not good. Like, look at me, do you think I’m “overweight” in any meaningful sense? As for “why not the reverse,” great question! Women’s fertility drops during famine, men’s does not, and so the stored calories matter more sexually.
@@murphymacken@murphymacken ok but it still sounds dismissal of bmi. It's a very valid metric. And yes. You are above bmi. And as you admit. By a marginal amount. Which can happen with strength training for men. Very rarely for women. I agree very skinny and anorexia would be not appealing to males as it indicates health issues. However extreme BMI also indicates health problems. Even blind men prefer and waste to hip ratio. How do you square the two studies on waist to hip ratio and this statement of heavier bmi? Does suddenly a waste to hip ratio not matter? I'd argue BMI is a good metric when combined with waist to hip ratio for most cultures.
They wouldn't prefer fat men because deep inside the natural instinct is to get a strong man and a protector. Being fat is not ideal for fighting, stamina or running. As for BMI it's not a good measure for health per se. More than 70% of normal BMI people have metabolic issues.
@@CherryFlower24 True, fat men would not have been able to protect their spouses and children from predators, enemies, etc. However, many European kings were overweight if you look at their portraits.
In certain cultures, bigger means wealthier.
When calories are scarce, the wealthy are fat. When calories are abundant, the wealthy are thin.
It's kind of like how having a sun tan is considered a sign of luxury and wealth in certain Western cultures, implying that you can afford a summer vacation, whereas in other cultures like Asia, it's considered a sign of lower social status because it's the result of doing physical labor outdoors in the sun vs working a white-collar job in an air-conditioned room.
@@murphymacken hotter climate favors body fat sticking out more while colder climate favors bodyfat evenly distributed across body surface. colder is more difficult to survive due to not being able to get rid of unwanted extreme temperature like you can in heat by sweat , you need intelligence t conserve calories more in coping against calorie loss from shivering , difficulty means geens of parentla love tend to survive more so. this is why you have "pump her with my genes then then dump her" societies where relationships are less personal, tend to be less monogamous, and monogamy motivates care to satisfy and impress women to appeal to their attraction to strength, motivating men to develop shows of capability beyond basic living. these more advanced civilizations get to enjoy life more, modernist anti trad attempt to replace love with consumerism has failed and many learn this the hard way , like when they can no longer have kids or attract higher value people for relationships. these less monogamous societies are more like monkeys in every way. the attempt to demonize the more monogamous people and culture is especially modern as those who print money can control things without having to convince people to give them money. heres some other potential video content: first: genes that spread help spreading or dont stop spreading, thats is how were made to max spreda of ones genes, but of course this isnt the same as being happy. for example, raping as many women as possible feels intuitive for this reason, but such isnt as enjoyable as sex also being comfort of care and getting near orgsm without doing it to elongate arousal time instead of loosing arousal after a couple orgasms and having many weak orgasms.
ok now thats pointed out: .............women attracted to power. "she can smell the used testosterone" . david buss supposed some of this way of having desire is specific to certain man and women matching each others immune system.
women not tolerating any show of weakness in men nowdays shows how much women dont even try to think about what reality is beyond short term, because if they thought abou tit,theyd realize even high testosterone attractive men have pain , just because some hide it from women due to women not being attracted to them or distrusting them , doesnt mean they dont have the pain. women using men for free stuff is also confused with women wanting men to make mor emoney than them etc, its because women see more money making as power even though almost nobody uses money for seriously influencing anything that matters, its just consumer stuff. of course, no power is as attractive as bodily power, as even old bill gates isnt wanted over some some minimum wage construction worker, but the construction guy is high testosterone athletic and can fuck her good. this is why women love some criminals , sending love letters etc, which is attention normal guys just as bodily attractive dont get... these particular women decided those tattooed murderer criminals have bravery and strength to kill while mr nice guy is too weak to be willing to do that.
i think this is a big part of why womens variability on what their attracted to is bigger than mans
the other part of it is attraction to power ...............puberty years are when you can grow skeleton and dick size, steroids can make a second puberty but are risky as some bodies get harmed. do moving weights , getting sunlight , sleep , wakign up early, etc relatively natural stuff were made to do because geens that spread help spreading. regardless fof what you can get with women, itll help youre biological potential motivation to be excited about stuff, to get stuff doen easier and enjoy life more, while strengthening your health so when old age takes a percentage of your health away, youll have more to work with.
*dick size: realistic heater vibrator edible lube shooter fake dick that can be worn over the actual dick. especially nodays when there arnt as many big dick big guy options
. there are vibrator sort of things for guys too, turd flinging monkey used to make lot fo review videos. i think on his bitchute or rumble or odysee not youtube, or whatever it was .
fake dick can be a pocket pusy and a pocket dick at the same time, its worn by the guy . the vibrator for her can also flow lube on the sides etc, and maybe also suck out lube to recycle it instead of it leaking out. the clench of man teeth could indicate getting near orgasm etc to try to harmonize both persons orgasm. cum can be collected to prevent pregnancy and some people wanna eat it . edible lube
real dick size is good for deepthroat with a little light choking .
legal contract agaisnt SexaullyTransmittedDiseases, unwanted pregnancy (so no birth control pill sex trash needed),buying babies and breast milk , genetic selection motivating relations loyalty.
cucking isnt ideal because habitual disassociation of caring comfort from sexual arousal and touch comfort, with long term relationship person, could weaken enjoyability of relationship if she doesnt also have parental love for the guy and only want to be like a baby in a parent child relationship, who cannot understand parents feelings and have empathy. desensitization by overdose in attractiveness of other people beyond the relationships, etc.
BROOO 😂 this is wild. It makes sense tho. You're gonna make waves with this one, Good luck dude! 💪
I love your videos and research!❤️ Thank you so much for your time and effort and keep up the excellent work.👌
I get by far the most attention from men when I'm underweight or low normal, but my skeleton is very slender. Build matters.
This. Men do not like overweight women, and prefer women on the lower end of the normal range (unless she puts fat on in all the right places). Likewise, women have only paid attention to me when I'm lean. Whenever I was overweight I got no interest from women. Lost weight (and put back on some muscle) and women started paying attention to me again. Only difference is men can get away with having A LITTLE more fat than women IF they've got some muscle underneath. But women don't really like overweight partners either.
I feel the opposite- by far I get the most attention from men when I have a bit more curves on me- not overweight but not thin
@@chrispedersen2526 The opposite is true- if anyone can have more weight and still get a good amount of attention, it's women. There is ONE beauty standard for men and it's extremely lean and muscled- been that way since the beginning of time, which is why ancient statues of Greek gods still fit the male beauty standard. On the other hand ideal body type for women has historically fluctuated and you can be an overweight or chubby or extremely thin or even obese woman and still open an OnlyFans and make tons of money 😂
A lot of what Men find attractive is influence by media. I think i heard that white western Beaty Is more so influenced from magazines then other groups
Can you a video on why women go after the men that are more dominant/indifferent/cocky towards her rather than the good guy and which combination of "dominant" vs "caring" traits are most desirable?
ok nice guy
I tbink body shape and self perceived size strongly influences mate choice. Slim people more often pair with larger partners more than slim ones. Personally, I look shape over size and curvy women generally (but not always) have better curves.
What you said about African people in certain groups is very much true, but that work needs updating for males aged 16-25 now since their preferences are quite different. The women they may be technically obese but need to have a very good figure, where their midsection is essentially that of a normal or even lean woman and the "obesity" is stuffed into the chest, rear and legs, if that isn't the case they tend to prefer leaner women too. There variation of course, but the love for large is not as strong in younger African men.
All I know is when I was overweight men didn't give me the time of day, lost the weight, holy💩!
I didnt know bro was tattooed like this. DOPE!
I take em out every summer
This is valuable information Sir, thank you, my feminine instincts love it! Have a healthy and happy life. Geraldine
Had a gf that lost a bunch of weight, to the point where I completely lost attraction for her. Could not even do the double back demon with her 😢
Let’s make one thing clear. Not all of us South African Zulu men want heavy women 😂😂
When I saw the studies he was talking about being from 1989, 2006 and 2013 I knew this cannot be what the population thinks in today's world. Specially because the reproductive age population is not the same.
Internet and globalization for the last 30 years have for sure changed a lot of the standards for what women and men should look like.
I wonder if the attraction to heavier women in times of scarcity is related to the access to resources for the men or if it's linked with the genes passing to the offspring? Or if both make an accurate guess?
In this case we are more likely to be attracted to what will keep us alive and our offspring alive. Be it to survive famine in times of bad weather, or to have genes to not over eat (avoiding all complications of overweight) in times of abundance.
How do we find out about r mate value? Macken is it our confidence as an internal track?
Men do not prefer overweight women. Men prefer women of normal weight, and prize the women at the lower end of the normal range the most. Now if a woman puts the fat on in all the right places, we like that too (maybe even more) but for most women being towards the lower end of the normal range will be the most attractive to men.
You can’t speak for all men, you’re projecting your own preferences there. I know many men who prefer women with more weight. Everyone is different.
@@truthonwheels8652 biologically, it doesn’t make sense. Being extremely overweight and unhealthy isn’t a good indicator of a good mother.
@@nickthompson1812 Wtf is that argument. A lot of thing doesn't make sense "biologically". That's necessarry part of evolution.
Also, me like big titles and curvy girls, so fuck off with that incel logic.
Yup.
I can accept that if starvation is a factor, things change. The evidence seems to show this.
Outside of that scenario... Well, you don't need research for something half the population intrinsically knows. (fetishes aside)
@@nickthompson1812science is all about the unintuitive. Your thoughts on what makes sense biologically are less important than actually looking at biology.
I can’t breed! Macken! Help! 😢😅
What problem are you running into specifically
@@murphymacken every ex gf I’ve had: “never been in love with someone like you” me: like me how? They: as short as you. Me: 💀.
Never not been on a relationship since 14 except during COVID. I’m 34 now. (It ova over)
Relationships never last longer than a year.
Friends call me mini Chad bc I have short term success and bc I’m short but good looking (cope). I’m 160cm, in Costa Rica, still short here. It’s brutal Macken.
I think women are just not risking their child coming out their baby maker as short as me. 😂🥲
@@murphymacken Same Macken, what non-physical attributes make people more or less attracted to one another? Something seems to be going on during conversation that makes people switch. I'd say this might apply more to women
"it's not a great measure for health." I disagree. It's a good enough measure for most. Morbid obesity and death and co mortality all correlate. Is it 100% accurate. No. But it's more than 80%.
This sounds like pandering to women to me and the body positivity movement.
Also I don't see how this "they have more calories works" when its not presented in the reverse.
From a women's angle wouldn't they prefer fat men in the same area? Answer no. Women generally have a rigid definition of fitness and body type.
If it was social status... Why wouldn't it work in reverse.
I mention that excess fat can signal ill health in this very clip. I said “it’s not great,” that doesn’t mean it’s not good. Like, look at me, do you think I’m “overweight” in any meaningful sense?
As for “why not the reverse,” great question! Women’s fertility drops during famine, men’s does not, and so the stored calories matter more sexually.
@@murphymacken@murphymacken ok but it still sounds dismissal of bmi. It's a very valid metric. And yes. You are above bmi. And as you admit. By a marginal amount. Which can happen with strength training for men. Very rarely for women.
I agree very skinny and anorexia would be not appealing to males as it indicates health issues. However extreme BMI also indicates health problems.
Even blind men prefer and waste to hip ratio.
How do you square the two studies on waist to hip ratio and this statement of heavier bmi? Does suddenly a waste to hip ratio not matter?
I'd argue BMI is a good metric when combined with waist to hip ratio for most cultures.
They wouldn't prefer fat men because deep inside the natural instinct is to get a strong man and a protector. Being fat is not ideal for fighting, stamina or running. As for BMI it's not a good measure for health per se. More than 70% of normal BMI people have metabolic issues.
@@CherryFlower24 True, fat men would not have been able to protect their spouses and children from predators, enemies, etc. However, many European kings were overweight if you look at their portraits.