QUESTIONS 0:14 "Why don't I find good guys attractive?" 3:28 "Is Macken a silly little guy irl?" 3:44 "Is aggression innate?" 4:24 "Thoughts on women dating younger men?" 6:04 "Why are feminine men attractive?" 7:50 "Do men care more about faces or my bodyweight?" 8:23 "Why do humans mate in private?"
I've been a fan of your channel for a while now, and I just wanted to share how much I appreciate your videos. Whenever you upload a new one, I can't wait to watch it, sometimes I save it for later until I finish work. Your content is so engaging and informative, and I truly believe more people need to see it because your videos are not only entertaining but also really important. So, please keep making more videos - your audience, including me, is rooting for you!
Always love the videos fren. As a random internet guy who often gets stuck in the vicious depression that is the manosphere doomsday echo chamber your channel is like an oasis. This 4chan citizen wished good fortune upon thee fren 🥳
Love seeing content from Macken pop up! I am insatiably curious about this subject and really don’t see myself returning to school again😂 thank you for sharing!
I'd like to add that hygiene is a big deal. A guy can be great and "check all boxes" but if he doesn't have good dental hygiene, bad breath, bad body odor, uncontrolled dandruff, clothes smell moldy, etc. All that is a deal breaker to a lot of women who take care of themselves and take pride in their body, which men always seem to want but fail to see that it is something that needs to be reciprocated
Id say that reverse age gaps also work because women past 30 start declining in "popularity", and start being kind of at the same level as 20 something year old men.
Man, some people specially women are really taught to ignore the most basic and important thing in romantic relationships which is PHYSICAL attraction.
Character, emotional maturity values beliefs disposition morals lifestyle worldview and goals are the most important discernment in choosing a partner. Alignment. Appearance is superficial. Romance chemistry and attraction does not create relationship success. Relationship skills are essential 8 Dates by John and Julie Gottman Getting The Love You Want by Harville Hendrix IMAGO Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Wired For Love by Dr Stan Tatkin Emotional Intimacy by Robert Masters Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman Are You The One For Me? by Barbara DeAngelis Safe People by Henry Cloud Interrogate Your Partners Their Past Is Your Future - Sam Vaknin podcast
@dewbiedewdew I actually am very confused that so many men seem to believe that red pill bullshit. Especially in the times we live in, it seems to play a lesser and lesser role. Because of disease, I couldn't even begin my degree. Currently, job less and still there are women who want a relationship with me. So can't hold true?
For the first question. Smell is very important. You can be a drop dead handsome man with all the boxes checked but if you smell dusty or stanky, I'm instantly turned off. Perfume/fragrance is an immediate no in my book given that it triggers migraines. I'm not the freshest smelling even when I shower so I do feel awful about it. But wanted to bring that up since to me smell over rides looks every time. Also I LOL 😂 at "Dorito Shaped"! Good material for me to poke fun at my partner but in all honesty, just reaffirms why I'm attracted to him
I've always said physical attractiveness gets someone in the door, but personality makes them stay. Of course, we want someone we're physically attracted to. Your food has to look appetizing before you eat it. Well we want to mate with someone who turns us on, but to add to that to have an amazing personality, values, similar interests...someone who feels familiar to us and we just click, that makes them even more attractive.
A lot of the discussion surrounding preferences in dating that you discuss are, and reasonably so, from a pretty heteronormative context. One thing I'm curious about though is if you've encountered anything on the topics of dating preferences outside of that norm, be it either LGBT dating preferences, or even straight people who have less conventional dating preferences (e.g. straight men explicitly into more masculine women or vice versa), and if there's any interesting observations within those areas.
I encourage you to not think that just because some things here can be explained scientifically that it's able to tell the whole story. You don't need to be a Dorito to attract a partner, and scientific study will never be able to fully account for the full spectrum of strangeness and eccentricity exhibited by the human race.
That was fun. I'd say "chemistry" is something you can't force or get over time. Which leads to the question, what is chemistry? I'm guessing it's a mix of attraction and interest in the way two people communicate or something. That might be an interesting subject. I have gone out with super nice guys repeatedly hoping for us to "click" but it never happened. I consider those men friends but something was definitely missing to be more than that.
One of the things about nice guys is they were probably raised in unhealthy environments. They learned as children that to survive they had to deny their own wants, desires and needs and work to fulfill others wants, desires and needs. Because of the hurt they experienced in childhood they have an aversion to subjecting anyone else to that hurt. That is why they are so reliable, but since they are psychologically incapable of being aggressive with their desires, and you as a women look to the man for that, there are no sparks. If you do not have the character to be understanding and supporting to him in his growing out of this, you can really f him up and grow frustrated in the process. If that's not you, leave the guy alone. It won't work. He will likely thrive with a woman who also grew up in an environment were she also had to deny her want's desires and needs. That way they can grow and help each other together. That's how my wife and I did it.
@musayibghani3986 I wouldn't say THEY were missing something- I don't think it's that simple. I will say that what they had in common was that they tended to be men that left me feeling like they would prefer that I was more dominant. If I didn't make advances, there would be none. To go out, it was always my choice of restaurants etc. That's great sometimes, but I like a healthy balance. So maybe it's a lack of confidence? Or it comes off as that? I would suggest that nice guys continue to be nice, that is what we want, but lead sometimes and bring that masculine energy to the table. Not the toxic kind, but the quiet confident kind. If you don't have that, I know it can be developed.
I've noticed that a lot of people refer to the men in kpop as being more feminine but I don't think they are. I think it's only seen that way I bit because they do have pressure on them to remain more slim but also good skincare and overall hygiene-appearance can come off feminine to some or gives an illusion. But if you look, they're still men lol. This doesn't go for all of course, but I'm just saying.
Hearing that women understand that being attracted to good guys would be better for them, but still not being able to find them attractive might be one of the most disheartening things I’ve heard.
That first question is really weird I fell hard for a girl called Jasmine and she told me I ticked all her boxes and how amazing I was and then the next day she told me that she wasn’t quite feeling it.
Feminine features on males are less intimidating, easier to perceive as non threatening they get away with more also applies to how they sound & carry themselves. Also lures Bi-s & Women in their masculine & under developed tweenies.
Regarding you answer to why do humans mate in private, you missed an answer that seems rather obvious. when humans are mating they are more vulnerable. Whilst engaging in the act you are focused on what’s happening in the moment, your guard is down and your perception of threat is naturally lowered. This his Humans would have naturally tended to find shelter and safety to mate as Away from other predatory males or onlookers of any kind
Understand the idea but I believe the reason this explanation isn’t favored is because other animals face this same threat, often to greater degrees, and yet they almost all mate publicly.
@@murphymacken I've been watching and listening to your videos for quite sometime. I'm gay and I just think the principles that you mention are also applicable to people with homosexual orientation regardless of the prevalent LGBT culture. Am I thinking right?
@@MaruTheGreatgood question but might be difficult to find a lot of hard data on this issue aside from a few broad polls….? I see quite a few young guys that obsess about race and think it makes a huge difference. I disagree
If you're black or a person of color then yes it matters a lot. FD signifier has a video on the topic, it was originally titled swirlconomics. If you're too lazy to watch, then the tldr is the difference in culture is too big in a country like the US where black culture is way of self defense for black people. They learn and grow by being together. @@brianmeen2158
Facial features or weight? That's a stupid question. When you're heavy, your face generally looks significantly worse. Noone looks great with a chubby bloated face, that's common sense. Now if the question is: great body and average face or average body and great face? The answer is the latter. Face is generally prefered, especially for longterm relationships/marriage. Plus body can be improved. There is gym for the body, there is no gym for the face.
It’s simple I think in most cases - those men just did not give these women the “tingles”.. it is very important that even if you check most or all of her boxes that you make her feel something.
For me, it looks like you downplay the importance of sociocultural factores in favor of evolutionary/genetic ones, this is probably an epistemological thing more than a "science=true" thing
It's so sad to see you had no choice but putting subtitles like that because humans' attention span has gotten shorter than that of gold fish. I like the content but that subtitle is annoying af fr
As an older woman I'd have to say, a young male specifically is the WORST. Worst person to be speaking in the subject. There is no way to improve, give up because you are wrong wrong wrong.
QUESTIONS
0:14 "Why don't I find good guys attractive?"
3:28 "Is Macken a silly little guy irl?"
3:44 "Is aggression innate?"
4:24 "Thoughts on women dating younger men?"
6:04 "Why are feminine men attractive?"
7:50 "Do men care more about faces or my bodyweight?"
8:23 "Why do humans mate in private?"
I've been a fan of your channel for a while now, and I just wanted to share how much I appreciate your videos. Whenever you upload a new one, I can't wait to watch it, sometimes I save it for later until I finish work. Your content is so engaging and informative, and I truly believe more people need to see it because your videos are not only entertaining but also really important. So, please keep making more videos - your audience, including me, is rooting for you!
Rare wholesome YT comment. So greatly appreciated-made my night.
Always love the videos fren. As a random internet guy who often gets stuck in the vicious depression that is the manosphere doomsday echo chamber your channel is like an oasis. This 4chan citizen wished good fortune upon thee fren 🥳
Bruh
Love seeing content from Macken pop up! I am insatiably curious about this subject and really don’t see myself returning to school again😂 thank you for sharing!
Alex Datepsych is another creator that covers this type of content.. Chris Williamson is another
Hi Macken! Loved your work on Stuart Little 1 & 2.
I'd like to add that hygiene is a big deal. A guy can be great and "check all boxes" but if he doesn't have good dental hygiene, bad breath, bad body odor, uncontrolled dandruff, clothes smell moldy, etc. All that is a deal breaker to a lot of women who take care of themselves and take pride in their body, which men always seem to want but fail to see that it is something that needs to be reciprocated
A lot of women online comment about men's teeth. I am surprised it's not brought up in more black pill, looks-maxing conversations.
I like this AMA. I think you should do more of this!
I feel like you are the type of person who is trustworthy ❤
Id say that reverse age gaps also work because women past 30 start declining in "popularity", and start being kind of at the same level as 20 something year old men.
Hey, its Jasmine that asked the first question.
I asked a follow up question on ur Reel
Can’t see it, ask here? Or in broadcast channel
This was great and would like to see more of these videos. Thank you for sharing so many interesting insights on this topic.
I've been watching all your videos & podcast interview. Really fascinating work. Thank you for sharing!
You are so welcome!
Man, some people specially women are really taught to ignore the most basic and important thing in romantic relationships which is PHYSICAL attraction.
Men are in love, women are in business. They want the life style you can provide.
Character, emotional maturity values beliefs disposition morals lifestyle worldview and goals are the most important discernment in choosing a partner. Alignment. Appearance is superficial. Romance chemistry and attraction does not create relationship success. Relationship skills are essential
8 Dates by John and Julie Gottman
Getting The Love You Want by Harville Hendrix IMAGO
Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel
Wired For Love by Dr Stan Tatkin
Emotional Intimacy by Robert Masters
Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman
Are You The One For Me? by Barbara DeAngelis
Safe People by Henry Cloud
Interrogate Your Partners Their Past Is Your Future - Sam Vaknin podcast
@@PentaRaus cope with that nonsense
@@PentaRaussay you never had a good relationship without saying it 🤡
@dewbiedewdew I actually am very confused that so many men seem to believe that red pill bullshit. Especially in the times we live in, it seems to play a lesser and lesser role. Because of disease, I couldn't even begin my degree. Currently, job less and still there are women who want a relationship with me.
So can't hold true?
Love your content Macken! I enjoy your interviews.
For the first question. Smell is very important. You can be a drop dead handsome man with all the boxes checked but if you smell dusty or stanky, I'm instantly turned off. Perfume/fragrance is an immediate no in my book given that it triggers migraines.
I'm not the freshest smelling even when I shower so I do feel awful about it. But wanted to bring that up since to me smell over rides looks every time.
Also I LOL 😂 at "Dorito Shaped"! Good material for me to poke fun at my partner but in all honesty, just reaffirms why I'm attracted to him
If he doesn't smell good to you, you are genetically incompatible
I would love to hear your thoughts on the bear vs man debate.
Finally, the sound of actual reason 😂
I've always said physical attractiveness gets someone in the door, but personality makes them stay.
Of course, we want someone we're physically attracted to. Your food has to look appetizing before you eat it. Well we want to mate with someone who turns us on, but to add to that to have an amazing personality, values, similar interests...someone who feels familiar to us and we just click, that makes them even more attractive.
A lot of the discussion surrounding preferences in dating that you discuss are, and reasonably so, from a pretty heteronormative context. One thing I'm curious about though is if you've encountered anything on the topics of dating preferences outside of that norm, be it either LGBT dating preferences, or even straight people who have less conventional dating preferences (e.g. straight men explicitly into more masculine women or vice versa), and if there's any interesting observations within those areas.
Way less people, so way less data and way less interest
I'm not sure whether to take it as good news or bad news that my lack of success with women has scientific, evidence based explanations.
I encourage you to not think that just because some things here can be explained scientifically that it's able to tell the whole story. You don't need to be a Dorito to attract a partner, and scientific study will never be able to fully account for the full spectrum of strangeness and eccentricity exhibited by the human race.
Good news because you at least have some idea what to work on. Also good because it largely demystifies attraction
YES PLZ AN AMA THANK YOU V MUCH SIR
Love your work bro, keep bringing the facts!
That was fun. I'd say "chemistry" is something you can't force or get over time. Which leads to the question, what is chemistry? I'm guessing it's a mix of attraction and interest in the way two people communicate or something. That might be an interesting subject. I have gone out with super nice guys repeatedly hoping for us to "click" but it never happened. I consider those men friends but something was definitely missing to be more than that.
What were they missing
It's definitely not just physical attraction. That's bs. Women need fantasies. If you don't create these as a man than there can't rise Lust in women
@@Alex-bl8uh So it's not just about being good looking, you need to also have a exciting personality. Damn man, this just gets tougher and tougher.
One of the things about nice guys is they were probably raised in unhealthy environments. They learned as children that to survive they had to deny their own wants, desires and needs and work to fulfill others wants, desires and needs. Because of the hurt they experienced in childhood they have an aversion to subjecting anyone else to that hurt. That is why they are so reliable, but since they are psychologically incapable of being aggressive with their desires, and you as a women look to the man for that, there are no sparks. If you do not have the character to be understanding and supporting to him in his growing out of this, you can really f him up and grow frustrated in the process. If that's not you, leave the guy alone. It won't work. He will likely thrive with a woman who also grew up in an environment were she also had to deny her want's desires and needs. That way they can grow and help each other together. That's how my wife and I did it.
@musayibghani3986 I wouldn't say THEY were missing something- I don't think it's that simple. I will say that what they had in common was that they tended to be men that left me feeling like they would prefer that I was more dominant. If I didn't make advances, there would be none. To go out, it was always my choice of restaurants etc. That's great sometimes, but I like a healthy balance. So maybe it's a lack of confidence? Or it comes off as that? I would suggest that nice guys continue to be nice, that is what we want, but lead sometimes and bring that masculine energy to the table. Not the toxic kind, but the quiet confident kind. If you don't have that, I know it can be developed.
I've noticed that a lot of people refer to the men in kpop as being more feminine but I don't think they are. I think it's only seen that way I bit because they do have pressure on them to remain more slim but also good skincare and overall hygiene-appearance can come off feminine to some or gives an illusion. But if you look, they're still men lol. This doesn't go for all of course, but I'm just saying.
Hearing that women understand that being attracted to good guys would be better for them, but still not being able to find them attractive might be one of the most disheartening things I’ve heard.
Here's a question: Is this channel part of Macken's mating strategy?
3:28 That is a good question? Love how you answered the question though.
That first question is really weird I fell hard for a girl called Jasmine and she told me I ticked all her boxes and how amazing I was and then the next day she told me that she wasn’t quite feeling it.
No way.
You need to be at Chris Williamson's
Feminine features on males are less intimidating, easier to perceive as non threatening they get away with more also applies to how they sound & carry themselves. Also lures Bi-s & Women in their masculine & under developed tweenies.
Can you link the surveys to This nice guy scenario?
The Fugère study
6:04 So basically women are attracted to JoJo characters, especially from Golden Wind 😂
Regarding the last question. French Court in the 18th century? Exception that proves the rule are am I onto something?
Tell me about it? Not familiar.
How can I ask these questions without sounding like I was weaned on leaded? 😅
And the most important question got the least amount of air time 😂
Which one?
@@murphymacken If you're really a silly little guy!
Regarding you answer to why do humans mate in private, you missed an answer that seems rather obvious. when humans are mating they are more vulnerable. Whilst engaging in the act you are focused on what’s happening in the moment, your guard is down and your perception of threat is naturally lowered. This his Humans would have naturally tended to find shelter and safety to mate as Away from other predatory males or onlookers of any kind
Understand the idea but I believe the reason this explanation isn’t favored is because other animals face this same threat, often to greater degrees, and yet they almost all mate publicly.
shocker:women choses chads and tyrones over the normies
Hopefully he answers the question I submitted!
UPDATE: He didn't 😞
What was your question?
@@murphymacken I've been watching and listening to your videos for quite sometime. I'm gay and I just think the principles that you mention are also applicable to people with homosexual orientation regardless of the prevalent LGBT culture. Am I thinking right?
@@murphymacken Very curious about your POV and research on the impact of race/ethnicity with respect to dating and relationships
@@MaruTheGreatgood question but might be difficult to find a lot of hard data on this issue aside from a few broad polls….? I see quite a few young guys that obsess about race and think it makes a huge difference. I disagree
If you're black or a person of color then yes it matters a lot. FD signifier has a video on the topic, it was originally titled swirlconomics. If you're too lazy to watch, then the tldr is the difference in culture is too big in a country like the US where black culture is way of self defense for black people. They learn and grow by being together. @@brianmeen2158
Facial features or weight? That's a stupid question. When you're heavy, your face generally looks significantly worse. Noone looks great with a chubby bloated face, that's common sense. Now if the question is: great body and average face or average body and great face? The answer is the latter. Face is generally prefered, especially for longterm relationships/marriage. Plus body can be improved. There is gym for the body, there is no gym for the face.
Do men look for a certain goldilocks balance with women's appearances too or something else? And why for both men and women?
Like every woman asks "why am I not attracted to guys I know would be good mates" Jesus what must that be like
It’s simple I think in most cases - those men just did not give these women the “tingles”.. it is very important that even if you check most or all of her boxes that you make her feel something.
@@brianmeen2158How does one give the tingles?
@@musayibghani3986 😏☺️
amazing content but the captions are about to give me a ceizure
Does much younger females hookup with older mates for short term providing he is good looking enough?
Older dudes are only long term. The whole point of older dudes is that they can provide more.
Older dudes are still just dudes. Older guy might get treated differently or maybe not, just another pawn in their game lol
Age gap relationships statistically do not work
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For me, it looks like you downplay the importance of sociocultural factores in favor of evolutionary/genetic ones, this is probably an epistemological thing more than a "science=true" thing
Interesting 🤔
Damn. So men are not supposed to be rich, but be handsome first
no guy questions?
It's so sad to see you had no choice but putting subtitles like that because humans' attention span has gotten shorter than that of gold fish. I like the content but that subtitle is annoying af fr
It’s actually so he can used the same video but trimmed for social media.
Human mating researcher.....
Is there a away as a man to make your self more attractive to women?
As an older woman I'd have to say, a young male specifically is the WORST. Worst person to be speaking in the subject. There is no way to improve, give up because you are wrong wrong wrong.
Watch the recent video by some chick where she debunks evolutionary psych. Pls
😂