Great test Dave, and interesting results mate. I know my Koi are going absolutely daft for the Saki that I’m using for the first time. Keep the tests coming… 👍🏼 Saves all of us doing it…. 🤷🏼♂️ 😂🤣
You doing this trial has made my mind up I’ll most definitely only being feeding Saki to my older koi And this year decided to get 7 grow on koi in a heated pond One question Dave I have followed you on this from the start but can’t remember how you did the returns to the pond Basically is there a current/flow to make them move more if you get what I’m asking But I do think you have some really nice pieces there mate like the red Kujaku and the third Showa you pulled out that’s really nice Look forward to more content
If budget is no problem then Saki appears to be the answer. No worries dude the return is just one pipe from the pump which goes through the Ozone UV and then the venturi before splitting into to buy a t piece and returning. All above water level. I am going to have a little play around in the off season to see what I can do differently. Done nothing aesthetic yet all just an effort to get up running and moving lots I want to "finish"
@@OrchardKoi yeah I actually watched the video you did on it Only reason I’m asking is that I watched Ricky from koi wholesale talking about his grow on ponds and says that good food heat good filteration and a current/flow being in one direction type of thing brings them on fantastic so thinking of above water return making the flow or returning under the water say midway for flow as at the minute it just returns like a shower
@@bladelowe yeah exactly the ethos Im going for just haven't got to that part yet. I'm really relying on the air pump to give me good flow although there is a middle ground with that. With running the venturi I have to be careful of back pressure. 👍😊
From what you have shown with the pro bites, I would be very hesitant to use it myself. Body is everything in development and it would be interesting to see how long it takes for the body to right itself, if it does? As you say, no selection in size would also be a big issue, as most of us use it to grow tosai ,so if they can't eat it,kind of pointless. Again, from the results you have shown, I personally don't think the colour has the same impact as Saki and the way the koi fed in the clip, shows they aren't as pushed for sure. Will stick with the Saki, as I have definitely seen how it brings on the body with all my grow ons,plus, adds size in a more uniform way. As always, great review and insights.very interesting and entertaining
Cheers dude. Yeah think you are right, if you spending money on high quality fish to grow you want the best you can get. And the pellet size offering baffles me, having said that Saki in small pellets is so hard to get, 15kg only now it seems. Not sure I want the much small pellets as medium works from 18cm ISH .the older fish have done well and shown now signs of poor shape, so this is the only place I would consider it again .and agree with you totally on the colour. Back to drawing board for the next food
@@OrchardKoi I've used the medium pellets from 12cm up with good results and haven't had any issues with them not being able to take them. Ii never bothered with the small and the medium comes in 5kg of that helps any. I'll check if anywhere does the small 5kg and if I find it? I will let you know. But I don't think there is another food that offers and gives the results like saki.
Cheers 😎😊 so I cover those i some videos at the start of this year. There is a project EZ pond playlist on the the channel. They are available new from EZ pond and multiple dealers who sell them, they are made of fibreglass and just short of 2500l each👍
10:46 At this stage, it is more convincing to show them how to swim and eat and how to eat like mad, rather than listing the benefits of each intermediate stage.
@@OrchardKoi As I show in my video, it is easy for us Japanese to imagine from experience that if you continue with the process, they will almost double in size when they are harvested in autumn, so we tend to be nosy and say that it is a waste to interrupt them at this time of year and bother to show them off!
@@atsuminaoki9910 yeah which I get and agree with, but I need to be able to show the fish for RUclips, but as I say in it was hesitant to interfere too much as not wanting to disturb them 😊👍
Great video Dave , interesting results 👍🏼👍🏼
@@jiffsterkoi cheers dude. Has been great to see
Interesting results Dave, good growth on the pro bites 👍🏼👌🏼
Yeah definitely works in that aspect, and let's people see enough to make their own choices😊👍cheers dude
I'm sincerely impressed-kudos to you!
@@recreepy cheers dude☺️👍 timing was impeccable watching a horror film and saw your channel logo pop up🤣
Some great results there in such a short window well done looking forward to the next update 👍 👏 🙏
Cheers Scrag, hopefully they carry on full steam and colour stays strong. 😊👍
Hi Dave,
A other great information on the food and fish are looking amazing mate keep the good work mate.
Steve
Cheers Steve always appreciated 😊👍
Enjoyed that Dave, really like your Ochiba, ticks my box. Good work and feedback from your testing 👍
Cheers Paul, been a big of dark horse that one the way it's developed. has made its way into my breeding stock for next year I think. 😊👍
Great test Dave, and interesting results mate.
I know my Koi are going absolutely daft for the Saki that I’m using for the first time.
Keep the tests coming… 👍🏼 Saves all of us doing it…. 🤷🏼♂️ 😂🤣
Andy they would go nuts over peanuts 😂 be like an emergency air drop😂😂. Cheers dude, Saki defo is going to take some beating. Just wish it was cheaper
@@OrchardKoi 😂🤣👍🏼
nice experiment, interesting results
Cheers Marcus 😊👍
Nice update Dave 👍
Cheers Cesca😊👍
You doing this trial has made my mind up
I’ll most definitely only being feeding Saki to my older koi
And this year decided to get 7 grow on koi in a heated pond
One question Dave I have followed you on this from the start but can’t remember how you did the returns to the pond
Basically is there a current/flow to make them move more if you get what I’m asking
But I do think you have some really nice pieces there mate like the red Kujaku and the third Showa you pulled out that’s really nice
Look forward to more content
If budget is no problem then Saki appears to be the answer. No worries dude the return is just one pipe from the pump which goes through the Ozone UV and then the venturi before splitting into to buy a t piece and returning. All above water level. I am going to have a little play around in the off season to see what I can do differently. Done nothing aesthetic yet all just an effort to get up running and moving lots I want to "finish"
@@OrchardKoi yeah I actually watched the video you did on it
Only reason I’m asking is that I watched Ricky from koi wholesale talking about his grow on ponds and says that good food heat good filteration and a current/flow being in one direction type of thing brings them on fantastic so thinking of above water return making the flow or returning under the water say midway for flow as at the minute it just returns like a shower
@@bladelowe yeah exactly the ethos Im going for just haven't got to that part yet. I'm really relying on the air pump to give me good flow although there is a middle ground with that. With running the venturi I have to be careful of back pressure. 👍😊
nice results mate
Cheers Kevin 😊👍
From what you have shown with the pro bites, I would be very hesitant to use it myself. Body is everything in development and it would be interesting to see how long it takes for the body to right itself, if it does? As you say, no selection in size would also be a big issue, as most of us use it to grow tosai ,so if they can't eat it,kind of pointless. Again, from the results you have shown, I personally don't think the colour has the same impact as Saki and the way the koi fed in the clip, shows they aren't as pushed for sure. Will stick with the Saki, as I have definitely seen how it brings on the body with all my grow ons,plus, adds size in a more uniform way. As always, great review and insights.very interesting and entertaining
Cheers dude. Yeah think you are right, if you spending money on high quality fish to grow you want the best you can get. And the pellet size offering baffles me, having said that Saki in small pellets is so hard to get, 15kg only now it seems. Not sure I want the much small pellets as medium works from 18cm ISH .the older fish have done well and shown now signs of poor shape, so this is the only place I would consider it again .and agree with you totally on the colour. Back to drawing board for the next food
@@OrchardKoi I've used the medium pellets from 12cm up with good results and haven't had any issues with them not being able to take them. Ii never bothered with the small and the medium comes in 5kg of that helps any. I'll check if anywhere does the small 5kg and if I find it? I will let you know. But I don't think there is another food that offers and gives the results like saki.
Great video good few tips where did you get your black plastic tank from where you have your fish in ?
Cheers 😎😊 so I cover those i some videos at the start of this year. There is a project EZ pond playlist on the the channel. They are available new from EZ pond and multiple dealers who sell them, they are made of fibreglass and just short of 2500l each👍
not bad to have dust in food if you have fry great video
Yeah very true 😂 cheers dude 😊👍
10:46 At this stage, it is more convincing to show them how to swim and eat and how to eat like mad, rather than listing the benefits of each intermediate stage.
I think that is the point atsumi they don't go crazy for it , which makes it alot harder to get the freezing frenzy everythime. 😊👍
@@OrchardKoi As I show in my video, it is easy for us Japanese to imagine from experience that if you continue with the process, they will almost double in size when they are harvested in autumn, so we tend to be nosy and say that it is a waste to interrupt them at this time of year and bother to show them off!
@@atsuminaoki9910 yeah which I get and agree with, but I need to be able to show the fish for RUclips, but as I say in it was hesitant to interfere too much as not wanting to disturb them 😊👍