Don't scrape your painted popcorn ceiling. SKIM COAT IT!!!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Don't scrape your painted popcorn ceiling. Skim coat it! In today's skim coating tutorial. I'm going to show you how to skim coat over painted popcorn ceiling fast and easy!
I'll also give you a sneak peak into an entire video series where I transform an ugly popcorn ceiling into beautiful new modern finish with a skip trowel texture. So stay tuned... Thanks so much for watching and Subscribing to my channel! -Paul
And if you missed Prat 1 of this skim coating video series? I showed you how to mix the joint compound for skim coating over a heavy textured ceiling.
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Can you skim coat non painted popcorn ceiling ?
Hi Mary, no it will just fall off... You’re going to have to either prime it first or scrape it off. If your ceiling is before 1982 you’ll need to get a small sample and send in for testing to see if it has asbestos in it. I hope this helps. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck Thank you so much. So instead of scraping with all that dust I can prime ceiling and then skim coat. For me at age 70 that may be my best bet.Thanks again. I love your channel !!
Yes, that’s correct Mary.👍🏻 Good luck with your project! Let me know if you run into any questions along the way.😎 -Paul
Good video I subbed something I need to take care of whole house has that crap on the ceiling thanks again
I've been painting and drywalling for 24 years now and this guy definitely knows his stuff. Thank you very much for your expertise and knowledge
He knows how to waste a bunch of time. Nobody is going to pay you for your time to do that.
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Wrong. I’ll pay him to do it.
I just attempted my bedroom ceiling; What a hassle !
Professionals like yourself truly make this an artwork !
I appreciate that man!👍🏻 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
Not kidding skim coating is hella difficult without the popcorn in the way. Been trying to do just one long living room wall with lots of old repairs and such from being a rent house for 40 years. What a pain it's been to get smooth I'm ready to just fork over the money saved for another project and hire a professional. Great videos and very well explained. Could be an instructor for the way you explain techniques so someone like me who's never in their life touched a trowel and had no idea what a hawk was until just recently. Thank for taking the time to record and post your work.
He makes it looks easy lol
you aint joking
I’ve come to like drywalling. It’s extremely rewarding to see the finished outcome.
I've been in business near 20 year's and no matter if I've been doing all tricks of the trades I still enjoy watching other knowledged tradesman. I don't believe in to much learning. Thanks for your videos and clean language as explain the Technics as are performing your job to help us better jobs for customers.
My first time doing drywall work I was terrible but your videos helped a lot. Only 3rd time doing it, I skimmed my popcorn ceiling today and it looks great.
The only time when popcorn finish looks good is when you can't see the shit!!!
Agreed
Also agreed!
The worst.... my house has so much of downstairs I’m dreading it
or you at least painted over the damn sparkles LOL
Thanks for making me laugh... I needed that !!!
OMG, once again, a brilliant idea that I never would have thought of! This would have saved my all kinds of time on my last home!!!
Oh my gosh! I don't think I am able to do this at my age and steadyness on a ladder. BUT I will show my son. This is wonderful info. Thank you soooooo much.
I really appreciate that Dianne.💥👊🏻 Good luck with your project. Let me know if your son runs into any questions along the way. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
Really nice video I’m a plasterer from uk we would just use a trowel to skim to make it much easier than using a knife. Great video and very skilful
I really appreciate that Jan!👍🏻 Good to know my friend. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck are you in miami?..I need appraisal for 560 square feet approximate..thanks
Good stuff chief. i have a 41 yr old home that whose pop corn painted over multiple times- scrape failed. I put new drywall on the living and dining room but the bedrooms haven't been done. I may try this in one of them and see how it goes.
👏👏👏👏👏thank You I didn’t even know u could do this.. they all said u have to scrape it off.
It's cheaper if the popcorn ceiling has NOT been painted and you can just scrape it off.
Asbestos wasn't banned from popcorn until 1982, so it's a health hazard to scrape off old popcorn if you don't know when it was applied. He should mention this at the start of the video
888strummer but what most people don't realize is how to scrape it and the process of doing the scraping and disposing is fine even if asbestos or to the crazy extreme of lead it's fine! But most people don't know!
@@kenbarr7069 I would never recommend a homeowner scrape asbestos off of ceilings. And I think a video like this should begin by explaining that asbestos wasn't banned from popcorn ceilings until 1982. A separate video can be made to show ways of safely removing asbestos or lead as you are right there are safe practices for removal. The best advise I give people is to simply never buy a home with popcorn ceilings if they don't like popcorn. As a contractor for 30+ years I'm amazed at all the people who buy a new home with popcorn and then call me and ask if I can remove the popcorn. And when I tell them I don't remove popcorn or skim over it, they get very upset. There is so much work where I live that I luckily can pick and choose all my work. But again; I'll never understand why any homeowner who hates popcorn ceilings would buy a home with popcorn!
That's amazing!!!
Drywalling is truly an art, it really requires skill and technique!!!
GOOD JOB!!!!
I’ve got so much of this work to do… Thanks for the video.
I subbed when I heard all purpose, I just skimmed a farmhouse used 35 gal and have 35 to go. this stuff is amazing I finished a homeowners hang job of course no glue, lol didn't crack once and it sanded perfect because I only sand off 1% anyhow.
Wow 🤩 now this is one way I’m going get rid of my popcorn ceiling in the future when I redo the house again
There's something curiously relaxing about watching a pro skim coat a wall or ceiling. Fascinating actually 🤔. I'll take on almost anything...but not this. I'd rather watch you do it. GREAT JOB! 👍🏼
I do this all the time. I have a question though. Ive found that when you have a ceiling that was originally put up over oil based paint, then painted with a latex, the mud can cause the existing texture to crack and peal off bringing the mud down with it. Have you seen this? How do you deal with it?
I am a DIYer I am also a woman but I am a jack of all trades and I do quite well. I just repaired an emissions leak in my jeep so with that taken care of there are no more codes for my EVAP system. I can now get a smog. I have popcorn ceilings I’m not sure if there’s asbestos in there so I’ll have them tested first but I think I would like to just skim coat them as you did. This would be a lot safer I think a lot easier even though it’s a lot of work it’s easier because my popcorn ceilings are on plaster my whole house is plaster not drywall period. About 17 years ago 16 years ago when we bought the house I recessed lighting put in and they had to scrape the popcorn to make The recessed lighting lay flat because they asked me if I wanted that done I said sure because I had planned on getting the ceiling scraped eventually. And then I got a divorce so that was no longer feasible. I wonder now how many fibers if this is asbestos were released into the air or if I should’ve painted over that scraped portion or if I still should paint over that’s great portion. I didn’t know back then what I learned now.
I love this idea! Is it cheaper than popcorn ceiling removal?
Thanks Paul ,I will start my skimcoating índole painted popcorn ceiling
Your are a master coating !
Beautiful work my friend !! EASTER EGG for those who are in dire need to defeat your popcorn demon - THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU CAN GET IT OFF IN ABOUT A DAYS WORK = The trick for chiseling it off is spray an area down with light water mist and then hit with a heat gun - Put your heat gun on high (around 1000) -you can do it yourself or have a friend move ahead of you with the heat gun - BEST to chisel while the painted popcorn has been softened and expanded by the heat gun following not too long after its been hit by the heat gun - a normal bedroom could be done in a day especially if you have an assistant w/the heatgun - its not so hard as it is tedious so be patient and accept that this is what your doing for the whole day lol -GOODLUCK
I'd hoped i could tackle this project, but I'm rethinking my limited construction abilities.... ;-)
Seems more of a skill, which happens with practice. My back & neck hurt just watching, with 1 eye on my ugly popcorn ceiling with silver chunky glitter from the late 60's. Ugh.....
Awesome. Wish I had watched your videos prior to starting on my ceilings!
This makes sense. Thanks for sharing this technique.
That was very informational and gave me hope for my popcorn ceilings. I’d like to see your other videos.
Omfg ive killed TWO electric sanders, put in ALOT of hours sanding by hand, tryna get that popcorn crap off the ceiling in my bathroom! It had about 3 ( minimum) layers of paint, btw.. Ive just begun the 4th or 5th MONTH of this project (im still recovering from an injury to the achilles heel where i cut into the nerve behind my ankle. Yeah. OUCH, indeed!).. anyway, this video of urs is a TOTAL game changer!! Thank u soo much!! Oh.. & my HEEL thanks u too!!
UPDATE"
Ive (finally!!) got the whole ceiling done, a whole wall, and now working on the second. Following ur advice has been a total game changer for me. i had a little setback due to some of that popcorn crap that had found its way into the drains of both my tub and sink, thereby creating a clog/blockage from HELL!! I was ready to pour some muriatic acid down the drains-it was a nightmare! Thankfully a manager at my local home depot was able to stop me in time to save my drains!! lol Either way, my project has been going swimmingly now, and is moving along nicely.. Thanks again!!
where do you live? my whole house was popcorned I hate it. I would like my whole house redone. how wonderful.
I always use Ultra light weight mud for this type of work...& Follow up with a coat of oil base primer, before a finish coat of paint. No problems....
I feel like all purpose joint compound is a better choose for the first skim. Because the AP has a lot more glue in it. Which gives you better adhesion capabilities.👍🏻 What are your thoughts on that Sonny? I really appreciate your feedback back Sonny!😎 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man! -Paul
Paul Peck DrywallTube / yeah, I normally use all purpose mud for the same reason, but, never had a problem using ultra light on ceilings only. Not sure about the "glue" content in the mud ???? Some people use light weight mud on tape joints ; what a joke.....
Our home was built in 2003. Is the popcorn adhered strongly enough to add a product on top of it? Will it all fall down ecventually? Thank you so much for sharing your expertise, artistry and craftsmanship.
This is awesome work, just what I was looking for to get rid of popcorn ceiling in my current kitchen renov. Thanks!!!
Good tips. My whole house is popcorn ceilings.
#drywalltube ... great video! We have about 1500 sq ft of popcorn ceiling in our house I’d love to remove. Some of it has been painted and some has not. I’ve been hearing the painted popcorn is a real bear to remove. I really like this skim coat option and it seems like a much easier solution!
Glad I found this channel. Thanks for the huge tip.
Right on John!🔥 I really appreciate your feedback!💥👊🏻 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
This is what I'm working on now
Paul, if the ceiling has not been painted, is this method of covering a popcorn ceiling better/easier than scrapping it off?
#DRYWALL AMAZING! Don't scrape popcorn ceiling video!
Acoustic!
As soon as the popcorn gets moist, it de-laminates and starts to peel. I have to do a test coat and see if it falls down.
I don’t see a bell notification. Has RUclips changed. Seems I subscribed but am never alerted to new vids.
Why not cover it with 1/4" sheetrock and tape it, it seems way faster, labor vs material cost
Sheet rock is expensive, though
@@LG-er6ng 11 a board, that is cheap considering it will take an hour to hang, hour to mud and tape all joints, or you can spend 40 for two buckets of joint compound and take all day smoothing it out, and the next day sanding and cleaning.
Ok, send me $ please, lol
Still got to skim it
Dampen the popcorn, scrape easy, skim it out. Doing it through the whole house. Not fun, but looks MUCH better👍🏻
Yep!👍🏻 Checkout this video of mine: ruclips.net/video/Fz63ATjiVdY/видео.html I think you’ll like it Rob! Let me know what you think! -Paul
@@PaulPeck yes. We just diid half our house, and will be doing the rest and.skimming once we get the money. Perfect, thanks!
So I might have messed up. I just used Kilz 2 (a water based primer) instead of an oil based primer. Do you know if skim coating over Kilz 2 works as well as the oil based Kilz when skim coating a popcorn ceiling?
Awesome! was just going to scrape until I watched this! thank you. The house I am flipping has plaster walls. Insane to take down. Dry wall is easy!
Sherman Williams sells latex release it will remove painted texture
Great video on a terrific idea. Thank you.
Great job! 👌
Also Paul have you ever had painted popcorn ceiling bubble up after applying skim coat over it
I bought a bucket of all purpose joint compound, it came out a slightly Grey color, is the mud supposed to be white?
Very cool....will it work on an unpainted popcorn ceiling? im thinking no....like one you tried to paint with a roller and it comes off....guessing it needs a spray coat then mud it? or wet it scrape? i hate to scrape it house is 1946...sure it has asbestos in it... florida...good mud guys make it look easy nice videos.....
Thanks for the informative videos 🙏
Right on man!💥 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
@Paul Peck DrywallTube I just recently purchased home that was built in 1974 that most likely has asbestos in the popcorn ceiling. Would you still recommend doing skim coats or just removing it all?
If it’s a heavy popcorn spray can you still go over it without scraping? I do like your channel
Nice work
Thanks
Is this a good option if there is asbestos in the popcorn texture?
What type of mud are you using on your first coat?Yellow( taping mud) or green( finish mud)
Would this apply to painted plaster as well ? My hause was build in the 1920 and its all plastered / popcorn dont like it at all
Great video. Thank you!
Do you still believe you shouldn't use a roller and should use all purpose compound?
really useful
This looks like a god damn nightmare. I guess at the end of the day it's way faster than re & reing. Thanks for the tip!
I taped and finished drywall for 15yrs. Although skimming the acoustic ceiling looks like the easy answer, it’s not. Scraping it and completing the first coat drywall finish is the best way.
Exactly, the weight will also make it sag. Then when it moves the mud will crack and eventually come off.
This was a nightmare. No warning that the mud could make the popcorn fall off. I applied lightly, but after checking on it a couple of hours after finishing, a three by four-foot chunk had dropped straight down to the floor. A hundred bucks down the drain as well as $300 for an asbestos inspector--now that the popcorn's been disturbed. Another couple hundred minimum, depending on the asbestos results, and more labor to redo.
How do I determine if my popcorn ceiling has been painted?
Can you do this even if it's not a painted ceiling? I really don't want to scrape my ceilings.
I have a much better way to do this. Lightly scrape the ceiling, then apply a mix of PVA glue and water. Then import 2 or 3 bags of Thistle Multi Finish from the UK and find a British plasterer to do a proper plaster job. Stronger and smoother than anything done in North America.
But this is really good work.
Does the popcorn ceiling need to be painted to skim coat it? Also what are the disadvantages to this approach?
Yes, if it’s not painted you can easily scrape it off. Painted popcorn does not come off easily so might as well cover it
Will this work if l just used zinser 123 and there is still dark water stains and some particles have fallen out ?
This is ok when the popcorn is low ONLY!
I put bonding and then finishing on ceiling and 4 days later it came crashing down all of it?! Why? Any help pls
What about non painted popcorn? Asbestos?
I wish I would have known this before I had it removed 🙁
Wish I watched this a day ago 😭
How long does it last?
Hashbrown Drywall toob! Lol
Paul-What does a pro charge to skim a 10x10 room?
Fabric softener would have loosen it up
After you scraped it with a 14in knife....
Would have came down in sheets.....
could you spray it on thick with a gun to go faster?
drywall tube
Can I just hire you to do this for me???
I just did 400+ sq/ft in a 2 step process, literally followed these instructions to the last word, except I used a smaller knife because I couldn’t get a bigger one. Couple touch ups after two coats with MINOR sanding after using the knife to knock down ridges, looks banging. Thanks for the tips!
That’s awesome man!💥👊🏻 I’m glad my videos could help you. I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck i have same type ceilng,will i need 2 coats of mud?
This here is the definition of "experience". Bravo in a big way
Not sure how I got this video, but stayed to watch the skim coating exhibition.
see THIS makes sense, if you do take the PC off, you still need to skim coat the drywall
Im a professional drywall taper for over 7 years and its by far the best recommendation I have seen online good job 👏
Do you think there might be a way to shoot mud up there and then hit it with a big blade to speed things up?
Probably by using a roller? And then smoothing it out with a blade, let it dry up and sand it down for that smooth finish and it would be ready to paint.
Fyi: I just got that info from another video 😂😅
Do you still have to have the ceiling tested for asbestos if you do it that way?
@@nadinequintieri3621 you will have it under but it wont show on your asbestos inspections if you cover properly it is more dangerous if you scrape it because it will be on the air even when contaied you better off covering it
Thank you so much for replying! So if we just cover the popcorn ceiling by skimming over it can we still interfere with the asbestos or will it stay stable. I'm so confused on what to do.
27 year veteran of the remodel world and the first 10, drywall only. The key to skim coat is to pull the mud one direction and skim 90 degrees to the skim. It will smooth out so much better and make the second coat a lot easier........of course experience trumps almost any trade, the longer you do it the better you'll get, no matter how many videos you watch. 45 or 90 minute mud is so much better for the first coat any day of the year and it save s the dry time as well
Nice job!! I have a job coming up and was hesitant on removing the gloss painted ceiling but when I saw this…I was like “sweet” that’s time saving, faster, without all the breathing dust, and mess to clean up! Thanks I’m gonna watch this again before I start the job!
Thank you!!!! I have an ENTIRE HOUSE with popcorn ceilings. CATHEDRAL Ceilings! 4 bedrooms and living room. Now you’ve made my day!
My 2000 square foot house has 1 cathedral and 2 tray ceilings. The entire house was popcorn when I moved in. I scraped, textured, and painted all my ceilings myself, with the exception of one cathedral ceiling which I contracted out. Turned out fine.
@@sa3270when you say "textured" did you do orange peel on your skimmed ceilings?
Yeah jump right on that. 😂
@@UVIckiWhat’s orange peel? It’s either popcorn, knock down, or skim trawled.
Wow, good job, good idea for covering skim coating the popcorn ceiling! I like that idea less of a mess! Two thumbs up!
Nice job of smoothing the ceiling; I'm sure with the second coat, it will be nearly flat. The paint that was previously applied to the popcorn must have made it into a much stronger substrate than the popcorn-alone would have been. What I don't get is why the owner would want to mess it up with yet another texture; I'll bet that in a few years there will be a plethora of videos on how to skim over a skip-trowel finish.
Exactly my thoughts.
Hi Paul, not sure if this question has already been asked but what do you recommend if the popcorn has not been painted? Thanks, and I love your videos!
What did you end up doing to harden it?
you make it look so easy. very thorough in explanations. thank you paul!
I would love to do that to my pop corn ceiling, you make that look so simple very nice job.
I appreciate that David!💥👊🏻 Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
Nice Paul, thank you so much I am going to be looking for a way to do this in our house really soon this is great timing, I was thinking I'd have to scrape it all off at first.
Right on Chris!👊🏻 Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
So we don't have to take down any of the nasty popcorn ceiling right ? Just skimming over it will do the trick right ? don't judge me im slow LOL no seriously iam slow when it comes to most projects im kinda of a hands on learner. Ty again guys.
I’m pretty handy around the house but no way would I even try to do this myself!
Drywall tube. Nice work man! Ya I was shown by an older boss of mine how to skim coat without sanding between coats or pretty much at all.. wed knockdown after so wasn't necessary. But his stuff honestly looked finished. He prided himself on not even having one on job site. Not sure I agree but it taught me to not rely on a pole sander and just use that 6 in between coats. I still try not to use a sander when I do any mudwork but I find myself going over
things more than I should if I just sanded..I just hate the dust and mess and added labor! Thanks for the good info and videos! Im Floating my hallway over popcorn currently but it's taking me two coats to look like your one.. gonna do rooms later with some of the tips u gave.
one of the best videos i seen on drywall. I have been doing drywall and painting for the last 10 years and this is legit.
What about If the popcorn has been painted with a semi gloss paint, Do I need to prime it first?
Lol doesnt matter if it's an old popcorn ceiling. It will come off if its properly done. Plastering over all that popcorn is a hassle and waste of time. Also finished product doesnt come out as nice. Not trying to be a "hater" myself lol but I oftenly do to this stuff and hearing you guys say either plaster over it or put new drywall did catch my attention and thought I'd put out there for your followers.. 👋
Just moved into a older building and saw those lovely popcorn ceilings. I'm a rookie so I know I probably can't do it, but at least I've learned how to do this and what to ask for.