Here's the entire Skim Coating over a textured ceiling Playlist Series: ruclips.net/p/PL7Ww-LhWbB0HItcbzpNDOItxexzM40BTc Below in Paul's Drywall and Painting Shop are all of the tools and products I used in this video: ▶ www.amazon.com/shop/paulpeck 🔴 Be sure to SUBSCRIBE for more useful Tips goo.gl/Es5k5z Thanks for being a part of this Community! -Paul 👍😎
Hi Mary, no it will just fall off... You’re going to have to either prime it first or scrape it off. If your ceiling is before 1982 you’ll need to get a small sample and send in for testing to see if it has asbestos in it. I hope this helps. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck Thank you so much. So instead of scraping with all that dust I can prime ceiling and then skim coat. For me at age 70 that may be my best bet.Thanks again. I love your channel !!
I just did 400+ sq/ft in a 2 step process, literally followed these instructions to the last word, except I used a smaller knife because I couldn’t get a bigger one. Couple touch ups after two coats with MINOR sanding after using the knife to knock down ridges, looks banging. Thanks for the tips!
That’s awesome man!💥👊🏻 I’m glad my videos could help you. I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
Probably by using a roller? And then smoothing it out with a blade, let it dry up and sand it down for that smooth finish and it would be ready to paint. Fyi: I just got that info from another video 😂😅
@@nadinequintieri3621 you will have it under but it wont show on your asbestos inspections if you cover properly it is more dangerous if you scrape it because it will be on the air even when contaied you better off covering it
Thank you so much for replying! So if we just cover the popcorn ceiling by skimming over it can we still interfere with the asbestos or will it stay stable. I'm so confused on what to do.
My 2000 square foot house has 1 cathedral and 2 tray ceilings. The entire house was popcorn when I moved in. I scraped, textured, and painted all my ceilings myself, with the exception of one cathedral ceiling which I contracted out. Turned out fine.
27 year veteran of the remodel world and the first 10, drywall only. The key to skim coat is to pull the mud one direction and skim 90 degrees to the skim. It will smooth out so much better and make the second coat a lot easier........of course experience trumps almost any trade, the longer you do it the better you'll get, no matter how many videos you watch. 45 or 90 minute mud is so much better for the first coat any day of the year and it save s the dry time as well
Not kidding skim coating is hella difficult without the popcorn in the way. Been trying to do just one long living room wall with lots of old repairs and such from being a rent house for 40 years. What a pain it's been to get smooth I'm ready to just fork over the money saved for another project and hire a professional. Great videos and very well explained. Could be an instructor for the way you explain techniques so someone like me who's never in their life touched a trowel and had no idea what a hawk was until just recently. Thank for taking the time to record and post your work.
Just moved into a older building and saw those lovely popcorn ceilings. I'm a rookie so I know I probably can't do it, but at least I've learned how to do this and what to ask for.
Nice job!! I have a job coming up and was hesitant on removing the gloss painted ceiling but when I saw this…I was like “sweet” that’s time saving, faster, without all the breathing dust, and mess to clean up! Thanks I’m gonna watch this again before I start the job!
I've been in business near 20 year's and no matter if I've been doing all tricks of the trades I still enjoy watching other knowledged tradesman. I don't believe in to much learning. Thanks for your videos and clean language as explain the Technics as are performing your job to help us better jobs for customers.
My first time doing drywall work I was terrible but your videos helped a lot. Only 3rd time doing it, I skimmed my popcorn ceiling today and it looks great.
I'm not a contractor, I'm just here for tips... And, I've realized, happily, from your video what a true pro can do... So, instead of DIY, I'm going to do some more research & hire someone to skim my ceilings... Cool to see you work though... Backbreaking work, but man, it looks great!
After wetting and scraping my master bath I sanded the ceiling and painted it. It looks great, but I was not looking forward to doing it throughout my house and had decided to just repaint my popcorn ceilings. Now that I've seen your video I will do a small bedroom first to see how well it goes skimming the ceiling. So glad I found your channel. Thanks!
That's really a great idea. When I remodeled our 40 year old rental property, I sprayed a light coat of water on the ceiling and the popcorn textured pealed right off for me. On the negative side, this method was extremely (and I do mean extremely) messy and I had a helper who was a bit too aggressive with the scraping and did cause a bit of damage with the scraping knife. I wish I would have known this 5 years ago. Thanks for sharing.
i was a union carpenter for 10 years now im a drywall contractor and i agree with everything you said especially about useing the all purpose to skim it does have more glue
Drywall tube. Nice work man! Ya I was shown by an older boss of mine how to skim coat without sanding between coats or pretty much at all.. wed knockdown after so wasn't necessary. But his stuff honestly looked finished. He prided himself on not even having one on job site. Not sure I agree but it taught me to not rely on a pole sander and just use that 6 in between coats. I still try not to use a sander when I do any mudwork but I find myself going over things more than I should if I just sanded..I just hate the dust and mess and added labor! Thanks for the good info and videos! Im Floating my hallway over popcorn currently but it's taking me two coats to look like your one.. gonna do rooms later with some of the tips u gave.
I like the skim coat idea. I have to bid on a studio apt today & the customer wants the popcorn gone. It's a rental so I'm going to try to talk him out of it with high $ numbers. He's a friend & I have plenty of inside work here in Wyoming. I started my biz in 1997 & I've done all the textures but skip trowel is my favorite. Thanks for the idea.
Oh my gosh! I don't think I am able to do this at my age and steadyness on a ladder. BUT I will show my son. This is wonderful info. Thank you soooooo much.
I really appreciate that Dianne.💥👊🏻 Good luck with your project. Let me know if your son runs into any questions along the way. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
I was stumped on how to get rid of the ugly popcorn ceiling in my bathroom. We were having a problem with mold in the cracks. This tip helped me figure out how to transform my bathroom! THANKS!
Nice job of smoothing the ceiling; I'm sure with the second coat, it will be nearly flat. The paint that was previously applied to the popcorn must have made it into a much stronger substrate than the popcorn-alone would have been. What I don't get is why the owner would want to mess it up with yet another texture; I'll bet that in a few years there will be a plethora of videos on how to skim over a skip-trowel finish.
Thank you for this! I was about to try to remive my sisters popcorn ceiling and this looks like a better alternative. Thank you for this helpful video. You are a skilled drywaller! I hope you are getting paid well for your skills. Thank you and God Bless you!
I do 2 things prior to skim coating over painted acoustical 1 light sanded of the high spots or Blades the ceilings then skim coat it really helps with chatter marks. Love your videos you good work my friend
FANTASTIC tips! Never would’ve thought to encapsulate this way. Excellent! I would probably even prefer doing this to removal of an unpainted popcorn ceiling, since skim coating has minimal risk of asbestos exposure. Thankfully, I don’t presently have any popcorn ceilings in my life.
Hi, you are doing a great job on the skim coat. I am a retired drywall finisher of 21 years. We would have one guy roll the mud on and the other guy skim coat. On a big project take turns rolling and skim coating. Did you ever just use a sprayer and wet the popcorn down then scrape it off? Anyway that work will give you strong bicep's for sure.
This is the video I was looking for last fall when I did this to the whole house. I did basically what you showed took two coats then a light sanding I then sprayed orange peel on ceiling and walls. You make it look very easy it took me a long time and I made a good mess but it turned out well.
Good stuff chief. i have a 41 yr old home that whose pop corn painted over multiple times- scrape failed. I put new drywall on the living and dining room but the bedrooms haven't been done. I may try this in one of them and see how it goes.
We tried removing popcorn from our kitchen ceiling using recommended techniques online. We’re big (or were-getting on) diy people, but gave up on the popcorn removal-wasn’t going well at all. Did luck out and found a guy who hung new drywall over the old ceiling. Joint compound on the seams. I sanded the few spots that needed it, and we primed and repainted. So that’s a great option. But was $500 -one room. We’d like to do our whole house. But our house is a cape, so bedrooms upstairs have slightly sloped edges. Your technique will handle that problem great-learning curve definitely needed with the gentle sloping, but will be way better than what we have now. Thanks so much for a great solution!
This is so awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I'm just getting ready to remodel a 70's home with popcorn ceiling and was not looking forward to it!
Beautiful work my friend !! EASTER EGG for those who are in dire need to defeat your popcorn demon - THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU CAN GET IT OFF IN ABOUT A DAYS WORK = The trick for chiseling it off is spray an area down with light water mist and then hit with a heat gun - Put your heat gun on high (around 1000) -you can do it yourself or have a friend move ahead of you with the heat gun - BEST to chisel while the painted popcorn has been softened and expanded by the heat gun following not too long after its been hit by the heat gun - a normal bedroom could be done in a day especially if you have an assistant w/the heatgun - its not so hard as it is tedious so be patient and accept that this is what your doing for the whole day lol -GOODLUCK
Hey there Jay!💥👊🏻 Yes skim coating is a bit of a workout for sure. But the results are usually well worth the effort!👍🏻 Thanks for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
OMG thank you for your videos. I have been in a nightmare with my house and the texture walls and ceilings. I wish I would have known this trick before I painted my bed room.
This drywall video helps tremendously. I have a 2-family with lots of painted popcorn on plaster. I have already removed the plaster to replace with drywall on the 2nd floor. I think on the 1st floor I will keep the plaster and try to skim coat the popcorn walls and ceiling. Can you tell me the dimension of your walls and ceilings and how long it roughly takes?
Hi Steven, I’m glad you’re enjoying and learning from my videos!👍🏻 Your walls have popcorn too? The room in the video is 14’x14’. It took me 30 to 45 minutes to apply each skim coat to the ceiling. I hope this helps. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck Hello, yes the walls and ceilings have popcorn also the walls are all plaster. I am removing the bad plaster walls and will remove the ceilings because I want to insert insulation. Just wondering since I will have a mix of drywall and plaster in which all of the plaster will be skim coated once I have everything painted will the whole room should look like new drywall correct?
I've done a lot of drywall repair on walls and ceiling. Always shied away from textured ceilings. I have a ceiling with water damage to fix the leak and replace the damaged drywall and blend in the stippled texture. After watching your instruction, no more doubts about my ability..
Nice Paul, thank you so much I am going to be looking for a way to do this in our house really soon this is great timing, I was thinking I'd have to scrape it all off at first.
So we don't have to take down any of the nasty popcorn ceiling right ? Just skimming over it will do the trick right ? don't judge me im slow LOL no seriously iam slow when it comes to most projects im kinda of a hands on learner. Ty again guys.
Except u have to buy maybe 4 sheets of sheetrock, a box of 100 screws, put it up, buy joint tape and a box of mud, a mud pan, a mud knife, tape and bed the joints, sand the mud and paint it. So ur still gonna have to buy the mud any ways so?!?
Not to mention you generally need multiple people and or a drywall hoist. Have to mark our the studs, get your tape lines looking good and fill all the screw holes. A skim coat is half the time and a 1/5 of the coat.
The problem here is that old popcorn doesn't have a strong bond to the underlying sheetrock. By putting mud, then primer and paint x 2 over it you're adding a lot of weight and eventually it's going to come off in sheets. Not tomorrow or even next year necessarily, but eventually. Use something like a wallpaper remover tool to poke thousands of little holes through the paint, then spray water on it, wait 30 mins, spray water again x 3 and start scraping.
My take is to attempt to scrape it. I tried hot water, vinnegar etc. It's best to skim at this point. The bond the popcorn has to the sheetrock is dam near glue. Yes, I got underneath the paint, still to hard. Scrape if possible, skim if bond is strong.
I tried scraping my popcorn ceiling off even wet it a bit to try to loosen it up. My house is built in 1976 I don’t know what they used but when scraped into felt like I was scraping stucco lol 😂 . Ended up skim coating it and dam it looks awesome 👏🏽👌🏾
I do this all the time. I have a question though. Ive found that when you have a ceiling that was originally put up over oil based paint, then painted with a latex, the mud can cause the existing texture to crack and peal off bringing the mud down with it. Have you seen this? How do you deal with it?
Your technique is marvelous. If I had that, I'd do my own popcorn ceiling. I am considering doing it tho. I just think it will be a whole lot of work. The walls turned out beyond my expectation.
You make skim coating a ceiling look so easy. I have done 3 ceiling in my house and I find it to be difficult. I think I’m not using the right mud or mix correctly. I use a lighter mud that is supposed to reduce dust in sanding but I think the mud you are using is probably better so I might look for that brand and also follow your mixing and roll on method. Looks easier.
I subbed when I heard all purpose, I just skimmed a farmhouse used 35 gal and have 35 to go. this stuff is amazing I finished a homeowners hang job of course no glue, lol didn't crack once and it sanded perfect because I only sand off 1% anyhow.
Hi Paul, not sure if this question has already been asked but what do you recommend if the popcorn has not been painted? Thanks, and I love your videos!
Asbestos wasn't banned from popcorn until 1982, so it's a health hazard to scrape off old popcorn if you don't know when it was applied. He should mention this at the start of the video
888strummer but what most people don't realize is how to scrape it and the process of doing the scraping and disposing is fine even if asbestos or to the crazy extreme of lead it's fine! But most people don't know!
@@kenbarr7069 I would never recommend a homeowner scrape asbestos off of ceilings. And I think a video like this should begin by explaining that asbestos wasn't banned from popcorn ceilings until 1982. A separate video can be made to show ways of safely removing asbestos or lead as you are right there are safe practices for removal. The best advise I give people is to simply never buy a home with popcorn ceilings if they don't like popcorn. As a contractor for 30+ years I'm amazed at all the people who buy a new home with popcorn and then call me and ask if I can remove the popcorn. And when I tell them I don't remove popcorn or skim over it, they get very upset. There is so much work where I live that I luckily can pick and choose all my work. But again; I'll never understand why any homeowner who hates popcorn ceilings would buy a home with popcorn!
Painted popcorn does come off scrape off hot water and vinegar and Dawn soap spray let's set for 20min to 30min spray again before scraping to lower dust and this way you only have to skim coat once and for me personally I can scrape popcorn faster then skim coating over it
Agreed. I'm a painting contractor. I ran a bucket of vinegar / water mixture through a small old sprayer I no longer used. My wife and I had 2200 sq ft of house prepped with plastic, ,sprayed and removed in under 4 hours. After that I did a decent amount of mud work to ensure the ceilings were flawless prior to paint, however it wasn't a big job. Everyone cries Asbestos...we wore respirators and when you wet it down there is very little dust that gets in the air.
Awesome video! Good pointers about using the green lid joint compound for higher glue and to not thin it down this much. Keep up the great work! #drywalltube
I feel like all purpose joint compound is a better choose for the first skim. Because the AP has a lot more glue in it. Which gives you better adhesion capabilities.👍🏻 What are your thoughts on that Sonny? I really appreciate your feedback back Sonny!😎 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man! -Paul
Paul Peck DrywallTube / yeah, I normally use all purpose mud for the same reason, but, never had a problem using ultra light on ceilings only. Not sure about the "glue" content in the mud ???? Some people use light weight mud on tape joints ; what a joke.....
Hey Paul! I was so inspired by your video I decided to skim coat the bathroom ceiling to cover up the sprayed on knockdown. I was warned by a friend that over the shower it may bubble and then fall, which it did. I ended up having to scrape all of it over the shower off. Should I merge it together with what I have done so far, or scrape it all and start fresh? The rest seems to be fine.
Scraping takes way less time. Skimming takes at least 2coats, sanding, touch up and a ton of skill. Not to mention if that popcorn has not been painted it super dusty which will not allow the mud to stick and over short time it will flake off.
Hi Paul. First of all I would like you to know that I am a housewife that knows enough about fixing things around the house to be a little dangerous but smart enough to know when I need help. I have been dreading taking down popcorn ceiling that has no easy solution to be taken down out of my entire house. I’ve done three rooms and a small bathroom so far and you are absolutely correct there is no easy way to get that flat and not Making a dusty mess throughout your entire house because of the sanding. I even used plastic on all the walls the doors taped it to tarps in the floor and it still made a mess throughout my downstairs. I decided to go with the one that you showed using the sand and joint compound. However, I think I’m not seeing your video that shows the issue with popcorn ceiling if the drywall under it has never been primed or painted. Then adding that sand compound. So what’s the best way about going about that. I live in Augusta Georgia area And wouldn’t mind a quick phone call. I am always up for good suggestions
Well, like he says, it doesn't have to be perfect if you are going to texture it anyway. I'm not great at stuff like that but I can do it, and I'm a mechanic not a carpenter!!
I used to put a little plaster of paris in the first coat to get it to set faster, then you can just smooth the ridges instead of scrapping them in 5-10 minutes.
@@LG-er6ng 11 a board, that is cheap considering it will take an hour to hang, hour to mud and tape all joints, or you can spend 40 for two buckets of joint compound and take all day smoothing it out, and the next day sanding and cleaning.
Omfg ive killed TWO electric sanders, put in ALOT of hours sanding by hand, tryna get that popcorn crap off the ceiling in my bathroom! It had about 3 ( minimum) layers of paint, btw.. Ive just begun the 4th or 5th MONTH of this project (im still recovering from an injury to the achilles heel where i cut into the nerve behind my ankle. Yeah. OUCH, indeed!).. anyway, this video of urs is a TOTAL game changer!! Thank u soo much!! Oh.. & my HEEL thanks u too!!
UPDATE" Ive (finally!!) got the whole ceiling done, a whole wall, and now working on the second. Following ur advice has been a total game changer for me. i had a little setback due to some of that popcorn crap that had found its way into the drains of both my tub and sink, thereby creating a clog/blockage from HELL!! I was ready to pour some muriatic acid down the drains-it was a nightmare! Thankfully a manager at my local home depot was able to stop me in time to save my drains!! lol Either way, my project has been going swimmingly now, and is moving along nicely.. Thanks again!!
#drywalltube I don't have any popcorn, but I do have some ceilings where you can see the butt joints in the right light. You've inspired me to pick up some all purpose and do something about it!
You're an angel and wish I'd sen this year ago when I scrapped bathroom, hallways...but fortunately enough for me - I have the rest fo the howue to do and these are vaulted ceilings! 😢(oh joy)
Here's the entire Skim Coating over a textured ceiling Playlist Series: ruclips.net/p/PL7Ww-LhWbB0HItcbzpNDOItxexzM40BTc Below in Paul's Drywall and Painting Shop are all of the tools and products I used in this video: ▶ www.amazon.com/shop/paulpeck 🔴 Be sure to SUBSCRIBE for more useful Tips goo.gl/Es5k5z Thanks for being a part of this Community! -Paul 👍😎
Can you skim coat non painted popcorn ceiling ?
Hi Mary, no it will just fall off... You’re going to have to either prime it first or scrape it off. If your ceiling is before 1982 you’ll need to get a small sample and send in for testing to see if it has asbestos in it. I hope this helps. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck Thank you so much. So instead of scraping with all that dust I can prime ceiling and then skim coat. For me at age 70 that may be my best bet.Thanks again. I love your channel !!
Yes, that’s correct Mary.👍🏻 Good luck with your project! Let me know if you run into any questions along the way.😎 -Paul
Good video I subbed something I need to take care of whole house has that crap on the ceiling thanks again
I've been painting and drywalling for 24 years now and this guy definitely knows his stuff. Thank you very much for your expertise and knowledge
He knows how to waste a bunch of time. Nobody is going to pay you for your time to do that.
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Wrong. I’ll pay him to do it.
I just did 400+ sq/ft in a 2 step process, literally followed these instructions to the last word, except I used a smaller knife because I couldn’t get a bigger one. Couple touch ups after two coats with MINOR sanding after using the knife to knock down ridges, looks banging. Thanks for the tips!
That’s awesome man!💥👊🏻 I’m glad my videos could help you. I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck i have same type ceilng,will i need 2 coats of mud?
Im a professional drywall taper for over 7 years and its by far the best recommendation I have seen online good job 👏
Do you think there might be a way to shoot mud up there and then hit it with a big blade to speed things up?
Probably by using a roller? And then smoothing it out with a blade, let it dry up and sand it down for that smooth finish and it would be ready to paint.
Fyi: I just got that info from another video 😂😅
Do you still have to have the ceiling tested for asbestos if you do it that way?
@@nadinequintieri3621 you will have it under but it wont show on your asbestos inspections if you cover properly it is more dangerous if you scrape it because it will be on the air even when contaied you better off covering it
Thank you so much for replying! So if we just cover the popcorn ceiling by skimming over it can we still interfere with the asbestos or will it stay stable. I'm so confused on what to do.
This here is the definition of "experience". Bravo in a big way
Not sure how I got this video, but stayed to watch the skim coating exhibition.
Thank you!!!! I have an ENTIRE HOUSE with popcorn ceilings. CATHEDRAL Ceilings! 4 bedrooms and living room. Now you’ve made my day!
My 2000 square foot house has 1 cathedral and 2 tray ceilings. The entire house was popcorn when I moved in. I scraped, textured, and painted all my ceilings myself, with the exception of one cathedral ceiling which I contracted out. Turned out fine.
@@sa3270when you say "textured" did you do orange peel on your skimmed ceilings?
Yeah jump right on that. 😂
@@UVIckiWhat’s orange peel? It’s either popcorn, knock down, or skim trawled.
27 year veteran of the remodel world and the first 10, drywall only. The key to skim coat is to pull the mud one direction and skim 90 degrees to the skim. It will smooth out so much better and make the second coat a lot easier........of course experience trumps almost any trade, the longer you do it the better you'll get, no matter how many videos you watch. 45 or 90 minute mud is so much better for the first coat any day of the year and it save s the dry time as well
I just attempted my bedroom ceiling; What a hassle !
Professionals like yourself truly make this an artwork !
I appreciate that man!👍🏻 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
Not kidding skim coating is hella difficult without the popcorn in the way. Been trying to do just one long living room wall with lots of old repairs and such from being a rent house for 40 years. What a pain it's been to get smooth I'm ready to just fork over the money saved for another project and hire a professional. Great videos and very well explained. Could be an instructor for the way you explain techniques so someone like me who's never in their life touched a trowel and had no idea what a hawk was until just recently. Thank for taking the time to record and post your work.
He makes it looks easy lol
you aint joking
Just moved into a older building and saw those lovely popcorn ceilings. I'm a rookie so I know I probably can't do it, but at least I've learned how to do this and what to ask for.
one of the best videos i seen on drywall. I have been doing drywall and painting for the last 10 years and this is legit.
The only time when popcorn finish looks good is when you can't see the shit!!!
Agreed
Also agreed!
The worst.... my house has so much of downstairs I’m dreading it
or you at least painted over the damn sparkles LOL
Thanks for making me laugh... I needed that !!!
Nice job!! I have a job coming up and was hesitant on removing the gloss painted ceiling but when I saw this…I was like “sweet” that’s time saving, faster, without all the breathing dust, and mess to clean up! Thanks I’m gonna watch this again before I start the job!
I've been in business near 20 year's and no matter if I've been doing all tricks of the trades I still enjoy watching other knowledged tradesman. I don't believe in to much learning. Thanks for your videos and clean language as explain the Technics as are performing your job to help us better jobs for customers.
My first time doing drywall work I was terrible but your videos helped a lot. Only 3rd time doing it, I skimmed my popcorn ceiling today and it looks great.
I'm not a contractor, I'm just here for tips... And, I've realized, happily, from your video what a true pro can do... So, instead of DIY, I'm going to do some more research & hire someone to skim my ceilings... Cool to see you work though... Backbreaking work, but man, it looks great!
After wetting and scraping my master bath I sanded the ceiling and painted it. It looks great, but I was not looking forward to doing it throughout my house and had decided to just repaint my popcorn ceilings. Now that I've seen your video I will do a small bedroom first to see how well it goes skimming the ceiling. So glad I found your channel. Thanks!
How did it go
I’ve come to like drywalling. It’s extremely rewarding to see the finished outcome.
This is also a great alternative to scraping the popcorn texture in regards to the possibilities of asbestos in the popcorn texture.
That's really a great idea.
When I remodeled our 40 year old rental property, I sprayed a light coat of water on the ceiling and the popcorn textured pealed right off for me.
On the negative side, this method was extremely (and I do mean extremely) messy and I had a helper who was a bit too aggressive with the scraping and did cause a bit of damage with the scraping knife.
I wish I would have known this 5 years ago.
Thanks for sharing.
Wow, good job, good idea for covering skim coating the popcorn ceiling! I like that idea less of a mess! Two thumbs up!
i was a union carpenter for 10 years now im a drywall contractor and i agree with everything you said especially about useing the all purpose to skim it does have more glue
Drywall tube. Nice work man! Ya I was shown by an older boss of mine how to skim coat without sanding between coats or pretty much at all.. wed knockdown after so wasn't necessary. But his stuff honestly looked finished. He prided himself on not even having one on job site. Not sure I agree but it taught me to not rely on a pole sander and just use that 6 in between coats. I still try not to use a sander when I do any mudwork but I find myself going over
things more than I should if I just sanded..I just hate the dust and mess and added labor! Thanks for the good info and videos! Im Floating my hallway over popcorn currently but it's taking me two coats to look like your one.. gonna do rooms later with some of the tips u gave.
I like the skim coat idea. I have to bid on a studio apt today & the customer wants the popcorn gone. It's a rental so I'm going to try to talk him out of it with high $ numbers. He's a friend & I have plenty of inside work here in Wyoming. I started my biz in 1997 & I've done all the textures but skip trowel is my favorite. Thanks for the idea.
Thanks Brudda, your vids are what the internet was made for.
I appreciate that Jim!👍🏻 I’m glad you’re enjoying my videos! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man!😎 -Paul
And yes Paul I am a drywall contractor 15 years you have a lot of good videos and a new subscriber
see THIS makes sense, if you do take the PC off, you still need to skim coat the drywall
Oh my gosh! I don't think I am able to do this at my age and steadyness on a ladder. BUT I will show my son. This is wonderful info. Thank you soooooo much.
I really appreciate that Dianne.💥👊🏻 Good luck with your project. Let me know if your son runs into any questions along the way. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
I would love to do that to my pop corn ceiling, you make that look so simple very nice job.
I appreciate that David!💥👊🏻 Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
I was stumped on how to get rid of the ugly popcorn ceiling in my bathroom. We were having a problem with mold in the cracks. This tip helped me figure out how to transform my bathroom! THANKS!
Nice job of smoothing the ceiling; I'm sure with the second coat, it will be nearly flat. The paint that was previously applied to the popcorn must have made it into a much stronger substrate than the popcorn-alone would have been. What I don't get is why the owner would want to mess it up with yet another texture; I'll bet that in a few years there will be a plethora of videos on how to skim over a skip-trowel finish.
Exactly my thoughts.
That's amazing!!!
Drywalling is truly an art, it really requires skill and technique!!!
GOOD JOB!!!!
I just want to say, Thanks! You are a great teacher and person to put this info out there. You videos really help!
thank you for sharing this! I am using this technique currently and was surprised how much joint compound is takes to cover up all of the old popcorn!
OMG, once again, a brilliant idea that I never would have thought of! This would have saved my all kinds of time on my last home!!!
Thank you for this! I was about to try to remive my sisters popcorn ceiling and this looks like a better alternative. Thank you for this helpful video. You are a skilled drywaller! I hope you are getting paid well for your skills. Thank you and God Bless you!
you make it look so easy. very thorough in explanations. thank you paul!
I do 2 things prior to skim coating over painted acoustical 1 light sanded of the high spots or Blades the ceilings then skim coat it really helps with chatter marks. Love your videos you good work my friend
I appreciate your input Mario!👍🏻 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man!😎 -Paul
FANTASTIC tips! Never would’ve thought to encapsulate this way. Excellent! I would probably even prefer doing this to removal of an unpainted popcorn ceiling, since skim coating has minimal risk of asbestos exposure. Thankfully, I don’t presently have any popcorn ceilings in my life.
Hi, you are doing a great job on the skim coat. I am a retired drywall finisher of 21 years. We would have one guy roll the mud on and the other guy skim coat. On a big project take turns rolling and skim coating. Did you ever just use a sprayer and wet the popcorn down then scrape it off? Anyway that work will give you strong bicep's for sure.
This is awesome, I wanna do stuff like this and other types of home maintenance for living. It seems very fun
It is a very rewarding trade for sure man!💥👊🏻 Thank you so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
Friends all thought I was crazy, I skim coated liv. rm ceiling, light sand and sprayed knockdown texture, cieling paint,, looks awesome
Really nice video I’m a plasterer from uk we would just use a trowel to skim to make it much easier than using a knife. Great video and very skilful
I really appreciate that Jan!👍🏻 Good to know my friend. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck are you in miami?..I need appraisal for 560 square feet approximate..thanks
3:00-3:15 It's turning out so good it's like you're doing a magic trick. Amazing work!
How long does it take to skim coal a 12x12 ceiling.?
This is the video I was looking for last fall when I did this to the whole house. I did basically what you showed took two coats then a light sanding I then sprayed orange peel on ceiling and walls. You make it look very easy it took me a long time and I made a good mess but it turned out well.
Not many can do this
You got some serious skills
As a taper with 45 years experience I always put up new rock whenever possible, live and learn
Watched till the end, learning as much as I can from your videos. I'll be starting my own projects soon using your knowledge
Good stuff chief. i have a 41 yr old home that whose pop corn painted over multiple times- scrape failed. I put new drywall on the living and dining room but the bedrooms haven't been done. I may try this in one of them and see how it goes.
We tried removing popcorn from our kitchen ceiling using recommended techniques online. We’re big (or were-getting on) diy people, but gave up on the popcorn removal-wasn’t going well at all. Did luck out and found a guy who hung new drywall over the old ceiling. Joint compound on the seams. I sanded the few spots that needed it, and we primed and repainted. So that’s a great option. But was $500 -one room. We’d like to do our whole house. But our house is a cape, so bedrooms upstairs have slightly sloped edges. Your technique will handle that problem great-learning curve definitely needed with the gentle sloping, but will be way better than what we have now. Thanks so much for a great solution!
This is so awesome! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I'm just getting ready to remodel a 70's home with popcorn ceiling and was not looking forward to it!
Hahaha! don't do it like this!
I did my 70s home in a similar fashion. Well worth the effort. I am an amateur not a pro. It will get your upper body 8nto fantastic shape.
Beautiful work my friend !! EASTER EGG for those who are in dire need to defeat your popcorn demon - THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU CAN GET IT OFF IN ABOUT A DAYS WORK = The trick for chiseling it off is spray an area down with light water mist and then hit with a heat gun - Put your heat gun on high (around 1000) -you can do it yourself or have a friend move ahead of you with the heat gun - BEST to chisel while the painted popcorn has been softened and expanded by the heat gun following not too long after its been hit by the heat gun - a normal bedroom could be done in a day especially if you have an assistant w/the heatgun - its not so hard as it is tedious so be patient and accept that this is what your doing for the whole day lol -GOODLUCK
I skim coated an old 3 story house in North Portland Or it was lath and plaster my Gosh what a job my arms were noodles at the end of that hellish job
Hey there Jay!💥👊🏻 Yes skim coating is a bit of a workout for sure. But the results are usually well worth the effort!👍🏻 Thanks for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
We use 90 minute mix 1st coat then 2nd coat compound takes 24 hrs to paint ,all in a day came out beautiful.
OMG thank you for your videos. I have been in a nightmare with my house and the texture walls and ceilings. I wish I would have known this trick before I painted my bed room.
I bought a scraper for $17 at Home Depot . What a mess I made . Can’t wait to show this video to my husband. Thank you for this video ❤️
This drywall video helps tremendously. I have a 2-family with lots of painted popcorn on plaster. I have already removed the plaster to replace with drywall on the 2nd floor. I think on the 1st floor I will keep the plaster and try to skim coat the popcorn walls and ceiling. Can you tell me the dimension of your walls and ceilings and how long it roughly takes?
Hi Steven, I’m glad you’re enjoying and learning from my videos!👍🏻 Your walls have popcorn too? The room in the video is 14’x14’. It took me 30 to 45 minutes to apply each skim coat to the ceiling. I hope this helps. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man!😎 -Paul
@@PaulPeck Hello, yes the walls and ceilings have popcorn also the walls are all plaster. I am removing the bad plaster walls and will remove the ceilings because I want to insert insulation. Just wondering since I will have a mix of drywall and plaster in which all of the plaster will be skim coated once I have everything painted will the whole room should look like new drywall correct?
I've done a lot of drywall repair on walls and ceiling. Always shied away from textured ceilings. I have a ceiling with water damage to fix the leak and replace the damaged drywall and blend in the stippled texture. After watching your instruction, no more doubts about my ability..
Nice Paul, thank you so much I am going to be looking for a way to do this in our house really soon this is great timing, I was thinking I'd have to scrape it all off at first.
Right on Chris!👊🏻 Thanks so much for watching and commenting my friend!😎 -Paul
So we don't have to take down any of the nasty popcorn ceiling right ? Just skimming over it will do the trick right ? don't judge me im slow LOL no seriously iam slow when it comes to most projects im kinda of a hands on learner. Ty again guys.
Very informative since I moved into a home with the entire house that crazy old ceilings
Just put 1/4 sheetrock up and finish it. Lot easier than mudding an entire ceiling!
Except u have to buy maybe 4 sheets of sheetrock, a box of 100 screws, put it up, buy joint tape and a box of mud, a mud pan, a mud knife, tape and bed the joints, sand the mud and paint it. So ur still gonna have to buy the mud any ways so?!?
Not to mention you generally need multiple people and or a drywall hoist. Have to mark our the studs, get your tape lines looking good and fill all the screw holes. A skim coat is half the time and a 1/5 of the coat.
@@garrettfalls7953 u sound like someone how might do this for a living!
Putting up 10 drywall sheets and doing all that work and prep sounds a hell of a lot harder than pushing mud onto a ceiling.
For this size room what @ would you charge to do it this way
Wow 🤩 now this is one way I’m going get rid of my popcorn ceiling in the future when I redo the house again
The problem here is that old popcorn doesn't have a strong bond to the underlying sheetrock. By putting mud, then primer and paint x 2 over it you're adding a lot of weight and eventually it's going to come off in sheets. Not tomorrow or even next year necessarily, but eventually. Use something like a wallpaper remover tool to poke thousands of little holes through the paint, then spray water on it, wait 30 mins, spray water again x 3 and start scraping.
Interesting idea about poking holes through paint! Will try doing so in another room that still has popcorn ceiling.
You must not do this for a living
Im a painter,it wont add weight,its thin
@@tomlehr861 35 years experience tells me otherwise
My take is to attempt to scrape it. I tried hot water, vinnegar etc. It's best to skim at this point. The bond the popcorn has to the sheetrock is dam near glue. Yes, I got underneath the paint, still to hard. Scrape if possible, skim if bond is strong.
I tried scraping my popcorn ceiling off even wet it a bit to try to loosen it up. My house is built in 1976 I don’t know what they used but when scraped into felt like I was scraping stucco lol 😂 . Ended up skim coating it and dam it looks awesome 👏🏽👌🏾
pre 2000, or even pre 90, chances are there's asbestos in it, DONT scrape it without checkinng it out first
I do this all the time. I have a question though. Ive found that when you have a ceiling that was originally put up over oil based paint, then painted with a latex, the mud can cause the existing texture to crack and peal off bringing the mud down with it. Have you seen this? How do you deal with it?
Your technique is marvelous. If I had that, I'd do my own popcorn ceiling. I am considering doing it tho. I just think it will be a whole lot of work. The walls turned out beyond my expectation.
What about If the popcorn has been painted with a semi gloss paint, Do I need to prime it first?
You make skim coating a ceiling look so easy. I have done 3 ceiling in my house and I find it to be difficult. I think I’m not using the right mud or mix correctly. I use a lighter mud that is supposed to reduce dust in sanding but I think the mud you are using is probably better so I might look for that brand and also follow your mixing and roll on method. Looks easier.
Do you have to do any prep to the ceiling? Tsp wash or anything if there have been heavy smokers in there?
I would prime the entire ceiling with an oil base primer like Kilz or B-I-N or The nicotine will bleed through leaving yellow stains.👍🏻
Also quit smoking...its bad for your lungs!!!!
Ohhh it’s painted !! Thought it wasn’t wen not it’s a nightmare I would believe.. good vid
Yes, some painted popcorn ceilings can be impossible to remove... Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
I subbed when I heard all purpose, I just skimmed a farmhouse used 35 gal and have 35 to go. this stuff is amazing I finished a homeowners hang job of course no glue, lol didn't crack once and it sanded perfect because I only sand off 1% anyhow.
Hi Paul, not sure if this question has already been asked but what do you recommend if the popcorn has not been painted? Thanks, and I love your videos!
What did you end up doing to harden it?
I skimmed over mine. It’s so much better than chiseling it off!
I’m pretty handy around the house but no way would I even try to do this myself!
I scrapped off unpainted popcorn and replaced with waxed venetian plaster on two coats of primer. Turned out beautiful
👏👏👏👏👏thank You I didn’t even know u could do this.. they all said u have to scrape it off.
It's cheaper if the popcorn ceiling has NOT been painted and you can just scrape it off.
Asbestos wasn't banned from popcorn until 1982, so it's a health hazard to scrape off old popcorn if you don't know when it was applied. He should mention this at the start of the video
888strummer but what most people don't realize is how to scrape it and the process of doing the scraping and disposing is fine even if asbestos or to the crazy extreme of lead it's fine! But most people don't know!
@@kenbarr7069 I would never recommend a homeowner scrape asbestos off of ceilings. And I think a video like this should begin by explaining that asbestos wasn't banned from popcorn ceilings until 1982. A separate video can be made to show ways of safely removing asbestos or lead as you are right there are safe practices for removal. The best advise I give people is to simply never buy a home with popcorn ceilings if they don't like popcorn. As a contractor for 30+ years I'm amazed at all the people who buy a new home with popcorn and then call me and ask if I can remove the popcorn. And when I tell them I don't remove popcorn or skim over it, they get very upset. There is so much work where I live that I luckily can pick and choose all my work. But again; I'll never understand why any homeowner who hates popcorn ceilings would buy a home with popcorn!
Jesus why couldn’t I have seen this video yesterday. Kudos to you good sir.
Painted popcorn does come off scrape off hot water and vinegar and Dawn soap spray let's set for 20min to 30min spray again before scraping to lower dust and this way you only have to skim coat once and for me personally I can scrape popcorn faster then skim coating over it
The popcorn texture may have asbestos in it, according to info on other channels. So, it's better to skim coat the ceilings.
Agreed. I'm a painting contractor. I ran a bucket of vinegar / water mixture through a small old sprayer I no longer used. My wife and I had 2200 sq ft of house prepped with plastic, ,sprayed and removed in under 4 hours. After that I did a decent amount of mud work to ensure the ceilings were flawless prior to paint, however it wasn't a big job. Everyone cries Asbestos...we wore respirators and when you wet it down there is very little dust that gets in the air.
We spray it down with water and wait about 5 minutes and comes right off
Thanks Paul ,I will start my skimcoating índole painted popcorn ceiling
Your are a master coating !
Awesome video! Good pointers about using the green lid joint compound for higher glue and to not thin it down this much. Keep up the great work! #drywalltube
I always use Ultra light weight mud for this type of work...& Follow up with a coat of oil base primer, before a finish coat of paint. No problems....
I feel like all purpose joint compound is a better choose for the first skim. Because the AP has a lot more glue in it. Which gives you better adhesion capabilities.👍🏻 What are your thoughts on that Sonny? I really appreciate your feedback back Sonny!😎 Thanks so much for watching and subscribing man! -Paul
Paul Peck DrywallTube / yeah, I normally use all purpose mud for the same reason, but, never had a problem using ultra light on ceilings only. Not sure about the "glue" content in the mud ???? Some people use light weight mud on tape joints ; what a joke.....
I love this idea! Is it cheaper than popcorn ceiling removal?
I Loathe popcorn ceilings
Thank you for this!
Much better than scraping it!
Hey Paul! I was so inspired by your video I decided to skim coat the bathroom ceiling to cover up the sprayed on knockdown. I was warned by a friend that over the shower it may bubble and then fall, which it did. I ended up having to scrape all of it over the shower off. Should I merge it together with what I have done so far, or scrape it all and start fresh? The rest seems to be fine.
Cut it out in shower area and greenboard? Or maybe just use a good sealing/bonding primer do like 3 coats on the ceiling area and reapply your skim.
I’ve got so much of this work to do… Thanks for the video.
Scraping takes way less time. Skimming takes at least 2coats, sanding, touch up and a ton of skill. Not to mention if that popcorn has not been painted it super dusty which will not allow the mud to stick and over short time it will flake off.
Keyword in the title says painted
Hi Paul. First of all I would like you to know that I am a housewife that knows enough about fixing things around the house to be a little dangerous but smart enough to know when I need help. I have been dreading taking down popcorn ceiling that has no easy solution to be taken down out of my entire house. I’ve done three rooms and a small bathroom so far and you are absolutely correct there is no easy way to get that flat and not Making a dusty mess throughout your entire house because of the sanding. I even used plastic on all the walls the doors taped it to tarps in the floor and it still made a mess throughout my downstairs. I decided to go with the one that you showed using the sand and joint compound.
However, I think I’m not seeing your video that shows the issue with popcorn ceiling if the drywall under it has never been primed or painted. Then adding that sand compound. So what’s the best way about going about that. I live in Augusta Georgia area And wouldn’t mind a quick phone call. I am always up for good suggestions
So how much I can pay for some one can I do this job in my apartment??
Thanks!
Wow!💥I really appreciate the Super Thanks!!🙏😎
And if you don't have a few years experience in drywall finishing don't even try this.
Yep
Well, like he says, it doesn't have to be perfect if you are going to texture it anyway. I'm not great at stuff like that but I can do it, and I'm a mechanic not a carpenter!!
THIS! This is NOT a DiY technique
Exactly Bruce. This is very tough physically and only someone with many years experience can do this right.
Bruce Dakan My thought exactly!
I used to put a little plaster of paris in the first coat to get it to set faster, then you can just smooth the ridges instead of scrapping them in 5-10 minutes.
Saves on cost of having it tested for asbestos and abatement too.
Yes very true!👍🏻 Encapsulation is usually the best option. Thanks for watching and commenting man!😎 -Paul
Ur a blessing to single people. I have to do my on work. God gives me the strength 💪..
Why not cover it with 1/4" sheetrock and tape it, it seems way faster, labor vs material cost
Sheet rock is expensive, though
@@LG-er6ng 11 a board, that is cheap considering it will take an hour to hang, hour to mud and tape all joints, or you can spend 40 for two buckets of joint compound and take all day smoothing it out, and the next day sanding and cleaning.
Ok, send me $ please, lol
Still got to skim it
I have been dreading taking down my popcorn ceiling, this could be the answer, thanks 😊
I soak the ceiling with a pump sprayer before scraping
Me to . I have even overlayed with another sheet.
Soaking and scraping only works if it hasn't been painted
Omfg ive killed TWO electric sanders, put in ALOT of hours sanding by hand, tryna get that popcorn crap off the ceiling in my bathroom! It had about 3 ( minimum) layers of paint, btw.. Ive just begun the 4th or 5th MONTH of this project (im still recovering from an injury to the achilles heel where i cut into the nerve behind my ankle. Yeah. OUCH, indeed!).. anyway, this video of urs is a TOTAL game changer!! Thank u soo much!! Oh.. & my HEEL thanks u too!!
UPDATE"
Ive (finally!!) got the whole ceiling done, a whole wall, and now working on the second. Following ur advice has been a total game changer for me. i had a little setback due to some of that popcorn crap that had found its way into the drains of both my tub and sink, thereby creating a clog/blockage from HELL!! I was ready to pour some muriatic acid down the drains-it was a nightmare! Thankfully a manager at my local home depot was able to stop me in time to save my drains!! lol Either way, my project has been going swimmingly now, and is moving along nicely.. Thanks again!!
#drywalltube I don't have any popcorn, but I do have some ceilings where you can see the butt joints in the right light. You've inspired me to pick up some all purpose and do something about it!
That’s awesome Wan Jae!!👍🏻 Let me know how that skim coating goes! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing my friend!😎 -Paul
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Hey Paul just wondering if it’s ok to slim coat them in places like Ontario, will they crack a lot with the change is seasons winters?
You're an angel and wish I'd sen this year ago when I scrapped bathroom, hallways...but fortunately enough for me - I have the rest fo the howue to do and these are vaulted ceilings! 😢(oh joy)
Good luck.😅 Thank you so much for watching and commenting!💥👍🏻😎
Ok I'm in it now... and this popcorn is dropping mess all over me 😢
How do you avoid the mess??