Jay I really appreciate the follow up videos, Ive had my mini split for a year in my shop and just cleaned it for the first time. You can imagine the horror 😂. Both of your follow of videos have given me the confidence to go ahead and build my own.
I too remember when you built that filtration box and WOW that worked way better than I could have imagined. I figured the filters would clog up every 6 months or so, but WOW! Nice engineering:)! And we seldom get to see the long term results of a given project and I have really enjoyed this video as well as your recent dust collection update and shop tour update. Everything has become so well placed and integrated!
I think at some point it will clog up, but those filters are pretty large and he has 12 of them I think ? That's a lot of surface area. My air filtration unit has like half the surface area of one of those filters and it clogs up pretty fast, but here he has like 24 times that surface ... that's pretty big. What he did is a good solution IMO.
I remember when you built that you talked about cycling it with the filter cart. Every couple months you would grab the set from a head unit and put them on your filter cart.
Thanks for this video - I have been trying to think of a way to do this for my shop - I have a mini-split. You're right, they really work great. I will most likely borrow your design and reshape it to fit my space
I do like the idea, but would suggest changing at least every year depending on how much dust you're creating in your shop. If you have a dust filtration system, that'll help reduce the need for filter changes. Although filters may not "look" dirty, that doesn't mean they aren't clogged and restricting airflow.
I won't use the other side. That puts the dirty side into the clean box, allowing dirt into the system. Filters like this are directional with or flow. Only one direction should be used.
Definitely works well. Not even any dust on the plastic to cover up it's reflection. I have recommended your video to many people looking at Minisplits for shop use. That said I'm still running a 24000 BTU window unit in my shop until I finish my doubling up of insulation in it. It's way too small of a unit for my shop now but with the insulation I'm adding it should be just fine even on days like this week when it's 103-107*. If I do end up going with minisplits in my shop it will get the filter treatments as well because I produce allot of very fine dust and fine metallic dust as well which isn't good for thin aluminum tubes. I have not been kind to my window unit and it even has black paint on the coils etc... But it still works well albeit noisy and not as efficient as a minisplit.
Did you do a video on your "new" shop's heating and cooling and the installation of these filters? I searched through your videos and could not find one. I have a shop roughly the same size and wanted more info on your setup.
I had a 18 k btu unit in my shop in Nashville. only maintenance item besides the filter was the condensation drain on the head unit growing gunk and blocking the drain. A/C guy told me to put a cap not a cup full of bleach in the drain to stop it kill the gunk from growing. Also heat pump drain it house attic. Works good no more blockages.
Hi Jay! Good to see you again! Something I’ve been wondering about: how to find, or determine, or estimate, the surface area of the filter media in pleated filters; and the resistance of different MERV classes. I have been unable to locate any such data from manufacturers or resellers. I did find a comment - it was either an article or video, I cannot be sure at this point - that the resistance of four inch MERV 14 filters was about the same as the resistance from a one inch MERV 4 filter - about the same as the cheapest one inch furnace filters. I was surprised to find recently that a five inch MERV 13 filter appeared to restrict air flow much more than expected. Any suggestions, guidance, rule of thumb, would be most appreciated. Thanks again for all you’ve done! I have learned SO much from your videos! Stay safe!
Actually, you should listen to Gree. They recommend using a ducted version instead of a wall mount so that it can properly be filtered and you don't have to have such a huge setup, because wall mounts are very low static units but ducted ones can be a bit higher.
Looks great, Jay! Really excellent idea! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 BTW, I also use electrical tape on my mini split in my bedroom... But so that damn LED allows me to sleep! 😂
I'm curious on how well a part that air cleaner cart plays in the longevity of those mini splits.... also, how often do u change out the filters on the air cleaner cart?.
Ok I don’t pretend to know a ton about ac (work in ac when I was young) buttttt,,,, those filters are clogged shut. They should be changed every few months depending on how often the unit is run. If you want to see a difference in your electric bill change them. The way the ac is running now is completely inefficient. I’m not hating, just giving you some advise. I’m rebuilding my house and I have to change my ac filter every month because of the dust I produce. If I forget, my sinuses remind me.
Good job Jay in highlighting this topic ! You've opened my eyes on this . However , if you could , could you make one for residential unit where the mini split is closer to the ceiling ? Probably design one using the same 4 filter but maybe need to be hanged or mounted side by side of the mini splits ? My resources are really dwindling due to Bidenomic .
HA HA to the haters indeed sir! I see no reason at all why adding additional filters wouldn’t help the system. And for most of us who have these in a wood shop, dust is the major leading cause of fatalities…
It's not any better in a metal shop. Even though I do all grinding at my downdraft table with two 20x20x2" MERV15 filters, I still change HVAC filter weekly, sometimes daily as the furnace fan howls from reduced airflow strain. Their slogan is "It's hard to stop a Trane," but I fear it's inevitable in my shop.
Maybe I am wrong, but the front surface of those filters look pretty dirty. A clean/new one would be white, blue, green, ect. Not brown as it looks in the video.
It's dirty, which means it's working. The unit is working as intended with non signs of working harder than it should. Dirty doesn't mean clogged. This is many times more surface area than needed.
Jay I really appreciate the follow up videos, Ive had my mini split for a year in my shop and just cleaned it for the first time. You can imagine the horror 😂. Both of your follow of videos have given me the confidence to go ahead and build my own.
I’m a heating and air guy. That’s a great idea for a shop. Good stuff man. I like how you made it bigger. That allows for great air flow.
I too remember when you built that filtration box and WOW that worked way better than I could have imagined. I figured the filters would clog up every 6 months or so, but WOW! Nice engineering:)! And we seldom get to see the long term results of a given project and I have really enjoyed this video as well as your recent dust collection update and shop tour update. Everything has become so well placed and integrated!
I think at some point it will clog up, but those filters are pretty large and he has 12 of them I think ? That's a lot of surface area. My air filtration unit has like half the surface area of one of those filters and it clogs up pretty fast, but here he has like 24 times that surface ... that's pretty big. What he did is a good solution IMO.
@@kz.irudimenjay has also invested in collecting as much dust at the source as possible so his general air quality is fairly clean.
I recently started building my shop and put a mini-split unit in it. Thanks for this fantastic idea!
I remember when you built that you talked about cycling it with the filter cart. Every couple months you would grab the set from a head unit and put them on your filter cart.
Fantastic!
Hope to get one for my garage this year.
Thanks for this video - I have been trying to think of a way to do this for my shop - I have a mini-split. You're right, they really work great.
I will most likely borrow your design and reshape it to fit my space
I do like the idea, but would suggest changing at least every year depending on how much dust you're creating in your shop. If you have a dust filtration system, that'll help reduce the need for filter changes. Although filters may not "look" dirty, that doesn't mean they aren't clogged and restricting airflow.
I remember when you threw these together. Almost 3 years and you haven’t even used the other side of the filter yet! 😂
I won't use the other side. That puts the dirty side into the clean box, allowing dirt into the system. Filters like this are directional with or flow. Only one direction should be used.
@@JayBates2 Yea, I know. I was just clowning around. Thanks for replying anyway.
Definitely works well. Not even any dust on the plastic to cover up it's reflection. I have recommended your video to many people looking at Minisplits for shop use. That said I'm still running a 24000 BTU window unit in my shop until I finish my doubling up of insulation in it.
It's way too small of a unit for my shop now but with the insulation I'm adding it should be just fine even on days like this week when it's 103-107*. If I do end up going with minisplits in my shop it will get the filter treatments as well because I produce allot of very fine dust and fine metallic dust as well which isn't good for thin aluminum tubes.
I have not been kind to my window unit and it even has black paint on the coils etc... But it still works well albeit noisy and not as efficient as a minisplit.
Did you do a video on your "new" shop's heating and cooling and the installation of these filters? I searched through your videos and could not find one. I have a shop roughly the same size and wanted more info on your setup.
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I had a 18 k btu unit in my shop in Nashville. only maintenance item besides the filter was the condensation drain on the head unit growing gunk and blocking the drain. A/C guy told me to put a cap not a cup full of bleach in the drain to stop it kill the gunk from growing. Also heat pump drain it house attic. Works good no more blockages.
Hi Jay! Good to see you again! Something I’ve been wondering about: how to find, or determine, or estimate, the surface area of the filter media in pleated filters; and the resistance of different MERV classes.
I have been unable to locate any such data from manufacturers or resellers.
I did find a comment - it was either an article or video, I cannot be sure at this point - that the resistance of four inch MERV 14 filters was about the same as the resistance from a one inch MERV 4 filter - about the same as the cheapest one inch furnace filters.
I was surprised to find recently that a five inch MERV 13 filter appeared to restrict air flow much more than expected.
Any suggestions, guidance, rule of thumb, would be most appreciated.
Thanks again for all you’ve done! I have learned SO much from your videos!
Stay safe!
Merv13 is gonna be my new band name!🎸🎸🎸🎸
Actually, you should listen to Gree. They recommend using a ducted version instead of a wall mount so that it can properly be filtered and you don't have to have such a huge setup, because wall mounts are very low static units but ducted ones can be a bit higher.
Very cool and great job!
My HVAC tech says this is an excellent install and I should do the same!
Nelson Muntz tribute to the “Haters”….LMAO. I remember when you first built a that system. Glad to see it has worked better than expected
Looks great, Jay! Really excellent idea! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
BTW, I also use electrical tape on my mini split in my bedroom... But so that damn LED allows me to sleep! 😂
Do you feel the four filters were excessive? Any other changes you might make if you were doing it over again?
I have the same units in my house and have to clean the filter about three times a year.
I'm curious on how well a part that air cleaner cart plays in the longevity of those mini splits.... also, how often do u change out the filters on the air cleaner cart?.
haters gonna hate... you do you and those of us that appreciate what you do and how you do it will still be here.
Did you hold the filter up to the light to see how translucent it was compared to a clean one?
Bill
Makes we wonder if 4 filters were really necessary. 2 or 3 might be just as good, replace them annually, and take up a lot less wall space.
That is unbelievable! What a success! Take that Haters! Jay, you da man!
Did you move your shop around? I thought the miter saw table was near the garage door.
Yes. I published a new shop tour video a few weeks ago on my main channel.
I am confused. The filter is what you threw on the floor. Did you inspect it?
Point: Bates! (haters, zero.)
Been sitting on this one for a bit?
Not a hater but where is the dust? Not on the filters so are they needed?
Why 4 filters? A house only needs one per unit, so I’m wondering why you added so many!
Ok I don’t pretend to know a ton about ac (work in ac when I was young) buttttt,,,, those filters are clogged shut. They should be changed every few months depending on how often the unit is run. If you want to see a difference in your electric bill change them. The way the ac is running now is completely inefficient. I’m not hating, just giving you some advise. I’m rebuilding my house and I have to change my ac filter every month because of the dust I produce. If I forget, my sinuses remind me.
April?! Now I’m wondering when most of your videos were actually filmed lol.
hahaha. This one I actually forgot about. Recorded and edited it right before a busy stretch and it got lost in the shuffle.
Good job Jay in highlighting this topic ! You've opened my eyes on this . However , if you could , could you make one for residential unit where the mini split is closer to the ceiling ?
Probably design one using the same 4 filter but maybe need to be hanged or mounted side by side of the mini splits ? My resources are really dwindling due to Bidenomic .
HA HA to the haters indeed sir! I see no reason at all why adding additional filters wouldn’t help the system. And for most of us who have these in a wood shop, dust is the major leading cause of fatalities…
It's not any better in a metal shop. Even though I do all grinding at my downdraft table with two 20x20x2" MERV15 filters, I still change HVAC filter weekly, sometimes daily as the furnace fan howls from reduced airflow strain. Their slogan is "It's hard to stop a Trane," but I fear it's inevitable in my shop.
Maybe I am wrong, but the front surface of those filters look pretty dirty. A clean/new one would be white, blue, green, ect. Not brown as it looks in the video.
It's dirty, which means it's working. The unit is working as intended with non signs of working harder than it should. Dirty doesn't mean clogged. This is many times more surface area than needed.