DUST COLLECTION - Basics and Setup - Woodworking
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- The most confusing topic when you're getting started woodworking is dust collection. There is a lot of conflicting information but I will break down the dust collection basics and exactly what I use in my small woodworking shop.
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One tip if you're using a Shop-Vac, you can attach an additional hose to the outlet and direct it outside of your shop so any fine dust particles that make it through the filter are pushed to the open air and not into your shop. Just be sure to point the hose at whichever neighbor you like least.
Good tip
the last part is the most important.
@@Coco-qz7fn Funny stuff
The only thing stopping me from doing that is that the noise would likely drive them nuts. I have good neighbors so..
😂😂😂
My friend has been pleased with this vacuum. I put it together and other than one of the wheels coming back out(which I had a bit of difficulty with) ruclips.net/user/postUgkxnBiz5H40H0BTcRcPDEHZkcV2smSjfUD0 it was easy to assemble. It's worked well and the large size has been handy for vacuuming up sawdust around my friend's tablesaw. The wheels and handle make it simple to move around, so the bulky size isn't overly a negative, unless you're lacking on space. It has a bag that can be used to collect the dust, though it doesn't have to be used. It works perfectly great without it and it is an added expense when replacing the bag. If vacumming water, just leave it out. It comes with various attachments, which are handy. A durable bag attaches to the handle to hold them and I love this feature. It has good power and it's a nice option for a shop vac.
thats not a shop vac.
I feel like most of the time it takes me longer than it should to research something new, and what I like about all your videos is that you somehow manage to impart more information, in a shorter amount of time, and with a (semi) humorous touch. Your “straight to the point” narrative is refreshing as it is helpful.
Yeah. I agree. Sadly I am one of those sad people who are too slow or too fast, or on the bad years I am one of those who never really make all of it correctly, seriously NEVER!
Thank you for writing my comment for me. I was considering watching a bunch of dust collection videos yesterday and the prospect of sitting through 27 minutes of poorly-prepared rambling made me postpone it. I'm glad I did, because the algorithm recommended you today.
For what it’s worth, thank you for pushing out information the way you do… Reasonable, well presented, humorous and entertaining. I’ve picked up a hand full of great tips, so thank you again!
I appreciate that!
This guys videos are really informative and entertaining idk why he doesn't have more subscribers.. let's help him beat the algorithm, I know I want to see more of these videos.
I SECOND THIS!
@@Lincolnstww Third! Great vids!
Fourth. I caught one of his other vids and at the point where he said “this video is sponsored by…who are you kidding” = immediate sub, like, notify. Dude has something special here.
Matter of time :)
Well it worked. Idk how this got recommended, but it did, and here I am watching this 😂
Your dry humor is great and paired with actual useful knowledge and tips for DIY people. One of the few youtubers who will be real with you about what you actually need and what would be a luxury item.
Bruh. No fluff, informative, to the point... And just enough moments of memery and self deprication to be funny without trying too hard. Liked & subbed!
Dude I've been binging your videos. I love your humor and no bullshit approach. Such a breath of fresh air compared to the fluffed up and dry videos many others are making. Well done sir.
I got the notification for this video and thought, not another dust collection video really because I have seen a ton dust collection videos and had given up. But then I noticed the video was from you and thought I would be worth a few laughs and some cheap entertainment at the least. You did not disappoint 👏 . Also picked up a few things that I hadn't known before. Well done! You deserve way more subscribers. You're gonna be a star kid!
Appreciate the kind words!
100% agree... I've watched so many of these and they always seem so impractical. This one actually seems like I could implement some minor changes and really improve my system.
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Same. I've watched at least half a dozen different dust collection video, and this was by far the best.
+1 Love the mix of useful info and humor - the dry wit, in particular. Gotta have fun while doing what you love. 😀
Wow, that was a seriously great video. Perfect mix of info and humor, with pretty good editing too. Hope to see this channel grow.
Thanks!
yep i second that
Nice deadpan delivery.
Folks, this is how you make big bucks on U-tube
I'm setting up my shop and this video was SO helpful as an overview of dust in general. Not just one aspect - "this dust collector is my favorite" - but a video that covers all things dusty. Thanks so much!!
Good luck!
My dust collection of choice is an open garage door and my lungs. I'll check back in after a few years. Maybe.
I was amazed to discover concrete under my sawdust flooring that took me years to lay!
How your lungs doing after two years? 😅
@@bejibx Not too bad. I also put a large Bowflex and Treadmill in the garage which seem to collect all the dust that's created.
5:42 the skipping in the shop I laughed out loud... your videos are unique, informative and entertaining. Keep them coming!
Thank you Drew!
One of the best moments
Yup that's when I hit the Like
Wow. After watching a dozen or so dust removal/extraction videos, I was pleased to have it all in one. Then I could measure the depth of my pockets and the needs of a small shop area. This is a gem. Muchas gracias. The Force and the suck in one video.
Thanks Corey!
Never seen a shop so clean and dust free where actual work was produced.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video and I’ve been watching wood shop videos all day. I love the humor, but also the depth and details. Thanks a bunch!
In the process of setting up dust collection in my double garage shop, I really love the boom arm idea for my extractor and will likely copy your idea. Interesting setup for the ducting, I was thinking of running across the ceiling and down to the different stations but I'm having second thoughts now given I can get a smaller 2-stage and just move the hose from machine to machine, which I don't think would be to big a deal. Thanks for the tips, I think this video just saved me quite a few bucks!
Donated because I have learned several things from you. I love working w/ wood but due to family obligations and, well, my real job, time is limited as is available money to spend on tools (fancy or otherwise (almost always 'otherwise'). Your approach of get good stuff w/ out spending a good amount of coinage is why I will keep coming back to your channel.
Wow, thank you. Very generous of you
This channel is good enough and so concise that I often have to stop and rewind videos or abandon audio only and actually watch the video. Well done.
Thank you for this video, I'm glad I watched it. Your solutions and suggestions are awesome. I almost went down the dust collection system rabbit hole, but your methods are way less complicated, especially your boom arm.
We'll I suppose perhaps I was expecting a solution that was a similar solution that isn't a solution.
Thanks. I think.
Where to start...You're obviously highly intelligent, your content is unique, original, well researched, rich with valuable information and highly entertaining. You are going to go very far on RUclips. I've been woodworking for many years, and I learned something from every one of your videos. Thank you and BRAVO!
Thank you for the kind words Gerald. That means a lot!
What he said…. Hang on, you will stand out in time and the sponsors will be fighting over you.
I always find your videos enjoyable, but more important, they are loaded with well organized and easily understood information. Thanks very much.
That boom set up is just what I'm going to do for my router table. And I've used a box fan and furnace filter for years. It'll clear out a dust filled room in 10 minutes. Great video!
I tested 6 different small dust collectors. From the $139 Harbor Freight single stage all the way up to the $750 Rockler Dust-Right.
And the one I went with... the WEN DC3474. It was $200, and claimed to be 600cfm. However, the difference between it and the Rockler at 1350cfm was hardly noticeable. And definitely not worth the price difference.
With that said, this is the first time WEN has impressed me. I've have nothing but bad experiences with their products, so I was EXTREMELY skeptical. But, through Amazon, I had nothing to lose, as I could return it.
I also ditched the bag. I'm using a 55gal steel drum with dual 45° pvc fittings with the WEN motor/impeller attached to it. And then, I ran the outflow of the dust, through my wall and outside. But it doesn't expell almost any fine dust until the 55gal drum is just over half full. So it's filtering I'd assume 99.999% of dust, snd decreases by x % as the drum fills.
So, test out the DC3474... it's the 7.4amp model with induction motor... the 6.? Amp version is horrible. Do not get that one.
I've been thinking about a dust extractor installed in the corner of my garage as my side yard is starting to look like a woodchip waste dump site from my planer and your idea with the quck connect flex house definitely peaks my interest! I don't really have to worry about the fine dust settling anywhere and wear a mask when I'm sanding, but it'd definitely be nicer on the yard, throat, and eyes on days when the wind isn't blowing as strong.
This guy is a breath of fresh air, so glad I found your channel!
I like your edits and the humor you add to your videos.
A star wars fan that does woodworking, I'm so happy I found this channel.
glad you found it!
This answered a ton of questions, gave me great ideas, and solid recommendations. I’ll be revisiting this video, thanks!
Thank you!
THANK YOU!!! I am looking hard at how to clean up the disaster zone in my garage to make it a true shop. Dust collection has been plaguing my mind for quite a bit. This was fantastic!
I very much like the simple hook ups and cost savings. Perfect for small shops starting out. I'm definitely saving this video.
Thanks for all these wonderful tips on controlling dust. I use just about all of them although not as efficiently as your setup. Your video has given me some great ideas on how to improve my setup. For air filtration, I went with the $20 box fan idea. I started by attaching the filter with duct tape, But I found some cheap L brackets from Home Depot, screwed those to the back and now I can just slide the filter in and out. It does work because you can start to see dust collecting on the filter. I also like the idea of wearing a smock or bib so I don't carry wood dust and chips into the house. And I try to always shower after being in the shop all day. It definitely helps with my sinuses. Thanks again for putting this video together. Excellent job!
Thank you peewee Matt Kremona, you have blessed me with great knowledge on dust. I will definitely be building that dust collection arm similar to yours.
awesome - you will love it
Glad I found your channel! I’ve just bought a house with a dedicated workshop attached to the garage. it comes with a few tools like table saw/joiner, band saw and drill press included. But there’s so much more I’ll need and not sure where to begin. You channel is definitely helping!
You keep making quality videos like this one, the sponsors won't ignore you for long.
You need to keep these videos coming. I’m new into woodworking and the content you put out is very helpful especially to us beginners. Thanks brother
Glad you are finding them helpful!
@@Lincolnstww yeah man. Especially since I can’t afford 155,389 sheets of 3/4” baltic birch or just use my cnc to make parts and buy a bunch of aluminum extrusion to finish my work bench build 😆. Your stuff is much more approachable. Thanks again
@@moony1769 Thanks for noticing that. I try to be practical
Love all the Star Wars referenced images, and the shop appropriate names given to them. You got a new sub just for that. The humor was a bonus for me. Thanks!
Appreciate the sub
Super helpful man! I just started a small woodworking shop in my basement and wasn't sure exactly what I needed to keep the dust under control. Appreciate the info!
I really love watching this site. He is funny and smart. Very informative man
I'm glad to hear your channel is growing you definitely deserve it your videos are informative and fun to watch
Funny and well shot. I love the idea of adding an arm to my shop to make it SO much easier to add dust collection to my tools without dragging around the shop vac.
I understand why your channel is growing so quick I love the way you go about you videos and the quality of them
Thank you, I've been looking at options for my garage/workshop. This was VERY helpful :D
Love the humour too 😎
Glad it was helpful!
This was exactly what I needed to solve space and collection issues. That arm is going to be such a blessing.
Best tutorial, best part, your comedic parts are actually chuckle Worthy. Thanks for keeping it real
so personable, genuine, original, humorous, knowledgeable, and thorough. subbed.
definitely the most helpful video on dust collection i have seen. i've been struggling without much dust collection because i can't afford much and everyone kept saying if i didn't get all the 5-10k worth of it it would be like wasting money and do nothing... but this helped me realize i can do what i can and still get a lot out of it. thanks. now hopefully the HVLP one i want is on sale for labor day ;)
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing! I love the in-depth explanation of both systems. I have a very small woodshop in my garage and I've been thinking about dust collection. The boom arm is a great idea. I'm definitely going to copy that. :) Thanks for sharing!
Awesome thumbnail. It's honest, catches the eye, entices curiosity, and baits a click. Very, very well done.
Love the way you present your vids, to the point, informative and still with a sense of humor. Keep going. Cheers mate.
Very good point about just getting a better, more efficient sander vs a more elaborate dust collection system. If you can simply keep less dust from getting up in the air in the first place (vs. trying to deal with it once it's there) then that's a win, and definitely a factor to consider. Most of us don't think we need a 400 dollar sander (and many of us indeed do not) but some of those same cats wouldn't blink an eye before buying a dust collector worth just as much if not more. I'm just rocking the good old Dewalt cordless 5" sander for now but that actually gave me a lot to think about in terms of dust collection, as I'm in a small space like yourself.
I've also heard of people negatively pressurizing their space by having a fan which exhausts outdoors. That prevents dust in the shop from making it to other spaces in the house since air is always flowing in the direction of house to shop.
this is a pretty good idea! To make it work properly you'd need really tight control over areas of leak so you get a functional level of negative pressure and decent air circulation. Or just a big enough fan...
You nailed it! If you have an air tight room then this is a nice touch.
Definitely, the most informative-entertaining woodworking channel.
Thanks for the video. I came across a festool extractor for 120,on market place and grabbed it with no idea how I would use it in my small shop. I ended up adding the same cyclone you have mounted to the top of the extractor and honestly, I’m blown away on how well it works. It so light I can move it around my shop with no effort. I will say this, I tested the setup with my dewalt planer on full tilt and it didn’t miss a beat. I collected 95% and we all know you will never get 100% on a planer. Im surprised more people haven’t done this. It really works well. Oh, and there is no dust in the extractor 🤷♂️. Not sure how that happened but very happy it did.
If you're going to make a DIY air cleaner with a box fan and filter, I highly recommend a 2 inch or 4 inch thick filter. They have a lot more surface area so they can pass a lot more air volume and filter out more particles than a 1 inch thick filter
Make a Corsi-Rosenthal box (google it) to maximize filtration with a box fan, though it requires about 4-5 filters in total.
Good point but where to buy?
@@scottslotterbeck3796 if you can find a local HVAC service business. Most larger towns should have them but I bet Amazon or internet has some of the thicker filters.
I have always been a firm believer in “do you“. Let the trolls troll and let the haters hate but always do what works best for you. I work mostly on metal and stumbled upon your video through the RUclips algorithm. I was looking into setting up a small dust extraction system in a small breezeway that connects my basement to my garage and found your video arguably one of the best on RUclips. I’m really surprised you don’t have more subscribers and wish you nothing but luck in the future. Great video,keep them coming.
appreciate the kinds words and thoughtful comment!
Dear American Woodworker. Another great video. I just want to sat a general thank you for your very well explained, composed, edited, blah, videos. And they're actually amusing - so many others need to stop trying to be comedians. So big thank you from UK wannabe woodworker. Keep up the good work.
Excellent video on dust collection covering all the options, especially for the smaller shop and the boom arm idea is genius, well done and thanks for sharing, really useful video 🙏
- “Before I go into dust collection systems let me just clean the air......”
Some shop vacuums allow you to plug the suction house onto the outlet side to use as a blower instead of using a leaf blower
Thanks for the great volume of good information! Probably the best video I've seen on this subject. I've been woodworking for many years, and even tried (unsuccessfully) to get a high $ system (5hp, cyclone, dedicated spiral ductwork, etc) to work. Definitely going the look into developing a system , along with the important tips, like yours in my final shop configuration.
What a great idea the boom arm is! I especially like that it pivots. I work in 1 side of a 2 car garage and I always struggle with extension cords and dust collector hoses all over the floor. I may very well make one for my own shop. Thanks very much for this great idea and all your awesome, informative, and entertaining content.
Great video again, and congrats on surpassing 40K subs so quickly! Love the boom idea but I have a very low ceiling so the boom’s not an option. I use something as simple as a series of hooks in the ceiling (out the way) to which I can quickly attach the hose (just using bits of an old tyre inner tube). She may not look like much, but she sucks when it counts, kid.
Thats how I would do it with low ceilings! Smart move
Some good info in here, and reasonable reasons as to why you choose to use what you do. I come from a HVAC background, so I know how important good dust control is. That said, I'm in the process of setting up a new woodturning (and little flat work) workshop, and I see so many people with their dust control inside the shop, as you know it's the fine particulate that is more dangerous to our health, so I always suggest to either build in a small room to contain the dust collector if room is available, or to build an outside adjacent room for the machinery. And, with the room filter, duct it to the outside so the filtered air that can still contain particulate that the filter can't catch is forced outside of the workshop. And also remember to have an opening somewhere to allow fresh air in. Thanks for sharing. I've subbed, so I can learn more great ideas.
Thank you. That is an outstanding video. You are doing a great job, and have already improved my shop and saved me more than $2,200 in the last 60 days.
Adding the millionth comment: After 1/2 year of researching dust collection for small shop, I came back to this video and realized how perfect this was all along! I am starting with Festool extractor so I can adjust suction for sander. And pretty much copying you exactly! Lol Thanks again bro!!
It's the size of the dust particles that you really have to pay attention to. From my understanding the most difficult ones to filter are at the 3 microns level, lots of filters struggle with this.
My experience is that unless you go big… really big with a powerful dust extractor system, no matter what you do, you are still battling dust around the shop. The chop saw and tablesaw just spew it out. Router, spews it out. Ironically, I think my sander with vacuum attachment is one of the better non dust spewing tools. I just wear a great dust mask, and the best thing I ever bought for my shop was a larger wall mountable greenhouse fan. I am a hobby winter woodworker and burn scrap wood for heat so I simply cross vent my shop for about 3 minutes and it really does a great job clearing the air, and does not appreciably lower shop temp. Not a good solution for woodworking full time.
I've been watching woodworking videos for a very long time and yet RUclips has never showed me your channel until today. Finally, somebody that's smart and funny and not annoying. Subscribing.
Great video. First I watched and I immediately subscribed. Quality content and funny. Keep up the good work.
I’d love to see more detailed plans for your “shop boom”.
Sounds good
Yeah, me too!!
Ditto😁
When you were talking about air scrubbers at the end, I totally thought you were going to say the cheap diy way to do this is to... open the garage door. Haha.
Thats a great way to do it
I can’t believe anyone had harsh words for you. You are brilliant kind sir. Everything about your info and presentation are par with the best. Be proud. And know this with assurance. When someone is saying something hurtful, they are hurting bad inside or feeling so guilty they can’t stand themselves. Keep doing what you doing!
(I think that entire friendly rant was me speaking to me. As I’ve got most things ready and I am about to dive headfirst into selling porch signs and use social media, I have to remember that this is the truth!)
Seriously man, your future is exponentializing every time your present yourself. Keep rocking it and leading me into greatness! We’ve got this
Greatly appreciate the kind words Scotty. See you on the next one!
Nice one, that was really clear and great - you got all the basic physics right without ever talking about physics! Quality and good advice.
Great video, great explanations, so much useful info. Not sure why you aren’t sponsored yet. But I’m sure it’s going to happen. Love the boom arm, definitely using that idea.
Thanks Eddy
Just discovered your Channel today when it showed up on my feed. This dust collection video was very informative and helpful, thank you for providing it! I have the same or very similar Dewalt jobsite table saw. Very curious how you set up the dust collection port for that. I would like to do the same. Would love to see you do a video on setting up a dust collection port on a jobsite table saw. I'm subscribed! Looking forward to future videos! Especially your next one, about dust ports on job site table saws! ;-)
lol - there is sadly not a great solution for jobsite dust collection. You would need to enclose the body of the saw to effectively capture the dust. One of the downsides to jobsite and contractor style saws. Best thing you can do is use the blade guard and the dust port at the same time
Great information. I finally ignored all the data experts and ran 4 inch pvc to my machines. Small shop 12 x 18. Got rired of tripping over hoses etc. It works great. Mounted my Jet 2 hp unit to the wall of my basement shop and added a cyclone. What a difference. Now I have the central unit a dust extractor for sanding and a dedicated shop vac for my chop along with a air purifier. Its so ne=ice to have a clean shop.
Like one of the previous comments, I too had seen a lot of videos on Dust Collection. I have recently purchased a 2-stage system for a shop that I will be laying out in the extra garage of our newly purchased home. I was tired of my shop being full of dust and looking forward to a cleaner work environment. Like you, I have tried to use the Oneida Cyclone but it had a hard time keeping up, especially when planing. However, this video has helped me in properly directing the completion of my DC system. While I had already planned on how to plumb it, but not yet started due to contractors working on adding more electrical in the shop, your video has given me a new direction to think about. May not save me money in the long run but may help me direct the expenditures differently. Thank you, Roger
Awesome Roger glad you found it helpful and it gave you some ideas.
I'm solving all of these sawdust problems by simply using my tools outside. My larger saws are on tables with wheels. Plus, my garage stays clean!
Plus, sunshine and fresh air. Awesome!
I built outside on my patio for years! Its great other than breaking down
And skin cancer for free!
Thanks for the insight. We have a basement shop that gets occasional use - we tried 2-1/2" clear pipe powered by a shop vac. It does not suck, which in this case is a bad thing! I like your idea for the boom arm and the flexible hoses as an alternative to ducting. Thanks for the video!
Glad you liked it
I'm still rocking a shop vac with no attachments, so this is a very helpful video to know my next steps. Thanks!
Just trying to set up some dust extraction for my garage type sorkshop and this has helped me a lot. Thanks for doing it and thanks for sharing.
Leakage = Problems... not for me and my adult diapers
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Have you counted the amount of time you spend sitting on your table saw vs actually cutting on it? The answer may surprise you.
I was told it was an expensive bench when I purchased - works well
I, too, taped a good furnace filter to a box fan. I liked it so much, I made another for the house.
My wife was thrilled to see it in the living room, especially when guests come over!
Thanks for the video, your demeanor is by far my favorite of any woodworking channel on here. Keep up the great work!
Thanks 👍
As a newbie this is the video I have been searching for. Have watched a butt oad of vids on dust collection but none really pointed me in the right direction, so cheers.
Good advice. I plan to use my shop vac for small stuff and rig a squirrel cage for high volume stuff. All vented outside, or set up outside. This was helpful in many ways, so thanks!
You are definitely not just a dummy in a garage, you a very clever and funny guy. I am about to set up my new mini Oneida so am watching some videos to make it easier and ran across your video. Lots of good info, thank you!
I was going to reach out today about the dust in my shop and I stumbled on this vid. I've spent a lot of money on dust collection and I still end up with a layer of dust all over the shop. Watching lots of YT vids, everyone's shop is spotless and I thought I'd been doing something drastically wrong. I've identified some spots for improvement, but I'm relieved to hear that the =spotless= appearance is thanks to a leaf blower.
I find your vids very informative and easy to watch. I find your delivery to have the right balance humor and seriousness, neither of them are over the top. I just sub'd. Thank you and keep up the good work!
You’re channel is great. I have a small shop and am debating about what to do about dust collection. A few weeks ago I was at Rockler and asked them about that same hose you have for your miter and they gave me a shrug if it would work. Glad to know it will and I’ll go buy it. Hey @Rockler. This guy helps sell your products!
A good tip for dust cyclones with 5 gallon buckets is to use a square bucket. I bought a clear bucket from home depot for my cyclone and it kept collapsing in on itself. I finally got a square bucket that was used for cat litter and put the cyclone on that. It has yet to collapse in on itself.
STAR WARS and wood working?! You're my new best friend.
Love new best friends
The best overall explanation of dust collection I have seen on RUclips. Sometimes us little garage guys are overlooked. Thanks
Wow, thanks!
This boom arm is genuinely the best thing I have seen on RUclips. And I’ve seen things on youtube since 2006.
Thank you. I’m going to incorporate this idea. I’ve been really struggling to find a good solution. Didn’t like the idea of moving around everything
Really good video, thanks. I like your "just the facts" approach with a little humor sprinkled in.
Dude! I subbed because you shoot it straight. No BS. No pan handling for likes, subscribes, or pay-me-on. Thanks!
I'm so glad I watched your video. This is fantastic information. Thank you for sharing it. My shop is exactly the same size as yours and my current dust collection system is on a cart. Buy the one shown here is far superior. You rock!
This is the most comprehensive explanation about dust collection... I commit the big mistake of judge you and the beginning, but man what an incredible explanation hence why thanks so much!!!
Plrasantly surprised when this came into my feed. As I have spent way too much time watching videos on dust collection options. I know which way I am leaning, but really enjoyed this videos style and the boom arm for the festool extractor. Something my small shop can definitely take advantage of. Great content, and keep it up!