Note that the full saying is "a jack of all trades is a master of none, but is often times better than a master of one" and it seems really fitting here too
And a master of one gets me what? Audio thats super fucked? Ill take balanced everything or master of one thing. Thats always a superior product. Every products short comings drag it down. Mastering one thing is redundant when it can only be as rated as high as its worst quality.
I’ve had my Arya Stealth for two months now, and I agree with everything you say. I’ve thrown every genre I can at them, including games and movies with Dolby Atmos, and they make everything sound absolutely amazing.
@@CrackaSlapYa that's true, most reviewers says that the Aryas soundstage is almost as good or close to the 800S but I always wonder if this people got deaf but hearing so many headphones. The 800S have higher detail and the soundstage is so far superior not even a competition.
@@CrackaSlapYa I've been loving both rap and EDM through my Arya Stealths. I think its a coupling issue where the headphone isn't applying as much clamp force on your head as it can to get an ideal seal. When its properly seated on my head with a firm and tight clamp, everything becomes insanely detailed, spaced out and positionally accurate with a sense of physicality I don't get from most other headphones. The bass especially carries an immense weight to it, to my ears anyway.
I love my Arya stealth editions, I've been upgrading steadily for the past 5 years but they were the first time I didn't feel I was missing out on anything. It's nice to see other people feel the same way.
@@CrackaSlapYa I sent in my sundara's to hifiman and they offered me a discount on the HE1000se. I didn't get to audition the 1000v2s or the arya stealths tho. Just jumped straight past them to the 1000se. I'm happy with them.
Oof. That’s a glowing review. I’ve been thinking I need to get my hands on one since they came out and that continues to be the message as more people do. Great review as always. Cheers!
Really happy with my Arya Stealth. I bought after you said that you loved them. A nice addition to my collection and my first planar. Been using the K9 Pro AKM to drive them (also bought after your recommendation). Very nice pairing. Would love to see you review the HE1000se and hear your thoughts on the differences and elevation in sound quality for the price jump. 🤔 Thanks for the great review. Definitely enjoy your reviews and also how succinct you are. It's nice not having to set aside a half hour or more to get the 411 on the latest gear. 🙂
@@black_n5492 The K9 AKM with the Arya Stealth is a great match. In fact all my headphones sound fantastic. I also have Sennheiser HD800S, 660S, 560S, and 6XX. For it's price point it's achieving and competing strongly against amps that cost much more. I also have a Burson Conductor GT that is more than triple the cost. Yes it does sound better than the K9 but it's pretty amazing how good the K9 sounds next to it. I still highly recommend the K9 Pro AKM to anyone looking for the next level from entry level amps. I've never heard the ESS version but I've read the difference is not night and day with most saying AKM is more musical and the ESS is more analytical.
Never thought I'd see you recommend an Arya this much considering your view of the older revisions haha. I'm still using my Arya v2 which shares head time with my HD800S, but if I ever need to replace me Arya v2, I'd consider giving the Arya Stealth a chance~
Bought them, no regrets. They sound amazing sitting on my couch or bed plugged into the Hugo 2/2go combo…excellent recommendation, first Hifiman can I’m not returning lol
I 100% agree with your review DMS. I love my Arya Stealth. Good recorded audio sounds amazing with them, often larger than life. Comfort is insanely good. For poor recordings I switch back to my HD660s, which are great in hiding flaws compared to the Arya ...
I have a pair of 660’s too and the Stealth msg will be delivered in two day. Cannot wait. I really like the 660’s but the clamp force is just too much for me and I usually use my Audio Quest NightOwls as they are incredibly comfortable. But they need good quality music also. Was hoping I could sell the 660’s to help the sting of £1200 but I may need to keep them if the Aryas need good recordings too. Besides a collection of 4 completely different headphones has its appeal.
It's a fantastic headphone, one which works really well in every scenario--music, movies, gaming. It's the perfect complement to my Verite Closed, which I prefer for pure music listening, but the Arya is the go-to for other tasks.
I tried the arya stealth at the same time I was trying hd800S and focal clear as well for about 2 months. I came to the same conclusion that the arya were pretty solid for basically every genre. The reason I ended up returning them and keeping the clear / hd800s because for every single genre my preferred headphone was either the hd800s or the clear. I tried them in 1 week rotations, and I never found myself missing the arya when I was using either of the other two. Even with the Arya being more well rounded, if I had to keep just one headphone I'd go with the hd800s on a nice tube amp. The idea of a perfectly well rounded headphone always sounds good to me in theory, but in practice I usually don't end up reaching for the all rounder when I'm in the mood to listen to music.
Recently got the aeon noire and love them. Next headphones will probably be the Arya stealth for more openness. After that the only real upgrade would be DCA stealth and susvara but I’m happy for now :D
yeah just went to canjam, tried c flow 1.1, stealth, lcd xc . noire is super good value.xc too heavy for marginal technicalities improvement but not in tuning, c flow is better but not portable, stealth is the openest feeling closed back i ever tried it feels weird.
@@krucacing they are in fact so good that I might get rid of my DT1990 because I just don’t use them anymore. Both have about equal sized sound stage, the Aeon are more resolving and have better bass and most other technicalities are also better
I've only had them for a week, so still in that Honeymoon phase but they're going to make me sell off most of what I've collected. The only fault I can see in Arya Stealth is the fit if you have a small head. It's the most well balanced headphone I've heard. It plays nice with every genre I've tried and doesn't seem to overemphasize poorer recordings. I wanted to try and grab the new ZMF Atrium but after doing my research it seemed like the Arya v3 would just fit my tastes better and hot damn, it seems like I finally hit a bullseye for an open back.
@@humm6155 ignoring entry level Hi-Fi stuff I own, my main line up is a t60rp Argon, a Campfire Cascade, a Focal Radiance, a ZMF Eikon, an Arya Stealth, and a Meze Empyrean.
Well great to know I did a good purchase :3 I also really really like it. I owned the LCD-X before the Arya stealth and thought it was zero chance i'd ever leave my LCD-X, but look at me now. Haven't gone back to my LCD-X in many months now. Arya stealth is just too damn good.
This is how I feel about the edition xs. It literally ticks every box for me. The build could be better but it’s still fine, plus they’re comfy and light. They sound phenomenal too. Bang for buck I don’t think it can be beaten
Buy Arya Stealth and you’ll get all rounder and save lot money for dac and amps, they can sound pretty well plugged in with nearly every device. Astonishing.
Starting to see a shared taste in preference. I've had the Arya Stealth since Josh V reviewed them. I just picked up a Radiance because I wanted a high end Focal sound closed back. It's hard to go from the Arya to the Radiance but such a big difference anyway. I'm loving both and couldn't agree more on the Arya. I'm powering mine with a Jotunheim2 and it pairs very well!
Hey I'm planning to get a similar collection as yours. I have a pair of focal celestee and I'm thinking to get a pair of arya stealth with a schiit dac/amp stack. Do you think magnius + modius will serve the arya well?
@@jimmiefu8998 based off of what I've read but not heard, yes. I almost got the magnius but splurged a bit more for the Jotunheim 2. I think you would be perfectly happy with the Magnius. Modius for sure since I own that one!
@@Skeeb23 I might go with the Asgard amp just because it has a silver option 😂, but what's the difference between a modular amp (asgard, jotunheim) and a balanced amp (Magnus)? Btw thx for reply :D
@@jimmiefu8998 The Asgard and Jotunheim have an expansion slot for an internal DAC or phono stage. If you want a DAC/amp in one unit you can get the Asgard or Jotunheim. They can also be used with an external DAC too. I have both the Magnius/Modius and a Bifrost/Jotunheim stack with Focal Clears and HD6xx. I have only had the Bifrost for a few days and still am trying to figure things out. My early impressions is there isn't a huge leap going with the more expensive combo. I don't think I have "golden ears" someone else might be able to better explain the differences in sound betwen the Magnius/Modius and the Bifrost/Jotunheim.
They are a great headphone and I still want them, I was deciding between the OG Clear and the Arya Stealth, and ultimately the OG Clear when balanced won out for me. The OG Clear also sounds amazing on portable sources like the MOJO whilst having the ability to scale up on higher end gear.
You did a quit snippet on the Edition XS at the beginning of the video, but are there any plans for a full review of it in the near future? Many reviewers have been recommending it and would love to hear your opinion on it as well
I own XS for about a month. I would be happy to see this review too :) I don't really understand theese comfort complains. For me there are very comfortable. At first I thought pads are too stiff but actually they are fine. I am thinking about new pads some day but I am afraid they will harm the sound.
The XS sounds great and are very confortable, the only problem I have is when you move they are a bit loose. But the reverse side is they have almost no clamping force witch is very comfortable for me when I am still. The Arya sound probably better, but how much... 5% ? You can buy the first version of focal clear AND the XS for the same money you'll spend on the Arya... or like me, XS + Mojo 2, a killer match with fantastic eq for adjusting those recording of the 70s that lack bass or lower the treble on very bright pop recording. Very handy for famous classical recording that don't sound so well either...
Totally agree, love my Arya Stealths, im using them with a Burson Soloist 3XP amp and Schiit Bifrost 2 Dac which sounds awesome but I was wondering if you have used a tube pre-amp with your Aryas yet ? Really am very interested to hear your thoughts on what a bit of tube flavour could do to these , cheers mate
Heavily considering these, especially with black Friday coming up. Think a Fulla 2 would be able to provide a good experience or should I invest in more power beforehand?
Hifiman online store often has this HP for open box sale price of, $1,299. Mine looks and sounds like brand new. A close second for me are my HE6se V2 and LCD X 2021. Cheers bro!
DMS if you like the HD6XX vocal intimacy, give the HE1000V2 a try, when I compared to Susvara and Arya V3 Stealth, I ended preferring the HE1000V2 as an alternative to both. I still own my Susvara though, got them used for a damn good price.
2:06 felt a bit weird to watch the b-roll footage of you adjusting the headband with the Sound of you doing the same during a-roll but not matching what was on screen
Loved the video. I have a brain so I understand you're not shilling. It is just that good. How does the bass perform in terms of impact, say compared to a Audeze 2 classic?
I just ordered the edition XS and looking forward to it. I had a choice in getting these headphones, and decided to rather get the following for the same price. Hifiman Edition XS Bluesound Node (streamer for my speakers) Moondrop Variations IEMs
I got the XS and the mojo 2 for less then the Arya :) very good match in my opinion. I'll be curious to see how DMS mesure the difference between XS and Arya... 5%?
Not sure if there's a full video in it, but as a 6XX fan had you considered picking up ZMF's new sennheiser pads? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on them. In fact, maybe there would be a full vid's worth if you picked up the beyerdynamic pads too. I'd be super interested to see how they measure on the DT1990
So I finally got a source where I can listen to planar headphones--that being the awesome Cayin N8ii Tube DAP. That said, I pulled out my Hifiman X v2's and experienced for the first time when a planar could really do (previous source with an LG V phone which could not sufficiently drive planar). I heard this is quite an improvement on even those but is it true it only comes with a 6.5" cable...nothing in the box for 3.5 or balanced? Did you use the stock cable since you were hooking it into a desktop setup? I also have the coveted Final Audio Sonorous X with some kind of silver litz balanced cable that came with it...as well as Pioneer's SE-Monitor5 closed backs... both of which I could sell at a premium. I'm sure the Arya would sound great with the different mode options on that DAP.
not gonna be cliché and think josh put you up to this, after all he didn’t give the stealth Arya the respect you just did nor anything like he did the og Aryas, which are one of the hardest 🎧 to find used much less new, they are ghosts….Now you give me confidence to buy these stealths, i bought the k9 pro after you & z pretty much told me to so i look forward to this pairing. Arya was the first high end headphone (or $350+) i wanted (not just because i named my amazing 😺 Arya 6 yrs ago for the best character on Thrones) but then discovered ZMF. Arya will be the one non ZMF cans i will buy for now but you offer no link so do you recommend where i buy them today? anyone have em under $1,599? apos includes a cable so leaning towards them…as always, thanks ✌🏼
Just noticed this video today. I got the Arya Stealths a couple weeks ago after receiving an email sale notification and feel validated by DMS's review. :D My immediate reaction upon putting them on, as I bought them based solely based on reputation and strength of reviews for the previous iterations, was that they're absolutely worth the money. For context, I listen to a lot of EDM (all sorts), various forms of rock (prog, alt, classic), and some folk and classical. Other headphones I own include the Focal Elex, Sony MDR-Z7M2, Sony MDR-CD1700, HIFIman Sundara, Sennheiser HD560S, HD58x, three iterations of the Fostex TR50p Mk3 (stock, Dekoni Blue, and Modhouse balanced), Meze 99 Noirs, and a few others, all distributed throughout the house and office and home office and connected to various amps. And as a matter of preference, I tend to prefer fun to analytical headphones as I listen to enjoy rather than to create, produce, or review music. FWIW, the only headphones I've ever owned that I really disliked and sold are the Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pros (80 Ohm version) - the pronounced V-shaped response just irritated me to no end. I didn't even want to keep them as any sort of reference. (EDIT - July 5, 2022 - Got some DT990 600 ohm cans just over a week ago and I find I like them quite a lot more than the 80 ohm version. Impressions thus far: the bass isn't flabby nor the highs ice-pick bright - feels much more balanced than the 80 ohm version; wish I still had the 80 ohm cans for a direct comparison, but I am pretty confident in this read given how much I disliked the 80 ohm version) Anyway, the Arya's really impressed me right out of the box, and the last time I was so enthused with a set of transducers was when I got my Moondrop Blessing 2:Dusk IEMs last year. As the Arya has replaced my Sundaras at my primary listening location, the most obvious difference & improvement is the bass extension and the wider soundstage. Is the Arya worth 3 or 4 x the cost of the Sundara? That's a matter of personal preference, but for me the answer is a definite yes.
Edition XS is very comfortable personally for me, much more than Sundara. Build quality is typical Hifiman, lightweight not rugged and very much similar to that of Hifiman Ananda (except headband difference). For an open back headphone tied to a desk, it has good build quality.
@@soulfulfool I am speaking from experience. I have used a Hifiman Sundara for an year without any issues. Then sold it for a good price to buy the XS However don't let me stop you from your hate campaign.....
I´ve got the Arya Stealth since a few days and i couln´t be happier! Keep in mind the headphone needs a few hours to "burn in" in the beginning it was a bit sharp but now perfect!
I own Arya V2, Arya Stealth and HE1000SE . For me , the magic headphone you are talking about, is HE1000SE, which sounds, for me, like a Stealth on steroids . Though Arya Stealth is an amazing headphone .
@@Ezees23 for me, from all headphones i have listened until now, H1kSE is the only high tier headphone that trully deserves the price . And they are better than any other headphone at their price, and for me, even above. I am talking about headphones alone, with a decent amplification. With super-ultra very expensive amplification , Susvara MIGHT take the cake ... For some people it doesn't , even like this. Also, for the fact that it can sound so amazing even from a 150 bucks portable dac/amp, makes it the best choice by far . But, as DMS is always saying, it is my opinion. You need to listen to them first .
What DEKONI EARPAD would you recommend for the Hifiman Arya Stealth? Or would you keep the original pads on it? I use it with a Yulong DA10 DSC Headphone amp. What do you think of that combo?
I know you work for Abyss, so perhaps you’re reluctant to say, but how do these stack up against the new Diana TC, which other reviewers have named the best headphone, ever?
Hi DMS, thx for your informative and ojective review. ... looked at your test videos, BUT i didn't found a product from DENON ... i would really like to hear your impressions/thoughts about, e.g. an "ah d9200". best regards, u.
@DMS you sound like a good one to ask this to as I know you love both and you are a young cat and likely game , is Arya Stealth comparable or better than HD 800s for gaming? Specifically footsteps and gunfire placement.
I really wanted to love this headphone, but after a few weeks I had to return it. The main issue is that the upper mid range/low treble was a little hot to me. I found that I personally needed more warmer sounding headphone. Pros were the great detail and speed of everything. Some songs just sounded insane to listen to. Used on a Topping A/D30 pro stack. The pads also hurt my jaw (Mildly big head).
The A30/D30 Pro stack may have been the actual culprit along with not burning them in. There's a reason Arya owners take the time to play in/burn in their cans and pair them with Class A discrete amps - the treble smooths out after about ~75hrs and the Class A amps have better timbre and less annoyingly bright trebles. It's what I did and I'm glad I gave them time - they're revealing yet smooth at the same time.
That stack is more than likely the main reason. I had the A90 with the Arya v2s and it was piercing yet lackluster. Sent it back and bought a used Gustard H20 - Class A discrete FTW!!!
@@Ezees23 I just got my Arya stealth today and immediately noticed exact same issue as @jimmyfrancis9693 did above. I am going to wait to make sure I get over the ~75hrs break in before I decide to return it. Interesting enough, I felt the same about the 560S which got better every time I listened to them. I am curious, which amp are you using?
Unfortunately not many games have good audio. A good headphone can really expose bad microphones and low quality background music. E.g. when I game on my Stax, they add more distraction than immersion. With that much money I'd first invest in a good display. But after that, cans like the HD800s or the Arya Stealth can for sure make a big difference with how much soundstage they provide. Try them if you have the budget.
As cious li said, good headphones reveal bad microphones or expose bad recording, but you really don't need to go this high up in headphones just for gaming, IMO something with a warm/v shaped sound signature with decent staging works best for games
Have you tried the Hifiman HE6se v2? It has some build flaws that the Arya does not have, but I've heard that many people have fixed those with mods and chose it over the Arya because they find it more enjoyable, mostly because of the top end I think? Considering that the HE6se is often (almost always tbh) on sale at 600$ though, if it comes even close to the Arya it would be an awesome buy and I would love to hear your thoughts on it!
How much money and how much time are you going to devote to mod the HE6se v2, while not knowing if you're getting it right??? Then to do that and still not equal the Arya in some other areas. That's the question one needs to ask, unless you just like DIYing...
i really like my aria stealths, on my first listen my immediate reaction was they are lifeless honestly, its so flat, it doesn't lend itself well to some genres where there needs to be a bit more body and soul to the music, reggae being the perfect example where its focus is on mid bass beats, the arya v3 does it but its very much not the focus and comes across a little too clinical. what is amazing though is you soon come to realize they are not banging out a bassline because - the music isn't banging out a bassline, its just lesser quality headphones would bloat the mid bass where the arya is far more focused, far faster and clean, when called for the bass hits pretty hard and fast but more crucially it extends very well so nothing gets lost or does not come through strong enough, the first time i listened to ''lil john get low'' i realized how punchy they can be when the question is asked. everything else performs as you would expect, flat mids with a hint of brightness in the upper mids and a treble that's quite bright but not painfully so, its basically ''just right''. i game a lot with the headset aswell and use a chord mojo 2 and find it does an excellent job with imaging and soundstage, both of which become even more apparent when the focus is on sounds like distant gunfire, you can pick out direction and distance really well. my only downside would be they don't respond that well to EQ, boosting the low end at all can lead to a loss of control and some distortion at high volume (really high though), there's not much headroom i find between sounding absolutely amazing and then pushing it a bit too far quickly realizing i should knock it back a few clicks, single driver woes i guess, not that experienced with larger headphones in general but multi driver IEM's can naturally handle complexity very loudly a bit better as might be expected. my only other comparisons would be DT1990 pro, a handful of ''gaming headsets'' and plenty of IEM's, 64 U12T, sony ier m9, just to name a few in recent months.
As far as EQ goes, that isn't the Arya's fault at all - they take EQ like a champ. That "falling apart" is more of an expression of the amp in your chain - when it begins to run out of power. When you boost the bass it requires much more power (current actually) from the amp and when that current isn't able to be produced, the amp produces more distortion and loses control of the driver - making it "fall apart". Put them on a substantially more powerful amp and pump up the bass all you want - they will only get more bass and more controlled (I did this with my bypassed Emotiva A-100 (~12W @ 32 ohms) - my jaw literally dropped and I still refer back to that sense of supreme "effortlessness").
The V2 can be a bit much if you are treble sensitive, but you get a slightly wider and taller soundstage than the Stealth. Would check the headfi Arya thread, lotta V2 to Stealth converts
Hi I have a question on driving this headphone. Do you think that a DAP could drive it well? Mine has a 6.2 Vrms and 980 mW@ 32ohm and 128 mW@300ohm on the balanced ouput. Could it be fine? thanks in advance
I bought both the Hemp and the 325x by your recommendation and LOVED both, however I liked the Hemp just a tiny bit more! How does Soundstage compare between the Arya stealth and the hemps with geekria G pads??
@@bluemonstrosity259 I bought the Arya stealth not long after posting this comment. Sound quality is exactly at the level I expected, but my question was about the Soundstage. I found that while the hemps can be slightly wider to the sides at times, they don't have depth projection toward the front at all. The shape of the Soundstage feels like having a cone on each side where all the sound happens. The Arya's Soundstage is generally bigger, and it has the shape of a tiara or an Aztec penacho (weird description but it's accurate) , things feel higher up on your head and have height and depth. Hemps can produce closer and further sounds on either side, but the Aryas always feel distant.
Note that the full saying is "a jack of all trades is a master of none, but is often times better than a master of one" and it seems really fitting here too
i think this is a good entry HP into highend headfi..... find out what you like or lacking then search for another HP that fills in the gap
Bruce Lee be like press X to doubt
And a master of one gets me what? Audio thats super fucked? Ill take balanced everything or master of one thing. Thats always a superior product. Every products short comings drag it down. Mastering one thing is redundant when it can only be as rated as high as its worst quality.
@@ACE112ACE112 Bruce Lee was an actor
I've always enjoyed saying Jack of all trades and master of some lol
Build and Comfort - 1:38
Subjective Sound - 3:03
Objective sound - 5:25
Amplification - 7:57
Final Gushing - 8:38
Thx man
Don’t forget the creepy sentient Frequency Response head 5:28
Jack of all trades, master of none but better than a master of one
Don't forget the last most important part
I’ve had my Arya Stealth for two months now, and I agree with everything you say. I’ve thrown every genre I can at them, including games and movies with Dolby Atmos, and they make everything sound absolutely amazing.
What I need to know is Arya Stealth comparable or better than HD 800s in gaming? Specifically footsteps and gunfire placement.
@@CrackaSlapYa not even close. The 800S are the God of gaming headphones
@@freddycely9580 yeah but they are pretty shit for EDM and rap. Damn nice for opera, classical, and gaming but alas i only fux with one of those 3.
@@CrackaSlapYa that's true, most reviewers says that the Aryas soundstage is almost as good or close to the 800S but I always wonder if this people got deaf but hearing so many headphones. The 800S have higher detail and the soundstage is so far superior not even a competition.
@@CrackaSlapYa I've been loving both rap and EDM through my Arya Stealths. I think its a coupling issue where the headphone isn't applying as much clamp force on your head as it can to get an ideal seal. When its properly seated on my head with a firm and tight clamp, everything becomes insanely detailed, spaced out and positionally accurate with a sense of physicality I don't get from most other headphones. The bass especially carries an immense weight to it, to my ears anyway.
great 👍. your reviews are no nonsense. free of lengthy meaninless blandering and always very honest. thank you
Your video production is crazy good.
I love my Arya stealth editions, I've been upgrading steadily for the past 5 years but they were the first time I didn't feel I was missing out on anything. It's nice to see other people feel the same way.
have you tried the he1000 v2?
@@OG-cl9br im trying to decide between the two right now.
@@CrackaSlapYa I sent in my sundara's to hifiman and they offered me a discount on the HE1000se. I didn't get to audition the 1000v2s or the arya stealths tho. Just jumped straight past them to the 1000se. I'm happy with them.
@@OG-cl9br i bet! enjoy. What kind of discount did they give u?
@@CrackaSlapYa the value of the sundaras
Oof. That’s a glowing review. I’ve been thinking I need to get my hands on one since they came out and that continues to be the message as more people do.
Great review as always. Cheers!
Really happy with my Arya Stealth. I bought after you said that you loved them. A nice addition to my collection and my first planar. Been using the K9 Pro AKM to drive them (also bought after your recommendation). Very nice pairing. Would love to see you review the HE1000se and hear your thoughts on the differences and elevation in sound quality for the price jump. 🤔 Thanks for the great review. Definitely enjoy your reviews and also how succinct you are. It's nice not having to set aside a half hour or more to get the 411 on the latest gear. 🙂
I also got the K9 AKM and love it with my Focal Elex. How do you still find this combo 9 months later? I'm planning on getting the Arya stealth
@@black_n5492 The K9 AKM with the Arya Stealth is a great match. In fact all my headphones sound fantastic. I also have Sennheiser HD800S, 660S, 560S, and 6XX. For it's price point it's achieving and competing strongly against amps that cost much more. I also have a Burson Conductor GT that is more than triple the cost. Yes it does sound better than the K9 but it's pretty amazing how good the K9 sounds next to it. I still highly recommend the K9 Pro AKM to anyone looking for the next level from entry level amps. I've never heard the ESS version but I've read the difference is not night and day with most saying AKM is more musical and the ESS is more analytical.
Cant wait for your Arya Organic review
I have the stealth and its performance is really simply amazing. I just love it so much.
Never thought I'd see you recommend an Arya this much considering your view of the older revisions haha. I'm still using my Arya v2 which shares head time with my HD800S, but if I ever need to replace me Arya v2, I'd consider giving the Arya Stealth a chance~
Such a sick room. Well done, sir.
Bought them, no regrets. They sound amazing sitting on my couch or bed plugged into the Hugo 2/2go combo…excellent recommendation, first Hifiman can I’m not returning lol
I 100% agree with your review DMS. I love my Arya Stealth. Good recorded audio sounds amazing with them, often larger than life. Comfort is insanely good. For poor recordings I switch back to my HD660s, which are great in hiding flaws compared to the Arya ...
I have a pair of 660’s too and the Stealth msg will be delivered in two day. Cannot wait.
I really like the 660’s but the clamp force is just too much for me and I usually use my Audio Quest NightOwls as they are incredibly comfortable. But they need good quality music also.
Was hoping I could sell the 660’s to help the sting of £1200 but I may need to keep them if the Aryas need good recordings too.
Besides a collection of 4 completely different headphones has its appeal.
It's a fantastic headphone, one which works really well in every scenario--music, movies, gaming. It's the perfect complement to my Verite Closed, which I prefer for pure music listening, but the Arya is the go-to for other tasks.
The sound the grill made when you flicked it brought me joy
I tried the arya stealth at the same time I was trying hd800S and focal clear as well for about 2 months. I came to the same conclusion that the arya were pretty solid for basically every genre. The reason I ended up returning them and keeping the clear / hd800s because for every single genre my preferred headphone was either the hd800s or the clear. I tried them in 1 week rotations, and I never found myself missing the arya when I was using either of the other two.
Even with the Arya being more well rounded, if I had to keep just one headphone I'd go with the hd800s on a nice tube amp. The idea of a perfectly well rounded headphone always sounds good to me in theory, but in practice I usually don't end up reaching for the all rounder when I'm in the mood to listen to music.
What if you don't have the clear or the hd800s? Arya stealth still good?
What genre bud
@@Leo-yn5fx Absolutely, the arya stealth are very good
Recently got the aeon noire and love them. Next headphones will probably be the Arya stealth for more openness. After that the only real upgrade would be DCA stealth and susvara but I’m happy for now :D
Noire and Arya stealth is a pretty killer endgame combo.
yeah just went to canjam, tried c flow 1.1, stealth, lcd xc . noire is super good value.xc too heavy for marginal technicalities improvement but not in tuning, c flow is better but not portable, stealth is the openest feeling closed back i ever tried it feels weird.
@@krucacing they are in fact so good that I might get rid of my DT1990 because I just don’t use them anymore. Both have about equal sized sound stage, the Aeon are more resolving and have better bass and most other technicalities are also better
Great review. Straight talk about a really good headphone.
Great video! 💞
great review always love watching your honest opinions, would this be good for gaming or would be better off buying hd800s
I've only had them for a week, so still in that Honeymoon phase but they're going to make me sell off most of what I've collected. The only fault I can see in Arya Stealth is the fit if you have a small head. It's the most well balanced headphone I've heard. It plays nice with every genre I've tried and doesn't seem to overemphasize poorer recordings. I wanted to try and grab the new ZMF Atrium but after doing my research it seemed like the Arya v3 would just fit my tastes better and hot damn, it seems like I finally hit a bullseye for an open back.
@@humm6155 ignoring entry level Hi-Fi stuff I own, my main line up is a t60rp Argon, a Campfire Cascade, a Focal Radiance, a ZMF Eikon, an Arya Stealth, and a Meze Empyrean.
Great review! LcdX 2021 review please 🙏
0:14....ughhhh, your mechanical keyboard sounds....sooo tempting !
I love my Arya Stealth. They are truly well balanced as you say. A jack of all trades ...
Great review!
I'm saving up for them right now, Arya Stealth are the best headphones I ever heard.
Well great to know I did a good purchase :3 I also really really like it. I owned the LCD-X before the Arya stealth and thought it was zero chance i'd ever leave my LCD-X, but look at me now. Haven't gone back to my LCD-X in many months now. Arya stealth is just too damn good.
Good review I'll buy it someday
This is how I feel about the edition xs. It literally ticks every box for me. The build could be better but it’s still fine, plus they’re comfy and light. They sound phenomenal too. Bang for buck I don’t think it can be beaten
I think the Ananda Stealth bests it but I do think hifiman rules the 300-700 range
@@nickapalooza861 they’re considerably more expensive for me so I’d rather have the xs and save a fair few quid
@@millenwagon understandable, though right now in the US they are only 50 more than the XS. Don't know about other places
@@nickapalooza861 wow! £200/$250 more in the uk, crazy how the prices vary!
Love them my first real high end headphone!Debating if a topping a90 or a singxer would be a good amp upgrade from my smsl sp200
Buy Arya Stealth and you’ll get all rounder and save lot money for dac and amps, they can sound pretty well plugged in with nearly every device. Astonishing.
lovely vid - we need that updated master google sheet ranking!
I'm still working on a website to replace the google sheet, slowly but surely
@@DMS3TV amazing, appreciate all the work 🙌
this is the headphone to compliment my lcd x 2021 revision and the dt 1990 pros.
I think this will be my next headphone. It was toss up between these and the Sennheiser 800s, but not sure how I'd like the treble on those.
Was hesitant to watch a review straight after purchasing these things but that didn't hurt at all
Starting to see a shared taste in preference. I've had the Arya Stealth since Josh V reviewed them. I just picked up a Radiance because I wanted a high end Focal sound closed back. It's hard to go from the Arya to the Radiance but such a big difference anyway. I'm loving both and couldn't agree more on the Arya. I'm powering mine with a Jotunheim2 and it pairs very well!
Hey I'm planning to get a similar collection as yours. I have a pair of focal celestee and I'm thinking to get a pair of arya stealth with a schiit dac/amp stack. Do you think magnius + modius will serve the arya well?
@@jimmiefu8998 based off of what I've read but not heard, yes. I almost got the magnius but splurged a bit more for the Jotunheim 2. I think you would be perfectly happy with the Magnius. Modius for sure since I own that one!
@@Skeeb23 I might go with the Asgard amp just because it has a silver option 😂, but what's the difference between a modular amp (asgard, jotunheim) and a balanced amp (Magnus)? Btw thx for reply :D
@@jimmiefu8998 The Asgard and Jotunheim have an expansion slot for an internal DAC or phono stage. If you want a DAC/amp in one unit you can get the Asgard or Jotunheim. They can also be used with an external DAC too. I have both the Magnius/Modius and a Bifrost/Jotunheim stack with Focal Clears and HD6xx. I have only had the Bifrost for a few days and still am trying to figure things out. My early impressions is there isn't a huge leap going with the more expensive combo. I don't think I have "golden ears" someone else might be able to better explain the differences in sound betwen the Magnius/Modius and the Bifrost/Jotunheim.
They are a great headphone and I still want them, I was deciding between the OG Clear and the Arya Stealth, and ultimately the OG Clear when balanced won out for me. The OG Clear also sounds amazing on portable sources like the MOJO whilst having the ability to scale up on higher end gear.
As an update, DMS posted a video about how he bought the Clears. You have a great pair of headphones for sure.
The LSA HP2 (based on a Kennerton Gjallarhorn) is also a great "jack of all trade" phone. Sold by Underwood Hifi.
You did a quit snippet on the Edition XS at the beginning of the video, but are there any plans for a full review of it in the near future? Many reviewers have been recommending it and would love to hear your opinion on it as well
Hé already said he’d do a review on them
I own XS for about a month. I would be happy to see this review too :) I don't really understand theese comfort complains. For me there are very comfortable. At first I thought pads are too stiff but actually they are fine. I am thinking about new pads some day but I am afraid they will harm the sound.
@@dreamstormPL You have to keep in mind that comfort is very subjective and DMS is a huge fan of suspension straps for a headband.
The XS sounds great and are very confortable, the only problem I have is when you move they are a bit loose. But the reverse side is they have almost no clamping force witch is very comfortable for me when I am still. The Arya sound probably better, but how much... 5% ? You can buy the first version of focal clear AND the XS for the same money you'll spend on the Arya... or like me, XS + Mojo 2, a killer match with fantastic eq for adjusting those recording of the 70s that lack bass or lower the treble on very bright pop recording. Very handy for famous classical recording that don't sound so well either...
Totally agree, love my Arya Stealths, im using them with a Burson Soloist 3XP amp and Schiit Bifrost 2 Dac which sounds awesome but I was wondering if you have used a tube pre-amp with your Aryas yet ? Really am very interested to hear your thoughts on what a bit of tube flavour could do to these , cheers mate
Did you add a tube preamp to your chain yet?
5:26 that jumpscare got me really good
Had mine for a month and I agree.
My daily driver is a pair of headphones that flew under the radar of the most trusted (or popular) reviewers, the Cleer Next.
Heavily considering these, especially with black Friday coming up. Think a Fulla 2 would be able to provide a good experience or should I invest in more power beforehand?
Jack of all trades, master of none... Isn't that exactly what you said about the Focal Clear?
Hifiman online store often has this HP for open box sale price of, $1,299. Mine looks and sounds like brand new. A close second for me are my HE6se V2 and LCD X 2021. Cheers bro!
Just ordered this. Waiting eagerly like a kid with Christmas on the way.
@@ballswan Have fun, brother!
DMS if you like the HD6XX vocal intimacy, give the HE1000V2 a try, when I compared to Susvara and Arya V3 Stealth, I ended preferring the HE1000V2 as an alternative to both. I still own my Susvara though, got them used for a damn good price.
how about susvara vs he1000v2? since both are intimate and good for jpop vokal
He1000v2 are god tier 🔥🚀❤️🔥
The amp for those are ifi audio pro ican signature. Now that what i call a homerun!
2:06 felt a bit weird to watch the b-roll footage of you adjusting the headband with the Sound of you doing the same during a-roll but not matching what was on screen
Loved the video. I have a brain so I understand you're not shilling. It is just that good. How does the bass perform in terms of impact, say compared to a Audeze 2 classic?
this video is going to get me in trouble isnt it
Just got the Edition XS and am loving the sound. Would love to hear how it compares to the Arya Stealth..
I just ordered the edition XS and looking forward to it.
I had a choice in getting these headphones, and decided to rather get the following for the same price.
Hifiman Edition XS
Bluesound Node (streamer for my speakers)
Moondrop Variations IEMs
I got the XS and the mojo 2 for less then the Arya :) very good match in my opinion. I'll be curious to see how DMS mesure the difference between XS and Arya... 5%?
You mentioned the Edition XS, could you do a review of that? That'd be interesting.
I strongly prefer V2 for the soundstage. The stealth is different enough to consider owning both.
DMS joins Joshua Valour in putting Arya in a lofty pedestal.
Those two have convinced me that this should be my 1st foray into the high-end..
Except that Josh liked the V2 and really doesn't like the Stealth (V3).
Not sure if there's a full video in it, but as a 6XX fan had you considered picking up ZMF's new sennheiser pads? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on them.
In fact, maybe there would be a full vid's worth if you picked up the beyerdynamic pads too. I'd be super interested to see how they measure on the DT1990
So I finally got a source where I can listen to planar headphones--that being the awesome Cayin N8ii Tube DAP. That said, I pulled out my Hifiman X v2's and experienced for the first time when a planar could really do (previous source with an LG V phone which could not sufficiently drive planar). I heard this is quite an improvement on even those but is it true it only comes with a 6.5" cable...nothing in the box for 3.5 or balanced? Did you use the stock cable since you were hooking it into a desktop setup?
I also have the coveted Final Audio Sonorous X with some kind of silver litz balanced cable that came with it...as well as Pioneer's SE-Monitor5 closed backs... both of which I could sell at a premium. I'm sure the Arya would sound great with the different mode options on that DAP.
not gonna be cliché and think josh put you up to this, after all he didn’t give the stealth Arya the respect you just did nor anything like he did the og Aryas, which are one of the hardest 🎧 to find used much less new, they are ghosts….Now you give me confidence to buy these stealths, i bought the k9 pro after you & z pretty much told me to so i look forward to this pairing. Arya was the first high end headphone (or $350+) i wanted (not just because i named my amazing 😺 Arya 6 yrs ago for the best character on Thrones) but then discovered ZMF. Arya will be the one non ZMF cans i will buy for now but you offer no link so do you recommend where i buy them today? anyone have em under $1,599? apos includes a cable so leaning towards them…as always, thanks ✌🏼
880s 600ohm with good amp and eq is my best jack of all trades
Today I tried It in Istanbul. Thanks to Akalin Muzik for the opportunity. Boom. I felt in love
Ironically, the headphones named "Stealth" are the more noticeable and noteworthy of headphones.
Great review as always. :)
Element III Review when?
(I've got an Element II, and I'm curious to know how the two compare)
Just noticed this video today. I got the Arya Stealths a couple weeks ago after receiving an email sale notification and feel validated by DMS's review. :D
My immediate reaction upon putting them on, as I bought them based solely based on reputation and strength of reviews for the previous iterations, was that they're absolutely worth the money. For context, I listen to a lot of EDM (all sorts), various forms of rock (prog, alt, classic), and some folk and classical. Other headphones I own include the Focal Elex, Sony MDR-Z7M2, Sony MDR-CD1700, HIFIman Sundara, Sennheiser HD560S, HD58x, three iterations of the Fostex TR50p Mk3 (stock, Dekoni Blue, and Modhouse balanced), Meze 99 Noirs, and a few others, all distributed throughout the house and office and home office and connected to various amps. And as a matter of preference, I tend to prefer fun to analytical headphones as I listen to enjoy rather than to create, produce, or review music. FWIW, the only headphones I've ever owned that I really disliked and sold are the Beyerdynamic DT-990 Pros (80 Ohm version) - the pronounced V-shaped response just irritated me to no end. I didn't even want to keep them as any sort of reference. (EDIT - July 5, 2022 - Got some DT990 600 ohm cans just over a week ago and I find I like them quite a lot more than the 80 ohm version. Impressions thus far: the bass isn't flabby nor the highs ice-pick bright - feels much more balanced than the 80 ohm version; wish I still had the 80 ohm cans for a direct comparison, but I am pretty confident in this read given how much I disliked the 80 ohm version)
Anyway, the Arya's really impressed me right out of the box, and the last time I was so enthused with a set of transducers was when I got my Moondrop Blessing 2:Dusk IEMs last year. As the Arya has replaced my Sundaras at my primary listening location, the most obvious difference & improvement is the bass extension and the wider soundstage. Is the Arya worth 3 or 4 x the cost of the Sundara? That's a matter of personal preference, but for me the answer is a definite yes.
Edition XS is very comfortable personally for me, much more than Sundara. Build quality is typical Hifiman, lightweight not rugged and very much similar to that of Hifiman Ananda (except headband difference). For an open back headphone tied to a desk, it has good build quality.
Can agree, most comfortable headphone I owned, while Deva with same headband but other pads wasnt so Nice.
good build quality? hahaha maybe if they cost 100$
@@soulfulfool I am speaking from experience. I have used a Hifiman Sundara for an year without any issues. Then sold it for a good price to buy the XS
However don't let me stop you from your hate campaign.....
I´ve got the Arya Stealth since a few days and i couln´t be happier! Keep in mind the headphone needs a few hours to "burn in" in the beginning it was a bit sharp but now perfect!
I own Arya V2, Arya Stealth and HE1000SE . For me , the magic headphone you are talking about, is HE1000SE, which sounds, for me, like a Stealth on steroids . Though Arya Stealth is an amazing headphone .
The SE may be my next HP after I decide to "upgrade" from the Stealth.
@@Ezees23 for me, from all headphones i have listened until now, H1kSE is the only high tier headphone that trully deserves the price . And they are better than any other headphone at their price, and for me, even above. I am talking about headphones alone, with a decent amplification. With super-ultra very expensive amplification , Susvara MIGHT take the cake ... For some people it doesn't , even like this. Also, for the fact that it can sound so amazing even from a 150 bucks portable dac/amp, makes it the best choice by far . But, as DMS is always saying, it is my opinion. You need to listen to them first .
@@diana73654 Sounds good to me. How's the stage compared to the Arya v2's and Stealths???
@@Ezees23 bigger, more depth , take stealth version and increase all the good things . Stealth and SE are amazing for the money, each one.
@@diana73654 I'm intrigued. I may try to trade in my Aryas after a while.
What DEKONI EARPAD would you recommend for the Hifiman Arya Stealth? Or would you keep the original pads on it? I use it with a Yulong DA10 DSC Headphone amp. What do you think of that combo?
I know you work for Abyss, so perhaps you’re reluctant to say, but how do these stack up against the new Diana TC, which other reviewers have named the best headphone, ever?
when i heared correctly he does not work for them anymore, but yeah a comparison would be interesting
Realistically, these are better in every single way except booming bass
Hi DMS, thx for your informative and ojective review. ... looked at your test videos, BUT i didn't found a product from DENON ... i would really like to hear your impressions/thoughts about, e.g. an "ah d9200". best regards, u.
I spy with my little eye, an Ace of Spades in the thumbnail. When is the Witch Queen review coming out?
sentient headphone rig knows all
@DMS you sound like a good one to ask this to as I know you love both and you are a young cat and likely game , is Arya Stealth comparable or better than HD 800s for gaming? Specifically footsteps and gunfire placement.
It's quite funny how DMS and Joshua Valour have the opposite opinion on the Arya vs the Arya stealth. :)
I really wanted to love this headphone, but after a few weeks I had to return it. The main issue is that the upper mid range/low treble was a little hot to me. I found that I personally needed more warmer sounding headphone.
Pros were the great detail and speed of everything. Some songs just sounded insane to listen to.
Used on a Topping A/D30 pro stack.
The pads also hurt my jaw (Mildly big head).
You tried the XS? Was considering that.
The A30/D30 Pro stack may have been the actual culprit along with not burning them in. There's a reason Arya owners take the time to play in/burn in their cans and pair them with Class A discrete amps - the treble smooths out after about ~75hrs and the Class A amps have better timbre and less annoyingly bright trebles. It's what I did and I'm glad I gave them time - they're revealing yet smooth at the same time.
That stack is more than likely the main reason. I had the A90 with the Arya v2s and it was piercing yet lackluster. Sent it back and bought a used Gustard H20 - Class A discrete FTW!!!
@@Ezees23 I just got my Arya stealth today and immediately noticed exact same issue as @jimmyfrancis9693 did above. I am going to wait to make sure I get over the ~75hrs break in before I decide to return it. Interesting enough, I felt the same about the 560S which got better every time I listened to them.
I am curious, which amp are you using?
@@Ezees23 I just saw this second post. Still on Gustard H20?
The full quote ''Jack of all trades , master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one'' suits the Aryas better.
I wonder how these would go when it comes to immersion in single player games, I'd assume pretty darn good!
Unfortunately not many games have good audio. A good headphone can really expose bad microphones and low quality background music. E.g. when I game on my Stax, they add more distraction than immersion. With that much money I'd first invest in a good display. But after that, cans like the HD800s or the Arya Stealth can for sure make a big difference with how much soundstage they provide. Try them if you have the budget.
You don't have to assume. You don't need to go this high to reach the top end of what gaming audio has to give you!
As cious li said, good headphones reveal bad microphones or expose bad recording, but you really don't need to go this high up in headphones just for gaming, IMO something with a warm/v shaped sound signature with decent staging works best for games
Hey bro im playing Cod Modern Warfare on Topping MX5 And Arya Stelth. My skill went up like 15 % since i made purchase. Spotting footsteps is amazing.
@@michabuszynski7326 damn really? I'm jealous
Would like to see Dan Clark stealth
Have you tried the Hifiman HE6se v2? It has some build flaws that the Arya does not have, but I've heard that many people have fixed those with mods and chose it over the Arya because they find it more enjoyable, mostly because of the top end I think? Considering that the HE6se is often (almost always tbh) on sale at 600$ though, if it comes even close to the Arya it would be an awesome buy and I would love to hear your thoughts on it!
How much money and how much time are you going to devote to mod the HE6se v2, while not knowing if you're getting it right??? Then to do that and still not equal the Arya in some other areas. That's the question one needs to ask, unless you just like DIYing...
How would you compare soundstage between Shp9500/9600, 990, 880?
will the magnet on the modmic mic holder affect the magnet on the planar drivers??
How do you see this complementing argon t50rp? And in combination with magni 3+?
i really like my aria stealths, on my first listen my immediate reaction was they are lifeless honestly, its so flat, it doesn't lend itself well to some genres where there needs to be a bit more body and soul to the music, reggae being the perfect example where its focus is on mid bass beats, the arya v3 does it but its very much not the focus and comes across a little too clinical. what is amazing though is you soon come to realize they are not banging out a bassline because - the music isn't banging out a bassline, its just lesser quality headphones would bloat the mid bass where the arya is far more focused, far faster and clean, when called for the bass hits pretty hard and fast but more crucially it extends very well so nothing gets lost or does not come through strong enough, the first time i listened to ''lil john get low'' i realized how punchy they can be when the question is asked. everything else performs as you would expect, flat mids with a hint of brightness in the upper mids and a treble that's quite bright but not painfully so, its basically ''just right''. i game a lot with the headset aswell and use a chord mojo 2 and find it does an excellent job with imaging and soundstage, both of which become even more apparent when the focus is on sounds like distant gunfire, you can pick out direction and distance really well. my only downside would be they don't respond that well to EQ, boosting the low end at all can lead to a loss of control and some distortion at high volume (really high though), there's not much headroom i find between sounding absolutely amazing and then pushing it a bit too far quickly realizing i should knock it back a few clicks, single driver woes i guess, not that experienced with larger headphones in general but multi driver IEM's can naturally handle complexity very loudly a bit better as might be expected.
my only other comparisons would be DT1990 pro, a handful of ''gaming headsets'' and plenty of IEM's, 64 U12T, sony ier m9, just to name a few in recent months.
As far as EQ goes, that isn't the Arya's fault at all - they take EQ like a champ. That "falling apart" is more of an expression of the amp in your chain - when it begins to run out of power. When you boost the bass it requires much more power (current actually) from the amp and when that current isn't able to be produced, the amp produces more distortion and loses control of the driver - making it "fall apart". Put them on a substantially more powerful amp and pump up the bass all you want - they will only get more bass and more controlled (I did this with my bypassed Emotiva A-100 (~12W @ 32 ohms) - my jaw literally dropped and I still refer back to that sense of supreme "effortlessness").
Timbre aside, how does the tuning of the stealth compare to the tuning of the older versions of Arya. Was the older version brighter? Less mids maybe?
The V2 can be a bit much if you are treble sensitive, but you get a slightly wider and taller soundstage than the Stealth. Would check the headfi Arya thread, lotta V2 to Stealth converts
Hi I have a question on driving this headphone. Do you think that a DAP could drive it well? Mine has a 6.2 Vrms and 980 mW@ 32ohm and 128 mW@300ohm on the balanced ouput. Could it be fine?
thanks in advance
Could you compare them to the Meze Empyrean? I value comfort a lot more so than sound
How does it compare to the Diana TC?
The frequency responce head at 5:28 though
*All hail our sentient frequency response head overlord!*
Dms , so is the he1000se a big step up to the arya ? Do you have a video on the 1000stealth or the se ?
Have you heard the Focal Clear MG? Any thoughts between that and the Arya?
Can I power it with a Fiio k7? I am really strugling between the Lcd-X and Arya Stealth! I listen mainly to electronic music!
Will IFI Zen CAN HFM amp be sufficient for these headphones?
Hey DMS, can you do a review or comparison between the Stealths and Focal Clear OGs?
I posted one over on the headphone show channel 😄
Would be curious how the Arya stealth compares to Arya Organic.
Dear DMS can I ship you my HE1000SE if you still have the Arya Stealth to help us cross compare thoroughly
Was that your editor trying to do a jump scare? 😂
I bought both the Hemp and the 325x by your recommendation and LOVED both, however I liked the Hemp just a tiny bit more! How does Soundstage compare between the Arya stealth and the hemps with geekria G pads??
Whole different ballpark. Expect a 15 times increase in sound quality
@@bluemonstrosity259 I bought the Arya stealth not long after posting this comment. Sound quality is exactly at the level I expected, but my question was about the Soundstage. I found that while the hemps can be slightly wider to the sides at times, they don't have depth projection toward the front at all. The shape of the Soundstage feels like having a cone on each side where all the sound happens.
The Arya's Soundstage is generally bigger, and it has the shape of a tiara or an Aztec penacho (weird description but it's accurate) , things feel higher up on your head and have height and depth. Hemps can produce closer and further sounds on either side, but the Aryas always feel distant.
I wanna know what you think about the Hifiman He-R9 headphones.