So you're new to audio? Headphones Basics!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- SO! You're new to audio and headphones? Here's the basics to help you understand what in the world is going on!
My social media:
--- / dms3tv
--- / dms3tv
--- Snapchat @dms3tv
--------- Forums: forum.hifiguid...
--------- Hifiguides tool (beta): hifiguides.com/
If you want to join the discussion checkout our discord community:
--- discordapp.com...
Sound stage Is how far away your girlfriend is shouting at you.
Imaging is knowing if the threat is coming from the front or behind.
dosduros this comment is important
First you need to have a girlfriend
@@el_migu_el RIP simps
OMG, this is so accurate. I have lived through this a few times. I'd wear headphones and not hear her the first 5 times she yelled at me... And then I finally heard her. :-D
@@el_migu_el You can still understand the reference :D
I was here to witness the glorious rise of DMS.
I and the rest second you that.
@Blue what is wrong with you
Ditto
Yeah I have a feeling this dude is going to get pretty big in a few years time
DMS: Digital Media Sucks
Getting one of the most important things out of the way first I see
metal571 lol. Btw I felt the K371s were too Bassy? What do you think of the NAD HP50 and the PSB M4U1s as alternatives. They were super expensive a couple years ago but they’re relatively cheap now. would appreciate your opinion!
@@keshavrai4621 both too uncomfortable to use for me, and M4U1 is very prone to cracking. HP50 especially bad on comfort with tiny pads and the stage isn't very impressive
metal571 right. That’s a shame. Do you know any alternatives with better soundstage and a neutral sound that are closed? I think I could put up with the discomfort and quality of the PSBs but that’s only if the sound is worth it.
@@keshavrai4621 no. K371 is as neutral to the Harman response as I know under 200 for a closed back. If you want something good but brighter there's still K553 mk2 aka K550 mk3
metal571 sorry to keep bothering you but would you be able
To recommend anything better in the $200-$300 price range that are better? I don’t mind brighter headphones but I’m also looking for good soundstage and clarity.
Something closed and easily drivable by an iPhone 11. Not too much bass.
I bought the M50X 6 years ago and you killed me with that opening statement lol
I went into a store, Sam Ash, looked at their headphones and got recommended the m50x. Went home listen to a couple songs I know pretty well on Tidal Hi-Fi. I returned them right the next day. I think they're the Beats of the audiophile world.
@@Electricalwav audiophile Beats is a very good description lol but at least they aren't as overpriced as Beats
meh for pure listening they arnt good, but for their price they are great monitoring headphones.
M50s are incredibly good for beginners lol and lasted me 6 years and now put them away cause I got XM4s by Sony
I’ve been using em for like 3 years. Liked em at first. Now that I’m diving balls deep into mixing, I realize I can’t hear shit. Mix my song for like 3 hours. Think it sounds like crap. Pull up a reference song and it also sounds like crap. My buddy showed up with some beyerdynamics and I nearly shit my pants. I was always told that the athm50x’s were good. But naw. They sound about as clear as my $30 kz earbuds. Now I’m just hyping myself up before I spend way too much money on a new headphone setup.
This cleared up a lot of audiophile jargon. You're a great teacher.
You should make a video of popular headphones that are exemplary of certain signatures. Extremely dark, great imaging but poor soundstage, etc.
Which one are you curious about? I think I know a few :)
@@NVRSE500 how about imaging open backs?
@@JackHandelman Sennheiser HD599
I'm loving what I'm seeing here bro! I also agree with being respectful of the opinions of others in regards to personal preference. Keep up the great work dude.
Watched this video with my M50x's. Still waiting for my argons to come in, i will be on week 9 on saturday! :D
I was rattled by the skelly boi at 3:04
Omg how did you noticed that
Do you got some sort of super power or something
Took me awhile. Finally saw it. Why is it even there?
dank
I would love to see a video about how to get started, I think you have a lot of new people;le here since the Linus video(Me Included), who are pretty excited about this new world but don't know how to get started
So your recommendations for everything needed at a few price points
@@IeatPiggiesForLife Well, it's sort of relative to the price range and sound signature that you find yourself preferring. I and many other people in this hobby would highly recommend the Philips Shp9500 as an excellent all around entry can for those looking to get a taste of a more premium sound. An amplifier and DAC, DAP, or DAC amp combo unit is a MUST if you want to get the full taste of what your cans are capable of producing. Like he said, there are very affordable amps and dacs in recent years that perform exceptionally well. If you're looking for a portable setup i'd go with a DAP or portable amp/DAC combo unit. A couple examples would be the Fiio q1 Mk2 portable and the Acmee MF - 01 DAP, you can't really go wrong with either of those. If you want a cheap desktop experience then something simple and cheap like the Fiio EK10 would do just fine with the SHP9500's and run you only a little over $150 total I believe. Hope this helps lol I got carried away.
Edit: This is a budget example not the multiple price points you requested as it would be too long if I wrote it lol
@@raheart220 I'll definitely keep that in mind as I'm looking to buy my first amp/dac combo and a nice headset so thanks for the comment!
@@IeatPiggiesForLife or just get massdrop Sennheiser 58x for $150, dont really need an amp to get started. Enjoy those then purchase an amp when you are ready. 58x and 6xx are the safest picks at 150-220 range. The latter needs an amp more though.
Set a price range and then think about what you are trying to do. Is it listen from just a phone or PC or an audio system or all of the above. Is it for home or travel/commuting or both.
These are just a few things to consider. I am a low/mid fi guy as I can't afford the high end stuff but have a great mix of stuff which includes IEM's (amazing bang for buck) and some new and 2nd hand headphones. Most hobbiest end up with a collection but best to think what you want first as a priority and then reach out to the community for help.
Hope that assists.
Ok, I am 30 secs in and this guy tells me my headphones are bad.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They are, I’ve got a pair
Yeah but why?
Like many others, I discovered your channel through the Linus collab. After binging some of your vids, I can definitely say I'm a fan. Can't say the collab was a match made in heaven though lol, but I'm definitely glad it happened. Keep up the good work man, and this video really came out at the perfect worst time. Right when I told myself I was gonna start being financially responsible. :P
You should check out Zreviews too. To my knowledge Z and Dms are good friends but Z is just raw, uncut, un editited pure from his mouth and a great style of video imo. Long and almost always just talks about audio.
I recommend Wheezy Reviews and Bert Reviews as well, they're both great channels that make beginner friendly videos in my opinion.
Finally, a straight guide. Thank you so much. I can finally let my friends have a better understanding about headphones
You son of a b..
I’ve tried to by my friends headphones (I’ve since just bought something that they’ll most likely enjoy and they have) and try to explain to them some audio terms to better get headphones that suit their preference but almost ALWAYS end up rambling about a specific topic and just end up confusing them by jumping back and forth. I’ll just force them to watch this lol. Great vid my dude
I'm in.
I agree with most your points and vids, but I actually still like my m50x
Rule #2, Beats are bad...
I like your opening point and I wish I would have known it when I first got into this hobby. I now understand what everyone means when they say the M50x has "mono-like" soundstage.
Excellent explanation. I learned a lot today! Thanks for your hard work.
Found you thanks to your collaboration with Linus. Ended up scrapping my plans to buy another "gaming headset" for Christmas and instead went with a nice pair of open-backs with great imaging and low enough impedance for my little FiiO E10K to power them.
Thanks DMS, I always enjoy these informative vids since I always have a hard time explaining this stuff to friend who like to get into this hobby we enjoy. So thanks and keep em coming
Awesome video! You've put more emotion and life into this video. It is easy and pleasant to watch.
You look good DMS.
Until now , whatever you said was 100% correct for me, and helped me a lot all these months that I watching you . Thanks a lot .
Nice job dude. 😎 I like vids such as this...aimed at assisting newcomers, hence bringing better quality sound to the masses.
Thoughtfully explained, not overly technical, but enough to cut the mustard for most newcomers.
Happy listening all. 🎧🎧🎧
Hey DMS, just came over from seeing your video on Linus's channel. Looking forward to your next vid!
Got m50x and returned in 2 days, could see the appeal for some but way too hyped for what I’m looking for
Same
They're incredibly good hes just an opinionated a hole about it
Like what you like, they're good for budget range, and many great sound engineers used them for many famous songs, I dont understand why people are azz holes to others about simply liking a pair of cans
tbh I'm not a fan of the video shaking effect. I know its meant to make the video feel more casual and off the cuff but I much preferred the more professional look of your older ones.
I'm sure he will go back, he seems very responsive to community feedback.
I believe it's that he used a camera person this time around? I agree it made his vids super clean, but the presentation / content in this was really good so overlooking that was easy for me
welcome all new viewers from LTT, this video is for you!
Raise your hands If you are audiophiles but still watching this!
i have shp, do i count?
Exactly... I'm here for this refresher! Class is in sesh.
Victor Martinov being an audiophile isn't about the equipment you own, it's about deeply appreciating music and sound. If you appreciate and love both of those and want to listen to music in as high a quality as possible, then you're an audiophile, welcome :)
Year later, but I'm here.
Thank you so much for this video!
Immediately pressed like after hearing the first rule! 🤣
I like my m50x.... I mean, i use my 6XX's at home, but the m50x are still used when i go out, i like em well enough
the confidence w which he shat on m50x🤯😂 kudos, u gained a subscriber
I would love to see a DIY sound panel video, you walked me through it at RMAF but it would be cool to have a video to reference.
Hey DMS - since you’re talking about basics, perhaps you could remember to include manufacturers when to talk about models. Simply reading off models numbers means nothing to anyone apart from those in the know, and they may not need your videos anyway
Good video D! Excited about your headphone pick video!
Son, was someone holding the camera... my man invest in a tripod
Great vid the shaking effect is making me nasuas though...
m50x with hyperx flight earpads are perfection
Everyone has each own subjective preference on audio listening. "Respect" is the best term for Audio enthusiasts.
If you really like music the only thing someone starting out needs to know is find something thats comfortable and sounds good for your type of music or particular application. That's basically everything the casual listener needs to know. A pair of headphones that are comfortable to wear should be the first consideration. Then sound and cost. No matter how great a pair of phones sound. If you can't comfortably wear them then they are useless. Forget about neutrality unless you're planing on being an audio engineer and mixing live or recorded sound. What an engineer needs and what a music lover needs are two different things. No two peoples ears are the same. what sounds good to you may not sound good to me. An engineer listens to music at high volumes. Their cans need to be neutral . They aren't enjoying the music they are listening for defects.
Hey! I enjoy my M50X’s 😎
They're incredibly good hes just an opinionated a hole about it
Like what you like, they're good for budget range, and many great sound engineers used them for many famous songs, I dont understand why people are azz holes to others about simply liking a pair of cans
I had m50s for 6 years and put them down after I got the sony XM4s
They're great for people getting into good audio cause they're such a small v shape sound that its flat but had a fun kick to it, I hate the overly mid bass from the m40s and I also bought the m50xbt but dont use them lol
They good, just this goon is a goon, I cant listen to him now
Since you're planning to release a vid on your headphone picks at different price points, would you be doing one on amps and/or dacs too? And what are the pros and cons of going for amp/dac combos compared to buying stand-alone?
Great vid. Please more basics for all us noobs out there.
Deeply appreciated man.
This video explains just about everything I had a question about thank yoy
One term you used but didn't define was "roll off". But, I assume I get it. This was good info, thanks.
This is guy is such a pure genius. Thumbs up
Straight out the gate "AT50x are bad" 🤣 they were my first set of headphones and i remeber thinking "omg these sound so clear"
Thanks. That was very informative. I'm subscribed!
Hi DMS. One term I am never quite sure of is "resolving". Care to share your thoughts?
Seriously good run down btw. Very impressed +10.
can you explain why is m50x bad?
I'm planning to buy m50x-bt actually, I do love audio technica's products
They're incredibly good hes just an opinionated a hole about it
Like what you like, they're good for budget range, and many great sound engineers used them for many famous songs, I dont understand why people are azz holes to others about simply liking a pair of cans
I had m50s for 6 years and put them down after I got the sony XM4s
They're great for people getting into good audio cause they're such a small v shape sound that its flat but had a fun kick to it, I hate the overly mid bass from the m40s and I also bought the m50xbt but dont use them lol
They good, just this goon is a goon
@@CocoKoi321 they arent *good* but they are good for the price lol... just invest in some nice phones, yall wont regret it
@@CocoKoi321 funny how you mention xm4s, when xm4 itself is a crap headphone lol. bloated bass and nothing else.
if you like bass boosted and bloated stuff i can see how you would like both xm4s and the m50x since both have a heavy emphasis on nothing but bass
Proud owner of M50x. Love them.
Wow coming over from LTT catching up while in home office and getting kicked in the balls straight away with my m50x
Ngl, he's right. M50X are good casual consumer headphones, for sure, buy once you have an amp and the opportunity to buy something the same price as the M50X which is audiophile quality then there's really no excuse lol.
But the M50X are a nice gift for a casual consumer imo
@@BibtheChib very late response sorry but, i want to buy the m50x headphones but dont want to get an amp, they are just for listening to music and playing games. but would there be anything better to buy. i dont have any intentions of making or mixing music either
Superb intro!
Nice job on this video, keep up the great work.
Love the channel keep it going!!
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks for the basics run down!
Long time subscriber ✌😎
4:02 - You said, “I did a video here explaining sensitivity and impedance,” but I’m not seeing a linked video at that point?
I did sub BTW. Like your takes.
PS. Luv to see you review maybe some more creative unique, unusual DAC Amp hook-ups/pairings. Creative in a sense. Just like that stuff. Not much on RUclips for that. Zeos has done tad here and there, on the fly in reviews. Now I get not all Dacs pair nicely to certain Amps; and some are made to thrive more so with others. Having said this, hence, why I'd like to see more creative hook-ups. Creative, in that they combine well together, and aren't usually always thought of in a pairing or stacking. Rather, than just the jds and schitt stack (which are fine); or the common ones (and I have no beef with them); but would like to see some unique ones, that play good together. Just my thoughts. Thanks man. Great stuff. Know I'm late on this vid. Catching up. 🤘🏼👌🏼✌🏼
Please take a look/do a comparison of the DT 177x GO vs the DT 1770 Pro - interested to see what you think and if the 177xs improved upon the things you didn't like in the 1770s.
Brilliant DMS. Love cutting fat videos like this one
I agree that the M-50X sucks (at that price point) it's not a good headphone, I have tried it, my Roommate has it, however, I own the original M50 and they dont sound anything like the new M50X, they are not a great headphone but for that price (the original M50) is not bad, its a fun headphone and that's not the only headphone I have, I have several headphones, my favorite once HD 800S, again when people compare the HD 800 to the S, it bugs me to, their 2 very different headphones, My brother has the original a to HD 800 I've tried them several times, and I own the 1800 S. There's no perfect headphone there some things that I enjoy more one a $350 headphone for fun, compared to the $1600 one, I listen to a wide range of genres in music therefore I feel a need different headphones for different genres, The main thing I listen to is instrumental therefore the HD 800s are great for that, Also I think he should point out that amplifiers and DACs make a big difference I don't think enough people point that out, everybody just think that by headphone is plug and play, not really not an audio file standard. It's nice when reviewers point out the different dacks and amps that they used, and how different they make those headphone sound. It might seem like too much to take but it was really sad to hear people complain about a headphone that is not being driven or power properly. If nobody reads this I'm fine, and if you did and you don't understand what I'm talking because you're new to this, I apologize.....
.. If you are a to be a true audiophile you'll get it eventually....lol
Logic knows a lot about headphones
Great video. Really informative
Nice video good job
I said that once and i am going to say it again why you start to prefer hd 880 600 ohm over the hd 650 ???
An extremely good guide.
You could do tutorials, lessons and everything in between about headphones, speakers and sound in general.
Very well explained!
good info, thanks bro! :)
Good stuff as always.
wait till next year bro! mhh32452 merry Christmas and happy new year!!!!
Can you release your outro song somewhere? Sounds amazing!
Im not one to blow smoke up asses, but I appreciate it cuz... it's a lot to wade through being new to the community. This definitely helped.
Ok i'd consider my DT880 to be endgame headphones
Now i understand what roll off means ,for instance, you can,t scream in an open space with a Base voice,i think.Or not. Thank you, nice video.
"Roll off" is part of the frequency response that dips down and keep dropping significantly. Bass tends to go in straight lines and doesn't reflect while high pitches do. Think about a subwoofer and running a range of frequencies through it the higher the pitch the less sound will be reproduced by the subwoofer. If you looked at the frequency response you'd see a "roll off" towards the higher frequencies.
Great video as usual D!! ✌️✌️ PEACE ✌️✌️
Just don't like how the camera always move.
I didn't understand the extension part clearly.. anybody?
Are there some cheap headphones that are actually hi fi not mid fi? Is price the only thing that matters for that?
Coming from the hd600 to maxwell funny enough lmao
I prefer open backs but Maxwells are so amazing I can pass this time
Thanks
yeh some of that is going over my head :) :p, the term mid forward I imagine I am sitting in the middle of the room or a bit forward from that.
Nah, it means the mid range frequencies have more "volume" overall than the bass or the treble frequencies.
Mr speakers ether flow c are amazing closed back headphones. Every other set I own is open back. But I put them in my top 3
A good one.
$20 this guy is gonna hit 100k within 1/4 of a year from now…
Yeah, a good amp and dac probably won't hurt sound quality, but they sure can put a dent in my pocketbook.
DMS...Did you use LTT RED camera? Did you shoot some scenes for Linus.📹
I own a couple of pricey headphones and enjoy experimenting with different sound signatures and headphone types, and am trying out some chifi in-ears soon. I still think that the M50x is good, but in certain areas. I don't feel like the hate for them is justified though. I often use them at work and sometimes find that they give impact (due to their V shape) to songs that I'd found boring before, and I don't think that's a bad thing. The harsh highs people speak of seem like a myth to me, as I never get fatigued from them (outside of the awfully uncomfortable ear cups), and have heard way harsher highs from other more popular audiophile headphones, like the HD 380s, or even the K712s sometimes. So yeah, I really wish people would get off the M50x hate train.
Can someone explain to me why the m50x's are bad? I know from using my friends that I don't like them, mainly due to painful highs and just overall the sound seems to smush together, theres no separation.
But ive seen 3 videos now of dms saying he hates them, and I cant find out why he does
Zero soundstage, lots of sibilance, zero detail.
@@dannybos7024 really great soundstage , great detail too!
Personal preference personal preference personal preference
And also personal preference personal preference personal preference personal preference personal preference personal preference personal preference
The a hole in this vid even crap shoots himself saying this 5:30
They're incredibly good for budget and I am sure many famous songs were monitored ON m50s,
They're incredibly good hes just an opinionated a hole about it
Like what you like, they're good for budget range, and many great sound engineers used them for many famous songs, I dont understand why people are azz holes to others about simply liking a pair of cans
I had m50s for 6 years and put them down after I got the sony XM4s
They're great for people getting into good audio cause they're such a small v shape sound that its flat but had a fun kick to it, I hate the overly mid bass from the m40s and I also bought the m50xbt but dont use them lol
They good, just this goon is a goon
Aha!
I got it
I think i like headphones that are bright with great trebble extension kind of mid-forward
Middle of the road soundstage
and imaging is not important
Thank you
I still don't really understand the definition of "grain". I originally thought it talks about the definition of treble is hazy and "low-fi" but the more I listen to, the more it is caused by thr recording itself.
So, I will be much appreciated if you can explain the meaning of grain !
That's one of those things where you just have to hear a headphone that has less of it to really understand. It has nothing to do with frequency response at all. Everything just sounds clearer with less fuzziness to the sound no matter if the headphone is brighter or darker
It's like when you listen to beats headphones a lot of it sounds kind of muddy and not very clear even though it may sound exciting, "fun" and really bassy it's just not good quality or detailed at all. That is an example.
Any plans on reviewing Schiit Heresy?
There are a couple comments in here on Beats and some other headphones. I tell my used to tell my students all the time how awful sounding they were. I told them I could buy a pair of headphones from 5 Below (for those that don't know, it's like a souped-up $ store). I brought in 3 pairs and the general consensus was that they sounded better, but not enough bass.....
where is the video to the sensitivity and impedance? Do you have an article that I could use to follow along or refer to?
Perfect video.
May you give me an advice?
Porta Pro KTC x JBL Quantum 200?
SPECS:
Porta Pro KTC
On ear
15Hz to 25kHz
101dB/mW
67g (weight)
44mm (driver diameter)
60ohms
Quantum 200
Over the ear
20Hz to 20kHz
100dB/mW
245g
50mm
32ohms (I bet this is a huge difference)
Thank you very much
Great video!!!
Is the video on the Mayflower Arc out?
great video! ... could use a little less camera shake next time 😅