I love the situation liu bang got in. "So what's the punishment for being late?" "Death." "And what's the punishment for rebellion? "Death." "Fuck it." ⚔️
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The way you present history is funny, entertaining, and highly informative. In all honesty the trademarks of a great story teller! Thankyou for your hardworking and talent.
I love Han Xin story. He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war. He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn. So he picked a side and seal his fate. As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin. Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises. The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology. Liu Bang - The Peasant Scoundrel Who Founded the Han Dynasty. (Complete Series) ruclips.net/video/gpBgawuphf8/видео.html
This video is fun, and also very accurate. You really captured Liu Bang's lovable rogue image. The "official colors" of previous dynasties stem from Han Dynasty religious philosophy. Each of the five elements was identified with a color: red=fire, black=water, yellow=earth, blue=wood, white=metal. The five elements and their colors were then applied to every aspect of life, including history. In Chinese mythology, the first five kings were divine beings who could each be identified with a color and element: Blue Emperor Fuxi, Flame Emperor Shennong, Yellow Emperor Xuanyuan, White Emperor Shaohao, and Black Emperor Zhuanxu. The elements are also linked by a birth and a destruction cycle: fire creates earth (ash), wood creates fire, water nourishes wood, metal melts into water, and earth hardens into metal. The Xia Dynasty were descended from the Black Emperor, who was aligned with water, and thus the dynasty itself is aligned with wood and identified with the color blue. The Shang Dynasty was able to defeat them since they were descended from the Yellow Emperor and thus aligned with metal, which destroys wood. The founder of the Zhou Dynasty was claimed to be the chosen child of the Blue Emperor, and thus his dynasty was identified with fire and the "official color" was red. The Qin Dynasty claimed descent from the White Emperor, who was aligned with metal, and thus for Han Dynasty philosophers, their black clothing was an expression of their water alignment. Liu Bang was thus the chosen one of the Red Emperor/Flame Emperor, and being born from fire, his dynasty would be aligned with Earth.
Some say Liu Bang is just lucky, I beg to differ. Yes he did have some luck but his success was not only due to that. Compare him with XiangYu. In XiangYu’s crew, he was the most capable one. His ego wouldn’t allow anyone else to be better either. He disregarded his own advisers and went on his own way. This led to his eventual demise. On the other hand, Liu Bang wasn’t the most capable one in his crew. In fact he surrounded himself with people who were either smarter than him, better at fighting than him, better at logistics than him or better at commanding troops than him. He was willing to trust and use his people well. He listened to his advisers - Zhang Liang and Xiao He and even trusted an untested general with a reputation of a coward, Han Xin, to lead his troops. He was willing to swallow his pride to achieve success. Moral of the story - Don’t be the most capable one in your company. Surround yourself with more capable people than you whom you can trust. Earn their loyalty and learn how to use them properly.
This may be true but I'd hate living this kind of life. I'd rather be a capable and competent person who can do things and achieve greatness on my own, rather than relying on others to do them for me. I'm more of a doer than a sayer. I'd like to be out on the battlefield, be in the thick of things and do things on my own than sitting back in my comfortable palace only giving commands. I suppose each persons has their own path that only they can walk which makes them uniquely them.
@@VersionBest Organizing people, listening to their inputs, choosing whose ideas have more merit, and which course to take is a skill as well. You may not be the best engineer, the best scientist, the best labor organizer or the best logistics manager, but if you're capable of looking at the big picture and fitting the information and ideas than each of those people will provide you, you're providing something really useful to the whole, and a person so blinded by their own ego that cannot accept someone else's superiority in some areas is unfit for that position.
Your videos have really shown me that politics and warfare have progressed about the same everywhere on Earth. Its kind of amazing that anyone got anything done for most of recorded history. Paranoia must have been so normal for any elite.
Han Xin was thought to be one of the greatest generals of China, and he was renowned as “the Xian of War(兵仙)”. Also I found your work very good and attractive, even when I am a Chinese and had learned all these history lessons back in school.
Sorry that there's no new content this week, I have been sick since the start of the week, and I wasn’t able to complete a new episode on time. But the good news is that there is going to be a massive episode next week on Zhang Qian’s tour across the Eastern half of the early Silk Road.
Can you please do Lui Bei, Cao Cao and Sun Quan - and make reference to the differences between romance version and historical records (lol total war reference!)
@@year111 No he's not. Littlefinger was never a good leader. There are not very many people who want to follow him. Liu Bang is like Napoleon. People love him and want to fight for him. And most important. He can lead his men from one victory to another. Liu Bang is the definition of a leader.
I love Han Xin story. He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war. He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn. So he picked a side and seal his fate. As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin. Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises. The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology. Liu Bang - The Peasant Scoundrel Who Founded the Han Dynasty. (Complete Series) ruclips.net/video/gpBgawuphf8/видео.html
This is incredibly charming. After my time with Dynasty Warriors, the 2010 Three Kingdoms show and the latest Total War title, its good to see someone's more cynical and light hearted take on historic events of China's antiquity ages.
Chen Daoming, a Chinese actor, has played both Qin Shi Huang in Zhang Yimou’s movie, Hero, and Liu Bang, founder of the Han Dynasty, in the TV series, King’s War. In the King’s War TV series, Liu Bang’s rival, Xiang Yu, is played by Peter Ho aka Lu Bu in Three Kingdoms 2010
i watch that series, thats why i'm become interested with han-chu contest, with many familiar figure (from three kingdom 2010) that series become more fun to watch
King's War was really well done and I think it is the most accurate portrayal of the story. If I was Han Xi I'd have 2 options choose loyalty or force a triumvirate.
Han Xin is essential in war time. He's too popular and scary to keep around in peace time. If I was Han Xin, I would grovel and act more like a buffoon to downplay how dangerous I was much like Liu Bang did to Xiang Yu.
LMBO! I really need to learn more of Ancient Chinese History. When Lui Bang's rival said"ha ha"! Killed me like the kid that says this in the Simpson's! Well done, Sir!
Many things are at the right time at the right place. In fact no great people exists without an equally great circumstances that propel them to greatness
The first book in the dandelion dynasty really is a retelling of what happened here, but the other books are totally original from what i can tell. Thank you for this.
Nah, usually Royalty use golden yellow color or some kind of yellow color, therefore non royal completely forbid wearing Royal Yellow during olden days it was a serious crime if anyone found dress in Royal yellow, the punishment was not just that individual's death, it may even lead to the whole clan's family members execution (we are talking few hundred to a thousand individuals here), as for red, that is a very typical Lunar New Year color, the myth said each year at Lunar New Year eve, a monster called Nian will come out to destroy things even eating children, the only way to fend it off it is by wearing red and do fire cracker, make a lot of loud noise, therefore Chinese lunar new year always noisy, full of red color, lot of fire cracker. Red also represent happiness and fortune, brings luck, during wedding the marry couple often dress in red, the whole bridal room also red, red pillow case, red bed sheets, red blanket, just red red red. During lunar new year, grown up often give red packet to non marry individuals or their young children for luck, in new year eve, parents will put red packet under children's pillow, this is said to be helping children to grow faster and heathier in tradition, therefore red it is an extremely important color in Chinese culture for few thousand years.
Very well made, i didn´t know about the beginning of the Han Dynastie and that Liu Bang had such a interesting rise to power. I appreciate the entertaining style. Great after this Video i want to play Total War Three Kingdoms again.
I suspect this story has been made into a movie(s) it is amazing! Liu Bang is just such a interesting character. A scoundrel and cheat you can't help but sort of like. I am surprised you didn't mention Liu Bang's last visit to his home village when he got drunk with his neighbours.
I recommend you watch a Hong Kong's TVB series based on this called "The Conqueror's Story". Though it was low budget, but it has a very good romanticized, dramatic and humanatarian storytelling.
Liu Bang was so charismatic that even now me, a Germanic descendent of American settlers a world away over 2000 years later likes and admires the guy! What a boss!
As my understanding as a Chinese, Xiang yu is a damon. What he did was described "咸阳三月火，骸骨乱如麻，哭声惨怛天日，而眉容不敛，是必铁作心肝者。" in Chinese. However, he is also one of the most powerful people in our history. He is a young man, imperious and unpopular. But he has also ruled the whole country for 4 years, only on his own. Just because that, he had borned with a special kind of intuition which can always help him find the weakness of his opponent on the battlefield. Through this intuition, he can kill 200 thousand of best cavalries with 50 thousand soldiers, and beat 600 thousand of eneymies with 30 thousand cavalries, which is extremely unimaginable.
They both abandoned their family's to the enemy. Imagine Liu Bang close relative got killed. Just like Wu did to Guan Yu. Liu bei gonna turns into a monster.
It’s ironic isn’t it? A Chinese from more than a thousand years is the epitome of the American Dream. A farking peasant who rose up to become an Emperor. One whose dynasty lasted several hundred years and one that ethnic Chinese later identify themselves with - Han.
I remember read Hong Kong comic called 'Legends of emperors'. They portrayed Liu Bang like an asshole who love to drink and womanizer (also generous). The exact opposite of Xiang Yu. Exactly you mentioned. At the end stronger build body cannot defeated brilliant strategy of Liu Bang during Chu and Han Contestant. At the end Xiang Yu killed himself and the story continue with Xiang Yu's soul looking for bodies in next centuries to vengeance and be an emperors. Until he managed to possessed the body of founding Song Empire. Basically it's a very good comic. That's made me love history so much!.
@@pangeran92 Liu Bang also has history of massacre the citezen together with Xiang Yu when enter the city. It just his army was smaller that time so less kill count. His army also did several times massacre, just not by him but personal act of his general. Liu Bang also has history of killing off his subordinate that contributed a lot for his dynasty.
One monumental implication for Liu Bang establishing a dynasty has and will continue to influence the fate of China. That anyone regardless of their background could found a new dynasty. In the west, many call their daughter, Princess. But they dont call their son Prince as readily. Why? In the west, the BLUE BLOOD is upmost in claiming the throne. Ordinary people are not good enough at all. So how could ordinary people get anywhere possible to have their offspring to claim the throne? Marrying one's daughter into the royal family and preferably the crown prince. In China, before Liu Bang founded his dynasty, everyone of the founding king/emperor of all the dynasties was a member of a royal family or had high noble blood. No exception. Not one exception for over 2,000 years of Chinese history till the time of Liu Bang. All of subsequent dynasties formed by ethnic Han Chinese people had those born as commoners as their founding emperor. No exception. And rebellions by ordinary people happen frequently often due to this belief that they too could be another Liu Bang. That is, as long as China is not fully democratic or had an authoritarian regime, it will face rebellions sooner or later.
The MOST important legacy of Liu Bang is one fact that all Chiness, by the time they are 6 yrars old, understand. That anyone could set up a dynasty and be the emperor of China. That one could be from any background to become one. No need to jave royal blood, from aristocracy, or even educated. In the west, many patents use the term 'princess' on their daughters. We are fascinated by the like of Princess Kate in the UK. Kate is a commoner. She is married into the royal family. Our fascination about her is based on the fact, in European momarchy, being Blue Blooded has to be the minimum requirement of becoming a monarch. Her commoner status means that marrying one's daughter is the only way any commoners or those without royal blood could aspire to have offsprings that would be blue blooded. Since William the Conqueror, all but one English kings and queens have had the blue blood of William the Conqueror in them. Henry 7, father of Henry 8, was not born a royal. His widowed mum did marry the the then king. His wife however was a royal princess. That's how he claimed his legitimacy and the fact that his offsprings would have blue blood. Before Liu Bang, all the founders of dynasties had been born into royal status of their home state. No exception. The 'first' emperor pf China was born into the royal family of his home state. In China, since Liu Bang, all of the long lasting ethnic Han Chinese dynasties have been founded by commoners. (dynasties founded and had royal family that's of ethnic Han) The Jing dynasty in the mid 300's. The Song dynasty in mid 900's and the Ming dynasty in mid 1,300's were all founded by commoners. But all of the long lasting dynasties not founded by ethnic Han Chinese all were flunded by those born into the royal family of their home state or their family had title of a king vassal to the emperor. The implications and consequences are many but the most important is the belief that anyone from any background could set up a new dynasty and become the emperor of China. Therefore for over 2,200 years, rebellions and revolts have been the norm in China. Many want to try their luck. This is one of the main legacy of Liu Bang .. In term pf history of changing dynasties, it is perhaps the main factor. Ask why the CCP regime is so paranoid about dissents in China.
The main character of Ken Liu’s Dandelion Dynasty books, Kuni Garu, is based off of Liu Bang. The entire main conflict of the first book is an alternate retelling of the rivalry between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu.
@Soulwalker Young Xiang Yu in King's War was protrayed as a tragic hero. King's War was as much of a story of Xiang Yu's downfall as much as it was about the struggle between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu over the fate of an empire. His downfall in the series arguably started when he allegedly massacred 200,000 Qin soldiers that surrendered.
King's War was really well done and I think it is the most accurate portrayal of the story. If I was Han Xi I'd have 2 options choose loyalty or force a triumvirate.
@Soulwalker Young The definition of hero has changed over time. In the context of Xiang Yu, he is the Greek tragic hero. He had charisma, martial prowess, and good bloodlines, all considered heroic traits. He was also arrogant, simple minded, and doesn't listen to sensible advice (see Fan Zeng). Those flaws were what made Xiang Yu a tragic hero.
It is highly unlikely that what historians wrote about Xiang Yu is accurate considering the people were probably biased after defeating him. The winners are the ones who write History. On the other hand what is written about Liu Bang is probably exaggerated since he was the First emperor of a dynasty.
@Soulwalker Young "In order to justify the rule, the enemy would have to take all the blame. Historians are but tool for propaganda" Chen Gong (The Ravages of Time, manga)
What do you mean? Zhang Liang wanted to restore 韩(han) and Liu Bang let him go, but after Xiang Yu murdered the king of 韩 Zhang Liang decided to come back and help Liu Bang the king of 汉(Han).
@@axiemeisterl6645 Thanks. At first, I thought Zhang Liang wanted to restore the same Han Liu Bang was just coincidentally gifted to. Didn't realise they were two different kingdoms.
Han Xin made a right decision based on conscience. If he made himself king, there would be constant war. If he defect, may not be a good choice either. Xiang Yu can lead battles, but administrating an empire needs a whole new skill sets and be willing to adapt. One of Xiang Yu's critical mistake was to kill all the 200,000 surrendered Qin POWs. It was a golden opportunity presented on a silver platter. He had 3 choices: a) disperse them into smaller units and integrate them into his own army. b) keep them together but use them as vanguard under his own officers and NCOs, albeit abit of a risky move, coz they might turn on him. c) Let them go, in hope that some of them might stay as a form of gratitude. Coz in those days, being in the army was guaranteed paid in form of food rations. This is the most risky of all, as they might defect to Liu Bang, bolstering his forces. I'II choose B, becoz they cannot be fully trusted. As I do not want to risk most of my own men, but I need the numbers as well.
Keeping them together would have been more dangerous. These were still imperial troops and the fact that liu bang kept the emperor with him, these men could be easily swayed to turn on xiang yu. He should've killed liu bang straight up in hong gate or let him die in the hongmei banquet.
@@j0hncarp I disagree, you don't understand the situation in a civil war. The last Qin emperor was a total wimp. Those surrendered Qin troops would likely to accept the offer, because it would ensure themselves do not starve to death. Starvation and famine is a common occurrence, esp in civil war. Say even if only 10% accepted, it would make a difference as they are already seasoned troops and do not require to train from scratch. Killing all 200,000 is a big NO-NO.
In the Buddhist version of Three Kingdoms, Cao Cao is the spiritual successor of Han Xin, the last Han child-emperor installed by Dong Zhou is Liu Bang, Lu Bu is Xiang Yu and Zhuge Liang is Zhang Liang.
Liu Bang has been considered the greatest emperor of China of all time. One thousand years later. Another great emperor was born as a nomad said he would follow Liubang and be his general if he was in the same age with Liu Bang. A great man. During 3000 years of history of China. Only four-man can unified China in one single generation. And he is one of them. It's took him 3 years to destroy the Qin empire and 4 years to unification. I lack the word to describe his formidable capability. He is like a successful version of Napoleon consider the fact that the destruction of Qin empire prove the ancient Chinese don't want to be rule by an emperor.
But Liu Bang also an emperor. Qin build a lot of things and try to achieve a lot of things that became a burden for the people, causing the people to against him. Another also due to they are the one destroyed other countries and unified China, basically by force. Many leftover force/descendant from those countries want revenge and rebuild their country, Xiang Yu is one of those people. Third, the death of Qin Shi Huang. After his death, the inner circle of Qin spread and each of them wanted to fight for the grab of power by using his lack inability son. Qin fall is not just from outer threat, but inner conflict too.
Destruction of qin empire means people doesn’t want to be ruled by pure force. Han is successful because it combines both Confucius and legalism. Less strict law, yet with more educational efforts and virtual.
@@papercat2599 Yes, what I trying to say is. Because LiuBang himself was a important leader participate in the revolution war that destroyed the Qin dynasty. It's add more difficulty when Liubang trying to unified China and become a emperor himself.
As for the last question; Just serve under liu bang. When the battle is won, just go and enjoy life. Wheb a peasant could conquer an empire, it means hes just that good...and that lucky, n a master in the art of groveling.
I love Han Xin story. He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war. He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn. So he picked a side and seal his fate. I wonder refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel. As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin. Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises. The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology.
Han Xin is essential in war time but popular and dangerous (even if he doesn't act on it) during peace time. It sucks for Han Xin but his death is probably a factor on why Han has a solid foundation.
Liu Bang's wife (Lü) was a smart, tragic driven craze woman, she was abandoned by Liu Bang during his escape from execution, surviving while taking care of her 2 childrens alone, till she finally united with her husband years later realizing there's another woman (Consort Qi) by his side, who he continue to love more until he died. She was also tortured, imprisoned with her children later during the war too. Lü gave a lot of excellent advises for Liu Bang to strengthen Han, and dedicated her whole life on protecting Liu's bloodline (except for Qi's side.). Sadly, on her last years after Liu Bang's death, she turn bat shit crazy, cruel, power thirst and extremely paranoid. She murdered a tons of loyalist and create massive tension of the high power of Han. She nearly become the first empress instead of Wu Ze Tian, only had been stopped by her last string of sane for the sake of peace, her very old age and Liu bloodline's safety. The most fked up thing Lü ever did was poisoned and killed Consort Qi's son, cut off Qi's four limbs, deafen her, blinded her, muted her with poison, and put her into an excretion pot of a toilet for people to excrete on her until she died.
@@toedpens4954 I know what you're talking about. I read that from the novel of Luo Guan Zhong. However, Luo Guan Zhong wrote a novel to praise the Han Dynasty, so what he wrote did not reflect history. After reading Chen Shou's records, i realised Cao Cao was nothing like Luo Guan Zhong described
Liu Bang being low born is common sterotype even in China, but he is not some mog farmer, his ancestors were aristocrats, he himself was well educated and served as some small local official, he being low born is only relative to those famous people at the same time like Xiang Yu and Han Xin. Sima Qian held great bias towards Liu family and favored Xiang, his biography for Xiang is double in content length than that of Liu Bang. I have being Xiang Yu fan since childhood, and despised Liu for a long time before realizing how great the bias in Shi Ji could be.
Liu Bang was an example of luck. Man, he was incapable to establish his destiny alone, but he always knew how to utilise his best men. That's when a drunk, maniac Liu Bang built up one of China's greatest dynasties. We call it, the biggest irony of Chinese history.
It wasnt luck. Xiang Yu had many talented people under his service before but he was too arrogant or too stupid to use them ( namely Han Xin and Chen Ping). On the other hand, Liu Bang had a very good eye for talented people(well except Han Xin lol), and he knew how to use them to their fullest potential. A good leader doesnt need to be a super human that is good at everything. A good leader is the one that can use other’s talents for greater good. Liu bang was good aT that and he won. It wasnt luck.
“He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! What was I thinking? But not our Liuby, couldn’t be precious Liuby. And he got to be an emperor. What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had a chance. You have to stop him. You have to…” - Xiang Yu
Fun fact, Xiang Yu chu army are the former main army forces of the kingdom of chu, the Qin army didn’t completely wipe out the main force of chu during the unification wars. As for Qin army. It’s main army are spilt into 2 and station at the boarders of the Qin empire. So when they heard that Qin empire is in open rebellion, they pretty much rebel together and form their own kingdoms
Liu Bang empress is a bit crazy in the head too, she killed Peng Yue (one of the Liu Bang general), minced its meat and distributed it among Han nobles family.
@@toedpens4954 No, Kingdom is the story of Lee Xin and Ying Zheng. They'd be long gone by the time Liu Bang, Han Xin and Xiang Yu took the major stage.
China under Xiang Yu would probably be a lot like Alexander's empire. Fast rapid expansions but would collapse as soon as Xiang Yu is gone. In a good scenario China would be split among his successors and eventually reunite after years of bloodshed. In a bad scenario without Han dynasty's reforms the split become permanent and we end up with a handful of culturally different kingdoms.
And then 1.5 centuries later the bigger China* got their own Liu Bang** *Bigger China as in Rome/Da Qin 大秦 **Gaius Octavius, later taking his granduncle's name of Gaius Julius Caesar as part of his will to adopt him after the et tu brute moment, and then became Augustus, first Princeps Civitatis
Xiang Yu was a great General, but he was never going to be a good Emperor. Liu Bang's ability to discard pride and tradition in favour of pragmatism definitely came from his peasant origins. His ability to take the advise and heed his advisors regardless of their origins, is exactly what is needed to right the tyranny of the Qin, properly establishing the Empire.
Super interesting, especially the end. In a western history, Xiang yu would def be seen as the more valid ruler. I personally see a lot of similarities to Caesar and Alexander the Great, although Caesar was definitely more of a middle ground between Liu bang and Xiang yu. Even the way Xiang ran his kingdom was similar to Caesar and Alexander. as in, with a core of elite soldiers who were fiercely loyal and well provided for. Although that seems a bit more like coincidence when I say it out loud.
For last question. No. It would be another Qin kingdom doom to failure because peasant would revolt again and war would be everywhere, and people would not be even a bit of free.
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I love the situation liu bang got in.
"So what's the punishment for being late?"
"Death."
"And what's the punishment for rebellion?
"Death."
"Fuck it." ⚔️
In facet, the story depicts another rebel leader Chen sheng.
Liu Bang: "Well that's an easy choice."
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Happened to both of them.
but being the leader of rebeallion can lead to the death of whole family of liu bei， which is another reason why xiaohe refuse to be the leader
Liu Bang is freaking hilarious. I love this guy; it just goes to show that Max charisma and max luck is and always has been the most busted build irl.
I’d say his victory over Xiang Yu was the victory of statesmanship.
You guys should check out 王的盛宴 The Last Supper (2012) movie, it's about Liu Bang's life and it's beautifully done.
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@@7EvanPAC789 Cool story
P.O.V. you have plot armour
The way you present history is funny, entertaining, and highly informative. In all honesty the trademarks of a great story teller! Thankyou for your hardworking and talent.
I love Han Xin story.
He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war.
He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn.
So he picked a side and seal his fate.
As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin.
Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises.
The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology.
Liu Bang - The Peasant Scoundrel Who Founded the Han Dynasty. (Complete Series)
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Move it!
so Liu Bei's child throwing technique can be traced down from his ancestor Liu Bang. :D
It's in the family!
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Liubei is like uncle of auntie of uncle of brother here and there relative, not sure still related
For different reasons though. 🤣
You are a genius LMAO XD
This video is fun, and also very accurate. You really captured Liu Bang's lovable rogue image.
The "official colors" of previous dynasties stem from Han Dynasty religious philosophy. Each of the five elements was identified with a color: red=fire, black=water, yellow=earth, blue=wood, white=metal. The five elements and their colors were then applied to every aspect of life, including history. In Chinese mythology, the first five kings were divine beings who could each be identified with a color and element: Blue Emperor Fuxi, Flame Emperor Shennong, Yellow Emperor Xuanyuan, White Emperor Shaohao, and Black Emperor Zhuanxu. The elements are also linked by a birth and a destruction cycle: fire creates earth (ash), wood creates fire, water nourishes wood, metal melts into water, and earth hardens into metal. The Xia Dynasty were descended from the Black Emperor, who was aligned with water, and thus the dynasty itself is aligned with wood and identified with the color blue. The Shang Dynasty was able to defeat them since they were descended from the Yellow Emperor and thus aligned with metal, which destroys wood. The founder of the Zhou Dynasty was claimed to be the chosen child of the Blue Emperor, and thus his dynasty was identified with fire and the "official color" was red. The Qin Dynasty claimed descent from the White Emperor, who was aligned with metal, and thus for Han Dynasty philosophers, their black clothing was an expression of their water alignment. Liu Bang was thus the chosen one of the Red Emperor/Flame Emperor, and being born from fire, his dynasty would be aligned with Earth.
The yellow dragon will replace the Han. Yada yada.
Wasn’t Han dynasty aligned with fire (red)? IIRC that is the reason why the yellow turbans wore yellow. Yellow (earth) replaces red (fire)
Some say Liu Bang is just lucky, I beg to differ. Yes he did have some luck but his success was not only due to that. Compare him with XiangYu. In XiangYu’s crew, he was the most capable one. His ego wouldn’t allow anyone else to be better either. He disregarded his own advisers and went on his own way. This led to his eventual demise. On the other hand, Liu Bang wasn’t the most capable one in his crew. In fact he surrounded himself with people who were either smarter than him, better at fighting than him, better at logistics than him or better at commanding troops than him. He was willing to trust and use his people well. He listened to his advisers - Zhang Liang and Xiao He and even trusted an untested general with a reputation of a coward, Han Xin, to lead his troops. He was willing to swallow his pride to achieve success. Moral of the story - Don’t be the most capable one in your company. Surround yourself with more capable people than you whom you can trust. Earn their loyalty and learn how to use them properly.
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He may can’t lead soldiers, but he can lead generals
This may be true but I'd hate living this kind of life. I'd rather be a capable and competent person who can do things and achieve greatness on my own, rather than relying on others to do them for me. I'm more of a doer than a sayer. I'd like to be out on the battlefield, be in the thick of things and do things on my own than sitting back in my comfortable palace only giving commands. I suppose each persons has their own path that only they can walk which makes them uniquely them.
@@VersionBest Organizing people, listening to their inputs, choosing whose ideas have more merit, and which course to take is a skill as well. You may not be the best engineer, the best scientist, the best labor organizer or the best logistics manager, but if you're capable of looking at the big picture and fitting the information and ideas than each of those people will provide you, you're providing something really useful to the whole, and a person so blinded by their own ego that cannot accept someone else's superiority in some areas is unfit for that position.
Like how CEOs are these days. They just know who to employ; they're may not be the ones with the actual engineering brains
@@VersionBestbro the man literally unified China wtf are you doing? 😂
This is almost as interesting as the Three Kingdoms era. Absolutely love Chinese history.
Not just dynasty or emperor, even people like Song Ci, the content of Shan Hai Jing, Taoism, Gou Jian and more, are all interesting.
I'd honestly love to live during this time and be a warrior fighting on the side of righteousness and protecting my homeland from intruders.
Liu Bang’s life story is ridiculous, it’s like a tabletop game with someone who keeps getting 20’s on the charisma checks.
When the Rogue/Bard is the party leader
Your videos have really shown me that politics and warfare have progressed about the same everywhere on Earth. Its kind of amazing that anyone got anything done for most of recorded history. Paranoia must have been so normal for any elite.
Proud to be a descendant of Liu Bang!
Turns out the beginning of the Han Dynasty is as fire as the end of the Han Dynasty
I never had so much fun learning history. this channel is just amazing.
Han Xin was thought to be one of the greatest generals of China, and he was renowned as “the Xian of War(兵仙)”. Also I found your work very good and attractive, even when I am a Chinese and had learned all these history lessons back in school.
So is Bai Qi
The Troop Hermit....quite a man indeed.
Sorry that there's no new content this week, I have been sick since the start of the week, and I wasn’t able to complete a new episode on time. But the good news is that there is going to be a massive episode next week on Zhang Qian’s tour across the Eastern half of the early Silk Road.
Feel better soon!
Get well!
Can't wait
It's alright CJ, your health comes first.
Can you please do Lui Bei, Cao Cao and Sun Quan - and make reference to the differences between romance version and historical records (lol total war reference!)
Xiang Yu is a boss level alpha badass, but Liu Bang is a survivor.
Liu bang is a great leader while xiang yu is great warrior he can be a great general not an emperor
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@@theendisnear5733 He doesn't want to be an emperor. They have overthrown the Qin empire. He wants the world ruled by kings. Not one single man.
Liu Bang was the Chinese Littlefinger.
@@year111 No he's not. Littlefinger was never a good leader. There are not very many people who want to follow him. Liu Bang is like Napoleon. People love him and want to fight for him. And most important. He can lead his men from one victory to another. Liu Bang is the definition of a leader.
Who drew these figures for you? The clothings and armour are historically accurate, whoever made them done a really good job
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I love Han Xin story.
He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war.
He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn.
So he picked a side and seal his fate.
As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin.
Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises.
The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology.
Liu Bang - The Peasant Scoundrel Who Founded the Han Dynasty. (Complete Series)
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I just feel that Liu Bang's face is very consistent with our impression
I think his name is Ray. History Bros said so on another video.
a really good documation (documentary animation). i've seen documentaries that are mellow or boring, but this has good energy!
30:13 Xiao He, what a legend; still smiling even when Liu Bang's Dad is about to be chopped up and made into soup.
Liu bangs dad was literally also smiling
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He actually thought it was hilarious; he knew that it was a ploy.
This is incredibly charming. After my time with Dynasty Warriors, the 2010 Three Kingdoms show and the latest Total War title, its good to see someone's more cynical and light hearted take on historic events of China's antiquity ages.
Chen Daoming, a Chinese actor, has played both Qin Shi Huang in Zhang Yimou’s movie, Hero, and Liu Bang, founder of the Han Dynasty, in the TV series, King’s War. In the King’s War TV series, Liu Bang’s rival, Xiang Yu, is played by Peter Ho aka Lu Bu in Three Kingdoms 2010
i watch that series, thats why i'm become interested with han-chu contest, with many familiar figure (from three kingdom 2010) that series become more fun to watch
Sounds like Peter gets type cast.
@@Sacrilege83 not wrong, he's the tragic pretty boy lately, he's playing Zhuge Zhan soon too apparently
King's War was really well done and I think it is the most accurate portrayal of the story. If I was Han Xi I'd have 2 options choose loyalty or force a triumvirate.
Han Xin is essential in war time. He's too popular and scary to keep around in peace time. If I was Han Xin, I would grovel and act more like a buffoon to downplay how dangerous I was much like Liu Bang did to Xiang Yu.
Very accessible Chinese history. Thanks for making this video!
how liu bang sent an archer to kill three of xiang yu's soldiers always got me, pure shithousery from liu bang
I like the hats they used to wear. I think humans learned all their fashion style by watching birds and animals
LMBO! I really need to learn more of Ancient Chinese History. When Lui Bang's rival said"ha ha"! Killed me like the kid that says this in the Simpson's! Well done, Sir!
Wow, SUPER impressed by how talented you guys are! Great video, and super funny too! Looking forward to what you cover next 😄
Idk the full historial fact. But this guy is at the right time and place, with his charms, of course.
Many things are at the right time at the right place. In fact no great people exists without an equally great circumstances that propel them to greatness
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Liubang, Hanxin, Xiangyu is the begining of Han dynasty. The end of Han dynasty also has Three kingdom story. What a rich history...
The first book in the dandelion dynasty really is a retelling of what happened here, but the other books are totally original from what i can tell. Thank you for this.
This channel is criminally underrated.
Son of a dragon, likes red, is late for work and starts a revolution because of that? Liu Bang is my man for sure!
Nah, usually Royalty use golden yellow color or some kind of yellow color, therefore non royal completely forbid wearing Royal Yellow during olden days it was a serious crime if anyone found dress in Royal yellow, the punishment was not just that individual's death, it may even lead to the whole clan's family members execution (we are talking few hundred to a thousand individuals here), as for red, that is a very typical Lunar New Year color, the myth said each year at Lunar New Year eve, a monster called Nian will come out to destroy things even eating children, the only way to fend it off it is by wearing red and do fire cracker, make a lot of loud noise, therefore Chinese lunar new year always noisy, full of red color, lot of fire cracker. Red also represent happiness and fortune, brings luck, during wedding the marry couple often dress in red, the whole bridal room also red, red pillow case, red bed sheets, red blanket, just red red red.
During lunar new year, grown up often give red packet to non marry individuals or their young children for luck, in new year eve, parents will put red packet under children's pillow, this is said to be helping children to grow faster and heathier in tradition, therefore red it is an extremely important color in Chinese culture for few thousand years.
@@eveleung8855 - I'm aware that red has many meanings in Chinese culture. I still happen to have a preference for that color since I was a kid.
@borray s - I thought he kickstarted a Revolution and won. After he reached power he was rather disappointing in some aspects but who isn't?
@borray s - That's a leader who knows how to delegate (and also got himself the best wife, and some other allies, what is a merit as well).
I'm fascinated by ancient China history . So far, I liked Liu Bang's character the best ❤
Very well made, i didn´t know about the beginning of the Han Dynastie and that Liu Bang had such a interesting rise to power. I appreciate the entertaining style.
Great after this Video i want to play Total War Three Kingdoms again.
I suspect this story has been made into a movie(s) it is amazing! Liu Bang is just such a interesting character. A scoundrel and cheat you can't help but sort of like. I am surprised you didn't mention Liu Bang's last visit to his home village when he got drunk with his neighbours.
I recommend you watch a Hong Kong's TVB series based on this called "The Conqueror's Story". Though it was low budget, but it has a very good romanticized, dramatic and humanatarian storytelling.
Yes, many version 。 recommend this version most best 《楚汉传奇》
Kings war - Netflix
Liu Bang was so charismatic that even now me, a Germanic descendent of American settlers a world away over 2000 years later likes and admires the guy! What a boss!
As my understanding as a Chinese, Xiang yu is a damon. What he did was described "咸阳三月火，骸骨乱如麻，哭声惨怛天日，而眉容不敛，是必铁作心肝者。" in Chinese. However, he is also one of the most powerful people in our history. He is a young man, imperious and unpopular. But he has also ruled the whole country for 4 years, only on his own. Just because that, he had borned with a special kind of intuition which can always help him find the weakness of his opponent on the battlefield. Through this intuition, he can kill 200 thousand of best cavalries with 50 thousand soldiers, and beat 600 thousand of eneymies with 30 thousand cavalries, which is extremely unimaginable.
These presentations are so worth watching. Well done! Thank you.
this is good thanks for the engaging history lesson the best and easy to remember
Why am I teary eyed?
Liu Bei: i wish that i can be as successful as my ancestors
This is why Chaotic Neutral is superior to Lawful Good.
Yes, you're funny
he did inherit some traits from his ancestor Liu Bang, like throwing away children. :D
@@jansandman6983 but Liu Bang's kids did not suffered from brain trauma
@@jurtra9090 nevertheless he threw em out of the carriage to lose weight for gaining more speed in escaping :D
Liu Bang, that guy act like he's the straight ancestor of Liu Bei
It's the other way around, with Liu Bei trying to emulate his ancestor Liu Bang.
They both abandoned their family's to the enemy.
Imagine Liu Bang close relative got killed. Just like Wu did to Guan Yu.
Liu bei gonna turns into a monster.
They're blood related
Liu Bei is, indeed, a descendant of Liu Bang. It's not a coincidence that his kingdom is called Shu Han.
The different is Liu Bang can teach his son as good ruler unlike Liu Bei haha
It’s ironic isn’t it? A Chinese from more than a thousand years is the epitome of the American Dream. A farking peasant who rose up to become an Emperor. One whose dynasty lasted several hundred years and one that ethnic Chinese later identify themselves with - Han.
That s a shining example of meritocracy and pragmatism in Chinese culture
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I remember read Hong Kong comic called 'Legends of emperors'. They portrayed Liu Bang like an asshole who love to drink and womanizer (also generous). The exact opposite of Xiang Yu. Exactly you mentioned. At the end stronger build body cannot defeated brilliant strategy of Liu Bang during Chu and Han Contestant. At the end Xiang Yu killed himself and the story continue with Xiang Yu's soul looking for bodies in next centuries to vengeance and be an emperors. Until he managed to possessed the body of founding Song Empire. Basically it's a very good comic. That's made me love history so much!.
Sounds cool
Xiang Yu is more of a general and warrior while Liu Bang is politicians.
@@TheExtraterrestrial99 Xiang yu was cruel same like Ying Zheng. One instance he killed former Qin army whereas Liu Bang was benevolent.
@@pangeran92 Liu Bang also has history of massacre the citezen together with Xiang Yu when enter the city. It just his army was smaller that time so less kill count.
His army also did several times massacre, just not by him but personal act of his general.
Liu Bang also has history of killing off his subordinate that contributed a lot for his dynasty.
@@pangeran92 He just a lot better at promoting himself and his army than Xiang Yu. He is a true politician.
One monumental implication for Liu Bang establishing a dynasty has and will continue to influence the fate of China.
That anyone regardless of their background could found a new dynasty.
In the west, many call their daughter, Princess. But they dont call their son Prince as readily. Why?
In the west, the BLUE BLOOD is upmost in claiming the throne. Ordinary people are not good enough at all. So how could ordinary people get anywhere possible to have their offspring to claim the throne? Marrying one's daughter into the royal family and preferably the crown prince.
In China, before Liu Bang founded his dynasty, everyone of the founding king/emperor of all the dynasties was a member of a royal family or had high noble blood. No exception. Not one exception for over 2,000 years of Chinese history till the time of Liu Bang.
All of subsequent dynasties formed by ethnic Han Chinese people had those born as commoners as their founding emperor. No exception.
And rebellions by ordinary people happen frequently often due to this belief that they too could be another Liu Bang.
That is, as long as China is not fully democratic or had an authoritarian regime, it will face rebellions sooner or later.
39:50 hes good to his troops, thus earning their loyalty. But hes petty when dividing prize, thus his lack of support amongst other warlords.
The MOST important legacy of Liu Bang is one fact that all Chiness, by the time they are 6 yrars old, understand. That anyone could set up a dynasty and be the emperor of China.
That one could be from any background to become one. No need to jave royal blood, from aristocracy, or even educated.
In the west, many patents use the term 'princess' on their daughters. We are fascinated by the like of Princess Kate in the UK.
Kate is a commoner. She is married into the royal family. Our fascination about her is based on the fact, in European momarchy, being Blue Blooded has to be the minimum requirement of becoming a monarch.
Her commoner status means that marrying one's daughter is the only way any commoners or those without royal blood could aspire to have offsprings that would be blue blooded.
Since William the Conqueror, all but one English kings and queens have had the blue blood of William the Conqueror in them.
Henry 7, father of Henry 8, was not born a royal. His widowed mum did marry the the then king. His wife however was a royal princess. That's how he claimed his legitimacy and the fact that his offsprings would have blue blood.
Before Liu Bang, all the founders of dynasties had been born into royal status of their home state. No exception.
The 'first' emperor pf China was born into the royal family of his home state.
In China, since Liu Bang, all of the long lasting ethnic Han Chinese dynasties have been founded by commoners. (dynasties founded and had royal family that's of ethnic Han)
The Jing dynasty in the mid 300's. The Song dynasty in mid 900's and the Ming dynasty in mid 1,300's were all founded by commoners.
But all of the long lasting dynasties not founded by ethnic Han Chinese all were flunded by those born into the royal family of their home state or their family had title of a king vassal to the emperor.
The implications and consequences are many but the most important is the belief that anyone from any background could set up a new dynasty and become the emperor of China.
Therefore for over 2,200 years, rebellions and revolts have been the norm in China. Many want to try their luck.
This is one of the main legacy of Liu Bang .. In term pf history of changing dynasties, it is perhaps the main factor.
Ask why the CCP regime is so paranoid about dissents in China.
Ahhhh this has helped me watch King War, thank you bro
The main character of Ken Liu’s Dandelion Dynasty books, Kuni Garu, is based off of Liu Bang. The entire main conflict of the first book is an alternate retelling of the rivalry between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu.
22:32 in moments like this I just can't help but smile, love this
Xiang Yu is incredibly badass, I did not know the man went this hard.
THIS SHIT IS LIT ALL THE REVELATIONS AND PLOT TWISTS, I SWEAR A SOAP OPERA COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH HALF OF THIS STUFF!
Man, Liu Bang was probably one of the most fun rulers that ever existed.
Need to watch the Kings War on Netflix. It’s a great movie that told this story well.
@Soulwalker Young Xiang Yu in King's War was protrayed as a tragic hero. King's War was as much of a story of Xiang Yu's downfall as much as it was about the struggle between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu over the fate of an empire. His downfall in the series arguably started when he allegedly massacred 200,000 Qin soldiers that surrendered.
King's War was really well done and I think it is the most accurate portrayal of the story. If I was Han Xi I'd have 2 options choose loyalty or force a triumvirate.
@Soulwalker Young The definition of hero has changed over time. In the context of Xiang Yu, he is the Greek tragic hero. He had charisma, martial prowess, and good bloodlines, all considered heroic traits. He was also arrogant, simple minded, and doesn't listen to sensible advice (see Fan Zeng). Those flaws were what made Xiang Yu a tragic hero.
It is highly unlikely that what historians wrote about Xiang Yu is accurate considering the people were probably biased after defeating him. The winners are the ones who write History. On the other hand what is written about Liu Bang is probably exaggerated since he was the First emperor of a dynasty.
@Soulwalker Young
"In order to justify the rule, the enemy would have to take all the blame. Historians are but tool for propaganda"
Chen Gong (The Ravages of Time, manga)
A butcher and a warrior hmm that sound like someone who fend off cao cao big forces at changban bridge
When his advisor who advocated for the recreation of Han left for Haan I’ve never been this shocked
What do you mean? Zhang Liang wanted to restore 韩(han) and Liu Bang let him go, but after Xiang Yu murdered the king of 韩 Zhang Liang decided to come back and help Liu Bang the king of 汉(Han).
@@axiemeisterl6645 Thanks. At first, I thought Zhang Liang wanted to restore the same Han Liu Bang was just coincidentally gifted to. Didn't realise they were two different kingdoms.
Han Xin made a right decision based on conscience. If he made himself king, there would be constant war. If he defect, may not be a good choice either. Xiang Yu can lead battles, but administrating an empire needs a whole new skill sets and be willing to adapt.
One of Xiang Yu's critical mistake was to kill all the 200,000 surrendered Qin POWs. It was a golden opportunity presented on a silver platter. He had 3 choices:
a) disperse them into smaller units and integrate them into his own army.
b) keep them together but use them as vanguard under his own officers and NCOs, albeit abit of a risky move, coz they might turn on him.
c) Let them go, in hope that some of them might stay as a form of gratitude. Coz in those days, being in the army was guaranteed paid in form of food rations. This is the most risky of all, as they might defect to Liu Bang, bolstering his forces.
I'II choose B, becoz they cannot be fully trusted. As I do not want to risk most of my own men, but I need the numbers as well.
Keeping them together would have been more dangerous. These were still imperial troops and the fact that liu bang kept the emperor with him, these men could be easily swayed to turn on xiang yu. He should've killed liu bang straight up in hong gate or let him die in the hongmei banquet.
@@j0hncarp I disagree, you don't understand the situation in a civil war. The last Qin emperor was a total wimp. Those surrendered Qin troops would likely to accept the offer, because it would ensure themselves do not starve to death.
Starvation and famine is a common occurrence, esp in civil war. Say even if only 10% accepted, it would make a difference as they are already seasoned troops and do not require to train from scratch. Killing all 200,000 is a big NO-NO.
Easier said than done. I would say it’s just Xiang Yu doing Xiang Yu things.
Killing surrendered troops is a great way to ensure no one ever surrenders to you again and that your enemy fights to the last man.
One of your best video
Liu Bang : “shame” what’s that can you eat it
In the Buddhist version of Three Kingdoms, Cao Cao is the spiritual successor of Han Xin, the last Han child-emperor installed by Dong Zhou is Liu Bang, Lu Bu is Xiang Yu and Zhuge Liang is Zhang Liang.
This is an amazing channel, accidentally stumbled across it and now going to watch every single video. Great job you guys.
Liu Bang has been considered the greatest emperor of China of all time. One thousand years later. Another great emperor was born as a nomad said he would follow Liubang and be his general if he was in the same age with Liu Bang. A great man. During 3000 years of history of China. Only four-man can unified China in one single generation. And he is one of them. It's took him 3 years to destroy the Qin empire and 4 years to unification. I lack the word to describe his formidable capability. He is like a successful version of Napoleon consider the fact that the destruction of Qin empire prove the ancient Chinese don't want to be rule by an emperor.
... well don't want to be ruled by an emperor that makes it very easy for you to become a criminal and a slave.
But Liu Bang also an emperor. Qin build a lot of things and try to achieve a lot of things that became a burden for the people, causing the people to against him.
Another also due to they are the one destroyed other countries and unified China, basically by force. Many leftover force/descendant from those countries want revenge and rebuild their country, Xiang Yu is one of those people.
Third, the death of Qin Shi Huang. After his death, the inner circle of Qin spread and each of them wanted to fight for the grab of power by using his lack inability son. Qin fall is not just from outer threat, but inner conflict too.
Destruction of qin empire means people doesn’t want to be ruled by pure force. Han is successful because it combines both Confucius and legalism. Less strict law, yet with more educational efforts and virtual.
@@papercat2599 Yes, what I trying to say is. Because LiuBang himself was a important leader participate in the revolution war that destroyed the Qin dynasty. It's add more difficulty when Liubang trying to unified China and become a emperor himself.
Amazing story telling my man! great work
As for the last question;
Just serve under liu bang. When the battle is won, just go and enjoy life.
Wheb a peasant could conquer an empire, it means hes just that good...and that lucky, n a master in the art of groveling.
22:24 You can see that zhang Fei was clearly modelled similarly with Fan Kuai. Man the parallels between Liu Bang and Liu Bei are insane.
I love Han Xin story.
He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war.
He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn.
So he picked a side and seal his fate.
I wonder refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel.
As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin.
Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises.
The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology.
@Harris Fu 👍 nice read.
Han Xin is essential in war time but popular and dangerous (even if he doesn't act on it) during peace time. It sucks for Han Xin but his death is probably a factor on why Han has a solid foundation.
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Liu Bang's wife (Lü) was a smart, tragic driven craze woman, she was abandoned by Liu Bang during his escape from execution, surviving while taking care of her 2 childrens alone, till she finally united with her husband years later realizing there's another woman (Consort Qi) by his side, who he continue to love more until he died. She was also tortured, imprisoned with her children later during the war too.
Lü gave a lot of excellent advises for Liu Bang to strengthen Han, and dedicated her whole life on protecting Liu's bloodline (except for Qi's side.). Sadly, on her last years after Liu Bang's death, she turn bat shit crazy, cruel, power thirst and extremely paranoid. She murdered a tons of loyalist and create massive tension of the high power of Han. She nearly become the first empress instead of Wu Ze Tian, only had been stopped by her last string of sane for the sake of peace, her very old age and Liu bloodline's safety.
The most fked up thing Lü ever did was poisoned and killed Consort Qi's son, cut off Qi's four limbs, deafen her, blinded her, muted her with poison, and put her into an excretion pot of a toilet for people to excrete on her until she died.
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This world is full of Liu Bang who are successful. I am unfortunately not one of them. :/
Don't be worried about that. Liu Bang wasn't the one who actually founded the Dynasty. It was Han Xin
@@hunggamerofficial3252 what?
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You're telling me you don't know? Cao Cao knew it, and you're using Cao Cao as your profile picture
@@hunggamerofficial3252 yup, I only know of Cao Cao praising Zhang Liang by calling Xun Yu his personal one
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I know what you're talking about. I read that from the novel of Luo Guan Zhong.
However, Luo Guan Zhong wrote a novel to praise the Han Dynasty, so what he wrote did not reflect history.
After reading Chen Shou's records, i realised Cao Cao was nothing like Luo Guan Zhong described
Liu Bang being low born is common sterotype even in China, but he is not some mog farmer, his ancestors were aristocrats, he himself was well educated and served as some small local official, he being low born is only relative to those famous people at the same time like Xiang Yu and Han Xin. Sima Qian held great bias towards Liu family and favored Xiang, his biography for Xiang is double in content length than that of Liu Bang. I have being Xiang Yu fan since childhood, and despised Liu for a long time before realizing how great the bias in Shi Ji could be.
Man, will love to see this as a prequel dlc in Dynasty Warriors.
Xiang yu is such a tragic figue, how interesting
Xiang Yu = Western Han Dynasty
Lu Bu = End of the Han Dynasty/Pre-Three Kingdoms Era
Liu Bang was an example of luck. Man, he was incapable to establish his destiny alone, but he always knew how to utilise his best men. That's when a drunk, maniac Liu Bang built up one of China's greatest dynasties. We call it, the biggest irony of Chinese history.
Luck? Perhaps destiny. Sometimes I remind myself in the modern times whether you become a startup billionaire is also up to destiny.
@@tat3179 Han Xin used to guard door for Xiang Yu. Xiang Yu didn't find his gift, and he left. Liu Bang made Han Xin great general
It wasnt luck. Xiang Yu had many talented people under his service before but he was too arrogant or too stupid to use them ( namely Han Xin and Chen Ping). On the other hand, Liu Bang had a very good eye for talented people(well except Han Xin lol), and he knew how to use them to their fullest potential.
A good leader doesnt need to be a super human that is good at everything. A good leader is the one that can use other’s talents for greater good. Liu bang was good aT that and he won.
It wasnt luck.
@@xjackietranx I agreed with your assertion, but Liu Bang was not that smart. He had brilliant eyes though.
Man put all of his points in luck.
I fucking love your dramatic narration off the wall too funny sometimes
“He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! What was I thinking? But not our Liuby, couldn’t be precious Liuby. And he got to be an emperor. What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had a chance. You have to stop him. You have to…” - Xiang Yu
Fun fact, Xiang Yu chu army are the former main army forces of the kingdom of chu, the Qin army didn’t completely wipe out the main force of chu during the unification wars.
As for Qin army. It’s main army are spilt into 2 and station at the boarders of the Qin empire. So when they heard that Qin empire is in open rebellion, they pretty much rebel together and form their own kingdoms
They are the leftovers. Even after Qin unified China, there still little war here and there, they still fighting with those resistance.
Liu Bang empress is a bit crazy in the head too, she killed Peng Yue (one of the Liu Bang general), minced its meat and distributed it among Han nobles family.
Any Brits here think he sounds a bit like Delboy? When he bluffed his way into to party, that's such a Delboy move.
White Vengeance is the Chinese movie that shows this. Very good movie. Highly recommend!!!!
massive thanks!
Man this would be such a cool HBO series. Like the Crown but with action and stuff
King War
These vids are so entertaining!
I can't help but feel that the author of Water Margin, modeled its main character, SongJiang, after Liu Bang.
The popular Romance of the three kingdoms story is one of my historical favorite.
Liu Bang did keep his promise to pay 10,000 taels.
He paid it 10,000 times over when he became emperor.
I just imagine dude having his arm up his entire life. Holding his sword above his head.
Any idea where you got that cool map image of China shown at 1:05 into the episode? Also, excellent work on this.
This would make an excellent anime.
Maybe Kingdom can reach it?
@@toedpens4954 No, Kingdom is the story of Lee Xin and Ying Zheng.
They'd be long gone by the time Liu Bang, Han Xin and Xiang Yu took the major stage.
@@airstyles1989 just some optimism
@@toedpens4954 well the timeline difference is too long. It'll take more episode than Detective Conan, lol
Read Chinese version of anime called manhua, the legends of emperors.
Love this channel
China under Xiang Yu would probably be a lot like Alexander's empire. Fast rapid expansions but would collapse as soon as Xiang Yu is gone. In a good scenario China would be split among his successors and eventually reunite after years of bloodshed. In a bad scenario without Han dynasty's reforms the split become permanent and we end up with a handful of culturally different kingdoms.
He's the first chinese peasant to become an emperor? So lucky! But he's a good emperor during his time.
I mean to be fair he was also the 4th emperor and 1-3 lasted like 20 years.
And then 1.5 centuries later the bigger China* got their own Liu Bang**
*Bigger China as in Rome/Da Qin 大秦
**Gaius Octavius, later taking his granduncle's name of Gaius Julius Caesar as part of his will to adopt him after the et tu brute moment, and then became Augustus, first Princeps Civitatis
probably a merchant like Lü Buwei who were also a great leader and employed the most talented people from all of the kingdoms.
I came from Linfamy Chanel. Love your stuff! Will definitely recommend
Xiang Yu was a great General, but he was never going to be a good Emperor.
Liu Bang's ability to discard pride and tradition in favour of pragmatism definitely came from his peasant origins. His ability to take the advise and heed his advisors regardless of their origins, is exactly what is needed to right the tyranny of the Qin, properly establishing the Empire.
exactly
Liu Bang is so funny and cute in this video lmaooo
Hope you are feeling better. Stay safe and get plenty of rest
Thanks! I had.
very cool character designs and animations
Xiang yu was a great general and masterclass tactician in battle but Liu Bang was a politician. enough said.
Super interesting, especially the end. In a western history, Xiang yu would def be seen as the more valid ruler. I personally see a lot of similarities to Caesar and Alexander the Great, although Caesar was definitely more of a middle ground between Liu bang and Xiang yu. Even the way Xiang ran his kingdom was similar to Caesar and Alexander. as in, with a core of elite soldiers who were fiercely loyal and well provided for. Although that seems a bit more like coincidence when I say it out loud.
So the story around 38:00 is about Farewell my Concubine?
For last question. No. It would be another Qin kingdom doom to failure because peasant would revolt again and war would be everywhere, and people would not be even a bit of free.
Love the series!
29:11 "IT'S ROMAN TIME." Yeah Baby, Yeah!
0:25 was Liu Bang secretly a Joestar?