Thank you … the late Dr Myles Monroe.. blessings to you for your obedience…. the Kingdom Truth of God’s Word… I pray for your entire family to carry on / out your legacy…
Legacy of a motivational speaker and a liar...who was teaching the church to compromise and avoid being persecuted by preaching a message that is less offensive no cross, no blood, no Jesus because that one offends the sinners???
For my first-time throughput earnest search for insightful knowledge of God's purpose and intention of humanity being as divinely created as children and partners of His extended kingdom in the earth, I am really knew myself well having preceptly received fully what I needed to know more about my relationship with my creator, God bless you in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I❤ you in my deep heart that thank God for your precious words of insightful redemption of souls. Amen.
1 Cor 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,
Read the KJV version - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
- death burial resurrection isn't the gospel - it's the means- How..How How Jesus brought the Kingdom back to Earth and into the Hearts of men The gospel good news the treasure the pearl of great prize...Is the KINGDOM OF GOD
@@kamisesesenico3243 The Kingdom is the rule of God and you can"t have the rule of God without the Life of God. Even though it's the means it's a part of the gospel and you can't separate them, especially since the scriptures teach it. Before God gave Adam dominion He made him in His Image and likeness. When Adam sinned the Kingdom needed to be restored but God's image and likeness as well. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is at hand because the King was here. Jesus embodied the Kingdom then He demonstrated by what He did and the way He lived. Since Jesus is not physically here we receive the Kingdom individually when we believe in Him. We receive His life and righteousness through the Holy Spirit. The Kingdom of God is righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. When the Messiah returns He will set up His Kingdom throughout the entire earth. Everything that has to do with restoring the Kingdom is a part of the gospel (good news). That's why Jesus didn't separate the two when He spoke to Nicodemus. When you receive Jesus you receive the His Kingdom. Paul's writing to the churches was correcting Kingdom life because it wasn't righteous. Seek first the kingdom and His righteousness. There is only one gospel and it centers around Christ. Paul used the word gospel over 70 times, an apostle who was chosen by God and this is what he had to say. Gal 1:6-10 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. 10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ. I don't care who you are if any other man preaches any other gospel let him be accursed. Don't speak to the scriptures let the scriptures speak to you and the Holy Spirit will teach you all things. In the meantime, we should pray that His Kingdom will come (Manifest) in our lives daily so we can live out the dominion He has given us. Paul not only calls it the Gospel of Christ, in Gal 1:7 but he also calls it the gospel of God, the gospel of His Son, the gospel of peace, the gospel of your salvation in other places. If there is a difference please explain what Paul was talking about in Gal 1:6-10. Also how he used the word gospel (Good News) in other ways.
Galatians 5:11 [11]Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.
6:47 In Paul’s writings, what’s the difference between Paul writing the culture of the kingdom oppose to the message of the kingdom I think Paul is basically telling a us how to be righteous culture of the kingdom
Was I sent to the whole world or to certain people, O Jesus? Jesus: He answered and said: I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24). Ok, why were you sent and what is your message to the Children of Israel for which you came? Jesus: And Joshua answered him, “The first of all the revelations is: Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God is one Lord. (Mark 12:26) Since you say that the Lord is your God, and you are not the Lord, as some say, who are you then? Jesus: I am a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God (John 8:40). And what do you say about those who claim that you are the Lord? Jesus: 22 Many will say to me on that day: Lord, Lord! Did not in your name prophesy, and in your name we cast out demons, and in your name we did many miracles? 23 Then I will declare to them: I don't know you, wake up! Go to me, you who work iniquity! (Matthew 7:22, 23) But you were saying to God, my father, does this not mean that you are the son of God? Jesus: Joshua said to her: “Do not touch me, for I have not gone to my Father tomorrow. But go to my brothers and say to them, “I am most in love with my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.” (John 20:17) There are those who say that you are a god with God, so what do you say? Jesus raises his eyes to heaven, saying, and this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you sent. (John 17:3) You are the one who decides because you are responsible for yourself, so search for the correct religion, for it is the way to your salvation. Read, and research it yourself, and be impartial in your search, and do not rely only on what is mentioned in the Bible, your books and your heritage. This is not considered a search for the truth. You may be mistaken in your choice. There is no shame in searching for the truth in more than one way. Here we have shown the way. And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be among the losers. )The religion with Allah is Islam ( IFLAF.
In Acts 2 Peter preached the same message to Israel. Acts 2:22-24 Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know- 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.
This preacher is sadly mistaken because the first book in the Bible was Roman’s not 1st Corinthians that Paul wrote and Paul is the gentile apostle where the 12 were for the Jews Jesus said himself he wasn’t sent to the gentiles but the lost sheep of Israel
How can Paul preach Christ crucified and not the kingdom. Is there any difference. Paul's teaching and his letters written by the inspiration of the holy Spirit cannot be different from Christ nor his Kingdom. This teaching is strange...
Why were Peter and John Arrested? 4 Now as they spoke to the people, the priests, the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees came upon them, 2 being greatly disturbed that they taught the people and preached in Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3 And they laid hands on them, and put them in custody until the next day, for it was already evening. 4 However, many of those who heard the word believed; and the number of the men came to be about five thousand.
If you are a Gentile than Paul is you're Apostle and Jesus gave him the Gospel that he preached. (But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.) How could anyone declare that we should not read Paul's epistles to get the Gospel?
@@theteamlilly In this same Acts 15, Paul had no authority and was sent to Jerusalem to acts as a representative of Antioch to have their questions answered based on circumcision. If anything, Peter was confirmed based on his message in Acts 11.
@@jahsoul357 The whole reason for the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 is because Paul was upset that they were telling his Gentile converts that they must be circumcised according to the law. Because of Peter's testimony of his dealings with Cornelius the Council agreed that Paul was correct and they should not teach the Gentile converts they must follow the law to be saved. Not sure where you can come to the conclusion that Peter's message was confirmed when the council ended up agreeing with Paul.
@@theteamlilly Easy; because Acts has nothing that speaks of anything that Paul said before or during the Council. You may want to go back and reread this. The Council agreed that Peter was correct based off of his encounter with Cornelius (Acts 10), his testimony at the Council (Acts 15:7-11) and the testimony of Barnabas AND Paul (Acts 15:12). Not really here for arguments or debates but I'm not sure how you could read Acts 15 and come to the conclusion that you had. Antioch sent Paul, Barnabas and "some of the others" to get a direct answer from Jerusalem. (Acts 15:2). At the end of the Council, Paul carried the letter drafted by the apostles and elders.
This verse is for mr. munroe and his the people who follow him. 2 Peter 3:16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
Half -truth and half- lie is a LIE. The gospel of the kingdom is the proclamation that the kingdom of God is at hand, or is here. Paul DID NOT TEACH THIS GOSPEL, knowing that the revelation of the mystery DELAYS the coming of this kingdom to the future. He taught the reign of grace and the GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD. The gospel of the kingdom, and preaching the postponement of the kingdom is different. Paul explained this delay causing interruption in the gospel of the kingdom. Peter acknowledges Paul’s explanation of the POSTPONEMENT OF THE KINGDOM (2 Pet 3:15). When Paul mentions the kingdom, it is always in the future tense. This means the idea of a present kingdom of God come on earth is false. The kingdom of God is waiting for God to establish it in heaven and earth. The mystery of God’s will revealed to Paul how all things would be gathered together in one in Christ (Eph 1:10). This was a mystery before Paul, but describes how God will reign in the fullness of times. God had revealed his purpose for the earth, but had never spoken about the things or positions in heavenly places belonging to the church. Part of the mystery of Christ is talking about the invisible dominion in heaven (Col 1:16).
Heartbreaking the ongoing deception of His sheep, denying Jesus Christ, the Son of God, for an alternative kingdom message. And how ironic his lighthearted joking about being stoned, God's wrath took care of that.
Wow, a real heretic. Jesus does preach himself (John14v6). The gospel or good news is Jesus, the Kingdom comes with Him. No Jesus no life no Kingdom, Know Jesus, know life, know the kingdom. Paul taught Jesus and wrote to help Christians understand how to walk in Jesus, hence the doctrine. Munroe is messing with everyone not to read the whole Word of God. Read and study the Word and u will see Munroes false teaching.
His teachings aren’t false. Paul contradicts a lot of what Yeshua says and was often in conflict with YESHUAS OWN DISCIPLES! They were the one that were eye witnesses! Paul wrote letters in the context of the churches of that time! You take his writings and put it over Yeshua and that in and of itself is false!
Pastor Myles Monroe: Doctrine heavy and kingdom shallow
That's deep!
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@@kingdommindsetleadership so called deep messages that hide the cross ??
Thank you … the late Dr Myles Monroe..
blessings to you for your obedience…. the Kingdom Truth of God’s Word…
I pray for your entire family to carry on / out your legacy…
Legacy of a motivational speaker and a liar...who was teaching the church to compromise and avoid being persecuted by preaching a message that is less offensive no cross, no blood, no Jesus because that one offends the sinners???
For my first-time throughput earnest search for insightful knowledge of God's purpose and intention of humanity being as divinely created as children and partners of His extended kingdom in the earth, I am really knew myself well having preceptly received fully what I needed to know more about my relationship with my creator, God bless you in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I❤ you in my deep heart that thank God for your precious words of insightful redemption of souls. Amen.
Many of us are doctrine heavy and Kingdom shallow…
Post full sermon please.
Thank you for this message
Amazing message
Kingdom insight
Kingdom truth
This message is from his teaching the book of acts
Proverbs 18:13, Proverbs 20:3,1st Peter 3:8-9😃
1 Cor 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures,
Read the KJV version -
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
- death burial resurrection isn't the gospel - it's the
means- How..How How Jesus brought the Kingdom back to Earth and into the Hearts of men
The gospel good news the treasure the pearl of great prize...Is the KINGDOM OF GOD
@@kamisesesenico3243 The Kingdom is the rule of God and you can"t have the rule of God without the Life of God. Even though it's the means it's a part of the gospel and you can't separate them, especially since the scriptures teach it. Before God gave Adam dominion He made him in His Image and likeness. When Adam sinned the Kingdom needed to be restored but God's image and likeness as well. Jesus said the Kingdom of God is at hand because the King was here. Jesus embodied the Kingdom then He demonstrated by what He did and the way He lived. Since Jesus is not physically here we receive the Kingdom individually when we believe in Him. We receive His life and righteousness through the Holy Spirit. The Kingdom of God is righteousness peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. When the Messiah returns He will set up His Kingdom throughout the entire earth. Everything that has to do with restoring the Kingdom is a part of the gospel (good news). That's why Jesus didn't separate the two when He spoke to Nicodemus. When you receive Jesus you receive the His Kingdom. Paul's writing to the churches was correcting Kingdom life because it wasn't righteous. Seek first the kingdom and His righteousness. There is only one gospel and it centers around Christ. Paul used the word gospel over 70 times, an apostle who was chosen by God and this is what he had to say. Gal 1:6-10 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.
I don't care who you are if any other man preaches any other gospel let him be accursed. Don't speak to the scriptures let the scriptures speak to you and the Holy Spirit will teach you all things. In the meantime, we should pray that His Kingdom will come (Manifest) in our lives daily so we can live out the dominion He has given us. Paul not only calls it the Gospel of Christ, in Gal 1:7 but he also calls it the gospel of God, the gospel of His Son, the gospel of peace, the gospel of your salvation in other places. If there is a difference please explain what Paul was talking about in Gal 1:6-10. Also how he used the word gospel (Good News) in other ways.
Excellent truth about the Kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:11
[11]Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.
Hebrews 10:19
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
6:47
In Paul’s writings, what’s the difference between Paul writing the culture of the kingdom oppose to the message of the kingdom
I think Paul is basically telling a us how to be righteous culture of the kingdom
Jesus preached that he was the king of the kingdom. Who is the son of man Dr. You missed that miles monroe
Thanks all for your comments
Please share the whole preaching. Thank you.
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In some of Paul's letters he also shared his own opinions..
In 1 Corrintians chapter 7 for example.
Who would u rather meet, Paul a created being our Jesus the creator?
Full message link give me..please..Holy God bless us.
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@@blac_arrow thank you for uploading this message
Was I sent to the whole world or to certain people, O Jesus?
Jesus: He answered and said: I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24). Ok, why were you sent and what is your message to the Children of Israel for which you came? Jesus: And Joshua answered him, “The first of all the revelations is: Hear, O Israel. The Lord our God is one Lord. (Mark 12:26) Since you say that the Lord is your God, and you are not the Lord, as some say, who are you then?
Jesus: I am a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God (John 8:40).
And what do you say about those who claim that you are the Lord?
Jesus: 22 Many will say to me on that day: Lord, Lord! Did not in your name prophesy, and in your name we cast out demons, and in your name we did many miracles? 23 Then I will declare to them: I don't know you, wake up! Go to me, you who work iniquity! (Matthew 7:22, 23)
But you were saying to God, my father, does this not mean that you are the son of God?
Jesus: Joshua said to her: “Do not touch me, for I have not gone to my Father tomorrow. But go to my brothers and say to them, “I am most in love with my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.” (John 20:17)
There are those who say that you are a god with God, so what do you say?
Jesus raises his eyes to heaven, saying, and this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you sent. (John 17:3)
You are the one who decides because you are responsible for yourself, so search for the correct religion, for it is the way to your salvation. Read, and research it yourself, and be impartial in your search, and do not rely only on what is mentioned in the Bible, your books and your heritage. This is not considered a search for the truth. You may be mistaken in your choice. There is no shame in searching for the truth in more than one way. Here we have shown the way.
And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be among the losers.
)The religion with Allah is Islam (
IFLAF.
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@@girlalhuda1825With all due respect, this ain't your place!
What have you benefited from being Islam & who's Allah always!
In Acts 2 Peter preached the same message to Israel. Acts 2:22-24 Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know- 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.
Amazing message by dr munroe, What is the link or name of the full sermon?
Would like to hear the continuation of this message, thnk u, thnk u🙏🙏🙏
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Thanks a lot. From which series did you get this clip?
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@@theparttimehomemaker Thank you🙏
What is name of the full title of the msg
Please can I get the full message
Which series did you get this clip from?
Full message ?
Where can I get the full message?
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Jesus is God
How can the full video be seen or heard?
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This preacher is sadly mistaken because the first book in the Bible was Roman’s not 1st Corinthians that Paul wrote and Paul is the gentile apostle where the 12 were for the Jews Jesus said himself he wasn’t sent to the gentiles but the lost sheep of Israel
How can Paul preach Christ crucified and not the kingdom. Is there any difference. Paul's teaching and his letters written by the inspiration of the holy Spirit cannot be different from Christ nor his Kingdom. This teaching is strange...
Why were Peter and John Arrested?
4 Now as they spoke to the people, the priests, the captain of the temple, and the Sadducees came upon them, 2 being greatly disturbed that they taught the people and preached in Jesus the resurrection from the dead. 3 And they laid hands on them, and put them in custody until the next day, for it was already evening. 4 However, many of those who heard the word believed; and the number of the men came to be about five thousand.
Peter didn't understand the kingdom gospel. That's why God used Paul more. Read Acts 28, the last 3 verses.
Where’s the entire sermon please?
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How can i see the complete video?
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@theparttimehomemaker what is the title of this message?
Where is the entire message?
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If you are a Gentile than Paul is you're Apostle and Jesus gave him the Gospel that he preached. (But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.) How could anyone declare that we should not read Paul's epistles to get the Gospel?
This would force us to ignore Acts 10 and the fact that Cornelius and his household were saved based on the Gospel that Jesus taught Peter.
@@jahsoul357 Not at all. The reason God sent Peter to Cornelius is so Peter could confirm Paul's message of grace to the Gentiles in Acts chapter 15.
@@theteamlilly In this same Acts 15, Paul had no authority and was sent to Jerusalem to acts as a representative of Antioch to have their questions answered based on circumcision. If anything, Peter was confirmed based on his message in Acts 11.
@@jahsoul357 The whole reason for the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 is because Paul was upset that they were telling his Gentile converts that they must be circumcised according to the law. Because of Peter's testimony of his dealings with Cornelius the Council agreed that Paul was correct and they should not teach the Gentile converts they must follow the law to be saved. Not sure where you can come to the conclusion that Peter's message was confirmed when the council ended up agreeing with Paul.
@@theteamlilly Easy; because Acts has nothing that speaks of anything that Paul said before or during the Council. You may want to go back and reread this. The Council agreed that Peter was correct based off of his encounter with Cornelius (Acts 10), his testimony at the Council (Acts 15:7-11) and the testimony of Barnabas AND Paul (Acts 15:12). Not really here for arguments or debates but I'm not sure how you could read Acts 15 and come to the conclusion that you had. Antioch sent Paul, Barnabas and "some of the others" to get a direct answer from Jerusalem. (Acts 15:2). At the end of the Council, Paul carried the letter drafted by the apostles and elders.
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This verse is for mr. munroe and his the people who follow him.
2 Peter 3:16
as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.
Half -truth and half- lie is a LIE.
The gospel of the kingdom is the proclamation that the kingdom of God is at hand, or is here. Paul DID NOT TEACH THIS GOSPEL, knowing that the revelation of the mystery DELAYS the coming of this kingdom to the future. He taught the reign of grace and the GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD. The gospel of the kingdom, and preaching the postponement of the kingdom is different.
Paul explained this delay causing interruption in the gospel of the kingdom. Peter acknowledges Paul’s explanation of the POSTPONEMENT OF THE KINGDOM (2 Pet 3:15).
When Paul mentions the kingdom, it is always in the future tense. This means the idea of a present kingdom of God come on earth is false. The kingdom of God is waiting for God to establish it in heaven and earth.
The mystery of God’s will revealed to Paul how all things would be gathered together in one in Christ (Eph 1:10). This was a mystery before Paul, but describes how God will reign in the fullness of times. God had revealed his purpose for the earth, but had never spoken about the things or positions in heavenly places belonging to the church.
Part of the mystery of Christ is talking about the invisible dominion in heaven (Col 1:16).
Paul was not an apostle.
My white friend give u up ill act like I don't c u
Heartbreaking the ongoing deception of His sheep, denying Jesus Christ, the Son of God, for an alternative kingdom message. And how ironic his lighthearted joking about being stoned, God's wrath took care of that.
He was too intelligent so the devil took him to his side
Deeep teaching
U scared and desperate I c
Wow, a real heretic. Jesus does preach himself (John14v6). The gospel or good news is Jesus, the Kingdom comes with Him. No Jesus no life no Kingdom, Know Jesus, know life, know the kingdom. Paul taught Jesus and wrote to help Christians understand how to walk in Jesus, hence the doctrine. Munroe is messing with everyone not to read the whole Word of God. Read and study the Word and u will see Munroes false teaching.
And John 15
His teachings aren’t false. Paul contradicts a lot of what Yeshua says and was often in conflict with YESHUAS OWN DISCIPLES! They were the one that were eye witnesses! Paul wrote letters in the context of the churches of that time! You take his writings and put it over Yeshua and that in and of itself is false!