Flite Test - Lipo Battery Bunker
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2014
- We talk about some Lipo battery safety and share some ideas for making your own battery bunker!
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I use the balance program everytime.
I love the idea of sticking them into the cinder block holes with the sandbag over it. If one battery goes up in flames the rest won't! I love it, still a great idea with the battery bunker Josh! I also use the ammo boxes for tools, electronics and food! They are watertight and can take a beating. Thanks for the video guys, keep it up!
One of the best videos I have seen on LiPo safety!
Currently, I have mine charging on an all metal rack (baker's rack) and using old licence plates for the bottom. I do have several larger ammo cans that I have thought about using for charging and storage, but I did not know if it was safe or not. Looks like you guys just gave me my next project!
Great tips and love the bunker idea. A friend had a spontaneous lipo fire this weekend on a camping trip that could have cost him his car or worse if he was driving. The lipo was old and sitting idle in a gym bag with others. One cell decided to party. If I didn't see it I wouldn't believe it could happen like that.
GREAT job on the bunker!! Thanks for sharing your ideas! Cheers!
Thanks for making this hobby safer for us . I really appreciate the learning curve you guys provide. Cheers. Oh, and if Dan Wilson doesn't condone your language please know that many of us do.
**Sees battery explode**
**Gets flashbacks of my old rc plane**
**Sobs**
nice bunker)
Great safety video! Everyone in the hobby should watch this, especially those who are new to lipo batteries.
I use 2 large cinder blocks and charge in the cavity like you showed. Love the idea of putting sand on top.
Thanks for being awesome!
Learned a lot! I thought up the bag of something above the battery to put out a fire, didn't think of it containing something as simple as sand. Looks really effective.
Safety is no accident.
you got that right
Extra good video. Please keep this topic active, creating occasional safety videos. The risk of having lipos in my home really sunk in a while back and I don't believe enough is done to help the flyer keep this in mind. Especially if you fly nitro, too and all your materials are kept together. A lipo explodes and your nitro goes up as well - keep them separate.The idea of putting the bag of sand above the concrete block pocket is excellent, maybe better than the concrete board on top. Thanks, keep up the great info!
In the case of ammo cans, lining them with cement board will insulate the metal can so it will be less likely to transfer heat to the surrounding area.
For years I've used a Treadplate Steel 20x10" toolbox on the floor with pavers brick between the box and floor. Away from anything flammable. Ammo cans for storage.. Great video!
This is my first FT Build! Went to home depot and the clerk mentioned the sales rep for the cement board brought a flame torch to show them how resistant it was to fire.
I put mine together and happy to have it. One of our local guys just had his car catch on fire. Console, seats and interior. He was charging with an inverter. I do that all the time, too. I'm going to make a mini version to charge while at the field with spare pieces of cement board.
Thanks for the great tip! Hope I never have to test the fire capabilities!
your lipo bunk you tube segment rotated to the top of my you tube page. THANK YOU !!, great info
Great video, I have been needing some inspiration in this area!
After seeing a lipo fire at my local track recently, I built my own lipo bunker. I used 2" tall 12"x12" patio blocks on the floor. Then put standard cinder blocks laid on their sides on top so the 2 hollowed out spaces of each block are faced up. That gave me 4 separate compartments total. 3 of them are used for battery storage, 1 is used only for charging. I also added an extended balance lead to my charger so the charger can be kept away from the charging battery. I like the idea of the granite board used in the video, Ill buy some of that to make a top. My favorite suggestion though is the bucket of sand, so inexpensive yet effective counter to a lipo fire. Also the smoke alarm, ill be adding that too. Thank you for the ideas.
Awesome. Covered all bases, excellent.
Thanks for sharing the safety precaution.
Awesome video, thank you. I will definitely be building something along these line in the garage to minimize any potential damage.
As usual a great video. I had my lipo battery bunker built into my house. Now that all of the children have graduated collage and left home I took over the family room. The family room has a fire place with tempered glass doors. I just put my battery in a charging bag, place the bag and charger in the fireplace and close the doors. I have a fire extinguisher handy, but I think I’m going to put a bucket of sand close by as well. Thanks
Excellent ideas. Thanks!
Absolutely wonderful information as always thank you and safe, happy flight
Very informative video, guys. Thank you and thank camera man.
A lot of good advice in this video, thanks!
Raise your hands up if your wife now hates your hobby even more because you want to build this. ;) Safety first. Thumbs up!
***** Tell her that and you might get the ultimatum you don't want.
If you truly believe in Safety First, you really wouldn't ever need a lipo bunker.
lol. watch the news and listen to politicians.
***** My girlfriend heavily supports me! I'm sorry for all those who have un-supportive spouses! I know a guy who just drilled a hole in the top of a safe and drops the battery in while charging. He had extended cables of course. I really need a safe area to charge my batteries!
***** My girlfriend heavily supports me! I'm sorry for all those who have un-supportive spouses! I know a guy who just drilled a hole in the top of a safe and drops the battery in while charging. He had extended cables of course. I really need a safe area to charge my batteries! **originally posted from wrong channel**
Best video ever!!!!!
I just made a charging station out of a very heavy tool box with nothing else in it.
Thanks Guyz
Great Video with thoughtful ideas.
Great tips on SAFE battery charging techniques. I really like the one you payed forward from Utah Flyers. ROG
Thanks for those tips, probably good for many of us to be reminded to be careful with lipos
Balance lead extension cables exist (think HK has them) in case you want to put the charger outside the bunker
it's what i do so I can run balance leads into me fire bags
Very helpful! I love the ideas! Keep it up! Would charging lipos in a glass mason jar with a metal lid that has a small hole cut in the top to run the leads to the charger?
no not good idea as the heat will shatter the glass
Well done guys. Safety is paramount!! Kia ora Jon
Love the snoring LiPo at the end! LOL!!!!!!!
thanks guys like always great video and great info on battery charging
New to the hobby fantastic advice well done lads thank you 😊
Better Safe than Sorry. Sometimes we get carried away by minor things and forget the foremost important things. Congratulations guys, very educational.
Great tips guys, I didn't know about the sand for a lipo fire.
The sandbag over the batteries to let the flame melt the bag and release the sand is an amazing idea
Good one guys. Thanks for the tip about using sand.
Could one store and/or charge LiPo batteries in an old casserole with a lid on it to contain any flames or heat within it?
great vid with great ideas
awesome episode. thanks a lot.
Like other people who are commenting, I always balance charge all my 2s+ lipo's. I only use the charge setting for 1s lipo batteries.
i loved the toolbox idea... muck easyer to store at home
very important info. I just had a fire from a lipo and lost all my RC stuff and almost everything in the house. you can't put them out. great information.
Great video guys, good tips! Lipo fires certainly ARE real, had one myself.
nice video, thanks a lot, gives a lot of ideas how to bild one and is definitely an very important topic to take care if you are in this hobby.
Two words excellent video
Well done. Yes, the big one is .50 cal and the little one is 7.62...
Well, personally, I think that the best lipo bunker is something like an Outdoor Barrel Charcoal Grill with Side Table and wheels (that costs less than a hundred bucks). And the key word here is outdoor, outside - or at least, a balcony. Another important aspect is that you will have fire and smoke isolation (by just closing the barrel), because you can choose to place the grill with nothing nearby... you can open and close the barrel... and some even have a small chimney that will direct the smoke (that you can add more tubes to make the smoke go much higher).
Definitely you guys should try that out and perhaps make a good video about this option, putting some old lipos on fire to see the results.
Thank you for the video about battery charging safely
Appreciate this info, I keep all of mine in 50 caliber animal cans with the rubber seal out of the lid I like the bunker idea
Thanks for the tips :)
hey guys would a xt60 spark resistor help prolong the life of my race drones flight controller or esc by chance? or is this a waste for race drones? I sometimes run 5s
I have a gens ace 2500 mah 11.1 volt . I left it unused for a few years and when i found it , it is slightly puffy . Should i recharge it and reuse it normally?
Very good tip thank you
Good and informative video. Do DJI phantom 2 chargers balance the cells as they charge?
Great PSA for lipos!
Thanks for the information
Good, informative video. I like new guy Alex...good matchup with you, Scott B.
...will it blend?....
...ah....wrong RUclips channel ;)
...but, seriously, it's good to see a well known player in the rc scene promoting awareness and safety message.
Well done guys, really glad I subbed to your channel.
Now I know what to do in case of a fire. Thanks!
Better to be safe than sorry, i only use 2s 3s and 4s lipos atm and i always balance charge, i also keep my lipos at storage voltage so they are less likely to puff, i keep mine in a metal toolbox, i like the idea of those cinder blocks, especially for storing lipos and keeping them segregated so if one goes up, they all dont go up. Great vid guys :-)
I‘m starting to get back in the hobby again after a 25 year break and can‘t get around lipos if I want to fly. I’m freaked out by the thought of a fire. I live in an apartment and have no outside area to charge or store my batteries, nor a garage. My only hope is to not make mistakes and hope an ammocan holds up. I guess you have to be brave in this new world... :D This Vid was very helpful, thanks.
so, I have a few one cell lipos, I was wondering if I still need to store, and watch my batteries charging? they don't have balance plugs, so are they safer than other lipos?
iam planning to go on a month-long vacation, but i have 3 LiPOs at home. 2 of them i never used and i have them for 7 months (i know its not good to buy some, not using them but my RC car keeps breaking). all of them are storage charged. can something bad happen with them? i will put them in my garage, i have nothing flammable there, but is it safe?
What about how toxic the smoke is?
Or was it mentioned in the video and I missed it?
You guys are awesome
Is there a maximum length for balance wires? I want to charge my battery inside an ammo can lined Hardiebacker.
I'm surprised you didn't mention thermal sensors.. I have a Triton 2 and it has a thermal sensor that you put on the battery and it shuts off the charger if the battery gets too hot.
May thanks! Would it work to fill small amp case with sand? Other than being heavy, you could put several batteries in there at once. One battery issue might not set off the others, at least that's the theory...
Does anyone know where I can get one of those charges to balance the battery or does it usually come with one?
This is awesome with CC turned on haha. "Chewed Asian, I passed up the game"
the sand is the best idea. as long as your in the room (and you should be), you can deal with the situation.
Dear flitetest I have a question
Would i need an AMA license to fly at flite fest ?
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Hi everyone. I just bought the E-Flight Apprentice S 15e. I'm looking for suggestions on a charger. Right now I have the one from the box that I have to connect to the car battery. I'm having a hard time finding the charger/power supply which would be good. I currently have 2 LiPo batteries.
I'm just curious, could you use baking soda to put it the fire instead of sand?
if you cut out the oxigen will it still burn or not? Like if I keep it in a air sealed box can it catch fire?
Hey there... I have a quad and just today i ran it without a low voltage alarm... Till now i have run my batteries down to about 10.6v (ie...3s 2200mah pack) and they have still gotten a little puffy and today i ran it down to 9.6v by mistake... What are the chances my battery is going to give up on me ???
Hey guys, what is the small fire detector brand shown in the video? Thnx!
How do you guys recommend safely storing batteries? I currently use lipo sacks, but admittedly overpack them. It gets to be expensive to use 1 lipo sack for 2 or 3 lipos. Is it safe enough to store 4 to 6 in a single ammo can?
Make sure to remove the black rubber seal from the top of the ammo can so it won't catch fire and it could also build up pressure in the can and cause it to explode. If you use a ammo can or other metal container make sure to set it on something that won't catch fire like wood or plastic or line it with sheetrock or cement board.
I only have 2, 4s 2600mh batteries and i bought some 2, $10 metal toolboxes and lined them, twice with scrap concrete sheeting, the 10mm type. store them seperately in the garage
I've always charged my batteries using the balance lead, my charger doesn't have a connecter for the power lead and I wasn't even aware you could do it that way! Is it bad to always balance charge, or is it just slower?
Not bad at all... Just slower. You're actually likely to have better lifespan in your lipo because of the low C charging.
My IMAX can actually do both, so they only discharge by the balance plug but do the bulk of the charging via the XT-60
Get long leads for your charger. That way you won't hurt your charger. Make sure you have proper gauge wires. You can also use pots and pan with heavy lids or put stuff on top of the lids. You can put a ceramic or corning glass plate/bowl inside too. Thanks for get Video!
I have noticed with great interest that there is a Park Zone Sukhoi SU-29MM behind you. Will you guys do a video specifically on that RC aircraft soon? I have heard many great things about it, and since you guys are amazing at reviewing RC planes, I thought it would be likely.
Am i safe keeping 20 lipo batteries together in a sealed ammo case?
They are all 1 cell, and are under 500mAh, and have individual slots in a lump of foam, so i assume they are reasonably safe, but does my ammo case need a vent to stop it blowing up?
I like the cinder block charging bunker idea, that looks safe, I'm just worried about my ammo case going off like a grenade if something happens to one of my sleeping batteries, also thinking it will shoot flames out if i cut a vent in it, so need some advice...
I have one battery that is out of balance by .1 volt, should this one be neutralized and discarded?
i'm going to build a tricopter together with my dad this vacation, wich one would you recomend? Just the scratchbuild you made a vid of or something els? It is my first tricopter and 4th multirotor... I'm going to use it for fpv so next question is, wich fpv system would you recommend?
Well if you just want a tricopter and your dedicated to that I would go with the Bat Bone TRI shop.flitetest.com/multirotors/bat-bone-tri-370-kit/
But if you wanted somthing that later on you could change to a quad or what ever i would go with the anycoptoter becuase that gives you more diversity and its also a little bit cheaper. I hope this helps. :)
Probably buying or cutting your own frame plates of davids tricopter and building from there would be the best. If you want to spend some more money on a frame, you could buy a turnigy talon frame or something similiar. Then 5.8 fpv would be the best to start. If you are curios as to what you need for a 5.8 system i have a video on my channel.
thanks guys!! I I'm probably going to follow David's built and for fpv I might go for a cheap boscam fpv setup with my mobius connected :D anyone has experience with boscam? i might buy a set from banggood but I have no experience at all with fpv setups... Is this one good? I want at least 100 meters of range and i'm going to connect a mobius or a cheap board cam...www.banggood.com/Boscam-FPV-5_8G-400mW-AV-Receiver-RC805-With-Transmitter-TS353-p-918123.html
thanks!
I saw a test where with these ammo cans the fire did more damage with the seal in the lid, when the seal was removed not as much damage
Where did you find the smoke detector you used?
Why would a charger overcharge them with the balance plugs in?
Great tips
Please, please, PLEASE stop recommending salt water for discharging LiPos!!!! All that happens in salt water is that electrolysis corrodes the terminals of the battery before the battery gets anywhere near full discharge. The correct way to discharge a LiPo for disposal is to use a resistive load, such as one or two taillight batteries in series.
Yes, Salt water is NOT a solution for lipos. For a little more than the cost of a couple pounds of salt and takes up far less room than a pail of water you can use this: URUAV Lipo Killer.
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3270863-The-Perfect-Lipo-discharge-tool-URUAV-Lipo-Discharger-how-to-Hack-DIY
Also, DON'T use an AMMO BOX if it is airtight. LiPos absolutely need holes for gas to vent out, otherwise the pressure will build up inside the ammo box, effectively turning it into a BOMB. Ammo boxes are great IF you drill holes in it for gas release.
@@Enzo-kl2vc just take rubber seal out
I have heard from a great community of people that say you can not leave your battery fully charged or that can puff it if I sit over time. When a battery puffs up it damages the cells in the battery. One thing to try. Try a puffed 3 cell pack and a regular 3 cell pack put together o the same plane. Well when you bring it back the puffed pack will have a lot less voltage left than the regular pack.
is ti the silver guy on the flite test logo?
is there a video for that beautiful green yak in the background???
Is that the new Sukhoi SU-29MM BNF Basic by ParkZone in the background?
I got one of the ordinary plastic euroboxes, inside are freezer bags filled with extinguisher granule. Here in Europe the brand ist called "Extover" or "Fireballs". Basically "foam glass balls" that are melting at high temperatures, drawing energy from the fire and extinguishes it. Costs around 50€ and I got a storage with a passive fire extinguisher.
This is a must guys. I had one blow up on me in the kitchen. Lucky for me I have granite benches and a fire alarms and fire extinguisher, mind you I'm still cleaning bi-carb powder around the house. But hay I still got the house. At the very lest get a charge bag.