They stay in the game and can continue free roaming. There are also cutscenes that basically play in the world, the second player can then interrupt them leading to some hilarious cutscenes
@@KatWithCigarette Oh so they couldn't be watched with the other person? Hmm. Is the mod still in active development or is it open source? Would be cool if that was improved.
@@DarkViperAU There is an option to sync cutscenes across players, but it's unstable and usually crashes. Frankly not sure about it's development or even it's open sourceness. Was just happy enough to find a way to screw around in gta missions with a friend so i wanted to share it :D
On some days it just doesn't work. The GFWL invite goes through but when the client accepts they get the message "Unable to join game." We tried again the next day (I had to insert a new product key) and we were able to play together. Now (I had to insert another new product key) we're having the same issue as before.
ayo bro. a lot of respect and one love for this video. we tried to launch a game and it works great, but i got a couple questions - can you help please, if u don't mind? is there any way to get working phone for player 2? (client side) what to do when story mission was failed? restart the whole lobby or something else? any way to do missions together (host and client side) with separate NPC, story cars, tasks, enemies and etc.?
No idea about the phone. check if there are any settings in that F7 menu to enable a phone in multiplayer. If not, then probably only the host can use it. When a story mission was failed, it's the same as in singleplayer, host can use their phone to just restart the mission instantly or you can go back to the mission marker/starting point. Not entirely sure what do you mean by separate NPC, cars, tasks, enemies? When you play in this way shown in the tutorial, you can play same missions but coop, together. You can drive different cars and shoot same enemies. Could you explain more in depth what exactly you want?
@@KatWithCigarette thanks with responce man the last thing about separate missions, i meant if there any way to play missions for both players at the same time. if u get my idea right- i mean that for example there can be mission from Roman and Bruce. Can player 1 and player 2 somehow start both missions and play it on the same lobby game?
some of these arnt necessary, There is a basic downgrader that installs most of what you need, with the only mod being the trainer menue. GFWL works just fine, people joining often dont need to be in multiplayer for it to work either
Me and my friends are struggling to log in to the games for windows live consistently. Works rarely. Mostly error codes and unable to login or download profile/go online.
ok so i got the trainer menu to open with F7 but it wont move or select eny of the options? i tryed to follow you step with pressing 8 2 5 and 0 to do those things but nothing happends, and it wont launch in Multiplayer maybe thats becouse i play on Lan Matches becouse i cant get the Windows Live acoundt thing to work and meny says it dosent work enymore
why dont i have the window in the program "move gta 4 to another folder" as this is the only other thing i can try to fix as my game opesn then just closes after the downgrade and fixPCid thing.
There might be a config file where you can rebind navigation keys, check around gta 4 folder if there are any zolika .ini config files with such a setting
Tried it with a friend. However, the game crashes in cutscenes when Player 2 interrupts it like for example the cutscene where Roman gives Niko his phone.
Yes, some cutscenes will lock up when interrupted. I think there is even a mission that will crash consistently no matter what, so you will have to play it through singleplayer to continue.
Hello, me and my friend followed the tutorial and got it to work on the first try, but then the next day he could not receive/see my messaged anymore and vice versa, do you know anything about this please say yes we've been struggling for 2 days now
Seems like a lot of people are having this issue recently. What if even they don't get an invitation, perhaps they can go through GFWL and just find something like "join game"?
This mod is a blast but there's a small thing I was wondering if there is a fix for, the time of day advances when you die if you're the second player, can you lock it to only change when "Niko" dies so the time is the same for both players? Or a "sync time with host" option?
I don't know if there's a way to automatically do it, but you can just open up the mod menu and manually set the time. You can choose preset times like midnight, morning, etc, or you can set it to the exact minute if you wanna go that far. Its not too much of a hassle, assuming you're not dying very frequently
i dont know if you still check comments but got everything set up ready to go when my friend joins it crashes back to desktop on him any fix for this ? or missing something thanks
I do check comments, but unfortunately I usually don't have what to say. It's been quite a while since I played it myself, so I don't know if there are any new issues with it. Same with your situation, I just don't know what it could be. Sorry :(
Hi, thank you very much for the video, was very helpful! I have an issue tho, every time I load the game save at the end of the tutorial my game crashes to desktop. Any fix to that? Thank you!
UPDATE: i confirm that I’ve messed up something, now I’ve redone everything and works fine! We noticed just one small issue, the client doesn’t get a wanted level… is it fixable? Thanks
Ended up editing ZMenuIV.ini If you replace these lines with these values it will change the trainer navigation to be the arrow keys instead. MenuUp=38 MenuDn=40 MenuLeft=46 MenuRight=13 MenuEnter=39 MenuBack=37 Now we have a new issue, we were able to login to gfwl last night and now xbox live connection is failing over and over. Any ideas?
For some Reason my Invite doesnt Pop up for my friend in GFWL. We already Tried the other way around but we still cant send any invites or Messages. I really hope u can help me.
This could happen if your friend is not in multiplayer session yet. Make sure that before you invite them that they have used their phone to host their own multiplayer session. Let me know if it helps.
Hello, I have a problem when requesting the GFWL key, because it does not allow me to access your discord channel and therefore I cannot obtain a key for GFWL. I await your response, thank you and greetings.
Hello. a friend of mine is having crashes if he is joining me but i can join his lobby. but the main problem are the crashes when he is in a cutscene or on his phone. how do we fix those crashes?
Is your friends Gta 4 unmodded? Double check the tutorial to make sure your friend downgraded everything correctly. Also don't enable too many silly settings in the cheat menu(F7). I also don't recommend using it during gameplay cus I noticed it crashes often. I also know of a few missions that crash in multiplayer no matter what, so if there is a specific mission that will always crash for you, complete it through singleplayer to continue
@@KatWithCigarette Thanks for the answer! we are not sure but maybe we did something wrong with the custom sync. just the client should have it activated right? and do you know a way to tell steam not to update? we are currently going offline to play, is there a other way?
@@AUSTRIABomberman Not sure about the updates. My steam never tried to update GTA after downgrading. As for custom sync, I don't really remember, sorry, it's been a while since we played it. Try only host and then both and see which works better, if at all.
brother, good video, but when I invite my friend on Windows Live, the invitation does not arrive. do you know what it could be? We need help! thank you!
This could happen if your friend is not in multiplayer session yet. Make sure that before you invite them that they have used their phone to host their own multiplayer session. Let me know if it helps.
@@KatWithCigarette We have tried inviting each other at different times in the process and none of them work... we don't understand it and we don't know what to do, thank you very much for responding
@@KatWithCigarette We have tried inviting each other at different times in the process and none of them work... we don't understand it and we don't know what to do, thank you very much for responding
@@ZzesSYT Shame. Sorry but I don't know what else to do. The only time I had this issue is when friend was still in singleplayer. Does it not show the button to invite at all?
@@KatWithCigarette Don't worry, I know you're trying to help. In Windows Live we are friends, but when the time comes, when we invite my friend he doesn't get any notifications and as I said before, we have already tried inviting each other at different times...
Game unmodded for both of you? Both of you downgraded as shown in the video? If so, try to uninstall the game fully and try downgrading again. Sometimes it doesn't work for me on the first time either, but never with "unable to join the session" sadly, so I can't help you with an exact solution@@marc_smd0484
If the cutscenes are not synced, what does the other player experience when a cutscene plays?
They stay in the game and can continue free roaming. There are also cutscenes that basically play in the world, the second player can then interrupt them leading to some hilarious cutscenes
@@KatWithCigarette Oh so they couldn't be watched with the other person? Hmm. Is the mod still in active development or is it open source? Would be cool if that was improved.
@@DarkViperAU There is an option to sync cutscenes across players, but it's unstable and usually crashes. Frankly not sure about it's development or even it's open sourceness. Was just happy enough to find a way to screw around in gta missions with a friend so i wanted to share it :D
what is bro doing here?
@@mikrofalowkagaming4809 lol literally
This, is the best thing to ever exsist. Why would i even bother with GTAO when this masterpeice exsists
This is insane to setup lol. Hope we'll find an easier and more stable way to play in coop in the future 🙈
Thanks for the video though!
On some days it just doesn't work. The GFWL invite goes through but when the client accepts they get the message "Unable to join game."
We tried again the next day (I had to insert a new product key) and we were able to play together.
Now (I had to insert another new product key) we're having the same issue as before.
ayo bro. a lot of respect and one love for this video. we tried to launch a game and it works great, but i got a couple questions - can you help please, if u don't mind?
is there any way to get working phone for player 2? (client side)
what to do when story mission was failed? restart the whole lobby or something else?
any way to do missions together (host and client side) with separate NPC, story cars, tasks, enemies and etc.?
No idea about the phone. check if there are any settings in that F7 menu to enable a phone in multiplayer. If not, then probably only the host can use it.
When a story mission was failed, it's the same as in singleplayer, host can use their phone to just restart the mission instantly or you can go back to the mission marker/starting point.
Not entirely sure what do you mean by separate NPC, cars, tasks, enemies? When you play in this way shown in the tutorial, you can play same missions but coop, together. You can drive different cars and shoot same enemies. Could you explain more in depth what exactly you want?
@@KatWithCigarette thanks with responce man
the last thing about separate missions, i meant if there any way to play missions for both players at the same time. if u get my idea right- i mean that for example there can be mission from Roman and Bruce. Can player 1 and player 2 somehow start both missions and play it on the same lobby game?
@@sanderisdead i see. As far as i know only the host can start a mission, so no
9:09 why is it a must to do that?
For whatever reason the game has a chance to freeze up or just crash if you do it otherwise
Yoo thx broo lyy
some of these arnt necessary, There is a basic downgrader that installs most of what you need, with the only mod being the trainer menue.
GFWL works just fine, people joining often dont need to be in multiplayer for it to work either
In our experience we couldn't join one another if we're not both in multiplayer
Me and my friends are struggling to log in to the games for windows live consistently. Works rarely. Mostly error codes and unable to login or download profile/go online.
Sorry, but I'm not sure on how to fix that other than reinstalling the game completely and then uninstalling any leftover files and trying again.
I'm getting the Unable to connect session error even though I've done all the steps to the letter.
me too
same
i can launch the game and i think its working, but i cant connect to windows live. any solution?
ok so i got the trainer menu to open with F7 but it wont move or select eny of the options? i tryed to follow you step with pressing 8 2 5 and 0 to do those things but nothing happends, and it wont launch in Multiplayer maybe thats becouse i play on Lan Matches becouse i cant get the Windows Live acoundt thing to work and meny says it dosent work enymore
is the num lock button on?
why dont i have the window in the program "move gta 4 to another folder" as this is the only other thing i can try to fix as my game opesn then just closes after the downgrade and fixPCid thing.
thk u my brother
My keyboard is a 65% and I have no num pad and my number keys at the top do nothing for the menu. How can I navigate the menu so I can join or host?
There might be a config file where you can rebind navigation keys, check around gta 4 folder if there are any zolika .ini config files with such a setting
Tried it with a friend. However, the game crashes in cutscenes when Player 2 interrupts it like for example the cutscene where Roman gives Niko his phone.
Yes, some cutscenes will lock up when interrupted. I think there is even a mission that will crash consistently no matter what, so you will have to play it through singleplayer to continue.
@@KatWithCigarette I saw the one video where your friend runs down Roman. How the f*ck did the game not crash?
@@energeticlute3396 the game actually locked up right after. I just cut the clip before that
how to possible roman in bellic and vlad in fight singleplayer co-op
Hello, me and my friend followed the tutorial and got it to work on the first try, but then the next day he could not receive/see my messaged anymore and vice versa, do you know anything about this please say yes we've been struggling for 2 days now
Seems like a lot of people are having this issue recently. What if even they don't get an invitation, perhaps they can go through GFWL and just find something like "join game"?
This mod is a blast but there's a small thing I was wondering if there is a fix for, the time of day advances when you die if you're the second player, can you lock it to only change when "Niko" dies so the time is the same for both players?
Or a "sync time with host" option?
Honestly no idea
I don't know if there's a way to automatically do it, but you can just open up the mod menu and manually set the time. You can choose preset times like midnight, morning, etc, or you can set it to the exact minute if you wanna go that far. Its not too much of a hassle, assuming you're not dying very frequently
Do you need GTA IV from Steam or can it be the pirate one?
@@algocursi2564 i only used the one from steam. Youll have to try yourself to find out
When my friend joins the game I appear as if I were invisible, why?
and on 9:55 do you allways have to do that to host and to join a game?
Yes, everytime you want to join again(or restart the game)
@@KatWithCigaretteYou can save your configurations in the trainer settings.
Hi can i ask a question i did everything alright but when my friend try to invite me to game
The massage is not appear on my screen
I did try invite my friend but it still not appeared
@@prolexz9806 are you both in multiplayer sessions?
Yes we are
I already reinstall the game and doing all over again
i dont know if you still check comments but got everything set up ready to go when my friend joins it crashes back to desktop on him any fix for this ? or missing something thanks
I do check comments, but unfortunately I usually don't have what to say. It's been quite a while since I played it myself, so I don't know if there are any new issues with it. Same with your situation, I just don't know what it could be. Sorry :(
Are achievements working?
Hi, thank you very much for the video, was very helpful!
I have an issue tho, every time I load the game save at the end of the tutorial my game crashes to desktop. Any fix to that? Thank you!
Is it a new save that you made after the downgrade?
I might have messed up a step, tonight I’ll try again and I will let you know. Thanks
UPDATE: i confirm that I’ve messed up something, now I’ve redone everything and works fine! We noticed just one small issue, the client doesn’t get a wanted level… is it fixable? Thanks
@@notamethyst3777 glad its working now :) check sp features if there is a way to enable cops for clients. Other than that not sure
Also, is there a way to reduce the desync?
The menu isn't registering my inputs of 2,5 and 8. Even while toggling numlock on and off.
If you happen to have a different keyboard, try that. Also try numbers' row above the letters on the keyboard.
Ended up editing ZMenuIV.ini
If you replace these lines with these values it will change the trainer navigation to be the arrow keys instead.
MenuUp=38
MenuDn=40
MenuLeft=46
MenuRight=13
MenuEnter=39
MenuBack=37
Now we have a new issue, we were able to login to gfwl last night and now xbox live connection is failing over and over. Any ideas?
For some Reason my Invite doesnt Pop up for my friend in GFWL.
We already Tried the other way around but we still cant send any invites or Messages.
I really hope u can help me.
This could happen if your friend is not in multiplayer session yet. Make sure that before you invite them that they have used their phone to host their own multiplayer session. Let me know if it helps.
If I Want To Comeback with the Vanilla game from steam, will I get All My Saves back?
Don't downgrade the saves and make sure you have a saves backup in case something goes wrong.
@@KatWithCigarette ok thank you
thx dood
its not working unable to join game error
I can't login in GfWL, any idea how to fix it?
It shows an error message with that tell me that there might be networking issues
Hey, sorry for a late response. Unfortunately I have no idea. Have you perhaps found a solution to share with others?
@isnipeyou3534 you just have to log in with a different account
Hello, I have a problem when requesting the GFWL key, because it does not allow me to access your discord channel and therefore I cannot obtain a key for GFWL. I await your response, thank you and greetings.
discord.com/invite/gtrf try this link
Hello. a friend of mine is having crashes if he is joining me but i can join his lobby.
but the main problem are the crashes when he is in a cutscene or on his phone.
how do we fix those crashes?
Is your friends Gta 4 unmodded? Double check the tutorial to make sure your friend downgraded everything correctly. Also don't enable too many silly settings in the cheat menu(F7). I also don't recommend using it during gameplay cus I noticed it crashes often. I also know of a few missions that crash in multiplayer no matter what, so if there is a specific mission that will always crash for you, complete it through singleplayer to continue
@@KatWithCigarette Thanks for the answer!
we are not sure but maybe we did something wrong with the custom sync.
just the client should have it activated right?
and do you know a way to tell steam not to update? we are currently going offline to play, is there a other way?
@@AUSTRIABomberman Not sure about the updates. My steam never tried to update GTA after downgrading. As for custom sync, I don't really remember, sorry, it's been a while since we played it. Try only host and then both and see which works better, if at all.
brother, good video, but when I invite my friend on Windows Live, the invitation does not arrive. do you know what it could be? We need help! thank you!
This could happen if your friend is not in multiplayer session yet. Make sure that before you invite them that they have used their phone to host their own multiplayer session. Let me know if it helps.
@@KatWithCigarette We have tried inviting each other at different times in the process and none of them work... we don't understand it and we don't know what to do, thank you very much for responding
@@KatWithCigarette We have tried inviting each other at different times in the process and none of them work... we don't understand it and we don't know what to do, thank you very much for responding
@@ZzesSYT Shame. Sorry but I don't know what else to do. The only time I had this issue is when friend was still in singleplayer. Does it not show the button to invite at all?
@@KatWithCigarette Don't worry, I know you're trying to help. In Windows Live we are friends, but when the time comes, when we invite my friend he doesn't get any notifications and as I said before, we have already tried inviting each other at different times...
unable to join session error.
Are the npcs synced or are there npcs at all
@@PyroB0t there are and they are synced
@KatWithCigarette ty so much didn't think youd reply
for me it say`s "Unable to join the season" i am the person who want to join my friend`s game
Try being the host
@@KatWithCigarette sadly dont work
Game unmodded for both of you? Both of you downgraded as shown in the video? If so, try to uninstall the game fully and try downgrading again. Sometimes it doesn't work for me on the first time either, but never with "unable to join the session" sadly, so I can't help you with an exact solution@@marc_smd0484
Discord invite is not valid
Does it have to me a copy or can it be cracked?
Text guide says it will work
I'm getting a connection issue every time i try sign in
Did you make a new xbox account?
can i get the new discord link?
there should be a discord link in the gta 4 downgrader
is there way to play with gta connected?
Yeah, I think there are a few videos on how to do pretty much the same just with connected.
@@KatWithCigarette when i seclect "CO:OP Story mode" it asks me password. Help
@@techn9nedanksta When you select it from the F7 menu?
@@KatWithCigarette i selected form gta connected
@@techn9nedanksta I don't use connected, so I can't help you much with it
lochelis tu ? sedejes ? :P
My friends car is ghost
My downgrader is running on offline mode, what do i do
Where does it say it's running on offline mode?
nvm its fixed thank you
my friend cant see the missions and me on the radar, how to do i fix that
@@PGR64 somewhere on the F7 menu there should be a setting to enable/fix/sinchronize blips
@@KatWithCigarette alr thx
This work with cracked?
Don't know, I only used it on bought game
does it work for cracked version??
Never tried it on one, but I don't see why it wouldn't work
@@KatWithCigarette btw does is it work on the regular edition and not the complete edition?
@@vsp.RYXN_ you will be changing the games version anyway with the downgrader, so it should
@@KatWithCigarette goated youtuber
So it works?
Does this still work?
I don't think there were any significant gta 4 updates that'd break it. I didn't test it recently, but it should work
UH I’m cooked bro my whole gta 4 launcher won’t work I reinstalled it bro 😭
Did you delete all of mod files when you uninstalled the game?
@@KatWithCigarettewhat I do now I delete my game files and reinstall the game to get everything back so I’m ok dw
the downgrader didnt installed me the GFWL why is that?