Just want to thank you for all of your awesome videos. I saw you do this build last league and I'm playing it this league, but with some changes to fit my place style. I went marauder instead and went chieftain. I went resolute technique instead of crit because I don't like messing with trying to min/max crit and having to try to get enough accuracy. I also converted the last 50% of phy damage with blackgleam (lets me get lava lash and explosive impact). I've been using build guides for a while now, but I'm starting to expand my comfort zone and started making my own builds or my take on others' builds.Just want to thank you and the POE community again with giving me so much information and the tools to give me the confidence to play my way. :)
I literally was just browsing RUclips randomly and found your guide on the exact same thing I've been theorycrafting for the past couple weeks...my setup will be stronger but I was super surprised to see a video mentioning Champion Duelist class, Blast Rain, Vaal Burning Arrow, Chin Sol, Empire's Grasp, Rearguard, Lioneye's Fall + staff nodes, etc. It's nice to have some reassurance that this build works well (that means mine will work VERY well!). Cheers, great minds think alike!
Just wanted to give thanks for Ziggy for the build. Just hit 70 recently and acquired all the necessary gear and have started up maps on it, very fun build! Love watching the dumb mob AI flail about from the reverse knockback.
+Corbin Dickens i dont see why it shouldnt be atziri viable. If you know the mechanics, it even should be quite easy^^ just pointblank should be respect for atziri herself.
Thanks for the build dude! Im currently using it on my main char and its amazing, it has great sustain, tankyness, damage and the reverse knockback is extremely fun! The items cost way more than its shown in the video but its probably because the sellers are trying to profit off of people that are playing this build :( . Im going for lvl 100 and im really happy with the mechanics of the build , never gets boring. Oh and try not to run curse immune maps as it destroys your sustain(UPDATE: with immortal flesh's huge sustain you can run them and it is an extremely nice belt anyway so you should get it). Also Atziri's step boots seem really good for this build cause you get 16 percent chance to dodge spells so you pretty much have 31 percent chance to dodge/ block spells counting rearguards, decent life, good evasion and 30 percent movespeed which i think its max on boots. ( extremely cheap too: 5-10c )
great funny video ZiggyD, loved it, this looks fun & going to have a go, haven't played a ranger for years so maybe interesting. I've managed to pick up all the uniques for 1C apart from the gloves for 5C.
This thing is an absolute monster; munched Labyrinth in every difficulty without overlevelling at all. Malachai hasn't made me break a sweat. 10/10 would recommend. Bring on the maps...
Tried this build this weekend.. I was so surprise how much i enjoyed it and it was so cheap yet at the same time do so much damage.. I played the standard league hence didn't feel i needed the bow block and would rather just use a blackgleam to convert all physical to fire.
I know this is kind of a old build, however its still very viable these days. I did revisit it lately incoporating a Perseverance Belt into the mix which acctually functions gloriously in this build giving the build permanent Onslaught and an additional damage scaling with armor quality. At the moment the belt acctually gives my character +56% Attack Damage, +20% Attack, Cast and movement speed by itself. The belt also works extremely well togheter with the First to Strike, Last to fall keynode in Champion making the +Damage modifier more consistent. However due to the ignite changes, it seem to be way stronger to run Herald of Thunder and link Blast rain to Added cold and Lightning with elemental damage. Then i just add slower projectiles and swap around concentrated effect/increased AoE depending on what im fighting. The shocking damage aint too great but well, its better then a extremely low damage ignite.
50% more from point blank and 100% more from chin sol isn't 150% more dmg, it's 1.5 * 2.0 = 3.0 or 200% more dmg. Also you get 40% increased accuracy total from two nodes in the duelist start so the build is better than you claim :P
Hi Ziggy! I'm a big fan of your vids! Keep goin man! I lost my main 91 HC ST marauder 2 years ago and quit for that period! Tried this build and really enjoy atm, I'm 51 atm, not goin really full build cause lack of gear but its really fun! You said you really like that build etc. My question is, coul'd you make a blast vacuum 3000a update? :) I would be glad and sure many more would! Ty man! will keep watching for sure!
Not sure if intentional or overlooked, but only the first page of the spreadsheet has relevant information - the three labeled "GEM LAYOUT", "LEVELING", and "MAPPING" appear to be empty templates.
i played a similar build in tali hc but on a scion and using totems with chin sol/point blank/blast rain/rearguard/empires grasp/vba traps etc but without crit and with resolute technique instead. (to make totems work with this build and stay somewhat tanky you just dont have enough passives to go crit. it might work in SC though as you dont get hit very often so the loss of hp/def wouldnt be as bad.) im level 91 in PHC now as a duelist/champion on the same (totem) build but adapted for duelist. if youre playing HC i highly suggest using totems instead as pulling volatiles, bearers, bosses, etc etc towards you is a very bad idea. you also need to grab all totem defense/hp nodes, use spire of stone, and at least one jewel with totem hp/and or res. its pretty slow but very safe. im sitting on about 5800 hp 7.3k armor, 4k evasion, 34% block, 19% spell block perma-fortify and hardly ever get hit as everything is pulled away from my character. (attack speed, aoe, and totem defense is key.) (next up is to reroll as a hierophant and go avatar of fire with 4-5 totems and emberwake + the taming, and converting the staff knockback nodes to work with bows using lioneyes fall. but possibly with a different bow, lioneye's glare etc.) another option is to support the phys side of blast rain and use lioneyes fall to convert the DOT nodes near point blank to function with bows. then knockback with blast rain (or your skill of choice) will cause anything you hit to keep moving and take bleed damage and if you also crit or have ignite % the dot nodes will scale that. lots of options with this build which is why i love it! (30 int/hp/scion totem nodes next: www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/awave/characters )
i have been able to get my crit up to 45 with quil rain and 70 with windripper both with (4 power charges). BR PCOC COC spark EK FP swap out FP for chain or fork for more aoe depending if you have gear that does physical or wed.
honestly I'd recommend respecing into "You have Fortify" after cruel just because Fortify is so good, maybe not in SC but for sure in HC, Fortify makes merc lab much easier IMO
alright boys, Lioneye's Fall costs between 2 - 10c at the moment, stockpile now, list them all for 15 fuses each. cheapest rearguard is 4c at the moment, it's rarely used for anything but block archers, so that price isn't going anywhere. There are plenty of Blast Rain gems up at the moment with 10+ quality for less than 10 chaos as well. Wonder if the prices will change within a few days because of this, most likely not.
Hey ZiggyD, I've been theorizing about a build similar to this one, and I'm just curious. Do you think something like this could work as a permastun build? With Heavy Draw, Stun Mastery, and the node behind Bone Breaker, you can get 29% reduced stun threshold from the tree, and if you go Slayer instead of Champion, you can get another 5% in addition to the numerous silly bonuses from Overwhelm. Maybe use Temporal Chains instead of Poacher's Mark for stun duration, and for single target, use Ice Shot for even more duration (Ice Shot+Stun+PPAD+Hypothermia?? in Empire's Grasp). I don't know if Blast Rain would be the best skill for it, though. Just curious on your thoughts.
Hey +ZiggyD Gaming, I'm trying to figure out how to make your Southpaw in Ascendancy. What sub-class would you choose? Maybe you could make a video on it? It's my favorite build from this channel.
I can see where the programming issue is. Melee enemies in particular have a set distance with which they attack. If they're not AT that distance, then they'll get to that distance to attack. But this is a really simple programming fix. Just change it from AT to WITHIN the specified distance. Ziggy, do you think this'll be patched out? But most importantly... Is it atziri viable? EDIT: Does this happen with vaal cyclone? Because I really don't think it does. And if it does, why hasn't anyone exploited this knockback mechanism before?
The Cheftain and the Juggernaut have around the same tooltip dps, The juggernaut can have the most armor, the Champion have lower and the Chieftain have the lowest armor. The Champion have a bit lower dps with a different passive tree according to Path of Building, so which one would be good? I can't do math with all the conditional stuff.
Hey, Ziggy! I'm trying this build out in Essence Hardcore after ripping my Blade Vortexer and my Juggernaut EQ. When determining the Point Blank modifier, is the distance between you and the target calculated when you cast or when you hit with Blast Rain?
I pretty much thought to do this as well, but since I'm garbage at the game, this is a much better version. Though my tree is awful and I basically have to re-roll.
why vaal burning arrow traps instead of puncture traps? I use puncture trap and shrapnel shot to 1. bleed singletarget mobs hard due to slower proj mutliplier too now and 2. make them bleed for the full effect bcuz of shrapnel shotting and knocking them back from range. I would like to know which is evidently better though.
Hey Ziggy bro, blast rain doesnt have a projectile type on gem so projectile mods wont affect it, neither point blank will. Im like 99% sure ( tho i can be wrong, prove me internet )
+Deephvc Just read the wiki, it explains that projectile damage still affects Blast Rain. So this means Point Blank, Physical Projectile Attack Damage, etc.
@ZiggyD Gaming Hi i am new to POE, not very familiar with the passive tree yet, so I might be wrong on this, but why did you have the 4 points into that bone breaker area ? 3 points are essentially wasted on mace damage, and at the end you are getting bone breaker, is the aoe radius and stun duration worth that much? I can see a lot more options on the tree that could benefit us more from those 4 points. Please enlighten me, thanks, sorry if this is a stupid question.
I'm having difficulty getting elemental resistances capped... I got all the uniques, but then its the gloves that destroys my resists. I need ilvl 75+ for the rest of the items?
Hey Zigg Dizzle, is this build Atziri viable? and just how budget friendly is this? All I have currently is a potato, chewed stale bubblegum, and a small pile of collected belly-button lint.
Ziggy, you mention in the video that your fortify provides 22% decreased damage taken. Since the base reduction is 20%, that's actually incorrect (would imply 10% increased effect). You get 20% increased fortify effect from the nodes leading into Fortitude, so your actual damage reduction from Fortify is 24%, which is higher than you said. :)
What should the end-game DPS look like on this build? sitting around 2k dps (before point blank calcs) at lv63 and I'm curious how high they can get here.
Is there a chance that you could make a video on split crit and what one should do when not doing much single target damage? I don't really find any in-depth guides about this.. all guides basically just talk about the end game and not the level-game. I in fact already died a few times on normal A3 ;O it's pathetic really, but i am also new and i just came from a vortex blade build.
I was trying to make a duelist bow build some months ago and at some point I thought it was pointless since that ascendancy may be the only one that can make it work a bit but wasn't sure if it may survive end game not hving any ascendancy nodes that give you some specific advantge to the build.
Any duelist ascendancy have pros and cons for bow builds. Gladiator can grant extra block and spell block for survivability and if you're using a physical based bow skill like tornado shot or barrage, bleeds and bloody explosions are magnificent for pack clearing (Let's not forget the +10% more phys damage at full frenzy charges). Slayer would grant fantastic sustain and damage. 20% more damage coupled with the 20% culling strike is effectively a 1.5x more damage multiplier to bosses and elites (Estimate based on 1.2 / 0.8). Champion offers some nice movement speed and attack speed bonuses which is fantastic for clear speed as well as the undoubtedly strong defensive mechanic of fortify, which is very difficult to maintain otherwise as a bow build. All of them are definitely end game viable, it really just depends on your preference. Ziggy generally gears toward defensive builds because he plays hardcore half the time and I always tell my friends, your dps is 0 if you're dead.
+trifilosgr The point is it survived - thanks to it's tankyness. That boss hits like an absolute truck and that was in a vulnerability map + it crit crit (you can see from the shock status I got). That would one shot most builds but we survived with not even a very high life pool thanks to great mitigation. So that particular clip says very good things about the build's survivability! :D
yea... but u were like almost dead...that fact it dosent make it a build with great survibillity lol...atleast u cant tell great survibillity, cuz if that is survibillity then i must delete my marauder -.-, it has good dmg YES survibillity? No! bcuz if u had a lag of 2 secs there u would be dead 100% i saw u pop up flask there, so dont deny it, a marauder tho would survive bcuz its job is to survive ;)
its not tanky at all forget about it, but it has great dmg i agree on that but just that and nothingn else, its the same squishy like most builds cuz poe is unforgivable...btw if i did grammar mistakes, oh and i would like to see u make a build scaling in def primarly try and show us how u lvling a mara-witch-duelist or templar in the def aspects of the game, i would rly like to see u doin that, try and get full phys medigation and capped resist and while doin that try to find an entertaining way to make dmg, personally i play mara with 50k def juggernaut and grabbing as much armour as possible and gonna get aurora shield to regen on ES HC league btw.
***** I think you're missing the point. The build is tanky considering not having it's full possible life pool and the fact that it's got no armor and can still survive a phys hit like that. Not saying it's the tankiest build in the game, of course not. But that it can survive some pretty nasty stuff that would often kill an evasion bow character.
For softcore 2.3, would it be possible to do a version of this with a ranger? using perma phasing from raider sounds like it would be pretty fun with Chin Sol.
This video has nothing on the bandit quest rewards. I already killed Oak; is it worth restarting or is 2 passive skills points good too. What would be recommended to put them in?
So this build now goes Slayer for insanly overpowered Culling Strike and massive leech? :D Would you recommend using a Writhing Jar for bosses so you can proc the on kill stuff if they dont summon adds (like the Atziri or Hydra phases where you only have the boss in the room) or ist that to dangerous?
bro I love blast rain...just started poe again..this is the omly champion blast rain build ive found and looks awesome..Ive almost got all the gear..doesnt suppose you could do an update on it?
Hey brother, i´ve been testing this build and its been super fun so far. But i have a question for you, do you have any advice for boss fights like Izaro, what to use instead of vaal burning arrow ? I find it kinda useless since you dont get the charges when you enter his zone,and even if u get some charges, it wont cause too much damage, considering the amount of slots that it occupy. Other than that it works so good on elite packs, 2 or 3 charges are usually more than enough to wipe then pretty fast.
Hi Ziggy, hi all! i have a Marauder to respec tomorrow for the 2.3 patch, do u think it's viable to try this build without having fortify from the champion? and which marauder ascendancy class do u suggest to try? if someone answers, ->
hey ziggy, i love this build since its quite cheap and doesnt need uniques that cost exalts. also i love ranger so it's a perfect fit. what i am curious is if you think point blank ice shot is worth the effort. i really want to make/play an ice shot build but right now i don't think it is worth the time and effort or even currency
Hey Ziggy quick Question: Where do you get all your crit? you only take 300% from tree so you should have a crit chance of ~26%. that seems to be a bit low, considering you take the reversed knochback gloves (which otherwise don't give you a ton of advantages). Greetings T.M.
+Thomas M. a little bit on gear but yeah man, this build doesn't get very high crit. It gets some efficient crit to scale damage a bit (which is pretty high base damage) and to add some knockback. Keep in mid that chin sol has guaranteed knockback at closer ranges. A build like this wouldn't normally go crit because it'd be inefficient but with poachers mark giving such cheap accuracy it's worth getting some.
ZiggyD can i ask advice :D? Starting this game again whit new league :) to u have any good build suggestions i dont like kiting :D evrey mob would prefer some vortex,molten shell or some other mellee type or something like that :) And any tips what is good way to farm currency at the beginning of league to get good start?
you should make a video on how to make a build from scratch the fundamentals and what to avoid, i been just following builds on poe forum, but always wanted to create my own build, but have no idea where to start
Hey I've got another question. The Lioneye's Fall is currently really expensive (for me) like 1ex min ^^ Unitl I get it, is there another alternative? Thanks :)
ziggyd, can you please link to an update for this tree? i found your offline tree planner build to show different tree than what you show in this video. i'm really enjoying this build, but would like your feedback on the proper tree you recommend
also, could i recommend that you add a "last updated" date to your spreadsheets? this would be helpful when googling and finding your data, to know when it was last touched
His spreadsheet does say 2.2 on it and he mentions that he did this in Perandus League, which I think is more useful than a date. If he had said April, 15 2016, I'd have to look up what patch that was to be able to figure out things that have changed since then.
level 89 on this build and i would say a koam's heart and a 6 linked chin sol would be better than getting a belly of the beast because belly of the beast is only good if you got loads of maximum hp whilst with this build having so many uniques the increase is very little
+Tom K I don't see where you get the notion that the build is unique heavy. You run 2 uniques p much. Maybe 3. Possibly 4. That's not alot ^^ Also, you're listing shit that would take the build from low budget to somewhat costy.
'Maybe 3, possibly 4'.. No, it will be definitely be 4 with belly of the beast, 4 uniques is pretty damn heavy if you need to maximum your +hp . As someone who have tested belly of the beast with the build, the hp is little difference from a good +hp armour piece . Secondly Kaoms heart is actually cheaper than a 6 linked belly of the beast and if you watch the video, ziggy said how to 'maximize the build not on the lowest budget' dude, don't sniff drugs and make youtube comments
internet conversations, I forgot. OK MAN I THINK I'LL USE CAPS TO MAKE MY POINT SINCE YOU ATTACKED MY SOBRIETY!! Or. I won't, since whatever I say will make both me and you look dumber than we already do.
+MrComfortablyAwkward i agree, you did sound pretty dumb by providing only false statements hence why I gave u the benefit of the doubt, u must be on drugs. Please point out if any of my points are incorrect and I will also agree I sounded dumb too.
Hey ziggs, just start this build on prophecy and I want to understand why use point blank and chin sol with blast rain cause this is not a projectile skill. Ty :)
The notable: "Smashing Strikes" on the skill tree. 10% chance to gain endurance charge on melee crit, turned into bow crit with Lioneye's Fall in vicinity.
Just want to thank you for all of your awesome videos. I saw you do this build last league and I'm playing it this league, but with some changes to fit my place style. I went marauder instead and went chieftain. I went resolute technique instead of crit because I don't like messing with trying to min/max crit and having to try to get enough accuracy. I also converted the last 50% of phy damage with blackgleam (lets me get lava lash and explosive impact). I've been using build guides for a while now, but I'm starting to expand my comfort zone and started making my own builds or my take on others' builds.Just want to thank you and the POE community again with giving me so much information and the tools to give me the confidence to play my way. :)
Haha awesome job man - I loved that intro!
I literally was just browsing RUclips randomly and found your guide on the exact same thing I've been theorycrafting for the past couple weeks...my setup will be stronger but I was super surprised to see a video mentioning Champion Duelist class, Blast Rain, Vaal Burning Arrow, Chin Sol, Empire's Grasp, Rearguard, Lioneye's Fall + staff nodes, etc. It's nice to have some reassurance that this build works well (that means mine will work VERY well!). Cheers, great minds think alike!
Nice intro! Also cool to see you actually stuck with the name for the build I suggested :D VacBlasster 3000 OP!
+ItsYoji Hey Yoji! Could u please make a build like this with CoC? I mean just for the name....
My brother just specced into this build and is getting ready to do Atziri. It's freaking amazing. Thank you Ziggy!
Just wanted to give thanks for Ziggy for the build. Just hit 70 recently and acquired all the necessary gear and have started up maps on it, very fun build! Love watching the dumb mob AI flail about from the reverse knockback.
thank you so much for this, I've been looking for a duelist tank bow build for a looooong time :D
After trieng my 6th build i decided to play this one....and i am totally hooked! Great Job @ZiggyD ;) and ty very much
Wow Ziggy, what a beautiful and creative build!
Sick intro :'D Love Chin Sol and this build looks so sweet...lioneyes Fall and all...
+Shu L.Light i see a little bit of Yoji there, 2 of my favorite poe youtubers :D
love that starcraft 1 type of graphics effect!
So is this Atziri viable? :D
+Corbin Dickens I need to know it! I demand it!
+Corbin Dickens i dont see why it shouldnt be atziri viable. If you know the mechanics, it even should be quite easy^^ just pointblank should be respect for atziri herself.
very fun and fast build. being a newer player this has really stepped up my game. Nice1m8
gotta love that double point blank bonus
+ZiggyD Gaming love the epic intro. Thank you for that. Needed the laugh.
Thanks for the build dude! Im currently using it on my main char and its amazing, it has great sustain, tankyness, damage and the reverse knockback is extremely fun! The items cost way more than its shown in the video but its probably because the sellers are trying to profit off of people that are playing this build :( . Im going for lvl 100 and im really happy with the mechanics of the build , never gets boring. Oh and try not to run curse immune maps as it destroys your sustain(UPDATE: with immortal flesh's huge sustain you can run them and it is an extremely nice belt anyway so you should get it). Also Atziri's step boots seem really good for this build cause you get 16 percent chance to dodge spells so you pretty much have 31 percent chance to dodge/ block spells counting rearguards, decent life, good evasion and 30 percent movespeed which i think its max on boots. ( extremely cheap too: 5-10c )
This video is awesome! You should make all your build videos like this xD
great funny video ZiggyD, loved it, this looks fun & going to have a go, haven't played a ranger for years so maybe interesting. I've managed to pick up all the uniques for 1C apart from the gloves for 5C.
You get 20% Fortify effect from those ascendancy points, so it's actually 24% mitigation :) Awesome build btw
This thing is an absolute monster; munched Labyrinth in every difficulty without overlevelling at all. Malachai hasn't made me break a sweat. 10/10 would recommend. Bring on the maps...
is this build hillock viable???
no
Tried this build this weekend.. I was so surprise how much i enjoyed it and it was so cheap yet at the same time do so much damage.. I played the standard league hence didn't feel i needed the bow block and would rather just use a blackgleam to convert all physical to fire.
+Tom K Awesome man, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I was surprised how fun it was too, I wouldn't have thought so if you just told me it would be.
I know this is kind of a old build, however its still very viable these days.
I did revisit it lately incoporating a Perseverance Belt into the mix which acctually functions gloriously in this build giving the build permanent Onslaught and an additional damage scaling with armor quality. At the moment the belt acctually gives my character +56% Attack Damage, +20% Attack, Cast and movement speed by itself. The belt also works extremely well togheter with the First to Strike, Last to fall keynode in Champion making the +Damage modifier more consistent.
However due to the ignite changes, it seem to be way stronger to run Herald of Thunder and link Blast rain to Added cold and Lightning with elemental damage. Then i just add slower projectiles and swap around concentrated effect/increased AoE depending on what im fighting. The shocking damage aint too great but well, its better then a extremely low damage ignite.
in the beggining i loved the cold damage with frost arrow exct. but then i played full crit arrow barraze :)
Ty for increasing price on Emperor's grasp!
can u please update the chaos orb build, that build looks amazing!!
God Bless i alredy bought my items i was planing on playing this build next ;)
Nice build as always :)
looooool that intro ... love it!
and i love the reverse knockback. i ve played a static strike tempel in the act4 beta. it was fun as hell.
doing this for prophecy. you sold me, ZiggyD. you rascal
50% more from point blank and 100% more from chin sol isn't 150% more dmg, it's 1.5 * 2.0 = 3.0 or 200% more dmg. Also you get 40% increased accuracy total from two nodes in the duelist start so the build is better than you claim :P
where did the low dps ziggy build thing come from?
This is one of the most creative builds ive seen this patch.
Hi Ziggy! I'm a big fan of your vids! Keep goin man! I lost my main 91 HC ST marauder 2 years ago and quit for that period!
Tried this build and really enjoy atm, I'm 51 atm, not goin really full build cause lack of gear but its really fun!
You said you really like that build etc. My question is, coul'd you make a blast vacuum 3000a update? :) I would be glad and sure many more would! Ty man! will keep watching for sure!
I swear sometimes i just re-watch this vid just coz of the awesome intro XD
Not sure if intentional or overlooked, but only the first page of the spreadsheet has relevant information - the three labeled "GEM LAYOUT", "LEVELING", and "MAPPING" appear to be empty templates.
Is there an update to this build ? And or is it still relevant?
i played a similar build in tali hc but on a scion and using totems with chin sol/point blank/blast rain/rearguard/empires grasp/vba traps etc but without crit and with resolute technique instead. (to make totems work with this build and stay somewhat tanky you just dont have enough passives to go crit. it might work in SC though as you dont get hit very often so the loss of hp/def wouldnt be as bad.)
im level 91 in PHC now as a duelist/champion on the same (totem) build but adapted for duelist. if youre playing HC i highly suggest using totems instead as pulling volatiles, bearers, bosses, etc etc towards you is a very bad idea. you also need to grab all totem defense/hp nodes, use spire of stone, and at least one jewel with totem hp/and or res. its pretty slow but very safe. im sitting on about 5800 hp 7.3k armor, 4k evasion, 34% block, 19% spell block perma-fortify and hardly ever get hit as everything is pulled away from my character. (attack speed, aoe, and totem defense is key.)
(next up is to reroll as a hierophant and go avatar of fire with 4-5 totems and emberwake + the taming, and converting the staff knockback nodes to work with bows using lioneyes fall. but possibly with a different bow, lioneye's glare etc.)
another option is to support the phys side of blast rain and use lioneyes fall to convert the DOT nodes near point blank to function with bows. then knockback with blast rain (or your skill of choice) will cause anything you hit to keep moving and take bleed damage and if you also crit or have ignite % the dot nodes will scale that. lots of options with this build which is why i love it!
(30 int/hp/scion totem nodes next: www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/awave/characters )
i have been able to get my crit up to 45 with quil rain and 70 with windripper both with (4 power charges).
BR PCOC
COC spark
EK FP
swap out FP for chain or fork for more aoe depending if you have gear that does physical or wed.
honestly I'd recommend respecing into "You have Fortify" after cruel just because Fortify is so good, maybe not in SC but for sure in HC, Fortify makes merc lab much easier IMO
You need to remake this build for Atlas of Worlds release, would love to see revamped version!
alright boys, Lioneye's Fall costs between 2 - 10c at the moment, stockpile now, list them all for 15 fuses each.
cheapest rearguard is 4c at the moment, it's rarely used for anything but block archers, so that price isn't going anywhere.
There are plenty of Blast Rain gems up at the moment with 10+ quality for less than 10 chaos as well.
Wonder if the prices will change within a few days because of this, most likely not.
+Ola Sarcasm
theyll change by tomorrow.
+Ola Sarcasm this build has been popular on forums for ages, prices wont be changing
ziggy, could you make a video about the spark character you used on your coin farming video ? thanks !
Hey ZiggyD, I've been theorizing about a build similar to this one, and I'm just curious. Do you think something like this could work as a permastun build? With Heavy Draw, Stun Mastery, and the node behind Bone Breaker, you can get 29% reduced stun threshold from the tree, and if you go Slayer instead of Champion, you can get another 5% in addition to the numerous silly bonuses from Overwhelm. Maybe use Temporal Chains instead of Poacher's Mark for stun duration, and for single target, use Ice Shot for even more duration (Ice Shot+Stun+PPAD+Hypothermia?? in Empire's Grasp). I don't know if Blast Rain would be the best skill for it, though. Just curious on your thoughts.
Hey +ZiggyD Gaming, I'm trying to figure out how to make your Southpaw in Ascendancy. What sub-class would you choose? Maybe you could make a video on it? It's my favorite build from this channel.
I can see where the programming issue is. Melee enemies in particular have a set distance with which they attack. If they're not AT that distance, then they'll get to that distance to attack. But this is a really simple programming fix. Just change it from AT to WITHIN the specified distance.
Ziggy, do you think this'll be patched out?
But most importantly... Is it atziri viable?
EDIT: Does this happen with vaal cyclone? Because I really don't think it does. And if it does, why hasn't anyone exploited this knockback mechanism before?
+OnlyLogic It does, and I saw people using it.
Very nice Ziggy
The Cheftain and the Juggernaut have around the same tooltip dps, The juggernaut can have the most armor, the Champion have lower and the Chieftain have the lowest armor. The Champion have a bit lower dps with a different passive tree according to Path of Building, so which one would be good? I can't do math with all the conditional stuff.
Just for your interest Zighy: You have 24% Fortify, as Champion gives you 20% increased Fortigy effect.
awesome build bro. can you do high tier maps? like t14-t15 in standard?
im actually playing this in essence and its still fun :D
Hey, Ziggy! I'm trying this build out in Essence Hardcore after ripping my Blade Vortexer and my Juggernaut EQ.
When determining the Point Blank modifier, is the distance between you and the target calculated when you cast or when you hit with Blast Rain?
blastrain works wonders with hypothermia, frost bite, and herald of ice.
I'm wondering if this build would be usable for Atziri Farming.
Do you have any update of this bow champion build? Passive tree looks different in the recent version 3.7
I pretty much thought to do this as well, but since I'm garbage at the game, this is a much better version. Though my tree is awful and I basically have to re-roll.
why vaal burning arrow traps instead of puncture traps? I use puncture trap and shrapnel shot to 1. bleed singletarget mobs hard due to slower proj mutliplier too now and 2. make them bleed for the full effect bcuz of shrapnel shotting and knocking them back from range. I would like to know which is evidently better though.
That's a great guide, but I have one gripe with it; I don't know if it's Atziri viable...
So the ascendancy passives for champion which are +5% to fortify arent actually flat +5 but 5% out of 20?
Hey Ziggy bro, blast rain doesnt have a projectile type on gem so projectile mods wont affect it, neither point blank will. Im like 99% sure ( tho i can be wrong, prove me internet )
+Deephvc Just read the wiki, it explains that projectile damage still affects Blast Rain. So this means Point Blank, Physical Projectile Attack Damage, etc.
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Hi i am new to POE, not very familiar with the passive tree yet, so I might be wrong on this, but why did you have the 4 points into that bone breaker area ? 3 points are essentially wasted on mace damage, and at the end you are getting bone breaker, is the aoe radius and stun duration worth that much?
I can see a lot more options on the tree that could benefit us more from those 4 points.
Please enlighten me, thanks, sorry if this is a stupid question.
ok I just noticed the jewel in the build. good shit
I'm having difficulty getting elemental resistances capped... I got all the uniques, but then its the gloves that destroys my resists. I need ilvl 75+ for the rest of the items?
do u have a detailed version of this skill tree ? plz
Hey Zigg Dizzle, is this build Atziri viable? and just how budget friendly is this? All I have currently is a potato, chewed stale bubblegum, and a small pile of collected belly-button lint.
Ziggy, you mention in the video that your fortify provides 22% decreased damage taken. Since the base reduction is 20%, that's actually incorrect (would imply 10% increased effect). You get 20% increased fortify effect from the nodes leading into Fortitude, so your actual damage reduction from Fortify is 24%, which is higher than you said. :)
+deltaforce2142 woot! I like when my shitty math works in my favor xD
What should the end-game DPS look like on this build? sitting around 2k dps (before point blank calcs) at lv63 and I'm curious how high they can get here.
What's the best bow/skill/gear to level with?
I can imagine this effect would be cool with ranged attack totem
Could you do this with totems instead of self-cast?
Is there a chance that you could make a video on split crit and what one should do when not doing much single target damage? I don't really find any in-depth guides about this.. all guides basically just talk about the end game and not the level-game. I in fact already died a few times on normal A3 ;O it's pathetic really, but i am also new and i just came from a vortex blade build.
Reflect is never a problem without damage
I was trying to make a duelist bow build some months ago and at some point I thought it was pointless since that ascendancy may be the only one that can make it work a bit but wasn't sure if it may survive end game not hving any ascendancy nodes that give you some specific advantge to the build.
Any duelist ascendancy have pros and cons for bow builds. Gladiator can grant extra block and spell block for survivability and if you're using a physical based bow skill like tornado shot or barrage, bleeds and bloody explosions are magnificent for pack clearing (Let's not forget the +10% more phys damage at full frenzy charges). Slayer would grant fantastic sustain and damage. 20% more damage coupled with the 20% culling strike is effectively a 1.5x more damage multiplier to bosses and elites (Estimate based on 1.2 / 0.8). Champion offers some nice movement speed and attack speed bonuses which is fantastic for clear speed as well as the undoubtedly strong defensive mechanic of fortify, which is very difficult to maintain otherwise as a bow build. All of them are definitely end game viable, it really just depends on your preference. Ziggy generally gears toward defensive builds because he plays hardcore half the time and I always tell my friends, your dps is 0 if you're dead.
Hey ZiggyD, is this 1 playable in betryal?
4:45 i rly wonder what u would say about this build if u got a small of 2secs in there =)
+trifilosgr The point is it survived - thanks to it's tankyness. That boss hits like an absolute truck and that was in a vulnerability map + it crit crit (you can see from the shock status I got). That would one shot most builds but we survived with not even a very high life pool thanks to great mitigation.
So that particular clip says very good things about the build's survivability! :D
yea... but u were like almost dead...that fact it dosent make it a build with great survibillity lol...atleast u cant tell great survibillity, cuz if that is survibillity then i must delete my marauder -.-, it has good dmg YES survibillity? No! bcuz if u had a lag of 2 secs there u would be dead 100% i saw u pop up flask there, so dont deny it, a marauder tho would survive bcuz its job is to survive ;)
its not tanky at all forget about it, but it has great dmg i agree on that but just that and nothingn else, its the same squishy like most builds cuz poe is unforgivable...btw if i did grammar mistakes, oh and i would like to see u make a build scaling in def primarly try and show us how u lvling a mara-witch-duelist or templar in the def aspects of the game, i would rly like to see u doin that, try and get full phys medigation and capped resist and while doin that try to find an entertaining way to make dmg, personally i play mara with 50k def juggernaut and grabbing as much armour as possible and gonna get aurora shield to regen on ES HC league btw.
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I think you're missing the point. The build is tanky considering not having it's full possible life pool and the fact that it's got no armor and can still survive a phys hit like that. Not saying it's the tankiest build in the game, of course not. But that it can survive some pretty nasty stuff that would often kill an evasion bow character.
+trifilosgr
you should make your own build if youre gonna cry at youtube about other builds.. sometimes playstyle of the person affects your own
For softcore 2.3, would it be possible to do a version of this with a ranger? using perma phasing from raider sounds like it would be pretty fun with Chin Sol.
Yeah you totally could, tree would be almost the same and the new raider with +2 points will be great.
This video has nothing on the bandit quest rewards. I already killed Oak; is it worth restarting or is 2 passive skills points good too. What would be recommended to put them in?
So this build now goes Slayer for insanly overpowered Culling Strike and massive leech? :D Would you recommend using a Writhing Jar for bosses so you can proc the on kill stuff if they dont summon adds (like the Atziri or Hydra phases where you only have the boss in the room) or ist that to dangerous?
Hello. Just saw this build, is the viability still the same as now, 2.4? Thanks!!
bro I love blast rain...just started poe again..this is the omly champion blast rain build ive found and looks awesome..Ive almost got all the gear..doesnt suppose you could do an update on it?
Hey brother, i´ve been testing this build and its been super fun so far. But i have a question for you, do you have any advice for boss fights like Izaro, what to use instead of vaal burning arrow ? I find it kinda useless since you dont get the charges when you enter his zone,and even if u get some charges, it wont cause too much damage, considering the amount of slots that it occupy. Other than that it works so good on elite packs, 2 or 3 charges are usually more than enough to wipe then pretty fast.
+Felipe Emmel use puncture.
funny build :). thanks a lot
Hi Ziggy, hi all! i have a Marauder to respec tomorrow for the 2.3 patch, do u think it's viable to try this build without having fortify from the champion? and which marauder ascendancy class do u suggest to try?
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hey ziggy, i love this build since its quite cheap and doesnt need uniques that cost exalts. also i love ranger so it's a perfect fit.
what i am curious is if you think point blank ice shot is worth the effort. i really want to make/play an ice shot build but right now i don't think it is worth the time and effort or even currency
+Jason Athanasiou Point Blank Ice shot has great synergy look into "railgun" builds.
What do you think for leveling up ? Gems and weapons?
What is the script for Treasure Key in the loot filter?
Hey Ziggy quick Question: Where do you get all your crit? you only take 300% from tree so you should have a crit chance of ~26%. that seems to be a bit low, considering you take the reversed knochback gloves (which otherwise don't give you a ton of advantages).
Greetings T.M.
+Thomas M. a little bit on gear but yeah man, this build doesn't get very high crit. It gets some efficient crit to scale damage a bit (which is pretty high base damage) and to add some knockback. Keep in mid that chin sol has guaranteed knockback at closer ranges. A build like this wouldn't normally go crit because it'd be inefficient but with poachers mark giving such cheap accuracy it's worth getting some.
Why don't you use shrapnel shot? Is it not good in end game?
im new to the game like couple days playing should i give a try? and wich skills to use until lvl 28 for the blast rain
ZiggyD can i ask advice :D? Starting this game again whit new league :) to u have any good build suggestions i dont like kiting :D evrey mob would prefer some vortex,molten shell or some other mellee type or something like that :) And any tips what is good way to farm currency at the beginning of league to get good start?
seems like a similar playstyle to whispering ice.
confirm?
bro im making a whispering ice miner, ya think its viable for hc perandus?
you should make a video on how to make a build from scratch the fundamentals and what to avoid, i been just following builds on poe forum, but always wanted to create my own build, but have no idea where to start
You get a skill you like and try to make it do a lot of dmg, but dont forget about defensives.
Hey I've got another question. The Lioneye's Fall is currently really expensive (for me) like 1ex min ^^ Unitl I get it, is there another alternative? Thanks :)
Buy it, its insane the damage you lost
ziggyd, can you please link to an update for this tree? i found your offline tree planner build to show different tree than what you show in this video. i'm really enjoying this build, but would like your feedback on the proper tree you recommend
also, could i recommend that you add a "last updated" date to your spreadsheets? this would be helpful when googling and finding your data, to know when it was last touched
His spreadsheet does say 2.2 on it and he mentions that he did this in Perandus League, which I think is more useful than a date. If he had said April, 15 2016, I'd have to look up what patch that was to be able to figure out things that have changed since then.
level 89 on this build and i would say a koam's heart and a 6 linked chin sol would be better than getting a belly of the beast because belly of the beast is only good if you got loads of maximum hp whilst with this build having so many uniques the increase is very little
+Tom K I don't see where you get the notion that the build is unique heavy. You run 2 uniques p much. Maybe 3. Possibly 4. That's not alot ^^ Also, you're listing shit that would take the build from low budget to somewhat costy.
'Maybe 3, possibly 4'.. No, it will be definitely be 4 with belly of the beast, 4 uniques is pretty damn heavy if you need to maximum your +hp . As someone who have tested belly of the beast with the build, the hp is little difference from a good +hp armour piece . Secondly Kaoms heart is actually cheaper than a 6 linked belly of the beast and if you watch the video, ziggy said how to 'maximize the build not on the lowest budget' dude, don't sniff drugs and make youtube comments
internet conversations, I forgot. OK MAN I THINK I'LL USE CAPS TO MAKE MY POINT SINCE YOU ATTACKED MY SOBRIETY!!
Or. I won't, since whatever I say will make both me and you look dumber than we already do.
+MrComfortablyAwkward i agree, you did sound pretty dumb by providing only false statements hence why I gave u the benefit of the doubt, u must be on drugs. Please point out if any of my points are incorrect and I will also agree I sounded dumb too.
+Tom K if your points are logically valid that is *
Ziggy, will this remain viable in Prophecy? Never played Slayer before but I know they changed up the Slayer ascendancies a bit.
Yeah not only will this continue to work but it'll be great as slayer and see some pretty sick survivability, damage and AoE buffs!
Wasn't rearguard a league exclusive item a few years ago?
+I Dislike the new RUclips It's been brought into the core game as of 2.0 I believe. It's been around for a little while now
Please answer, atziri viable?
Hey Ziggy, is this Hillock viable? I've been having a lot of trouble killing him!
Hey ziggs, just start this build on prophecy and I want to understand why use point blank and chin sol with blast rain cause this is not a projectile skill. Ty :)
It's a bow skill, which are all inherently projectile :)
Oh ok thanks :)
how are you getting your ENDURANCE charges if you dont have it on your bar? CODT?
The notable: "Smashing Strikes" on the skill tree. 10% chance to gain endurance charge on melee crit, turned into bow crit with Lioneye's Fall in vicinity.
Blasphemy with warlord's mark