The truth is … most of the mice are enough for everyone. 3370 is still a good sensor. Mice become so good that the companies have to compete in a tech like pooling rate. But what does it mean in real life? I do have a lot of them and diff in pooling rate is hardly there. These are the numbers just on paper. 80% of which mouse to pick is the shape of it. Personally using 2K hz on every mouse because it still has enough battery life
Same. Even with a high end PC + high refresh rate monitor the polling rate makes no difference in how you play. I have several 4k/8k mice and I run them all at 2k.
I skipped the Pulsar section of the video and continued right when you said: 'thats why you shouldnt skip sections of the video.' OK Sir, you got me. Going right back.
I've had my Lamzu Thorn Fnatic 4k for a few months now and absolutely love it ! After having the Atlantis Mini for a few months I just needed something a bit larger for my medium size hands. As for the 4k polling, unless you have a good enough monitor and system then you won't notice the difference. I play around 165hz and its barely noticeable but it's still nice, but def does drain the battery, if I don't use it then I charge once a week as opposed to every other day for 4k.
rockin the VXE r1 on 2k polling rate and I would say its a bang for the buck for its price and performance! and I love it for being so small. In the end of the day what matters is the comfort and the way person uses his/her mice.
Hello, I have a Pulsar H2 which for a long time has been giving me tracking errors either wirelessly or wired. I have called the warranty and the solution is to send it from Mexico to Korea for repair, but if they detect that there is no fault at their center, they will return it to me as it arrived and charge me the shipping costs. What do you recommend, friends, or any solution that you know of?
I'm using an old microsoft optical mouse that must be 20 years old now, what would be a good superlight mouse for someone that plays fps with small hands? Are there any more budget option say 50/100$?
Ordered an Xlite a few days ago, can’t wait for it to get here! Got it for only $70 on Amazon, couldn’t deny the most reasonable price on the list, and my grip isn’t super tight!
The superlight is crazy, I've lasted weeks using it without charging. Hours upon hours a day of gaming sessions. I've used the glorious model o wireless, the hyper x pulse fire haste wired, the death adder V2 wired, and the superlight wireless. The death adder is heavy so it's good for fps games and rocket League, the model o is so light that it's better for Minecraft. The hyperx sucks, I just can't palm grip that, it's more of a claw grip mouse. The superlight is by far the best, perfect weight. Perfect battery life. And perfect design and soft feel it's very comfortable. And it can balance fps games, and Minecraft very easily with just the perfect weight, not too light, not heavy, just perfect weight. Lmao this isn't sponsored by Logitech, I just love the Logitech g pro x superlight wireless.
I hate open mouse design, it's a dust magnet and the feels is distracting. But, I like lighter mice, I just do a vinyl wrap. (it's making cool comb texture or whatever wireframe below it) Can you review some small mouse? I've use g305 with a claw grip. (feels a bit old and slow with the latency)
loved this list, I started looking for a new mouse (preferably wireless) about 2-4 weeks ago, at first my choice was the sprime PM1, then ninjutso Sora V2, then Lamzu Thorn, Lamzu Maya, and back to Lamzu Thorn. It is more affordable then other mice on this in AUD, however thanks to this channel, you never fail to give top tear results, Thank You Mate.
Ive been binge watching ur vids. I must say, in the hectic adhd world where everyone is hyper and trying to be funny for clicks ur dry british humour is lovely. Either that or im getting old. Waiting for the logi dex 2 review!
They hold up well for the most part but there will always be cases of people having bad experiences with tech so I wouldn’t let it dissuade you from deciding on which mouse to buy.
Unrelated, I've just bought a steelseries aerox 9 wireless, want to try on that lightness goodness. All of the other mmo mice are just too heavy for modern standards
my viper ultimate finally get double click, wish me luck because im gonna claim the warranty and maybe razer will replace new unit deathadder v3 pro. btw, im happy with logitech superlight 2.. best mouse ever i use atm
An issue I have with the Viper V3 and it is the same with the G Pro is the scroll wheel. I hate the lack of tactility and defined steps. I am also not a fan of the optical switches Razer uses.
I love the clicks on the lamzu, I think it's literally personal preference for your top 2-5 with price being the defining factor, with razer the only one with actual significant benefits (although overpriced imo)
suggestion: make a list about "sandwich generation gaming mouse" which features affordable price, followed excellent battery life for 'cutting down every cent of electrical bill as possible' (means it can be rechargeable or not) and less gaming attribute because you probably use it on the meeting room full of double-faced coworkers.
Great review. I suggest though, when presenting best mice, tell us the biggest downsize of them too. If you would have done this, I doubt that Viper would have been 1st due to it's atrocious and intrusive software, which is annoying, disturbing and more bloatware than useful.
I legit took my grip tapes off my white v pro 3 cause the coating legit makes it unnecessary. It sticks to my hand like no others. Allowing me much more fine control over my mouse. Now when i grip my gpx 2 i notice i have to grip way harder for similar results.
Razer software is a deal-breaker, you cannot review a $160 mouse with ZERO time spent on software (I mean you just did, but neglecting this colors all your reviews)... Windows update's forced installation on computers, and their TOS that lets them harvest data from your machine, and history of garbage software releases - have had it cause crashes after Windows Update pushed it to my PC in the past, and then the thing keeps trying to install again when I switch the mouse to a second PC and back using a KVM. I would rather spend $160 on some traditional BDSM instead of psychological torture of living with Razer Synapse or Cortex or whatever the latest release is called on my computer.
@@omegaPhix My gripe with this reviewer, and others, is that they spend zero time comparing mice beyond purely hardware considerations, when within some range there isn't enough difference to make a difference in the hardware whereas minor differences in software can have a huge impact on the experience individuals. My gripe with Razer is not with the need for software to set it up or use it, my gripe is with non-consensual installation in the background using Windows Update, and adding insult to injury it's buggy software at that. Occasionally I'll want to write a quick macro or something and GOOD mouse software will let me do that without needing Python/VBA/AutoHotkey, but it's not good enough for that, but that's OK I'm just using them as an example of software that sucks and there's nothing wrong with just sucking. There's a lot wrong with forcing your shitty UX on someone just for plugging in your device.
im glad that the best mouse is the one i bought a week ago ,the razer viper v3 pro white version, im gonna use for my new gaming laptop love ur videos bro do u have plan to review the moonsgeek M1-SP He and the new Lamzu Atlantis pro keyboards? a new wooting competitor
@@yigitatakrkmz mine just broke and i’m looking to replace it, first the cord broke, then i replaced it, and now it sometimes started double clicking when i only click once… sensor seems weird too
somewhere along the way gaming mouses got boring sure the tech goes forwards theres higher poling rates more settings and what not but they all like boring ass office mouse today and thats a bit of a shame
@@DiamondLobbyReviews as far as I’m aware, it’s only an issue with the batch 2 units though, and it’s all been/being fixed and dealt with by Ninjutso :(
@@DiamondLobbyReviewsmine has been flawless. I did hear about some of the issues but it appears to be a small number of mice. To be fair I have had QC issues with two different models of Vaxee mice. Both had terrible switch grind.
I know this will sound silly, but the only reasons I can't bring myself to get a razer mouse is 1. Razer's software is dogshit 2. The Razer logo looks stupid If I could have the amazing hardware and design of a razer mouse without the logo and shitty software I'd pay more than full price. more peripheral manufacturers need to take notes from Wooting with their browser utility (no software needed to configure your peripherals!)
@gamesbond0078 worse for my own taste, what matters most is the shape if it fits your hand. All the numbers and features are bs so just focus on the weight shape and coating
@gamesbond0078 for my experience the gpx had switch problems after sometimes so I personally wouldn't recommend a used one especially that you cannot not know for how much it's been
"without futher delay", proceeds to stare into your soul*
"without further delay" *intentionally delays further*
that's weird and creepy
@@hwelp that’s the joke bro 👍
thank you for the further delay 👍
I swear to god that genuinely grinded my gears 😂😂
The truth is … most of the mice are enough for everyone. 3370 is still a good sensor. Mice become so good that the companies have to compete in a tech like pooling rate. But what does it mean in real life? I do have a lot of them and diff in pooling rate is hardly there. These are the numbers just on paper. 80% of which mouse to pick is the shape of it. Personally using 2K hz on every mouse because it still has enough battery life
Same. Even with a high end PC + high refresh rate monitor the polling rate makes no difference in how you play. I have several 4k/8k mice and I run them all at 2k.
@@itzturtlexd1721 At 360hz i can’t see much difference. Maybe on 500 but I highly doubt it.
newer sensors have more efficiency so better battery life whilst also adding on some extra performance
@@mapotofuu Right but I am talking about performance
@@ValiooX performance wasn’t my main point, it was efficiency
I skipped the Pulsar section of the video and continued right when you said: 'thats why you shouldnt skip sections of the video.'
OK Sir, you got me. Going right back.
I might buy the Viper v3 Pro just because the DPI button is on the bottom which is preferred by Zekken. A steal in my books fr.
@@RunnyBottom I got the razer viper v3. I have the black one. But it’s worth it. I bit the bullet having a budget. But it’s 100% worth it.
DONT DO IT
@@shinoq4646 why not lil man?
What would we do without the DPI button on the bottom of the mouse (preferred by Zekken)?
8:09 Never have I been bamboozled so hard in my life
I've had my Lamzu Thorn Fnatic 4k for a few months now and absolutely love it ! After having the Atlantis Mini for a few months I just needed something a bit larger for my medium size hands. As for the 4k polling, unless you have a good enough monitor and system then you won't notice the difference. I play around 165hz and its barely noticeable but it's still nice, but def does drain the battery, if I don't use it then I charge once a week as opposed to every other day for 4k.
I’m not always into gaming mice but ever so often I’ll watch some of your videos and I’m reminded why I’m subbed. Your humor is the best
what happend to the sora v2, I thought that was one of the best, or is that just one of your favourites?
I have it is amazing
rockin the VXE r1 on 2k polling rate and I would say its a bang for the buck for its price and performance! and I love it for being so small. In the end of the day what matters is the comfort and the way person uses his/her mice.
Hello, I have a Pulsar H2 which for a long time has been giving me tracking errors either wirelessly or wired. I have called the warranty and the solution is to send it from Mexico to Korea for repair, but if they detect that there is no fault at their center, they will return it to me as it arrived and charge me the shipping costs. What do you recommend, friends, or any solution that you know of?
I'm using an old microsoft optical mouse that must be 20 years old now, what would be a good superlight mouse for someone that plays fps with small hands? Are there any more budget option say 50/100$?
I'm considering a Logitech g703 but I don't know if it will be good for me because I have a small hand. Is it big or will it be fine?
imo too big of a mouse for small hands. And quite old tech, wouldn't recommend
The aliexpress cheap mouse lasted longer than all razer mouse together, never buying another branded mouse ever again.
What mouse You cop cause I might cops starlight wanna be
Ordered an Xlite a few days ago, can’t wait for it to get here! Got it for only $70 on Amazon, couldn’t deny the most reasonable price on the list, and my grip isn’t super tight!
@@CrimsonFangTV what do you think of it so far?
preferred by zekken is crazy 😭
The superlight is crazy, I've lasted weeks using it without charging.
Hours upon hours a day of gaming sessions.
I've used the glorious model o wireless, the hyper x pulse fire haste wired, the death adder V2 wired, and the superlight wireless.
The death adder is heavy so it's good for fps games and rocket League, the model o is so light that it's better for Minecraft. The hyperx sucks, I just can't palm grip that, it's more of a claw grip mouse.
The superlight is by far the best, perfect weight. Perfect battery life. And perfect design and soft feel it's very comfortable.
And it can balance fps games, and Minecraft very easily with just the perfect weight, not too light, not heavy, just perfect weight.
Lmao this isn't sponsored by Logitech, I just love the Logitech g pro x superlight wireless.
I hate open mouse design, it's a dust magnet and the feels is distracting. But, I like lighter mice, I just do a vinyl wrap. (it's making cool comb texture or whatever wireframe below it)
Can you review some small mouse? I've use g305 with a claw grip. (feels a bit old and slow with the latency)
Why didn't I mention WLmouse beast x max? This mouse is used omron I think she deserves to be in the top!
loved this list, I started looking for a new mouse (preferably wireless) about 2-4 weeks ago, at first my choice was the sprime PM1, then ninjutso Sora V2, then Lamzu Thorn, Lamzu Maya, and back to Lamzu Thorn. It is more affordable then other mice on this in AUD, however thanks to this channel, you never fail to give top tear results, Thank You Mate.
It's a great time to be a gamer with the choice of mice we have. And great to see the competition we have today between all the companies.
agreed!
for sure! :D
do you consider Motospeed Darmoshark M3 a good mouse in 2024 consider the price of 40$? Thanks and keep up the good work
vxe r1 pro is very good and cheap too 👍
0:20 bro passes the "whoever moves first is gay" test
Ive been binge watching ur vids. I must say, in the hectic adhd world where everyone is hyper and trying to be funny for clicks ur dry british humour is lovely. Either that or im getting old.
Waiting for the logi dex 2 review!
Lmao ur old
been thinking of buying glorious model O or the super light which one ya'll recommend :P
@@_.Indrath super light the model 0 is horrible
@@marvingoh1291 fr? My cousin recommended it lol
How would you rank the g304 compare to these mice in this year solely on performance wise ?
If these mice in the vid are s tier, the g305/g304 are low c high d teir.
guys need help, should i get Lamzu Atlantis mini 4k or lamzu thorn?
Thoughts about the Sora V2?
If you want fullgo watch his vid on it but short version "Its good, very good"
How good are these mice long-term?
They hold up well for the most part but there will always be cases of people having bad experiences with tech so I wouldn’t let it dissuade you from deciding on which mouse to buy.
based on your review Bought Lamzu x Fnatic Thorn n Won a Local PUBG tournament !! Thanks Diamond !
Unrelated, I've just bought a steelseries aerox 9 wireless, want to try on that lightness goodness. All of the other mmo mice are just too heavy for modern standards
my viper ultimate finally get double click, wish me luck because im gonna claim the warranty and maybe razer will replace new unit deathadder v3 pro. btw, im happy with logitech superlight 2.. best mouse ever i use atm
What about the beast x?
An issue I have with the Viper V3 and it is the same with the G Pro is the scroll wheel. I hate the lack of tactility and defined steps. I am also not a fan of the optical switches Razer uses.
I love the clicks on the lamzu, I think it's literally personal preference for your top 2-5 with price being the defining factor, with razer the only one with actual significant benefits (although overpriced imo)
can you review some of the glass pad?
suggestion: make a list about "sandwich generation gaming mouse" which features affordable price, followed excellent battery life for 'cutting down every cent of electrical bill as possible' (means it can be rechargeable or not) and less gaming attribute because you probably use it on the meeting room full of double-faced coworkers.
Are there any paw 3950 mice better than an aj159?
Beast x max
And I just bought the Fantech Aria XD7 last week. Solid mouse 😂✊🏻
What is your main mouse?
17x10 handsize clawgrip suitable for v3pro？
should i get the sprime if I'm looking for something to replace my g703? i can't wait any longer for g703 superlight :(
Great review. I suggest though, when presenting best mice, tell us the biggest downsize of them too. If you would have done this, I doubt that Viper would have been 1st due to it's atrocious and intrusive software, which is annoying, disturbing and more bloatware than useful.
I personally use a Logitech GProX Superlight 2 and it's my preferred mouse so far. I'm surprised it wasn't even on the list.
@@yourAVGconsumer The g pro is overated bro
I legit took my grip tapes off my white v pro 3 cause the coating legit makes it unnecessary. It sticks to my hand like no others. Allowing me much more fine control over my mouse.
Now when i grip my gpx 2 i notice i have to grip way harder for similar results.
Soft-matt - is that the surface that rots slowly and becomes nasty stick over time?
What about the Zaopin Z2 and ATK F1 Pro ?
1:10 that's crazy 😭
VXE r1 is pretty solid too i feel
@DiamondLobby Reviews When are you going to review the Waizowl OGM Cloud
Hi. What about Gravastar M1 PRO ?
Great top :) Hoping to see your review on Incott GHERO(another budget banger).
Just bought the viper v3 pro.
I hope it works up to its name
Could you rewiew the nyfter mouse ?
Razer software is a deal-breaker, you cannot review a $160 mouse with ZERO time spent on software (I mean you just did, but neglecting this colors all your reviews)... Windows update's forced installation on computers, and their TOS that lets them harvest data from your machine, and history of garbage software releases - have had it cause crashes after Windows Update pushed it to my PC in the past, and then the thing keeps trying to install again when I switch the mouse to a second PC and back using a KVM. I would rather spend $160 on some traditional BDSM instead of psychological torture of living with Razer Synapse or Cortex or whatever the latest release is called on my computer.
download razer software, set up your mouse, uninstall software
@@omegaPhix My gripe with this reviewer, and others, is that they spend zero time comparing mice beyond purely hardware considerations, when within some range there isn't enough difference to make a difference in the hardware whereas minor differences in software can have a huge impact on the experience individuals.
My gripe with Razer is not with the need for software to set it up or use it, my gripe is with non-consensual installation in the background using Windows Update, and adding insult to injury it's buggy software at that. Occasionally I'll want to write a quick macro or something and GOOD mouse software will let me do that without needing Python/VBA/AutoHotkey, but it's not good enough for that, but that's OK I'm just using them as an example of software that sucks and there's nothing wrong with just sucking. There's a lot wrong with forcing your shitty UX on someone just for plugging in your device.
i still use the deathadder v2 pro, probably will 'till it doesnt work
"are these the worlds crispiest fries?" 0:22
Remember people saying razor was crap products. They stepped it up still love my sora v2
another banger review, baldman
thank you for the bright childhood, legend
The best for fps games with ergo shape , is EC series .
Watched video while using the Keris II Ace.
XE-S vs ULX Lion for f-tip?
how its possible its not here the WL Mouse? wtf
No beast x max or ulx pro? Dang
im glad that the best mouse is the one i bought a week ago ,the razer viper v3 pro white version, im gonna use for my new gaming laptop
love ur videos bro
do u have plan to review the moonsgeek M1-SP He and the new Lamzu Atlantis pro keyboards?
a new wooting competitor
No Beast X Max. Right on par with the Razer Viper V3 Pro.
Thank you David Cross
What about glorious model o wireless?(or model d)
@@yigitatakrkmz mine just broke and i’m looking to replace it, first the cord broke, then i replaced it, and now it sometimes started double clicking when i only click once…
sensor seems weird too
Love my sora v2
How much razer pay you?
No sora v2 :(
Which of these would not get double clicking issues within 1.5 yrs above? I hate logitech now and would never buy one again.
Probably the Vaxee or Viper V3 Pro
last year i got like 6 mouse mostly ergo, i have big hands but lamzu thorn fntic edition for me last bought mice so case sealed with this...
Which ones did u test?
@@takutolovex thorn,v3pro,xlitev2,darmoshark m3,lamzu atlantis
love your humour in the vids dude
Did all these reviewers get paid to hype up the sora v2. Mind you I love the mouse but since its release it’s been silent
I still do not understand light weight wireless mice with 8khz polling. Who is that for? People who love to charge after every session..🤦♂
Nobody actually uses the 4/8K Hz mode. Just marketing
@omegaPhix Nobody does? Pretty bold statment. Have you been keeping tabs and taking surveys?
Bro I love this channel.
No beastx is crazy 😢
Im on a budget so how about wired?
coming soon
OP1 8k
Some people pay extra for their mouse to flex in hand for their comfort.
Great list, Chris!
4:04 I can't find my G703! Whatever, I'll just use my G403, I'm sure no-one will notice…
Glad to see the zekken love my goat
Disliked for that long delay
No way viper v3 pro is number 1, with the 4k and 8k latency delay.
somewhere along the way gaming mouses got boring sure the tech goes forwards theres higher poling rates more settings and what not but they all like boring ass office mouse today and thats a bit of a shame
I love you haircut
OOOOOF, these are all super expensive. But I can see that if you're a professional it's an investment. I can't even afford them, thought. LoL
wow
very cool baldman
also the turtle mouse is objectively the best
Where's the sora?
I didn't feel comfortable including it due to the recent QC issues that a lot of people have been experiencing with the mouse.
@@DiamondLobbyReviews as far as I’m aware, it’s only an issue with the batch 2 units though, and it’s all been/being fixed and dealt with by Ninjutso :(
@@DiamondLobbyReviews If you did include the Sora v2, where would you put it?
Maaaaaayyybe under the xe-s as they still haven't released the 8K dongle
@@DiamondLobbyReviewsmine has been flawless. I did hear about some of the issues but it appears to be a small number of mice. To be fair I have had QC issues with two different models of Vaxee mice. Both had terrible switch grind.
To think an ergo lover would recommend a symm mouse so highly. You disgrace us all.
Ergo mice need to up their game
Great video as always, thanks for the upload
I know this will sound silly, but the only reasons I can't bring myself to get a razer mouse is
1. Razer's software is dogshit
2. The Razer logo looks stupid
If I could have the amazing hardware and design of a razer mouse without the logo and shitty software I'd pay more than full price.
more peripheral manufacturers need to take notes from Wooting with their browser utility (no software needed to configure your peripherals!)
true
Deathadder V3 pro all day everyday 😎
seu review ajudou muito a arrumar meu sprime pm1, sao muito bons videos.
me still using ec2-a in 2024: 💀
pulsar mice feel like hollow plastic
yuhhh Lamzu for the win
0:21 world crispiest mice
if i have a ca 30 euro budget whats the best option? (id also buy used)
Vxe r1 pro gets to 30 pretty often
@@sekki327 would a used superlight be better or worse? +ty
@gamesbond0078 worse for my own taste, what matters most is the shape if it fits your hand. All the numbers and features are bs so just focus on the weight shape and coating
ik sadly no way of testing either
@gamesbond0078 for my experience the gpx had switch problems after sometimes so I personally wouldn't recommend a used one especially that you cannot not know for how much it's been