- This video was made with footage from the official 2022 reveal gameplay and the final version of the game on PC with all settings set to maximum and RT enabled. - Este video se ha realizado con material del reveal gameplay de 2022 oficial y la versión final del juego en PC con todos los settings al máximo y RT activado.
Analista, no vi este tipo de comparación con GT7 donde es muchísima mas evidente la diferencia. Creo que se defiende bien el Forza pese a la campaña evidente contra él.
@@Sheeto1989 Deje de Llorar y acepte la realidad y para que lo sepas GT7 tiene una versión nativa en Ps4 en cambio FM8 no comparte ninguna versión con xbox one donde están esos 12tf?
It seems that the release verison completely lacks global illumination from the Sun. And because the lighting model is dynamic, you now cannot have pre-computed GI. So it's like the crucial component of the rendering simply removed. Removed details and reduced draw distance are also noticeable, but don't affect the overall perception that much.
6:39 this shot exemplifies exactly what bothers me the most about this game. There is something wrong with their light model... a lot of the times cars look dull, sad and out of place. The car paints sometimes has this weird bright glow that make them look like they are wrapped in a matte plastic or something
@@goodToBeConfidential I think it's not that they're cleaner, it's just that the trailer used a shallow depth of field compared to gameplay, look how the trees are blurry in the trailer
The biggest difference is they made the game look washy,grey,not enough contrast and colours look pale.If they fix it,there won't be that much difference,graphics itself is not that much downgraded,looks fine compared to the reveal.They just need to recalibrate colours and it will be much much better already
it also looks like there was drops on resolution on the current version where there were none on the reveal. however there seems to be better road textures and better backgrounds on the current version.
Why do you think they put disclaimers on not the final build, of course the visuals and gameplay change overtime because its not. Like Forza Horizon 5, the team will fix and patch all of the intricate stuff later on.
WTF are you talking about the 2023 versions looks night and day difference way better with RTAO running tracks more detailed the landscape and trees are more detailed.
@vyasrushi5177 it's even as big as you make it seem , it still has the core features like ray tracing and ambient occlusion , looks better than any other racer now with the exception of ac with mods
I’m shocked there hasn’t been a bigger backlash about this. It’s so obvious the game was downgraded from that June 2022 reveal. The PC version doesn’t even have global illumination which they said was happening.
@@새까막 You guys don't understand my comment it seems. It aged perfectly. I said that it's just a few people complaining back then because the game was not even launched yet. It's so bad that when it launches to the general public it will explode in negative comments. And it has. My comment was a reply to Dan Becker, who was surprised that there isn't a bigger backlash (it was just too early).
El juego actual se ve increíble, pero joder nos mintieron a la cara, el gameplay del 2022 se miraba un juego mucho más ambicioso, que la iba romper por diferencia en su género.
Castillos en el aire nos dan todos los vende humos estos...Y veras WRC😂que ni culean los coches ni nada gira igual de delante que de atras al menos en los videos, que ni un pro es capaz de conducir de forma realista porque han debido de poner el eje de giro ahi en el centro del coche y...madre mia🙈
@@End0fst0ry Motorsport as a whole was just nonstop false advertising. Anything from cars to tons of statements made about being built from the ground up which never was true lmao
@@thelionicorn5380 In prior FM and FH games photomode does improve the car model complexity for only the player's car. It is why every single FM/H game has a loading screen to enter photomode. That loading sequence calls in the higher resolution version of the player's car model. Driveclub instantly switches and starts processing the image as soon as input stops. Users can take photos at any time using the PS4 Share and PS5 Create buttons. GT games have a loading screen to "prepare the camera," and to be honest their virtual camera does much more than most photomode cams in videogames do... so, maybe the loading is legitimately to pull the requisite logic into RAM because there is no difference in visuals regarding lighting models and LoDs from gameplay to replays. The only difference in LoDs applies to cars in GT7 specifically allowing all cars to be LoD 0 in replay photomode's camera staging mode. The only other difference comes after taking a picture and processing the image. This includes a far higher DoF implementation than realtime rendering allows and significantly more motion samples. You can take photos in GT7 on PS5 without RT, which reduces image processing time dramatically. The photomode RT is exactly the same quality and resolution as replay mode RT, shadow quality is also unchanged in photomode and with respect to trackside detail, GT7 makes no changes there either when using photomode. All prior GT games handled Photomode similarly to GT7 (all the way back to GT4 on PS2), with the exception of using LoD 0 cars, that seems new to GT7 on PS5 alone. Photos can be taken as screenshots or saved to allotted game storage and exported to PS5's gallery or uploaded to GT's in-game social media platform via GT7's Showcase menu (similar to how Forza handles image sharing these days).
Can you please do the same comparison with the 2022 reveal trailer and at least the Xbox Series X, and if possible the Series S because the developers specifically stated that the visuals that were shown during the 2022 presentation, including the ra-ytracing scenes were possible on both the Xbox Series X/S which we know is completely not true. Thank you for all your amazing content!
@Loxxus-eo5bq because the game was downgraded. And the only reason why you downgrade a game's graphics is because the hardware is not handling it correctly.
@@crust5909 there's an RT mode on Series X, though not as beautiful as the PC version. Not sure about the Series S though, it's way weaker than the X. I think that was more the guy in charge of the marketing than the dev on this one. What's doable with one car might not be on 24 cars. I guess, having RT with 24 cars is kinda a prowess in itself on those consoles. Are you holding a grudge for a specific reason?
@Loxxus-eo5bq because we've seen not even a PC with it's graphics maxed out could match the reveal trailer, therefore XSX and especially the XSS have no chance
Yo lo que no entiendo es por que el downgrade en pc? En consolas el juego esta muy bien , tomando en cuenta el hardware que tienen las consolas , que hayan conseguido 60fps completamente estables con 2 efectos de Raytracing y resolución variable es aplaudible Es evidente que había que hacer concesiones para conseguirlo, pero el resultado final se sigue viendo excelente. Pero en pc podían haber empujado el juego a todo lo que da y que la gente ajuste los settings según su ordenador. No entiendo por que no lo lanzaron como el el gameplay del anuncio
You should compare it with XSX version instead of PC max settings. This gameplay reveal was supposed to show the power of the XSX as mentioned in the description of the original xbox yt channel video.
@@борисрябушкин-з9нanyway most console players will be playing it on Series S, which makes up 3/4 of Xbox Series sales. Anyone with an RTX 2000 or an RX 5600 XT and up will be having a better experience.
certamente tivemos um downgrade aqui, acho que o principal para mim são as cores, certas cores no de 2022 estão muito linda e no de 2023 estão um pouco mais opacas e isso faz o de 2023 parecer mais inferior, ainda sim aqui temos o melhor jogo de carro em gráfico e jogabilidade na minha opnião, um ótimo trabalho da turn10. Edit: O vídeo do El Está com erros e problemas de cores, então desconsidere totalmente as cores e reflexos, o jogo está Muito mais lindo que essas imagens que ele fez essas comparações e ele também não colocou a parte da roda gigante a noite corretamente porquê precisa habilitar isso já que é um festival ou algo tipo, então definitivamente aqui não temos um downgrade grande, são pequenos aspectos que no final do produto não prejudicaram a qualidade do jogo, retiro também oque eu disse sobre o " Excelente vídeo El " já que ele não se preocupou em capturar as imagens corretamente assim como a IGN o fez, portanto para vocês que estão em dúvidas olhem outros comparativo já que aqui foi mal feito.
Dá a sensação q os carros estão com as cores chapadas, tem hora q fica bem feio Eu não joguei GT7, mas acho q os modelos dos carros são mais bonitos, e eles fizeram um trabalho nas lanternas q qd acendem passam um realismo absurdo que da gosto de ver
The 2022 reveal had RTGI that's missing from the final game. RT reflections have also been downgraded, especially on Xbox. Night lighting is also a step back.
Because it’s motorsport the game for GT fans and racing fans who waited so long from 7 to 8 and they hyped it up and showed use false advertising WE WERE NOT EXPECTING THAT THE CAR DETAIL TO LOOK LOWER QUALITY THAN THE LAST GAME. THAT. IS. SOME. BULLSHIT
Sobra decir que hay mucha diferencia sobre todo en la iluminación final, texturas de césped, superficies de pistas, y algo extraño como que los coches han perdido brillo teniendo un tono más apagado; Algo me dice que la versión PC la han querido adaptar lo más cercana posible a la versión XBOX SERIES X, ya que si no las diferencias habrían sido más que notables, si os fijáis incluso los reflejos e iluminación con RAY-TRACING en Ultra de PC coinciden casi con SERIES X. Definitivamente es un muy buen juego y gráficamente está muy bien pero queda lejos de ese gameplay de 2022. Microsoft nos la ha colado de alguna manera una vez más y seamos honestos, estas consolas tanto PS5 como SERIES X ya van teniendo sus limitaciones, Series S desde el principio; Miedo da la llegada de UNREAL-5, mucho está tardando en instaurarse en los nuevos juegos y ya creo entender por qué…
Pues que será lo único que no tiene limitaciones? Una pc de 3000$ con 4080 o 4090? Jajaj hablas como si todos tuvieran una pc de esas, todo el mercado está concentrado en consolas y pc de gama media-baja ya quiero ver el Unreal-5 corriendo en la 1650 que es la tarjeta más usada por los de pc a ver qué dices jajajaj
@@AlejandroGomez-ri2uk lo tienes fácil. Ya tienes demos de unreal 5 para Pc y exigen bastante más de lo que dices para moverse a 4K medianamente fluido. Quizá no has entendido bien mi comentario o no has querido entenderlo. Está de moda que los juegos ahora tienen que correr a 4K nativos o escalados y a 60 frames; Pues los nuevos motores gráficos y ultimas técnicas de renderizado, colisión, sombreado en tiempo real, RT y todo lo que me dejo… son muy pesadas para el ancho de banda de estas consolas en concreto con esa CPU y GPU de tres años. Que tú con una 1650 vas que chutas? cojonudo, pero juegos nuevos exigentes? no sé a qué resolución ni framerate, Quake II seguro que te irá bien eso sí macho.
@@victorio681 Unreal siempre ha sido así, una demo no basta para declarar lo que dices, en U4 se ve algo similar juegos como Vienes 13 a pesar de usar el mismo motor no se acerca a Gears 5, todo depende de la optimización y no es algo que puedas asegurar en un demo y menos en pc.
La verdad que siempre a pasado eso no? Supongo que lo que hacen siempre es trabajar con el PC y hacen los trailers con dicha plataforma para que se vea lo mejor posible, luego lo intentan correr en consola y ven como se cae a pedazos jajaja, entonces para equiparar lo bajan un poco. Por suerte hay juegos que no han corrido esa mala suerte, hay algunos que en PC están otra generación arriba, por ejemplo Cyberpunk 2077 con Path tracing + DLSS 3.5 y frame generation, Tengo la suerte de poder jugarlo y se ve de lo mejorcito de hoy en dia.
Claramente hay downgrade, bastante ademas, pero de todos modos el resultado final es muy bueno, fuese un Gran Turismo y la que se lía aquí con los haters escupiendo diarrea por la boca xD
GT7 en ambiente es un poco pobre pero FM 2023 diablos... creo que bajó demasiado la calidad por el Ray Tracing y todo lo demás. Para el colmo la prensa de mrda calificando bien como siempre en vez de ser autocritico y ver las fallas de Turn 10 y lo que es alabado
@@miguelarteaga8669Schwachsinn, GT7 hat einen eher comichaften look, man sieht bei Vergleichen das FM um einiges besser aussieht. Sogar bei Vergleich zwischen FM7 (2017) und GT7 sehen einige besser aus xD.
El downgrade es casi de Ubisoft. El juego en si se ve bien pero se esperaba más después de tanto tiempo. La parte del time lapse es bestial, tiene clima dinamico pero en estático se le ven las costuras.
Quando joguei já tinha percebido o downgrade. Alguns aspectos bizarros piores que o Forza motorsport 7. Mas agora vendo o video pude ter noção do quanto brutal foi o downgrade, extremamente desapontado com a Microsoft pois se trata de um jogo full next gen nessa situação.
Si una PC tiene ese nivel gráfico estando en ULTRA, en Series x debe ser igual. En bien sabido que la versión de PC debería ser superior, aunque sea por mínimo al de consola.
El problema es que no se especifican las caracteristicas de la pc ni las opciones de graficos añadidas, por eso es mejor si se hace la comparativa en la consola pues las opciones graficas ya vienen establecidas
@@freddyespinoza5115 ¿ donde se ven unos segundos del juego por los menús donde se vea que está a 8k , que es lo máximo del juego ? ... No se quizás alguien vio más ....
@@freddyespinoza5115 No especifica que GPU, RAM, CPU y tarjeta madre usa para la comparativa, es a lo que me refiero. Yo uso una RTX 2080 y el juego se ve como en la demo asi que esa comparativa se cae por los suelos desde ese momento. Para que me salgas con un comentario así significa que no tienes ni idea de computadoras o como se deben hacer comparativas.
Casi todos los juegos que anuncian ningún tráiler se ve como el original, casi siempre hay downgrade en este caso no es para tanto el downgrade he visto peores
@@agyl2251busca cualquier Gameplay de Absolutamente Cualquier persona en RUclips que lo juegue en Ultra y verás que en cada escena va Mejor que lo que se ve en el vídeo, obviamente hay un Downgrade pero no es tan abismal y se limita más a cosas que literalmente eran innecesarias en el juego como las plantitas que habían en lugares que el jugador nunca vería o algunas Grietas que tampoco se apreciarían mientras corres, eran una carga absurda de recursos gastados innecesariamente, pero la iluminación en la versión Final no es tan mala como se ve en este video y ni muchísimo menos tan oscura, los reflejos también se ven de mayor calidad y muchas texturas en general, ya te digo que si hay un Downgrade comparado a lo visto en 2022, no lo niego para nada, pero no es un Downgrade como el que se ve en este video que literalmente parece un mal juego de Xbox One en algunos momentos, y ni hablar de los colores que en este video se ven extremadamente apagados y el juego realmente no se ve ni de cerca tan gris, hay un Bug cuando cambias los Gráficos y no reinicias el juego te suceden todos estos errores y Turn10 y Microsoft lanzaron un comunicado advirtiendolo, el Analista simplemente no le importó que su video está mal grabado y no lo eliminó y grabó de nuevo como realmente se debe.
Vaya pedazo de downgrade que nos comimos, confiaba cuando menos en la versión de PC, parecía que se iban a marcar algo al estilo Playground Games (esa gente son magos), pero pues bueno. Igualmente sigue siendo top gráfico y le voy a meter una cantidad de horas anormal, pero si me encuentro ligeramente decepcionado, un poquitín.
what makes it worse is that this is compared with pc on max settings, so on series x the image quality will be worse. but dont get me wrong, this game still looks good. the only problem is that this game doesnt the same WOW factor like when the first time i saw FM7 gameplay on xbox one x
It's almost like they did that on purpose to come with a series XL and show the true power of the game....or they still need to polish the game and update everything by time.
The game looks like it had the same problem as FM7. Some how being too dark while being overexposed. This has nothing to do with the brightness bug btw. Look at the maple valley night section. Too dark. And the day looks washed out. Its the developers not implementing environmental lighting and gamma settings correctly. Or the engine just doesnt do lighting well.
La parte donde se compara al GTR reflejando al Ferrari es totalmente de no creer, el downgrade es tan masivamente brutal que pareciera que el producto final es un juego de Xbox 360. El estudio que hizo este juego criminalmente se rie en la cara de los xboxers.
La parte donde se compara al GTR reflejando al Ferrari es totalmente de no creer, el downgrade es tan masivamente brutal que pareciera que el producto final es un juego de Xbox 360. El estudio que hizo este juego criminalmente se rie en la cara de los xboxers.
Ich dachte mir aber damals schon das man so fliegen und dreck nicht am Lack sieht. Obwohl sie es damals angekündigt hatten das das Auto immer dreckiger wird wie im echten.
La verdad es que no te falta razón, tanto como Xbox 360 no pero Xbox One si. Me he llevado una decepción importante cuando he hechado la primera partida. Ya le puse mi reseña en la Store de Xbox.
Looks like the Demo had raytraced Global Illumination like they promised would be in the game - but isn't. That's why the lighting looks so wrong. They likely wanted it to be an option on the 30fps visuals mode but for some reason couldn't get it in the final code.
This is honestly false marketing at its prime, and is basically the same thing as Ubisoft downgrades back in 2014. Shame on Turn 10. Built from the ground up my ass. 🙄
@@techzonelabesp Es que en serio creo que la mayoria de personas en este mundo sabe que un ordenador de escritorio puede llegar a ser mucho mas potente que esas consolitas, por que hacen esto? :c
@@FabRx98en series S , no se ve igual que en Series X . La gente se queja... Pero si fuera un juego de Sony o Nintendo , quizás con suerte saldría en PC en 5 años... Venga..
Hay mucho bobo diciendo downgrade downgrade, pero mas que un downgrade pareciera un rediseño completo de todos apartados, me refiero a que las texturas y modelos no coinciden del todo, es como si fuese la misma pista en diferentes juetos y eso es muy extraño, el juego sigue siendo un portento tecnico pero esto es extraño
@@Anesthesia-z7x”built from the ground up” btw Team 10 actually fucked up this one somehow the car detail in older games look better and yes that has been debunked great “built from the ground up” experience right here cope harder
Veo que la gente está haciendo mucho drama a lo estúpido, Forza no se ve tan mal como lo pintan los Trolls, se ve genial, tiene bien rango dinámico a nivel visual y es fotorrealista, la gente que critica quiere que todo sea colorido o irreal cuando te das cuenta que las pistas en la vida real son super fofas y cuadradas, obviamente tiene carencias pero no al extremo como lo quieren dejar ver.
Ugh... demasiado descarado el downgrade, ademas quitaron cosas super absurdas... y no se, parece como que han puesto los graficos a medio y han dicho venga, eso son los graficos en ultra. Simplemente que dejen a los que tengan un PC potente añadir lo que han quitado xddd.
It was defo downgraded. Hope it at least get some update in order to improve some aspects. The final version looks more gray and cold sharpened. Although its a good game.
A versão final está muito boa, mas definitivamente é claro que houve uma notável redução na qualidade gráfica. O downgrade em si já faz parte da realidade dos jogos a tempos, mas confesso que esperava que esse novo Forza Motorsport iria fazer jus ao trailer de gameplay, principalmente por está em desenvolvimento a tanto tempo e ser focado na nova geração.
Cara eu nem ligaria para isso se implementassem danos visuais e efetivos no veículo. Tipo pneus estourando, rodas saindo, capô saindo radiador e peças soltando... Nenhum jogo faz e achei que essa geração já permitiria tal evolução.
@@Marlon_Paiva não é questão de geração, pois as marcas não permitem que seus carros sejam destruidos nos games, pode ver qualquer simulador de corrida não tem danos fisicos realistas de verdade, até por questão da diversão, pois acontece muito acidente em inicio de corrida online oq tornaria impossivel para muitos conseguir jogar
@@Marlon_Paiva pois é, mas infelizmente foi a muito tempo isso, nem mesmo o nfs shift que veio logo depois tinha os mesmos danos fisicos, prostreet é muito bom, só foi lançado na hora errada
So far, it looks like the shadows and lighting were better in the trailer. Is the gameplay with max settings? Which platform is the game play footage on? I just have questions. I am going to be playing this game on PC when it releases on the 10th since I have Gamepass. Edit: I also notice that it's at a different time of day, so the light from the sun is casting differently through the trees.
This video was made with footage from the official 2022 reveal gameplay and the final version of the game on PC with all settings set to maximum and RT enabled next time read the description :)
I have to say there is drastic difference in road textures on PC between High and Ultra render quality. Ultra is quite taxing though, I play on High as dips to 52fps are annoying and I like to keep some ray tracing on.
And for the lighting - its heavy lifting is actually done by ray tracing, which looks glorious on max settings (as good as in the trailer, just a tad less saturated) but needless to say be prepared to sacrifice around 35% of your frame rate.
This footage was manipulated for making it look worse. By this date, u may now be playing it in gamepass and realized how much the difference is cuz the uploader doesnt even specify the pc setup or the settings, just say max settings rt on.
@@FilmeseSeriesAsiaticashonestly both get boring very quick forza horizon 5 is just emptiness after a hour of playing and motorsport just is a fucking downgrade
Seguirá estando muy por encima del GT7, que da vergüenza. Uno lo voy a tener en Game Pass y el otro me costó 80 pavos. Cada vez estoy más harto de Play Station...
está por encima de gt7, pero no olvidemos que gt7 es un titulo intergeneracional, no deberian compararse, habria que esperar un GT de nueva gen puramente, como este forza.@@antoniogomez7630
@@antoniogomez7630 Mas bien estas harto de ser un pobre muerto de hambre con una series hecessss que te quejas por el precio de los juegos y esperas que te los boten en un servicio, a ver si te pones a trabajar jajajajja O es que te crees que el GTA 6 te lo van a arrojar en el gamepass.
- This video was made with footage from the official 2022 reveal gameplay and the final version of the game on PC with all settings set to maximum and RT enabled.
- Este video se ha realizado con material del reveal gameplay de 2022 oficial y la versión final del juego en PC con todos los settings al máximo y RT activado.
did you turn off gamma display or no because it's looks better than this
Analista, no vi este tipo de comparación con GT7 donde es muchísima mas evidente la diferencia. Creo que se defiende bien el Forza pese a la campaña evidente contra él.
El dia y la noche entre esos dos videos
@@Sheeto1989 Deje de Llorar y acepte la realidad y para que lo sepas GT7 tiene una versión nativa en Ps4 en cambio FM8 no comparte ninguna versión con xbox one donde están esos 12tf?
Que la comparación sea en un PC deja peor aún a Xbox,vaya downgrade
It seems that the release verison completely lacks global illumination from the Sun. And because the lighting model is dynamic, you now cannot have pre-computed GI. So it's like the crucial component of the rendering simply removed. Removed details and reduced draw distance are also noticeable, but don't affect the overall perception that much.
Do you think it would be fixed with an update?
RTGI, they were planning to use it but it got botched from gameplay and only appear in a limited version in replays and garage
It doesn't look as bad to me as this guy uploads the final version, it seems like his graphics are bad.
the ilumination and the colors are bad 😢
@@MangueraPrimeno I've seen it myself the actual graphics are even worse than you would expect from watching this video
It would improve a lot if they remove this weird grey filter. Also they reduced Draw Distance of Foliage, ground looks barren at some distance
The difference in lighting is unacceptable 😭😂
4:32 Especially here, we don't see the text.
Hiding missing assets and textures!
He downed the lighting of the images, its not real game images, this channel is just a load of rubbish
目前还没有RTGI，稍后会添加，图片将与2022年相似。
6:39 this shot exemplifies exactly what bothers me the most about this game. There is something wrong with their light model... a lot of the times cars look dull, sad and out of place. The car paints sometimes has this weird bright glow that make them look like they are wrapped in a matte plastic or something
But look at the edges of the cars, they kooks cleaner in the final version but ofc at the expense of what u just said
compressed vs game capture @@goodToBeConfidential
lets wait and see on the 10 oct
@@goodToBeConfidential I think it's not that they're cleaner, it's just that the trailer used a shallow depth of field compared to gameplay, look how the trees are blurry in the trailer
It seems demo uses more raytracing on cars.
The biggest difference is they made the game look washy,grey,not enough contrast and colours look pale.If they fix it,there won't be that much difference,graphics itself is not that much downgraded,looks fine compared to the reveal.They just need to recalibrate colours and it will be much much better already
Totally agree! Colours supposed to be vivid and not like they have been washed out .........
it also looks like there was drops on resolution on the current version where there were none on the reveal. however there seems to be better road textures and better backgrounds on the current version.
@@dadycommunity2784 Mm?Resolution?You mean 4k?
Why do you think they put disclaimers on not the final build, of course the visuals and gameplay change overtime because its not.
Like Forza Horizon 5, the team will fix and patch all of the intricate stuff later on.
@Siranoxz they never put a disclaimer on the 2022 gameplay reveal though
"the most advanced racing game ever made" my ass lmao
Lmao, this title is for ACC, Automobilista 2 or Rfactor 2. 😂
@@barracadoseuze4213 Imagine what they could do if they had the budget of Turn 10 😭 Or maybe staying independent is what makes them so good 🤔
@@fups1honestly that would be my dream sim or simcade game
And that's why we should never get excited about graphics just from the trailers
FH5 was an exception.
@jlb4685 FH5 is also downgraded, but not this much
WTF are you talking about the 2023 versions looks night and day difference way better with RTAO running tracks more detailed the landscape and trees are more detailed.
@@overheatedeskim054I mean FH5 was a graphics downgrade like he said just not as much
@vyasrushi5177 it's even as big as you make it seem , it still has the core features like ray tracing and ambient occlusion , looks better than any other racer now with the exception of ac with mods
I’m shocked there hasn’t been a bigger backlash about this. It’s so obvious the game was downgraded from that June 2022 reveal. The PC version doesn’t even have global illumination which they said was happening.
There is reddit is fuming, so are the forza Forums. What more can we do?
The game isn't even launched yet. It's just the people who pre-ordered complaining for now. Wait for release next week. It might reach the news :D
Here from the future. Looks the same and performance is god awful in a way that makes no sense for a racing game@@Pupixario
@@PupixarioThat didn't age well...
@@새까막 You guys don't understand my comment it seems. It aged perfectly. I said that it's just a few people complaining back then because the game was not even launched yet. It's so bad that when it launches to the general public it will explode in negative comments. And it has. My comment was a reply to Dan Becker, who was surprised that there isn't a bigger backlash (it was just too early).
Lmao I still remember the director of the game bargging about how advanced tech they were using in this game,now it looks like this.
From the ground up 😂🤡
Ubisoft level of a downgrade
They just nerfed it like crazy
I like Xbox but damn the Downgrade here is something else
Yeah bro, we are in the next generation and we still got a downgrade.
As long as we customer keep supporting turn 10 then we are going to get downgraded graphics. If we don't speak up then it will continue.
Damn
That is quite a downgrade
Thank god i payed for a month of gamepass to test the game
After seeing this , doubt im spending Any money on this game
Si la verdad que si
@@fernando-gk9sj youy dont even own or have gamepass, just a salty virgin basement dweller pony
That's sad, even in the next generation we still get a downgrade.
@@fernando-gk9sjI just played 2 hours and then deleted it, it's nothing like we've seen in the trailer..
I want to see your comparation between forza and GT7
found our instigator
So would I.
It's gonna happen sooner or later and people will be crying in the comments lol
El analista de bits is afraid of doing this comparation 😅😅😅
Haven't seen such a downgrade from a reveal in a long time
reminds of division days lol
Or watchdogs, ha
Dark Souls 2
It’s not even that much of a downgrade 😂
Abandoned, Silent Hills, Metal Gear Zero, TLOU Factions and SW Kotor
I'm one of the biggest Forza fans in the world - and I can honestly say Motorsport is a flop, and we've been blatantly lied to
It's really disappointing isn't it
Is this grounds for a lawsuit against false advertising?
El juego actual se ve increíble, pero joder nos mintieron a la cara, el gameplay del 2022 se miraba un juego mucho más ambicioso, que la iba romper por diferencia en su género.
Dijo nunca nadie:
@@lyonzka77de hecho muchísima gente presumió con el tráiler, pero nadie esperaba un downgrade tan grande
@@angeloxperiax8el downgrade grande está en la iluminación, que en el reveal era por raytracing y ahora no
Castillos en el aire nos dan todos los vende humos estos...Y veras WRC😂que ni culean los coches ni nada gira igual de delante que de atras al menos en los videos, que ni un pro es capaz de conducir de forma realista porque han debido de poner el eje de giro ahi en el centro del coche y...madre mia🙈
Parece que llegaste ayer No conoces a xbox? las mentiras es lo suyo y este video mas claro no puede ser.
"Racing Game Of The Year"
XDDDDDDDDD
Can you imagine what it would be like if they did this in movies? they show you an IMAX ready trailer but the movie was shot on an Android phone
Right. This is called false advertising, but yes, they used words like "Does not represent the final look of the game." to get away with this.
@@End0fst0ryyeah... Would've been nice if that meant it would look even better a year later... But as we can clearly see... Not the case
@@End0fst0ry Motorsport as a whole was just nonstop false advertising. Anything from cars to tons of statements made about being built from the ground up which never was true lmao
Reveal: photo mode
Final: in game
😅
I think photo mode doesn’t change the graphics in Forza games. At least not really noticeably
@@thelionicorn5380
In prior FM and FH games photomode does improve the car model complexity for only the player's car. It is why every single FM/H game has a loading screen to enter photomode. That loading sequence calls in the higher resolution version of the player's car model.
Driveclub instantly switches and starts processing the image as soon as input stops. Users can take photos at any time using the PS4 Share and PS5 Create buttons.
GT games have a loading screen to "prepare the camera," and to be honest their virtual camera does much more than most photomode cams in videogames do... so, maybe the loading is legitimately to pull the requisite logic into RAM because there is no difference in visuals regarding lighting models and LoDs from gameplay to replays. The only difference in LoDs applies to cars in GT7 specifically allowing all cars to be LoD 0 in replay photomode's camera staging mode. The only other difference comes after taking a picture and processing the image. This includes a far higher DoF implementation than realtime rendering allows and significantly more motion samples.
You can take photos in GT7 on PS5 without RT, which reduces image processing time dramatically. The photomode RT is exactly the same quality and resolution as replay mode RT, shadow quality is also unchanged in photomode and with respect to trackside detail, GT7 makes no changes there either when using photomode.
All prior GT games handled Photomode similarly to GT7 (all the way back to GT4 on PS2), with the exception of using LoD 0 cars, that seems new to GT7 on PS5 alone. Photos can be taken as screenshots or saved to allotted game storage and exported to PS5's gallery or uploaded to GT's in-game social media platform via GT7's Showcase menu (similar to how Forza handles image sharing these days).
They lied and told us it's in game engine shots
Can you please do the same comparison with the 2022 reveal trailer and at least the Xbox Series X, and if possible the Series S because the developers specifically stated that the visuals that were shown during the 2022 presentation, including the ra-ytracing scenes were possible on both the Xbox Series X/S which we know is completely not true. Thank you for all your amazing content!
hay gente que llorara por esto
@Loxxus-eo5bq because the game was downgraded. And the only reason why you downgrade a game's graphics is because the hardware is not handling it correctly.
@@crust5909 there's an RT mode on Series X, though not as beautiful as the PC version. Not sure about the Series S though, it's way weaker than the X. I think that was more the guy in charge of the marketing than the dev on this one. What's doable with one car might not be on 24 cars. I guess, having RT with 24 cars is kinda a prowess in itself on those consoles. Are you holding a grudge for a specific reason?
@Loxxus-eo5bq because we've seen not even a PC with it's graphics maxed out could match the reveal trailer, therefore XSX and especially the XSS have no chance
@@Jewoc Problem is the devs/game director appeared in the video and interviews saying those things. It was a flat out lie
This says a lot about modern society
El juego no está mal, pero downgrade tiene y bastante
Yo lo que no entiendo es por que el downgrade en pc?
En consolas el juego esta muy bien , tomando en cuenta el hardware que tienen las consolas , que hayan conseguido 60fps completamente estables con 2 efectos de Raytracing y resolución variable es aplaudible
Es evidente que había que hacer concesiones para conseguirlo, pero el resultado final se sigue viendo excelente.
Pero en pc podían haber empujado el juego a todo lo que da y que la gente ajuste los settings según su ordenador.
No entiendo por que no lo lanzaron como el el gameplay del anuncio
@lawyerlawyer1215 because it was an announcement trailer and not real gameplay is why, ponies pretending to have pc's again
Que????? El mejor juego a la par de su video presentacion. Te compro anteojos si queres.
@@kug4cross969 no entendí xD
En donde está el downgrade xd jajaja están locos y ciegos
You should compare it with XSX version instead of PC max settings.
This gameplay reveal was supposed to show the power of the XSX as mentioned in the description of the original xbox yt channel video.
Absolute majority of pc players have worse gexperience than series x.
@@борисрябушкин-з9нWhat the hell are you talking about?🤦😂
@@борисрябушкин-з9нanyway most console players will be playing it on Series S, which makes up 3/4 of Xbox Series sales. Anyone with an RTX 2000 or an RX 5600 XT and up will be having a better experience.
certamente tivemos um downgrade aqui, acho que o principal para mim são as cores, certas cores no de 2022 estão muito linda e no de 2023 estão um pouco mais opacas e isso faz o de 2023 parecer mais inferior, ainda sim aqui temos o melhor jogo de carro em gráfico e jogabilidade na minha opnião, um ótimo trabalho da turn10.
Edit: O vídeo do El Está com erros e problemas de cores, então desconsidere totalmente as cores e reflexos, o jogo está Muito mais lindo que essas imagens que ele fez essas comparações e ele também não colocou a parte da roda gigante a noite corretamente porquê precisa habilitar isso já que é um festival ou algo tipo, então definitivamente aqui não temos um downgrade grande, são pequenos aspectos que no final do produto não prejudicaram a qualidade do jogo, retiro também oque eu disse sobre o " Excelente vídeo El " já que ele não se preocupou em capturar as imagens corretamente assim como a IGN o fez, portanto para vocês que estão em dúvidas olhem outros comparativo já que aqui foi mal feito.
frankly you speak without knowing GT7. Details, Lightnings, Physics, Tracks, Sound, Steering Wheel... and BassShaker 🎉
GT7 is better in both graphics and gameplay.
Dá a sensação q os carros estão com as cores chapadas, tem hora q fica bem feio
Eu não joguei GT7, mas acho q os modelos dos carros são mais bonitos, e eles fizeram um trabalho nas lanternas q qd acendem passam um realismo absurdo que da gosto de ver
@@kostasbousbouras2654LOL GT7 fell short of expectations and by far has worse graphics.
@@kostasbousbouras2654absolutely no
Well done sir for having this video featured on digital fluent forza downgrade discussion. Your work is being rightfully recognised
I'm guessing you don't have HDR enabled?
The 2022 reveal had RTGI that's missing from the final game. RT reflections have also been downgraded, especially on Xbox. Night lighting is also a step back.
Microsoft have done this for EVERY Forza game ever released! Always! Why is anyone surprised?
Because it’s motorsport the game for GT fans and racing fans who waited so long from 7 to 8 and they hyped it up and showed use false advertising WE WERE NOT EXPECTING THAT THE CAR DETAIL TO LOOK LOWER QUALITY THAN THE LAST GAME. THAT. IS. SOME. BULLSHIT
Sobra decir que hay mucha diferencia sobre todo en la iluminación final, texturas de césped, superficies de pistas, y algo extraño como que los coches han perdido brillo teniendo un tono más apagado;
Algo me dice que la versión PC la han querido adaptar lo más cercana posible a la versión XBOX SERIES X, ya que si no las diferencias habrían sido más que notables,
si os fijáis incluso los reflejos e iluminación con RAY-TRACING en Ultra de PC coinciden casi con SERIES X.
Definitivamente es un muy buen juego y gráficamente está muy bien pero queda lejos de ese gameplay de 2022.
Microsoft nos la ha colado de alguna manera una vez más y seamos honestos,
estas consolas tanto PS5 como SERIES X ya van teniendo sus limitaciones, Series S desde el principio;
Miedo da la llegada de UNREAL-5, mucho está tardando en instaurarse en los nuevos juegos y ya creo entender por qué…
Pues que será lo único que no tiene limitaciones? Una pc de 3000$ con 4080 o 4090? Jajaj hablas como si todos tuvieran una pc de esas, todo el mercado está concentrado en consolas y pc de gama media-baja ya quiero ver el Unreal-5 corriendo en la 1650 que es la tarjeta más usada por los de pc a ver qué dices jajajaj
@@AlejandroGomez-ri2uk lo tienes fácil. Ya tienes demos de unreal 5 para Pc y exigen bastante más de lo que dices para moverse a 4K medianamente fluido.
Quizá no has entendido bien mi comentario o no has querido entenderlo.
Está de moda que los juegos ahora tienen que correr a 4K nativos o escalados y a 60 frames;
Pues los nuevos motores gráficos y ultimas técnicas de renderizado, colisión, sombreado en tiempo real, RT y todo lo que me dejo… son muy pesadas para el ancho de banda de estas consolas en concreto con esa CPU y GPU de tres años.
Que tú con una 1650 vas que chutas? cojonudo, pero juegos nuevos exigentes? no sé a qué resolución ni framerate, Quake II seguro que te irá bien eso sí macho.
@@victorio681 Unreal siempre ha sido así, una demo no basta para declarar lo que dices, en U4 se ve algo similar juegos como Vienes 13 a pesar de usar el mismo motor no se acerca a Gears 5, todo depende de la optimización y no es algo que puedas asegurar en un demo y menos en pc.
La verdad que siempre a pasado eso no? Supongo que lo que hacen siempre es trabajar con el PC y hacen los trailers con dicha plataforma para que se vea lo mejor posible, luego lo intentan correr en consola y ven como se cae a pedazos jajaja, entonces para equiparar lo bajan un poco. Por suerte hay juegos que no han corrido esa mala suerte, hay algunos que en PC están otra generación arriba, por ejemplo Cyberpunk 2077 con Path tracing + DLSS 3.5 y frame generation, Tengo la suerte de poder jugarlo y se ve de lo mejorcito de hoy en dia.
@@Aaronsitooo pues sí, no es con todos claro. Saludos !
I'm enjoying the game but these AAA companies need to stop deceiving us by using pre rendered movies as gameplay.... Should be illegal.
Claramente hay downgrade, bastante ademas, pero de todos modos el resultado final es muy bueno, fuese un Gran Turismo y la que se lía aquí con los haters escupiendo diarrea por la boca xD
Gran turismo 7 se ve mucho mejor
GT7 en ambiente es un poco pobre pero FM 2023 diablos... creo que bajó demasiado la calidad por el Ray Tracing y todo lo demás. Para el colmo la prensa de mrda calificando bien como siempre en vez de ser autocritico y ver las fallas de Turn 10 y lo que es alabado
@@miguelarteaga8669Schwachsinn, GT7 hat einen eher comichaften look, man sieht bei Vergleichen das FM um einiges besser aussieht.
Sogar bei Vergleich zwischen FM7 (2017) und GT7 sehen einige besser aus xD.
GT7 has microtransactions
@@michaelvelez6699 Puedes mencionar un juego de carreras que sea mejor gráficamente que éste Forza? Al menos uno...
Bait and switch. Looks like they spent the most dev time making the 'enhanced' scenes for a trailer than making the actual game.
El downgrade es casi de Ubisoft. El juego en si se ve bien pero se esperaba más después de tanto tiempo.
La parte del time lapse es bestial, tiene clima dinamico pero en estático se le ven las costuras.
Series S didn't help
@QMEGAJump the game looks better then the reveal so the xss didn't effect it in any way
Como Ubi? Porfavor cálmate, esto no es ni cerca al nivel de Ubi.
Downgrade, si
Mintieron, también
Nivel Ubisoft, no
Nada supera a Watch Dogs en cuanto a downgrade
pure example of why you shouldn't trust reveal/E3 gameplays
4:42 D O W N G R A D E.
Fuck this i’ll keep playing Gran Turismo 7 on my Ps5.
Downgrade visual, muito menos efeitos, menos grama, arvores, fumaça, iluminação e detalhes na pista
I said this for almost one month ago "The downgrade is real!" This is my last game from Microsoft. Disgusting.
Yeah, honestly I felt there's something wrong with the graphics the first time I played it, played no more than 2hrs then uninstalled it
Esto lo has hecho con mas juegos o solo con forza?
Todos queremos ver Forza Motosport 8 Vs Gran Turismo 7.
No tiene huevos de hacerlo
Quando joguei já tinha percebido o downgrade. Alguns aspectos bizarros piores que o Forza motorsport 7. Mas agora vendo o video pude ter noção do quanto brutal foi o downgrade, extremamente desapontado com a Microsoft pois se trata de um jogo full next gen nessa situação.
Still the racing game with the best grafic ... 🙄😏.
Looks still really good 😊
No downgrade so you obviously only play gt
É realmente uma diferença, mas não chega a ser brutal comparado com a Ubisoft cara, eu senti isso no Gran turismo 7, mas ninguém falou nada
@maestrodoflameeu n falo é nada
literally upgraded.
It seems like Gran Turismo is more honest than this. They show what is shown in the reveal and final
Creo que la comparativa debería haberse hecho con una Xbox Series X que es donde el juego se promocionaba
Si una PC tiene ese nivel gráfico estando en ULTRA, en Series x debe ser igual.
En bien sabido que la versión de PC debería ser superior, aunque sea por mínimo al de consola.
El problema es que no se especifican las caracteristicas de la pc ni las opciones de graficos añadidas, por eso es mejor si se hace la comparativa en la consola pues las opciones graficas ya vienen establecidas
@@TerebikunDayoSolo hay que leer la descripción, sale claramente que está al máximo com RT activado
@@freddyespinoza5115 ¿ donde se ven unos segundos del juego por los menús donde se vea que está a 8k , que es lo máximo del juego ? ...
No se quizás alguien vio más ....
@@freddyespinoza5115 No especifica que GPU, RAM, CPU y tarjeta madre usa para la comparativa, es a lo que me refiero. Yo uso una RTX 2080 y el juego se ve como en la demo asi que esa comparativa se cae por los suelos desde ese momento. Para que me salgas con un comentario así significa que no tienes ni idea de computadoras o como se deben hacer comparativas.
Lo peor es que nisiquiera en PC se ve como en el trailer
Cierto
Este gameplay de 2023 es de PC
@@kevin00l6 eso fue lo que dijo
Casi todos los juegos que anuncian ningún tráiler se ve como el original, casi siempre hay downgrade en este caso no es para tanto el downgrade he visto peores
Pero si se ve exactamente igual, la única diferencia es en el FOV y la saturación de colores ._ .
FInal version looks like it has GTA IV filter on it
El bajón si se me hace escandaloso la verdad, para ser 2023, si hubiera sido para la generación de ps4 y xbox one a lo mejor lo entiendo
The minute 4:48 is false, it is modified, I have early access and it is not visible towards this false one, which could be the rest of the video.
I have only one thing to say:
XD
(btw. super quality video right here, cheers!)
Nadie dice que el juego no se vea increíble, pero no es el juego que nos mostraron el 2022 😞
El analista apoya play station por eso hace estas comparativas
@@TheMarcopalomaresaja
@@agyl2251busca cualquier Gameplay de Absolutamente Cualquier persona en RUclips que lo juegue en Ultra y verás que en cada escena va Mejor que lo que se ve en el vídeo, obviamente hay un Downgrade pero no es tan abismal y se limita más a cosas que literalmente eran innecesarias en el juego como las plantitas que habían en lugares que el jugador nunca vería o algunas Grietas que tampoco se apreciarían mientras corres, eran una carga absurda de recursos gastados innecesariamente, pero la iluminación en la versión Final no es tan mala como se ve en este video y ni muchísimo menos tan oscura, los reflejos también se ven de mayor calidad y muchas texturas en general, ya te digo que si hay un Downgrade comparado a lo visto en 2022, no lo niego para nada, pero no es un Downgrade como el que se ve en este video que literalmente parece un mal juego de Xbox One en algunos momentos, y ni hablar de los colores que en este video se ven extremadamente apagados y el juego realmente no se ve ni de cerca tan gris, hay un Bug cuando cambias los Gráficos y no reinicias el juego te suceden todos estos errores y Turn10 y Microsoft lanzaron un comunicado advirtiendolo, el Analista simplemente no le importó que su video está mal grabado y no lo eliminó y grabó de nuevo como realmente se debe.
its like they're not even the same game
Vaya pedazo de downgrade que nos comimos, confiaba cuando menos en la versión de PC, parecía que se iban a marcar algo al estilo Playground Games (esa gente son magos), pero pues bueno. Igualmente sigue siendo top gráfico y le voy a meter una cantidad de horas anormal, pero si me encuentro ligeramente decepcionado, un poquitín.
It's a sucks, even in DriveClub the graphics weren't worse than what was in the game trailer, and later the graphics only got better.
It's really better now.
what makes it worse is that this is compared with pc on max settings, so on series x the image quality will be worse. but dont get me wrong, this game still looks good. the only problem is that this game doesnt the same WOW factor like when the first time i saw FM7 gameplay on xbox one x
no, it doesn't look good
Final version looks to washed out, looks to clinic and dark
It's almost like they did that on purpose to come with a series XL and show the true power of the game....or they still need to polish the game and update everything by time.
The game looks like it had the same problem as FM7. Some how being too dark while being overexposed. This has nothing to do with the brightness bug btw.
Look at the maple valley night section. Too dark. And the day looks washed out. Its the developers not implementing environmental lighting and gamma settings correctly. Or the engine just doesnt do lighting well.
4:49 did they want to save electricity??
Forza Downgradesports
Brutal el downgrade!!!
Found the ps5 weak poor mans console user
Where downgrade?
La parte donde se compara al GTR reflejando al Ferrari es totalmente de no creer, el downgrade es tan masivamente brutal que pareciera que el producto final es un juego de Xbox 360. El estudio que hizo este juego criminalmente se rie en la cara de los xboxers.
@@IgnacioEstebanJahnsenMas eles gostam de bosta, continuam elogiando o jogo. Não vejo nenhum fã reclamando.
I absolutely love the song you've chosen.
Could you please let me know which song this is?
La parte donde se compara al GTR reflejando al Ferrari es totalmente de no creer, el downgrade es tan masivamente brutal que pareciera que el producto final es un juego de Xbox 360. El estudio que hizo este juego criminalmente se rie en la cara de los xboxers.
Troll 👎
Ich dachte mir aber damals schon das man so fliegen und dreck nicht am Lack sieht. Obwohl sie es damals angekündigt hatten das das Auto immer dreckiger wird wie im echten.
La verdad es que no te falta razón, tanto como Xbox 360 no pero Xbox One si. Me he llevado una decepción importante cuando he hechado la primera partida. Ya le puse mi reseña en la Store de Xbox.
6:21 sadness, darkness, depression, suicide
Looks like the Demo had raytraced Global Illumination like they promised would be in the game - but isn't. That's why the lighting looks so wrong. They likely wanted it to be an option on the 30fps visuals mode but for some reason couldn't get it in the final code.
Maybe, as always, consoles couldn't look that worse comparing to PC version?
These are sad realities of comforting console brothers ;(
This is honestly false marketing at its prime, and is basically the same thing as Ubisoft downgrades back in 2014. Shame on Turn 10. Built from the ground up my ass. 🙄
More like downgraded from the top
Entiendo este downgrade en la version de consolas, pero por que en PC? Si la consola no puede, no tienes que limitar el PC.
Por qué si no los ponen iguales el cuento de la consola más potente y la series s como nueva gen no se sostiene
@@techzonelabesp Es que en serio creo que la mayoria de personas en este mundo sabe que un ordenador de escritorio puede llegar a ser mucho mas potente que esas consolitas, por que hacen esto? :c
@@FabRx98en series S , no se ve igual que en Series X .
La gente se queja...
Pero si fuera un juego de Sony o Nintendo , quizás con suerte saldría en PC en 5 años...
Venga..
@@NV2A.indi.2021 No entendí bien lo que quisiste decir xd
En la versión de consolas tampoco tiene nada que ver
This is not downgrade, it’s a scam . Shame
Espero con ansias la comparación del forza motorsport vs el gran turismo y ver que tanto se parecen
Jaja pues espera sentado.
Dudo mucho que se atreva a hacer eso
yo tambien estoy esperando :(
Hay mucho bobo diciendo downgrade downgrade, pero mas que un downgrade pareciera un rediseño completo de todos apartados, me refiero a que las texturas y modelos no coinciden del todo, es como si fuese la misma pista en diferentes juetos y eso es muy extraño, el juego sigue siendo un portento tecnico pero esto es extraño
4:37 Esta ha sido mi parte favorita😅
No festival 😢
Estará cerrado el parque de atracciones 😂😂
Se siente depresivo el no tener luces ahi xdn't
Eso fue criminalll jajaj
Time of day makes a huge difference also were you in quality mode if not the game will pull assets out
A pesar de que el juego final se ve muy bien, el downgrade ha sido más que evidente.
Does look the final version good? Yes! But compared to the reval trailer its awful, shame microsoft!
Não queria dizer isso, mas o jogo teve um downgrade absurdo... Ótimo vídeo El Analista!
And we can talk about how some cars still have the same inacurate 3D models from 2005. """Built from the ground up"""
Massive downgrade
Cry the game is more beautiful, probably a PlayStation kiddos
@@Anesthesia-z7x Looks great, but still having downgrade
@@Anesthesia-z7xlmao keep liking your own comment while you cry over this piece of crap of a scam, enjoy your game😊
@@Anesthesia-z7x”built from the ground up” btw Team 10 actually fucked up this one somehow the car detail in older games look better and yes that has been debunked great “built from the ground up” experience right here cope harder
I still find it funny how many times they said built from the ground up.
Veo que la gente está haciendo mucho drama a lo estúpido, Forza no se ve tan mal como lo pintan los Trolls, se ve genial, tiene bien rango dinámico a nivel visual y es fotorrealista, la gente que critica quiere que todo sea colorido o irreal cuando te das cuenta que las pistas en la vida real son super fofas y cuadradas, obviamente tiene carencias pero no al extremo como lo quieren dejar ver.
Se sigue viendo genial claro, pero también ha tenido un recorte gráfico
4:37
6:13
Atleast we save 70 dollars!
Its free on gamepass
eso es lo que les espera a los usuarios de gamepass, juegos de mala calidad hechos con las patas
@@theshiningdoor no
No wonder I've been so underwhelmed with this game. It really just does not look at all like what they previewed. Even on PC.
Ugh... demasiado descarado el downgrade, ademas quitaron cosas super absurdas... y no se, parece como que han puesto los graficos a medio y han dicho venga, eso son los graficos en ultra. Simplemente que dejen a los que tengan un PC potente añadir lo que han quitado xddd.
In this case, it is false advertising. It's not right to do that.. Thanks u for ur vidéo. Turn 10 They take us for idiots.
6:20 No es por ofender pero en esa parte empeoro el juego...
danke dass du mir die augen geöffnet hast. niewieder forza drecksspiel kaufen
Device? Settings? Video without data is pretty pointless vid.
It was defo downgraded. Hope it at least get some update in order to improve some aspects. The final version looks more gray and cold sharpened. Although its a good game.
Caraca cor e iluminação no geral voltou pra geração anterior kkkkk, trailer é sempre enganoso como pode
Ubisoft levels of Bait & Switch
A versão final está muito boa, mas definitivamente é claro que houve uma notável redução na qualidade gráfica. O downgrade em si já faz parte da realidade dos jogos a tempos, mas confesso que esperava que esse novo Forza Motorsport iria fazer jus ao trailer de gameplay, principalmente por está em desenvolvimento a tanto tempo e ser focado na nova geração.
Cara eu nem ligaria para isso se implementassem danos visuais e efetivos no veículo. Tipo pneus estourando, rodas saindo, capô saindo radiador e peças soltando... Nenhum jogo faz e achei que essa geração já permitiria tal evolução.
@@Marlon_Paiva não é questão de geração, pois as marcas não permitem que seus carros sejam destruidos nos games, pode ver qualquer simulador de corrida não tem danos fisicos realistas de verdade, até por questão da diversão, pois acontece muito acidente em inicio de corrida online oq tornaria impossivel para muitos conseguir jogar
@@juans.santos5529 já viu como era no NFS Pro Street de 2009? Tinha muita destruição e peças soltando dos veículos.
@@Marlon_Paiva pois é, mas infelizmente foi a muito tempo isso, nem mesmo o nfs shift que veio logo depois tinha os mesmos danos fisicos, prostreet é muito bom, só foi lançado na hora errada
To give them credit the Ferrari on the final versions chin spoiler does look more rounded and real (less pixelated) at 6:46
So far, it looks like the shadows and lighting were better in the trailer.
Is the gameplay with max settings?
Which platform is the game play footage on?
I just have questions.
I am going to be playing this game on PC when it releases on the 10th since I have Gamepass.
Edit: I also notice that it's at a different time of day, so the light from the sun is casting differently through the trees.
This video was made with footage from the official 2022 reveal gameplay and the final version of the game on PC with all settings set to maximum and RT enabled
next time read the description :)
@@Maxblat Thanks for the information.
I have to say there is drastic difference in road textures on PC between High and Ultra render quality. Ultra is quite taxing though, I play on High as dips to 52fps are annoying and I like to keep some ray tracing on.
And for the lighting - its heavy lifting is actually done by ray tracing, which looks glorious on max settings (as good as in the trailer, just a tad less saturated) but needless to say be prepared to sacrifice around 35% of your frame rate.
This footage was manipulated for making it look worse. By this date, u may now be playing it in gamepass and realized how much the difference is cuz the uploader doesnt even specify the pc setup or the settings, just say max settings rt on.
a partir del 2:18 se desenmascara toda la estafa... madre mía XD
Something's off with the lighting in the final game. It's still gorgeous btw, just a tiny bit of a letdown
medium vs ultra
And why did they wait 6 years?
As they say, mom I want fm8!!!
Son, we already have a normal fm, fm7 at home.
Mom but I want THIS!!!!
Huge downgrade
Theve had all these years experience making forza,what's gone wrong this time around
Forza Horizon 5 looks better than both FM ang GT7 and that was a cross platform XB game.
Agreed
Forza Horizon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forza Downgradesports
@@FilmeseSeriesAsiaticashonestly both get boring very quick forza horizon 5 is just emptiness after a hour of playing and motorsport just is a fucking downgrade
Wow never expected them to pull an Ubisoft
...el downgrade es brutal!!! Y eso que está en PC, no me quiero imaginar en series eses 🤣
"Seres eses" JAKQJAKAJKAJAJAJ
Seguirá estando muy por encima del GT7, que da vergüenza. Uno lo voy a tener en Game Pass y el otro me costó 80 pavos. Cada vez estoy más harto de Play Station...
está por encima de gt7, pero no olvidemos que gt7 es un titulo intergeneracional, no deberian compararse, habria que esperar un GT de nueva gen puramente, como este forza.@@antoniogomez7630
@@antoniogomez7630 Mas bien estas harto de ser un pobre muerto de hambre con una series hecessss que te quejas por el precio de los juegos y esperas que te los boten en un servicio, a ver si te pones a trabajar jajajajja O es que te crees que el GTA 6 te lo van a arrojar en el gamepass.
@@antoniogomez7630 o sea que vas a tener un juego de peor calidad rentado 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡 que fácil es engañarlos 🤘😎
Monstruoso o downgrade! Fosse um jogo da Sony os caixas estavam berrando pro mundo hahahahahahaha
Pues entonces como debe ser el GT7 que queda por debajo del FM 8 visualmente.... 🌚🌝
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