A little nerdy info about Bob Heil, the inventor of the Talk Box (from a St. Louis girl who works at the local history museum, which happened to host a recent exhibit about local pop music history): Bob Heil started as a St. Louis theatre organist. He built HAM radios, which is how he got started "tinkering," and eventually he began building PA systems that were much more powerful than the ones typically used by touring groups/artists. My favorite story about him is how he once got a call from the Grateful Dead, who were supposed to play in St. Louis, but their sound system had been confiscated in a drug bust in New Orleans. Heil built them a brand-new PA system overnight, and it was so much better than their previous system that they took him on tour with them. Heil invented modular mixing consoles that allowed sound techs to fix just one channel rather than having to send back an entire sound board for repairs. Fun fact: The cases of replacement parts also had a slot to hold a quarter so the bands could call Heil on a pay phone for help! His company was the first to build an entire package PA. Anway, early concepts of the Talk Box started in 1939, but Heil developed the first high-powered version in 1973, which he created for Joe Walsh. That got people's attention, and it was picked up by Peter Frampton, and here you see the results! He also invented the quadrophonic mixer for The Who. Heil continued to live and work in St. Louis right up until he passed away earlier this year (February 2024). Just wanted to give a little credit to the man behind the sound!
NEW DRINKING GAME... take a swig every time Elizabeth pauses the video JUST before a section you just KNOW she will love!! (I've been playing for the first 6 minutes and I'm LOADED!!! 😆 Love your reactions!! PS: In my time in radio, I had an anonymous phone call from someone with a british accent who said they were calling for their interview. I said, "Uh... great.... can you just hold for a moment while I get things ready?" I had no interview scheduled and was panicking because I didn't know who it was and there was nobody anywhere in the station who knew. So I rolled a tape and said to the caller, "Okay, sooo, just so I can get a level, can you just say your name for me?".... pause on the line.... "Peter Frampton." It turned out to be the best interview I'd ever done!! Super guy, and criminally underrated artist!
The thing about Frampton that always impressed me is the pure joy he seems to feel when playing the guitar, singing and using the talk box. He really loved performing.
I had a stroke two years ago, and now have Aphasia from it. In the beginning, I could not say my wife's name, but I could sing it in "Happy Birthday." It meant the world to her that I found a way to be able to say it. And even though I still have trouble communicating words, I can sing all of the 70s and 80s music without missing a beat (although I am a terrible singer😂).
oh my goodness That is beautiful and shows how important music is to us. I believe for dementia patience who are no longer speaking can listen to music and its soothes them and brings them joy and she be in every dementia patient room if in a care home. ITS a great Tool as some get agitated as well. I have made sure my family knows if that ever happens to me in some form or another dont forget the music ! you keep on singing sir !! Cheers !
Oh!! Finally a use for my linguistics degree! I can answer your question about why "want you" becomes "wanchu". So, the "t" in "want" is a voiceless alveolar plosive, and the "y" is a voiced palatal approximant. When they run together, they sort of fuse, and the "t" palatalizes, essentially being produced further back in the mouth. However, English doesn't really have palatal plosives, so the articulation shifts the nearest thing that we have, which is an affricate. The voiceless alveolar affricate is the "ch" sound, so that "want you" becomes "wanchu". Hope that makes sense, I'm very out of practice explaining these sorts of things lol
I have no idea what you just said but your earnestness in doing so is so like Elizabeth's that I immediately knew it would make me smile. And it did. Thank you.
@@Firedog-ny3cq Thank you so much, that's very sweet of you! And you made me realize I should explain some of the terminology so everyone can understand better. So, for the "t" sound, I said that's a voiceless alveolar plosive. The voiceless part means that the vocal folds don't vibrate when you make the sound, compared to a voiced alveolar plosive, which would be a "d" sound. The alveolar part means it's produced at the alveolar ridge, which is the ridge on the roof of the mouth right behind your top row of teeth. The plosive part means that it's produced by a complete stoppage of airflow, in this case by the tongue against the alveolar ridge, followed by a release of that airflow. The "y" sound is a voiced palatal approximant. Voiced was already explained above. Palatal means it's produced at the hard palate, which is the middle part of the roof of your moth. An approximant is produced by having your tongue limit airflow between it and the region of articulation (the palate in this case), but not enough to cause turbulence in the airflow. Finally, for the "ch" sound, that's a voiceless palatal affricate. An affricate is a mix between a plosive and a fricative. A fricative is like an approximant, but the gap is narrower and causes turbulence in the airflow. So an affricate starts as a plosive and shifts into a fricative, all in one consonant. In this case, it shifts from a "t" sound to an "sh" sound, forming "ch" as a single consonant. I know that was a big wall of text, but I hope my original explanation makes a bit more sense now. Thank you again for the lovely reply!
"Man...that guy's guitar is talking..." Not only does Frampton absolutely kill it here, but he was humble enough to make fun of himself on the Simpsons.
Peter Frampton's father, A London school teacher, was a huge influence on Peter, but also on David Bowie. Frampton and Bowie were close friends until David died. Years before Bowie requested that he be allowed to visit Frampton's dying father to thank him for his mentorship during Bowie's school years.
I saw that tour also (maybe in Foxboro, Massachusetts?), and as with you it was the only time I saw Bowie live. But I remember Frampton was great. An only slightly related story: I had a college friend who was serving in army intelligence in Berlin and one night at a club found himself on the dance floor a few feet from Bowie in one direction and a few feet from David Byrne in another direction. I asked him who was the better dancer. He said Bowie was good but Byrne was better.
I wish this channel would analyse the studio version of "Rocky Mountain Way", if only to hear the drummer do a great catch-up to keep in time with the looped synth. Because it's in great stereo you can really hear how well he does to keep the groove.
I had the rare honor of sitting on the edge of the stage during soundcheck at a Frampton show I worked at back in 1996. I was just chilling on a break, heard some voices behind me, and there was Peter a couple feet away. A security guard told me I had to move, but Peter told him it was ok if I sat there. He did this song, it was absolutely incredible. We talked backstage after his set, and I hung out with his bass player and had a few beers watching Foreigner do their set. Super cool people.
I love that Frampton plays a roadie in the movie Almost Famous, for the band Humble Pie which was his band in real life before going solo. It’s so tongue in cheek and executed perfectly by Frampton and Cameron Crowe
Hi Elizabeth, Peter Frampton is a criminally underrated performer and guitar player. I've had the pleasure to see him several times. He always looks like he is genuinely having fun. He is also one of the most accomplished guitar players I have ever seen.
So glad he got elected to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He is out there touring right now. I just saw him a couple of months ago. He is feeble in terms of walking, and had to sit in a chair to perform, but his guitar playing and his voice still sounded great! He was also great interacting with the audience, funny, warm and seemed so grateful for his career and his fans. It would be really cool if Elizabeth could analyze a recent performance and see how his voice has held up / changed. Also it would be great if she could interview him about the talkbox! I bet he'd be thrilled to nerd out with Elizabeth.
Before going solo, Frampton played in a band called Humble Pie. Steve Marriott is a voice you need to hear. "30 Days In The Hole" "I Don't Need No Doctor" "Natural Born Boogie" "Black Coffee"
Elizabeth’s comment made me realize she’s never done Cheap Trick (apologies if I missed it somehow). I think it’s about time for “I Want Chew to Want Me.” And then Surrender, of course.
To think this was released when I was a teenager and that he is still performing today says volumes about his stamina and dedication to his craft. Frampton is STILL ALIVE!
You have to remember, when the album "Frampton Comes Alive" was released, the previously "unknown" Peter Frampton shot to instant stardom, and his poster was on EVERY teenage girls bedroom. This actually hurt his career, as Peter Frampton is a PHENOMENAL guitarist, yet his record label wanted to promote him as a teen idol.
OMG...Flashback alert!! I was in what? middle school when this was new. It was EVERYWHERE! Even the singles stations played the full live version. ELO used the vocorder and Frampton had the box. Can't wait to hear Elizabeth's reaction to this! #ShowETheWay!
Elizabeth, I have tears of joy pouring down my cheeks. I feel as if I have wasted my life. I need a time machine so that I can go back 60 years and have music the center of my life. I love Frampton's music, and how you explain what is taking place in the music. You are just gorgeous!
Fun fact: Peter Frampton’s dad was an art teacher, and David Bowie and Peter were in high school together. Dad encouraged both of them to explore art in all forms. What a teacher he must have been.
What an amazing musician. He just made it look effortless. Killing that guitar, that cool talk box and spotless vocals. Its no wonder he was one of the top artists of the 70's.
“Do You Feel Like We Do” (Frampton Comes Alive)….give it a listen. Not for the voice but the music and energy. He’s killing it…the crowd is deafening. For my money, the greatest outro ever! I get chills every time I listen to it
Thank you for this reaction. As a teenager who literally wore out two vinyl copies of Frampton Comes Alive", I instinctively knew Peter Frampton was a great talent, and not just because his sound was appealing to me, personally. I love your extremely knowledgeable breakdown of just how the human body creates these noises we call singing. Please keep up the GREAT work, and never think any of your vocal analysis is in any way "snobbish". Don't change a thing.
Seen him multiple times over the years. He consistently has gotten better over time. The last show I went to, Jason Bonham's John Bonham Experience opened with an absolute killer show then Frampton came on & played for a 3 hours. Simply amazing. Elizabeth, if he is in your area you MUST see him live.
Peter Frampton was known as the artist who made the talk box famous. Peter Frampton's talk box was used to transfer the guitar's sound through a plastic tube attached to a microphone. The effect is Peter Frampton's melodic guitar simulating speech while asking the audience on the live track "Do You Feel Like We Do?" Peter Frampton also now sells his own line of custom-designed "Frampton" products, including the talk box. Also, "Frampton Comes Alive!" is one of the greatest live albums of all time.
She also needs to do a little research into Bob Heil and Heil Sound. Bob is the one who designed the talk box and many great microphones and speaker systems for bands. And, there are many stories that abound telling of the things he did to help bands back in the 70's.
yeah in "the pubic. here's Jeff Beck's view "Did the mouth bag become a burden in the same way that Freeway Jam did? “Yeah. Years ago, I checked into a hotel and the radio had been left on in the room. And I heard the bag being used, and it was Frampton Comes Alive! they were playing. [Frampton reportedly used a Heil Talk Box on the recording]. “I thought, Wait a minute, someone’s bootlegged my album, ’cause no one else was using that thing at that time. But it was Peter Frampton. And that was the abrupt end to my use of the bag. From that night on, I never used it.”
Maybe you should invite him to be on your show. I bet it would be an epic interview. I have loved Peter Frampton since I was in middle school. He is just so talented. Bless you.
He is really an icon in this industry, a LIVE album right out the gate and it took off ! Just fantastic stuff an excellent guitar player and a great unique voice. WE are so lucky to have him and he is still touring and playing with Ringo Stars Band and He looks and says he is having a blast ! I mean what more can you ask for in life ! His start was SO unique and its a fantastic live album.
The first LP vinyl record I ever bought I was a 10 year old kid was Frampton Comes Alive. Almost 50 years later I just went to my first Frampton concert 6 months ago. I am aware Peter has suffered disabilities thus my expectations were low. Of all of the concerts I’ve been to throughout my life, this was by far the biggest surprise ever. He and the band were absolutely amazing. Every bit as good or better than the original recording. They are a must see. The way Peter engages the crowd is phenomenal. His talent blew me away. It was also very cool hanging out and talking to his band mates out front of the casino before they departed the casino.
Had the pleasure of seeing Frampton live here in Houston several years ago. Such a phenomenal show. He started the show with a cover of Superstitious and closed with a cover of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I’ll never forget that show. Such a talented guitarist and singer.
Those days when Peter became huge was absolutely insane. The album "Frampton Comes Alive" was so good. It became vital to go see him live. It was an amazing show. I had heard him in Humble Pie many times before. It is shocking he was only inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame this year. Many people were so angry about that. Including me! He is also a great guitar player!
You are wonderful! Music has such a deep place in my soul. As a pre-teen in the Bootheel of Missouri I listened to WEBG Boston on a hand set radio that looked like a walkie talkie. So many nights I would go to sleep listening to what I thought was another world. Vocals was never a thing I thought about. In sixth grade started band, first on a coronet (sucked at that one), and then on to French Horn (quite successful attaining a 4-year music scholarship). Along the way, and during the music scholarship, I was required to take vocal classes. Simply put, I love music. You have a wonderful place in my life presenting, interpreting, and explaining so well. Blessings to you an your family. You are wonderful!
Another great job Elizabeth - I love watching you break down the details on these old timeless classics. Another talk box one to consider is Steely Dan - Haitian Divorce from 1976...
Although Frampton was only 26 when "Frampton Comes Alive" was released, he was already an experience veteran, having been performing since age 12 (with David Bowie). The fact that you like his singing, indicates his "hidden talents", as Frampton was considered on of the best guitarists of his era - until the release of the Frampton Come Alive album, when sadly, he was promoted as a "teen idol" . Frampton was ALWAYS a Guitarist first, and a singer second.
I don't know about everyone else but, I absolutely love it when Elizabeth geeks out about voice science! My choral teacher in high school used to give great lectures about how sound is produced and how we could use it and control it for the best effect; whether it was for classical music, jazz or rock and roll. RIP Mr. Geise.
I just love this lady. When she’s watching those videos, she looks like a child in awe. Love her expressions and her laugh. She honestly has to be one of the cutest people I’ve ever seen. I also appreciate that I am able to listen to these songs that I’ve heard for years, from a new angle! Thank you Elizabeth, you are my new favorite music listening partner.
I was lucky enough to see Gary Wright, Yes, and Peter Frampton at RFK Stadium when Peter was touring behind this music in the late 70s. I was more into Yes, but the whole concert was excellent.
I saw Peter Frampton around about 20 years ago, and one of the things that came across most clearly was his sheer love of playing and performing, how much he was enjoying himself. He's one of the few people I get the feeling would still want to play, even if it was to two people and a dog.
Last I saw, despite his health issues, he is still performing. Saw a recent video of him with Joe Bonamassa on one of JB's Keeping The Blues Alive performances. Two guitar masters killing it...and having a blast.
I truly believe I was a teenager at one of the most perfect musical time periods! I saw so many great performers live in the 75 to 1980's! Peter was amazing live! Such a performer and total talent!
Here we go again! Hearing this song always transports me back to simpler times in the mid/late 70’s in Victoria Australia. Summer surf with friends, weekends sleeping in the van, the Torquay Pub going off, surf shops that smelt like fibreglass, girls and waking to the sound of the surf. Thank you for this latest trip back in time.
I have used a talk box. It was way back around 1980. it's kind of like having a speaker inside your mouth rattling your teeth. You are correct. No sound is required from your vocal chords. You simply make mouth shapes to color the sound being blasted into your mouth from the tube. Then, your vocal mic pick that shaped sound up and sends it out through the sound system.
This brings back memories from 1976 when I saw Peter Frampton during his Frampton Comes Alive tour. It was good then and it’s still good 48 years later.
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the talkbox reaction videos, but some of us older Gen Xers, who grew up listening to Frampton on the radio (or on albums), didn't know how that sound effect was being created. I always assumed that it was special guitar distortion or synthesizers. We didn't have the Internet to look up details about these songs, techniques, or even the band. These videos weren't aired on commercial TV. Album Oriented Rock (AOR) DJs rarely talked about how songs were done. I guess if you subscribed to rock fan magazines, you could learn more. I didn't learn about the talkbox technique until watching reaction videos in recent years. I do love this gushing reaction and technical explainer to one of my favorite songs.
Renee want to my Alma matter. She is stupid talented. The fact that she went to my college is a supreme source of pride. The Crane School of Music in Potsdam, NY is super influential. I roomed with Crane students while there. Never felt more at home despite being a Math student. That incredible school defined me as a person. The music at Crane and the art at the Brainerd gallery are amazingly influential. It’s a small town with less than 10,000 residents. Then the colleges come. Yeah, that is another legendary college there. Clarkson University. I attended both and came out with a math teaching degree. I lived with musicians at SUNY Potsdam. They were among my closest friends. Amazing school.
Just to let you know, ..... for those of us who this was the soundtrack to our life growing up, all the subtleties you reference to were ingrained into our psyche during the many years of this playing on the radio that we all inherently absorbed as magic into our souls. Now, listening to it today immediately transports us all back into the past, while radiating our present with the warm joys & passions spawned from our memories of that time.
I’m about halfway through the video, and I’m waiting for Elizabeth to say something about the backing vocals/harmonies. I think they’re spot on. They sound as good as a studio recording.
Joe Walsh was the first user of the Heil Talkbox, The first one was built for his Barnstorm tour in 1972/73 and it was picked up the following year by David Gilmour. Peter Frampton started using it a year after that.
While we're in the golden age of rock, let's get Elizabeth to do Humble Pie's I Don't Need No Doctor - and it HAS to be the live version with The Blackberries... The Midnight Special video originally filmed on November 30th, 1973. 1 incredible lead singer (Steve Marriot), 6 backup vocalists, dance moves, musical/vocal dynamics, a butterscotch leather suit, and, well, it pretty much defines the 70's music scene, at least for me. Even if we never get Elizabeth to do it, check it out for yourselves - it's just that awesome. It's so good that I was 8 when it came out, and my dad made sure I was awake to witness its complete aural glory on the original broadcast date!
I really enjoy your videos. Your joy and enthusiasm, - your face which is so changing in expression, plus the way you enunciate when analysing the performance. I wonder, however, if many of the 60's, 70's or 80's singers were ever aware of the technical build of their voice ? In my mind, as an amateur singer and teen of the 70's, most of those girls and boys from the pop music world were creative, naturally gifted talents ?
I've been lucky enough to see Peter Frampton in concert a number of times when he was living in Cincinnati, Ohio. He enjoyed living in Cincinnati because he could move around the city without needing security. Because of his love for the city, he always made sure to play at least one concert per year at the Riverbend Music Center which is down on the Ohio river. He's a great performer.
Thank you for mentioning the expansiveness of the affect of music on the brain, and for bringing up the subject of music therapy. The science of music is a fantastic area for learning.
The talk box is a fun effect to play with. It uses all the same parts as singing, just without the vocal chords. Mouth shape, tongue position, throat shape, it all changes the tonal quality of the sound being produced.
I've seen him twice in the past year and have tix for another show.He has problems walking , but he sounds amazing!! Vocally and his guitar playing really is on another level. Humble man, great Rick Beato interview a few years back. I just wanna have a beer with him! You so rock! Operatically!!
Love Peter Frampton! Saw the FCA-35 Tour in Long Beach, CA. What a wonderful night it was, as Peter and the band played the whole FCA album, plus many other hits… I was so in love with his Les Paul Black Beauty Phoenix, I went and bought a signature guitar (#285)…
@briankuczynski4375. Another talk box classic - “Hair Of The Dog” by Nazareth. And “Those Shoes” - The Eagles (and played live with twin talk box guitars from Joe Walsh and Steuart Smith). However, you have to be careful with the talk box device. I used to follow an Eagles tribute band here in the U.K. who included Joe Walsh’s “Rocky Mountain Way” in their live set. The guitarist using the talk box inadvertently had it set too loud/high. After a few gigs, he found that playing with the talk box had loosened some of his back teeth! So he parked the device and replaced it with a guitar effects pedal that near enough copied the talk box sound. Stay safe and well.
A little nerdy info about Bob Heil, the inventor of the Talk Box (from a St. Louis girl who works at the local history museum, which happened to host a recent exhibit about local pop music history):
Bob Heil started as a St. Louis theatre organist. He built HAM radios, which is how he got started "tinkering," and eventually he began building PA systems that were much more powerful than the ones typically used by touring groups/artists. My favorite story about him is how he once got a call from the Grateful Dead, who were supposed to play in St. Louis, but their sound system had been confiscated in a drug bust in New Orleans. Heil built them a brand-new PA system overnight, and it was so much better than their previous system that they took him on tour with them.
Heil invented modular mixing consoles that allowed sound techs to fix just one channel rather than having to send back an entire sound board for repairs. Fun fact: The cases of replacement parts also had a slot to hold a quarter so the bands could call Heil on a pay phone for help! His company was the first to build an entire package PA.
Anway, early concepts of the Talk Box started in 1939, but Heil developed the first high-powered version in 1973, which he created for Joe Walsh. That got people's attention, and it was picked up by Peter Frampton, and here you see the results! He also invented the quadrophonic mixer for The Who. Heil continued to live and work in St. Louis right up until he passed away earlier this year (February 2024). Just wanted to give a little credit to the man behind the sound!
Thanks for sharing that. I am going to have to do more digging. Fascinating!
Thanx for the info!
Very interesting, thanks for sharing! I enjoy understanding the electronics of sound transduction.
Heil microphones
Thank you very much!
That song ruled the airwaves in the Spring of 1976, as a teen I remember it well, everyone was happy, happy, happy.
Year I was born an I’m happy by disposition, interesting
I was 10....with older sisters and brother...got to hear all of the 70's best
I was 16 when this came out.
It's just crazy how "Frampton Comes Alive" was so much above his studio work and skyrocketed him into super stardom. Everyone had this album.
the whole album was out of htis world brilliant and First album of his is LIVE !? and it takes off He will always be remembered for that !
NEW DRINKING GAME... take a swig every time Elizabeth pauses the video JUST before a section you just KNOW she will love!! (I've been playing for the first 6 minutes and I'm LOADED!!! 😆 Love your reactions!!
PS: In my time in radio, I had an anonymous phone call from someone with a british accent who said they were calling for their interview. I said, "Uh... great.... can you just hold for a moment while I get things ready?" I had no interview scheduled and was panicking because I didn't know who it was and there was nobody anywhere in the station who knew. So I rolled a tape and said to the caller, "Okay, sooo, just so I can get a level, can you just say your name for me?".... pause on the line.... "Peter Frampton." It turned out to be the best interview I'd ever done!! Super guy, and criminally underrated artist!
I don't think my liver could take it.
Great idea, but unfortunately not one that most viewers could survive!
The thing about Frampton that always impressed me is the pure joy he seems to feel when playing the guitar, singing and using the talk box. He really loved performing.
Totally. And never seemed to take himself too seriously.
His game went up 200 percent when he was in front of an audience.
@@rabrown22000 And that might be why Frampton Comes Alive is by far his best selling album.
@@Chuck_W59 I'll check that out. Thanks for the recommendation.
he is still performing he plays and tours with Ringo star band of talented people. so he is still loving it !
I had a stroke two years ago, and now have Aphasia from it. In the beginning, I could not say my wife's name, but I could sing it in "Happy Birthday." It meant the world to her that I found a way to be able to say it.
And even though I still have trouble communicating words, I can sing all of the 70s and 80s music without missing a beat (although I am a terrible singer😂).
oh my goodness That is beautiful and shows how important music is to us. I believe for dementia patience who are no longer speaking can listen to music and its soothes them and brings them joy and she be in every dementia patient room if in a care home. ITS a great Tool as some get agitated as well. I have made sure my family knows if that ever happens to me in some form or another dont forget the music ! you keep on singing sir !! Cheers !
That's wonderful, and shows you're a warrior. I love playing music so much that I'd give up my sight before my hearing at this point in my life (59).
Sing to your hearts content. Best in your future.
Oh!! Finally a use for my linguistics degree! I can answer your question about why "want you" becomes "wanchu". So, the "t" in "want" is a voiceless alveolar plosive, and the "y" is a voiced palatal approximant. When they run together, they sort of fuse, and the "t" palatalizes, essentially being produced further back in the mouth. However, English doesn't really have palatal plosives, so the articulation shifts the nearest thing that we have, which is an affricate. The voiceless alveolar affricate is the "ch" sound, so that "want you" becomes "wanchu". Hope that makes sense, I'm very out of practice explaining these sorts of things lol
I have no idea what you just said but your earnestness in doing so is so like Elizabeth's that I immediately knew it would make me smile. And it did. Thank you.
@@Firedog-ny3cq Thank you so much, that's very sweet of you! And you made me realize I should explain some of the terminology so everyone can understand better.
So, for the "t" sound, I said that's a voiceless alveolar plosive. The voiceless part means that the vocal folds don't vibrate when you make the sound, compared to a voiced alveolar plosive, which would be a "d" sound. The alveolar part means it's produced at the alveolar ridge, which is the ridge on the roof of the mouth right behind your top row of teeth. The plosive part means that it's produced by a complete stoppage of airflow, in this case by the tongue against the alveolar ridge, followed by a release of that airflow.
The "y" sound is a voiced palatal approximant. Voiced was already explained above. Palatal means it's produced at the hard palate, which is the middle part of the roof of your moth. An approximant is produced by having your tongue limit airflow between it and the region of articulation (the palate in this case), but not enough to cause turbulence in the airflow.
Finally, for the "ch" sound, that's a voiceless palatal affricate. An affricate is a mix between a plosive and a fricative. A fricative is like an approximant, but the gap is narrower and causes turbulence in the airflow. So an affricate starts as a plosive and shifts into a fricative, all in one consonant. In this case, it shifts from a "t" sound to an "sh" sound, forming "ch" as a single consonant.
I know that was a big wall of text, but I hope my original explanation makes a bit more sense now. Thank you again for the lovely reply!
👍 you reignited my linguistic memories.
How about the “t” sound as pronounced in “posh” English accent? Is that plosive?
@@jenn288 I'm afraid I don't really know what you mean by a "posh" accent. I would probably need to hear an example to be able to say.
"Man...that guy's guitar is talking..." Not only does Frampton absolutely kill it here, but he was humble enough to make fun of himself on the Simpsons.
Singers like him draw into the song. Like your reactions I'm drawn into your explanations. Cool!!!
Same album, "Do you feel like I do" is the mother of all talk box tunes. Soooo good.
"Whoah my shoes are talking"
Like the humble in Humble Pie?
Yup. Never seemed to take himself too seriously.
Peter Frampton's father, A London school teacher, was a huge influence on Peter, but also on David Bowie. Frampton and Bowie were close friends until David died. Years before Bowie requested that he be allowed to visit Frampton's dying father to thank him for his mentorship during Bowie's school years.
The only time I saw Bowie live was the Glass Spider tour and Frampton was his guitarist, it felt like 2 legends for the price of one.
Peter's father, Owen Frampton
I saw that tour also (maybe in Foxboro, Massachusetts?), and as with you it was the only time I saw Bowie live. But I remember Frampton was great.
An only slightly related story: I had a college friend who was serving in army intelligence in Berlin and one night at a club found himself on the dance floor a few feet from Bowie in one direction and a few feet from David Byrne in another direction. I asked him who was the better dancer. He said Bowie was good but Byrne was better.
You cant imagine how big this album was at the time! Such great memories❤
Huge! We were all obsessed!
It was the theme of the summer of '76. The concert of his truly with Gary Wright and Fleetwood Mac was magical (and my first concert).
Yes!
It was big. Looking back I think it was overrated. And I owned it back in the day.
at some point everyone had this album
Now give Joe Walsh s guitar solo on the talk box a listen during Rocky mountain way
Glad someone mentioned Joe. Another innovator.
I wish this channel would analyse the studio version of "Rocky Mountain Way", if only to hear the drummer do a great catch-up to keep in time with the looped synth. Because it's in great stereo you can really hear how well he does to keep the groove.
@@KenRoerden I totally agree
Came here to say the same thing.
I second that motion!
OMG! Elizabeth, you should interview Peter Frampton! #peterframpton #talkbox
I’m sure he’d be very much up for that, seems like a really friendly guy
I had the rare honor of sitting on the edge of the stage during soundcheck at a Frampton show I worked at back in 1996. I was just chilling on a break, heard some voices behind me, and there was Peter a couple feet away. A security guard told me I had to move, but Peter told him it was ok if I sat there. He did this song, it was absolutely incredible. We talked backstage after his set, and I hung out with his bass player and had a few beers watching Foreigner do their set. Super cool people.
I love that Frampton plays a roadie in the movie Almost Famous, for the band Humble Pie which was his band in real life before going solo. It’s so tongue in cheek and executed perfectly by Frampton and Cameron Crowe
Hi Elizabeth, Peter Frampton is a criminally underrated performer and guitar player. I've had the pleasure to see him several times. He always looks like he is genuinely having fun. He is also one of the most accomplished guitar players I have ever seen.
Elizabeth, he is the nicest person you could ever meet.
So glad he got elected to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He is out there touring right now. I just saw him a couple of months ago. He is feeble in terms of walking, and had to sit in a chair to perform, but his guitar playing and his voice still sounded great! He was also great interacting with the audience, funny, warm and seemed so grateful for his career and his fans. It would be really cool if Elizabeth could analyze a recent performance and see how his voice has held up / changed. Also it would be great if she could interview him about the talkbox! I bet he'd be thrilled to nerd out with Elizabeth.
Inducted not elected
Before going solo, Frampton played in a band called Humble Pie. Steve Marriott is a voice you need to hear.
"30 Days In The Hole"
"I Don't Need No Doctor"
"Natural Born Boogie"
"Black Coffee"
Yes yes definitely she needs to hear Marriott. Paul Stanley credits Marriott as the prime inspiration for his own stage persona.
Yes 30 days in the hole and Tin Soldier
Four Day Creep from the live at the Filmore album.
They do a really nice cover of "hallelujah, I just love her so" on Live At the Fillmore
Absolutely
Elizabeth, " I WANT CHEW" , to keep doing these reactions because I love them.😂👍🍀
Elizabeth’s comment made me realize she’s never done Cheap Trick (apologies if I missed it somehow). I think it’s about time for “I Want Chew to Want Me.” And then Surrender, of course.
Came here looking for this comment. Lol. Now she has to review I Want You to Want Me!
Peter Frampton shows Elizabeth the way to another great Talkbox song.
To think this was released when I was a teenager and that he is still performing today says volumes about his stamina and dedication to his craft. Frampton is STILL ALIVE!
You have to remember, when the album "Frampton Comes Alive" was released, the previously "unknown" Peter Frampton shot to instant stardom, and his poster was on EVERY teenage girls bedroom. This actually hurt his career, as Peter Frampton is a PHENOMENAL guitarist, yet his record label wanted to promote him as a teen idol.
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My father was one of his neurologists after his accident. All my dad said was he was a "really nice kid"
hahaha That's a cool story. 👍
Love Peter, his Comes Alive is a MASTERWORK!!!
OMG...Flashback alert!! I was in what? middle school when this was new. It was EVERYWHERE! Even the singles stations played the full live version. ELO used the vocorder and Frampton had the box. Can't wait to hear Elizabeth's reaction to this! #ShowETheWay!
Elizabeth, I have tears of joy pouring down my cheeks. I feel as if I have wasted my life. I need a time machine so that I can go back 60 years and have music the center of my life. I love Frampton's music, and how you explain what is taking place in the music. You are just gorgeous!
Fun fact: Peter Frampton’s dad was an art teacher, and David Bowie and Peter were in high school together. Dad encouraged both of them to explore art in all forms. What a teacher he must have been.
Frampton comes alive was mandatory for any rock fan in the 70s.
What an amazing musician. He just made it look effortless. Killing that guitar, that cool talk box and spotless vocals. Its no wonder he was one of the top artists of the 70's.
He really connects not only with the audience, but with his band mates too.
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“Do You Feel Like We Do” (Frampton Comes Alive)….give it a listen. Not for the voice but the music and energy.
He’s killing it…the crowd is deafening.
For my money, the greatest outro ever!
I get chills every time I listen to it
She’s already done it
@@AP-sg2ut Didn't know that...thanks! I need to check that one out.
This is the big daddy talk box song on that album. Love it!
I mean do you feel...
Peter Frampton is a joy, and a world's treasure. Thank you Elizabeth for delving into his music.
Thank you for this reaction. As a teenager who literally wore out two vinyl copies of Frampton Comes Alive", I instinctively knew Peter Frampton was a great talent, and not just because his sound was appealing to me, personally. I love your extremely knowledgeable breakdown of just how the human body creates these noises we call singing. Please keep up the GREAT work, and never think any of your vocal analysis is in any way "snobbish". Don't change a thing.
Seen him multiple times over the years. He consistently has gotten better over time. The last show I went to, Jason Bonham's John Bonham Experience opened with an absolute killer show then Frampton came on & played for a 3 hours. Simply amazing. Elizabeth, if he is in your area you MUST see him live.
Peter Frampton was known as the artist who made the talk box famous. Peter Frampton's talk box was used to transfer the guitar's sound through a plastic tube attached to a microphone. The effect is Peter Frampton's melodic guitar simulating speech while asking the audience on the live track "Do You Feel Like We Do?" Peter Frampton also now sells his own line of custom-designed "Frampton" products, including the talk box.
Also, "Frampton Comes Alive!" is one of the greatest live albums of all time.
She also needs to do a little research into Bob Heil and Heil Sound. Bob is the one who designed the talk box and many great microphones and speaker systems for bands. And, there are many stories that abound telling of the things he did to help bands back in the 70's.
Didn't Mike Myers say that it was issued like detergent samples in Scarborough ion the 70s
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Did you forget about Zapp and Rodger?
yeah in "the pubic. here's Jeff Beck's view
"Did the mouth bag become a burden in the same way that Freeway Jam did?
“Yeah. Years ago, I checked into a hotel and the radio had been left on in the room. And I heard the bag being used, and it was Frampton Comes Alive! they were playing. [Frampton reportedly used a Heil Talk Box on the recording].
“I thought, Wait a minute, someone’s bootlegged my album, ’cause no one else was using that thing at that time. But it was Peter Frampton. And that was the abrupt end to my use of the bag. From that night on, I never used it.”
Maybe you should invite him to be on your show. I bet it would be an epic interview.
I have loved Peter Frampton since I was in middle school. He is just so talented.
Bless you.
That generosity to the audience -- as you put it -- is a HUGE factor why his "Frampton Comes Alive" album became such a monster hit.
A lot of people hate his big follow up single "I'm in You"... but I have always really liked it. It's a very earnest, beautiful love song.
Yes! A lovely song. 💖
Zappa had a bit of fun with it on "Sheik Yerbouti".
He is really an icon in this industry, a LIVE album right out the gate and it took off ! Just fantastic stuff an excellent guitar player and a great unique voice. WE are so lucky to have him and he is still touring and playing with Ringo Stars Band and He looks and says he is having a blast ! I mean what more can you ask for in life ! His start was SO unique and its a fantastic live album.
The first LP vinyl record I ever bought I was a 10 year old kid was Frampton Comes Alive. Almost 50 years later I just went to my first Frampton concert 6 months ago. I am aware Peter has suffered disabilities thus my expectations were low. Of all of the concerts I’ve been to throughout my life, this was by far the biggest surprise ever. He and the band were absolutely amazing. Every bit as good or better than the original recording. They are a must see. The way Peter engages the crowd is phenomenal. His talent blew me away. It was also very cool hanging out and talking to his band mates out front of the casino before they departed the casino.
Had the pleasure of seeing Frampton live here in Houston several years ago. Such a phenomenal show. He started the show with a cover of Superstitious and closed with a cover of While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I’ll never forget that show. Such a talented guitarist and singer.
Those days when Peter became huge was absolutely insane. The album "Frampton Comes Alive" was so good. It became vital to go see him live. It was an amazing show. I had heard him in Humble Pie many times before. It is shocking he was only inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame this year. Many people were so angry about that. Including me! He is also a great guitar player!
You are wonderful! Music has such a deep place in my soul. As a pre-teen in the Bootheel of Missouri I listened to WEBG Boston on a hand set radio that looked like a walkie talkie. So many nights I would go to sleep listening to what I thought was another world. Vocals was never a thing I thought about. In sixth grade started band, first on a coronet (sucked at that one), and then on to French Horn (quite successful attaining a 4-year music scholarship). Along the way, and during the music scholarship, I was required to take vocal classes. Simply put, I love music. You have a wonderful place in my life presenting, interpreting, and explaining so well.
Blessings to you an your family. You are wonderful!
Another great job Elizabeth - I love watching you break down the details on these old timeless classics. Another talk box one to consider is Steely Dan - Haitian Divorce from 1976...
Now we need a deep dive into his old playmate Steve Marriott: one of the most soulful voices of the 70’s.
I saw Frampton in 2018 and 2019. He is a fabulous guitarist, you can tell he loves performing. He is really a genuinely nice guy
There is no creepy. Just love
Although Frampton was only 26 when "Frampton Comes Alive" was released, he was already an experience veteran, having been performing since age 12 (with David Bowie). The fact that you like his singing, indicates his "hidden talents", as Frampton was considered on of the best guitarists of his era - until the release of the Frampton Come Alive album, when sadly, he was promoted as a "teen idol" . Frampton was ALWAYS a Guitarist first, and a singer second.
I don't know about everyone else but, I absolutely love it when Elizabeth geeks out about voice science!
My choral teacher in high school used to give great lectures about how sound is produced and how we could use it and control it for the best effect; whether it was for classical music, jazz or rock and roll.
RIP Mr. Geise.
I just love this lady. When she’s watching those videos, she looks like a child in awe. Love her expressions and her laugh.
She honestly has to be one of the cutest people I’ve ever seen.
I also appreciate that I am able to listen to these songs that I’ve heard for years, from a new angle!
Thank you Elizabeth, you are my new favorite music listening partner.
I was lucky enough to see Gary Wright, Yes, and Peter Frampton at RFK Stadium when Peter was touring behind this music in the late 70s. I was more into Yes, but the whole concert was excellent.
I will never forget when I first heard the song in '75. I was 10 and became a big fan. Then Frampton Comes Alive. It changed everything in 1976.
I saw Peter Frampton around about 20 years ago, and one of the things that came across most clearly was his sheer love of playing and performing, how much he was enjoying himself. He's one of the few people I get the feeling would still want to play, even if it was to two people and a dog.
Last I saw, despite his health issues, he is still performing. Saw a recent video of him with Joe Bonamassa on one of JB's Keeping The Blues Alive performances. Two guitar masters killing it...and having a blast.
I saw a gig of his on PBS. He killed it. Did fantastic Soundgarden cover as well.
Growing up with depression i truly survived living from one U2 album till the next! Music saved my life!❤
I truly believe I was a teenager at one of the most perfect musical time periods! I saw so many great performers live in the 75 to 1980's! Peter was amazing live! Such a performer and total talent!
Aww...first concert I ever went to was Peter Frampton. 1979. Blue Oyster Cult opened. I had such a crush on him....❤
I love the joy with which he is performing.
SO many years later I still love Peter Frampton. Such a great voice & just the nicest guy.
Here we go again!
Hearing this song always transports me back to simpler times in the mid/late 70’s in Victoria Australia. Summer surf with friends, weekends sleeping in the van, the Torquay Pub going off, surf shops that smelt like fibreglass, girls and waking to the sound of the surf.
Thank you for this latest trip back in time.
I have used a talk box. It was way back around 1980. it's kind of like having a speaker inside your mouth rattling your teeth. You are correct. No sound is required from your vocal chords. You simply make mouth shapes to color the sound being blasted into your mouth from the tube. Then, your vocal mic pick that shaped sound up and sends it out through the sound system.
This brings back memories from 1976 when I saw Peter Frampton during his Frampton Comes Alive tour. It was good then and it’s still good 48 years later.
Don't know if this has been mentioned in the talkbox reaction videos, but some of us older Gen Xers, who grew up listening to Frampton on the radio (or on albums), didn't know how that sound effect was being created. I always assumed that it was special guitar distortion or synthesizers. We didn't have the Internet to look up details about these songs, techniques, or even the band. These videos weren't aired on commercial TV. Album Oriented Rock (AOR) DJs rarely talked about how songs were done. I guess if you subscribed to rock fan magazines, you could learn more.
I didn't learn about the talkbox technique until watching reaction videos in recent years. I do love this gushing reaction and technical explainer to one of my favorite songs.
Renee want to my Alma matter. She is stupid talented. The fact that she went to my college is a supreme source of pride. The Crane School of Music in Potsdam, NY is super influential. I roomed with Crane students while there. Never felt more at home despite being a Math student. That incredible school defined me as a person. The music at Crane and the art at the Brainerd gallery are amazingly influential. It’s a small town with less than 10,000 residents. Then the colleges come. Yeah, that is another legendary college there. Clarkson University. I attended both and came out with a math teaching degree. I lived with musicians at SUNY Potsdam. They were among my closest friends. Amazing school.
Just to let you know, ..... for those of us who this was the soundtrack to our life growing up, all the subtleties you reference to were ingrained into our psyche during the many years of this playing on the radio that we all inherently absorbed as magic into our souls. Now, listening to it today immediately transports us all back into the past, while radiating our present with the warm joys & passions spawned from our memories of that time.
I’m about halfway through the video, and I’m waiting for Elizabeth to say something about the backing vocals/harmonies. I think they’re spot on. They sound as good as a studio recording.
The amount of times she kept going back and becoming excited, I think our host just fancied him. He was a very goodlooking young man then......
Another great band from back then with a couple of played everyday by Rock stations everywhere is Golden Earing - Radar Love, Twilight Zone.
Peter would be a FANTASTIC interview!
Dear Santa, Elizabeth has been great all year and would like a
a talk box for Christmas!
Joe Walsh was the first user of the Heil Talkbox, The first one was built for his Barnstorm tour in 1972/73 and it was picked up the following year by David Gilmour. Peter Frampton started using it a year after that.
Check out a guy named Pete Drake who used the TB on his Steel guitar. Song is "Forever". One of the first uses.
"Lines on My Face" --- It's a must hit Peter Frampton song.
You should interview Peter. One of the true Nice Guys in the industry.
Bob Heil was the inventor of the Talk Box and passed away February 28th of this year. The Talk Box was made for Joe Walsh in 1973.
Frampton was a young rock prodigy destined to blow up to rock radio dominance in the Mid 70's
God bless you...with the sneeze 😊.......Frampton comes alive 🔥
😆 OMG! LOVED the sneeze! And enjoyed the Frampton. Always loved him and saw him Live in the era of this song.
That hairdo is The Frampton Fro. He was quite the trendsetter!
Bless you ….
While we're in the golden age of rock, let's get Elizabeth to do Humble Pie's I Don't Need No Doctor - and it HAS to be the live version with The Blackberries... The Midnight Special video originally filmed on November 30th, 1973. 1 incredible lead singer (Steve Marriot), 6 backup vocalists, dance moves, musical/vocal dynamics, a butterscotch leather suit, and, well, it pretty much defines the 70's music scene, at least for me. Even if we never get Elizabeth to do it, check it out for yourselves - it's just that awesome. It's so good that I was 8 when it came out, and my dad made sure I was awake to witness its complete aural glory on the original broadcast date!
Saw HP in September of '72, the tour after Pete left them, but Marriott was PHENOMENAL!!
"Midnight Special" was the highlight of my weekends as a kid. That an the original SNL cast...
It's a great performance!
I'll have to check that out, sounds like a great version!
I can't wait to see your new video Elizabeth 😊
Bless you, Elizabeth. There are many excellent reasons why the talk box never took off. This song is No.1 on the list.
He is an incredible musician and a wonderfully kind man! He gave me his guitar pick!!
I really enjoy your analysis of music, got me watching
My favorite Frampton song is Lines On My Face. I saw him a couple of years ago and he introduced it as his favorite song, too!
I really enjoy your videos. Your joy and enthusiasm, - your face which is so changing in expression, plus the way you enunciate when analysing the performance. I wonder, however, if many of the 60's, 70's or 80's singers were ever aware of the technical build of their voice ? In my mind, as an amateur singer and teen of the 70's, most of those girls and boys from the pop music world were creative, naturally gifted talents ?
I've been lucky enough to see Peter Frampton in concert a number of times when he was living in Cincinnati, Ohio. He enjoyed living in Cincinnati because he could move around the city without needing security. Because of his love for the city, he always made sure to play at least one concert per year at the Riverbend Music Center which is down on the Ohio river. He's a great performer.
Peter takes such joy in performing live.
You can't imagine how much enjoyable is the way you explain the video. It's so funny, amusing & interesting. Kudos!! 😂👍🏼
And it's different every time he plays using the talk box. This is nothing like the record for instance. Brilliant!!
This is going to be sooo great.
Thank you for mentioning the expansiveness of the affect of music on the brain, and for bringing up the subject of music therapy. The science of music is a fantastic area for learning.
Your enthusiasm is so infectious that it is hard to concentrate on Peters performance. Love watching this channel.
Frampton and Bowie went to the same school in Beckenham. Frampton’s Dad was Bowie’s art teacher.
Owen Frampton
Frampton Live...what an album.
My cousin had this album Framton comes Alive in 1975. I was a contant listener since.
The talk box is a fun effect to play with. It uses all the same parts as singing, just without the vocal chords. Mouth shape, tongue position, throat shape, it all changes the tonal quality of the sound being produced.
I've seen him twice in the past year and have tix for another show.He has problems walking , but he sounds amazing!! Vocally and his guitar playing really is on another level. Humble man, great Rick Beato interview a few years back. I just wanna have a beer with him! You so rock! Operatically!!
Just saw him a couple of months ago. His voice is still very strong! Great page!
Love Peter Frampton! Saw the FCA-35 Tour in Long Beach, CA. What a wonderful night it was, as Peter and the band played the whole FCA album, plus many other hits… I was so in love with his Les Paul Black Beauty Phoenix, I went and bought a signature guitar (#285)…
Other talk box classics: Joe Walsh, "Rocky Mountain Way" and Pink Floyd, "Keep Talking "
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@briankuczynski4375. Another talk box classic - “Hair Of The Dog” by Nazareth. And “Those Shoes” - The Eagles (and played live with twin talk box guitars from Joe Walsh and Steuart Smith). However, you have to be careful with the talk box device. I used to follow an Eagles tribute band here in the U.K. who included Joe Walsh’s “Rocky Mountain Way” in their live set. The guitarist using the talk box inadvertently had it set too loud/high. After a few gigs, he found that playing with the talk box had loosened some of his back teeth! So he parked the device and replaced it with a guitar effects pedal that near enough copied the talk box sound. Stay safe and well.
Such a good song and fascinating sound. I love the way you break things down and explain them!