Why would we need Ellen White’s writings if we have the Bible?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Why would we need Ellen White’s writings if we have the Bible?
The Bible is God’s love letter to humanity, but sometimes it can be hard to figure out how or where to start reading it. However, Ellen White’s writings, like a telescope, will provide us with a sharper glimpse of important Bible themes, particularly God’s love for mankind. Through these writings, we can clarify and elevate truth.
Using Ellen White’s writings as a prophetic microscope to discover and magnify the wonderful precious jewels of truth in the Bible will help us see the beautiful picture of our Savior in its fullness.
Watch the video as Chantal Klingbeil talks about Ellen White’s writings as the perfect telescope and microscope that lead us back to the Bible and help us discover even the smallest details of God’s Word.
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I have no problem with Ellen White's writings but I sometimes wonder if it is the lesser light why is it that most preachers and pastors can no longer stand and preach for 30 minutes without quoting Ellen White. Some quote Ellen White more than they quote the Bible. This in a way seems like Ellen White's writings have replaced the Bible.
Because this is a cult based on a false prophet....that's the sad truth.
When I joined the SDA church i was told to get rid of my Catholic Bible because of the apocryphal books.
But now I’m told to add Ellen White books to my Bible studies… 🤷🏽♂️
I’m not reading Ellen White. Don’t have time to waste. Sola scriptura for me 👍🏾
@@philippe9078 Amen. I left the church because too much of Ellen White and joined the Baptist church. Just Jesus, just scripture. There will always be weird hermaneutics/opinions about bible from humans in any church that is 'odd' or disagreeable but I don't have to hear about her anymore. She is just a regular person like everyone else, and not to be elevated. Other churches do this with Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph P Smith, Charles Taze Russell...
@@RedeemedSon144 it’s amazing how people feel so tempted to search for answers OUTSIDE of the precious word of God.
Amazing
Thank you so.much for the clear explainatons about the writings of Ellen White & the Bible.
You are welcome, Belen. May you be drawn closer unto His truths. God bless you!
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There are many nice writings of mankind, but ALL... including those of Ellen White &many others, pale in comparison to the Holy Bible/The, matchless, written Word of God. Matthew 24: 35.
The Holy Bible & the Holy Spirit are the only sources that a true, born again believer needs to gain eternal life. No one may ever neglect nor blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Luke 12 :10
Amen, God bless you sister.. Can't agree more. Ellen White's writings always direct us to Christ and I believe she was inspired by the same spirit as that of the original Bible writers.. Only one who has not read her books under the influence of the holy Spirit can disagree.
Prophecy is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that God bestows upon humanity, as explained in 1 Corinthians 12, 1 Corinthians 14, Ephesians 4, and Romans 12. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church. She also made clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Her role was to point people back to the Bible-never to replace it or supersede it.
Beautifully said!! What was explained in this video has been my experience with the writings of Ellen White. They've(the writings)so many times magnified the Bible and the stories therein! They have given me precious moments of understanding Christ's love for humanity, and for me, that I would have never grasped otherwise. And often times the writings have helped me understanding better the plan of redemption. And God's love. I thank God for the more clear and deeper glimpse into the Bible through SOP. Thank you for this video. It will be great to share with others!
A huge amen for that, Danielle. Truly, the message of the plan of redemption must be understood by all mankind; thus, with the light of the Bible as the greater light and the spirit of prophecy as the lesser light, this truth will reach out to many. May the Lord fulfill the desires of your heart.
I so appreciate the very positive approach to this subject. The more I read Ellen White's writings, the more I am convinced that she is inspired by God. She consistently points the reader back to the Word of God. She has helped me to understand so many things from the Bible and always provides a context of Supreme Love. Her writings also help me increase my vocabulary-particularly The Great Controversy. God always leaves us help to become closer in our walk with Christ.
Praise the Lord for your wonderful experience as you delve yourself into the reading of His Word [i.e., the Bible] and the Spirit of Prophecy. Our fervent prayer is that you will have a deeper understanding of His truths. May the Lord bless your walks with HIm, Valerie.
Frankly Since I want God to speak to me…I just READ HIS WORD. Not someone’s interpretation
Most of her 'inspirations' were plagiarized by Christian authors of the time.
@@ziberteck can U give me an example please
@@Yeshuaistheonlyway .
It's not her interpretation it's God speaking through her
Great loving kind words, thank you sister.
All glory to God, Robert!
This was needed 🙏🏽
Kindly create podcasts of such videos including Pr Ted Wilson's on the fundamental beliefs of the Church.
Abel, thank you for your suggestion. We'll keep you updated on this one.
The Word of God is enough for our Salvation. Ellen White herself mentioned this in one of her testimonies.
She says to always turn to The Word of God. Not her books. I fell in Love with Jesus, The Father, The Holy spirit all God. So much more reading the books I've read, Truth about Angels, Christ in The Sanctuary, Spirit of Prophecy,(•still reading) Early writing and Great controversy.
@@19818456 That is not true. I am an ex-atheist and I used to hate God and the Bible. I have doubtfully given God a chance in my life and haphazardly read the Bible and Ellen White's writings. What drew me to Ellen White's writings is her insistence on the authority of Scripture and her love for Christ.
The problem lies squarely with those who elevate her writings above the Bible so much to the extent that they never use the Bible.
*She wrote,* "There is nothing more calculated to energize the mind and strengthen the intellect than the study of the Word of God." CSA 69.2
*She further says,* "When a real love for the Bible is awakened, and the student begins to realize how vast is the field and how precious its treasure, he will desire to seize upon every opportunity for acquainting himself with God's word." [Ibid]
She says, *"The religion of the Bible is the only safeguard."* CG 480.3
@@19818456 I was just wondering if you could give me references where Mrs. White pushed her books as equally important to the Bible. I have not read all her books, but I have yet to read anything that suggested what you stated in your post. I believe that the Bible is sufficient enough for our salvation without Mrs. White's writing. However, I agreed with what this video presented. Mrs. White's writings were both a telescope and a microscope that helped me gained greater understanding of the Bible. May God continue to bless you in your journey as God's beloved child.
I find people will come up with, and say anything just not to believe TRUTH. People hate truth you know...UNFORTUNATELY! Ellen White was definitely a true prophetess.
We have the Holy Spirit to teach us all truth.
Greetings, I so much appreciate Ellen's writings because they help me to understand lots of scripture of Gods Holy word. I Thank God for Ellen White. AMEN?
All hail the power of Jesus' Name! Thank you so much for your desire to know more about His truths. Our fervent prayer is that you will grow in the knowledge of Christ through the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy.
Wonderful. Thank you
We give all the glory to God, Gerda!
I have been blessed by her writing too 🙏
We are so privileged to have God in our life. May we keep our eyes fixed on Him until He returns.
Amen my Sis 🙏 I love the way GOD used this group to help us understands why we need his inspired prophet today 🙏
Praise the LORD for your dedication to follow the LORD and His truths, T W. May the LORD bless you!
Wonderful
Amen, thank you Chantal, for presenting the writings of Ellen White in such a concise, yet beautiful way.
Blessed to be a member of Adventista del Septimo Dia... a remnant a church in the last day ....
Amen
Great uplifting video. I love her books.She brings me closer to Jesus.
Truly, the Lord uses a variety of methods to reach out to us, and we praise Him for using this platform to share His teachings with others. May the Lord bless you!
I fall so much in love with. "her" writings that my mother used to tell me above. I'm glad I am passing that stage but it takes time. It is a peculiar experience for a peculiar mission in my life.
Amen to this uplifting message. God bless us as we continue to uphold the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy books.
The bible is sufficient
Hello, Nick! Yes, the Bible is sufficient in fact, Ellen Gould White herself wrote, “I recommend to you, dear reader, the Word of God as the rule of your faith and practice. By that Word we are to be judged. God has, in that Word, promised to give visions in the ‘last days’; not for a new rule of faith, but for the comfort of His people, and to correct those who err from Bible truth. Thus God dealt with Peter when He was about to send him to preach to the Gentiles.”-Early Writings, 78. “When God’s Word is studied, comprehended, and obeyed, a bright light will be reflected to the world; new truths, received and acted upon, will bind us in strong bonds to Jesus. “The Bible, and the Bible alone, is to be our creed, the sole bond of union; all who bow to this Holy Word will be in harmony. “Our own views and ideas must not control our efforts. Man is fallible, but God’s Word in infallible. Instead of wrangling with one another, let men exalt the Lord. Let us meet all opposition as did our Master, saying, ‘It is written.’ Let us lift up the banner on which is inscribed, The Bible our rule of faith and discipline.” The Review and Herald, December 15, 1885 (Selected Messages 1:416.)
the Bible interprets itself. the Bible is all we need. if there is something you don't understand, ask GOD for wisdom!
I read Ellen White and she is inspired. She does not say to read her works over the bible. Her books have helped me understand the love of God and most importantly His deep personal love and sacrifice for me.
Prophecy is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that God bestows upon humanity, as explained in 1 Corinthians 12, 1 Corinthians 14, Ephesians 4, and Romans 12. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church. She also made clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Her role was to point people back to the Bible-never to replace it or supersede it.
@@AdventistOrgChurch So why cant we say the same about Luther,Tyndale,Spurgeon,etc?There are a lot of powerful writers out there,all of course with some grey areas like White,too.I think the organisation would do well to promote a variety of readings and an open way of studying.The results are amazing!
Amen!
The Bible is the only inerrant Word of God!
Well done -- her writings do indeed shed more light on the Bible and bring out so much. She wrings out every last drop of meaning from its pages. I still ardently read scripture every day,...but her writings augment that reading.
The two are pointed out in these words: “The Lord has sent His people much instruction, line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, and there a little. Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light. May this enlightenment helps readers understand its purposes.
@@AdventistOrgChurch That's one of my favorite statements of hers.
Blessings !
On Ellen G White writings I usually fail to put up words together as in to complement them, they always leave me in a peaceful wow wondering moody how gifted she was by God such that she can write such powerful Biblical commentary, all of them harmoniously comments on the plan of Redemption I dearly love the Inspired writings of Ellen G White for they make the Bible more interesting to me, I Thank Dear JESUS CHRIST for the gift of the SOP... Continue please to stand for them
Inspiring presentation. I have been richly blessed by her prophetic gift. God be praised
Amazing video! Thank you God, for the bountiful resources given us to understand the truth about You.
Glad you enjoyed it, Alin. May the Lord bless you and empower you through this presentation.
Amen,thank you so much
God bless
All glory to God, Bon!
7:50 "there is not a negative in that law"
H3808 לֹֽא "not/no" (which is negative)
I've used "ꔪ" to draw attention to all the instances of "לֹֽא " (a negative word) being used in the original Hebrew law that has no negatives.
ꔪלֹֽאꔪ יִהְיֶֽה־לְךָ אֱלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים עַל־פָּנָֽיַ׃
ꔪלֹֽאꔪ תַֽעֲשֶׂה־לְךָ פֶסֶל וְכָל־תְּמוּנָה אֲשֶׁר בַּשָּׁמַיִם מִמַּעַל וַאֲשֶׁר בָּאָרֶץ מִתָּחַת וַאֲשֶׁר בַּמַּיִם מִתַּחַת לָאָֽרֶץ׃
ꔪלֹֽאꔪ־תִשְׁתַּחֲוֶה לָהֶם וְꔪלֹאꔪ תָעָבְדֵם כִּי אָֽנֹכִי יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ אֵל קַנָּא פֹּקֵד עֲוֺן אָבֹת עַל־בָּנִים עַל־שִׁלֵּשִׁים וְעַל־רִבֵּעִים לְשֹׂנְאָֽי׃
ꔪלֹאꔪ תִשָּׂא אֶת־שֵֽׁם־יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ לַשָּׁוְא כִּי ꔪלֹאꔪ יְנַקֶּה יְהוָה אֵת אֲשֶׁר־יִשָּׂא אֶת־שְׁמוֹ לַשָּֽׁוְא׃ פוְיוֹם הַשְּׁבִיעִי שַׁבָּת לַיהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ ꔪלֹֽאꔪ־תַעֲשֶׂה כָל־מְלָאכָה אַתָּה וּבִנְךָֽ־וּבִתֶּךָ עַבְדְּךָ וַאֲמָֽתְךָ וּבְהֶמְתֶּךָ וְגֵרְךָ אֲשֶׁר בִּשְׁעָרֶֽיךָ׃
ꔪלֹאꔪ תִּרְצָֽח׃ ס
ꔪלֹאꔪ תִּנְאָֽף׃ ס
ꔪלֹאꔪ תִּגְנֹֽב׃ ס
ꔪלֹֽאꔪ־תַעֲנֶה בְרֵעֲךָ עֵד שָֽׁקֶר׃ ס
ꔪלֹאꔪ תַחְמֹד בֵּית רֵעֶךָ ꔪלֹֽאꔪ־תַחְמֹד אֵשֶׁת רֵעֶךָ וְעַבְדּוֹ וַאֲמָתוֹ וְשׁוֹרוֹ וַחֲמֹרוֹ וְכֹל אֲשֶׁר לְרֵעֶֽךָ׃ פ
לֹא>> תַחְמֹד בֵּית רֵעֶךָ לֹֽא>>־תַחְמֹד אֵשֶׁת רֵעֶךָ וְעַבְדּוֹ וַאֲמָתוֹ וְשׁוֹרוֹ וַחֲמֹרוֹ וְכֹל אֲשֶׁר לְרֵעֶֽךָ׃ פ
I'm no scholar, so maybe in scholarly language, "no" means 11 instances rather than no instances, but this claim seems intellectually invalid.
It may 'appear' as though this sentence has negatives in it, but there are NO negatives in this sentence at all with NO exceptions (NOT even one) unless the reader is NOT a scholar or does NOT understand the original language properly.
I once heard someone profess a lie at a camp meeting. He said there were 365 passages telling us to not be afraid. (there's only about half as many, but if someone gets me a list of the alleged 365 passages telling us to not be afraid, I'll pay $365 to your venmo or cash app. If someone can explain coherently how "no", "not" and "לֹֽא" are not negatives despite being defined as negatives, then you can help me become a Bible scholar like the speaker in this video.
Ellen White plagiarized. She told "white" lies. Yes, there are some serious issues with her writings.
Well said. I agree with your comments.
Thank you for a rest insightful talk. I read Those books with the Bible chapters and indeed I’ve known that they are enlightening; but using the telescope or microscope as an illustration is great, I am going to adopt that view when trying to encourage the use of her writings. Thank you again God Bless
You are welcome, Marrianne. We are glad to serve you today. Help us reach more people by sharing this beautiful presentation with others. God bless you!
I also love these illustrations they are really great
A big thanks
I was born and raised Adventist, and although her writings weren't a huge part in my upbringing, she was always in the background. Now that i'm older, i see now how much EGW writings are used today. Preachers and pastors always quote that she was "the lesser light" yet her writings take centre stage during sermons, or if theres a form of debate, a paragraph of hers would be brought before someone and it was to be taken as gospel. So i began to ask, "Why isnt the Bible enough?" and now, I only read the Bible and the Bible alone, and i'm so much happier for it. Dont make the same mistake many are making in trusting in her. There's alot more than meets the eye when it comes to Ellen White, and i urge everyone to look deeper and more closer into her writings and her life itself.
That's right. We *don't need* Ellen G White's writings since we have the Bible. *Sola Scriptura*
Wow glory to God almighty Amen
We praise the Lord, John!
I'm an avid reader of Ellen G. White's writings and the more I read it, the more convinced I am that her writings were inspired by God. In the Bible, God has always provided his church with a prophet to guide and lead; I sincerely believe that Sr. White, in her writings, was given to the remnant church to deepen our understanding of the scriptures and to lead us through these last days of time, particularly the health message will become more necessary with all the pestilences, which are coming and will continue to arise. We need to be careful not to undermine the Spirit of Prophecy. Sr. White said in SM Page 48 that Satan's last deception will be to make her writings as "none-effect".
Amen! I also. She was inspired by God.
Amen, I love all of her writings, and believe that she truly was a prophets for the Endtime.
Prophecy is one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit that God bestows upon humanity, as explained in 1 Corinthians 12, 1 Corinthians 14, Ephesians 4, and Romans 12. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church. She also made clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Her role was to point people back to the Bible-never to replace it or supersede it.
Bijbi
@@AdventistOrgChurch as Christ said he speaks the words of His Father. As the Holy Spirit speaks on behalf of Jesus. Ellen as a servant of God will follow suit. She will speak on behalf of who inspired her and the other 66 book writers of scripture; that is the Holy Spirit.
A challenge here. Ellen White never tested the spirit of her guiding angel as we are commanded to do. 1John 4:1 "My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the Spirit, but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere."
Question: Are you willing to Test your own prophet? If so check out the series "Test the Prophet" here on RUclips. And after all, if there is no fault to be found in her then this should be a welcome challenge. And if you are don't think you can handle it, please ask yourself why. Again, we are commanded to test all things.
Nice! Thank you.
You are welcome, Omnivore! Blessings to you and to your family.
Very well explained.
Hi, S Green. Thank you for taking the time to watch this video. We hope and pray that you will have a deeper understanding of His truths.
We are told if a teaching isn't in line with Bible teachings, we should follow the Bible first and foremost.
That's true, Paul. We are warned that if prophets "do not speak according to God's word, it is because there is no light in them (Isaiah 8:20, NKJV). Let the light of His truths shines in your life, Paul. Blessings!
AMEN, BLESSED SABBATH
I am grateful for Ellen G. White's writings. She expounded on many scriptural texts and we are greatly blessed for her work.
For those critiques, Why can't you follow your consciences. Why wasting you time attacking her writings?
Her work of writing has guided many souls to Christ and we are eagerly waiting for the Lord"s soon return
Agreed 💯. I wonder if the critics could read even one page along side the bible and remain a critic 🧐
Thank you for your dedication to following the Lord and His truths as revealed in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. Let us continue to pray that these seeds of truth will grow in people's hearts. God's blessings, Castan.
May God bless you saints and show you more that is to be done for heaven's Glort
May God's blessings be with you too today, Mecha!
Very well put.
May this Lord bless and fulfill the desires of your heart, Evelio.
@@AdventistOrgChurch amen
Amém. A lei e ao testemunho.
I like Ellen G White writtings, i once read it but i would like to pursure more into it.Holy Spirit i ask you to plonge me into the word of God..Amen.
May the Lord grant the desires of your heart as you seek the Lord and His truths, Nel. You are in our thoughts and prayers.
Jesus told His followers in
John.14:26, that the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send shall teach us all things and bring to remembrance every thing that he has thought , therefore the Holy Ghost alone is our only interpretor of God's word & no human can interpret better than Him.
Amen!
Many of the seventh day adventist commenting here and many more in the church did not ever read one book of E G white entirely. They say, we need the Bible only, but they did not even study the Bible at all. I believe that E G White was inspired by the Holy Spirit and the depth of the words she wrote under inspiration is just as the Bible. I can wonder many times of a statement that she wrote and be puzzeld by it only to find the answer the Bible many months later.
The problem with many seventh day adventists is that her inspired words struck some cherished idol in their lives and so they rather choose to discredit her than to renounce their idol.
Writings which she plagiarized from others, yet claiming that were from God?
So true, her writing point out what we are doing,some of us don't even want to read the Bible much less her writing. God will never force anyone of us to read her writing, God knows who are reading her books. Praise God
Hello, friends! Please allow us to share what Ellen Gould White herself wrote, “I recommend to you, dear reader, the Word of God as the rule of your faith and practice. By that Word we are to be judged. God has, in that Word, promised to give visions in the ‘last days’; not for a new rule of faith, but for the comfort of His people, and to correct those who err from Bible truth. Thus God dealt with Peter when He was about to send him to preach to the Gentiles.”-Early Writings, 78. “When God’s Word is studied, comprehended, and obeyed, a bright light will be reflected to the world; new truths, received and acted upon, will bind us in strong bonds to Jesus. “The Bible, and the Bible alone, is to be our creed, the sole bond of union; all who bow to this Holy Word will be in harmony. “Our own views and ideas must not control our efforts. Man is fallible, but God’s Word in infallible. Instead of wrangling with one another, let men exalt the Lord. Let us meet all opposition as did our Master, saying, ‘It is written.’ Let us lift up the banner on which is inscribed, The Bible our rule of faith and discipline.” The Review and Herald, December 15, 1885 (Selected Messages 1:416.)
That is very true.
@@19818456 At least, more than you! Its about the amount someone read or is about assimilating and sharing with others, and not the least, learning about our Lord.
I was listen to a preach from David Clayton and he said the same thing. 10 promises:
"You will not kill!
You will not commit adultery!
You will not steal!
You will not lie!
You will not covet!"
It pleased me.
Amen! God be praised for His faithfulness and goodness to His people.
@@AdventistOrgChurch Ya, Amen! He is very good! Hail to the lamb! Sing the song of Moses!
A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country, and in his own house. Matthew 13:57 KJV
Can you give some relevant material because through out the video you were praising Ellen White
We are here to help you understand His truths but can you clarify your question, Anurag? Thank you so much!
My question is that,'can you please elaborate the references and examples that you used in the video because you shifted the content so frequently that none of the example or reference was explained in context.
I am a baptist, but I believe we are supposed to observe the Sabbath, and I have been doing so, with a SD online church. But I have questions.Why is the SDA tything to the RCC? Iam NOT a troll, I seriously just want to find truth.
So Dirk Anderson is a Seventh-day Sabbatarian, but he has serious issues with this false Sunday law notion that Adventists push to vigorously. His book *National Sunday Law: Fact or Fiction?* is available for free online. Here is a quote from it:
"Teachings such as the National Sunday Law are deceptive. They take the focus off of the real issues of Christianity, and the real persecutions that are taking place around the world. Instead, they focus the attention upon future events that are unlikely to ever take place. While other Christians are following Christ's command to take the gospel into all the world, a number of Seventh-day Adventists spend their time and effort trying to convince other Christians that a Sunday law is going to be passed and they need to start keeping the Sabbath in order to be one of the remnant that is saved when Christ returns. One SDA pastor spends his time traveling around the world, visiting SDA churches in order to share with people the "bad news" about coming Sunday laws. This type of activity is not only a complete waste of time and effort, but it is also a direct disobedience of Christ's command for Christians to take the "good news" of salvation-not the "bad news" of fear-into all the world (Mark 16:15)."
@@NoSundayLawComing ty for your response , and I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you... but did you see the popes " new 10 commandments" for cop27... the 4th in particular... it would seem that he is about to do just that... I don't know if it's the mark or not .... but you have to admit it is a coincidence ...at best
@@322doug So SDAs do this with every world crisis. Again, Dirk Anderson points out in his *National Sunday Law: Fact or Fiction?* :
"Since the late 1800s, Seventh-day Adventists have seen the arrival of this universal Sunday law in every crisis. Each time, they suppose that this "crisis" will be the one that finally brings in Sunday legislation. For well over a century, any world crisis-whether it be the COVID pandemic, or climate change, or the world trade center bombing-is seen as the trigger mechanism that convinces lawmakers to abandon all reason and bow down to the papacy and institute a National Sunday Law. However, each time, the crisis fades and the National Sunday Law conspiracy never materializes. Then, they start looking for the next crisis. I have personally witnessed this pattern for decades. These people live in a constant state of paranoia."
COP27 ends tomorrow. There will be no Sunday law mandate.
@@NoSundayLawComing You maybe right, i dont disagree ,,, but the difference is now most, many many religious orgs are saying the same thing.... only the ones under the RCC are quiet. Sunday law , i always thought was crazy talk... but look at what trump signed into law, for SUNDAY LAW! blerw me away... thasts why i started asking questions.... i used to argue ... debate SDAs on here day and night... but now, not by their sdayings but by the actual world events.
@@322doug Most Adventists seem to miss the point that their Sunday law doctrine is very damaging to the unity of the body of Christ.
Rather than promote love and understanding between those of different faiths, these teachings create fear and suspicion. How can a Seventh-day Adventist have fellowship with a Sunday-keeper whom they suspect is secretly planning to pass laws to torture and kill them? This false doctrine divides by creating an artificial adversarial relationship between Sabbath-keepers and Sunday-keepers. The SDA "enemy" is not the world; rather, it is the non-SDA denominations. Sadly, the SDA sect has made out all Sunday-keeping churches to be the enemy. This promotes hatred and suspicion amongst believers, not love and peace. The National Sunday Law serves only one purpose. It generates fear.
Most Sunday-keeping Christians would probably be shocked and outraged if they were told that Seventh-day Adventists teach that Sunday-keepers are going to be involved in persecuting Sabbath-keepers and restricting their freedom of religion. Most Sunday-keeping Christians would be appalled at any such action. They would most certainly fight against any legislation that would infringe upon the religious freedoms of other Christians.
Also It is economically impossible in this country, not to mention the rest of the world.
Imagine the chaos that would result from such a law. Businesses and factories would have to be shut down on Sunday. The United States would suffer irreparable economic harm. The reduction in work hours would probably drive many businesses to move overseas. Imagine a U.S. police force that can barely keep up with chasing real criminals, trying to cope with forcing the 150 million people who do not worship on Sunday to start worshipping on Sunday! (this would include all other non-Christians and atheists). Imagine a U.S. prison system, that is already filled to the brim, trying to handle millions upon millions of new prisoners. Imagine the terrible economic impact of taking millions of hard-working individuals out of the work-force, putting them in prison, where they must be clothed and fed by tax-payers. The economic and social impact of this scenario would bankrupt the United States, both financially and morally.
The Sunday law is supposedly going to start nationally in the United States and be enforced on the other nations eventually.
What about the rest of the world? Christians account for less than one third of the global population. Who is going to enforce Sunday worship on the two billion Friday-worshipping Moslems? What about the three billion Hindus, Buddhists, and other eastern religions? Who is going to make them start observing Sunday? What about the billion secularists, agnostics, and atheists? Who is going to make them worship anything at all? Is one to believe that the United States is strong enough to not only force its own people to worship on Sunday, but also force the entire world to do likewise? The entire world witnessed the great difficulty the United States had in trying to control the tiny nation of Afghanistan from 2001 to 2021. After futilely attempting to maintain control over that nation, the United States left in defeat. If the United States cannot even maintain order in this one small nation, then how is it going to control the entire world?
(Most comments above are from Dirk Anderson's *National Sunday Law: Fact or Fiction?* available for free online)
It is true some of us sound like we are converted to EGW and not JesusChrist and the Bible.
I agree she was a prolific writer, (and became very wealthy in the process) but my question is this....Isn't there a passage in the Bible where Jesus clearly states that no one is to add or take away from what is written in the Bible? By "adding" her self-proclaimed prophecies isn't she going directly against what JESUS says in the Bible. By creating teachings that are outside of the Bible, then it's not OF the Bible. If we read and really study the Bible, where is the need for outside sources? (example: The Book of Mormon)
Hello, Kate! We really appreciate you for engaging with us, especially on these posts. We would like to share with you how Ellen White places herself and her writings above the Bible. She say's, "I recommend to you, dear reader, the Word of God as the rule of your faith and practice. By that Word we are to be judged. God has, in that Word, promised to give visions in the “last days”; not for a new rule of faith, but for the comfort of His people, and to correct those who err from Bible truth (Ellen White, Early Writings (Washington, D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association, 1882), 78)."
From what I read in EGW 's original books, she referred to the Bible as a direct link to God, and that her writings should only be used as a means to encourage and motivate people to pick their Bibles more often. She did not want her books to be used as doctrinal reference material nor to be quoted in public.
Evidence has been shown, the hierarchy of the SDA General Conference did not like her original books and re-edited what she wrote to achieve a different outcome.
This is an brief excellent summation why we need the writings of Ellen White.
We appreciate your presence here, Vivian. May you be empowered as you delve into God's truth through the writings of Ellen White and the Bible.
What about all her false prophecies? What about how she claimed she had a vision and talked to Enoch? How about the photos of her holding a bible and shaking ang so called prophecying at the same time> I am not trying to argue , i am here on a SDA channel , trying to learn truth.
Yeah, that's right. Why mix false prophecies into one's theology. SDAs should stick with *Sola Scriptura*
Although Ellen G. White may love the Lord, she is NOT a prophet NOR are her writings a substitute for actual scripture. 2 Tim. 3 : 16-17. The Word of God, alone, will NEVER pass away AND is the inspirational guide to eternal salvation for all truly 'BORN AGAIN' BELIEVERS... who are filled with the Holy Spirit.
The Bible tells us to be ye NOT deceived. Much love. God bless you.
We appreciate your time with us on our posts, Marvin! We would like to share with you Ellen White's statement on the Word of God. She said, "Christ's words are the bread of life. As the disciples ate the words of Christ, their understanding was quickened. They understood better the value of the Saviour's teachings. In their comprehension of these teachings, they stepped from the obscurity of dawn to the radiance of noonday. So will it be with us as we study God's Word (The Signs of the Times, April 4, 1906)."
As the diciples' awareness was enhanced through the teachings of Christ. If we partake in the writings of mankind, as enriching as they can be, they will still pale in comparison to the TRUE Word of God. Agreed?
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Do you understand the three ANGELS MESSAGE 🌹🙏
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One cannot go wrong with the KJV alone, but it does take time to search it out. According to linguistic experts the KJV is at about a grade 5-6 reading level. Do we need other books? EGW considered herself a lesser light, who wanted to motivate individuals to read the greater light, the KJV, for themselves.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Terry. We truly appreciate your insights. Yes, In Ellen G. White’s own view, her writings, when compared with Scripture, were a “lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light”, the Bible (Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, January 20, 1903). Her writings are never a shortcut to or replacement for any serious Bible study. In fact, she comments: “You are not familiar with the Scriptures. If you had made God’s word your study, with a desire to reach the Bible standard and attain to Christian perfection, you would not have needed the Testimonies. It is because you have neglected to acquaint yourself with God’s inspired Book that He has sought to reach you by simple, direct testimonies”. - Ellen G. White, Testimonies for the Church, vol. 2, p. 605.
What draws me to Ellen White's writings is her insistence on the authority of Scripture and her love for Christ.
Ellen White wrote, "There is nothing more calculated to energize the mind and strengthen the intellect than the study of the Word of God." CSA 69.2
She further says, "When a real love for the Bible is awakened, and the student begins to realize how vast is the field and how precious its treasure, he will desire to seize upon every opportunity for acquainting himself with God's word." [Ibid]
She says, "The religion of the Bible is the *ONLY* safeguard." CG 480.3 [Emphesis mine]
*"The Word of God is the great detector of error;* to it we believe everything must be brought. *The Bible must be our standard for every doctrine.* We must study it reverentially. *We are to receive no one's opinion without comparing it with the Scriptures. Here is divine authority, which is supreme in matters of faith.* Christ Triumphant 331.3
"The Bible was not written for the scholar alone; on the contrary, *it was designed for the common people. The great truths necessary for salvation are made as clear as noonday; and none will mistake and lose their way except those who follow their own judgment instead of the plainly revealed will of God."* SC 89.2
Amen! Thank you so much for taking the time to share these truths with us.
I was spiritually so blind and I wanted someone who doesn't play games with me. Thanks God for Ellen White!
@@RickDistance, All things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose.
I am aware of quite a number of Charismatic pastors who read her books and even quote her, but they are afraid to reveal the source of education to their flock.
@@seekertruth3577 For example? Could you mention 5 🖐 names?
@@RickDistance, To keep their integrity intact it's best not to reveal names. I can say that it is not any of the Televangelists.
The telescope is the Holy Spirit. Not Ellen White . See 1 John 2:27
We thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Joseann. Yes, there's nothing to argue about the divine workings of the Holy Spirit in our lives (John 2:27). However, the purpose of this presentation is to show us that the writing of Ellen White will always be in harmony with the Bible as the One who inspired it is the Holy Spirit Himself. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested.
I have recently started noticing that the people who are against Mrs. White's writings are those who have decided to pull away from Seventh-day Adventist. By God's Amazing Grace we are blessed with this woman of faith, her writings inspired by God. The Great Controversy is one of them. I encourage anyone to get a hold of this book and start reading. May the Almighty God of Jeremiah 33:3 bless you as you read. Don't forget, it does not replace the authority of the Precious Holy Bible.
Over 20% of the great controversy was plagiarized in the parts that were original to Ellen White tell about a Jesus, who is not equal with God she completely denies the Trinity and she denies the deity of Jesus Christ claiming he was a created being who God promoted to equality with himself, but was created as an archangel on equal footing with Lucifer This is nowhere found in Scripture. It is satanic.
You don't need Ellen White. The bible is sufficient enough and nobody from any denomination should be allowed to contradict that point.
The Holy Spirit will teach you. Amen.
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." - Galatians 1:8
E. White teaches a different gospel that contradicts God's Scriptures. Please do your research, White was involved in Freemasonry and the occult, just pray to God to give you the strength to accept His truth and His Word above ALL ELSE.
Pretty slick how you misrepresented Paul's advice to Timothy. I encourage people to ACTUALLY read the HOLY BIBLE for themselves to see that Paul advises NOT
To quarrel over the points of LAW. We are saved by GRACE, not LAW.
Brothers and sisters don't forget that Satan doesn't attack those in darkness,
God's Holy Word is more than enough. Holy inspired men, moved by the Holy Spirit to write the Scriptures. God's Holy Word, does not need Ellen White help.
Oretta, hello! As you read Jesus' Word, may you develop a strong spiritual bond with Him.
@@AdventistOrgChurch I'm a bornagain believer in my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Jesus is my Great High Preist at my Heavenly Father's right hand, interceding for me. I love Jesus, and thank him for shedding his precious innocent blood for my sins. I'm looking for his return, weather through the rapture of his church, or when he calls me home to be with him in heaven.
@@19818456 God chose men full of the Holy Spirit to write the Holy Scriptures. Jesus chose 12 men for his disciples, to teach and to preach his word. Read Revelation, 21, verse 14, the wall of the city had 12 foundations, the names of the 12 apostle of Jesus, The Lamb.
@@19818456 As a believer in Jesus Christ, I have to believe in what scripture teaches, not the Adventist doctrin. God's Word never changes. I am living by God's Great Grace, through faith in Jesus Christ, in his precious blood shed for me at calvary. That's my glorious hope. Have a bless day in Jesus.
She said if we studied our Bibles we wouldn't need her writings. But---if I accept her writings as I read through her writings, I see things that you could maybe draw the lines yourself as you study,
like that Cain brought the wrong offering. They knew back then. Jesus(God) (God's mouthpiece "in the beginning was the Word")...let there be light...spoken by the Angel (Messenger) of the LORD, who sacrificed an animal to clothe Adam and Eve when they fell, and that sacrifice was always a Lamb. But Cain was stiff-necked and unGodly. Things like that.
Much is known about E.G. White's writings now. She copied many other people's work without giving them credit
many SDA members don't even know that
I love Ellen White's writings. Her writings point to Jesus and His glory for us to honour. Whereas those who criticise her writings represent their master, Satan. Perhaps it's unknown to them that they are defending the enemy of God's immortal Word. Thank you Seventh day Adventist Church for your teachings that are biblically based.
Millions and millions have died without ever hearing about EGW. Will they be lost ?
Hello, Iyanola. Thank you for watching this video and sharing your thoughts with us. Regarding your question, we must recognize that salvation comes only through Jesus Christ and not from anybody else John 14:6. Hence, we believe that those who have died in their faith in Jesus will receive His promise in His soon return.
May you remain faithful unto Him until the end, Iyanola.
I found that Ellen's ✍ writings line up with the Bible truth. Thank God for her writings. And I believe she was a true prophetess.
We give all the credit to God for her writings, Love! May you continue to share the love of Jesus to all people.
God bless!
She talks about other planets with people that didn’t fall for the temptation and lies of Satan and didn’t eat of the fruits of the tree of Good and Evil.
How does that line up with the Bible? Bible says: no one is just but she just says the exact opposite.
2 chronicles 20:20 KJV Bible
Thank you for sharing this Bible verse, Marlene!
We need them because they are good gifts, and scripture teaches in
James 1:17 that: Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom there variableness, neither shadow of turning.
We need them because God who promise to supply all our needs will keep His promise.
Philippians 4:29
But my zGod shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
Thank you for that wonderful comment from our video, Alfred! May the blessings of the Lord be with you today.
This is not talking about any type of gift that could take someones eyes off of God's Biblical Word or especially go against it. Many of E.G.W. teachings go AGAINST in CONTRADICTION to the Bible. Pray and ask God to reveal the truth to you and I assure you He will NEVER ask you to look for His truth anywhere other than His own Holy Scriptures.
Ellen white writings is to make bible easy to understand so
Indeed! The Spirit of Prophecy will continue to exalt the Bible as God's Word and lead people to a deeper understanding of His truths.
Agree!
And yet our leaders demote her writing in 2015 , so how could we allow that to happen right in front of our eyes and no one speaks about it we need to wake up
1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; 3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. (2 Peter 2:1-3, NASB)
Who is this nice lady doing the video?
Thank you for taking the time to watch this video, Janet. The one speaking is Chantal Klingbeil, she is the Associate Director of White Estate. God bless you!
Thank you for your ministry.
The other book Steps to Christ the peace
*WEII SAID*
Amen! We hope you will share this God's revelation with others for a dose of inspiration and an increase in faith. God bless you, Mc Bedeau.
@@AdventistOrgChurch l always share the Bible with someone. I Love The BIBLE. I believe and known it is GOD'S Word. I feel empty with out it.
I thank God for loving humans so much and l read E.G. White writings it is a great help to me. Thank You.
Amen! Thank you for your dedication and commitment to follow Christ and share His truths, Mc Bedeau.
You see that God has connected the testimonies with the work from its very rise. Tear them from the work and you tear the faith of God’s people to pieces. {Lt3-1883}
I respect the free expression of religion, but Ellen White and the SDA religion as a whole contradicts the Bible in so many ways.
“I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:6-9
Edit: I’m happy that you have something to believe in. I just don’t agree that you are Christians.
Ellen White copied most of her writings from other writers mainly from Anglicans. Some of Ellen Whites theology is not Biblical such as the Investigative Judgement doctrine.
Ellen White should should be used with the same scepticism as any other Christian writer
The real question is why would God give the church the spirit of prophecy if it wasn't needed? Like it or not, sister white was given great insight to help the church prepare for translation.
I honestly think prophecy is preaching/declaring the word of God so limiting that to E G White means those who preach every sabbath have to read her books to the church,we dont have to pray for the preacher,etc.God still speaks thru various people today,without giving anyone a special tag
The spiritual gift of prophecy is an important way to be used by God. 1 Corinthians 14:1-5 describes it as a gift with particular usefulness and honor, saying “the person who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouragement, and consolation” and “builds up the church” (CSB).
To learn more about this topic, go to www.adventist.org/gift-of-prophecy/
@@AdventistOrgChurch Isn't this what every preacher who comes up the pulpit every sabbath does?
According to Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 states that "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.".
There is no need for Ellen White to shine a light on the Scriptures. I highly recommend that everyone stick with the Bible and the Bible alone.
God Bless.
Thanks m m
Why would you put your faith biblical interpretation in a woman from the 1800’s, when we have 2,000 years of incredible church fathers and leaders to rely upon? If you believe the table of contents of the New Testament is accurate, then the church who assembled the Bible must be inspired by the Holy Spirit. In this same time frame (and earlier) we have Apostolic Succession, liturgical worship, real presence in the Eucharist, defining of original sin, sacraments, etc.
sola scriptura
I don't need egw i only need God's word
Yes we need Ellen White writings it is the Bible they both connect together u can't have one without the other .
May the Lord bless you and the desire of your heart, Elisa. We are praying for you as you study more of God's truth.
God give her the vision not man. Praise God for the Bible and Spirit of Prophecy, the Bible is the brighter light and her writing is the lesser light.
We praise the Lord for your comment, Marlene! Let us share with you the things that Ellen Gould White herself wrote, “I recommend to you, dear reader, the Word of God as the rule of your faith and practice. By that Word we are to be judged. God has, in that Word, promised to give visions in the ‘last days’; not for a new rule of faith, but for the comfort of His people, and to correct those who err from Bible truth. Thus God dealt with Peter when He was about to send him to preach to the Gentiles.”-Early Writings, 78. “When God’s Word is studied, comprehended, and obeyed, a bright light will be reflected to the world; new truths, received and acted upon, will bind us in strong bonds to Jesus. “The Bible, and the Bible alone, is to be our creed, the sole bond of union; all who bow to this Holy Word will be in harmony. “Our own views and ideas must not control our efforts. Man is fallible, but God’s Word in infallible. Instead of wrangling with one another, let men exalt the Lord. Let us meet all opposition as did our Master, saying, ‘It is written.’ Let us lift up the banner on which is inscribed, The Bible our rule of faith and discipline.” The Review and Herald, December 15, 1885 (Selected Messages 1:416.)
@@AdventistOrgChurch Yes
@Anders Johansson please read Revelation 19:10 KJV Bible
@Anders Johansson God is God by Himself, He will not force anyone to read her writing, He gave her the vision, no one can take it from God.
@Anders Johansson read Joel 2:28-29
If it’s not biblical, it’s not from God.
I’m sorry but Ellen White talks about things that were not revealed by God.
It’s a no-go for me
We don't.
You need her writing because your whole doctrine is based off of her approval of it it’s not in the Bible the great controversy not the investigation judgement. If you didn’t have her writings you’d have to channge a whole lot of your pillars of faith.
If she was a prophet,she sure didn't get led to change THE BIBLE.Not the one canonized.
The Bible is enough
What is enough?
@@RickDistance The Bible
@@jamesmmusic5806 I thought you meant reading Ellen White.
@@RickDistance sorry for not being clear. I think it in my head and write what I'm thinking but it doesn't mean anyone else will understand me lol
@@jamesmmusic5806 And we can ask. Also a concept for communication!
What a blessing her writings are to those who read them. I’ve found them to be a source of comfort and help during the time of need. As 1 Thessalonians 5:20 tells us not to despise prophesying, because as Amos 3:7 says that the Lord will do nothing, but he reveals his secrets to the prophets who in turn makes them known to His glorious church. This is what Sister White has done. By no means did she ever suggest that her writings take the place of the living Word of God. Furthermore, who are we to determine or suggest how and where the Lord led her to gather those things made known to her for His people. I am so thankful to Him for having led me to her writings and the SDA church. I give Him all the glory and praise!
The Holy Bible is enough......
Why is her writing not completely in line with the Bible. There is so many differences to Jesus's testimony the Bible. (1) 1 kings 6:31 doors are for entering the Most Holy place in the temple not a vail as she says. This is just the start of her errors to the Bible. From creation to Revaluation she has changed. An no one will even look to the Bible as truth but use her writing as the truth
Hi, Glenn. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. The writings of Ellen White will always be in harmony with the Bible. We are warned that if prophets “do not speak according to God’s word, it is because there is no light in them (Isaiah 8:20, NKJV).
Let us know if you have concerns or questions about this topic, and we will provide answers in the light of His truths.
Hi the first one to respond to me on this. An elder told me it was ok that the church teaches errors as long as it was not unto salvation. Because he couldn't justify errors being said in Sabbath school a church when I gave him biblical verses to the errors. My brother admitted that the Bible states doors an a vail is to enter the Most Holy place 1 kings 6:31 . So no vail ripped in side at Jesus's death . 1 kings 6 : 17, 33 tells us that Temple meaning is the Holy place
1 Chron 3 : 17 is a 2nd witness to the Temple meaning is the Holy place. Which means the vail is before the Holy place. All the accounts of the Temple in the Bible kings, Chronicles, Ezekiel 41:1-4 not one says that there is a vail to enter the Most Holy place they all say doors. What happened to Uzziah when entering the Temple to burn incense. In the new testament John 2:14-16 ,Luke 19:45,Mk 11:15 would these in the Holy place
John 10:23 (and Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch)
Sister White's writing is where the church says the blood of the daily sin offering is taken in side the temple an sprinkled before the Most Holy place . The Bible proves that wrong in Leviticus 4:22-35. My brother was wondering if in the new printing of her books thy changed it . She states that the bodies were thrown out of the graves when Jesus died then the next chapter she quotes the Bible. This is only a few. The church seems to try justify her writing then to take the Bible first. I would like to hear back on the verses. I was hoping my brother would look into it more and talk to his brother in-law Mark Finley but he just admitted that it wasn't in line with the Bible an not wanting to look into any more errors she has
Translation, she acts as the holy spirit for sdas, I'll pass.