@lexlee Doherty I heard 50+ vehicles are being added. Mike Force is still in beta too, I’m sure they’ll keep adding content until it’s a complete vietnam experience. I’m really looking forward to the M113
I've seen some people complain about SOGPF, specifically that Unsung dwarfs the DLC in terms of content - but I agree with what you said. The quality is superb and has a level of polish that the mod doesn't come close to. Great video as always dude
The DLC is great but Arma III could really use some light attack and transport aircraft, like A-37 and PC-6 or the Buffalo. Big and fast fighters are quite complex to use depending on the map. Cheers
Really glad to support this channel. Great content as always, I hope to get Prairie Fire next time it goes on sale, didn't have the money when it released :P
2:12 the F-4B and F-4C are pretty much the same plane, but the F-4C has some differences. The biggest structural difference was a bulge in the wing to accommodate the wider but smaller in diameter tires that it had. Other changes it had were the carrier launch bridle hooks were removed and their recesses covered, flight controls for the WSO (the USAF term for RIO), a shorter instrument panel for the WSO so they could see more effectively if they needed to use the rear seats flight controls, updated avionics, and updated radar, provisions for the Bullpup missile, switching to a boom and receptacle style in flight refueling system instead of the probe and drogue style, an uprated version of the J-79 engine that used a pyrotechnic starter, and provisions for the Falcon missile.
I actually sent screenshots to a friend the day this DLC came out because of the high quality of the vehicle interiors like the F4. The PT boat is great fun, I like how it moves the accelerator handle up and down as you use the controller. The SA-2 mobile radar unit has a full interior and I synced it up to an SA-2 launcher which blew away an F-4 that got too close (in testing). This DLC is certainly top tier quality.
I never played arma 3 but i saw the trailer and footage for this dlc and bought it. Ive only played one of the single player scenarios where i go out with a squad and eliminate mortar groups but man it's like living history. It's not some linear call of duty, it's like if someone made a experience for people that were interested in reenactment and history buffs. I wish had gotten into it earlier. The only thing that could make this perfect is if they added a vr mode, i cant imagine how nervous id be hiding in the jungle at night. The sound production of the forest is the best I've ever experienced.
Only complaint I have with the Prairie Fire UH-1's. They sound awful while flying first person. You don't get to hear that satisficing thump the Huey is known for. Hopefully that gets fixed or modded in soon!
Damn that really sucks about the afterburner I know fire will does some awesome looking afterburner for his aircraft, hoping for some war thunder f4c afterburners!!
Loving the DLC !! Hope they add the M113, TOW for Cobras, Shilka and A-6 for kill those SA-2 (amazing the system is simulated and you can enter it) like in Flight of the Intruder :)
this vid was really well done, will there be a ground vehicle comparison at some point? ive noticed the bulldog tank is incredibly inaccurate to real life, and it might be that way for some of the other ground vehicles too.
One issue I do have with the Praire Fire F-4 is that the AIM-9Es are way too good. You can lock onto someone and if they fly behind you, you can just fire a missile and it will pull a 180 degree turn off the rails and track perfectly.
I hope I don't carry the wish for >12km visibility to my grave without being granted! I really wanna fly my Phantom in a legit environment for air strike. Its bombing computer is AWESOME!
I have been blown away by the cockpit detail of the helicopters ( that's what I prefer over fixed wing - sorry). :-) They rival the DCS Huey in functionality and detail. And the sounds are AWESOME! There is a difference from the Model B, C, P, and D model Hueys, though. The D Model has a longer cargo compartment and resembles the H Model that most people probably are familiar with. The H model has more HP, which was particularly important in Vietnam due to hot, low density air. Hopefully they will add that to future updates. You think the H-34 is ugly? I guess you've never seen the H-21 "Flying Banana" then? LOL
Hi Viper, would it be possible to run through the weapon systems onboard the Phantom? Been trying to get the AIM 7 and AIM 9 working and can't figure it for the life of me, which is weird cause the AIMs on a F-181 work normally. Also, with the large selection of bombs.
@@SavageGameDesign Yes, I figured that be the case, but so far the way I found to fire the weapons is to simply dumb fire them off the rails. For the AIM 7, I just line the enemy up with the little radar under the HUD, fire and dive away, which didn't seem correct to me since AFAIK the AIM 7 is Semi-Active and thus you should have to stay your course or deviate a little, but the 7 seems to act like it has its own seeker warhead? For the AIM9, I expected a sort of growling to indicate lock or the Bohemia diamond, but it also ended up to be using the HUD to fire it sort of like a rocket at the rear of most targets. I'm unfamiliar with earlier versions of the 7s and 9s and was wondering if what I did was correct or if I should be expecting a diamond at all, so I thought of asking?
Yeah the "Brick" is what grabbed my attention first, I mean that cockpit was almost Combat Flight Sim levels of detail, not just the Textures but all the gauges and Displays. The Unsung Mod was good, but it was getting a bit long in the tooth, as far as aircraft go, the texturing almost reminds me of the Vietnam The Experience mod, back when Unsung itself came out. Hmm now all we need is some additional navy stuff, like you know, the Crusader.... ;) Guess the Air Force was really happy that the Navy had developed a decent Fleet Air Defense Fighter, although they did not use them that well....although the Navy should've taken the hint and included the gun.
@@SavageGameDesign ah i see, firewills mods do have pretty good looking afterburner but not sure how he has it moddled but hey I can’t complain I’ve been waiting so long for a high fidelity F4 phantom
Prairie fire has amazing detail and is a great DLC for arma by far. But I personally find unsung a better recreation of the Vietnam war, for example it had the A-4 Skyhawks which was used as the air to ground attack aircraft during the war. I find unsung has more weapons and vehicles that can be seen in documentary’s of the war.
Are there any vietnam gamemode servers where you can fly those badass choppers? I'm tired of war thunder sim mode, and this one looks amazing, moreover if you can actually give cas or evac to ground infantry
Thank you for the video. But I really don't care about planes and choppers as for that aspect I only play DCS (top of realism, better graphics, better maps, real avionics, etc) , because arma 3 is way to simplistic and unrealistic in that regard. It is just pure arcade. So I only use arma for infantery. Infantery wise how does unsung compare to SOG? Guns models, reload animations, sounds, etc?
One thing I really hate about unsung is the chatter for all BLUFOR and OPFOR being in English and vietnamese respectively, no option to do a scenario as US troops in 1960s takistan or something because the obviously middle eastern takistanis start screaming in Vietnamese and kill all immersion. Furthermore, the unsung team's obsession with every pilot wearing a confederate flag helmet was.... disturbing.
Unsung has many different flight helmets. You can turn off the ambient voices by placing a module for it. You can ask about any of this at the unsung discord, linked from Unsung steam page.
@@SavageGameDesign We stopped using the mod the moment the confederate chopper pilot helmet appeared, as it was decided the mod was not appropriate for our ops, but it's good to know you can turn off the ambient voices, which is is something our maker should have known about. I was pretty upset they wanted to stop using it entirely, because the unsung aircraft, my favorite is the A-3 Skywarrior are really nice to have on hand. maybe I'll suggest looking into it again.
@@jcdenton6074 There are about 20 flight helmets to choose from all based on real ones from Nam. If you don't like one helmet, you can swap it out easily.
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Thanks Viper! awesome comparison. You can see why we opted to create a professional product to replace our outdated content in Unsung mod.
@lexlee Doherty I heard 50+ vehicles are being added. Mike Force is still in beta too, I’m sure they’ll keep adding content until it’s a complete vietnam experience. I’m really looking forward to the M113
Can’t wait to see what the future holds. It was a no questions asked day one purchase for me!
We absolutely appreciate and love you, sir!
@@spicey4522 that number was a false assumption
@@b-52eggbeast88 that’s just what I’ve heard from friends who play arma more than me, I don’t have a linkable source or anything
This DLC costs 20euros and it feels like a whole game that you're getting. It's awesome
It's great, while buggy, it's great, and here's hoping it'll get even better.
@@AShyBiBlob not yet encountered any bug, but at the same time I'm only sitting in a Huey in mikeforce.
@@7ADR I've encountered a dozen, plus the Bohemia feedback doesn't lie.
@@7ADR some noobs call minor arma features bugs, disregard. Arma has no bugs, just realism.
@@BlastinRope wait so in IRL it’s a normal thing to get stuck in a concrete floor while trying to vault into a floating bunker?
I've seen some people complain about SOGPF, specifically that Unsung dwarfs the DLC in terms of content - but I agree with what you said. The quality is superb and has a level of polish that the mod doesn't come close to.
Great video as always dude
Thanks my man! Much appreciate seeing your comments here!
"It just looks like...a damn cow." That's fucking amazing viper. Keep doing what you do bro.
When he said that he finally put the words I had been thinking for years into my head
“It just looks like... a damn cow”
I had thought that for years but could never vocalize it
I'd be interested in a comparison of assets from GM and SOG. 1970s Vietnam vs 1970s Germany!
I second this. I love both and think GM deserves more attention.
GM is late 80s not 70s.
The DLC is great but Arma III could really use some light attack and transport aircraft, like A-37 and PC-6 or the Buffalo. Big and fast fighters are quite complex to use depending on the map. Cheers
Really glad to support this channel. Great content as always, I hope to get Prairie Fire next time it goes on sale, didn't have the money when it released :P
If you add it to yourwishlist on Steam, and you'll be emailed when it goes on sale.
2:12 the F-4B and F-4C are pretty much the same plane, but the F-4C has some differences. The biggest structural difference was a bulge in the wing to accommodate the wider but smaller in diameter tires that it had. Other changes it had were the carrier launch bridle hooks were removed and their recesses covered, flight controls for the WSO (the USAF term for RIO), a shorter instrument panel for the WSO so they could see more effectively if they needed to use the rear seats flight controls, updated avionics, and updated radar, provisions for the Bullpup missile, switching to a boom and receptacle style in flight refueling system instead of the probe and drogue style, an uprated version of the J-79 engine that used a pyrotechnic starter, and provisions for the Falcon missile.
Prairie fire sound track is, well... fire!
I actually sent screenshots to a friend the day this DLC came out because of the high quality of the vehicle interiors like the F4. The PT boat is great fun, I like how it moves the accelerator handle up and down as you use the controller. The SA-2 mobile radar unit has a full interior and I synced it up to an SA-2 launcher which blew away an F-4 that got too close (in testing). This DLC is certainly top tier quality.
Now we need an Unsung-minus-all-the-stuff-from-PF mod.
I bought SOG prairie fire the day it came out and only NOW played it for the first time. 7 hours flew by like it was nothing. They did a great job.
Thanks for the vid Viper! Stay Beautiful! o7
"it just looks like... a damn cow" Haha! And that's why I love your content viper keep it up.
Nice comparison video. Thanks!
I never played arma 3 but i saw the trailer and footage for this dlc and bought it. Ive only played one of the single player scenarios where i go out with a squad and eliminate mortar groups but man it's like living history. It's not some linear call of duty, it's like if someone made a experience for people that were interested in reenactment and history buffs. I wish had gotten into it earlier. The only thing that could make this perfect is if they added a vr mode, i cant imagine how nervous id be hiding in the jungle at night. The sound production of the forest is the best I've ever experienced.
Good video, thank you
Viper1Zero, once again!
Its amazing how ive seen all these vehicles irl
F4 is badass, now I just gotta find a group that will let me fly it in an op
Only complaint I have with the Prairie Fire UH-1's. They sound awful while flying first person. You don't get to hear that satisficing thump the Huey is known for. Hopefully that gets fixed or modded in soon!
Damn that really sucks about the afterburner I know fire will does some awesome looking afterburner for his aircraft, hoping for some war thunder f4c afterburners!!
The Chocktaw is pretty nasty
That Prairie Fire Phantom is borderline erotic! 😀
F-4? More like FAP-4 amirite?
F4 faptom
Will this mod be updated where the VC gets the MIG or more aircraft
weare not able to confirm any future plans, in case we don't deliver. Sorry about that!
@@SavageGameDesign no worries y’all did a outstanding job on the dlc game
Can you please make a special video comparing all the content of SOG vs all the content of Unsung.
Loving the DLC !! Hope they add the M113, TOW for Cobras, Shilka and A-6 for kill those SA-2 (amazing the system is simulated and you can enter it) like in Flight of the Intruder :)
The SA-2 and all it's associated nonsense, including the transport truck, are my new favorite assets. Bar none.
I do wonder tho, will the team behind the Prairie fire DLC add more content to the DLC or they are just gonna leave it at that?
Sometimes I wish the F4 in SOGPR had the blistering speed that it does in the Unsung mod but I understand why it doesn't
LOVE YOU VIPER NEXT VID CAN YOU SHOW SOME AI IMPROVEMENTS LIKE LMABS ARE TCL PLEASE!!! LOVE YOUR VIDS
I was kinda disappointed in the lack of ground vehicles
this vid was really well done, will there be a ground vehicle comparison at some point? ive noticed the bulldog tank is incredibly inaccurate to real life, and it might be that way for some of the other ground vehicles too.
One issue I do have with the Praire Fire F-4 is that the AIM-9Es are way too good. You can lock onto someone and if they fly behind you, you can just fire a missile and it will pull a 180 degree turn off the rails and track perfectly.
Better idea: Combine them both, they work together
Cayuse, not Syracuse
I hope I don't carry the wish for >12km visibility to my grave without being granted!
I really wanna fly my Phantom in a legit environment for air strike.
Its bombing computer is AWESOME!
So can we delete the unsung mod now?
I wouldn’t!
I have been blown away by the cockpit detail of the helicopters ( that's what I prefer over fixed wing - sorry). :-) They rival the DCS Huey in functionality and detail. And the sounds are AWESOME! There is a difference from the Model B, C, P, and D model Hueys, though. The D Model has a longer cargo compartment and resembles the H Model that most people probably are familiar with. The H model has more HP, which was particularly important in Vietnam due to hot, low density air. Hopefully they will add that to future updates. You think the H-34 is ugly? I guess you've never seen the H-21 "Flying Banana" then? LOL
Ch47s and CH53s?. Or PAVN MI8s
Hi Viper, would it be possible to run through the weapon systems onboard the Phantom? Been trying to get the AIM 7 and AIM 9 working and can't figure it for the life of me, which is weird cause the AIMs on a F-181 work normally. Also, with the large selection of bombs.
(It might help it the Vietnamese had MiG- 19 and MiG-21s) 😏😏😏
AIM7 needs your radar to be on. Both missiles are quite short range
@@SavageGameDesign Yes, I figured that be the case, but so far the way I found to fire the weapons is to simply dumb fire them off the rails. For the AIM 7, I just line the enemy up with the little radar under the HUD, fire and dive away, which didn't seem correct to me since AFAIK the AIM 7 is Semi-Active and thus you should have to stay your course or deviate a little, but the 7 seems to act like it has its own seeker warhead? For the AIM9, I expected a sort of growling to indicate lock or the Bohemia diamond, but it also ended up to be using the HUD to fire it sort of like a rocket at the rear of most targets. I'm unfamiliar with earlier versions of the 7s and 9s and was wondering if what I did was correct or if I should be expecting a diamond at all, so I thought of asking?
Yeah the "Brick" is what grabbed my attention first, I mean that cockpit was almost Combat Flight Sim levels of detail, not just the Textures but all the gauges and Displays.
The Unsung Mod was good, but it was getting a bit long in the tooth, as far as aircraft go, the texturing almost reminds me of the Vietnam The Experience mod, back when Unsung itself came out.
Hmm now all we need is some additional navy stuff, like you know, the Crusader.... ;)
Guess the Air Force was really happy that the Navy had developed a decent Fleet Air Defense Fighter, although they did not use them that well....although the Navy should've taken the hint and included the gun.
all the old jets are so cool it's true.
The map alone is worth it. This is by far the best dlc to release
Does the F4 from the dlc have afterburner? I hate how unsung does it
there is no reliable way in Arma engine to make a good afterburner to a professional standard.
@@SavageGameDesign ah i see, firewills mods do have pretty good looking afterburner but not sure how he has it moddled but hey I can’t complain I’ve been waiting so long for a high fidelity F4 phantom
@@My_Name_Jeff69 yes, any modder can add one!
5:35 nahhh, the flying banana(Piasecki H-21) is the UGLIEST aircraft of the era or ever!!!
Ok yeah that thing is fugly too. Fair point.
Prairie fire has amazing detail and is a great DLC for arma by far. But I personally find unsung a better recreation of the Vietnam war, for example it had the A-4 Skyhawks which was used as the air to ground attack aircraft during the war. I find unsung has more weapons and vehicles that can be seen in documentary’s of the war.
How can I download Unsung? Because I can’t download anything right now for some reason.
Steam workshop is only way I know of.
Are there any vietnam gamemode servers where you can fly those badass choppers? I'm tired of war thunder sim mode, and this one looks amazing, moreover if you can actually give cas or evac to ground infantry
Mike Force servers that run with the SOG Prarie Fire DLC.
@@jaybeeonyt thanks man!
Late comment but, I don't understand why I don't have this DLC. I bought thee Ultimate Edition, so shouldn't I have it?
No the ultimate edition does not include new creator DLCs
Thank you for the video. But I really don't care about planes and choppers as for that aspect I only play DCS (top of realism, better graphics, better maps, real avionics, etc) , because arma 3 is way to simplistic and unrealistic in that regard. It is just pure arcade. So I only use arma for infantery. Infantery wise how does unsung compare to SOG? Guns models, reload animations, sounds, etc?
One thing I really hate about unsung is the chatter for all BLUFOR and OPFOR being in English and vietnamese respectively, no option to do a scenario as US troops in 1960s takistan or something because the obviously middle eastern takistanis start screaming in Vietnamese and kill all immersion. Furthermore, the unsung team's obsession with every pilot wearing a confederate flag helmet was.... disturbing.
Unsung has many different flight helmets. You can turn off the ambient voices by placing a module for it.
You can ask about any of this at the unsung discord, linked from Unsung steam page.
@@SavageGameDesign We stopped using the mod the moment the confederate chopper pilot helmet appeared, as it was decided the mod was not appropriate for our ops, but it's good to know you can turn off the ambient voices, which is is something our maker should have known about. I was pretty upset they wanted to stop using it entirely, because the unsung aircraft, my favorite is the A-3 Skywarrior are really nice to have on hand. maybe I'll suggest looking into it again.
@@jcdenton6074 There are about 20 flight helmets to choose from all based on real ones from Nam. If you don't like one helmet, you can swap it out easily.
@@SavageGameDesign You can't fix stupid.
ROG and Unsung 😉👍
Prairie Fire is ⚡️
look at the engines at 18:37... they are flaming and not in afterburn....
ruclips.net/video/BoDmgw_43oo/видео.html
Imagine still playing Unsung in 2021
Lots of folks do! One of the most widely played mods to this day. Maybe a little less now that Prairie Fire is out lol
OH-6 Minigun is bugged in the DLC though
works for me. please file a report if you are experiencing issues
community.sogpf.com/forum.php
@@SavageGameDesign scope is verry much offset from where it's actually firing
There’s no comparison one dlc you have to pay for the other is free
Way too early lol
this dlc is the only reason i bought arma3 i have about 130hr in vietnam never played the modern version of arma3 yet dont really care to
ch34 is really ugly yes, i have no idea what the pilots liked about that brick xD
SOG is the best !
It’s fire!
7 seconds ago lol
Best DLC packs since Apex?
Apex was mediocre...
Old man is pretty good
Ha, comment about the Chockta.... It is sooo ugly.
Ah, a man of culture.
Jesus Loves You
Its amazing how ive seen all these vehicles irl