No Shortcuts! An important drawing skill too many students try to avoid

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Комментарии • 429

  • @pianoatthirty
    @pianoatthirty Год назад +1364

    This message is spot on. The foundation of drawing is observing proportions. I can’t even fathom why someone would bother learning any kind of fancy rendering techniques until he or she has a good grasp of getting proportions right by eye. It’s like decorating a house before the foundation is even built.

    • @petewerehere
      @petewerehere Год назад +40

      They care more about having done art than actually doing it

    • @christofthedead
      @christofthedead Год назад +154

      Some people enjoy fancy rendering techniques more than they enjoy getting proportions right by eye. It's a similar phenomenon that led to interior decoration & house building becoming different industries/careers. Why do you think drawing, inking & colouring are different professions in the comic book industry? Not being able to fathom why different people enjoy different things is both a weird flex & a flimsy soapbox.

    • @Ahrone1586
      @Ahrone1586 Год назад +5

      @@christofthedead 🤡

    • @keepyourshoesathedoor
      @keepyourshoesathedoor Год назад +83

      @@christofthedead Some people can’t process that not everyone wants to draw the same way as them. I agree with you, dude.

    • @GayToBeHere
      @GayToBeHere Год назад +61

      @@christofthedead OP's comment reminds me of the saying "learn realism before you learn to draw cartoon". As much as it can be applied to adult art students, it is very understandable that people who draw just for fun will ignore that! And you know, drawing for fun as a kid is a good way to get into art~

  • @onose10000
    @onose10000 Год назад +465

    I was too lazy to draw the grids when i did portraits when i started learning on my own, i just kept eyeballing it. At first the proportions were always off and wonky, but eventually in time, i got used to the relationships of certain body/facial parts and it only got better from there. I'm glad being lazy helped me in a way I didn't expect.

    • @krystallindsey3378
      @krystallindsey3378 Год назад +40

      Yes I experienced this too. I didn't like having to draw the grids before doing the actual drawing. I just wanted to get to it.

    • @jonasbahn1466
      @jonasbahn1466 Год назад +27

      i know right? i used to always feel ashamed bc the grid-based tutorials with all their different tricks never really clicked with me, now i'm glad that i stuck to practicing the way i felt was right

    • @rinatennouji5988
      @rinatennouji5988 Год назад +2

      Tbh you can just use a notebook with grids already in it, but I agree that practice is necessary.

    • @Adam-kx2tp
      @Adam-kx2tp Год назад +7

      It's not laziness but actually passion.

    • @seatongrey315
      @seatongrey315 Год назад +6

      I started experiencing this but then listened to a ton of other popular artists who say construction is critical. It really made drawing a draining chore....Maybe I should go back to that freedom.

  • @MsGardener77
    @MsGardener77 Год назад +606

    I was taught to draw completely freehand. When I saw the concept of using a grid in an art book, I loved how precise it was! And then I was taught tracing and projectors in another class. Although all have had their place in my art, there's nothing like picking up a pencil and just sketching! Thanks for the thoughts, very good advice.

    • @GayToBeHere
      @GayToBeHere Год назад +31

      Honestly tracing can give very poor results if you don't understand how the figure under works. My art teacher would encourage everyone to trace photos when most students didn't even know the basis for drawing people. Results were wonky af and lifeless.

    • @SUGAR_XYLER
      @SUGAR_XYLER Год назад

      @@GayToBeHere exactly.
      I can't get into grids or tracing

    • @Koffling
      @Koffling Год назад +1

      @@SUGAR_XYLER I used a grid for the first time the other day because I had to do a mural based on a very detailed digital drawing. I worked out great. :) definitely a huge help when translating a design from 8 to 120 cm...they're just tools.

    • @SDW90808
      @SDW90808 Год назад

      @@GayToBeHere I like to trace to practice my line work, BUT... a big thing I've noticed is the original drawing doesn't always make sense to me, particularly in areas with detail. So, it's not a perfect solution. One thing that's helped step up my game is doing ink drawings of portraits from Earthsworld/Instagram/Google. I do these on cheap copy paper every morning, knowing they are disposable sketches, although I'll often scan them for later reference. A long winded way of saying I agree. lol

    • @fatherofdragons5477
      @fatherofdragons5477 11 месяцев назад

      The different rewards you get with the different methods::
      Seeing WHAT you can draw
      Seeing what YOU can draw

  • @Valmelma
    @Valmelma Год назад +254

    Got back into drawing 8 months ago after getting burned out some 4 years ago as I was just focused on studying "perfect" proportions on youtube videos (the easy, surgarcoated ones).
    Mind you, at that time I was drawing with a graphic tablet, and the stress of getting it right, creating something nice to look at was just too much for me.
    I got back into drawing with just some paper and a ballpoint pen, not caring about mistakes, making them permanent and still drawing over them, and as I got back, I found myself just wanting to "know" about some methods to get proportions down and completely disregard them most of the times, trusting my eyes first, which is actually extremely hard, but so much rewarding when it looks just "right.
    Something I noticed helped me is to look way more at the reference than I do at the paper, it takes time to get used to it but it's a game changer.
    I've been enjoying drawing ever since, and I'm now drawing at least once a month for the past 3 months, and I've just become so much better, each time I finish a sketch, I just notice how I'm getting better at something, little by little.
    Consistence is key. If you feel let down by drawings of yours just look at them, and look at much less recent ones, and you'll see just how much better you are, so keep going!
    Those are just some thoughts from a beginner artist, hope that can help someone out - or if it doesn't, it just felt nice to share.
    Wish everyone here a lovely life, and a great drawing time!

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +26

      I am sure you will help more than someone. And you’re so right looking more at the subject than at your paper works

    • @Hana-sd2ne
      @Hana-sd2ne Год назад +1

      Can someone please recommend me some other videos of Mr.Dunn that are relevant to this comment, particularly this part of the comment where it said “looking at the reference rather than the paper help with working the proportion of the subject more effectively.” Any other videos that provide helpful tips on that kind of topic?

    • @brownie3580
      @brownie3580 Год назад +1

      Something my art teacher said to me was to draw what you see, not what you think you see - particularly when trying to draw 3d stuff in real life with perspective-. Its easy to try to imagine the stuff you see beind the apple, but if you try to draw what you think you see it wont come out good, you gotta (look at the reference) and literally just draw what you see and stick to it

    • @footytakeout
      @footytakeout Год назад

      @@alphonsodunn When I was a kid, I drew video game characters, however it's been about 16 years since I left all of that. I'm trying to get back into drawing but as a beginner. So I would like to know which of your Playlist would you recommend I start from?

    • @okaden1015
      @okaden1015 Год назад

      @@Hana-sd2ne basically, as my art teacher said, and what the comment below your's says: draw what you see, not what you think you see.
      Study the reference, spend a good minute just looking at the reference before beginning. And once you start drawing, compare the 2 constantly. You should spend almost double the time looking at the reference than at your own photo.
      I hope this clears some things up. If you have any other questions, I would be more than willing to answer away

  • @asimian8500
    @asimian8500 Год назад +100

    *Don't take shortcuts. I started drawing during the lockdown and worked through Alphonso's Pen & Ink Drawing workbook and textbook* . I did all of the exercises including the 30+ final drawings at the end of the workbook. My thoughts? Fabulous. Even if you draw or paint, ink is not only an unforgiving medium but forces you to be confident. Not going to lie: I made plenty of mistakes and had to redo a number of pages, but by the end of the workbook I didn't.
    *Figure Drawing Tips* I've worked on portraits and figure drawings since then, and I've posted some examples in the original comment, but YT keeps taking them down. In any case, what you take from these exercises will help the integration of your mind and body and help you see proportions and shapes better. As for figure drawing, I started with construction lines but no longer use them and draw interlocking shapes (Bridgman calls it wedging) directly and figure out the proportion with my eye. Why not use construction lines? Because people have different proportions from the Loomis and other construction techniques. Great way to learn and that's what I did, but you understand its limitations the more you draw figures. How long did that take? Oh, about a 1000 figure drawings.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +6

      So inspiring! Thanks for sharing!

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 Год назад +1

      ​@@alphonsodunnThanks for shsring.xan you share what pen or pencil you are using here.and can you shareany tips on how to learn faster especially if you deal with ADD and depression and get discouraged easily? And do any of your videos cover how to learn to draw caricatures or caricature type.drawings quickly and easily? And how do you make such a long process like he posts above fun and enjoyable and not so time consuming ? Thanks for sharing.

  • @pandoraalberts5267
    @pandoraalberts5267 Год назад +52

    😍😍😍 love watching your sketches come together! I am nearly 70 and have spent 55 of those years as a commercial artist and illustrator, after being thrown out of school for doing nothing but doodle. When it comes to drawing figures from the imagination, the SPINE HAS IT ALL! The weight of the attitude, how the head is angled, how the pelvis and shoulders turn and tilt... All of this depends on the spine.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +8

      So true. The spine twists and turn and determines the angle of the axes

  • @TeethCollect
    @TeethCollect Год назад +40

    Such a great well structured video. I think a lot of the time students get too focused on the specifics of “perfect proportions” and matching their study to look exactly like the reference that they forget to look to see if the study actually looks right. Just because a study doesn’t mimic the ref exactly, doesn’t mean it’s a bad drawing 😤

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +3

      Exactly. Those works are often much more expressive

  • @drago987
    @drago987 Год назад +26

    My favorite tool has been a proportional divider. I try not to depend on it too heavily but I find it’s a great way to check my work when things seem a little off.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +3

      That's completely fine, Its not let them get in the way of us learning the skills that's important

  • @JH-pe3ro
    @JH-pe3ro Год назад +23

    Having just gone through a year of training up my proportions, I have this to say: every tool can be used as either a shortcut, or an error correction method.
    At the start of the process, I did some tracing in digital, using my phone and a capacitive stylus(the cheapest way to draw on a screen), and made the source material progressively more blurry so that I had to interpret more of the shape. This trained a lot of awareness of what proportions were, because I could see that every time I did this with a figure, I could maintain accuracy of the larger shapes but started to guess with the small ones and flatten out hands and heads. So I observed whole shapes, rather than lines.
    Later, I did some gesture drawing, using my desktop and a non-screen tablet. Here, I made a quadrant grid to start the sketch and give me a reference point for where my center is relative to the reference's center. This helped a little, but I was still working in digital, and what I noticed with digital was that the latency, aliasing, smoothing, scaling, and disconnected feel of a desktop tablet all made things more confusing and inconsistent: If I'm watching a cursor on a 60hz screen, the cursor is always at least 16 milliseconds behind what I'm doing, which means I can't easily adjust a line while I make it.
    This thought led me to compare screen vs not more closely and see what other people on RUclips were using: my conclusion was that if you're really drawing for accuracy, you're probably going to gravitate towards traditional or a screen tablet. All the animators, in particular, seem to use large displays - and you know they're drawing a ton. But if you're rough sketching, painting, making edits, the difference matters a lot less, because you can go back and sculpt the shape.
    Finally, I moved towards ink sketching, and my main study project became to copy every page of Morpho. Here, I started applying sight-size and comparative measurement. I didn't pressure myself to get things perfect, just to make one attempt at each image. The first few pages looked like my gestures: I used a quadrant and rushed through each one. Gradually I introduced more use of sight-size, picking up the sketchbook to line it up with the source. By around page 100, I had had some breakthroughs, became increasingly fastidious, and could start using just my eye and my pen more and more. After another 100 pages I became more interested in comparative measurement just so that I wasn't constantly picking up the book. I had also learned some ways of disguising my prospecting marks.
    I've finished the book now and have started the same project with Ken Hultgren: Art of Animal Drawing, and I found that it taught me some new things about proportion because the style of drawing is different, not because the text had any advice on proportions.
    So my conclusion is that actually, it's not about whether these techniques are shortcuts, it's about "isolation practice": study of each of the techniques deeply, like Bruce Lee's "one kick 10,000 times", and you get more comfortable at accessing an overall sense of proportion; copying a book full of similar drawings builds up familiarity for that material. And at the very beginning, it's less frustrating to use techniques with very strong error correction, which tracing and grids do: you just have to also progress to other forms of training. I actually have a grid drawing book I'm planning to go through, because I'm pretty sure a more intensive use of grids will show me some new things.

  • @arioctober
    @arioctober Год назад +74

    This is such a good video. I definitely avoid shortcuts when practicing and daily sketching, but if all I care about is getting a pretty looking result, I'll do whatever it takes to get there. I'm really glad you addressed that shortcuts have a place!! Occasionally making something that just looks good without putting a million hours into it really helps motivate me and then I practice more so maybe one day I can do it without needing any help from tracing or grids at all haha.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +6

      Ultimately, thats the goal

    • @atticustay1
      @atticustay1 Год назад +1

      The more you use grids etc the longer it will take you to be able to do it without. Do you think Leonardo and Michelangelo used grids and tracing?

    • @GrammerPancreas
      @GrammerPancreas Год назад +3

      @@atticustay1 I mean, we don't actually know what they did because we don't exactly have accounts of their processes. Considering Leonardo's obsession with inventions though, I feel he no doubt had some tools to help. It's not like people in the Renaissance did everything completely unassisted.
      Besides, that goes counter to the point of the video. The point is not to never use tools, it's to know when to use them, and when to not.

  • @nesdingo
    @nesdingo Год назад +15

    I always thought I was being lazy by not measuring out everything perfectly and just eyeing it. 😅Thank you so much for giving me a boost in confidence!

  • @myrrhis01
    @myrrhis01 Год назад +13

    Fear of failure is HUGE for me. I am ok during sketching, for the most part, but I can freeze up when it comes to inking or painting.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +4

      The best way to break that fear is to just push through it! Then you’ll wonder what was the fear about all this time

  • @equesdeventusoccasus
    @equesdeventusoccasus Год назад +44

    Many years ago trying to draw a portrait for a commission, and drawing draft after draft, using various methods and even trying to just draw it.
    In the end what was holding me back was something I learned in a sculpting class I had taken many years prior to that in which I learned that a nose was two eyeballs long. When I really looked at my reference images of the individual, I realized that the nose was almost three eyeballs long. Since then, I have strived to always see what is there, then draw what I see, not rely on perfect world models.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +8

      Precisely! In fact thats the way we should use models: As a base upon which you make adjustments, not as a “one size fits all” for all subjects.

  • @beaver7020
    @beaver7020 Год назад +2

    Hey Alphonso I started drawing at 12 and 13 and I'm proud to say I'm a free hand drawer I refuse to trace and use lightbox and I'm proud of it!!!!!

  • @BigWavesKays
    @BigWavesKays Год назад +12

    Literally was tracing 3d models as you posted this. Thanks for the mentorship!

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +8

      haha sorry.

    • @miqerman
      @miqerman Год назад

      tracing could be useful when starting to learn anatomy i guess

  • @TheJoyfulEye
    @TheJoyfulEye Год назад +2

    My mother was an artist, but when I became interested in learning to draw and asked her to teach me, she was no help to me at all. She would take the pencil away from me, say "You go like this", and draw something. I would say, "Yes, I can see that "you go like that" but how do you KNOW to "go like that"? How do you know which way to turn the pencil and how far, etc.? This was back in the day before computers and RUclips; I couldn't afford time or money for classes; so I resorted to the library and eventually came across a book called "The Natural Way to Draw" by Kimon Nicolaides, where I learned about blind contour drawing. Betty Edwards' book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" is more comprehensive but actually I think his instructions on how to do blind contour are better than hers. There are many other good books which concern other aspects of drawing, but for me, doing blind contour studies was the foundational lesson. Anyway, I do admire your videos --- thanks for the good advice!

  • @DreamingCatStudio
    @DreamingCatStudio Год назад +5

    At 68 all my art has been out of my imagination. I’ve recently desired to learn how to draw what I see, even if just to enhance my imaginative pieces. Gosh it’s hard! I have to believe I can learn though. Off to buy your books!

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +1

      It is possible. You will have to slow down though, and really look more carefully

    • @DreamingCatStudio
      @DreamingCatStudio Год назад

      @@alphonsodunn Yes, those seem to be the trick. Plus those lines you teach to help orient everything to each other, the horizon and the whole. Plus an eraser! ☺️

  • @MrBlack-wt5er
    @MrBlack-wt5er Год назад +1

    Thank you! Now I know I'm not wasting my time just drawing! I've been banging away at it with no Loomis method, no nothing, just hours of work!

  • @laurelb4193
    @laurelb4193 Год назад +53

    Thank you for this encouragement to use our hands and eyes and senses, it is very motivating! Had a portrait class which was amazing in most ways but the teacher would nitpick at the imperfections in our drawings, like being a tiny bit off on the precise line of the chin, or the exact width between the eyes, etc. We were told that if we wanted to trace instead of draw on our own, it was totally legit. Didn’t love this idea myself bc I can trace a photo in like 10 minutes and get very little satisfaction from it, and did not need to take a class to learn to trace. On the other hand, I was frustrated when a from-scratch drawing would turn out a little wonky. Then I just didn’t feel like doing much drawing after that, which I’m sure was my bad. Drawing is such a nice sensory experience though, plus I’m sure there are neurological benefits, umm like hand eye coordination or whatever, so thank you for this pep talk! 🤩
    Oh here is a good article about the neurological benefits of sketching: www.invaluable.com/blog/sketch-drawing/

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +7

      I agree, there is just something about the experience you get with a from-scratch drawing. Thanks for that very thoughtful comment, will definitely check out the article

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 Год назад +1

      I don’t think your teacher was nit picking. Knowing the proportion of eye distance and other face measurements is a basic in portraiture. Getting the centerlines are a basic too. If you haven’t done it you’ve efffed up. If you do t know it you will eff up.

  • @cookiemonster3147
    @cookiemonster3147 Год назад

    You are absolutely right. Sometimes I use a projector to create the underdrawing for a painting, but I'm so glad I learned how to draw in the classic way.

  • @HeyDirty
    @HeyDirty Год назад

    Always love checking out your videos!
    (They're short and concise, easy to digest.)

  • @amexjam55
    @amexjam55 Год назад +9

    Excellent advice. I prefer working out proportions by eye rather than relying on shortcuts. It may not always come out right but it's all part of learning and improving ones skill.

  • @alidee5119
    @alidee5119 6 месяцев назад

    The way you speak when you teach s so relaxing. It matches the way you draw. I also feel in the way you describe things that I can do it. You are a gifted and natural teacher. Thank you so much, I excited to practice. People keep telling me to make shapes but I have always drawn more through my own vision so I appreciate the realxed way you decribe drawing.

  • @carrotfreak1
    @carrotfreak1 Год назад

    Thanks for the tip, I’ve recently got back into working on improving my drawing skills again.

  • @sherribrown294
    @sherribrown294 Год назад +1

    I like the mirror test, Love your work!! Thank you 🙋🏼‍♀️

  • @andpersand25
    @andpersand25 Год назад +1

    I like the message here and it brings attention to the ways I see my art and realize things are off when I draw without close reference, recently, I found a habit of measuring things in heads after I set the base outline with the basic anatomy, and I usually draw at an almost exact 6 head/5 head tall person at most times.
    This led to me trying out drawing children that had a noticeably different 4 head tall anatomy and it's been a fun challenge!

  • @Bassbarbie
    @Bassbarbie Год назад +1

    This makes me feel so much better. I am a beginner and was feeling that I should be drawing a grid etc. That just seems so boring and 'rigid', but I am struggling to do it freehand. I have tried using my pencil to try and work out proportions and I'm just going to keep practising! I love these short sweet videos, thank you. I've actually come here to try and find your books as I'm just re-starting and this time I plan to keep at it!

  • @MarleyPeifer
    @MarleyPeifer Год назад

    Love the focus on the idea of relationships. Thanks for stressing these foundational skills that are so important.

  • @ivann1068
    @ivann1068 Год назад +1

    Such a good video, I have also been struggling with this for some time, until I started going to drawing lessons where the teacher opened my eyes. There are too many tracers on the internet who call themselves artists, and the young people who look up at them become skeptic about how their work needs to be perfect. The point of art is to be free, learn from your mistakes and explore as much as you can.

  • @MarcHendry
    @MarcHendry Год назад +2

    totally agree and I always struggled to articulate the same ideas myself when talking to people about it 👌

  • @Jonathan-a-az
    @Jonathan-a-az Год назад +1

    This was a great video and at the perfect time. Having just sat down and knocked out a page of heads, then sitting back to review them, I'm seeing some decent proportions and perspective with some of the heads but also some proportions and perspective that are askew. It can be very aggravating to not have everything perfect but your video reaffirms the idea that I try to remember (but sometimes forget) that: it's not about perfection right now but a gradual path towards long term improvement. I love your work and the encouraging way you talk about drawing. Thanks.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад

      The timely process is what brings the deep long lasting sense of fulfillment, not the shortcut or quick way

  • @SarahNewburyArt
    @SarahNewburyArt Год назад

    So true! Your books have really inspired me and also helped me to let go of perfection and trust the process! Thank you Alfonso! 😊

  • @darlenesassmann9418
    @darlenesassmann9418 Год назад

    This is the only way I draw. Listening to you today confirmed what I am doing in my work and that I am doing the right thing. Thank you very much.

  • @magnum567134
    @magnum567134 Год назад +2

    The first part is pretty much how I do figure drawing. One piece of advice I got that always stayed with me was "draw what you see, not what it is." I feel like it's a little hard to explain without visuals, but basically instead of trying to draw a leg, I draw a serious of lines that resemble a leg. And these are drawn using reference points and measurements made through observation. This approach has helped me with foreshortening and perspective

    • @ClearAbyss
      @ClearAbyss Год назад +1

      Reminds me of my middle school art teacher. He would say, "Draw what you see, not what you think you see". Basically focus on taking down whats actually in front of you, and not your mental representation or symbol of the object(s).

  • @chinonsovictor6531
    @chinonsovictor6531 9 месяцев назад

    Mr Alphonso your videos are really one of a kind! 🙏🏽🥰

  • @edzejandehaan9265
    @edzejandehaan9265 Год назад +3

    Couldn't agree more. Never used grids or trace. I also find drawing without such shortcuts is the most satisfying, a very important aspect as I just make art for fun!

  • @thespacedisland5746
    @thespacedisland5746 Год назад

    wow! I REALLY needed this! I was recently get stuck in this rut of just drawing blanks while I stared at this clean, perfect outlining I'd set up but by taking your advice and try to not rely so much on outlines and worrying about mistakes, I've really let my imagination take the reins and as a result I've drawn some really neat stuff! THANK YOU!!!

  • @BigBandelero
    @BigBandelero Год назад +1

    I have both your books which I ordered from Amazon about a year ago. Great books!
    Then, today I saw your video, didn’t know you were here on RUclips, and of course I’m subscribed.
    I do like going out to different parts of town and filling a few pages with gesture drawings. You are forced to lean into the process and be fast, because no one is posing for you. You also have to pay attention to what you see, retain it and capture as much information as possible before the subject moves (which could be at any second). I haven’t done it in a while, been thinking about it, and watching your video has encouraged me to get out there again.

  • @samguentherillustration
    @samguentherillustration Год назад

    I agree with the getting a feel for proportions as you do it more. You start to get an intuition for how the layout of a composition and line placement works without having to erase, but remaining loose and flexible is always important

  • @smolenbyy
    @smolenbyy Год назад +1

    Ive always been the type to struggle to rely on grids and things like that so seeing this is so reassuring. I still have a long way to go with my anatomy but I work so much better by eye. Thank you for this explanation ❤

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +1

      Practicing to work by eye is a very good thing. Grids are useful but don’t substitute them for learning the process

  • @hinda7298
    @hinda7298 Год назад +1

    Our art teacher used to always tell us to draw what our see. Not what our brain sees.
    As in, we have to draw however the subject is seen, not how you know it's supposed to be.
    And it truly helped me so much more than using grids.

  • @SusanHaumeder
    @SusanHaumeder Год назад +1

    Wonderful. I especially appreciated the observation that relying on shortcuts trains your mind to be passive. Maybe that is stronger than you said, but I think that is what happens.

  • @priamgrey6043
    @priamgrey6043 Год назад

    I'm a self-taught beginner. I learned so many things from your videos. I binged watch it. Thank you so much sir.

  • @davelowther2499
    @davelowther2499 Год назад

    Sound advice, thank you.

  • @bejan33art
    @bejan33art Год назад

    So nice to see the progress,

  • @Robynahillpaints
    @Robynahillpaints Год назад

    Excellent video for a decent but stiff and frustrated draftsman! Thank you

  • @fetabrown
    @fetabrown Год назад

    Your drawing videos have been the most valuable in helping work on proportions and developing line drawing techniques. Thanks for the good work.

  • @Syrupandwaffles
    @Syrupandwaffles Год назад +1

    And drawing things in different styles can help you experiment with proportions as well. Specially if you’re going for a more stylized or cartoonish look.

  • @sylviahowell7802
    @sylviahowell7802 Год назад

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @waheednasir
    @waheednasir Год назад

    Thats very true ! Thanks very much for all the info.

  • @XSiempreSolo
    @XSiempreSolo Год назад

    Good stuff man, thanks!

  • @Jerry10939
    @Jerry10939 Год назад

    I agree 100%. I see too many people copying photos trying to do portraits without learning to draw first.

  • @gabrieltorres2882
    @gabrieltorres2882 Год назад

    Oh my God, I have your book! Didn't know that you had a channel! Instant subscriber!

  • @markjannakos503
    @markjannakos503 Год назад

    this is an extremely important subject. and you handled it very well. nice work! thank you

  • @johanwindhART
    @johanwindhART Год назад

    another great vid. Thanks Alphonso.

  • @tbluemel
    @tbluemel Год назад +1

    Awesome video! Being self-taught, I have only learned to draw by seeing. I have developed an uncanny ability to measure proportions, distances, relationships by eye. Then I took a course in measuring and proportion - and realized I concentrated more on doing measurements than looking, seeing and drawing! Thank you for this video.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +1

      Yes, spending more or just as much time looking at the subject as you do actually drawing is important

  • @carlospelaezsosa5011
    @carlospelaezsosa5011 Год назад +1

    Recently I started uploading some of my drawings on RUclips and I'm running out of material, so I've been tempted to star tracing or even buy a tracing protector. This video reassured me that I'm doing the right thing by not using "short cuts" and keep training my brain of how to draw the right proportions. Thank you!

  • @ianredpath8359
    @ianredpath8359 Год назад

    A great teacher of art.

  • @Bubblebeets
    @Bubblebeets Год назад +1

    Thank you!!!

  • @audra2678
    @audra2678 Год назад +6

    Thank you so much for this! As someone new to drawing, I wasn't sure I was going about learning the "right" way for me. I have never traced or used a grid. I am thinking of getting a tool to help me trace, but I like some of the things I'm doing by eye alone. I have a process of 3 steps. 1. I try to draw something from memory. 2. I watch and follow along with a tutorial. 3. I use a reference to look at. I found that using a reference works best for me, but I'm erasing a lot. I want to be able to confidently paint on canvas, but I don't think I'm there yet. Anyway, sorry for rambling. 🙄 Thank you for all the videos you post, they really do help!

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +4

      Erasing is fine, eventually you’ll erase less and less

  • @agold1702
    @agold1702 Год назад

    Thanks-this lesson will make us stronger artists.

  • @ronjohnson4566
    @ronjohnson4566 10 месяцев назад

    great video. great advice. i taught painting and drawing for many years. So many students look for shortcuts and miss out on the beauty of eye-hand coordination, the sensualness of a beautiful line (like the sketch you were doing), the depth and breadth of color. Art makes a person who is interested search for answers to questions many people don't know to ask. So thanks. great video..

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for sharing

  • @blairgrimaldi
    @blairgrimaldi Год назад

    This is so helpful, and I wish I'd had this instruction seven years ago when I started to learn. I was so dreadful at proportions that I just gave up and resigned myself to tracing the outlines and general positions or using grids because I'm so much better at the finer details. (Partly due to my constant quest for perfection and the fact I'd lose interest if I couldn't get it right from the start.) It's really held me back and I'm only now gaining confidence and starting to truly enjoy working out proportions, even if they're still far from perfect. I always felt like a cheat when I was complimented on a finished product and felt compelled to explain each time that I could only claim credit for the details and not the layout. Now I truly feel like I've accomplished something worthy when I finish a piece on my own.
    I've enjoyed your videos for some time now and you continue to inspire me. Greetings from the Caribbean. Keep up the great work!. -bg

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад

      This is so inspiring! I am happy you came around. You found a shortcut to the finish line, only to realize the best feeling came from the long run

  • @ۥۦۥ
    @ۥۦۥ Год назад

    love your art style

  • @dwbrady5795
    @dwbrady5795 Год назад

    I am learning that this video is true from the first words. Thank you Alphonso.

  • @jude1515
    @jude1515 Год назад

    Beautiful drawings!

  • @tenlineline6190
    @tenlineline6190 Год назад

    your videos have helped me out a lot thank you for making them

  • @jik3905
    @jik3905 Год назад

    God bless! Thank you for this! Also prayer here when wanted!

  • @Madsdross
    @Madsdross Год назад +1

    This is spot on, just yesterday I drew without any grids and I'm so surprised the proportions looked really good and also I noticed some mistakes
    when it came to eyes and hands which I corrected later.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад

      👏👏👏Youre training your mind, eyes, and hand-eye coordination

    • @Madsdross
      @Madsdross Год назад

      @@alphonsodunn 💯

  • @hxthead
    @hxthead Год назад

    THANK YOU

  • @stephenbrowne7340
    @stephenbrowne7340 Год назад

    Another fantastic video. It reminds that I'm doing the right thing, even if it is difficult.

  • @katm8128
    @katm8128 Год назад

    I've been burned out on making original pieces for commissions. i had to step back to just draw straight from one reference for practice. this helps

  • @sheraaa9169
    @sheraaa9169 11 месяцев назад

    Your teaching is so good thank you

  • @mariafarina14
    @mariafarina14 Год назад

    RUclips has recommended me your channel recently, I'm so happy I've clicked on that thumbnail! Subscribed :)

  • @afterimage1993
    @afterimage1993 Год назад +2

    ngl you deserve more attention.

  • @Eternal-ReTuning
    @Eternal-ReTuning 7 месяцев назад

    Drawing what I love helps me get into the heavy task of layering the proportions/anatomy correctly pushing me to improve likeness and observation skills.
    This has motivated me enough to study form under the skin level, there is A LOT going on in the face region, it is valuable to have that knowledge in mind since it can always be ported on ANY refs. There is region of the face where the bones are dominant others where the muscles are overlapping in specific directions to guide the shading.
    Also drawing still life accurately require more observation, discipline and organisation sometimes and share similarity on how to draw hair since it can have complex shapes.

  • @resentfusion5634
    @resentfusion5634 Год назад

    Thank you very much for the video

  • @azariahthealkhemist2665
    @azariahthealkhemist2665 Год назад

    Brilliant wisdom

  • @anversailles
    @anversailles Год назад +5

    While I agree that it's important as a foundational skill in art, for professional work (I make character illustrations) I always rely on measurements to have a very consistent looking output. I draw a lot freehand to improve and it does show up more and more when I use references since I know what to exaggerate better when comparing it to the freehand sketch.

  • @amyrenee1361
    @amyrenee1361 Год назад +1

    This is wisdom that can be applied in all aspects of life. Shortcuts cut you short!

  • @LipaKubik
    @LipaKubik Год назад

    Good tutorial, thanks

  • @GoblinLord
    @GoblinLord Год назад +1

    the funny thing to me is, I never actually traced as a kid, I just visually broke down shapes and drew what I saw, I would call it tracing cause I copied another person's art style, though I do wish my first art style wasn't fairy odd parents, been trying to get big head mode out of my art style for years.
    basically though, all I did is stuff like "Timmy has a head shaped like a D" then draw that letter D, then put the circle ear, and so on, sorta like building a skeleton in my head before I touched the paper then I drew over that skeleton when it was ""on"" the paper, I couldn't afford stuff like projections and tracing was too hard to do since I could really only do it by putting paper on the tv or computer screen and it was very uncomfortable, so I just ended up having to wing it most of the time

  • @anonymousartist3645
    @anonymousartist3645 Год назад +1

    Thank you soo much

  • @samiier3324
    @samiier3324 Год назад +2

    I've always enjoyed drawing freehand and when i learned about the grid method i thought it was like cheating. And I still kept drawing freehand . Now I know that this was the best choice . I might not be as good at rendering but i get the proportions and perspective right

  • @nathgv2356
    @nathgv2356 5 месяцев назад

    thank you

  • @AWESOMO5
    @AWESOMO5 Год назад

    Great explanation and mannn you have a golden voice, could listen to an audiobook of War And Peace read by you on a long road trip

  • @alnicacherelledelapena5231
    @alnicacherelledelapena5231 Год назад

    I never understood art tutorials on yt where they would whip out a ruler then measure guidelines. I thought they were a waste of time and i never sat down and got to learn it 😭 i wanted to just get into the fun parts and draw. Im glad my stubbornness helped somehow lol

  • @artwhat..
    @artwhat.. Год назад

    Thanks..

  • @advsonhere
    @advsonhere Год назад +5

    We are faced with the same dilemma: doing maths by mind versus with a calculator/computer, driving a manual car versus an automatic one (and soon completely autonomous ones), drawing everything with pencil and paper versus drawing on a tablet. From this also arises the idea that those who do things with the help of technology are not so real.
    My stand on this is that, without a doubt, starting learning the manual mode and then the digital one is much more advantageous than just learning from the beginning only the digital ways, but if one focuses on the final result (a math operation result, getting to be at a place we need to be, having the illustration we need to show/explain/ something, etc.), the way it was done becomes, in a way, irrelevant, that is, the method used to achieve the result, doesn't, in a way, matter that much anymore. The good thing about technology is that, if nothing out of the ordinary happens in the world, we won't lose it. And as for the skills that we stop teaching the brain because technology gives us shortcuts, we have to give it new challenges.

  • @eduardojosevazquez6454
    @eduardojosevazquez6454 Год назад

    Excelente trazo y soltura en el dibujo, me parecio muy bueno, el video y sobre todo didactico, mis felicitaciones al buen artista!!.

  • @arknark
    @arknark Год назад

    Good video, and I love that sketch of the old dude

  • @RAOCK-ART-SPAIN
    @RAOCK-ART-SPAIN 11 дней назад +1

    Nice !!

  • @filipmilovanovic8942
    @filipmilovanovic8942 Год назад +1

    Another thing people don't realize: if you blindly use the grid method without already having developed a good sense of proportion, you can still end up with things not looking quite right - in part because you'll make subtle errors when constructing the grid (it's not going to be even), and in part because you'll make tiny mistakes within the squares, and won't be able to course-correct and unify the patchwork, cause you won't be able to notice when things are off. It's probably going to end up looking OK, but it might not look as great as it could. You still have to be able to transcend the grid.

  • @leonorlatour9250
    @leonorlatour9250 Год назад +1

    Thank you. I'm a beginner and I totally agree with you. Nevertheless, using some shortcuts has helped me getting a better look at the reference photo and finding out where my eyes (or my brain?) were getting me wrong. So it helped me drawing freehand too.

    • @alphonsodunn
      @alphonsodunn  Год назад +1

      And this is one of the ways it should be used. Not as the ONLY way

  • @surreal9558
    @surreal9558 Год назад +1

    One of my biggest inspirations in art is Kim Jung Gi. He's famous for drawing by eye and by memory, and was the reason why i decided to go freehand. RIP.

  • @rebel5140
    @rebel5140 Год назад +2

    You cannot develop a "style" if you do not work on the basics.

  • @enriquepelenato4956
    @enriquepelenato4956 Год назад

    Love this. I think it comes down to what students want... some people are happy with tracing and using grids... but the real OG's to me are the ones who want to draw like the old masters.

    • @casanovafunkenstein5090
      @casanovafunkenstein5090 11 месяцев назад

      The old masters literally used specialised lenses to project the image of the people they were painting directly onto the surface they were using.

    • @enriquepelenato4956
      @enriquepelenato4956 11 месяцев назад

      @@casanovafunkenstein5090 probably, but it's dumb to assume those tools are responsible for all the masterpieces they created back then. There is such thing as developing your observational skills to a degree you can accurately capture what you're looking at. Tools help but to rely on it completely handicaps you in the long run.

  • @narutodayo
    @narutodayo Год назад

    Your videos are always great.

  • @Portitforward
    @Portitforward Год назад +2

    Drawing from life and not from flat 2d images is necessary for developing the eye. Cheers

  • @gigacat1703
    @gigacat1703 Год назад

    Why is this the first time I've ever heard anyone say this? Makes perfect sense