"Are we celebrating music, or are we celebrating consumerism?" - well-said pushback on people who don't have much to say about music but love flaunting their pocketbooks. Thanks for sharing your genuine and insightful love of music with us. A fantastic personal analysis of this Too Dark Park !!!
its sad when album reviewers who review albums before there time and call timeless albums like vivi sect vi outdated.. they just dont know its cultural significance
instead of asking me if i have a shirt or what specific second of what song on an album was my favorite they need to check their able-bodied privilege to freely consume material lmao and seemingly without a cost in the world at that. yet they'll still solicit your donations, no problem. someone that's literally buying into it to look like a fan is in essence putting their money where their mouth and ass are, and a poser isn't a friend of mine. couldn't even entertain the prospect of being friends with some of the people i see online because they regularly tell minors as well as the q-eer and disabled to d-e if they so much as disagree with some delusional standpoint made from a pedestal
I took a date on a night hike a few days ago, it was already really dark, we could barely see where we were going, she asked me "what kind of park is this?" I said "A too dark park".. and smirked... you better believe I was proud of myself
Unfortunately, the two tours that really needed to be documented weren't. Too dark park and last rights both had amazing stage shows and are considered peak live puppy..sadly only rough quality bootlegs exist
And sir we are here for it....so thank you. It's not a rant it's respect. This one took me a damn minute....but I really really really appreciated the album. I still get a bit reminiscent in parks that are too dark, like.all aggressively chainsmokey and weepy. Good times.
Thanks, Amanda! I think most Skinny Puppy albums take getting used to in their own way, but the best and deepest albums tend to grow on us. The way it should be!
good review yet again and i agree with you on the whole hipster record collector stuff. they are the tools that have driven up the price on records. i got a copy of mind tpi for 6 bucks in the early 2000's thats how it should be. too dark park on vinyl is like 300 bucks now on the resale market thanks to this crap.
@@RasMix1 Oh wow, 300 bucks?? Jesus. I guess that's a statement to the album's greatness, but that's pretty crazy. I do get very annoyed with people focusing on the wrong things, then other people celebrating those people who focus on the wrong things. I'm just intensely bored with this money worship shit. It's truly deflating.
Last Rights is an excellent album. Ministry Filth Pig album way underrated in my opinion and it's one of those albums I return to frequently. Maybe you could review it sometime.
Thank You Mr. Feelgood, from a fellow SP lover who came of age around the same time! Would love to see a show with you and Cevin exchanging your points of view with each other on how the music affected you both when it came out.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Lately Cevin has been trying his hand doing interviews with folks he has worked with, like this one with Frontline Assembly ruclips.net/video/P0Q8Xq8-CW0/видео.html. He's always been pretty quiet about his work, leaving it up to listener interpretation I think. But I imagine a format where you have the artist describing something about what was happening in their life when they produced an album. Then juxtaposed with that, you have a listener describing something from their own experiences when listening to the album.
That Spasmolytic 12" was my introduction to Skinny Puppy about 6 years ago when I was 13 and I was fucking mind blown. The record was my mom's which was probably my uncle's before hers. I'm thankful to have a cool family that got me into one of the greatest bands of all time
A few things, the opening sounds in Convulsion are also samples from Communion, and the lyrics are clearly printed in both the CD and cassette versions I got in the 90's.
Found TDP only a few years ago when I was about 19 and it hit me way harder than other SP albums. I agree it somehow feels less aggressive but I would still describe it as frantic and creepy in a way at times, but not quite as dark and nightmarish as Last Rights or Cleanse Fold Manipulate. Or maybe that interpretation of frantic energy is purely from the state of mind I was in when I found it. Like hearing my restlessness in the form of audio, it's comforting to me because I felt it matched my wavelength. It has a surreal feeling to me that I love so much. I love SP but I find a lot of their music is too straight forward for me. But with TDP starting off with Convulsions... Just fucking awesome. Tormentor was my favorite song on the album for a while but Shore Lined Poison and Rash Reflection really creeped up on me and took over I would say. I didn't like Nature's Revenge at first but it really is a nice song. Lately I find myself listening to Last Rights more though, and that is kinda the last album by them that I really listen to. And I don't know why but I really can't seem to get into Rabies... I like Rodent and Worlock but they are kinda low on my list of SP songs
“Are we promoting music or consumerism”, man if Oge or CK saw this video it would bring a tear to their eyes. I have seen that guys videos and you forgot to mention that he probably has a pair of those rubber testicles hanging from his truck lol. Another great video, and yes, can you please do a video on Ministry’s “Mind” album.
T.F.W.O., Morpheus Laughing, and Reclamation ending the album are hardly "trickling out". Morpheus Laughing might be the best song on the album in my humble estimations. To each their own. Still one of the greatest albums of all time.
I have a vinyl collection 9 of them are puppy albums. It's about 50 to 60 all together give or take different albums. Every single album I got, moved me in some way or another. All made my hair stand up so to speak. I totally get your rank, why did you buy if your soul didn't need it to function. So yeah anyways that album your holding is my next goal. Too dark park melted my 12 year old brain. Best advice is as loud as you can take it and in head phones. So you can hear it swirling around in your skull and your brain breaking down each sound and download from movies. It's a work of art and was a game changer for industrial music! That album made me want to put them on my skin and go to every tour I could go to since 1992' I hope your going this round. 40 years, final tour as skinny puppy! See you line with the rest of us!!! Love how you explain vinyl love too! I got it for Christmas. Had it in headphones. And was gone!!! I hope that vortex never leaves my soul!
There was a CD store in my neighborhood where you could preview CDs on headphones. I had the clerk cue up Too Dark Park, maximum gain on the headphones, and I pressed play… track one… Convulsions. I’ve never been a fan of death metal, but anything anyone could ever hope to get from death metal I got times ten for the next three minutes.
And if you notice, the "Dub" version of Natures Revenge has deeper bass and drums in the mix. And yes, Too Dark Park can be pricey on vinyl for the OG pressing.
Hell yea! Great stuff once again. The rant on consumerism is definitely on point. Its one of the major downfalls to all the great technology we have, but my fear is, it's only going to get worse with time and the introduction of NFTs and Blockchain Technology infiltrating the art world and music. Too Dark Park has a special place in my life also, trying to understand the world around me when I was 18 and listening to these tracks was an otherworldly experience. Agreed Nature's Revenge is hands down one of there all time greats and masterpieces, keep up the great work!!
Thanks, man! I try to not get sucked down the rabbit hole too much, but I can't stand it when I see this bizarre money-worship going on, ya know? People ignore and don't comment on it, and that's weird and dangerous, too. Especially when it comes to a SP discussion who are inherently against all those types of things. Yeah, "Nature's Revenge" is a really brilliant piece of work. One of their masterpieces for sure!
I love just about every album they've ever made. There's a few I'm not ecstatic about but this one is the best. I really love their newer albums Mythmaker and Weapon but holy shit, you cannot beat Too Dark Park. You're not kidding. An amazing album with a flawless Side 1. These guys, along with Thrill Kill Kult and Lords of Acid, were a huge inspiration for me as a musician. Wildly creative, excellent sampling and just plain strange as hell. Pure brilliance.
Masterpiece, listened again for the anniversary, first time I saw SP and that was the most intense concert experience of my life and I was sober as a judge so I remember it vividly...they may have gone a bit too far fucking with peoples heads on that tour
@@occasionalfeelgood23 ikr yeah i agree with you about not knowing about their new stuff. Too Dark Park was the last of the good Skinny Puppy album the newer stuff just don't have that gritty synth sound that i like So i found a new band called Vomito Negro they've also been around since the 80s and i really like the new stuff they put out. He still uses the older electronics that the newer equipment just can't replicate.
TDP is my personal favorite album from Skinneh Puppeh! Good stuff. Morpheus Laughing is my favorite track haha. Also....the world is indeed a fucked up place. Love the vids dude!
I loved this album. I got a lot of my friends hooked on Skinny Puppy when I was a kid, and this album was a hit amongst my friends. I started listening to SP when I was in grade seven or eight. FYI, the CD of Too Dark Park has a fold out sleeve with lyrics. Oh, and Nature's Revenge was awesome, but I really liked Grave Wisdom, as well. I'm going to have to revisit this album. These reviews are awesome! :)
If I remember correctly, Too Dark Park was the album that was the result of the band nearly falling apart due to infighting that started around the time Al Jourgensen came to work on Rabies and it shows in the content. Like if Last Rights 1992 is a person slowly succumbing to drugs, Too Dark Park is a mental breakdown.
I don't actually own a physical copy, and while I enjoy and respect the album as a whole I only really got into "Spasmolytic" and "Rash Reflection" I still think it's one of their best albums as a single cohesive unit and it has become a tradition to play every Halloween for me.
Wow man. Really cool for you to take the time to do this. I appreciate all you say .I'd type more but my 18 month old doesn't let me type much..keep it up!
I am so checked in for more SP videos, I checked out your Rabies review earlier today. TDP is the first of their albums I ever had. It is still probably my fave although I know everything from Bites thru to The Process. I still check in quite a bit and appreciate a lot of what I hear. I started watching Ken Marshall's channel where he often talks about producing SP tracks. Anyways, new subscriber over here.
I think this is their best work by far. Key talked about the production of this album in an interview and I remember him talking about they had just got a true 64 multi-track system so they spent a lot of time literally filling in all 64 tracks with all these sounds, samples and assorted noise to give it that unique texture. Honestly, if you know of anything else that sounds like this album, I will give it a try.
@@RockyBergen I’ll do my best to post more, I definitely like any excuse to ramble about music I love, ha. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch!
You’re right about the release date. TDP came out on Oct 30th. It’s a phenomenal album. The thing that seems to be missing from your copy is the large foldout from inside, which had lyrics on it, as well as more of that amazing artwork. As for Rabies, mostly what I know is they hated the mastering, feeling it was too tinny. I hope you check out Cleanse, Fold, Manipulate and Mind, TPI some time. Also, would love to hear your take on My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult.
Didn’t Rabies have Dolby mastering optimized for cassette, and not for CD? I believe they later had a remastered version optimized for CD which I’ve never bought, just as I’ve never bought the remastered version of Last Rights with the fifteen second track indexing error corrected.
17:40 Hehe... I know what you are referring to when you say "samples", but in an interview with cEVIN I watched last week he claimed that *everything* on this album is sampled. He even showed how he had spread out a range of insane soundbites over a keyboard and got a genuine Too Dark Park-sound by just playing the keys. This album took quite a bit longer for me to really appreciate than Rabies and VIVI SECT VI, but when the indoctrination was complete I loved it and still do!
Man I left my grad party in 93 and got this with the cash..in ohio it wasn't easy finding this shit between rows of corn. I never noticed the star wars like consumerism until Nin halos....Guilty . With puppy it was like I wonder what they can do with new gear type anticipation every album back then. Cevin still releases a lot of wild vintage stuff on here under Scaremeister and on his patron so you may get that nature's revenge. TDP is one of my " stranded on a desert isle" albums... On a rave note I bought alpha teams speed racer the same day and a pantera... And I too have a huge
Great analysis and review as always. But I think you nailed it regarding Skinny Puppy and Ministry fans. Definitely positive but well aware of societal bs. 🙏🏻 Side note. I think I match that same route you took. I’d get bored or would seek out new music. Metal to alternative/ punk to industrial to techno but going back to the well of SP, Ministry and NIN
Yep, I’m with you. In fact, the vast majority of what I listen to today is techno-inspired stuff. But I feel that experimental music is techno, industrial, or whatever - I just want to hear unique music. Like Ministry, I enjoy a lot of metal as well, but I’m very picky about it. There’s gotta be a high level of musicality to it or else I get bored.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Yeah I noticed with most of the techno or tech house for me has to have an edge to it. Remnants of industrial I suppose. You’re probably familiar and he’s been around since 90’s but are you familiar with Surgeon? (DJ)
@@occasionalfeelgood23 exactly the album I was thinking of. I’ll check it out. I don’t think I’m familiar with. Thank you. And thanks again for the great blogs 🙏🏻
@@twicket5 Thank you for watching! Here is a link to a Vatican Shadow remix that I particularly love. Let me know what you think: ruclips.net/video/jtAmERQUmQU/видео.html
Have you done a vivi sect vi review yet - I adore vx gas attack , it hits so heavily as a beat and psychologically painting a vivid picture of the Iran Iraq conflict in the 80s
Random comment about video of pooping. During the mid- or late-90's there was an art installation in a Chicago gallery which stands out in my memory. The gallery was a repurposed house, and inside there was a large front room, all painted in white. A large tube-style television hung from the ceiling in the middle of the room, with the screen point at the ground, about 4 feet above the floor. To see what was playing on the tv a person had to lean down & look up. It was a long-loop piece of video art record a view from within a toilet bowl as someone lifted the lid, & then taking many different shits. It was actually interesting, being something you don't see. I don't know if there was a special filter on the lens, but you could see the gas or methane as the waste came out. The name of the piece on yhe wall in semi-calligraphic letters & was something like Twice A Day, Every Day.
SP kept the Jourgensen momentum going on Too Dark Park...always felt they layered in that Uncle Al influence since...never felt they veered away from the Ministry attaché...maybe lots of their core fans talked mega shit about it but I always equated the 2 camps as being in perfect simpatico back then. Its kismet, man...and that tour for TDP was like the absolute best fucking show, man...I was blown away by the performance art and horror decor & spooky stage props...Puppy did their best live work back then...and Dwayne Goettel was still with us...he was beautiful up there, man
Be great if you reviewed the Revco live album You Goddang Son of Beech...do the reissue vinyl by Cleopatra...they had the nerve to reissue a seminal live album by ripping it from a skipping vinyl...the last track "No Devotion" skips from start to finish but it's not the reissue, it's the master they remastered it from that skips incessantly...its very bizarre and cleopatra is so tight, they did nothing to reciprocate peeps who spent good scratch on this thing
First time I heard Skinny Puppy it was at my friend's house, his older brother was on his turntable playing freestyle music when he was finished my friend put on Vivi sect vi... I heard some beats and I thought freestyle was still playing until i heard the unholy distorted growls
I'm with you, brother- 1oo, but I do feel compelled to remark that even though I'm 50 & always lived in California, I've never run across anyone with a trust-fund, a 'trustafarian'. It's possible that sightings in the wild are more rare than we've been lead to believe. However, I took your op-ed on the more general way, and I do agree- we should celebrate the art!*. *Even though their is something inherently fetishistic about collecting records- which I celebrate- that'ls not unrelated to those unboxing/gloating YT videos
Yes! The unboxing videos are bizarre to me. People seem to need to justify the money they’re spending with those videos. I like having stuff as much as the next person, but my end game is the art, not the experience of receiving the art.
It's always been my understanding that little to no footage from that era still exists. Hopefully I'm wrong and someone will point me in the right direction.
Holy Toledo, I thought you were the Consequence of Sound guy…is he like your cousin or something…you guys look so alike, lol…anyway his shit brought me to ur awesum vids
@@H-OhmStudios I think you’re right, though - it has become some bizarre elite fetish. Because not only to people just buy records to not listen to, it’s not cheap to buy records anymore. So they go out of their way to spend a lot of time and money to be part of something they don’t necessarily have any passion for. They definitely have a passion for spending money, but I don't think music has anything to do with their goals.
Great album, but like a lot of SP records (and electro-industrial records in general) it has awful cover art. I'm going to disagree on Communion. It's a very oddball movie from before Walken became a superstar.
I'm 48 years right now as of 2022 and in high school in the early 90's I first discovered "Too Dark Park" from Columbia House Music Club. I would always buy my metal punk goth industrial music from the local ma and pa music shop store and this album changed me forever. I got it on cassette then later on CD but this was the first Skinny Puppy I have ever heard and loved it. Then found "Rabies" and I was never the same and then went backwards and just fell in love with Skinny Puppy and I'm still a hardcore fan to this very day. I was also a dj for a small club and it was all great. A+++
I've never missed a skinny puppy's tour since '88 and Too dark park is still my favorite live so far. They are still my favorite band after all those years. The 2004 come back was amazing, The weapon tour was also great...... no band can measure to SP! :)
Still my favorite band and still listening since the 80's. Stopped listening to them after Last Rights. This I think is their best album. I still get the chills listening to them. Great review.
@@rednax3333 it is good! My favorite of their stuff since Last Rights. The song solvent is a great remake. I'd love it if they made an entire album of some of their greatest songs. Thanks.
Damn, I too regret selling my Techs.... had to pay rent some how. First saw them live from Too Dark Park and damn! I fucking loved that show!!!! Just the whole show was fucking bad ass! I do miss djing also but no damn computers; just two decks and a mixer w/ a monitor and just make a mix for the fuck of it.
Dude, definitely check out their 2013 album “Weapon”! It’s for reals a classic. Guarantee you’ll dig it. 👌❤️ oh dang, and fantastic vinyl you’ve got displayed on your couch 🛋 bud! Did you catch their tour before the quarantine? They were wonderful!!
It's so funny...you have this aura of a stand-up comedian...do you dabble with stuff like that...maybe you should, man...ur like so nature with talking and engaging an audience...ur voice is so inviting and easy to listen to...you make mundane stuff sound interesting and that my friend is a fucking gift
I was ten years old when my brother showed me this album (in 1990). I have been a die hard Skinny Puppy fan ever since. Been really enjoying your album reviews. Are you a Frontline Assembly fan by chance?
My favorite tracks are actually "Grave Wisdom" and "Morpheus Laughing". Never see those tracks get any love. The whole album is dope from beginning to end though.
Very good video. I really appreciate your enthusiasm and skinny puppy was the band that I discovered in 92 when I was about 13. Question though what wire album is that on your couch?
i know too dark park is a fan favorite, yet i think last rights is the masterpiece: danceable hard electro with a very organic dark atmosphere; the song download encapsilates the whole with the hard experimental syths combined with animal growling and samples
Live shows were legendary! *Speaking from experience, attended in S.F. for the Vivisect and Too Dark Park. tour. First one was VERY messy, 2nd was solid dry-ice fog wall
For sure! Nowhere near the level of my love of Skinny Puppy, but I definitely dig Bill Leeb. I saw them live a few times, really good shows. "Caustic Grip" is my favorite, and I saw them on that tour.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 It was my first experience with SP and I felt it was one of the most powerful and moving albums that I've come across - like an industrial Pink Floyd. I remember the day I bought the used CD and played it for the first time on a stereo I shared with a college roommate. After the first minute or so, he (a music history major) asked "Is the CD broken?" and I replied "I'm... not... sure..." but after listening to the rest, I was hooked. I later ran across Too Dark Park. It crossed the line into something that was too noisy for me (like later Autechre), but I enjoyed your review of it.
@@stevedekorte I agree about later Autechre, I’ve never really enjoyed it. However, their most recent stuff is starting to get good again. Nothing will ever touch the brilliance of early Autechre in my opinion.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 That's good to hear. I'll check out their newer work. I went to one of Autechre's shows some years ago in SF and missed almost the entire show hanging out in the lounge because it sounded so different than what I was used to that I assumed it was an opening act. Btw, I'd be interested to hear your review of Cabaret Voltaire.
You must be thinking of the Too Dark Park tour that you saw. There was no tour for Rabies because Ogre decided to tour with Ministry that year instead. The Mind/In Case You Didn’t Feel Like Showing Up tour.
Funny how you say it's short on samples… nearly the entire thing is made from samples, radio especially. But I know what you mean, samples in the sense of short voice accents.
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"Are we celebrating music, or are we celebrating consumerism?" - well-said pushback on people who don't have much to say about music but love flaunting their pocketbooks. Thanks for sharing your genuine and insightful love of music with us. A fantastic personal analysis of this Too Dark Park !!!
Thanks! I agree, and what's even more sad to me are other people celebrating the pocketbook flaunting. I guess that's the tough reality.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Sad people love living in sad little echo chambers.
its sad when album reviewers who review albums before there time and call timeless albums like vivi sect vi outdated.. they just dont know its cultural significance
instead of asking me if i have a shirt or what specific second of what song on an album was my favorite they need to check their able-bodied privilege to freely consume material lmao and seemingly without a cost in the world at that. yet they'll still solicit your donations, no problem. someone that's literally buying into it to look like a fan is in essence putting their money where their mouth and ass are, and a poser isn't a friend of mine. couldn't even entertain the prospect of being friends with some of the people i see online because they regularly tell minors as well as the q-eer and disabled to d-e if they so much as disagree with some delusional standpoint made from a pedestal
I took a date on a night hike a few days ago, it was already really dark, we could barely see where we were going, she asked me "what kind of park is this?" I said "A too dark park".. and smirked... you better believe I was proud of myself
Haha, that’s awesome. The question is, what did she say in return?
Unfortunately, the two tours that really needed to be documented weren't. Too dark park and last rights both had amazing stage shows and are considered peak live puppy..sadly only rough quality bootlegs exist
Saw both. Both were great.
And sir we are here for it....so thank you. It's not a rant it's respect. This one took me a damn minute....but I really really really appreciated the album.
I still get a bit reminiscent in parks that are too dark, like.all aggressively chainsmokey and weepy. Good times.
Thanks, Amanda! I think most Skinny Puppy albums take getting used to in their own way, but the best and deepest albums tend to grow on us. The way it should be!
One of my all time favorite albums! ❤ ❤ ❤
too dark park is one of the best 90's albums. its their perfect album, i listen to it start to finish.
good review yet again and i agree with you on the whole hipster record collector stuff. they are the tools that have driven up the price on records. i got a copy of mind tpi for 6 bucks in the early 2000's thats how it should be. too dark park on vinyl is like 300 bucks now on the resale market thanks to this crap.
@@RasMix1 Oh wow, 300 bucks?? Jesus. I guess that's a statement to the album's greatness, but that's pretty crazy. I do get very annoyed with people focusing on the wrong things, then other people celebrating those people who focus on the wrong things. I'm just intensely bored with this money worship shit. It's truly deflating.
the album came out October 30th 1990.
@@RasMix1 Yes! That sounds totally right. Damn, time flies.
Last Rights is an excellent album. Ministry Filth Pig album way underrated in my opinion and it's one of those albums I return to frequently. Maybe you could review it sometime.
When COVID hit, I definitely thought of "Nature's Revenge" came to mind like you said. "Spasmylotic" is strong too.
Yep, very prophetic song. A sensitive, yet angry, soliloquy on humanity!
Shore Lined Poison is great as well. When Covid hit RECLAMATION was theme.
Aside from "Remission", "Bites", and "Back & Forth vol 2" which were my introduction to SP, "Too Dark Park" is pinnacle.
everything during their first run, leading up to dwayne's death, is pinnacle.
TDP and VIVIsect VI are tied for best
Thank You Mr. Feelgood, from a fellow SP lover who came of age around the same time! Would love to see a show with you and Cevin exchanging your points of view with each other on how the music affected you both when it came out.
Man, that would be awesome! I wonder if he'd be up for such a thing...
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Lately Cevin has been trying his hand doing interviews with folks he has worked with, like this one with Frontline Assembly ruclips.net/video/P0Q8Xq8-CW0/видео.html. He's always been pretty quiet about his work, leaving it up to listener interpretation I think. But I imagine a format where you have the artist describing something about what was happening in their life when they produced an album. Then juxtaposed with that, you have a listener describing something from their own experiences when listening to the album.
That Spasmolytic 12" was my introduction to Skinny Puppy about 6 years ago when I was 13 and I was fucking mind blown. The record was my mom's which was probably my uncle's before hers. I'm thankful to have a cool family that got me into one of the greatest bands of all time
Skinny puppy changed my life forever! 👊✔️
A few things, the opening sounds in Convulsion are also samples from Communion, and the lyrics are clearly printed in both the CD and cassette versions I got in the 90's.
Found TDP only a few years ago when I was about 19 and it hit me way harder than other SP albums. I agree it somehow feels less aggressive but I would still describe it as frantic and creepy in a way at times, but not quite as dark and nightmarish as Last Rights or Cleanse Fold Manipulate. Or maybe that interpretation of frantic energy is purely from the state of mind I was in when I found it. Like hearing my restlessness in the form of audio, it's comforting to me because I felt it matched my wavelength. It has a surreal feeling to me that I love so much. I love SP but I find a lot of their music is too straight forward for me. But with TDP starting off with Convulsions... Just fucking awesome. Tormentor was my favorite song on the album for a while but Shore Lined Poison and Rash Reflection really creeped up on me and took over I would say. I didn't like Nature's Revenge at first but it really is a nice song. Lately I find myself listening to Last Rights more though, and that is kinda the last album by them that I really listen to. And I don't know why but I really can't seem to get into Rabies... I like Rodent and Worlock but they are kinda low on my list of SP songs
“Are we promoting music or consumerism”, man if Oge or CK saw this video it would bring a tear to their eyes. I have seen that guys videos and you forgot to mention that he probably has a pair of those rubber testicles hanging from his truck lol.
Another great video, and yes, can you please do a video on Ministry’s “Mind” album.
Thanks, man! That means a lot. And yes, I’m moving toward some Ministry videos, I just need the time. Respect!
T.F.W.O., Morpheus Laughing, and Reclamation ending the album are hardly "trickling out". Morpheus Laughing might be the best song on the album in my humble estimations. To each their own. Still one of the greatest albums of all time.
I never claim to know what I’m talking about, ha. Thanks for watching!
I have a vinyl collection 9 of them are puppy albums. It's about 50 to 60 all together give or take different albums. Every single album I got, moved me in some way or another. All made my hair stand up so to speak. I totally get your rank, why did you buy if your soul didn't need it to function. So yeah anyways that album your holding is my next goal. Too dark park melted my 12 year old brain. Best advice is as loud as you can take it and in head phones. So you can hear it swirling around in your skull and your brain breaking down each sound and download from movies. It's a work of art and was a game changer for industrial music! That album made me want to put them on my skin and go to every tour I could go to since 1992' I hope your going this round. 40 years, final tour as skinny puppy! See you line with the rest of us!!! Love how you explain vinyl love too! I got it for Christmas. Had it in headphones. And was gone!!! I hope that vortex never leaves my soul!
100% agree -- at this point I'm on board for life. And I'm seeing them in May!
There was a CD store in my neighborhood where you could preview CDs on headphones. I had the clerk cue up Too Dark Park, maximum gain on the headphones, and I pressed play… track one… Convulsions.
I’ve never been a fan of death metal, but anything anyone could ever hope to get from death metal I got times ten for the next three minutes.
And if you notice, the "Dub" version of Natures Revenge has deeper bass and drums in the mix.
And yes, Too Dark Park can be pricey on vinyl for the OG pressing.
Hell yea! Great stuff once again. The rant on consumerism is definitely on point. Its one of the major downfalls to all the great technology we have, but my fear is, it's only going to get worse with time and the introduction of NFTs and Blockchain Technology infiltrating the art world and music.
Too Dark Park has a special place in my life also, trying to understand the world around me when I was 18 and listening to these tracks was an otherworldly experience. Agreed Nature's Revenge is hands down one of there all time greats and masterpieces, keep up the great work!!
Thanks, man! I try to not get sucked down the rabbit hole too much, but I can't stand it when I see this bizarre money-worship going on, ya know? People ignore and don't comment on it, and that's weird and dangerous, too. Especially when it comes to a SP discussion who are inherently against all those types of things. Yeah, "Nature's Revenge" is a really brilliant piece of work. One of their masterpieces for sure!
My First SP album I listened too.... FUCKING AMAZING
I love just about every album they've ever made. There's a few I'm not ecstatic about but this one is the best. I really love their newer albums Mythmaker and Weapon but holy shit, you cannot beat Too Dark Park. You're not kidding. An amazing album with a flawless Side 1. These guys, along with Thrill Kill Kult and Lords of Acid, were a huge inspiration for me as a musician. Wildly creative, excellent sampling and just plain strange as hell. Pure brilliance.
Masterpiece, listened again for the anniversary, first time I saw SP and that was the most intense concert experience of my life and I was sober as a judge so I remember it vividly...they may have gone a bit too far fucking with peoples heads on that tour
This Album is something uniquely special.
Skinny Puppy could easily kraft another album with messages about these current events in lullaby land.
Oh yeah, there’s no shortage of inspiration these days.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 ikr yeah i agree with you about not knowing about their new stuff. Too Dark Park was the last of the good Skinny Puppy album the newer stuff just don't have that gritty synth sound that i like So i found a new band called Vomito Negro they've also been around since the 80s and i really like the new stuff they put out. He still uses the older electronics that the newer equipment just can't replicate.
TDP is my personal favorite album from Skinneh Puppeh! Good stuff. Morpheus Laughing is my favorite track haha.
Also....the world is indeed a fucked up place. Love the vids dude!
Thanks a lot!
I loved this album. I got a lot of my friends hooked on Skinny Puppy when I was a kid, and this album was a hit amongst my friends. I started listening to SP when I was in grade seven or eight.
FYI, the CD of Too Dark Park has a fold out sleeve with lyrics. Oh, and Nature's Revenge was awesome, but I really liked Grave Wisdom, as well. I'm going to have to revisit this album.
These reviews are awesome! :)
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
If I remember correctly, Too Dark Park was the album that was the result of the band nearly falling apart due to infighting that started around the time Al Jourgensen came to work on Rabies and it shows in the content.
Like if Last Rights 1992 is a person slowly succumbing to drugs, Too Dark Park is a mental breakdown.
I don't actually own a physical copy, and while I enjoy and respect the album as a whole I only really got into "Spasmolytic" and "Rash Reflection" I still think it's one of their best albums as a single cohesive unit and it has become a tradition to play every Halloween for me.
Absolutely, it’s a Halloween staple for sure.
Wow man. Really cool for you to take the time to do this. I appreciate all you say .I'd type more but my 18 month old doesn't let me type much..keep it up!
That being said I do feel as if you ramble on too long about non music things.
Thanks, man! Really appreciate it. I’m never sure if I should do these or not, but support from peeps like yourself make it all worth it!
@@occasionalfeelgood23 please keep doing it. I am glad you say most ov the things you do!
We probably would get along in real life. Instead I am surrounded by colonized bigots.
@@shedskin8 Uh oh, where are you from?
Still the greatest live concert I have even seen. Too dark park tour was amazing. Visual sound and performance was all amazing
Some Skinny Puppy songs sound truly evil and insane. Not many bands can actually do that.
like a musical spirit box. exactly the way it should be too
I'd rank Grave Wisdom with the first 6, and love the sick pun in the song title, but otherwise I'd definitely concur that it peters out after that.
I agree, the track is a definite B-side type of the track, but the more Puppy tracks the better.
I am so checked in for more SP videos, I checked out your Rabies review earlier today. TDP is the first of their albums I ever had. It is still probably my fave although I know everything from Bites thru to The Process. I still check in quite a bit and appreciate a lot of what I hear. I started watching Ken Marshall's channel where he often talks about producing SP tracks. Anyways, new subscriber over here.
I think this is their best work by far. Key talked about the production of this album in an interview and I remember him talking about they had just got a true 64 multi-track system so they spent a lot of time literally filling in all 64 tracks with all these sounds, samples and assorted noise to give it that unique texture. Honestly, if you know of anything else that sounds like this album, I will give it a try.
Thanks, Rocky!
@@RockyBergen I’ll do my best to post more, I definitely like any excuse to ramble about music I love, ha. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Morpheus Laughing
You’re right about the release date. TDP came out on Oct 30th. It’s a phenomenal album. The thing that seems to be missing from your copy is the large foldout from inside, which had lyrics on it, as well as more of that amazing artwork. As for Rabies, mostly what I know is they hated the mastering, feeling it was too tinny. I hope you check out Cleanse, Fold, Manipulate and Mind, TPI some time. Also, would love to hear your take on My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult.
Didn’t Rabies have Dolby mastering optimized for cassette, and not for CD? I believe they later had a remastered version optimized for CD which I’ve never bought, just as I’ve never bought the remastered version of Last Rights with the fifteen second track indexing error corrected.
17:40 Hehe... I know what you are referring to when you say "samples", but in an interview with cEVIN I watched last week he claimed that *everything* on this album is sampled. He even showed how he had spread out a range of insane soundbites over a keyboard and got a genuine Too Dark Park-sound by just playing the keys. This album took quite a bit longer for me to really appreciate than Rabies and VIVI SECT VI, but when the indoctrination was complete I loved it and still do!
You should do one on Front line Assembly. You know the early stuff Caustic Grip album and the ones before it. That would be cool.
Man I left my grad party in 93 and got this with the cash..in ohio it wasn't easy finding this shit between rows of corn.
I never noticed the star wars like consumerism until Nin halos....Guilty .
With puppy it was like I wonder what they can do with new gear type anticipation every album back then.
Cevin still releases a lot of wild vintage stuff on here under Scaremeister and on his patron so you may get that nature's revenge.
TDP is one of my " stranded on a desert isle" albums...
On a rave note I bought alpha teams speed racer the same day and a pantera...
And I too have a huge
Great analysis and review as always. But I think you nailed it regarding Skinny Puppy and Ministry fans. Definitely positive but well aware of societal bs. 🙏🏻
Side note. I think I match that same route you took. I’d get bored or would seek out new music. Metal to alternative/ punk to industrial to techno but going back to the well of SP, Ministry and NIN
Yep, I’m with you. In fact, the vast majority of what I listen to today is techno-inspired stuff. But I feel that experimental music is techno, industrial, or whatever - I just want to hear unique music. Like Ministry, I enjoy a lot of metal as well, but I’m very picky about it. There’s gotta be a high level of musicality to it or else I get bored.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Yeah I noticed with most of the techno or tech house for me has to have an edge to it. Remnants of industrial I suppose. You’re probably familiar and he’s been around since 90’s but are you familiar with Surgeon? (DJ)
@@twicket5 oh yeah, definitely know Surgeon. I like his “basictonalvocabulary” album. You should check out Vatican Shadow if you’re not familiar.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 exactly the album I was thinking of. I’ll check it out. I don’t think I’m familiar with. Thank you. And thanks again for the great blogs 🙏🏻
@@twicket5 Thank you for watching! Here is a link to a Vatican Shadow remix that I particularly love. Let me know what you think: ruclips.net/video/jtAmERQUmQU/видео.html
Love SKINNY PUPPY 🐶!!THANK YOU. GROSSLY OVERLOOKED BAND. SUBSCRIBED.
Thanks!
Have you done a vivi sect vi review yet - I adore vx gas attack , it hits so heavily as a beat and psychologically painting a vivid picture of the Iran Iraq conflict in the 80s
Random comment about video of pooping. During the mid- or late-90's there was an art installation in a Chicago gallery which stands out in my memory. The gallery was a repurposed house, and inside there was a large front room, all painted in white. A large tube-style television hung from the ceiling in the middle of the room, with the screen point at the ground, about 4 feet above the floor. To see what was playing on the tv a person had to lean down & look up. It was a long-loop piece of video art record a view from within a toilet bowl as someone lifted the lid, & then taking many different shits. It was actually interesting, being something you don't see. I don't know if there was a special filter on the lens, but you could see the gas or methane as the waste came out. The name of the piece on yhe wall in semi-calligraphic letters & was something like Twice A Day, Every Day.
SP kept the Jourgensen momentum going on Too Dark Park...always felt they layered in that Uncle Al influence since...never felt they veered away from the Ministry attaché...maybe lots of their core fans talked mega shit about it but I always equated the 2 camps as being in perfect simpatico back then. Its kismet, man...and that tour for TDP was like the absolute best fucking show, man...I was blown away by the performance art and horror decor & spooky stage props...Puppy did their best live work back then...and Dwayne Goettel was still with us...he was beautiful up there, man
TDP was an intentional deviation away from the Uncle Al sound on Rabies so not sure I agree
Be great if you reviewed the Revco live album You Goddang Son of Beech...do the reissue vinyl by Cleopatra...they had the nerve to reissue a seminal live album by ripping it from a skipping vinyl...the last track "No Devotion" skips from start to finish but it's not the reissue, it's the master they remastered it from that skips incessantly...its very bizarre and cleopatra is so tight, they did nothing to reciprocate peeps who spent good scratch on this thing
First time I heard Skinny Puppy it was at my friend's house, his older brother was on his turntable playing freestyle music when he was finished my friend put on Vivi sect vi... I heard some beats and I thought freestyle was still playing until i heard the unholy distorted growls
I commented already but I also wanted to add, the micro penis rant was awesome!! 😂
Keep those rants and reviews coming!
Haha, thanks. I can do that kind of shit all day!
Glad I found you! Thank you for this 👍🏼
I'm with you, brother- 1oo, but I do feel compelled to remark that even though I'm 50 & always lived in California, I've never run across anyone with a trust-fund, a 'trustafarian'. It's possible that sightings in the wild are more rare than we've been lead to believe. However, I took your op-ed on the more general way, and I do agree- we should celebrate the art!*.
*Even though their is something inherently fetishistic about collecting records- which I celebrate- that'ls not unrelated to those unboxing/gloating YT videos
Yes! The unboxing videos are bizarre to me. People seem to need to justify the money they’re spending with those videos. I like having stuff as much as the next person, but my end game is the art, not the experience of receiving the art.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 I think some people buy the stuff with the income they earn from making videos about the stuff they bought.
@@shannonm.townsend1232 😂
U and I think alike. 🤣 guess that’s why we both like skinny puppy. A band that nobody understands.
Another great video for the legends! Thanks!
Thanks!
Jim Cummins did the artwork - as opposed to Steven Gilmore
Have you listened to any ohGr albums?
cEvin Key mostly was exhausted making music just for Oghr's story
Keep me posted if you ever do open mics or podcast...I like to extend my support and can even travel long distances if necessary...peace bruh 🦾
It's always been my understanding that little to no footage from that era still exists. Hopefully I'm wrong and someone will point me in the right direction.
Ur right...tormentor is a gorgeous 12" single better than the original 🎯
I did the makeup on spasmolytic
my name is TimGore I did the monster fx on too dark park and last rights
Good ass album
Holy Toledo, I thought you were the Consequence of Sound guy…is he like your cousin or something…you guys look so alike, lol…anyway his shit brought me to ur awesum vids
More Skinny Puppy, please.
@ 6:30 - Poison Idea said it best "record collectors are pretentious assholes" - and RUclipsr record collectors are twice as bad.
I call them “money celebrators” not “record collectors”. They’re painfully easy to spot.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 Vinyl Consumer Fetishists? - although that's both pretentious and dignifies them more than they deserve.
@@H-OhmStudios I think you’re right, though - it has become some bizarre elite fetish. Because not only to people just buy records to not listen to, it’s not cheap to buy records anymore. So they go out of their way to spend a lot of time and money to be part of something they don’t necessarily have any passion for. They definitely have a passion for spending money, but I don't think music has anything to do with their goals.
🤘✅👍
The beginning of their psychedelic phase.
Great album, but like a lot of SP records (and electro-industrial records in general) it has awful cover art. I'm going to disagree on Communion. It's a very oddball movie from before Walken became a superstar.
What the fuck are you talking about? The cover art by I, Braineater is awesome with all the weird, cool monsters. You're just lame.
I'm 48 years right now as of 2022 and in high school in the early 90's I first discovered "Too Dark Park" from Columbia House Music Club. I would always buy my metal punk goth industrial music from the local ma and pa music shop store and this album changed me forever. I got it on cassette then later on CD but this was the first Skinny Puppy I have ever heard and loved it. Then found "Rabies" and I was never the same and then went backwards and just fell in love with Skinny Puppy and I'm still a hardcore fan to this very day. I was also a dj for a small club and it was all great. A+++
I've never missed a skinny puppy's tour since '88 and Too dark park is still my favorite live so far. They are still my favorite band after all those years. The 2004 come back was amazing, The weapon tour was also great...... no band can measure to SP! :)
Yeah it's an awesome cover. I have a large chunk of it tattooed on my arm. Life changing album. Great video, btw.
Favorite overall Skinny Puppy album and best live show I've ever seen hands down. Tormentor is my favorite all time song.
Still my favorite band and still listening since the 80's. Stopped listening to them after Last Rights. This I think is their best album. I still get the chills listening to them. Great review.
Check out “Weapon”- it’s excellent! Top form S.P. 👌
@@rednax3333 it is good! My favorite of their stuff since Last Rights. The song solvent is a great remake. I'd love it if they made an entire album of some of their greatest songs. Thanks.
Too bad you don't listen to the newer stuff. The Greater Wrong of the Right is great. Also, ohGr.
tGWotR is pretty mediocre IMO. Weapon is good not great. Agree with Peter that most of the newer stuff is kinda dull.
Damn, I too regret selling my Techs.... had to pay rent some how. First saw them live from Too Dark Park and damn! I fucking loved that show!!!! Just the whole show was fucking bad ass! I do miss djing also but no damn computers; just two decks and a mixer w/ a monitor and just make a mix for the fuck of it.
Dude, definitely check out their 2013 album “Weapon”! It’s for reals a classic. Guarantee you’ll dig it. 👌❤️
oh dang, and fantastic vinyl you’ve got displayed on your couch 🛋 bud! Did you catch their tour before the quarantine?
They were wonderful!!
It's so funny...you have this aura of a stand-up comedian...do you dabble with stuff like that...maybe you should, man...ur like so nature with talking and engaging an audience...ur voice is so inviting and easy to listen to...you make mundane stuff sound interesting and that my friend is a fucking gift
I was ten years old when my brother showed me this album (in 1990). I have been a die hard Skinny Puppy fan ever since.
Been really enjoying your album reviews. Are you a Frontline Assembly fan by chance?
I am! I’m going to be doing a video on them soon.
The reissues are very poor quality and never involved the band at all
Yeah it’s a bummer
There was no Rabies tour for Puppy. After Vivi tour was the TDP tour
My favorite tracks are actually "Grave Wisdom" and "Morpheus Laughing". Never see those tracks get any love. The whole album is dope from beginning to end though.
As a Skinny Puppy fan and a fan of electronic music for almost 30 years thanks for these. I really enjoy them.
So happy to do these, and so appreciative that you spend the time to watch. Thank you!
@@occasionalfeelgood23 , my pleasure I may do some myself over the Summer when I have time. I let you know.
I know exactly who you’re talking about 🤣
Ha, I'm glad someone does!
this was my frist skinny puppy lp love it ty ..ps. we need bands like skinny puppy thay have alot to saie. sory my spilling is bad.....
Very good video. I really appreciate your enthusiasm and skinny puppy was the band that I discovered in 92 when I was about 13. Question though what wire album is that on your couch?
Thanks! That’s “PF456”, which is basically a remastered deluxe edition of their album “Send”. I highly recommend it!
i know too dark park is a fan favorite, yet i think last rights is the masterpiece: danceable hard electro with a very organic dark atmosphere; the song download encapsilates the whole with the hard experimental syths combined with animal growling and samples
It’s tough choosing a favorite. My favorites change, too. Most days Rabies is my fave, but other days it might be “TDP” or even “VVVI” or whatever.
awesome! keep it going with the SP reviews.
Great choice to go with Ministry reviews.
I feel in the same frequency with your comments.
Thanks!
Wow I don't know how I got here but I looked this music up and it's like heavy metal or something. That music is scary
That's great you checked them out, though. They're not for everyone to be sure. Take care!
Live shows were legendary! *Speaking from experience, attended in S.F. for the Vivisect and Too Dark Park. tour. First one was VERY messy, 2nd was solid dry-ice fog wall
At The Warfield? Saw SP in SF too but can’t remember which tour. I know I saw Last Rights in Hollywood so thinking it must’ve been TDP in SF.
Hearing you talking about this album makes me want to revisit it! And that rant was fuckin hilarious
P.S. You are correct the release date was 10/30/90!
I have such a vivid memory of this date, haha. Thanks for clarifying!
Great video, Man. Keep it up.
Thanks!
Are you a Front Line Assembly fan?
For sure! Nowhere near the level of my love of Skinny Puppy, but I definitely dig Bill Leeb. I saw them live a few times, really good shows. "Caustic Grip" is my favorite, and I saw them on that tour.
Have you heard their concert album Ain’t it Dead Yet?
I have indeed, I like it a lot. How about yourself?
@@occasionalfeelgood23 It was my first experience with SP and I felt it was one of the most powerful and moving albums that I've come across - like an industrial Pink Floyd. I remember the day I bought the used CD and played it for the first time on a stereo I shared with a college roommate. After the first minute or so, he (a music history major) asked "Is the CD broken?" and I replied "I'm... not... sure..." but after listening to the rest, I was hooked. I later ran across Too Dark Park. It crossed the line into something that was too noisy for me (like later Autechre), but I enjoyed your review of it.
@@stevedekorte I agree about later Autechre, I’ve never really enjoyed it. However, their most recent stuff is starting to get good again. Nothing will ever touch the brilliance of early Autechre in my opinion.
@@occasionalfeelgood23 That's good to hear. I'll check out their newer work. I went to one of Autechre's shows some years ago in SF and missed almost the entire show hanging out in the lounge because it sounded so different than what I was used to that I assumed it was an opening act. Btw, I'd be interested to hear your review of Cabaret Voltaire.
My Trifecta of FAVd Puppy Records: Rabies, Too Dark Park, Mind The Perpetual Intercourse.
You must be thinking of the Too Dark Park tour that you saw. There was no tour for Rabies because Ogre decided to tour with Ministry that year instead. The Mind/In Case You Didn’t Feel Like Showing Up tour.
Yes, I've been corrected many times already on this. Thanks for watching.
Their are sampled guitars on TDP…it sounds heavy as fuck…like the Rabies thing stayed with them
My favorite music to listen to while taking acid back in the early 90's ...
Funny how you say it's short on samples… nearly the entire thing is made from samples, radio especially. But I know what you mean, samples in the sense of short voice accents.
Yeah, I meant vocal samples, I could have been more clear about that.
You are quite humorous. Great videos. I think it was a Hallows Eve release.
Excellent post. I don't find a lot of people that share similar tastes across genres like you do. Keep em coming