How Do ESTPs Compare To ESFPs? | ESFP vs ESTP | CS Joseph
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- How do ESTPs compare to ESFPs? CS Joseph discusses ESTP vs ESFP.
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As an ESTP I can’t relate much to ESFPs. From my experience they tend to not take work seriously. I’ve struggled alot having ESFP in my uni or school projects. At work same thing. However after work i have a great time with them. I enjoy their company, as long as they aren’t my work partners.
ESTP baby! You’re real good dog! I have a hard time in connecting with my younger siblings as I always try to pry at them and make them stronger. It has taken a very long time to withdraw and lax on my constant test that I throw at them. I have learned to take a more mentor role in helping them.
What happens if your the youngest sibling like me? It’s hard to mentor those older hahaha
I'm ISTP; but I can totally relate to the ESTP when it comes to, "Truth vs Lies or Faulsehood", as opposed to, "Good vs Bad or Evil" paradign. Because yep, "Anything can be 'Good' and anything can be 'Bad' -- it just depends what you DO with it -- but Truth is inexcusable and undeniable . . . Trust = Trust.
i've literally never seen anyone who explains estps better
I've always tested ESTP, but recently realized how much I also relate to ESFP qualities. I definitely have a very logical mind, but I also definitely live and die by my moral compass. I'm told I'm cocky by family and can be selfish. I see weakness and do love to help/fix people. I have my wolf pack followers. I am 100% harsh and criticize to face to help people. I also want to always appear competent.
One thing about Ne demon - I believe that’s why ESxPs are accused of being selfish or whatever. My whole family accused me of being selfish when I was 13 and came back from a school trip abroad without any gifts/souvenirs in my bags. Like how would younger me know what they all wanted? I’m still extremely bad at gifts to this day ha. People confuse it with low empathy which couldn’t be further from the truth.
With Ni inferior I can only help someone 1 on 1. Maybe. Possibly. On a good day when stars and planets are aligned and they’re talking about something I have figured out already. However - what the group wants? Dude I gave up long ago. When me and my friends are out I don’t even suggest anything anymore I just follow whoever is the ENFP. When me and my friends used to make it to the club and alcohol would kick in I would *always* disappear from the group and then come back in randomly to drink for a bit but if/when I run into girls, forget about friends. Like I’ve tried the whole bro’s before everything but well, I don’t understand what it is that the group of bro’s want and I’m totally oblivious to it.
At least that makes me understand other demons in other people. Damn it sucks.
So what's your type then? At least what you thought your type was back then when you writing this comment, estp or esfp? Because I am a lot like you
MOM: Why are you such a failure?
ME: Chase told me that I need to seek failure!!!
lol
i loved this haha
@@CSJoseph I finally have answers now! Lol
S0ULxDECiPHER def esfp use your own mind
Rizzo and Kenickie from Grease and Stephanie and Johnny from Grease 2 are perfect examples of ESTPs. Jan from Grease and Paulette from Grease 2 are perfect examples of ESFPS.
I thought Danny from Grease is an ESTP but realized he is an ENFP when he said ”This car could be systematic, hydromatic. Why it could be Grease Lightning."
ESTP = arrogant
ESFP = selfish
What if I’m both?
rewatching this in preparation for today's meeting... one of my all-time favorites! 💫
I love it man!! Great stuff, brotha. I'm an esfp and I think you can help me a lot; especially to develop that intj subconscience: competence!! If you know any books, vids, or any content that can help me in the long-run.. I would appreciate it a lot! Thanks
Start learning about self directed learning. I think one is on Amazon called the art of self directed learning. From there, Starr searching random things on wikipedia for an hour and see where it takes you as you bounce more and more between related concepts. Watch RUclips playlists and videos about topics you're interested in, then search amazon for books about that interest. Then look for communities and groups on facebook or wherever based around those interests.
Sis on you Chase! ENTP vs ENFP was way way way earlier requested..... It better be the next video.... I'm watching you! 👀
I'd like to see this too.
very soon :)
ESFP prefer movie spoilers cuz we think it helps more understanding movies. We dont like to watch the same movies several times. Once is enough or just two times. I know thats very weird cuz most people hate spoilers. ESFP - want having fun constantly.
ESTP - want more making money.
ESFP and if i love the tv show or the serie i do tend to rewatch it several times. Like i just finished Game of thrones and i’m planning to rewatch it i do tend to give myself tv serie spoilers since i am too impatient to wait to see what happens and i want to know it when i want to know it
ESTP and aren't at all about making money. It's all about fun for me. Living in moment to the fullest.
ENTJs are often mistaken for ESTP. Like a certain orange president.
ENTJs care about money and status.
ESTJs too.
ESTPs only care about the freedom money gives them to explore and make their dream experiences come true. I'd argue ESFPs with their Te child are actually much more likely to want money and fame for the status and reputation than ESTPs.
ESFPs are deeply hurt when they have low status and people think they are unworthy of respect. ESTPs are deeply hurt when people think they're a bad person and nobody wants to be around them cos they make others feel bad
Omg, I worry about not having experience! Ugh. Wtf.
Thank you! I finally typed my cousin correctly - ESFP. I am an ENFJ and oddly enough we are best friends 🤷🏽♂️😂
nothing odd there. You wouldn't have a good romance but that's good friendship compatibility.
@@CSJoseph thanks for the input, does it have something to do with both types having Se in different orders of the stack?
You're awesome with these videos!
Damn this video helped me type 2 of my family members when I had them switched up before
Wow that thumbnail… so indirectly direct xD Genius 😂
Hey CS Joseph, count one (1) request: for you to do your next 'attitude of' to be on the 8th (deonic) function!
ill do the 7th next.
1. Who is the nicest and helpful in terms of others getting stuck in a problem?
2. Are they both good at persuasion (who’s the best at it)?
3. If an ESXP is a programmer and using the (good/bad approach) when dealing with people but (if-then approach) when working on a project, then is he a Fi or Ti user (in other words an ESTP or an ESFP)?
LOVE THIS GUY
Thanks for this video, thorough and deep insights.
Would you say that ESTPs have to fail and fail in relationships until they build up enough wisdom to succeed? Is there no harm reduction?
Can ESTPs be laid back in more day-to-day life? I'm trying to type my SO and I'm doubting between (mature) ESTP or ESFP.
very informative! thanks CS joseph
ESFP are selfish, ESTP are arrogant. What if I am accused of being controlling? 🙁
Give them freedom of choice
Video is long, but it’s good enough. -ESTP
My friend thinks she is an ESTP but I think she is definitely an ESFP it’s so annoying lol
Attitude of trickster!!! Been waiting !!
Love the comparisons!
What is the response of an ESFP and an ESTP when someone they love is being bullied?
Rage
C.S. Joseph how about ISFP?
Peri Ani with the developed subconscious let's goooooo
Im ESFP, I was thinking that I was ESTP but I’m not, thanks 💕
Been diagnosed as an ENTP by the 16Personalities test for eleven years.
After these videos I'm 100% convinced Im either ENTP, ESTP or ESFP. Probably ESFP to be real.
Also, Fi is super interesting.
I believe this is why unhealthy ESFPs test as ExTJs. I’ve read on a Se-Te loop causing confusion with ENTJs specifically. I’ve been told many times I have no empathy and I even believed it and tested as ExTJs many times, even tho that was weird to me. I know very well if I’m doing good or bad. I can make others love me or hate me within a sec. It’s not like Fi inferior trying hard, participating to some charity event on weekends or whatever makes them feel better about whipping their employees 60 hours a week and wondering whether they’re good or bad. When in reality everybody’s shrugging them off as psychopaths.
Unhealthy ESFPs know very well how others feel, combined with Se, it can’t be stopped. It’s like being in the matrix. Therefore if Fi is repressed because of XYZ plan, they’ll be viciously manipulative and go get what’s theirs and tell everyone else “just get over your feels”. Unhealthy ESFPs know they’re bad, they just decide to suppress it - Very high backfiring potential, losing all your friends etc.
Whereas Fi tricksters are amusing in that department - they commit the worst crimes but because they’re praying to their God every night before bed then they’re clean. Like yeah ok nice try ExTPs, that’s definitely how it works, especially with Ne demon lol.
And a prime example of a suppressed-Fi ESFP trying to screw over a laughable-Fi ESTP is Neymar’s “rape” victim last summer. As a fellow ESFP, it was funny to watch what she was trying. Poor guy, if only wearing gold crosses and praying Jesus after scoring a goal admonished him of his sins
I luuuv Ti parent :)
Looks like Chase is already getting at it on Destroy Dick December
The grossest. If I were CS having to read all these comments I'd wanna gauge my eyes out 😆
I'm glad that you gave a shout out to Peri Ani. However, Peri Ani is a female. She stated such on an earlier video in the comments section.
When did I say I was a female? I'm a guy
@@freezeblaster15 Apologies in that case. I may have confused you with someone else.
TajMarie
Weird I googled this name and results about anal itching came up 🤔
Lmfao you can find my website at anishperingol.com but there's not much on there I haven't updated in a while
@@freezeblaster15 I had liked your website and look forward to reading your work on digital education. I actually have a sincere interest in using artificial intelligence to improve cognitive performance. So, this will be of interest to me.
I'm in the process of being of screwed by an ESFP pair.
Let's add another one to the mix. I suspect my dad is one too.
ESFPs find motivation to get great when they see high status (to them) individuals who have fame or success due to expertise and performance and they want to be that person. This is especially true in middle school and high school where the status game starts. They see the pro sports star with all the women, money and respect. They see the pop star with her adoring fans.
ESFP boy realises they're actually good at basketball and befriends the ex pro coach's son and the best guy on the team and works when they work, while wanting to compete and win. He knows he's gotta know the right people and play well when it counts to get the scholarship
ESFP girl realises she has a gift for entertaining and performing and starts doing musical theatre while taking voice and guitar lessons, and forms a band with other musicians as a reason to drive her to write songs and get better, she has to work hard for the band and to get to that level where she can get that big break
16:00 "Per aspera ad astra" sadly we forget the "Per aspera " part.
What happened to your right hand ??
hurt my wrist
As I'm listening, I'm thinking about my ESTP ex-husband. My question is about how personality disorders can schew the ESTP. From what I've learned so far about MBTI types, I don't think any particular type is more likely to exhibit psychopathic/sociopathic tendencies than any other. It seems that any MBTI type could exhibit these qualities in their superego. Would you agree? Is that an accurate way of understanding it? However, my ESTP ex is also a narcissistic (clinical description) ass. A really unhealthy ESTP. Given his ESTPness, he presents as the classic narcissist.
I dated an ESTP who also came across as a narcissist and was a confirmed sadist. I once told him "If you didn't occasionally show some semblance of remorse, I'd think you were a sociopath." And he very nonchalantly said, "Oh, I probably am a sociopath." 😶 Thing is, I don't think a real sociopath would say that. He was playing a role, feigning confidence... In part because he thought that's what I valued. Fe child and especially Se hero is looking to give others a good experience and make them feel good. So I think the appearance of narcissism in (unhealthy) ESTPs can indeed be related to their functions. Of course, we know that clinically presented gradiosity really stems from pervasive internal questioning of self-worth or self-importance. And I guess Ti arrogance can mimick that grandiosity to some degree. Se hero and inferior Ni create a situation where they want to sample a little of everything and try it all, but have immense difficulty choosing one path and settling down and committing to one person. And so, by seemingly endless womanizing and having countless one-night stands, it may appear that they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. I don't actually think this is always the case. Also because that "Se rage" can be abusive, it once again appears they don't care. One of the problems I had is that his Fe needed some strong Fi to latch onto, which I could not or did not give (Fi demon), so he never knew how I felt and his empathy never developed. Because of Fe, I think ESTPs also run the risk of becoming depraved if they surround themselves with the "wrong" types of Fi-users, or the more selfish Fi-users, and even hedonistic philosophy, especially since Fi trickster has such a loose, subjective sense of morality. I think other types can appear to be narcissists or sociopaths or Machiavellians for different reasons related to cognitive functions. But I won't argue that narcissism and sociopathy can be completely unrelated to type in some cases because I believe that's possible. The questions I would have are: Is the phenomenon we witness in types like the ESTP true narcissism/APD? If so, what causes it? Or, alternatively, is the correlation not causal, and are narcissism and sociopathy merely unrelated confounding variables when determining type? I also think that while all types can go into their superego to burn bridges, it is usually a temporary means to an end, and clinical narcissism and APD are defined by being persistent and pervasive enough to interfere with daily life, and most clinicians will agree the narcissist and "sociopath" generally only gets worse over time -- it's not something that just turns off one day. My 2 cents anyway.
@@heatherbryant4197 I absolutely loved reading your response and really appreciate the time you took to respond. Thank you!!
Shannon, I also know an ESTP (relative) who presents what you described above. I'm not really close to him, however I read about NPD and his name popped in my head after reading all of the check marks for NPD on the DCM cluster B list. He was married to an ESFJ relative, they had a rough marriage!
Shannon Logue yes estp has narc ways even healthy
Lisa yup and the ESFJ will stay forever or until the estp tosses them away very sad long lasting abusive situations
I told an ESTP friend of mine earlier that she needs to stop job hopping. I said I know you don't like where you are at that's fine. I said just be your own boss with grubhub because she has done that before.I said know if you go work for another company youre still going to deal with people and bull crap. Meaning you can't run and expect a different outcome. I said you need consistency. I guess that's my Se Parent.
Charles ISFP
i still dont know which one i am. I love improving people and being competent myself. i also have alot of personal values or beliefs but at the same time i disregard what anyone says unless i see it or experience it myself. ive also been told that i can be concided. also selfish. I also care about how others feel and go out of my way to take care of others. im pretty informative when i speak rather than telling others what to do when i want someone to do something. conflict adverse unless someone is dogging on my character with some lying bullshit or false perception of me. ive been told im estp with a high fi family upbringing and then i my self imagine im esfp with se-te dom or normal se-fi. idk tho. fuckin clueless
I let the ESFP have some freedom by leaving him alone for a while and then he eventually comes back. He can be sweet, but oh boy avoid that demon. Tread carefully.
Hey CS Joseph I haven’t watched the video yet as I’m currently working on an assignment while writing this post (LOL) but I wanted to ask a question regarding me possibly being an INFJ (I’m okay with the possibility that I’m not one). Is it normal for me to not have figured out exactly what career path I want to partake in in life and how to achieve true enlightenment and happiness? Is this an INFJ issue or did I mistyped myself (also at some point I want to know if I could set up an online coaching session regarding this type of stuff regarding MBTI and career paths)?
yeah I am unsure, you can check out coaching link in video description for more info.
Which of these (or any) would make a great realtor to go to for selling a house?
both
To Estp it is about sacrificing their self improvement for the sake of the collective well being since they want the collective to feel better since they believe they are doing it for the other persons benefit through child Fe. Esfp will be more practical and simply show the other person how to do it without sacrificing their self improvement in the process since they believe it is the most effective solution overall through Te child.
Is there anywhere we can find any work by this Peri Ani guy??
I haven't published anything yet. I'm a starter type what can I say
@@freezeblaster15 Bruh I'm an ESFP, I must see the ESFP god.
@@kramerknipe4332 Lmao you can go to anishperingol.com but I haven't updated that site in a couple years
hi.. could u add a video covering how ISFJ's compare to INFJ'S to your list ?
It's already been done I think it's in the season 11 playlist.
Personal opinion here. Mature (like real mature) ESXPs are the most powerful types.
They never mature... especially Esfps
Most powerful type is ISTP...
ESTP - Logan Paul | ESFP - Jake Paul ?
isnt it the other way around ..
ESFJ and ENTJ
My experience with the two types is that ESFPs are more domineering than ESTPs
Domineering, maybe in terms of trying to take all your time (ALL) and constantly control the environment in such a way that you don't leave their presence at that moment? Nah, that was just one. In any case, maybe you are right. But, estps can be quite domineering, and then give you your space, but only after a non-stop 2-day binge of quality time.
I disagree. I am ESFP my boyfriend is ESTP (I think) and he tends to be dominant more than me. He has to have everything in order, logic, events planned for other 2003050505 people. I am like I don't care if something goes wrong, as long as it is offstage and it is not important for me. During work I have to be structured, I can be a bitch sometimes and even my manager thinks that I am an ENTJ, what makes me laught. It depends on a person I think. ESTP boyfriend wants to be masculine, confident and logic but personally I know that he is soft as a teddy bear you know. So, no- both don't need to be domineering.
@@ucjapecuch9094 I was referring to an ESFP guy I dated. Domineering for sure in terms of getting his way and keeping your company
Where do you get your info from actually? Cause you explain Se very differently than others. I always thought it was short-term memory, in the moment pleasure, excitement/novel sensory ( Vs si comfort and familiar sensory pleasure).
check out the books section on my website.
It is long term. Se doms actually explain every detail of their past memory incidents.
FP causes selfishness? TP causes arrogance? Just wondering... Not to argue or anything lol... I've had enough controversy and misunderstanding from people on youtube lately.
He seems to be spot on, in my opinion. Not just to that point, but overall.
@@queenofeagles FP is self centered but not selfish. I went to help my friend to give her a lift while suffering from dengue. Long long drive. INFP
Erin It’s true. As an ESFP i am not that arrogant but i am selfish. I mean i am bold and sometimes outspoken but actually i am rather shy for the stereotypical ESFP. There is a guy in my class who screams to me ESTP. I thought he had a crush on me yet he has a crush on me and on other 5 girls in my class. And he’s damn arrogant. Like he is smart and hot(he is a professional footballer yet he still gets straight As). I did have a crush on him at some point.Also my best friend’s boyfriend is ENTP and people call me arrogant. Well i am narcissistic but my best friend’s boyfriend is the most arrogant person i’ve ever met. My best friend is ESFJ
Its like you see my mind😂😂
Would you agree with the celebrity stereotype that Russell Brand is an ESFP?
Or ENFP?
@MAD_BISCUIT 23 ok, so ENFP, then. Doh! The interaction styles we talked about here seemed to match quite a bit, though, don't ya think? Thanks for correcting me.
i dont know who he is.
@@CSJoseph here's a good compilation of Russell Brand in various interviews. ruclips.net/video/s6YxJyokaD8/видео.html
@@CSJoseph ruclips.net/video/W2637WqSDIw/видео.html
Eighth.
Yes
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Joseph your entj
So you’re saying I am greedy then?
I'm an ENTJ and my ex was either an ESTP or ESFP. I hate his fucking guts. I'm going to make sure I never have another ESFP or ESTP in my life again.