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5 Reasons to Avoid the “את Cepher” Bible
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Recently, a “Bible” known as the את Cepher has been gaining popularity among some believers. It incorporates several non-inspired books in its collection, contains numerous inaccurate transliterations and translations, and plagiarizes Wikipedia and other sources. In this video, I explain why you should avoid this “Bible.”
00:00 Introduction
00:22 The Eth Cepher Plagiarizes Wikipedia and Other Sources
02:51 The People Behind the Eth Cepher Are Unqualified
04:30 The Eth Cepher Employs Bizarre, Inaccurate transliterations
06:52 The Eth Cepher Includes Non-Inspired Books
08:25 The Eth Cepher Contains Numerous Mistranslations
10:13 Conclusion
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What is the TLV Please, are you still with 119? Thank you Shalom.
@@krackerTooTree of life version. I think if you google it there's a free PDF version. I speak under correction. Shalom
😮 Wow. Im so beyond greived with this walk sometimes. Thanks for this. YAH has laid it on my heart to write children scriptures, when you mentioned that the were unqualified it made me think well, what makes me qualified? Can i talk to you about this via email? Thanks and Shalom.
What Buble do you use? Ah TLV i commented too early
Interestingly, after all my studies and research, I have found errors in ALL of what are accepted as "authorized" translations of the holy scriptures! I have seen great differences between NASB, NKJV, KJV, NRSV, ASV, and many others in their translations, most especially in the areas of Psalms, and Psalm like passages. When I read the scriptures I do NOT rely on scholars but on the Spirit of YAH! He directs me to the original Hebrew and Greek and clarifies the matter for me!
If you don’t understand Greek or Hebrew yourself then you don’t understand or know anything. You have to rely on English translations my friend and scholars lol. None of the books we have are written in it’s original language so your whole idea is flawed heavily
I bought my et-Cepher in 2017, it's been a blessing to me and an inspiration to study more on scripture and lead a life searching Yah in my life. There is not a version of scripture that is accurate in translation including the ancient Roman and Greek versions not to speak of the KJV which majority of the world is exposed to. I personally have met Dr Pigeon and I can say that he is truly an inspiration in encouraging personal relationship with Yah and His Yeshua, Yahusha.
Absolutely true Chris. Beautifully stated! Amen brother. Dr. Pidgeon has opened our eyes to the truth of the Living Word. HalleluYAH
This is a complete straw man set up so you can ignore the egregious and irrefutable errors contained in the book you claim to be a blessing. Shame on you.
You're right there's no good translation, but if you get E-Sword and add the Bible versions like He rew Latin Greek you can have a perfect translation by reading each definition and comparing the NT Greek to OT Greek then converting to Hebrew. You'll find things like in revelations where everyone misses the fact that some words mean something totally different than what has been penned.
that doesn't change the fact that you support false scripture
I think some of you missed the plagiarism part, unqualified part, the blatant altering part, etc.....
But, I guess plagiarism and altering the already altered state of the Bible is something to follow for some!!!
And, That's just crazy and a waste of time (in My opinion)!!!
It would be very interesting to watch a discussion between you and Pidgeon regarding your opinions represented here. Perhaps you can reach out to him and see if he would be willing to have a discussion.
I love my Cepher! It is my life line Therefore Do not know
what you are speaking of its a wonderful inspiring word of Yah ! Its the bible and the book of Enoch etc . If you discredit the Cepher you will have to discredit the Ethiopian bible also so I suggest you please investigate in depth not just google , or go on your feelings . The beauty of it is the result of the knowledge of a very inspired team. Plus if you want to get technical start asking Yahusha to reveal truth to you .
You poor thing, Satan is a master beguiler and he has fooled you.
@@HAChrist awe you poor thing , still living in rome worshipping other gods and not learning the Torah having Christmas, easter bunny and valentine and not even blinking an eye to Yahs holy days that he said is forever . He is the same today, tomorrow, and yesterday ., but you are right I will not depute satan is working double time . Its sad one can allow a man to determine what is supposed to be read instead of what Yah says and calling on Yahusha Ha' Mashiach to be your only Rabbi test all spirits don't believe what man says . The arrogance speech is worthy of rebuking I love my Cepher its a wonderful book , was given that before I bought the Cepher 2 witnesses, Its very important to always get 2 witnesses to confirm truth . In daniels 222 He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with him.
Another thing it was mentioned that the Cepher publishers were not qualified, well who does Yah choose I immediately thought wow that is a comment of a pharisee . Bible scholars and religion is dead !! I want to know all truth cause I love my Father so much and Yahusha is my Rabbi .
@@HAChristyou may want to look in the mirror.
Lmaaaaao let’s talk about the Ethiopian Bible. The earliest of it is 4th -5th cenutry AD and it’s manuscript tradition has multiple forgery’s in it that we know are not inspired books (tho I don’t think any book is inspired)
@@donnahysmith9877so the Torah doesn’t have paganism in it?
The Founder and President of Cepher Publishing Group, LLC., Dr. Stephen Pidgeon is a political scientist with a Doctorate of Philosophy, and an active attorney with a Juris Doctorate in the state of Washington. In collaboration with a group of students of scripture, he is responsible for the creation and publication of the Eth CEPHER; a comprehensive restoration of sacred scripture in the English language. Dr. Pidgeon is a student of many languages, including Greek, Hebrew, Russian, French, Spanish and Italian. An avid reader and author, he has published over 30 books in the last several years.
Hello, can you provide your sources that verify his language credentials. Haven’t been able to find ANYTHING. Thanks
@@diannawilliams4049 Can you provide "credentials" that you can speak English? Thanks.
How can I know you are qualified to review any scripture?
Going to school for theology and learning history and languages I guess
@@breannac297 That makes no sense.
Honestly, the best thing to do is to ask God for discernment when exploring new religious texts/teachers
I love how you watched this video and that’s what you decided to take away from it. How is he qualified? Well for one if you research what he’s saying you’ll find out it’s true. I hope you’re not trying to defend this book and the people who wrote it. It has a forged copy of a book that has been lost to time that should tell you enough.
When they say to ban it, you should buy tons and distribute them to people who will appreciate the truth.
I had one many years ago… it was so difficult to read due to the pseudo-Hebrew. So many believers are getting scammed 😢
Mia ton Sabbaton does not mean first day of the week. That is hidden sun worship. Mia ton Sabbaton means first sabbath (in the counting of the omer leading up to Shavuot), or one of the Sabbaths, or a certain Shabbath.
Strong's Number - G3391
Greek: μία
Transliteration: mia
Pronunciation: mee'-ah
Definition: Irregular feminine of G1520; one or first: - a (certain) + agree first one X other.
KJV Usage: 👉one (62x), first (8x), a certain (4x), a (3x), the other (1x),👈 agree (with G4160) (with G1106) (1x).
Occurs: 79
In verses: 70
Strong's Number - G4521
Greek: σάββατον
Transliteration: sabbaton
Pronunciation: sab'-bat-on
Definition: 👉Of Hebrew origin [H7676]; the Sabbath (that is Shabbath) or day of weekly repose from secular avocations (also the observance or institution itself);👈 by extension a se'nnight that is the interval between two Sabbaths; likewise the plural in all the above applications: - sabbath (day) week.
KJV Usage: 👉sabbath day (37x), sabbath (22x),👈 week (9x).
Occurs: 68
In verses: 62
Strong's Number - H7676
Hebrew: שׁבּת
Transliteration: shabbâth
Pronunciation: shab-bawth'
Definition: Intensive from H7673; {intermission} that {is} (specifically) the Sabbath: - (+ every) sabbath.
KJV Usage: 👉sabbath (107x),👈 another (1x).
Occurs: 108
In verses: 89
Sabbaton is mistranslated as day of the week 9 times in Scripture. When you look that Word up in the original languages, using a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, it does not say first day of the week, it says Sabbath. It's hidden sun worship perpetrated by the roman church.
This is just factually incorrect.
@@DavidWilberBlog Good evidence there, bud.
@@DavidWilberBlog prof not found or presented
@@DavidWilberBlog Which part. I am interested. Once I finish this I will buy the Hebrew version and learn it myself. But what about what was said was incorrect here. This is a good comment to pin and correct if you have a chance.
@@dlsj3602I also discovered the Sabbath in that passage and found similar results in other verses while reading my KJV. It actually aligns with the view that the Roman Church wanted Sabbath changed from the 7th day to 1st. Others won't see what I'm seeing and disagree, but that's okay with me. I just pray that everyone view these things with humble eyes, instead of immediately replying with a mouth of mockery.
I'm wondering if you wrote doctor Pidgeon about your concerns before you made this public since you are a Torah teacher
I didn't feel like that was necessary. He released this work to the public; I publicly responded to it.
@@DavidWilberBlogA lot of people do things publicly. Like sin. What does Scripture say about how to handle someone caught in a fault? Does it say to blast them in public or to go to them in private?
@@dlsj3602 Why are you blasting me in a public RUclips comment instead of coming to me in private?
@@DavidWilberBlog I'm not blasting you. I'm asking why you're not being a doer of the Word. There's a difference. I do think I'm done supporting 119 ministries after all this though. Humble yourself, my friend. Shalom.
@@dlsj3602 There isn't a difference. You are publicly calling my character into question instead of bringing your concerns to me privately. Why aren't you being a doer of the Word? I'm just using your own standard, my friend.
All English versions of the Bible have changed a thing or two in the scriptures - they actually mention that in their prefaces. Some, like the NIV, have even omitted certain scriptures. So one will do a review on the C(S)epher, another on the KJV, another on the NIV, etc... which one contains the accurate version?
I bought one of these a few years ago as I was first getting into the Pronomian understanding of the faith. Was difficult to read and I could not understand why some things were done the way they were. Thank you for the video as always!
Side note - Greatly enjoyed reading through your Sabbath book. Just finished it and it has helped with talking points with my family/friends.
Glad you were blessed by my book! Loving hearing that it has helped people. If you don't mind, please leave a review on Amazon. Reviews really help nobody authors like me.
@@DavidWilberBlog Probably the only time I have ever left a review, but definitely worth it! As my review says, I only wish I had bought 2 so I had one to loan out 🤣
Bro David. Thank you for your reviews of the Cepher bible. Could you please review the HalleluYAH scriptures? Thanks Yah bless.
I heard it was plagiarized from The Scriptures by ISR.
Yes please, also the Yahuah bible...please.
Sounds kind of like what Joseph Smith did with his “translation” of the Bible
Brother David, Thankyou for making this video🙏
Which bible is the most accurate translation without to much altering??? What will be your advice??
Exactly! Great question. They have all been altered. I have an old bible that was my great, great grandmothers and it’s even questionable, not to mention hard to read.
Wow, thank you, David, for all you do for the body of Messiah ❤ Your hard work is not in vein.
Hi David. I am seeing loads of people saying rhe traditional calendar ia wrong and we should follow the zadok/Enoch calendar. Have you studied this? If so, would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks Brother. I havd never had any desire to own a copy of the Cepher. Shalom.
What do you read?
The Cepher is the melanated version 😂❤
According to my Google search, “Wikipedia borrows its content and credibility from external editorial bodies.” So how do you know that Wikipedia didn’t quote from the Cepher?
Because I checked the edit history on Wiki and the content was published there long before the Cepher was published.
Thanks for the honest and scholarly evaluation. And the conviction to take the time to warn us.
I love the cepher, id like to know what you would consider qualified ?
People doing translations should actually know the languages they are translating.
@@DavidWilberBlog so what translation do you read?
Thanks for the video, I've been against this bible for years, as you mentioned, it bothers me to that Pigeon transliterates Sepher to Cepher. Queen Esther is Ecther -- so weird! I've even emailed him a couple of times with no response. I ended up just giving the AT Cepher away and bit the bullet of paying over $100 for it, and a lesson learned.
You CANNOT plagiarize Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a source. Wikipedia is a collection of sources. Also how do you know that Wikipedia didn’t copy from the Cepher?
Copying from Wikipedia without attribution is indeed plagiarism. Look it up. And if you watched the video, you would have heard me mention that I checked the "edit history," and the copied content was published on Wikipedia many years before the first edition of the Cepher was published. But even if you want to dispute this demonstrable fact for whatever strange reason, the author of the Cepher still plagiarized the book from Elizabeth Claire Prophet published in 2000. What is more likely-that the author of Cepher's preface plagiarized these sources, or that the authors of these others sources built a time machine and traveled to the future to plagiarize the Cepher?
Do you have a direct link to a septugent and lexicon? I'm overwhelmed by all the different version options..🙏🙏🙏
David,again thank you for honest helpfulness in mind with new believers in fellowship with Jesus Yeshua.📖
Thank you David, I wish I had this info years ago when I spent $125 it. I was a real green newbie in Torah and walking in the whole Bible.
I already got the eht cepher... there are some things I agree with you on but I personally use the eht cepher online for the apochryphal scriptures... some thing I might have to disagree with you on but maybe I'll delve into what is being talked
im pleased to have had the cepher in my collection for maybe 5 years now.. i have also found cepher publishing to be willing to respond when i had a conflicting translation.
Thank-you so much! Very interesting! We attended a congregation (for all of two weeks) that used this. They actually referred to it as "The Aleph-Tav Cepher"! They also used individual Hebrew letters in words to give them alternate possible interpretations. When we left, our oldest son commented exactly what we were feeling. "That was the worst example of 'reading into Scripture' that I have ever heard!" Smart young man. Two good reasons to not stay there! We also didn't like the book, but didn't want to spend the money to check it out. You have given us enough reason to know that our instincts were correct. Thank-you again!
The TLB is a dynamic equivalent bible. I personally don't like dynamic equivalent versions because I've spent a long time studying the Greek and Hebrew nuances and find that many dynamic equivalent bibles paraphrase verses not truly understanding the nuances or putting a particular religious leaning spin on their paraphrases.
Thank you for sharing. I got 3 copies of the cepher a couple of years ago or so for me and my family. My husband never went back to it after the first time reading it. Personally, i have enjoyed listening to Stephen Pidgeon and i was able to glean from him, but i dont care to read the cepher anymore. I agree Yehoshua/Yeshua is our Messiah's name. I highly prefer reading the transliterations of the Gebrew names, but i stll tend to read them that way while I'm reading other translations.
Would you please add links to the resources shown at 7:52? Yes, I will type each one in to get to them, but not everyone will. Actually, a couple of them I have already seen.
Great works David. Thank you
I agree. This is a book for folks with itchy ears .....i can give you insight into one it two subjects from scripture. That doesn't mean that I am now qualified to teach or put together a Bible. Shalom David, God bless .
Awesome research brother David thank you for shining some light on all of us that were interested on purchasing the Ceper. May Yahweh keep blessing you with knowledge and revelation.
Ah yes (expert) every time I hear this excuse i know something is up with the people throwing it around just like we should all trust the cought cought experts my people die do to lack of knowledge
Hello David thank you for that information is was extremely helpful
Test what these people say don't take what they say as fact without testing or you are failing the teachers just as much as they are failing you
Thank you, David. The Cepher always seemed sus to me. It is critical that we have good translations that are honest and open about their sources and methodology.
Test it yourself don't take them for there words
@@Kozmo-Kamuy I think that's part of my point. The translators and publishers need to be able to point us to their sources and inform us of their approach so that we can test their conclusions and compare them with other quality interpretations.
Thank you great work brother, I agree with your excellent research.God bless you ,my friend in Christ.
Thank you Mr. Wilber. I was considering to buy that Eth Cepher Bible because as you said, I am one of those who want to dive deeper into the scripture. Thank you for this timely warning.
Yes! FINALLY a person brave enough to call them out I tell when I can but I have no following, but I sure do not swallow up everything the torah movement promotes with their names they pull out of hats w such Arrogancy immediately I am skeptical first off if it’s not the textus receptus it’s not the word of God. This Iam 1000 percent perfectly and completely sure.
Brother David, the so-called translator seems to be an educated but biased sacred namer or something close to that. I have run into this Bible being used by people fresh in the Hebrew roots groops and prisoners from my prison ministry.
Yes, I think it's popular because there are many people who have a preference for using Hebrew names. That is fine, but there are MUCH better options for that (e.g., the TLV).
Ah yes the faith is now a prison
TLV does not have the proper names it used God,Lord etc
Wilbur posts have become absolute garbage, its becoming tiring to sift through his bad material to find his good work.
Thanks for mentioning that you think I've done some good work. Appreciate that.
@@DavidWilberBlog of course, brother. I'm not going to lie or be glib.
I Have the 3rd Edition of the Cepher Bible , I like the Cepher Scriptures , and I also heard that the Halleyah Scriptures , has taken their Scriptures or some of the Scriptures from a Bible called The Scriptures , Which those comes from a company out of South Africa which i also have a copy of and like , if i am getting it correctly that The Scriptures Bible comes from South Africa ?And It is so sad that companies are wanting to rob from each other .
I live not far from where there is a community based on the Cepher and the PO BOX they use as their mailing address. I'll just leave that there.
So i do know people who use this.
For all the reasons you mentioned and more, this was a pass for me.
Too much ego involved is another and good grief, is it burdensome and difficult to read! I truly dislike even hearing it read because its just confusing.
Appreciate the video. Completely agree on this.
Acts 20:7 uses first day of the week also... but the greek word is sabbathon. When reading that chapter you see they had just celebrated Unleavened bread and then began to count the sabbaths, in verse 16 it says so paul could be in jerusalem for Shavuot... whats are your thoughts David ?
Acts 20:7 was not the Sabbath but rather one of the Sundays between UB and Shavuot, possibly Saturday night (which would technically be the beginning of the first day of the week). The Greek phrase translated as first day of the week, mia ton sabbaton, is the exact phrase used elsewhere in the NT for the first day of the week (e.g. Mark 16:2). Literally it is "one/first from the Sabbath/week." That is, the first (day) following the Sabbath.
Mashiach rose on the Sabbath. Not sunday. He was crucified on Pesach (Passover) which was Wednesday before sundown. Buried just before Matstsah (Unleavened Bread) Wednesday after dark. Raised Shabbath morning right before/around sunrise.
Wed. night - Thurday
Thurs. night - Friday
Friday night - Saturday
Three days and three nights.
Hello @dls3602 How do you get Wednesday, when the Greek states that Christ was buried Friday evening, called the day of Preparation? In Jewish Culture, Preparation Day is Friday evening, not Wednesday or Thursday. Luke 23:52 He went into the presence of Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. 53 Then he took the body down, wrapped it in a linen sheet, and placed it in a tomb which had been dug out of solid rock and which had never been used. 54 It was FRIDAY, and the Sabbath was about to begin.@@dlsj3602
Unfortunately my friend you are using modern Hebrew which is really Yiddish mixed with Hebrew you have to use what the real Hebrews used paleo Hebrew. Pharisees since the time of Jesus Yahusha not Yashua have been adding their leven to the Word and expanding it. And it was never J’s it’s always yahudiem. No J in ancient Hebrew, Greek or Latin. Try again.
Doesn’t change the fact that the cepehr and the hallelujah scripture translations are not only inaccurate but it purposely changes the text to fit a certain theology. There’s no manuscript evidence for this type of translation at all.
The tree of life version (tlv) says in Mark 9:29, "this kind cannot come out except by prayer." It completely leaves out "by fasting." Prayer and fasting, it should say...
Mark 9:29 KJV
And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting.
"And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting."
MARQUS (MARK) 9:29 את CEPHER
The tlv says in John 7:8, "I'm not going up to this feast," leaving out the Word "yet." And then in verse 10 it says He (Mashiach) went up to the feast, basically making Him out to be a liar. It should say I'm not going up yet...
John 7:8 KJV
Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.
"Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come."
YOCHANON (JOHN) 7:8 את CEPHER
I'm not sure why you're pushing a manuscript that leaves out Words, powerful Words about fasting, and makes Mashiach out to be a liar, but it is definitely alarming to me that you're doing so...
I think I'll stick with the version that has the proper verses and proper Words. Shalom.
Tell me you don't know anything about textual criticism without telling me you don't know anything about textual criticism... The TLV is going by the earliest and best manuscripts; the KJV and Cepher that use the TR. That's why there is a difference. The TLV does provide a footnote saying "Some manuscripts add and fasting." See my teaching on the 119 Ministries channel titled "Testing KJV-Onlyism." Hope it helps!
@@DavidWilberBlog The KJV has over 8000 mistranslations. I read the HalleluYAH Scriptures, but they don't have an app for copying and pasting.
No version is going to be 100% accurate, but you can look the Words up using a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance and trace them back to the original manuscripts, which gets rid of any confusion.
The tlv makes Mashiach out to be a liar, by leaving out the Word "yet" in John 7:8. A lot of the versions do it (the esv, niv, etc.). There's no asterisk (footnote) on that one...
There may be mistranslations, but the Words are still there. Not in these other versions though.
I'm not here to change your mind, just share the Truth. You do with it what you will. Shalom.
@@dlsj3602 There's lots of information online you can find that shows HalleluYAH Scriptures used the ISR Scriptures without authorization, and then modified it from there. There's lots of shady info about HalleluYAH Scriptures. I personally know people who were affected by them. I'd stay clear, and just get The Scriptures if you like the translation.
@@DavidWilberBlog wow Mister you don't know anything I know everything hates being out to the test like I pointed out we need to do in my comment you deleted
@@theforgedone prof
EXCELLENT CALL! The problem is people are easily deceived just like the WORD tells us! I went to a place that spoke from the cepher (sefer) it was weird. People pray for discernment and wisdom from YESHUA.
I have had an Et Cepher for years, since it came out. I wanted to read the extra books for myself, the language, and analyze all of it together. I did not copy and paste the text into Google and realize some of the uncited material within. Although, I imagine that someone on his teams may have not told him that they copied and pasted from Google? Just to give benefit of the doubt.
I enjoyed the critique alot.
To David, I wish I could find it and remember more... but, I either saw or read interview that Dr. Pidgeon did many years ago where he explained how he got his translation renderings for the name of "God" and "Jesus". He was actually and surprisingly not as dogmatic about the issue as those who follow him. It is almost as though many of the people who enjoyed listening to him made somewhat of an idol out of his work, type of thing... from what I saw of it all going on. His rendering of God's name, based on my memory, came on his deduction from being among Native American tribes that he believes were the descendants or somehow learned from the traditions of Hebrews.
I wish I could remember more, but if you're interested... perhaps you could find something on it. The interview should still be available somewhere perhaps.
Shalom Elecheim..
Dear Brother in Ya'sh'u'ah Ha Mashiach.
Todah Rabah for this interesting Video.
Do you subscribe to the KJV English Bible, or do you subscribe to the Alexandrian Texts.
Ahava
Bro Emek.
I've heard it said that if you don't rely on bible scholars, you have to become a bible scholar.
I'm not a bible scholar so thank you for all your hard work.
Well, which scholars do you listen to, because you can find scholars to affirm whatever belief you can imagine.
Who does the Scriptures say we should listen to? "Moses continued, The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him."
Great work David Wilbur. Thanks eh
Brother, you are discounting wilful corruption of the Greek and Latin manuscripts. Even the Hebrew Masoretic text has the added Nikkud symbols, never present in ancient Hebrew.
Your opinion is based on the truth of source text which are ALL Catholic (since Nicea) and thus infested with Roman pagan doctrine.
Pray that the Ruach Qodesh guides you in all Truth.
I’m glad I came across this. I bought this book years ago because it was suggested to me. I never read it. Maybe my Heavenly Father knew what was best for me even when I didn’t know better. Blessings. ❤
The cepher is unsettling many as it provides the truest version of the Scriptures.....
😂😂😂😂 prove it ? Please tell me what manuscript tradition does the cepehr follow
I was looking for a copy of apocrypha books. First few paragraphs in to enoch I thought this doesn't seem to blend with biblical writing styles. Have you or 119 ever covered Ezekiel 45? If not that would make an interesting one
Good review & points to ponder but they're your doctrinal beliefs and very much open to other good opinions
Is it so that the NLV Bible omits the name of The Most High, The Father as does the KJV?
He didn't even do a side by side he just made claims he could have at least interviewed the author test everything these people tell you
How about the IRS
The scriptures version ?
Nothing surprises me anymore
Pray for discernment
I will be mentioning to my son since I got him one of these
Good one David.
What about the bynv by Lew White??
Please admin dont delete my input comments we want the people to know the truth. We on a journey to the other sode of the world
"The Cepher, sometime referred to as the “Cepher Bible,” is a non-scholarly work that claims to restore many “missing” books, phrases, and chapters to the Bible. The book is officially titled Eth Cepher, from the Hebrew words for “divinity” and “book.” The publishers claim that they do not call their work a “Bible”; however, they refer to the material incessantly as “biblical” in every other aspect. For all intents and purposes, the Cepher is a custom translation/compilation of the Bible. Save calling it a “Bible” directly, that’s exactly how the Cepher is marketed."
Cepher doesn't claim to be a "bible". a "bible has its origins in paganism and doesn't mean "divine book".
Strange that they called our sacred book a "bible".
Cepher interprets from the original hebrew as well as greek- and the who do you think wrote wikipedia?
Pidgeon and his associates wrote cepher. They worked for years to find the sources and the work for the book. and a forword is not the actual book.
he worked with a number of other scholars to interprete the original Bible. you obviously didn't do your homework.
Hi David do you believe in the Ruach (Spirit) of Prophecy and the fact that our Mashiach took complete sinners and made them disciples / Apostles to preach unto the world in order to spread the good news message
What if Yah used Dr Stephen Pidgeon in His own way to produce a book for people who want to study deeper than normal
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned. Mathew 12:36-37
Excellent explanation Brother.
Shalom
What are your thoughts on The Hallelujah Scriptures?
Grifters, look into it, people have exposed them, shalom in the name of Yahusha.
The publisher actually never makes the claim that this is a bible translation and in fact they're quite open about the Cepher being a collection of study materials assembled by non-scholars. Your video is not only biased but you demonstrate that you're either a liar or don't know any better. Hate if you want to, but don't forget that you're no more an authority than anyone else.
Did you watch the whole video? David actually says this as part of it!
@@churchindangerberean3518so then why are you commenting on this post if David proved this comment to be true ?
You should have a discussion with Dr. Stephen Pidgeon. I think both of you could clear this up.
The bottom line, is if you can not pick up a Hebrew Scroll and read it, you are not Qualified to say any translation is Accurate, or inaccurate. When it comes to Translations, none of them are perfect! But, if you are someone who can not read Biblical Hebrew. I would suggest that you obtain a translation that actually has the Name of The Father in it, as the Originals most definitely do contain the name of the Father. And the name of the Father is definitely the key of knowledge which so many translations have removed! Read Luke 11:52 and meditate on that! Also read Yirmeyahu-Jeremiah 8:8.
Books like the Cepher (that change God and Lord back to EL and YAH) reveal the greatest lie ever told. When you read the scriptures and it reads Lord, you think it is talking about Jesus. But really it is talking about YAH. There is only one name that can save you. YAHUAH. Isaiah, Peter and Paul all say this.
Acts 4:10-12
Yahshua is Yahuah
Thank you so much I was confused
HalleluYAH! ❤ (Praise you I AM!)
I was gifted the cepher years ago. Tried to read it a few times and just couldn’t get passed the kjv language, glad it didn’t work out 😆
Needs to have the first and second Books of Adam & Eve, The Apocalypse of Abraham, The Epistle to the Laodecians, The Gospel of the Hebrews.
La Nobla Leycon, The Key of Truth.
Also some books in the Lost books of the bible and the forgotten books of Eden.
And commentary from Ginsburg The Legends of the Jews.
and you claim he doesn't have the "knowledge and expertise" - but i can assure you that the scribes and priests commissioned to translate the catholic bible and the kjv and a number of others did not have "knowledge and expertise" - and they mistranslated a lot of it.
Do you know paleo hebrew
The scriptures are about and for the Israelites. That the whole world took a run with it in the form of the bible, does not change the facts
I enjoy my Cepher!
There are around a dozen different spoken dialects of Ivrit and at least four written dialects.
Biblical Hebrew is Tiberian Hebrew written dialect as I understand. Samecḥ seems to be transliterated most often in Yemenite style and Ashkenazi style, meaning Samecḥ shows up as ס "s" or סּ/סְּ "ss" and I have never seen it as "k" in all my studies. Also, פ pei is hard or soft and when you try saying p(h) it comes out as "f" of which there is absolutely no issue transliterating as "ph" because that is literally what it renders.
Ghimmel as g(h), Dhaleth as d(h), Pei as p(h), and Tav as t(h) are no issue at all. This is Biblical Hebrew being dealt with, not modern or contemporary Ivrit. There are transliteration styles and dialectic practices which have fallen out of use in the contemporary understanding either because of least common denominator mindset or practicality or laziness.
i do love my TLV...
Gotta trust them “lawyers” don’t we? 😂
Well done brother. Thank you for pointing this information out.
The more I watch of your videos, the more respect I have for your work. I think you and I and a few more folks should get together and discuss some of the things you’re covering brother.
I see Busybody David is up to his antics again, I see the Pride in you Davy boy.
K whatever. That’s an epic beard, btw. Well done.
Every bible translation has some biasness and all all subject to mistranslation. Also you say the Cepher has uninspired books, how do you determine what is considered inspired or not?
The reason I reject books like 1 Enoch and Jubilees as inspired is because the Messiah and the apostles rejected them. They also contain false doctrines. Jews and Christians have never received those books as inspired. See the resources I mentioned in this video to learn more.
@@DavidWilberBlog The Messiah and apostles rejected them? Where exactly did they reject these books? We see where one of the Apostle clearly quoted from the book of Enoch in Jude word for word. Jude said that Enoch prophesied which means he was inspired by the Holy Spirit when he wrote this. Did you know many of the "church fathers" rejected the book of Revelation, Jude, James, and other books like Daniel as uninspired and wanted them taken out?
I address all of these questions in the resources I mentioned in this video. Jude quotes Enochic tradition, but it is not clear that the entirety of what we know as 1 Enoch even existed in his time. The authors of 1 Enoch and Jude may have been drawing from similar oral traditions, rather than Jude drawing from 1 Enoch directly. But even if Jude were directly quoting 1 Enoch, it does not prove he thought of the entirety of the work as inspired, only the portion he quoted which he believed came from Enoch. Again, we can't even be sure that the entirety of what we know as 1 Enoch even existed yet. (Some scholars date the writing of 1 Enoch 37-71 to the first century AD, for instance.) So, the reference in Jude, which is indeed the BEST evidence in support of the Enochic tradition reflected in the NT, still does not get you where you need to get in order to say that 1 Enoch is inspired.
I'd be interested on your thoughts regarding modern day Israel. Maybe you can make a video on that? Do you believe they are truly Jewish, is there return to the land a fulfillment of prophecy, or not? Ive seen both sides in the torah community, those who support israel and those who think modern day israel is a deception and not a genuine return or fulfillment of prophecy. It seems very polarized.
It is on the list. I fully support Israel and the Jewish people.
Shalom brother and thanks for the insight. I personally use the TS2009 and it's my favorite but at times it can be difficult to understand because of the literal translation (can be good too).
Tree of Life Version is great too and much easier to read but sadly the names are not Biblical and they use "ADONAI" where the Name of YAHUAH in Hebrew appears. It's a violation of the 3rd Commandment and it needs to be taken seriously.
If you want a translation that also uses the original Hebrew names, I'd recommend The Complete Jewish Bible. It is a magnificent translation and is my favorite translation for the B'rit Chadashah (NT)
Brother if you truly understood the secrets of the Father Yahuah you wouldn't be wearing glasses.... let me tell you this translation is one of the best and greatest and your warning doesn't show any errors why it should be avoided thanks.
The maker of this video doesn't realize that most Bible translations are inaccurate. He proves it when referring to actual Hebrew spelling of the Son's Name, which was inaccurately translated as Jesus.
Names should always be TRANSLITERATED from the ORIGINAL language. You don't use a Greek or Latin spelling to TRANSLITERATE a Hebrew Name into English.
An example is the car company Ford: it's pronounced the same way around the world. The name isn't translated into a totally different name in each country's language... so it makes sense to apply the same logic to the names of people.
I agree that the Eth Cepher has issues... but it's better than most English translations that use the name Jesus, which He was NEVER called while on earth in the flesh... and never will be in His Kingdom.
Men have trivialized the changing of His Hebrew Name, when it's clearly stated in Acts THREE TIMES that He spoke it to Shaul (he was NEVER called Paul) from Heaven.
Most Bibles have Him inaccurately saying that His Name is Jesus when there is neither a letter "J" nor sound in Hebrew. Our Savior wasn't Greek, Latin, or English... so those versions of His Name are irrelevant when referring to a Jewish Savior (Acts 4:12).
David, thank you for this. Did you discuss this matter with Dr. Pidgeon before doing the video?
No, I didn't feel like that was necessary. He released this thing to the public, so I publicly reviewed it.
No, he did NOT have any discussion with Dr. Pidgeon before he spewed this inaccurate defamatory diatribe.
Serpents talk, there are “floodgates in Heaven Angels open to make it rain” give me a break
But so what? Your saying to avoid a more accurate scripture because some things were already previously established elsewhere and the author didn’t give those who discovered this information any credit? So you’d rather have us all read an obviously corrupted version of the scripture that doesn’t even accurately direct our fathers name? What’s your goal here? I mean, do you happen to have an original book of the scripture in your possession cause in 2024 it’s looking like this the best we’re gonna get
If you want to spend $95 on plagiarized garbage full of mistranslations, go for it. But I’m recommending that folks use a good translation instead. Hope that helps!
The Sad fact is that the person who made this Bible did NOT know even the BASICS of Hebrew.
The title of his "Bible" is misspelled AND "et" cannot really be translated.
There is no "C" or "Ph" in Hebrew. The word he was trying to spell is "sefer" ( i.e. book).
The first three verses of the Book of Enoch PROVE that it is NOT a pre-Noah's_Flood record.
Bold, bias commentary. What method are you determining what's inspired and what is not? Sounds like you been sold on one understanding and not open to the awesomeness God has available for all who seek him. Clearly throughout history, historical accountings have been changed for whatever reason. Anyway good luck on your channel. Watch your biasness when commenting on things you don't agree with.
The Messiah and apostles did not consider books like 1 Enoch and Jubilees inspired, so I don't either. It's that simple. See my many articles and videos on the topic to learn more.
@@DavidWilberBlogI'm curious what book, chapter, and verse offers such clear direction on 1 Enoch and Jubilees not being inspired? This would be a great reference that I've never heard before.
@@DavidWilberBlogEnoch was a Prophet, Matthew 5:17 & John 24:44 clearly shows that Enoch being a prophet that the Messiah Jesus clearly shows that he should be considered inspired. Please provide clear verses that the Messiah Jesus & apostles says Enoch is not inspired. Also son of men & Ancient (head) of days is clearly defined. And Ancient (head) of days can refer to both the Son & the Father, both Anicent of Days & Head of days = beginning. Verse 71:14 there is no issue for Enoch to be called son of man. Lots of people in the Bible were called son of men without equating them as the Messiah. At the same time being anointed dosen't mean you are replacing Jesus either. So what does Messiah mean in Hebrew? mâshîyach, maw-shee'-akh; from H4886; anointed; usually a consecrated person (as a king, priest, or saint); specifically, the Messiah:-anointed, Messiah. So do you have a problem with kings / priest or saints being called Messiah if they are anointed? How many times was Ezekiel called son of man, Daniel or Ezra for that matter? Well looking forward to your evidences that Jesus & the apostles didn't find Enoch as inspired !
@@DavidWilberBlog Is there a scriptural reference that shows this? I need to understand where this is. You've answered lots of other people's comments and questions. This is important for us to know.
I have demonstrated it many times in my many articles and videos I have done on the topic. I'm not going to rehash everything I've already said elsewhere in a comment. If you're genuinely curious, go see the resources I've produced that answers your questions.
Do you know paleo hebrew i