My one major complaint was the finale, and the fact that they didn’t elaborate on the awesome concept of the Water Tribe Civil War and instead opted for a really drawn out Spirit World arc that could’ve been a lot better. Otherwise it’s not terrible.
Yeah, honestly I would have been all in on a civil war just happening at the same time that court has to stop, either before or after fighting this Kaiju. Or hell, that fight stops the war. By the way it works
Korra is a great show if you’re not picky, Avatar is the better of the two overall imo. It more of a complete story beginning to end as opposed to Korra which feels more like a classic superhero show
I think the easiest way to describe Aang is his journey is building himself up from nothing to become the hero the world needs. He’s already humanized when the show starts so it’s easier to relate and bond with. Korra is literally the exact opposite, and that’s not bad. She’s already the hero the world needs, and she knows it and like it, but her journey is humanizing herself so she can be a relatable person. I honestly like that dynamic. Not more than Aang’s journey but still.
@@jonnyrawket8158 That is also true in Korras personality, AANG needs to be more strong headed, he needs to be more sturdy and stubborn, Korra needs to be more easy going, she needs to go with the flow. Aang struggles with earth bending while korra struggles with air bending.
While it wasn't the only thing about season 2 I didn't like, I still partially agree with you. If Korra had lost the previous Avatar spirits like she did, but somehow was able to get them back at, let's say, mid - end season 3 it would have bothered me a lot less. But as it was, be it just nostalgia, a certain amount of grieving, or just liking the previous Avatars, it just seemed like the show went overboard discarding them completely.
@@bluetiger4367 However much you may hate it, you can't deny that that moment showed that this show, even if the hero wins, there WILL be consequences. It really raised the stakes for this show because that moment would always remind us that these writers aren't afraid of making DRASTIC decisions. Honestly, after that point, I was TRULY afraid that some of our main characters could actually die and these stakes were only raised higher with S03 and S04.
@@henrywayne5724 I can give it that. That was a moment where the jaw can touch the floor. Though as I said previously I think that at some point Korra should have gotten the previous Avatar spirits back. I do respect your opinion on the matter though.
Just wished the Jinora light thing was explored further. I always thought that Iroh and the other light Spirits at the Tea party would have a role in that, or maybe imbued her with light spirit energy or something! That part felt forced. But other than that, Book 2 was great!
Not really. It was foreshadowed by Iroh and Unalaq's speech about finding the light in the dark. In fact, Korra did the exact same thing in the spirit world when she let out her own light to illuminate the three dark spirits. Jinora doing that is just proof that this ability isn't exclusive to the Avatar.
Also in book 2 is when Nick started saying "Okay this is your last season if the ratings go lower" or something to that effect, so the creators in every season tried to go big before they inevitably went home.
Tenzin's side story/plot with his siblings was my favorite part of season 2, i really liked aang turning out to be a flawed father because as you said his favouritism for tenzin makes A LOT of sense and i also like how kya said, in summary, that she and bumi would have loved to be part of his vision of continuing the air bender tradition even when they couldnt air bend, they would have loved to help in any way that they could. It makes TOTAL sense.
Admittedly that season wasn’t terrible, but it did have terrible moments, including a horrible setback on Korra’s character arc. However there were some amazing moments like, great world building, amazing additions to the lore, the legend of Avatar Wan, and best of all, it’s better than The Last Airbender movie.
@@NovelVanguard I love Korra’s character arc moving forward from season 3 to season 4. How she went from an angsty superpowered teen to a wise responsible avatar
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 I don't remember if they have ever interacted, but I guess they'd make for an aesthetically pleasing couple. I still prefer Korra and Asami. Hell, out of the brothers, Bolin was the better pick.
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 I mean, I guess? On paper I guess it makes sense, I just would have loved to see them interact. That might just make me ship them. I mean he -seems- like an absolute gentleman who would treat her right, but (and I had to check to be sure, since I had a hunch), Iroh is significantly older than team Avatar... I mean he was 36, and while Asami at the very least was 18, but an 8 year age gap is still... not really that attractive to me..? At least, again, not on paper.
YESSSS 100% agree. For me, Aang was the perfect example for me at age 12. He taught me the importance of patience, empathy, kindness over rage, peace. Honestly the series made me hate war and totalitarianism within all governments, including our own. Korra was the hero I needed when I was 18 (when it came out) to 22 when the series ended. It taught me what it should be like being a young adult. It taught me about trauma, PTSD, unobtainable goals and views of myself. It showed me that persevering against your mental disabilities didn't mean you were cured, but instead brave. She taught me to be brave as the world attacked me on all sides. Both Avatars were the Avatars I needed at the time. And I love that their ages matched mine perfectly. I am so grateful for the story of Korra. And of Aang of course. The ugly, the messy, the bad. OG ATLA also had bad episodes. As long as their legacies persevere, I'm okay. May their stories inspire 12 year olds and 21 years olds for generations to come.
The fact most people don't realize is the story of the first avatar was originally made for avatar the last airbender when roku explains the avatar state. They decided not to use it then and just re-used it in korra, so for the people who hate on it they are kinda hating on the last airbender
@@kayplaya86 im not saying you, its more towards the people who complain about it because it takes away the mystery and saying it contradicts already known fact when it doesnt
My problem with season 2 is mostly is that it almost felt like they were making it up as they go half the time? Like seasons 3 and 4 felt far more planned out well whereas season 2 felt like "OH CRAP WE THOUGHT WE HAD 1 SEASON ONLY, WHAT NOW?!" and they scrambled to make this while not given enough time for the first half of the season. Like the transition from season 1 to 2 is kinda sloppy and bizarre. Whole thing was worth it for Varrick and the two parter Avatar origin story though.
I also believe that part of the reason Aang wasnt a great father to all of his kids is because he had no parents, therefore he had no real way of modeling his own parenting style after anyone or any past experience where he would have learnt what being a parent entailed. It reminds me of how Naruto turned out, everyone expected both Naruto and Aang to become great parents but they didnt simply because they never had any themselves growing up so they were completely clueless.
I think that might also be because Air Nomads seem to use the it take a village approach to parenting. It appears to be the job of all the monks to raise the young airbenders which they all were. So everything he experienced was from the perspective of airbender training. Its a shame he didn't realise he could share his culture with his other children because I feel Kya in particular would have loved to learn about it and Bumi well time with his dad would have been enough.
i didnt mind the actual plot, but the cutting of the connection got me. why couldnt raava re-establish the connection when she was brought back to life? why cant she use the avatar state, even the first avatar could, if we are going off the idea that it was raava helping him. also, it doesnt really make sense that she wouldnt go into the spirit world even IF the connection was broken- all of the past avatars have their own lives in the spirit world, it might take some work, but they do exist and she could find them and re-establish the connection herself. it just kinda felt like a thing they just randomly threw in tbh. other than that, this show and this book were all amazing! (except for a few things but no show can be perfect) i am going to edit this because ik people have different opinions and i would like to hear other people's takes on this. please lmk!
The Raava Korra combined with is a new formation of Raava. She was reborn, along with the way of the world. So Korra is a new cycles Wan, with a stronger spiritual influence as Raava is greater in size than the one that bonded with Wan. Which will likely mean future Avatars contact only those from Korras time(so long as they are apart of her cycle). Meaning the cycle depends entirely on the era in which a given Avatar connects with past lives. Since only those from their era can understand the struggles that are current/up to date.
@@shasta_le_bab if she finds the place in the spirit world were that each Avatars spirit resides. Yes Korra could talk with them. But she won't be connected directly with those from Wans cycle; be able to call upon them in the Avatar state or when it comes to advice automatically(though I'm fine with it as they don't have knowledge of the worlds current state; beside the extent Aang in season 1 had).
To show that this show won't backtrack. A lot of people complained about how S01 ended so conveniently(without considering that this was supposed to be a miniseries), so they put some actual lasting consequences in this one. I love how they stuck with this decision. It really raised the bar in a way ATLA never did. One thing about ATLA is that there was always a certainly that one way or the other, the hero would walk out of the situation unscathed/ if scathed, it would be solved easily. This show really created a certain level of uncertainty with that decision. I didn't expect it and so for the most part of S03 and S04, I was on the edge of my seat. Plus, it really has great thematic value. It was a different age and era. What's the use of looking to a 1000 year old Avatar for guidance in a modern world? This was even explored in ATLA, where at the end of the day, Aang had to make his own choice on killing the Firelord, rather than follow Roku's advice. Plus of you think about it, Roku was only helpful in giving advice to Aang that didn't have to do with the morality of the Avatar's actions. I mean, it was just, "go to my temple for insight on the war, go to Ko to learn about Twi and La, let me explain to you the Avatar State and let me show you how the war began and in some cases, encouraging him not to give up". He never TRULY influenced Aang morally.
Honestly when I heard you say that everyone thought he was a late bloomer I instantly thought about how I instantly said the spirits are helping him there's no way he would bloom that late
I like how all the seasons perfectly carry on to the next season. Season 2 arc was still going strong, in season 4. And season 2 carried on, to the beginning of season 3. and zaheer killing the earth queen, is literally why there's a season 4. And that is Great writing that we can't deny
All we can do is blame Nickelodeon Korra and Asami were supposed to be together from the jump, but homophobia. We were supposed to get 24 episodes a season aswell
One thing i always hate is how people think it "de-asianized, Christianized, or simplified" the mythos Like A-christianity is an asian religion B-its closer to zorastrianism. Christianity isnt dualistic. It just has A bad guy. Hes definetely weaker than God, and canonically loses in the end C-bad and good are not simple concepts in the slightest lmao E-theyre not the only spirits. Not the oldest spirits. They're just old and powerful spirits Oh and e. Yin. And. Yang.
I would have felt better if vaatu and rava were more like yin and yang like they need each other for there to be balance and its weird because rava says repeatedly and so does unalaq that there needs to be both light and darkness for balance to be achieved but they just ignore that by continually saying vaatu is pure evil like WTH. I think it would have been better if avatar wan had fused with both rava and vaatu and thats what made the avatar spirit and then unalaq would have found a way, with better motivation, to release vaatu from the fusion or maybe instead rava even because lets say he also wants to become the avatar after finding out what exactly makes the avatar the avatar.
Weakest/'worst' doesn't necessarily mean terrible. I always come back to the same thing whenever LoK is negatively criticised, that Nick poorly treated the show. Honestly, that fact makes me appreciate the show more because despite the limitations, they were able to produce a show that was still genuinely great for what it was.
While I don't think the first avatar was the best part of the series, it's probably somewhere in the top 5. For me the best part of the series, by far, was Varik. Rarely, if ever, did I not enjoy it when he was onscreen.
I disagree. The villains were the worst and Korra was at her very worst going from lashing out to her father, to lashing out to her uncle, to lashing out at people who not only want the best for her, but try to get her to think more reasonably. The final battle as well is by far I think the worst final battle in both ALTA and LOK combined. Other battles were far more epic and emotional.
I love legend of Korra book 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 I love legend of Korra it's my favorite just like how I love avatar The Last Airbender book 1 and 2 and 3
Ok, hear me out, the reason I hate book 2 has nothing to do with bandwagoning with online hate, I have ideas on why people would hate it, but had no idea there was genuine community hate for the season. The reason I hated it was because it had SOOO much potential, they had so many good ideas, but they didn’t deliver. Like if the villain was an actual character who helped Korra through her spiritual avatar journey, and made the conflict purely societal it would be so much better. That way it ends up going better with season 4 where she feels like she failed everyone as an Avatar. There’s much more to be said, like with the spiritual world building and how Team Avatar had no moments together, but it isn’t nearly as important.
Book 2 definitely had some good parts. Tenzin’s arc was probably my favorite part of book 2.I’m conflicted because we get to see the first avatar and the spiritual death of him as well in the same book. Overall Book 2 is not the worst but it’s not my favorite.
Really? The way he gained Korras trust, truly seemed like a good mentor at first, the manipulating, the way he brought in his troops, the war- I digged that.
100%. Everyone I know actually stopped watching Kora after season 2. I didn't watch it until last year and was so surprised to find that there was more than 2 seasons 😅
The Dalai Lama himself has spoken about this life being his last incarnation, and that maybe there shouldn't be another Dalai Lama after him. Maybe the show was referencing this when they "cancelled" the Avatar state? Still, they could have handled it way better, it did feel unexpected and clunky. =/
Season 2 was great, we got a deep look how the avatar was created, showing the lion turtles, even showing how earth kingdom, fire nation, air nation and water Tribe were created, side note I think the swamp benders were from avatar wan time, I would think the water benders moved to south and north poles while some stayed in their original land, learning about spirits how the physical and spiritual world are created. its just watching all the avatars die really puts a sour note on season 2 especially when the next season we see the revival of air benders, where I really felt aang could of connected with korra so he too could see the revival of his nation.
I don’t think it was great. The Beginnings episodes were great, and the spirits acting up was interesting. After the Beginnings episodes though, it went downhill when they turned Unalaq into a moustache-twirling villain, who’s motivation makes absolutely no sense. It became a generic story.
Besides the Beginnings episodes, the civil war, and the spirits acting up being the most interesting elements of the season, it all was reduced to a generic story of a hero stopping the darkness from being unleashed by a moustache twirling villain. The finale is easily the most anti-climactic of all the finales in the Avatar universe.
@@varunbhat2077 Wrong. ALTA was not only this. It was also a complex story about coming to grips with what you have done, and how you can make everything right again. It is also about how people can be capable of great good and great evil. It was not at all generic. You are just saying that to make me look foolish. On the other hand, Season 2 of Korra was about stopping some guy who thought that the whole universe should be in darkness. So unless he was mind-controlled by Vaatu before getting possessed by him, I don't see how he could just become so infatuated with him. Let's not even get started on that fucking love triangle either.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 No. The main plot of ATLA was Aang mastering all 4 elements and defeating the evil Fire Lord. But I know it was much more than that. Similarly, season 2 was much more than saving the world from 10,000 years of darkness. Korra had her spiritual growth and defeated Vaatu spirotually. Korra defeated Vaatu, not as Avatar but as Korra. This was important because Korra's whole identity was just being the Avatar and not being Korra. Korra defeated Unalaq & Vaatu using Unalaq's own spirit bending technique.
@@varunbhat2077 And they just rushed through it. Did I also say that what I addressed was the main plot? I talked about how ALTA had complex themes that enriched the main plot. I said it was not only what the main plot was? Please read more thoroughly, instead of jump to stupid conclusions like many insufferable half-wits do. What is going through your head? All you are doing is making half-assed arguments to excuse the bad things of this season. They had Unalaq, do one evil thing after the next just to dash to the finish line. He was established as a sort of sympathetic character, who then suddenly becomes infatuated with the darkness for some reason. Ozai was basically an evil man whose evil deeds are passed down from his forefathers, and someone with a jealousy complex. Besides that, we also get one of the worst love triangles ever and Korra turning quickly from a peacemaker to a big Northern Water Tribe hater just because of her uncle.
I love book 2 and I have a fanfiction on Wattpad (The Legend of Jasmine) about the earth Avatar being a non-bender for the first 16 years of her life because of an attempt by Avatar Korra to unlock the past lives by releasing her spirit and dying at a very young age. There is a lot of Emphasis on how much the events of book 2 shaped Korra and her view on being the Avatar. There's a part where Asami is talking to Jasmine discussing how much of Korra regretted staking her identity on being the Avatar for so much of her life. Jasmine counters with "She WAS the Avatar" and Asami's response is "That was her job- not who she was as an individual" I also play around with Vattu (whose presence in Ravaa was the real reason the past lives were inaccessible) not necessarily being the pure evil incarnate he was depicted as in book 2 but rather 1 half of true balance in the world.
Man book 2 was TEAAAAA ! idc what NOBODY say! I wish it was longer honestly! Vaatu and Raava and the duality of them was so misunderstood she just got her butt whooped too much to me lol only bad thing
No, it's just bad. The arc is not interesting enough. Dark spirit this , dark spirit that. Full grown Avatar being used by the villain easily. Creating her own enemy, loosing a bunch of power by making horrible mistakes due to lack of knowledge, and in the end, making the same mistake again by leaving the spirit portal open. People having difficulties by their own shortcoming is nothing admirable or interesting, it's just incompetency. people having difficulties due to hardship in life which they have no control over is much more interesting. It's one thing where you nerf down all of the characters in order to create conflict, it's another when the characters are good and noble but are faced with interesting and hard to resolve dilemma. For example, Aang, he was made to be a bad parent. Why is that? Because he's a bad person now? Where's the dire situation where he has no choice but to become a bad parent is? Where's the sacrifice decision? Someone is just automatically bad without any reason is not interesting, it's bad writing. Does he feel sorry for his negligence? What's the reaction? Did his kids never express this to him? If they expressed it, would he have just ignored them? And yes, Aang would've not neglect his 2 other children for their entire life just to groom Tenzin into an heir for his culture. Favoring Tenzin, yes, ignoring the other 2 without showing them love, no. You see, what they wrote can be good, if what they wrote has a story behind it. They're just like, oh, now Aang's a bad parent because we need an arc revolving around his children warming up to each other. Nobody is inherently bad, behind a good villain is a hero in their own story. So if Aang is made to be this negligent father, where's the reason for it? That's why Book 2 is bad, not because of what was written, it's that what was written has no interesting story behind it.
I watched LOK when it aired and now re-watching it to discover why I hated it in the first place. I do agree with Tom that season 2 is definitely a development for Korra because she thinks she has everything under control, and it's like most adolescent year when you think you can handle the world (in my case; I felt like that a lot) when you really don't know what you're doing even now. I hated it because it hit too close to home and I hated my past self and I hated that Korra was thinking things through properly. How would Korra know what to do when she's been told different stories from people she trusted? The communication lacked and there were manipulations. The love triangle was unnecessary at best. imo.
I saw somewhere that the main reason people hate Korra is that it's not because it's a bad show by any means, but because Korra embodies character traits we HATE to have. While with ATLA, you couldn't relate to most of the main characters, with Korra, you UNNERVINGLY did, and this is at its peak when portraying her depression and anxiety in Book 4. ATLA had an escapism aspect to it but with Korra, things hit close to home, take for instance the police brutality and curfew in Republic City...
Personally, I do think it's the weakest season, but that doesn't automatically make it awful. Maybe it's how much I relate to Korra, maybe it's nostalgia, I don't know, but I think the whole show deserves a lot more praise. I feel like I could write an essay on it but I don't have the brain power for that right now.
I'm not trying to be biased here. But, Book Two decreased my interest in LOK as I finished the series. It was very unfocused, poorly paced, and featured many unnecessary plot points, such as the Dark Avatar thing. Even Korra got a bit annoying and so did Varrick.
Everyone I know that watched Kora stopped watching after season 2. I watched it for the first time last year and was blown away that there were actually 4 seasons not just 2 😅 after watching book 2 I completely understood.
I think severing the connection to the past avatars was needed because at some point after atla it was going to be reset Korra becoming the first avatar of the next cycle is pretty chill and her losing the connection isn't even her fault
The single thing I think Season 2 did better was Varrick. I liked him as a shifty, manipulative villain hiding himself as comic relief until the reveal. The later seasons just made him into a cringy comic relief and gave him a half-assed redemption story.
I honestly understand and agree with a lot of what was said. What I do disagree is Mako's situation; when watching season 2 I honestly agreed with Mako. Korra was taking a more hot headed approach.With ditching Tenzin, and actively trying to pick a her father's side, when it clearly wasn't the right way to do things. She shouldn't have taken sides. but I do agree and understand the kind of pressure she was going through. The relationships (aside from Bolin and Opal imo) were not good at all. The first season I could let it slide as it was hard to fit so much in the episodes they had, but it was just dumb to have it all quickly fall apart in season 2. The loss of the past Avatars was also just stupid. It made sense, as Unalaq effectively killed Raava, but there had to have been some way to reconnect with Korra's past lives. There was a lot of potential having Korra be able to communicate and speak to other avatars to seek help on how to deal with threats. like Zaheer, Kuvira, and even Unalaq.
That's the thing. I highly doubt the past lives would've offered much guidance. Korra was living at the peak of the Industrial Age and even Aang didn't need the past lives when dealing with The Fire Lord. What's the point of asking a caveman how to build an airplane? And also, while Korra's decisions weren't the best, I understand where she was coming from. She WANTS to be the Avatar, for the first time in her life, she is all in, both physical and spiritual. A threat comes up and she requires the spiritual, and the ones who kept her LOCKED UP all in the name of her protection can't even help her. Then comes a smooth talking family member who has the solutions to ALL her problems and is actually loved by his people a lot. Would you, honestly speaking, have stuck with Tenzin and Tonraq if you were in Korra's shoes, especially with the spiritual chaos getting worse and worse? Her decision is only made worse by the fact that she is brash and temperamental, but at the end of the day, I would've made the same decision. Her finding out that she doesn't know much at all was really satisfying, when she apologized to Tenzin especially, and that Unalaq had been manipulating her all along.
Why is Korea fighting colored shapes, remember when the spirit world was mysterious and nightmarish. It was bad. The final battle was wack, We want choreography and skill not a giant fight with blasts. The season was bad and legend of Korra as whole was complete downgrade from avatar both is story, developed characters, main character was annoying, writing wasn’t cohesive, wasn’t funny. Fighting became cheap. I can go on
Ugghh, can I still have my opinion it was bad? I like the animation but that was pretty much it. I feel like saying more will just end up with me being flamed.
VERY unpopular opinion, but i think the relationship issues in korra are valuable. they remind me that theyre just kids struggling with communication and relationships. in season 1-3 theyre basically high school seniors who are JUST transitioning into the adult world but still having very turbulent emotions and not really knowing how to handle them well. my love life and relationships were also incredibly messy around their age, but then in season 4 when theyre all about 20 i can tell how they've emotionally matured. its subtle they very clearly have grown up
I just going to say this before I have watched the video, and will post a reply in response to the video after. Legend of Korra season two suffered heavily from so many different things. It had a new animation studio, that normally makes anime, that wasn't prepared for the extreme demands of the show, which caused animation to suffer. It was put online only so that greatly limited its reach and I presume resources to use in the show. However, the thing that I think really kills season 2 is that it was really disappointing, with enough bad to outweigh its good parts. Now, I could talk about how Unalaq was just a bad villain, but I think the greater betrayal was the story. Its starts off so good to, with it setting up so many great ideas and questions for Korra. With the Water tribe civil war, Korra was conflicted, she was trying to stay neutral because she thought that was the best choice for her as the Avatar, but she was also a southern water tribe member. She was looking for a way to do solve these conflicts without picking a side, but she couldn't. To paraphrase Korra's mother, those conflicts between the North and the South existed long before she was born so maybe there was nothing she could or should do. It was really cool seeing her question what her role as the Avatar is, which is a common theme most notably shared through Tenzin. Tenzin is also struggles with his role, feeling that he is failing as a spiritual guide because he can't get to the spirit world, with Korra even dismissing him because of this. This honestly sets up what, to me at least, is the most interesting character arc in the show (besides maybe Korra in season 3-4). This honestly where my praise of this season ends, and I can honestly point to two decisions made in the show, the creation of Raava and Vaatu, and the destruction of the past Avatars. This to me destroys a couple core concepts to the Avatar world and what the Avatar is. Now, the destruction of the past Avatars I think was just a really bad story decision that cuts off so many possibilities, not adding anything to the story, just taking it away. The real crime is with the spirits. By making Raava all good and Vaatu all bad, they take away the blue and orange morality of the spirits. Now, I'm sure some would say, "But they aren't just good and evil, they are like Yin and Yang", to which I say, yes the show did say that, but they didn't show that. Now, I just realized that I am repeating a lot of stuff from Hello Future Me's Legend of Korra's 'Beginnings' | An Overdue Critique, so if you want to know basically what I was going to say, just watch that. In total, season 2 was just really disappointing, with little payoff for the themes it was trying to explore, weakening the shows world, and making decisions that felt almost like a betrayal. While season 2 is bad even when viewed isolated from the rest of Avatar, it was made worse because we had higher expectations for Avatar and season 2 was just so much worse than any other season.
Unpopular opinion I didn't care for the Wan episodes. Yes it was nice seeing the Avatars origins but it totally reconned everything we have learned in Atla.
Part of why people think it's so bad is because it isnt different though. It's very typical of the average story beats of most shows out there, which to people who are older and have more exposure to media, makes it bland and predictable at best. People liked Avatar because it was different, so being different from avatar just makes you like everything else.
@Selim Mašić Lol, not at all. Show A and Show B can both deviate from the common tropes of the time and still be completely different from each other. Like how Strawberry and Chocolate ice cream are both very different from Vanilla, but also different from each other. That's not what happened though. Not trying to say whether or not your thoughts on Kora being good/bad are right/wrong, just that while it may be different from Avatar, it's a very typical and predictable show for our time. It follows a lot of tropes and clichés that are common in modern media, so when you say "it's just different," you're not wrong that it's different from Avatar, it definitely is, but you're not right in saying that it's different from the average show. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, Marvel made bank off of these kinds of tropes and people loved those movies, but it is why a lot of people were disappointed by Kora.
I agree with you. Book 2 gave us a lot moving forward. I, like you think it is because 3 major events occured. Wan, destroying of past lives, hermongic convergence. The Civil War plot seems to just be a way of moving story forward though as it wasn't givin the time it deserves x
What I liked the most about season 2 LOK was the civil war arc. The manipulation, intrigues, slowly escalating tensions, Varrick, propaganda, the possibility of foreign intervention- that was excellent.
i don't get the people who aggressively hate LoK, even book 2. i understand that it's not the best show it could have been, but it's far from unwatchable. i see it as a good show that was kept from being great because of studio bullshit.
I don’t think season 2 of korra isn’t bad but it’s definitely the worst season of korra in my opinion. It felt like there was no direction. We had dark spirits then movies, then police, then spirit world then more dark spirits then wan then finally THE Dark spirit. Also the avatar past lives got severed and that was a major thing that made me not like the season that much. Season 1, 3 and 4 all had one thing that they stuck to. And season 2 didn’t really have that to me. It was good for what it was and honestly the dark avatar is a fucking awesome concept, but it was done horribly. Overall season 2 of korra wasn’t that bad at all, Wans story actually saved the season for me. But comparing it to season 1, 3 and 4, it was by far the worse season. I actually think it’s the worse season out of both ATLA and TLOK. But I don’t think it’s a horrible season. It’s enjoyable, just not on the level of the other seasons of both shows
season 2 could have been good if they just would have stick with Water Tribe Civil War but instead they went to drawn out the spirts witch just ruin the season as a whole.
If it weren't for the character development, I would say most of korra could be written off. The story felt predictable and child korra in book four was my second least favorite part of korra next to Kaiju battle of book two, followed by amnesia love triangle in third.
I would love for the dark avatar to return,it could steal earth,fire,and air from benders.Also avatar smackdowns,the Whitelotus searching and figureing out which is which,and so many possibilities
First of all, I love this video it was well thought out and interesting. I think we can all agree book 2 was the least favourite but honestly LOK in general isn't as bad as people say it was. I just have a problem with some of the storylines in book 2, like how they made her loose her connection to her past lives(making her look weak 😧) as result Zaheer and Kuvira had the guts to still challenge her in the Avatar state like wth who born you 😂. And just how book 2 wasn't really thought out as much.
@@dumebi_ne The same reason why they had to make all the Airbenders dead in ATLA. It served a purpose in the story. If you see season 3 and 4, this allowed Korra to grow. Plus, it served as a long-lasting consequence of Unalaq/Vaatu's actions.
@@varunbhat2077 Yes makes perfect sense but it felt like such a huge consequence to pay. I think it was because it very hard hitting that fans felt it was unnecessary.
@@varunbhat2077 Truthfully, I absolutely agree it made her grow as an individual and as the avatar especially in the last season which is one of my favorites especially that conversation she had with Tenzin. 😭❤️
Killed aang and paste avatars can't make me love a character like that and kill them was totally hoping for this avatar come back it never came and it left me kinda sad that aang wouldn't exist in future stories. Not that I disliked the spirit plot just that was unnecessary could have totally had aang and past lives around.
I think you made some solid points but I think that aang wouldn’t have fallen into favoritism and even if he did there is absolutely no way that Katara would’ve let aang do that. I think they also made a massive mistake that they in showing how the avatar came to be. I’d rate korra book 2 a 4/10. I enjoyed this video, I really like hear what you thought about book 2
Honestly book 2 is my favorite season I like the raava and vaatu lore and the last 3 episodes has my favorite fight scenes and unnalaq wasn't that bad even though he's just a waterbending ozai Honestly the only thing I don't like about season 2 is the love triangle and losing past lives it was a powerful moment but I wished they reversed it by the end. Also I love the kaiju battle best fight
I never hated book 2 I just found it lacking. I still enjoyed it plenty.
Not terrible. 4/10 imo
He rest of the show is amazing tho
@@kehindehopkins6933 nah 7/10 at least
I like book two I just hate it’s finally because it’s so sad
Yh me too,
I didn't think it was bad, it was interesting to see the avatar's origins
Yes and i love the origins of the avatar. I wish there was a big army of people mixing with different spirits to become different avatars.
The only thing I didn't like was the art? But the animation and style for the avatar origin was beautiful
@@spritemon98 I think the art was amazing
@@kayplaya86 the art wasn't good in most of the shots
@@spritemon98 well I just watched it this month and I remember it being great
My one major complaint was the finale, and the fact that they didn’t elaborate on the awesome concept of the Water Tribe Civil War and instead opted for a really drawn out Spirit World arc that could’ve been a lot better.
Otherwise it’s not terrible.
Plus they had done, " Oh no both water tribes fight." In a comic of the og series.
@@priestshrek3738 pretty sure North and South came after korra season 2
@@undergalaxy775 oh
I agree
Yeah, honestly I would have been all in on a civil war just happening at the same time that court has to stop, either before or after fighting this Kaiju. Or hell, that fight stops the war. By the way it works
Korra is a great show if you’re not picky, Avatar is the better of the two overall imo. It more of a complete story beginning to end as opposed to Korra which feels more like a classic superhero show
I think the easiest way to describe Aang is his journey is building himself up from nothing to become the hero the world needs. He’s already humanized when the show starts so it’s easier to relate and bond with. Korra is literally the exact opposite, and that’s not bad. She’s already the hero the world needs, and she knows it and like it, but her journey is humanizing herself so she can be a relatable person. I honestly like that dynamic. Not more than Aang’s journey but still.
Honestly I kinda like korra better
@@jonnyrawket8158 That is also true in Korras personality, AANG needs to be more strong headed, he needs to be more sturdy and stubborn, Korra needs to be more easy going, she needs to go with the flow. Aang struggles with earth bending while korra struggles with air bending.
@SpiderSketches what does stfu stand for
@@jonnyrawket8158 Basically, Korra's journey is more bildungsroman and Buddha-like while Aang is a classic hero's journey.
But we do have to admit this season gave us AMAZING waterbending
The only thing that bothered me about season 2 was Korra losing her connection to the other Avatars.
While it wasn't the only thing about season 2 I didn't like, I still partially agree with you. If Korra had lost the previous Avatar spirits like she did, but somehow was able to get them back at, let's say, mid - end season 3 it would have bothered me a lot less. But as it was, be it just nostalgia, a certain amount of grieving, or just liking the previous Avatars, it just seemed like the show went overboard discarding them completely.
@@bluetiger4367 However much you may hate it, you can't deny that that moment showed that this show, even if the hero wins, there WILL be consequences. It really raised the stakes for this show because that moment would always remind us that these writers aren't afraid of making DRASTIC decisions. Honestly, after that point, I was TRULY afraid that some of our main characters could actually die and these stakes were only raised higher with S03 and S04.
@@henrywayne5724 I can give it that. That was a moment where the jaw can touch the floor. Though as I said previously I think that at some point Korra should have gotten the previous Avatar spirits back. I do respect your opinion on the matter though.
No different from Obi-Wan dying.
It is a part of the story. Why would that make you dislike season 2?
Wish the show gotten more potential,but that's nicks fault
Legend of Korra is a perspective of the avatar world not needing the avatar anymore compare to avatar the last airbender the world needed aang
That's a good point,bro💯
Dude is korra not korea
Yeah no aang had he's time, korra time for her to more her own identity as her own avatar
@@nathanaelmeikle8196 It's probably autocorrect you know how shitty that thing is
Legend of Korea 😂. LOL auto correct
Just wished the Jinora light thing was explored further. I always thought that Iroh and the other light Spirits at the Tea party would have a role in that, or maybe imbued her with light spirit energy or something! That part felt forced. But other than that, Book 2 was great!
Not really. It was foreshadowed by Iroh and Unalaq's speech about finding the light in the dark. In fact, Korra did the exact same thing in the spirit world when she let out her own light to illuminate the three dark spirits. Jinora doing that is just proof that this ability isn't exclusive to the Avatar.
@@vetarlittorf1807 its how I, and a lot of reactors felt when it happened. 🤷🏻♂️
Also in book 2 is when Nick started saying "Okay this is your last season if the ratings go lower" or something to that effect, so the creators in every season tried to go big before they inevitably went home.
Tenzin's side story/plot with his siblings was my favorite part of season 2, i really liked aang turning out to be a flawed father because as you said his favouritism for tenzin makes A LOT of sense and i also like how kya said, in summary, that she and bumi would have loved to be part of his vision of continuing the air bender tradition even when they couldnt air bend, they would have loved to help in any way that they could. It makes TOTAL sense.
Admittedly that season wasn’t terrible, but it did have terrible moments, including a horrible setback on Korra’s character arc. However there were some amazing moments like, great world building, amazing additions to the lore, the legend of Avatar Wan, and best of all, it’s better than The Last Airbender movie.
McAwesomeYT Yo yes thank u it and korras character arc wasn't that bad it wasn't good by any means but I'd give it a eh
Tbh it’s average at best
@@NovelVanguard I love Korra’s character arc moving forward from season 3 to season 4. How she went from an angsty superpowered teen to a wise responsible avatar
are we going to mention that Korra becomes Ultraman
McAwesomeYT Yo Totally agree with you on that point
With how truly supportive Asami has been, imagine how season 2 would've gone if Asami had been her girlfriend at that point....
Personally I think she and Iroh(Zuko's grandson)should've hooked up
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 I don't remember if they have ever interacted, but I guess they'd make for an aesthetically pleasing couple. I still prefer Korra and Asami. Hell, out of the brothers, Bolin was the better pick.
@@yomommah6866 Books 1&2 plus Iroh being fire nation royalty and all the industries and Asami a genius there they are a perfect match
@@crimsonmoonrise9785 I mean, I guess? On paper I guess it makes sense, I just would have loved to see them interact. That might just make me ship them. I mean he -seems- like an absolute gentleman who would treat her right, but (and I had to check to be sure, since I had a hunch), Iroh is significantly older than team Avatar... I mean he was 36, and while Asami at the very least was 18, but an 8 year age gap is still... not really that attractive to me..? At least, again, not on paper.
@@yomommah6866 I thought he was mid-20s
YESSSS 100% agree. For me, Aang was the perfect example for me at age 12. He taught me the importance of patience, empathy, kindness over rage, peace. Honestly the series made me hate war and totalitarianism within all governments, including our own.
Korra was the hero I needed when I was 18 (when it came out) to 22 when the series ended. It taught me what it should be like being a young adult. It taught me about trauma, PTSD, unobtainable goals and views of myself. It showed me that persevering against your mental disabilities didn't mean you were cured, but instead brave. She taught me to be brave as the world attacked me on all sides.
Both Avatars were the Avatars I needed at the time. And I love that their ages matched mine perfectly. I am so grateful for the story of Korra. And of Aang of course. The ugly, the messy, the bad. OG ATLA also had bad episodes. As long as their legacies persevere, I'm okay. May their stories inspire 12 year olds and 21 years olds for generations to come.
The fact most people don't realize is the story of the first avatar was originally made for avatar the last airbender when roku explains the avatar state. They decided not to use it then and just re-used it in korra, so for the people who hate on it they are kinda hating on the last airbender
context is key
I don't hate it it's very interesting and for soooo long I was curious about the first avatar and how they became the avatar
@@kayplaya86 im not saying you, its more towards the people who complain about it because it takes away the mystery and saying it contradicts already known fact when it doesnt
@@josephditomaso5481 man those people are probably conspiracy theorists that want to keep making theories and don't want an explanation to stop them
@@kayplaya86 either that or they just don't like korra
My problem with season 2 is mostly is that it almost felt like they were making it up as they go half the time? Like seasons 3 and 4 felt far more planned out well whereas season 2 felt like "OH CRAP WE THOUGHT WE HAD 1 SEASON ONLY, WHAT NOW?!" and they scrambled to make this while not given enough time for the first half of the season. Like the transition from season 1 to 2 is kinda sloppy and bizarre.
Whole thing was worth it for Varrick and the two parter Avatar origin story though.
Nickelodeon is the major reason why the show is not on the same level as the last airbender.
I also believe that part of the reason Aang wasnt a great father to all of his kids is because he had no parents, therefore he had no real way of modeling his own parenting style after anyone or any past experience where he would have learnt what being a parent entailed. It reminds me of how Naruto turned out, everyone expected both Naruto and Aang to become great parents but they didnt simply because they never had any themselves growing up so they were completely clueless.
He’s a terrible father to his kids agreeded
I think that might also be because Air Nomads seem to use the it take a village approach to parenting. It appears to be the job of all the monks to raise the young airbenders which they all were. So everything he experienced was from the perspective of airbender training. Its a shame he didn't realise he could share his culture with his other children because I feel Kya in particular would have loved to learn about it and Bumi well time with his dad would have been enough.
i didnt mind the actual plot, but the cutting of the connection got me. why couldnt raava re-establish the connection when she was brought back to life? why cant she use the avatar state, even the first avatar could, if we are going off the idea that it was raava helping him. also, it doesnt really make sense that she wouldnt go into the spirit world even IF the connection was broken- all of the past avatars have their own lives in the spirit world, it might take some work, but they do exist and she could find them and re-establish the connection herself. it just kinda felt like a thing they just randomly threw in tbh. other than that, this show and this book were all amazing! (except for a few things but no show can be perfect)
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The Raava Korra combined with is a new formation of Raava. She was reborn, along with the way of the world. So Korra is a new cycles Wan, with a stronger spiritual influence as Raava is greater in size than the one that bonded with Wan. Which will likely mean future Avatars contact only those from Korras time(so long as they are apart of her cycle). Meaning the cycle depends entirely on the era in which a given Avatar connects with past lives. Since only those from their era can understand the struggles that are current/up to date.
@@jonathanjohnson6727 wouldnt she still be able to contact the past avatars? they still exist in the spirit world.
@@shasta_le_bab if she finds the place in the spirit world were that each Avatars spirit resides. Yes Korra could talk with them. But she won't be connected directly with those from Wans cycle; be able to call upon them in the Avatar state or when it comes to advice automatically(though I'm fine with it as they don't have knowledge of the worlds current state; beside the extent Aang in season 1 had).
To show that this show won't backtrack. A lot of people complained about how S01 ended so conveniently(without considering that this was supposed to be a miniseries), so they put some actual lasting consequences in this one. I love how they stuck with this decision. It really raised the bar in a way ATLA never did. One thing about ATLA is that there was always a certainly that one way or the other, the hero would walk out of the situation unscathed/ if scathed, it would be solved easily. This show really created a certain level of uncertainty with that decision. I didn't expect it and so for the most part of S03 and S04, I was on the edge of my seat.
Plus, it really has great thematic value. It was a different age and era. What's the use of looking to a 1000 year old Avatar for guidance in a modern world? This was even explored in ATLA, where at the end of the day, Aang had to make his own choice on killing the Firelord, rather than follow Roku's advice. Plus of you think about it, Roku was only helpful in giving advice to Aang that didn't have to do with the morality of the Avatar's actions. I mean, it was just, "go to my temple for insight on the war, go to Ko to learn about Twi and La, let me explain to you the Avatar State and let me show you how the war began and in some cases, encouraging him not to give up". He never TRULY influenced Aang morally.
They did Mako dirty. They just shit on his character
The fact that I am not the only one who thinks season 2 wasn't that bad is a relief.
Honestly when I heard you say that everyone thought he was a late bloomer I instantly thought about how I instantly said the spirits are helping him there's no way he would bloom that late
I like how all the seasons perfectly carry on to the next season. Season 2 arc was still going strong, in season 4. And season 2 carried on, to the beginning of season 3. and zaheer killing the earth queen, is literally why there's a season 4. And that is Great writing that we can't deny
All we can do is blame Nickelodeon
Korra and Asami were supposed to be together from the jump, but homophobia.
We were supposed to get 24 episodes a season aswell
One thing i always hate is how people think it "de-asianized, Christianized, or simplified" the mythos
Like
A-christianity is an asian religion
B-its closer to zorastrianism. Christianity isnt dualistic. It just has A bad guy. Hes definetely weaker than God, and canonically loses in the end
C-bad and good are not simple concepts in the slightest lmao
E-theyre not the only spirits. Not the oldest spirits. They're just old and powerful spirits
Oh and e. Yin. And. Yang.
Exactly, this bothers me too. Dualism isn’t western, it’s a framework in cultures all over the world.
I would have felt better if vaatu and rava were more like yin and yang like they need each other for there to be balance and its weird because rava says repeatedly and so does unalaq that there needs to be both light and darkness for balance to be achieved but they just ignore that by continually saying vaatu is pure evil like WTH. I think it would have been better if avatar wan had fused with both rava and vaatu and thats what made the avatar spirit and then unalaq would have found a way, with better motivation, to release vaatu from the fusion or maybe instead rava even because lets say he also wants to become the avatar after finding out what exactly makes the avatar the avatar.
Weakest/'worst' doesn't necessarily mean terrible. I always come back to the same thing whenever LoK is negatively criticised, that Nick poorly treated the show. Honestly, that fact makes me appreciate the show more because despite the limitations, they were able to produce a show that was still genuinely great for what it was.
I literally loved book 2 so I’m confused
same
Me too! Most of the criticisms thrown at book 2 are misconceptions or misinterpretations or misunderstandings.
Same, I guess it's because I'm a pisces hahaha
I don’t hate book two I just think it’s very lacking but Korra creating a new cycle is sick
In my opinion the first avatar made me really happy. I think it's the best part about the whole series
While I don't think the first avatar was the best part of the series, it's probably somewhere in the top 5. For me the best part of the series, by far, was Varik. Rarely, if ever, did I not enjoy it when he was onscreen.
thank you for defending book 2 of legend of korra
I personally loved Book 2, its villains, Korra, Tenzin and Jinora in it, Beginnings, Raava and Vaatu and the epic finale.
I disagree. The villains were the worst and Korra was at her very worst going from lashing out to her father, to lashing out to her uncle, to lashing out at people who not only want the best for her, but try to get her to think more reasonably. The final battle as well is by far I think the worst final battle in both ALTA and LOK combined. Other battles were far more epic and emotional.
I Liked Legend of Korra
I love legend of Korra book 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 I love legend of Korra it's my favorite just like how I love avatar The Last Airbender book 1 and 2 and 3
Ok, hear me out, the reason I hate book 2 has nothing to do with bandwagoning with online hate, I have ideas on why people would hate it, but had no idea there was genuine community hate for the season. The reason I hated it was because it had SOOO much potential, they had so many good ideas, but they didn’t deliver. Like if the villain was an actual character who helped Korra through her spiritual avatar journey, and made the conflict purely societal it would be so much better. That way it ends up going better with season 4 where she feels like she failed everyone as an Avatar. There’s much more to be said, like with the spiritual world building and how Team Avatar had no moments together, but it isn’t nearly as important.
I’m so sorry for the long comment, but you say “and I want to hear yours” at the end of every video so... here are my thoughts.
I just don’t like the ending of the show it was just out of nowhere
Bruh legend of Korra is not bad, it's a great series but not too too great. But It's still nostalgic, I watched it growing up.
Book 2 definitely had some good parts. Tenzin’s arc was probably my favorite part of book 2.I’m conflicted because we get to see the first avatar and the spiritual death of him as well in the same book. Overall Book 2 is not the worst but it’s not my favorite.
Book 2 wasn't that bad,but unalaq was a boring villian
Really? The way he gained Korras trust, truly seemed like a good mentor at first, the manipulating, the way he brought in his troops, the war- I digged that.
100% it was the worst story of The legend of horror but that doesn't mean it was bad that just means that was the weakest link
Season one was fine but season 2 was the great drop of korra
100%. Everyone I know actually stopped watching Kora after season 2. I didn't watch it until last year and was so surprised to find that there was more than 2 seasons 😅
The Dalai Lama himself has spoken about this life being his last incarnation, and that maybe there shouldn't be another Dalai Lama after him. Maybe the show was referencing this when they "cancelled" the Avatar state? Still, they could have handled it way better, it did feel unexpected and clunky. =/
He's also said he could reincarnate any way he desires, such as a woman or someone living outside China. But thar was to meas with the PRC.
I think haters forget that Korra is 18 and sheltered. She did her best given the circumstances, don't act like you can do better!
What you mean critics? Most critics loved the show. In fact, most critics and viewers loved the show.
Nah, still hate it for all the wasted potential. Respect your opinion though.
Season 2 was great, we got a deep look how the avatar was created, showing the lion turtles, even showing how earth kingdom, fire nation, air nation and water Tribe were created, side note I think the swamp benders were from avatar wan time, I would think the water benders moved to south and north poles while some stayed in their original land, learning about spirits how the physical and spiritual world are created. its just watching all the avatars die really puts a sour note on season 2 especially when the next season we see the revival of air benders, where I really felt aang could of connected with korra so he too could see the revival of his nation.
I don’t think it was great. The Beginnings episodes were great, and the spirits acting up was interesting. After the Beginnings episodes though, it went downhill when they turned Unalaq into a moustache-twirling villain, who’s motivation makes absolutely no sense. It became a generic story.
Severing of the connection to past lives was a part of the story.
Besides the Beginnings episodes, the civil war, and the spirits acting up being the most interesting elements of the season, it all was reduced to a generic story of a hero stopping the darkness from being unleashed by a moustache twirling villain. The finale is easily the most anti-climactic of all the finales in the Avatar universe.
The whole ATLA was this only. But still you love ATLA and hate season 2. Double standards!
@@varunbhat2077 Wrong. ALTA was not only this. It was also a complex story about coming to grips with what you have done, and how you can make everything right again. It is also about how people can be capable of great good and great evil. It was not at all generic. You are just saying that to make me look foolish. On the other hand, Season 2 of Korra was about stopping some guy who thought that the whole universe should be in darkness. So unless he was mind-controlled by Vaatu before getting possessed by him, I don't see how he could just become so infatuated with him. Let's not even get started on that fucking love triangle either.
@@captainhowlerwilson508 No. The main plot of ATLA was Aang mastering all 4 elements and defeating the evil Fire Lord. But I know it was much more than that. Similarly, season 2 was much more than saving the world from 10,000 years of darkness. Korra had her spiritual growth and defeated Vaatu spirotually. Korra defeated Vaatu, not as Avatar but as Korra. This was important because Korra's whole identity was just being the Avatar and not being Korra. Korra defeated Unalaq & Vaatu using Unalaq's own spirit bending technique.
@@varunbhat2077 And they just rushed through it. Did I also say that what I addressed was the main plot? I talked about how ALTA had complex themes that enriched the main plot. I said it was not only what the main plot was? Please read more thoroughly, instead of jump to stupid conclusions like many insufferable half-wits do. What is going through your head? All you are doing is making half-assed arguments to excuse the bad things of this season. They had Unalaq, do one evil thing after the next just to dash to the finish line. He was established as a sort of sympathetic character, who then suddenly becomes infatuated with the darkness for some reason. Ozai was basically an evil man whose evil deeds are passed down from his forefathers, and someone with a jealousy complex. Besides that, we also get one of the worst love triangles ever and Korra turning quickly from a peacemaker to a big Northern Water Tribe hater just because of her uncle.
Bro that was the whole point of ATLA what?
I love book 2 and I have a fanfiction on Wattpad (The Legend of Jasmine) about the earth Avatar being a non-bender for the first 16 years of her life because of an attempt by Avatar Korra to unlock the past lives by releasing her spirit and dying at a very young age. There is a lot of Emphasis on how much the events of book 2 shaped Korra and her view on being the Avatar. There's a part where Asami is talking to Jasmine discussing how much of Korra regretted staking her identity on being the Avatar for so much of her life. Jasmine counters with "She WAS the Avatar" and Asami's response is "That was her job- not who she was as an individual"
I also play around with Vattu (whose presence in Ravaa was the real reason the past lives were inaccessible) not necessarily being the pure evil incarnate he was depicted as in book 2 but rather 1 half of true balance in the world.
Man book 2 was TEAAAAA ! idc what NOBODY say! I wish it was longer honestly! Vaatu and Raava and the duality of them was so misunderstood she just got her butt whooped too much to me lol only bad thing
No, it's just bad. The arc is not interesting enough. Dark spirit this , dark spirit that. Full grown Avatar being used by the villain easily. Creating her own enemy, loosing a bunch of power by making horrible mistakes due to lack of knowledge, and in the end, making the same mistake again by leaving the spirit portal open.
People having difficulties by their own shortcoming is nothing admirable or interesting, it's just incompetency. people having difficulties due to hardship in life which they have no control over is much more interesting.
It's one thing where you nerf down all of the characters in order to create conflict, it's another when the characters are good and noble but are faced with interesting and hard to resolve dilemma.
For example, Aang, he was made to be a bad parent. Why is that? Because he's a bad person now? Where's the dire situation where he has no choice but to become a bad parent is? Where's the sacrifice decision? Someone is just automatically bad without any reason is not interesting, it's bad writing. Does he feel sorry for his negligence? What's the reaction? Did his kids never express this to him? If they expressed it, would he have just ignored them?
And yes, Aang would've not neglect his 2 other children for their entire life just to groom Tenzin into an heir for his culture. Favoring Tenzin, yes, ignoring the other 2 without showing them love, no.
You see, what they wrote can be good, if what they wrote has a story behind it. They're just like, oh, now Aang's a bad parent because we need an arc revolving around his children warming up to each other.
Nobody is inherently bad, behind a good villain is a hero in their own story. So if Aang is made to be this negligent father, where's the reason for it?
That's why Book 2 is bad, not because of what was written, it's that what was written has no interesting story behind it.
Book 2 is the worst book but it’s not that horrible
I watched LOK when it aired and now re-watching it to discover why I hated it in the first place. I do agree with Tom that season 2 is definitely a development for Korra because she thinks she has everything under control, and it's like most adolescent year when you think you can handle the world (in my case; I felt like that a lot) when you really don't know what you're doing even now. I hated it because it hit too close to home and I hated my past self and I hated that Korra was thinking things through properly. How would Korra know what to do when she's been told different stories from people she trusted? The communication lacked and there were manipulations. The love triangle was unnecessary at best. imo.
I saw somewhere that the main reason people hate Korra is that it's not because it's a bad show by any means, but because Korra embodies character traits we HATE to have. While with ATLA, you couldn't relate to most of the main characters, with Korra, you UNNERVINGLY did, and this is at its peak when portraying her depression and anxiety in Book 4. ATLA had an escapism aspect to it but with Korra, things hit close to home, take for instance the police brutality and curfew in Republic City...
Personally, I do think it's the weakest season, but that doesn't automatically make it awful. Maybe it's how much I relate to Korra, maybe it's nostalgia, I don't know, but I think the whole show deserves a lot more praise. I feel like I could write an essay on it but I don't have the brain power for that right now.
Season fours s the weakest season season two is the strongest season
For me season 2 is my favorite season of korra and youre right
After rewatching Book 2.
It's not as bad as we said it was.
I love the fact that Korra lost her Avatar connection.
I'm not trying to be biased here. But, Book Two decreased my interest in LOK as I finished the series. It was very unfocused, poorly paced, and featured many unnecessary plot points, such as the Dark Avatar thing. Even Korra got a bit annoying and so did Varrick.
Everyone I know that watched Kora stopped watching after season 2. I watched it for the first time last year and was blown away that there were actually 4 seasons not just 2 😅 after watching book 2 I completely understood.
@@mykodibear17 I was at least one of the few people who continued watching the whole series despite the show's degrading in quality compared to ATLA.
It wasnt that bad but it could have been much better
I think severing the connection to the past avatars was needed because at some point after atla it was going to be reset Korra becoming the first avatar of the next cycle is pretty chill and her losing the connection isn't even her fault
Thank you and I whole hearty agree with this whole and thank you
The single thing I think Season 2 did better was Varrick. I liked him as a shifty, manipulative villain hiding himself as comic relief until the reveal. The later seasons just made him into a cringy comic relief and gave him a half-assed redemption story.
Varrick’s subplot is my favorite part of season 2 and one of the highlights of the series. His movie makes me laugh so much every time 😂
It's okay I don't hate book 2 I hate the entire series
I personally enjoyed Season 2, my main concern was that it was maybe a little rushed in some areas
I just started re watching legend of Korra and I wanted more seasons! (or books)
Book 3 was my BEST SEASON
Let me take it one step further: Book 2 is my favorite
It gets a really bad rap but I don’t HATE it. I honestly like the route they took with Book 2. Unalaq is disgusting though
Yeah he was a major snake for using and betraying his family, tribes, and former allies
@@elijahbutcher9522 Literally though
Oh thank gosh someone else who doesn't hate Book 2.
I love book 2
I'm confused isn't this a reply it showed up as a comment for me
Book 2 is my second favorite season in the series
It wasn't the best book but it doesn't deserve the hate it got. It...was forgettable at worst (in my opinion).
Book 2 Of Korra Was Amazing And I Loved It
I honestly understand and agree with a lot of what was said. What I do disagree is Mako's situation; when watching season 2 I honestly agreed with Mako. Korra was taking a more hot headed approach.With ditching Tenzin, and actively trying to pick a her father's side, when it clearly wasn't the right way to do things. She shouldn't have taken sides. but I do agree and understand the kind of pressure she was going through. The relationships (aside from Bolin and Opal imo) were not good at all. The first season I could let it slide as it was hard to fit so much in the episodes they had, but it was just dumb to have it all quickly fall apart in season 2.
The loss of the past Avatars was also just stupid. It made sense, as Unalaq effectively killed Raava, but there had to have been some way to reconnect with Korra's past lives. There was a lot of potential having Korra be able to communicate and speak to other avatars to seek help on how to deal with threats. like Zaheer, Kuvira, and even Unalaq.
That's the thing. I highly doubt the past lives would've offered much guidance. Korra was living at the peak of the Industrial Age and even Aang didn't need the past lives when dealing with The Fire Lord. What's the point of asking a caveman how to build an airplane?
And also, while Korra's decisions weren't the best, I understand where she was coming from. She WANTS to be the Avatar, for the first time in her life, she is all in, both physical and spiritual. A threat comes up and she requires the spiritual, and the ones who kept her LOCKED UP all in the name of her protection can't even help her. Then comes a smooth talking family member who has the solutions to ALL her problems and is actually loved by his people a lot. Would you, honestly speaking, have stuck with Tenzin and Tonraq if you were in Korra's shoes, especially with the spiritual chaos getting worse and worse? Her decision is only made worse by the fact that she is brash and temperamental, but at the end of the day, I would've made the same decision. Her finding out that she doesn't know much at all was really satisfying, when she apologized to Tenzin especially, and that Unalaq had been manipulating her all along.
Why is Korea fighting colored shapes, remember when the spirit world was mysterious and nightmarish. It was bad. The final battle was wack, We want choreography and skill not a giant fight with blasts. The season was bad and legend of Korra as whole was complete downgrade from avatar both is story, developed characters, main character was annoying, writing wasn’t cohesive, wasn’t funny. Fighting became cheap. I can go on
I enjoyed LOK more than ATLA literally fight me
lok is bad ATLA is good. My friend loved ATLA and couldnt make it past the first few episodes of lok
It's okay. We're all wrong about something at some point (:
@@mykodibear17 You do know he is entitled to his opinion and it's not 'wrong' because opinions are entirely subjective, right?
@@henrywayne5724 You do know how to recognize a joke when you see one, right?
I enjoyed more too
The legend of Korra was supposed to end at season 1
To be fair the entire series is overly hated
Ugghh, can I still have my opinion it was bad? I like the animation but that was pretty much it. I feel like saying more will just end up with me being flamed.
VERY unpopular opinion, but i think the relationship issues in korra are valuable. they remind me that theyre just kids struggling with communication and relationships. in season 1-3 theyre basically high school seniors who are JUST transitioning into the adult world but still having very turbulent emotions and not really knowing how to handle them well. my love life and relationships were also incredibly messy around their age, but then in season 4 when theyre all about 20 i can tell how they've emotionally matured. its subtle they very clearly have grown up
Water tribe was unexpected. Thought Tom would stan Earth Nation.
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It was not bad per say but honestly it was very good either since it’s it was so rushed
Book 2 is honestly my second favorite after book 3
Same here
People will over hate anything. Heck I actually liked the origins of the Avatar itself in Book 2.
Yeah avatar wan was the best thing about book 2 in my opinion,I loved the origin of the avatar cycle
I just going to say this before I have watched the video, and will post a reply in response to the video after. Legend of Korra season two suffered heavily from so many different things. It had a new animation studio, that normally makes anime, that wasn't prepared for the extreme demands of the show, which caused animation to suffer. It was put online only so that greatly limited its reach and I presume resources to use in the show. However, the thing that I think really kills season 2 is that it was really disappointing, with enough bad to outweigh its good parts. Now, I could talk about how Unalaq was just a bad villain, but I think the greater betrayal was the story. Its starts off so good to, with it setting up so many great ideas and questions for Korra. With the Water tribe civil war, Korra was conflicted, she was trying to stay neutral because she thought that was the best choice for her as the Avatar, but she was also a southern water tribe member. She was looking for a way to do solve these conflicts without picking a side, but she couldn't. To paraphrase Korra's mother, those conflicts between the North and the South existed long before she was born so maybe there was nothing she could or should do. It was really cool seeing her question what her role as the Avatar is, which is a common theme most notably shared through Tenzin. Tenzin is also struggles with his role, feeling that he is failing as a spiritual guide because he can't get to the spirit world, with Korra even dismissing him because of this. This honestly sets up what, to me at least, is the most interesting character arc in the show (besides maybe Korra in season 3-4). This honestly where my praise of this season ends, and I can honestly point to two decisions made in the show, the creation of Raava and Vaatu, and the destruction of the past Avatars. This to me destroys a couple core concepts to the Avatar world and what the Avatar is. Now, the destruction of the past Avatars I think was just a really bad story decision that cuts off so many possibilities, not adding anything to the story, just taking it away. The real crime is with the spirits. By making Raava all good and Vaatu all bad, they take away the blue and orange morality of the spirits. Now, I'm sure some would say, "But they aren't just good and evil, they are like Yin and Yang", to which I say, yes the show did say that, but they didn't show that. Now, I just realized that I am repeating a lot of stuff from Hello Future Me's Legend of Korra's 'Beginnings' | An Overdue Critique, so if you want to know basically what I was going to say, just watch that. In total, season 2 was just really disappointing, with little payoff for the themes it was trying to explore, weakening the shows world, and making decisions that felt almost like a betrayal. While season 2 is bad even when viewed isolated from the rest of Avatar, it was made worse because we had higher expectations for Avatar and season 2 was just so much worse than any other season.
Have you watched Bleach: Thousand Year Blood War?
Unpopular opinion I didn't care for the Wan episodes. Yes it was nice seeing the Avatars origins but it totally reconned everything we have learned in Atla.
Unpopular opinion: Legend of Korra is not bad, it’s just different.
Part of why people think it's so bad is because it isnt different though. It's very typical of the average story beats of most shows out there, which to people who are older and have more exposure to media, makes it bland and predictable at best. People liked Avatar because it was different, so being different from avatar just makes you like everything else.
@Selim Mašić Lol, not at all.
Show A and Show B can both deviate from the common tropes of the time and still be completely different from each other. Like how Strawberry and Chocolate ice cream are both very different from Vanilla, but also different from each other. That's not what happened though.
Not trying to say whether or not your thoughts on Kora being good/bad are right/wrong, just that while it may be different from Avatar, it's a very typical and predictable show for our time. It follows a lot of tropes and clichés that are common in modern media, so when you say "it's just different," you're not wrong that it's different from Avatar, it definitely is, but you're not right in saying that it's different from the average show. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, Marvel made bank off of these kinds of tropes and people loved those movies, but it is why a lot of people were disappointed by Kora.
I agree with you. Book 2 gave us a lot moving forward. I, like you think it is because 3 major events occured. Wan, destroying of past lives, hermongic convergence. The Civil War plot seems to just be a way of moving story forward though as it wasn't givin the time it deserves x
What I liked the most about season 2 LOK was the civil war arc. The manipulation, intrigues, slowly escalating tensions, Varrick, propaganda, the possibility of foreign intervention- that was excellent.
i don't get the people who aggressively hate LoK, even book 2. i understand that it's not the best show it could have been, but it's far from unwatchable. i see it as a good show that was kept from being great because of studio bullshit.
I don’t think season 2 of korra isn’t bad but it’s definitely the worst season of korra in my opinion. It felt like there was no direction. We had dark spirits then movies, then police, then spirit world then more dark spirits then wan then finally THE Dark spirit. Also the avatar past lives got severed and that was a major thing that made me not like the season that much. Season 1, 3 and 4 all had one thing that they stuck to. And season 2 didn’t really have that to me. It was good for what it was and honestly the dark avatar is a fucking awesome concept, but it was done horribly. Overall season 2 of korra wasn’t that bad at all, Wans story actually saved the season for me. But comparing it to season 1, 3 and 4, it was by far the worse season. I actually think it’s the worse season out of both ATLA and TLOK. But I don’t think it’s a horrible season. It’s enjoyable, just not on the level of the other seasons of both shows
season 2 could have been good if they just would have stick with Water Tribe Civil War but instead they went to drawn out the spirts witch just ruin the season as a whole.
If it weren't for the character development, I would say most of korra could be written off. The story felt predictable and child korra in book four was my second least favorite part of korra next to Kaiju battle of book two, followed by amnesia love triangle in third.
Tom be cool
I would love for the dark avatar to return,it could steal earth,fire,and air from benders.Also avatar smackdowns,the Whitelotus searching and figureing out which is which,and so many possibilities
1 avatar; 2 spirits
Book 2 was solid except the ending. It was too much of a Woah wtf is going on
@SpiderSketches aye I love Talentless Writer!
I didn't have a problem with it.
First of all, I love this video it was well thought out and interesting. I think we can all agree book 2 was the least favourite but honestly LOK in general isn't as bad as people say it was. I just have a problem with some of the storylines in book 2, like how they made her loose her connection to her past lives(making her look weak 😧) as result Zaheer and Kuvira had the guts to still challenge her in the Avatar state like wth who born you 😂. And just how book 2 wasn't really thought out as much.
Her connection to past lives severed because Raava got destroyed. When Raava and Korra fused again, a new Avatar cycle began.
@@varunbhat2077 Yh, I get that but why though. Why did they have to make her loose the connection to her past lives, I don't get it.
@@dumebi_ne The same reason why they had to make all the Airbenders dead in ATLA. It served a purpose in the story. If you see season 3 and 4, this allowed Korra to grow. Plus, it served as a long-lasting consequence of Unalaq/Vaatu's actions.
@@varunbhat2077 Yes makes perfect sense but it felt like such a huge consequence to pay. I think it was because it very hard hitting that fans felt it was unnecessary.
@@varunbhat2077 Truthfully, I absolutely agree it made her grow as an individual and as the avatar especially in the last season which is one of my favorites especially that conversation she had with Tenzin. 😭❤️
This is my favorite book 😅
I am interested can you elaborate. Your opinion isn’t wrong I am just really curious.
I love the legend of korra
Love every legend of korra season
Killed aang and paste avatars can't make me love a character like that and kill them was totally hoping for this avatar come back it never came and it left me kinda sad that aang wouldn't exist in future stories. Not that I disliked the spirit plot just that was unnecessary could have totally had aang and past lives around.
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Astonishing video as always my good pal😊🥰👍💯💕💞💖
I think you made some solid points but I think that aang wouldn’t have fallen into favoritism and even if he did there is absolutely no way that Katara would’ve let aang do that. I think they also made a massive mistake that they in showing how the avatar came to be. I’d rate korra book 2 a 4/10. I enjoyed this video, I really like hear what you thought about book 2
Honestly book 2 is my favorite season I like the raava and vaatu lore and the last 3 episodes has my favorite fight scenes and unnalaq wasn't that bad even though he's just a waterbending ozai
Honestly the only thing I don't like about season 2 is the love triangle and losing past lives it was a powerful moment but I wished they reversed it by the end.
Also I love the kaiju battle best fight
Yesss ppl sleep on Unalaq’s waterbening
Raava and Vaatu were fucking stupid.
Sonic is getting a Netflix series!!! 🎉🎉🎉
Finally something to rival AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER AND THE LEGEND OF KORRA. And just because Sonic is better
I love legend of korra