Studying medicine had always been my dream as a child, the entrance exam for medicine in my country is very difficult and only a small percentage get in. I worked my ass off for that exam and I just passed it. In my first year of med school I came to the painful realisation that I hate people, I don’t want to work with people (patients) all the time. I changed to biomed and realised that that was what I wanted all along, I just didn’t know biomed existed when I was little, but medical research is what I’ve always wanted. And now I’m in my second year of biomed and I’m loving it :)))
@CJ Official If you're going to apply to Med school I'll give you a piece of advice. Make your writing legible, and fill out your test request forms properly... If you don't they get rejected at the lab and delay your patients treatment /care. As a trainee BMS I find this infuriating and frustrating that fully qualified doctors cannot write out their full name, ward area and test requested on a bit of paper... Or even in some cases make it readable.
Couldnt agree more with every word of this video. Switching from a Biomed degree to medicine has been such a welcomed changed. Biomed was a lot more draining a degree than Medicine. Don’t give up on trying to pursue Medicine if you’re really passionate about it. Doors will open for you if it’s meant to be, just have faith.
@@akifrahman Yeah of course! I always wanted to do medicine, and I certainly had the grades to go straight in but unfortunately, I had to repeat one of my college years for personal reasons. What was made quite apparent very quickly was that despite having a reason for the repeat and having solid grades, most Universities wouldn't consider my application for the standard A100. Instead of letting that be the end of my goal of getting into medicine, I decided instead to apply for Biomedicine with Biochemistry, which I thoroughly enjoyed, and then applied for Graduate entry medicine where I was offered a place on my first attempt. Just goes to show that even in the face of rejection, when people are telling you that it will never happen, you need to believe in yourself and keep on pushing through!
@@geckochamp345 thanks man, that's an incredible story and I'm glad you got there in the end you deserve it. I did quite poor in my A levels and I'm considering GEM after my biomed degree. People tell me that I'm never gonna make it, it's much harder this way and I go to a non Russel group uni so I don't stand a chance. However as you said, you just gotta believe in yourself so I will make it! Best of luck with everything.
I recently got my bachelor degree in biomedical studies in Poland and I will be applying for masters. It was a thought journey but iam glad Ive chosen biomed instead of medicine 💜
Hey, I just passed my i.b diploma and even I am interested in medicine I have some doubts regarding the course plus I am am also considering b.s.c in biotech would you mind answering some questions just so I can get some clarity and some direction ??
I've done Biomedical science for my degree and loved it, and now finishing my master in Immunology (Vaccine yeay!). Yes there is a lot of presentation + writing essay because you need to get used to writing thesis and proposal which is can be 100 pages long and present your paper to your audience. But if youre passionate about what youre doing, everything is easy. Not to mention, you can test your theory right away using cell line or mice in the lab. It gives you satisfaction if your theory/hypothesis is correct and working in the lab is fun as hell. Unfortunately, job scope for medical research are limited, atleast here in New Zealand. Youre relying on fund or project to get paid and survive. If you ran out of idea or your research didnt get approve, you end up not getting funds and become jobless. But you can still work in the pathology lab in the hospital or clinic, or work in the lab for food industry where they pay you hourly. Overall, I love Biomed, its fun to learn, but there's cons that worth noting.
May I ask what kind of degree do you need to enter Immunology for postgrad other than biomed? Can medicine, biotech and pharmacy degrees work? And where are you studying Immunology?
@@botsunny013 Ive done Biomedical science degree but I have colleagues that have done bachelor of science, biotech, and pharmacy. I have colleagues that are doctors as well. As long as you have basic knowledge of immunology you can do master in immunology. Im doing master in clinical immunology in Victoria University in Wellington New zealand. Good school but limited resources and funding especially during this pandemic
Omg now im acc kinda scared to start biomed this yr 😭especially because im not that good at essay writing, as i didnt do any essay based subjects at alevels.
As a graduated biomedical engineer I can say... Every company thinks I studied either bio-engineering or biomedical science... It's so hard to find a job
You study Biomed in UK ? Pramisha! ? I am applying for Biomedical Science too. If it is so I would be great to get some suggestions because i am from Nepal too
Kenzie - the high-pitched beep is likely to be a carbon monoxide detector and you need to replace the battery. The beeping will increase as the battery runs out. Vivien
2:38 really crazy how the course build-up is soooooo different, firstly among Uni's within one country, and then again compared to other regions in the world. Your 2nd year was soooo specialized already. Basically organ systems were all covered in anatomy and physiology in my 1st and 2nd year. My 2nd year (in Ghent, Belgium) was molecular biology, biochemistry, histology, statistics, immunology, biological model systems, biomedical analytical techniques, biomedical literature review... In terms of workload: indeed. In Biomed you perhaps go ahead and apply earlier, as in medicine you need more basic stuff to memorize before applying. In essence, biomed trains you mostly to progress to research, which is to CREATE new knowledge. Medicine, mostly, is to apply the medical practices that exist, so it's to APPLY knowledge. But it doesn't mean you can't be both a MD, PhD and still get into research of course, perhaps only clinical. 12:25 good point there. Thing is, grades are a momental snap-shot, there's so much more to learn 'on the job'. Still, medicine holds a lot more responsibility directly as you're immediately dealing with humans. So if I had to choose, I would rather see a physician graduate with good marks based on a strategic call where they divided the exam load between 3 terms (1st exams, 2nd exams and reexams), than someone who pumped it all in struggling in 2 terms only and doesn't know several muscles for example. You get my point? For biomed, a certain grade rate is required for entering a PhD for example, but you can get a job in industry (or somewhere else) as well if you don't have the best grades out there :) Great video, Kenji! Great to see fellow honest 'guides' for the next generation into science/medicine!
THANK YOU! 🙌 Someone who gets it, this is so similar to my experience of biomed and yesss the exams were a nightmare especially with all the referencing!! 😭
This recommendation is crazy. Ive always wanted to do medicine, got terrible results for my biomed degree, now a BMS but I still get that nagging thought in my head about what if I tried for medicine again 😭
I'd love to study medicine. I have my degree in Biomedical Science. Don't think I could afford graduate entry medicine though. I'm Just going through the registration process as I got a job in the NHS working in med micro. I think I'm going to work towards being a clinical Scientist.
Goodness yea...i totally agree with you..it is really stressful..i completed my biomedical bachelor's..no time to sleep..during my degree..omg... assignment submissions and lab report submissions and exams were all together..we complete one report then there is a next report to be submitted in between exams..and so much..😭😭😭😭 But loved those stressful days..i miss those times..it was quite fun though..😁
I am so happy that I find ur vid on this matter. I'm currently studying biomedicine for my bachelor's degree, and i was thinking of continuing into medical school. However, I find that very hard because unlike the US, Canada, UK, etc, my country, Indonesia has little understanding on what biomedicine is. And the way med school works here is very different. So, I'm currently having a hard time on figuring out what to do after I graduate. Not to mention that biomedicine is usually a graduate course here (don't know why, I thought it was a 'premed' course in other countries, but apparently not here lol), so... yeah.. Often times I feel like I chose the wrong choice, like taking biomedicine is not a good choice if you're studying here (because it's very uncommon and most people don't know what that is, which is sad).
Here in Brazil its almost like this! People really think undergrad biomedical students are just studying biomed because they didnt get enough entrance exam grades to be accepted into medical School (here in Brazil you can do medical School right after high School) Unfortunately thats true in some cases, but me for example, I can't see myself being a physician, I love Biomedical sciences and I want to get a PhD degree in a lab abroad, but sociaty needs to value this degree as well, its so hard but people think its less important🤧
Fellow Indonesian here! I aimed for Forensics for the whole time, so I might not be the best example. But I used to think that to be a forensics officer, I had to have graduated from MD (equivalent) first, which is a hard think for me to accomplish as I am from social studies in High School (I am not allowed to switch to Sciences back then by my advisor because they need 'smarts from social studies' to throw to competitions to). Then, I took Biology for Bachelor and Forensics in UNAIR for Masters. And when I realized it, the Forensics program I am in, is more like forensics development and medicolegal instead of medicine aspects of it, hence I may not able to even work in the carreer I am set to. The one I am for required medicine for Bachelor and Forensics as specialization, so you can imagine how bamboozled I am. It is as if my whole life has gone waste, along with my youth, just because my HS teachers need someone for them to uplift their reputation.
@@vlava_reads7484 wow.. thank you for sharing ur story:D Hopefully you can find a way to actually work on the forensics aspect that you want. Best of luck! (Didn’t know there are multiple aspects of forensics either😅).
@@WildSkyGalaxy Most of forensics programs in Indo are specialization for Pendidikan Kedokteran (Bachelor degree equivalent of 'med school), so it is literally a Masters for docs. While the one I am in is the only Forensic program someone from social studies can enroll in, as it works like biomed, hence more research and development orientated. I will not able to be a doctor, like at all. While to be a doctor will not be my priority, my choosen career ended up to have that as requirement. It is truly pity that in our country, social studies students still not able to be a doctor, if it does, I can enroll in one. Instead the only choices are either I study abroad or give up entirely and waste a lot of money. There is a program called Magister Kedokteran Umum (M.Kes), but even though it has 'doctor' in it, you are in no way becoming a doctor after graduate. It is also similar to my degree, and works as a stepoing stone for someone who has more ambitions to be head of nurse, head of divisions/specializations, or head of clinic/public hospitals/etc. As we called it 'jalan buntu'. Either you graduate from biomed and adding another bachelor degree that will ended up the only one you use or just keep doing biomed if you are in love with research and development aspects of it. Btw, where do you study biomed from? I also adding another Bachelor in my belt. I study at IVET semarang for Biomed XDD
Every single thing he said is true about Biomed. It's very detail orientated with great complexity. Every atom interaction is accounted for to provide the bigger picture.
I found it weird that you didn't mention one thing about the IBMS and how you need that to even work as a biomedical scientist in a NHS hospital... That is a big difference especially when some universities are IBMS accredited.
I’m a 3rd year biomed student at University of Strathclyde in Scotland, we do 4 years and our modules are absolutely nothing like yours. So wild that the same degree can be taught so differently! I still can’t do essays to save myself and am absolutely dreading the dissertation :( scary stuff
I think the reason why this two courses are different is because he did not do an accreditted degree, in fact in the description it specifies hsi degree was Medical Sciense (BMedSci). Regardless to you essays and dissertation, do not worry, it is easier than it looks and you will get help from your dissertation tutour. Also check with you uni, they might have workshops around this. Best of luck
Could it be that medicine seemed easier because you studied biomedical first. Imagine if you studied medicine first then biomedical , you could probably say medicine is more stressful.
Thank you for sharing! It helps me understanding more about this field. Btw im gonna finish my first year in biomedical science this week! It's kinda hard to finish online learning during this covid19 pandemic. 3 more years to go! :)
Really glad I stumbled upon this video. Was wondering whether to pick biomedical science or medicine for a long time. Leaning towards biomed since I personally enjoy laboratory work. (mainly experimenting and conjuring up weird guesses and whatnot) But after seeing this video I'm kind of worried I won't be able to deal with the stress and endless coursework haha. Am still on pre-u level so I appreciate the information given :)
I do biomed in Switzerland and in first year we have more hours than the med students 😅 with all the same theory courses they have plus extra stats instead of psychosocial, and we had the same exams as them plus ones special to biomed
@@aliceyonatan268 I don't believe there are any BSc courses of biomedical science in English here. A few master's degrees are in English, more in German speaking part though.
I knew about biomed last year, and besides my dream is to study medicine since I was a child, I still so attracted for biomed, but is not in my country :( I’m in senior year and want to study outside, but my parents don’t want bc of pandemic, so I will study Med if I pass the exam in my country and then when things get better I hope I can study Biomed😔 Your videos help me a lot to get positive vibes✨stay safe!
It’s interesting how the courses differ through the UK let alone other countries, I’m about to go into my 3rd Year of Biomed up in Napier and the yr2 modules you done were completely different than mine.
Lab once a month?? I went to lab 3times a week. I study biomed with the university of Greenwich... had bio chemistry lab, chemistry lab and biology lab. And this was just first year.
Hi. I am a Chinese student who have been studied in a Chinese university for 3 years and planing to transfer to a UK university. I have already received offers and was wandering the average age of English students in the freshman year as I am already 21 years old and was worried that I would be much older than others🤣
Hi! People normally start at 18 but there will definitely be people who took gap years and are a little older. I started med school at 23 and many of my friends are my age or older so I wouldn't worry :)
I just finished my first year and few of my classmates were in their late 20s. One of them even already have children! Age shouldn’t be an obstacle to continue studying ❤️
I've wanted to apply to biomed for ages, partly because I don't really want patient contact, partly because it's easier than medicine, you're sending me into a crisis making it sound so much harder than medicine ahh!! What to do!!
Neither medicine or biomed are very hard courses, I was just trying to address the stereotype that medicine is much harder than biomed which I don't think is true because they're hard in their own respects and in different ways. Don't worry!
You’re going to have to take several chemistry classes at my university we had to take 2 general chem courses and 2 biochemistry courses as well as pharmacology which has chemistry involved so if that doesn’t sound like your vibe maybe consider a biology major
Wow I have done biomedical science from Kenya and its soo different here..we have no essays but it's an amazing course though finding jobs is stressful
I want to study biomedicine when I get graduate from high school (this is my last year). Where I live does not exist this career (the whole country I mean... The most similar career is biotec and medicine). I'll give a try to the Medicine school, but I'm pretty that I hate to work with people (patients) so my goal is to apply on an university on aboard as soon as I get graduate... The problem is that the most of the university that runs this career are in countries where the English is the official language, and I have some problems to handle my writing skills with this lenguage...
Am a new sub. Thanks for giving an insight. Just to add , I don't know you but I think you are a humble , nice person, may you are like how did I know abput this? Ok the way you respond to people's comments made me to say so. Keep it up. You shall make a wonderful doctor. You have patience, you are so calm.The best doctor in the making👏👏👏👏 All the best with your studies.
I am a biomedical researcher and let me tell you.... you get deprived of some happiness in life because you start to feel like a slave to humanity’s problems while getting severely underpaid and working super long hours. Not worth it
I'm a high school student studying in a full period school and taking the IB diploma programme and so far I feel like I'd fit right in with the long hours of studying and not sleeping very much, because everything you've said so far I already experience in school lmao
Im entering 3rd year in biomed, and you're making it sound medicine is easier for the type of person I am. My PT told me that if i struggled with exams in biomed, i shouldnt go for medicine. How hard/competitive was it to apply for medicine?
In my final year of biomed and I can confirm that biomed coursework is insane. Hardly anytime off and last year I constantly heard about the final year student reps being upset with the amount of coursework etc
s h a z It depends on the coursework but I’ve had coursework before where they have advised us to spend 10 hours minimum. This includes reading etc but most people rush it on last few days and only just pass. In my opinion you should only do biomed if you genuinely love it. If you don’t get into medicine here then go abroad or retake but if you fail to get the grades and still want to do medicine then go down the biomed route but it will be long!
I want to be a doctor, however, I did not take science A levels, therefore my best bet is to study biomed and then apply for medical school. This video has really scared me. Everything you said about medicine sounds more like me. But howww am I meant to get in?
I think I made a plunder as I started with Medicine and now I ended up doing a biomedical science degree now in September I will be joining for my masters degree in Microbiology. Great to hear your experience sounds good men.
@@dennismondah I know many doctors who chose biomedical science later on including my grandmother. I am a trainee biomedical scientist at the moment. :)
Finished my degree in Biomed last year and im applying for GEM this year! 100% agree that having to memorise references for an exam is not fun... Also the content in Biomed is really fascinating but the lack of patient contact was a huge downside for me! Great vid.
Im doing biomedical science extended diploma in college at the moment and I want to eventually become a forensic pathologist. What should I do in uni ?
Hey!! The video is wonderful ty! I have finished my A’levels and applied for direct medicine entry in two universities and also for biomedical engineering in one university(biomed as a premed)... i got accepted in all three however I’m confused on whether I should go for direct entry or do biomed first..
@@manarmrabet771 currently developing a thin film temperature sensor... wish me luck! previously i studied tactile sensors for robotic applications... :)
@@rara-jl1gp i did not take diplome...here in malaysia..after a year of matriculation program in physic..i straight away did my degree...about the job...after degree... we worked in industry for medical supplies and also hospitals doing maintenance for medical equipments...
Am in Africa and I will be studing biomed. Can you please help me with how to get into med school after my undergraduate degree. I also need more insight on biomed
I always like watching your videos :) They are all very useful in terms of applying med schools and gaining understanding how med school life is. I am a second year medic, so I can understand how passionate you need to possess in order to overcome numerous challenges you encounter in med school. Hope that you can make more videos about studying tips for surviving in med school haha :D
Hey man! Your video appeared in my suggested and it was refreshing to hear how it works in other universities! About to start second year up in Teesside University and I'm super excited for 2nd year though nervous with the infamous "step up" from 1st to 2nd year, especially with Covid! It's funny that you mentioned lab sessions, we have labs twice a week and 3.5 hour seminars with 1 day of in the weekdays, so you're totally right - work load is intense! Just curious, how bad is that jump from year to year? :)
Hey man! Thanks so much. I'd say the jump from first to second year isn't that much..the jump from 2nd to 3rd is definitely the biggest! Mainly because there are new things that you've never done before like the dissertation and also the essay exams. All the best!
I haven’t done much research about jobs, but what jobs were you looking to do after getting a biomed degree, is it typically always in a lab. I’m going into year 12 with bio maths and chem a levels. I don’t really want to do medicine with 6+years of uni. I’m at a complete loss. I want to do a course which can get me a stable salary. I’ll look at the courses and see if I’m Interested. I won’t base all my interest on money.
Hello, besides being a doctor, I would like to do research, so I have set out to study two careers. First, Biomedical science, and then Medicine. What do you think? I'm not sure if it's the right choice.
im taking a foundation course in biomed at westminster and was wondering if i am able to do Medicine after completing the first year of the biomed course?
Studying medicine had always been my dream as a child, the entrance exam for medicine in my country is very difficult and only a small percentage get in. I worked my ass off for that exam and I just passed it. In my first year of med school I came to the painful realisation that I hate people, I don’t want to work with people (patients) all the time. I changed to biomed and realised that that was what I wanted all along, I just didn’t know biomed existed when I was little, but medical research is what I’ve always wanted.
And now I’m in my second year of biomed and I’m loving it :)))
Thanks so much for sharing this!
Are you Belgian too Chloé ? :)
@@azblackout1 Hey a fellow belgian! Are you studying biomedical science as well?
@@elineknetemann4983 Yeah ! I'm entering in my 3rd Bachelor ! I'm from Mons/Bergen :) What about you ?
@@azblackout1 Entering my 2nd Masters year in Brussels (VUB).
Future biomed student heeere (its really creepy that this was in my reccommended google is s p y i n g)
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Yea same I'm starting my first year in university next week. Kinda stressed out right now
Gonna send this to anyone who says biomed is btec medicine/ wayyyy easier
Hahaha whoever said that is telling tales 😂😂
Biomed is better no doubt
@CJ Official If you're going to apply to Med school I'll give you a piece of advice. Make your writing legible, and fill out your test request forms properly... If you don't they get rejected at the lab and delay your patients treatment /care. As a trainee BMS I find this infuriating and frustrating that fully qualified doctors cannot write out their full name, ward area and test requested on a bit of paper... Or even in some cases make it readable.
Couldnt agree more with every word of this video. Switching from a Biomed degree to medicine has been such a welcomed changed. Biomed was a lot more draining a degree than Medicine. Don’t give up on trying to pursue Medicine if you’re really passionate about it. Doors will open for you if it’s meant to be, just have faith.
I also studied Biomedicine before being accepted onto Medicine and I'm very happy that I decided to go down the GEM route!
Thanks for sharing man!
May I ask why didn't you go through the normal route which would have been much easier?
JitteryRobin990 maybe coz of entry requirements or how fun or interesting it id
@@akifrahman Yeah of course! I always wanted to do medicine, and I certainly had the grades to go straight in but unfortunately, I had to repeat one of my college years for personal reasons. What was made quite apparent very quickly was that despite having a reason for the repeat and having solid grades, most Universities wouldn't consider my application for the standard A100. Instead of letting that be the end of my goal of getting into medicine, I decided instead to apply for Biomedicine with Biochemistry, which I thoroughly enjoyed, and then applied for Graduate entry medicine where I was offered a place on my first attempt. Just goes to show that even in the face of rejection, when people are telling you that it will never happen, you need to believe in yourself and keep on pushing through!
@@geckochamp345 thanks man, that's an incredible story and I'm glad you got there in the end you deserve it. I did quite poor in my A levels and I'm considering GEM after my biomed degree. People tell me that I'm never gonna make it, it's much harder this way and I go to a non Russel group uni so I don't stand a chance. However as you said, you just gotta believe in yourself so I will make it! Best of luck with everything.
This was just recommended as I just applied Biomedical science, hopefully I get good grades and study medicine. Thanks for this
U will dont worry...i am also doing biomed and then study medicine later
All the best!!
Same
I recently got my bachelor degree in biomedical studies in Poland and I will be applying for masters. It was a thought journey but iam glad Ive chosen biomed instead of medicine 💜
Hey, I just passed my i.b diploma and even I am interested in medicine
I have some doubts regarding the course plus I am am also considering b.s.c in biotech would you mind answering some questions just so I can get some clarity and some direction ??
what are you doing masters in?anything specific or just masters in biomed itself??
@@nehafathima6523 well, here in poland we do not have any specialisation to chose from and therefore its just masters in biomed itself
is it easy to find jobs for your degree?
Just graduated from Biomed degree from University of Nottingham. I really feel you with endless coursework and the ruthless exams 😭
Lool congratulations!!
How can get admission my niece did 11 year of education with sciences score 85% ielts 6.5
I've done Biomedical science for my degree and loved it, and now finishing my master in Immunology (Vaccine yeay!). Yes there is a lot of presentation + writing essay because you need to get used to writing thesis and proposal which is can be 100 pages long and present your paper to your audience. But if youre passionate about what youre doing, everything is easy. Not to mention, you can test your theory right away using cell line or mice in the lab. It gives you satisfaction if your theory/hypothesis is correct and working in the lab is fun as hell. Unfortunately, job scope for medical research are limited, atleast here in New Zealand. Youre relying on fund or project to get paid and survive. If you ran out of idea or your research didnt get approve, you end up not getting funds and become jobless. But you can still work in the pathology lab in the hospital or clinic, or work in the lab for food industry where they pay you hourly. Overall, I love Biomed, its fun to learn, but there's cons that worth noting.
May I ask what kind of degree do you need to enter Immunology for postgrad other than biomed? Can medicine, biotech and pharmacy degrees work? And where are you studying Immunology?
Thank you for sharing!
Also studying Biomedical Science, finishing my master in Immunology as well!
@@botsunny013 Ive done Biomedical science degree but I have colleagues that have done bachelor of science, biotech, and pharmacy. I have colleagues that are doctors as well. As long as you have basic knowledge of immunology you can do master in immunology. Im doing master in clinical immunology in Victoria University in Wellington New zealand. Good school but limited resources and funding especially during this pandemic
i want to continuent in biomedical but being unsure if later i will have a job stress me
Just finished my degree in Biomed. Its really stressful and yes your grades count. Its a competitive job market
Thank you for sharing!
is it really that competitive?
where did you study it?? do you think salaries are good/
I just finished my degree in Biomed from Brum and oh my life. Let's say I'm glad it's over haha! The best and most stressful three years of my life.
Hahaha I feel you on that one! Congratulations on finishing!
Hey can you tell me more about how it went?? Was it mostly baaed in lab ??
Omg now im acc kinda scared to start biomed this yr 😭especially because im not that good at essay writing, as i didnt do any essay based subjects at alevels.
Don't worry you'll be fine! I had no experience in essay writing either. I recommend watching my how to write an essay video!
Me tooo😢😢😢
Same I'm thinking of transferring to Biochemistry
I'm starting biomed as well this year! I'm so excited but now also very very nervous
As a graduated biomedical engineer I can say... Every company thinks I studied either bio-engineering or biomedical science... It's so hard to find a job
I’m now a 3rd year biomed student and what you said about the coursework and exams pressure is true af😂
Hahaha glad you feel me on that one!
You study Biomed in UK ? Pramisha! ? I am applying for Biomedical Science too. If it is so I would be great to get some suggestions because i am from Nepal too
Kenzie - the high-pitched beep is likely to be a carbon monoxide detector and you need to replace the battery. The beeping will increase as the battery runs out. Vivien
Thank you - I just replaced it hahaha
2:38 really crazy how the course build-up is soooooo different, firstly among Uni's within one country, and then again compared to other regions in the world. Your 2nd year was soooo specialized already. Basically organ systems were all covered in anatomy and physiology in my 1st and 2nd year. My 2nd year (in Ghent, Belgium) was molecular biology, biochemistry, histology, statistics, immunology, biological model systems, biomedical analytical techniques, biomedical literature review...
In terms of workload: indeed. In Biomed you perhaps go ahead and apply earlier, as in medicine you need more basic stuff to memorize before applying. In essence, biomed trains you mostly to progress to research, which is to CREATE new knowledge. Medicine, mostly, is to apply the medical practices that exist, so it's to APPLY knowledge. But it doesn't mean you can't be both a MD, PhD and still get into research of course, perhaps only clinical.
12:25 good point there. Thing is, grades are a momental snap-shot, there's so much more to learn 'on the job'. Still, medicine holds a lot more responsibility directly as you're immediately dealing with humans. So if I had to choose, I would rather see a physician graduate with good marks based on a strategic call where they divided the exam load between 3 terms (1st exams, 2nd exams and reexams), than someone who pumped it all in struggling in 2 terms only and doesn't know several muscles for example. You get my point? For biomed, a certain grade rate is required for entering a PhD for example, but you can get a job in industry (or somewhere else) as well if you don't have the best grades out there :)
Great video, Kenji!
Great to see fellow honest 'guides' for the next generation into science/medicine!
Thank you for your comment and for sharing your thoughts!
Wow, you’re extremely hard working and such an inspiration
Thank you so much!!
THANK YOU! 🙌 Someone who gets it, this is so similar to my experience of biomed and yesss the exams were a nightmare especially with all the referencing!! 😭
Hahaha I'm glad you feel me on this one!!
This recommendation is crazy. Ive always wanted to do medicine, got terrible results for my biomed degree, now a BMS but I still get that nagging thought in my head about what if I tried for medicine again 😭
Its never too late!!
Go for it
I'd love to study medicine. I have my degree in Biomedical Science. Don't think I could afford graduate entry medicine though. I'm Just going through the registration process as I got a job in the NHS working in med micro. I think I'm going to work towards being a clinical Scientist.
I'm in the exact same situation. I'm also considering clinical science
Goodness yea...i totally agree with you..it is really stressful..i completed my biomedical bachelor's..no time to sleep..during my degree..omg... assignment submissions and lab report submissions and exams were all together..we complete one report then there is a next report to be submitted in between exams..and so much..😭😭😭😭
But loved those stressful days..i miss those times..it was quite fun though..😁
Haha I totally agree!
And i thought that was just my uni doing this. Wow, a global biomed phenomenon
This was honestly such a great, in-depth comparison. Really enjoyed watching this!
Im glad!!
I am so happy that I find ur vid on this matter. I'm currently studying biomedicine for my bachelor's degree, and i was thinking of continuing into medical school. However, I find that very hard because unlike the US, Canada, UK, etc, my country, Indonesia has little understanding on what biomedicine is. And the way med school works here is very different. So, I'm currently having a hard time on figuring out what to do after I graduate. Not to mention that biomedicine is usually a graduate course here (don't know why, I thought it was a 'premed' course in other countries, but apparently not here lol), so... yeah.. Often times I feel like I chose the wrong choice, like taking biomedicine is not a good choice if you're studying here (because it's very uncommon and most people don't know what that is, which is sad).
Here in Brazil its almost like this! People really think undergrad biomedical students are just studying biomed because they didnt get enough entrance exam grades to be accepted into medical School (here in Brazil you can do medical School right after high School) Unfortunately thats true in some cases, but me for example, I can't see myself being a physician, I love Biomedical sciences and I want to get a PhD degree in a lab abroad, but sociaty needs to value this degree as well, its so hard but people think its less important🤧
Fellow Indonesian here! I aimed for Forensics for the whole time, so I might not be the best example. But I used to think that to be a forensics officer, I had to have graduated from MD (equivalent) first, which is a hard think for me to accomplish as I am from social studies in High School (I am not allowed to switch to Sciences back then by my advisor because they need 'smarts from social studies' to throw to competitions to). Then, I took Biology for Bachelor and Forensics in UNAIR for Masters. And when I realized it, the Forensics program I am in, is more like forensics development and medicolegal instead of medicine aspects of it, hence I may not able to even work in the carreer I am set to. The one I am for required medicine for Bachelor and Forensics as specialization, so you can imagine how bamboozled I am. It is as if my whole life has gone waste, along with my youth, just because my HS teachers need someone for them to uplift their reputation.
@@vlava_reads7484 wow.. thank you for sharing ur story:D Hopefully you can find a way to actually work on the forensics aspect that you want. Best of luck! (Didn’t know there are multiple aspects of forensics either😅).
@@WildSkyGalaxy Most of forensics programs in Indo are specialization for Pendidikan Kedokteran (Bachelor degree equivalent of 'med school), so it is literally a Masters for docs. While the one I am in is the only Forensic program someone from social studies can enroll in, as it works like biomed, hence more research and development orientated. I will not able to be a doctor, like at all. While to be a doctor will not be my priority, my choosen career ended up to have that as requirement. It is truly pity that in our country, social studies students still not able to be a doctor, if it does, I can enroll in one. Instead the only choices are either I study abroad or give up entirely and waste a lot of money.
There is a program called Magister Kedokteran Umum (M.Kes), but even though it has 'doctor' in it, you are in no way becoming a doctor after graduate. It is also similar to my degree, and works as a stepoing stone for someone who has more ambitions to be head of nurse, head of divisions/specializations, or head of clinic/public hospitals/etc. As we called it 'jalan buntu'. Either you graduate from biomed and adding another bachelor degree that will ended up the only one you use or just keep doing biomed if you are in love with research and development aspects of it.
Btw, where do you study biomed from? I also adding another Bachelor in my belt. I study at IVET semarang for Biomed XDD
Every single thing he said is true about Biomed. It's very detail orientated with great complexity. Every atom interaction is accounted for to provide the bigger picture.
I found it weird that you didn't mention one thing about the IBMS and how you need that to even work as a biomedical scientist in a NHS hospital... That is a big difference especially when some universities are IBMS accredited.
I guess I didn't mention that because it wasn't directly related to what I wanted to do in my future, but thank you that's a very good point!
Just graduated with a 2:1 from biomed it was certainly stressful but it was a good time as well!
Lucky you that’s what I want
Thank you for sharing and congratulations!!
Thank you so much this video was so helpful and informative especially for someone who is thinking of pursuing biomed!❤️
You're very welcome! Please share it with any fellow aspiring biomeds 😁
@@DoctorKenji sure will!
I've been binging on your videos today.. And I only discovered your channel this afternoon.. I've subscribed!!
Thank you so much!
Loved this! It’s nice that you guys get a couple of days in the week for med school- from 3rd year onwards we’re in hospital Monday to Friday!
Third year was the same for me and I'm scared that'll be the case too in 4th and 5th year 😝
I’m a 3rd year biomed student at University of Strathclyde in Scotland, we do 4 years and our modules are absolutely nothing like yours. So wild that the same degree can be taught so differently! I still can’t do essays to save myself and am absolutely dreading the dissertation :( scary stuff
Haha that's crazy! I'd recommend checking out my how to write an essay video for help with that and also my ebooks in the description 😁
I'm the same 🤣🤣 I'm going into final year this September, I'm still terrible at essays 🙈
@@greta8411 same. we should start a chat group for biomed. 🤣🤣
@@Raininthemiddle it would be interesting because iv watched a few videos and the subjects they major in is soo different from my college
I think the reason why this two courses are different is because he did not do an accreditted degree, in fact in the description it specifies hsi degree was Medical Sciense (BMedSci).
Regardless to you essays and dissertation, do not worry, it is easier than it looks and you will get help from your dissertation tutour. Also check with you uni, they might have workshops around this.
Best of luck
I'm always a Biomedical Science student in Ghana. But people make me feel I made the wrong choice.
Don't let other people opinions take you away from your dream. It's your dream not theirs 😁
@@DoctorKenji thank you very much
Same here...I feel I've made the wrong choice
@@DoctorKenji do you consider physician assistantship a better premed course than biochemistry?
Could it be that medicine seemed easier because you studied biomedical first. Imagine if you studied medicine first then biomedical , you could probably say medicine is more stressful.
Coursework load sounds similar to psychology. I'm a neuropsych major in my 4th year studying Autism. Holy moly, it's very tough.
Thank you for sharing! It helps me understanding more about this field. Btw im gonna finish my first year in biomedical science this week! It's kinda hard to finish online learning during this covid19 pandemic. 3 more years to go! :)
Best of luck!
Really glad I stumbled upon this video. Was wondering whether to pick biomedical science or medicine for a long time. Leaning towards biomed since I personally enjoy laboratory work. (mainly experimenting and conjuring up weird guesses and whatnot) But after seeing this video I'm kind of worried I won't be able to deal with the stress and endless coursework haha. Am still on pre-u level so I appreciate the information given :)
It sounds crazy but very doable. If you like labs I wouldn't let that put you off :)
I do biomed in Switzerland and in first year we have more hours than the med students 😅 with all the same theory courses they have plus extra stats instead of psychosocial, and we had the same exams as them plus ones special to biomed
Do you study biomed in English in switzerland?
I search Bsc and cant find a uni that offers to study in English
@@aliceyonatan268 I don't believe there are any BSc courses of biomedical science in English here. A few master's degrees are in English, more in German speaking part though.
The Left picture is so cool bro.I am fell ın love with stethoscope.I hope ı will buy one day mee to.❤️
Dam didn’t expect ur biomed sound so intense. Back in Australia our biomed is a lot easier
Haha yeah unfortunately it was!
Oh what University do you go to for biomed. I hear it’s pretty bad at Monash
What uni?
I knew about biomed last year, and besides my dream is to study medicine since I was a child, I still so attracted for biomed, but is not in my country :( I’m in senior year and want to study outside, but my parents don’t want bc of pandemic, so I will study Med if I pass the exam in my country and then when things get better I hope I can study Biomed😔 Your videos help me a lot to get positive vibes✨stay safe!
All the best!!
I agree with it all! Thanks for sharing xx
Thank you!! Xx
Super helpful video!! Thanks Kenji 😌
You're welcome 😁
thank you for this video! i was contemplating on whether i should choose biomed or medicine. after this video im leaning more towards medicine!
Glad it was helpful!
WE LOVE THE GROWTH OF YOUR CHANNEL
Thanks so much!!
Great video, very interesting, thank you!
Thanks so much!
It’s interesting how the courses differ through the UK let alone other countries, I’m about to go into my 3rd Year of Biomed up in Napier and the yr2 modules you done were completely different than mine.
Yeah that's crazy!! I guess that highlights the importance of choosing the uni you want to go to also based on the course content
This was honestly so useful , thank you!
You're so welcome!
I'm Bio medical Engineer (B.tech) from India...
Ok
Ya! I'm also from India! is it really worth studying biomedical engineering in India?. The course is so different from other countries.
Lab once a month?? I went to lab 3times a week. I study biomed with the university of Greenwich... had bio chemistry lab, chemistry lab and biology lab. And this was just first year.
Can u do biomed with bio maths and phy at alevsl
I guys every uni has it differently!
I'd assume so! Check the university requirements
Memories. Did Biomedical in South Africa...that was torture but glad i perceived. Now going for my Masters.
in which exactly field of BS?
Good luck!!
@@hamzadakak4868 went for Clinical Pathology...Included Chem, Microbiology and Heamatology
Thank you for all the the advice :)
You're so welcome!
I’m first year biomed and I’m currently struggling to keep up with all the information in biology
Enjoyed keep up the good work! I work in CVD research here in Oxford.
Thank you and all the best with your research!!
Thank you for this!
You're welcome!
Hi. I am a Chinese student who have been studied in a Chinese university for 3 years and planing to transfer to a UK university. I have already received offers and was wandering the average age of English students in the freshman year as I am already 21 years old and was worried that I would be much older than others🤣
Hi! People normally start at 18 but there will definitely be people who took gap years and are a little older. I started med school at 23 and many of my friends are my age or older so I wouldn't worry :)
I just finished my first year and few of my classmates were in their late 20s. One of them even already have children! Age shouldn’t be an obstacle to continue studying ❤️
thanks a lot
Its funny how i never researched this on RUclips and this popped up and I'm actually curently studying biomedical engineering
I am currently a Biomed student but after that, I'm planning on going into medicine
All the best!!
just got an early entry offer for this course... exciting!!
Ayyy all the best!!
By watching your videos Kenji...it motivates me alot... i am currently doing biomedicine hoping to go to medicine later on.
All the best!!
Do u have to do a levels for or u can do btec aswell
I’m nervous now I’m doing a biomedical science Btec at college this year but I haven’t been able to find any info on a level 3 kind or range
I've wanted to apply to biomed for ages, partly because I don't really want patient contact, partly because it's easier than medicine, you're sending me into a crisis making it sound so much harder than medicine ahh!! What to do!!
Neither medicine or biomed are very hard courses, I was just trying to address the stereotype that medicine is much harder than biomed which I don't think is true because they're hard in their own respects and in different ways. Don't worry!
Cheers for this. UoB is defo my First choice for Medicine this year!
Best of luck!
Is it okay for me who hates chemistry but fall in love with biology to choose biomedic?
do biology?
@@fearlessbaek1583 that is a lesser of a degree. biology gets you no jobs
You’re going to have to take several chemistry classes at my university we had to take 2 general chem courses and 2 biochemistry courses as well as pharmacology which has chemistry involved so if that doesn’t sound like your vibe maybe consider a biology major
@@adela2345 alright thank you so much
Wow I have done biomedical science from Kenya and its soo different here..we have no essays but it's an amazing course though finding jobs is stressful
Hi.how about medicine ?
Wow jambo to you in Kenya!
I want to study biomedicine when I get graduate from high school (this is my last year). Where I live does not exist this career (the whole country I mean... The most similar career is biotec and medicine). I'll give a try to the Medicine school, but I'm pretty that I hate to work with people (patients) so my goal is to apply on an university on aboard as soon as I get graduate... The problem is that the most of the university that runs this career are in countries where the English is the official language, and I have some problems to handle my writing skills with this lenguage...
Am a new sub. Thanks for giving an insight. Just to add , I don't know you but I think you are a humble , nice person, may you are like how did I know abput this? Ok the way you respond to people's comments made me to say so. Keep it up. You shall make a wonderful doctor. You have patience, you are so calm.The best doctor in the making👏👏👏👏 All the best with your studies.
Thank you so much!!!
Hello, I'm your new fan here! I'm a first year medical student.
Please wish me luck for exam next month! Stay safe !
Thanks so much and good luck!!!!
How many hours a week would you recommend studying for biomed, including going to labs,tutorials etc
Outside of what is required from you from the degree, I'd say about 2 hours extra. But that does depend on your individual situation and goals!
I am a biomedical researcher and let me tell you.... you get deprived of some happiness in life because you start to feel like a slave to humanity’s problems while getting severely underpaid and working super long hours. Not worth it
Heyy Im gonna do biomedicine for university but I’m not sure of my choice as career prospects seems low.
I'm a high school student studying in a full period school and taking the IB diploma programme and so far I feel like I'd fit right in with the long hours of studying and not sleeping very much, because everything you've said so far I already experience in school lmao
Haha you'll fit right in then!
Im entering 3rd year in biomed, and you're making it sound medicine is easier for the type of person I am. My PT told me that if i struggled with exams in biomed, i shouldnt go for medicine. How hard/competitive was it to apply for medicine?
I definitely don't agree with your PT haha. Very competitive but also very possible if you work hard enough!
I wonder how are the lessons gonna be with learning at home, making things easier or harder?
I think it will depend on your personality! Some might find it easier and others harder
I am currently studying Pharmacy and looking into studying medicine once i graduate!
I didn’t know that possible I only thought you can do medicine after biomedical
That's very possible! Good luck!!
You can study pretty much any degree before medicine!
Kenji Tomita is anatomy an acceptable undergraduate course for medicine?
In my final year of biomed and I can confirm that biomed coursework is insane. Hardly anytime off and last year I constantly heard about the final year student reps being upset with the amount of coursework etc
What’s the course work like. How long would it typically take?
s h a z It depends on the coursework but I’ve had coursework before where they have advised us to spend 10 hours minimum. This includes reading etc but most people rush it on last few days and only just pass. In my opinion you should only do biomed if you genuinely love it. If you don’t get into medicine here then go abroad or retake but if you fail to get the grades and still want to do medicine then go down the biomed route but it will be long!
I want to be a doctor, however, I did not take science A levels, therefore my best bet is to study biomed and then apply for medical school. This video has really scared me. Everything you said about medicine sounds more like me. But howww am I meant to get in?
I think I made a plunder as I started with Medicine and now I ended up doing a biomedical science degree now in September I will be joining for my masters degree in Microbiology. Great to hear your experience sounds good men.
Good luck bro!
@@DoctorKenji thanks bro we are in this together 💪💪
@@dennismondah I know many doctors who chose biomedical science later on including my grandmother. I am a trainee biomedical scientist at the moment. :)
Let's keep learning bro one day we will reach our goals 💪💪
Finished my degree in Biomed last year and im applying for GEM this year! 100% agree that having to memorise references for an exam is not fun... Also the content in Biomed is really fascinating but the lack of patient contact was a huge downside for me! Great vid.
Thank you so much!!
Im doing biomedical science extended diploma in college at the moment and I want to eventually become a forensic pathologist. What should I do in uni ?
To be a pathologist you'd have to go to medical school
I am I am biomedical And I work in a veterinary hospital and a lot of fun watching the development of the animal I am 20 years old
Thanks for sharing.All the best!
@@DoctorKenjiI'm starting nursing school and biomedicine is showing a little pathology so I'll give myself over the next 3 years
So much truth in this video✅👏👏
Thank you!!
Great video mate
Thanks mate!
I’m on my second year of biomed at University of Wolverhampton and my modules are completely different than yours. But thank you for this video. 💯
Glad I could help!
insightful!
Thank you!!
Where did you study medicine? I am wondering whether to go to unis that offer and study for UCAT or GAMSAT
He studies in Kings College London
Hey!! The video is wonderful ty!
I have finished my A’levels and applied for direct medicine entry in two universities and also for biomedical engineering in one university(biomed as a premed)... i got accepted in all three however I’m confused on whether I should go for direct entry or do biomed first..
If becoming a doctor is your dream then i'd recommend direct! Going through applying as a graduate is very competitive
Omg 🙊 just yesterday I texted my friend let's do biomedical engineering in messenger how come this video came in my recommendation 😲
Haha RUclips is spying on you!
i have a degree and master in biomedical electronic engineering and currently doing phd in the course :)
dangg good job👏 are you specialised in something or is it without specialisation
@@manarmrabet771 currently developing a thin film temperature sensor... wish me luck! previously i studied tactile sensors for robotic applications... :)
how is the job market for that diploma? where did you study it?
@@rara-jl1gp i did not take diplome...here in malaysia..after a year of matriculation program in physic..i straight away did my degree...about the job...after degree... we worked in industry for medical supplies and also hospitals doing maintenance for medical equipments...
Great video!
Thank you!!
Am in Africa and I will be studing biomed. Can you please help me with how to get into med school after my undergraduate degree. I also need more insight on biomed
I always like watching your videos :) They are all very useful in terms of applying med schools and gaining understanding how med school life is. I am a second year medic, so I can understand how passionate you need to possess in order to overcome numerous challenges you encounter in med school. Hope that you can make more videos about studying tips for surviving in med school haha :D
Thank you so much and I definitely will make more videos on that 😁
Hey man! Your video appeared in my suggested and it was refreshing to hear how it works in other universities! About to start second year up in Teesside University and I'm super excited for 2nd year though nervous with the infamous "step up" from 1st to 2nd year, especially with Covid!
It's funny that you mentioned lab sessions, we have labs twice a week and 3.5 hour seminars with 1 day of in the weekdays, so you're totally right - work load is intense!
Just curious, how bad is that jump from year to year? :)
Hey man! Thanks so much. I'd say the jump from first to second year isn't that much..the jump from 2nd to 3rd is definitely the biggest! Mainly because there are new things that you've never done before like the dissertation and also the essay exams. All the best!
I am on my first year, and I am in love 🤩❤
This video is a god send
Do biomedical science and medicine what's the difference between someone who do medicine and biomedical
Studying biomed (i've finished 1st year) in University of Barcelona (UB) and it's an amazing degree!
I'm applying in 13 days (ahh!) to medicine and biomed as my fifth option.
Ayy all the best!!
Am studying biomedical engineering in india.... good video brother
Thank you and good luck man!!
I completed my Biomedical degree and hope to do my internship soon, waiting for the pandemic to shut🙄
I haven’t done much research about jobs, but what jobs were you looking to do after getting a biomed degree, is it typically always in a lab. I’m going into year 12 with bio maths and chem a levels. I don’t really want to do medicine with 6+years of uni. I’m at a complete loss. I want to do a course which can get me a stable salary. I’ll look at the courses and see if I’m Interested. I won’t base all my interest on money.
wow the way I'm about to go to uob for biomed in months time and this popped up in my recommendations. very uncanny indeed
Haha what a coincidence. All the best!
Hello, besides being a doctor, I would like to do research, so I have set out to study two careers. First, Biomedical science, and then Medicine. What do you think? I'm not sure if it's the right choice.
im taking a foundation course in biomed at westminster and was wondering if i am able to do Medicine after completing the first year of the biomed course?
I'm not sure! You'll have to do some research to see whether some unis offer a transfer scheme. Check your uni too