Calculus BC - 10.12 Lagrange Error Bound

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  • @Thyzt
    @Thyzt 7 месяцев назад +24

    Exam tomorrow. Our teacher didn't even bother teaching this too much cos it was a bit tricky LOL so thank you so much!

  • @sportmixes9899
    @sportmixes9899 Год назад +75

    This was by far the hardest section for me to understand

  • @SS-pl5ds
    @SS-pl5ds Год назад +28

    There's no nice way to say this, but I'm finally happy to get rid of you!!
    Kidding. Your amazing calculus videos are the reason I'm feeling confident about tomorrow's exam. Cannot thank you enough for what you do.

    • @stress4087
      @stress4087 7 месяцев назад

      how did u do if you dont mind me asking? my AB teacher told me he'd help me with the BC stuff and he didnt so im stuck self studying these videos rn LOL

  • @oSnapL
    @oSnapL 2 года назад +52

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  • @christopherhui4109
    @christopherhui4109 Год назад +5

    Why we need to put x=3 when calculate the error bound?

  • @user-.001
    @user-.001 2 года назад +14

    Thankyou for clear explanation of error bound. next week monday is my AP Cal BC D-Day.. Thank you for making this video!

  • @teesuu953
    @teesuu953 Год назад +2

    when do you know to use the equal to sign or to not use the equal to sign?

  • @kwamp684
    @kwamp684 Год назад +6

    the best video on this so far. Thank you so much. Im studying myself for the exam and ive been mostly using a book but the authors got lazy near the end. Thanks alot!

  • @terryzhao3385
    @terryzhao3385 2 года назад +11

    Clear explanation. Thank you so much!

  • @shuofengpang1328
    @shuofengpang1328 10 месяцев назад +2

    One thing that I don't understand is that why would you use 1 for the max of sin, not 1/2. given that sin(0.2)

    • @TheAlgebros
      @TheAlgebros  9 месяцев назад +2

      You don't have to stress about the actual value of sine. For the error bound, you get to simplify things for yourself and just consider the maximum value of sine will never be larger than 1. When the tests are graded, you just need to show that you understand that. You could make it even more restrictive by using sin(0.2), but that's not necessary to use the Lagrange error bound.

    • @justinkenneally4988
      @justinkenneally4988 7 месяцев назад

      @@TheAlgebros So can you use 0.2 and still not lose points?

    • @marcocruz6210
      @marcocruz6210 7 месяцев назад

      @@justinkenneally4988 yes, hes saying you can use a smaller number to get a closer bound however it is only making it harder for yourself since using 1 as bound is acceptable since an sin or cos will never exceed 1

    • @muralidharansomasundaram1509
      @muralidharansomasundaram1509 7 месяцев назад

      Since sin(x) < x, can't we use sin(0.2) < 0.2?

    • @shuofengpang1328
      @shuofengpang1328 7 месяцев назад

      @@muralidharansomasundaram1509 but we don't know what is sin(0.2) with out a calculator.

  • @JahreadyKnow
    @JahreadyKnow 7 месяцев назад +3

    I don't get why you didn't find the max value of sin x WITHIN the interval of 0 and 0.2. You basically just explained it as "collegeboard says use 1 for max".

    • @rockk3y413
      @rockk3y413 7 месяцев назад +1

      Yea same. Plus, it was a negative sign. Would that be the max value of zero or is it maximum magnitude? I didn't think it was the best explanation.

    • @ragcrafter8127
      @ragcrafter8127 7 месяцев назад

      Not true a sin function fluctuates between -1 and 1 on the y axis or output in this case since it’s negative sin when normal sin is negative 1 -sin is at its max here if you wanted the max on the interval it would just be 0 since negative sin is strictly decreasing from 0 to 0.2 sin of 0 is just 0 therefore the max on the interval is 0 since all other values are negative.
      But sometimes it can be hard to tell which end point or if some value between the end point is the max and there you would need to use the first derivative test. Or you can just know the max value of any normal sinx or cosx is just 1

    • @catmom1708
      @catmom1708 4 месяца назад

      The absolute value of sine from 0 to 0.2 is increasing. Sin(0.2) is the max within the interval 0 to 0.2.
      I used the sin(0.2) as the max and get the error bound 5.29785x10^7.
      The AP test is testing the understanding of Lagrange bound. Either using 1 or sin(0.2) should be considered correct. Using sin(0.2) is more accurate. But it is for a max value if sine, 1 is max without thinking the given interval.

  • @brianlipiano7113
    @brianlipiano7113 7 месяцев назад

    i think that since you didnt put the absolute value symbol around some of these they could be marked wrong by someone from college board?? im not sure, can anyone confirm?

  • @ramongonzalezfernandez8904
    @ramongonzalezfernandez8904 9 месяцев назад

    If i am to plug in the values 0 and 0.2 for -sin(x), I get -sin(0) and -sin(0.2), which equal 0 and ~ -0.2 respectively. Would i take the value with the largest magnitude, (i.e ~0.19), or the max (0)? When i take the max, i get an error of 0 which is nonsense

    • @TheAlgebros
      @TheAlgebros  9 месяцев назад

      You don't have to stress about the actual value of sine. For the error bound, you get to simplify things for yourself and just consider the maximum value of sine will never be larger than 1. When the tests are graded, you just need to show that you understand that. You could make it even more restrictive by using the values between -sin(0) and -sin(0.2), but that's not necessary to use the Lagrange error bound.

    • @ramongonzalezfernandez8904
      @ramongonzalezfernandez8904 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheAlgebrosBut if i were to go for the more restrictive error bound, would i use -0.2 as the maximum, or 0?

    • @sadcat7031
      @sadcat7031 7 месяцев назад

      You would use 0.2 since everything is in an absolute value, negative does not matter, meaning 0.2 is the largest possible value. It seems that he is implying that on the AP exam, you can just say 1 and be kinda close, but idk

  • @thedxrito
    @thedxrito Год назад

    is there a reason why the second problem isn't written as maclaurin? its a taylor polynomial centered at c=0, right?

    • @TheAlgebros
      @TheAlgebros  Год назад +4

      It is definitely a Maclaurin polynomial. Sometimes the AP test will just give you the information like what we did in in that problem so you don't have to know that it is the same thing as a Maclaurin. So we are just trying to give you a variety of ways they might word it. But yes, we could have also just stated that it is a Maclaurin polynomial.

    • @thedxrito
      @thedxrito Год назад +1

      @@TheAlgebros thank you for answering, makes sense! love your videos :)

  • @Acoustic_Mutale
    @Acoustic_Mutale Год назад

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  • @장재혁-c5y
    @장재혁-c5y 2 года назад +6

    my class just finished the last unit and the ap test is next week😂

  • @nara5344
    @nara5344 10 месяцев назад

    taking 1as the maximum value for -sin(z) knowing that we have an intervale between 0 to0,2 it's going to width R why take 1??yes is never be larger that 1 but in the intervalle 0 to 0,2 is never going to be bigger than sin0,2

    • @TimothyTomtheThird
      @TimothyTomtheThird 8 месяцев назад

      It’s taking about the y cord instead of the x cord

  • @kibme5189
    @kibme5189 Год назад

    Isn't the answer of the last question the 4th order?

    • @preetamnalla8072
      @preetamnalla8072 Год назад

      should be

    • @catmom1708
      @catmom1708 4 месяца назад

      N=5. It used n+1 in the expression. It is not n+1=5. The table shows when n=5, y=0.6568.

  • @keyz6380
    @keyz6380 Год назад

    One thing I don't understand is that if we can find the exact error, why do we need an error bound?

    • @zappist751
      @zappist751 8 месяцев назад

      Calculus was dumb in the 1700s

  • @1lemn
    @1lemn Год назад

    Thanks......can you solve for us accuracy of cubicRoot(x) in the interval[7,9] while centered at x=8 for a degree 2 expansion??

  • @JDMathematicsAndDataScience
    @JDMathematicsAndDataScience 11 месяцев назад

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  • @samueldarenskiy6893
    @samueldarenskiy6893 7 месяцев назад +1

    Don't forget to write your absolute value signs next time

    • @TheAlgebros
      @TheAlgebros  7 месяцев назад

      No problem! And you don't forget your punctuation at the end of the sentence next time. We'll both be on fleek.

    • @samueldarenskiy6893
      @samueldarenskiy6893 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheAlgebros I didn't mean this as an insult, English isn't my first language.

    • @TheAlgebros
      @TheAlgebros  7 месяцев назад

      @@samueldarenskiy6893 It's all good! We wish you an amazing day ;)

  • @장재혁-c5y
    @장재혁-c5y 2 года назад

    tysm

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    @polygondeath2361 7 месяцев назад

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    @RaxhelHilty 8 месяцев назад

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