CORRECTION: We misspoke and the Heritage Roscoe actually is +P rated! That was not clearly listed in the pre release info we received. Sorry for the confusion. EDIT: We cut the part where Allen mentions this out of the video.
Revolvers worked back in the day for self defense and they'll work today. I've been carrying a Smith 38 J-frame for years and have never felt like I didn't have enough gun to protect myself.
semi auto essential for a high round count full on combat. I carried one in the Army. Pretty much a pop gun compared to everything else in the Arsenal but better than nothing. 6 shots should suffice in normal circumstances. Ignition system and power charge much better than flintlock as is capacity.Knives are even older but still extremely dangerous.
@@badgerrrlattin35 I shot a 2 1/2 Model 19 against a 3" Model 65. Only one could be on my CCW. I chose the 3" M65 as it was just a squidge faster on follow-up shots. Even with fixed sights over adjustable sights on the M19. Just a half inch of difference.
Heritage is well known for it's Rough Rider revolvers in 22LR and 22 Magnum. What they should do now is bring out a top break 22 revolver DA/SA similar to the H&R 999 Sportsman. For those worried about the build quality of a Taurus owned company, I have a Taurus PT92 (a clone of the Beretta 92) and I would challenge anyone to complain about the build quality. I also have a 9mm Taurus revolver which is 100% reliable.
My only complaint about Taurus is that, when they discontinue a gun, it immediately becomes absolutely impossible to get any parts at all for it, even aftermarket parts. Years ago, I bought a PT145 Millennium Pro(with 1 magazine)from a pawn shop and have never been able to find ANY extra parts for it, not even extra magazines.
@joep8787 Not necessarily. I know where to get parts and magazines for my 1903 Colt Pocket that was discontinued in 1945. My dad was able to easily replace the ejector rod knob on a revolver he bought last year. This revolver went out of production in 1972. I can't even find USED parts or magazines for my PT145.
Unfortunately heritage and Taurus do some of the worst cheapest rushed bluing in the industry. You'd be lucky if it held up to being carried for a week before it started to rust.
So excited for mine to show up. Finally ordered one last night. I appreciate these Brazilian companies still producing firearms at an affordable price for the worse-off folks!
I really want this. One day, when I make more, I want a WW1 era Model 10, that’s my unicorn revolver. But this will scratch that retro revolver itch for now for sure
The Roscoe looks like it's essentially a cross between a Taurus 82 and a S&W Model 10. They did a dandy blueing job on it. I love old school .38 revolvers. I've been wanting a Henry .38 for some time, but the Roscoe looks good too.
Henry actually makes their guns to a very high standard with the fit and finish. Each gun is handled with care. Heritage and Taurus on the other hand are rushed out the door and 90% of what they put out should have never left the factory. The bluing looks nice but I can tell you from buying many of their products that it will not last a week of carry before it's covered in rust. Just spend the extra $150 and go buy a used smith. Trust me.
It's a gussied-up Taurus Model 85. They really should've used the 6-shot Model 856 as the base gun for this Roscoe, which would then emulate a Colt Detective Special.,
@@SEO122 regardless it's Taurus junk. If you actually put rounds through your guns or if you actually carry them at all then you would not like their brand. Taurus is for amateurs I'm sorry to say.
I am told by industry insiders that they wanted to make it a tribute to the S&W Model 36 Chief's Special. Maybe they'll move on to the 6-shot Colt Detective Special in due time with an 856 retro version...
I’m loving the Heritage firearms. I have 2 already and looks like I’ll be getting me another “Zeus”. I have a Taurus J frame 5 shot, 2 inch, so this one would be a welcomed addition to my collection. I use mine to train inexperienced shooters and at first they usually ask what’s going on, because they want to shoot the automatics, but after they shoot off about 15 to 20 rounds off the revolvers they usually want to keep shooting. They especially like the reloading. Nothing like learning the basics first.
@@wilfredosoto2722 Having a limited number of rounds on-board helps slow down that initial training, and gives the novice shooter breaks. Starting off on revolvers is a good idea.
Cool gun definitely gonna pick one up. I'm a fudd at heart lol One thing that I always find funny is when people will say if you're not strong enough to rack the slide get a revolver. Ah yes because a 12 pound trigger pull with one finger is so much easier than the slide of a .380 with your whole hand
I understand your comment, but it is less accurate when talking about full-size revolvers. J-frames and their clones do not have room for a longer spring with a progressive rate, so all of the hammer-drop power is concentrated in a small section of spring, which is harder to compress. Larger revolvers have more compliant springs because there is more room for a longer spring, and more room for travel of any of the moving parts. A full-sized revolver is much easier to shoot than a J-frame style revolver, not just because it kicks less and is easier to sight, but because it requires significantly less pressure to operate the trigger between shots. A 6-shot is also moving the cylinder slightly less than a 5-shot. The other end of this spectrum is the 2-shot derringer. You practically have to hit the trigger with a hammer to fire it.
Unfortunately the old Smith & Wesson machinery they are using to build these guns on is over 60 years old. It's worn and blown out. The fit and finish on these guns is terrible
@@jakeroberts7435I agree revolvers are cool and I do occasionally pocket carry one, but the pure firepower you can put down with say a Glock 19 or similar pistol is too much benefit to ignore them.
@@popupheadlights in a SHTF or whatever situation, I'd definitely go a with a Glock or Sig or something comparible. But sometimes around the farm l like to carry a big iron on my hip, just because.
@@popupheadlights If you live in a gang, crime, or war zone. The average person is not going to get through a mag or cylinder let alone have time to reload in a five second gunfight.
Taurus was never og. They are a bargain brand and have only gotten worse over time. I would take an old 90s Taurus 88 before I ever touched something new from them. Everybody I ever knew who bought one had to send it back in for repair and eventually dumped it off and never turn back. Nobody I've ever known who purchased a heritage, taurus, or Rossi ever bought another one. These guns are what I call lesson learners. They will teach you a thing or two about being impatient and how waiting a little bit longer saving up a little bit more money for the better brand and gun is worth it.
Looks quite a bit like the Taurus Model 82, 6 round, I bought in 1990. Loved it but stupidly sold it. The person I sold it too is still shooting it to this day. It's got to have 20,000 rounds + through it. A lot of them were from me early on and they were +p Silver Tips. For those who don't know, Taurus & S&W were owned by the same holding company in the 1960s it think. The two shared tech until the 70s when Taurus was sold to someone else. I own a couple of newer Taurus revolvers and a few S&W revolvers. The trigger pull on all the S&W are superior. Other than that, I don't have a problem with the Tuari. Compare $300\$600 for the Taurus vs $700/$900 for the S&W and decide for yourself but I will be purchasing one of these Roscoes for the back yard range, love the look of the blueing and wood grips.
While it has a Heritqage name, don't let that fool you. It's a Taurus Model 85, which is odd because they had retired that model number for the newer Model 856, the latter holding 6 rounds of .38 Special in a cylinder only 0.050" wider than the 5-shot Model 85. If they had used the 856 as the base gun for this Roscoe, it would've been a lovely tribute to the Colt Detective Special, IMHO.
@@kevingriffin8854 We'll see how available these are and if they are well made. I'm not much of a Heritage fan. My. Guess though is that they're being made by Rossi on the old 88 machinery.
The older Rossi guns were pretty good they were built on Smith & Wesson machinery. The problem is now that they are still using that machinery it's blown out and old. The molds are not good quality and the fit and finish is even worse. I would get an older Rossi before I got one of these but I would get a used Smith & Wesson before anything else. Buy once cry once
For some reason I saw this and just made myself think this was a Henry at first. Then I realized that it's a Heritage. They seem to be putting out some new stuff right now. So I'm kind of excited to see how these do.
With my experience with heritage and Taurus and literally everybody else I know I'm going to say it's not going to end well. I give it 5 years before the internals on these guns are falling apart. I give it a week of Carrie before they are covered in rust
@@666toysoldierI know a couple of Old-Timers who carry wadcutters and honestly it's a terrible idea and it was debunked about 40 years ago that it's a bad idea. They either don't penetrate enough or they don't cause enough damage. 38 is already a week round
I have a Rossi M88 I inherited from an Uncle that looks exactly like this, except its stainless steel. It looks like it’s a copy of the S&W model 60. Rossi also made this revolver with a Blued finish. That was the Model 68 which looks identical to the one in this video.
This says Heritage, but it's really a Taurus Model 85. Looks like Taurus didn't ditch the tooling for the Model 85 after they replaced it with the 856.
@@dancook8583 I have a couple I love them. I have a bunch of 856s and j frames. Taurus did them as well as S&W. Not everyone has had that experience but I certainly have.
Looks good I like revolvers but not for a primary. That being said someday at a certain age I would at least want a six shot. But would definitely carry for a back up.
Although I prefer semi auto pistols, I'm seriously considering buying one of these in 3" barrel. Reasons include the price point, ammo availability, and no frills approach of D/A revolvers. It'll fire +P ammo, ( though I wouldn't make a habit of running + P ) for defense, and plenty of game has been taken over the years with longer barrelled 38 revolvers.
@@GooglyEyedHackerBest trigger ( in my 57 year old opinion) The 3" is light and ergos are perfect( I am an old Ruger revolver fan in general, but Lcrx is top dog. (avoid Buffalo Bore and all the super hot loads as the weight of the pistol will punish you and set in a "flinch" response)
I prefer a decent revolver over a semiauto . That one looks like a S&W but Rossi and Taurus always have and looks much better than those two offerings from Henry . Ech !😮
I'm by no means a new shooter. I've run race guns, 1911s, service pistols, surplus, etc. I simply prefer the revolver system, and have gotten very good with them. I typically carry a S&W K-frame if not a slightly larger gun. Definitely gotta get a couple of these
Mohaska was another name for a gun, named for the chief of the Sioux/Ioway nation which meant white thunder or white cloud. Once a revolver or any gun was fired, it produced a white cloud of smoke, hence the name Mohaska.
@@joe1940 being a Taurus the Roscoe will shoot itself loose in short order. I have a Taurus 85 on which the Rosco is based. Less than 1K rounds and it is loose and sloppy as can be. I do not shoot it anymore. The Rock Island is more durable.
I really like the deep blued finish. Fantastic. Sure beats the dull cerakote over stainless or just stainless. But this Roscoe is a five shot and not +P rated. Glad I got the Taurus 856 Defender three inch six shot +P rated. Just don't like the finish. Yes its durable and cheaper and probably better than blued but it sure doesn't look as good as the deep blued finish.
@@la_old_salt2241 They all should be +P rated. The other thing I don't like about the Roscoe and the Taurus 605s is they are only five shot. Its why the Colt Detective Special was better than a Smith Chief Special model 36. Six shot should be standard with five shot for an option. Lots of folks are opting for Rossi RP63s over Taurus 605s because the RP63 is a six shot for the .357Mags.
@@andrewstephens7246I mean, that IS kinda what revolvers are supposed to be today. They're either art, or they're made for more experimental purposes, like the S&W x frames. I don't think anyone would go for a SA cowboy revolver for self defence, like the Pietta great westerns. I know that because I bought mine because wanted to feel like a cowboy! 😹 Now, I'm not saying you _can't._ I carry a S&W model 642 sometimes, but practically speaking, a semi-auto is better in most situations.
In the 1951 movie titled “Detective Story” Kirk Douglas’ character yells to another detective to, “watch the Roscoe” due to a suspect reaching for a drawer that contains the detective’s revolver.
@@la_old_salt2241 My thoughts was that 38 would be better than 357 ( bigger anyway) I just wondered if there was a particular advantage of the latter (357) since the commenter didn't want the 38.
Dan Wesson made some contract revolvers for Heritage. They made some 6 shot 357’s. I saw one in 4inch recently on ‘simpsonltd’. go for 5 Ben Franklins.
Will it take J Frame grips? I have an old Bianchi Lightening grip (it shrouds the hammer) I would love this for. And yes, sometimes I get the grip and then the gun...{!-{>
Easier a gun is to carry, Harder to shoot. I like the 3 inch barrel, because 38 spl was converted from Black Powder to Smokeless Powder.. The size of the brass is too big for the amount of smokeless powder used. So, sights are farther apart makes it easier to be accurate. Always have to make sure that gun produces enuff velocity to get hollowpoint ammo to expand. (Umless used as a Training revolver to shoot 357 Magnum later.)
You can hear the tool marks on the ejector rod. That "zip" sound when he works the ejector rod is the spiral cut by the lathe rubbing against its mating surface. Typical Taurus quality, just get an old Model 36
Since the Taurus acquisition, I can't find a reason to purchase this. I am told it holds 5 rounds. For $30 less, you can own the Taurus 856 and carry 6 rounds. If the Roscoe was made IN Georgia, I would be all in...but here we are.
It will probably be cheaper, especially since it's not rated for + P. Heritage used to sell .357's, and they have a rifle now. They just came out with a SxS shotgun too.
Think of it exactly like how Rossi was back in the 70's-80's. They bought (generally not saying Heritage did do this, but I bet you money they did) older patent revolvers from a known brand and tooling, started manufacture in Brazil because of labor cost, slight downgrade to finish over their original manufacturer, otherwise literally the same gun in almost all respects. My grandfather owned a Rossi Model 68, which was *just* a Smith & Wesson Model 36 with a different name. Exactly near the same, for less money. This will be true of this Heritage, but just for Taurus. Taurus likely got the idea from when Smith & Wesson and them were the same company.
It IS a Taurus revolver, a polished Model 85 if you see it up close. Evidently, they found a use for the 5-shot Model 85's tooling after discontinuing it for the 6-shot Model 856.
CORRECTION:
We misspoke and the Heritage Roscoe actually is +P rated! That was not clearly listed in the pre release info we received. Sorry for the confusion.
EDIT: We cut the part where Allen mentions this out of the video.
Will it turn loose as my Taurus 85 if you do?
That makes more sense.
That's nice to know.
No you didn't edit it out...{!-{>
Thanks, I was going to say on their site is says + P rated. Also Allen still says it, but thank you for the clarification here.
Revolvers worked back in the day for self defense and they'll work today. I've been carrying a Smith 38 J-frame for years and have never felt like I didn't have enough gun to protect myself.
Basically same as 9mm and same amount of bullets that's in some single stack semi micros. Love a revolver myself
Single shot flintlocks worked back in the day, too. But times have changed.
semi auto essential for a high round count full on combat. I carried one in the Army. Pretty much a pop gun compared to everything else in the Arsenal but better than nothing. 6 shots should suffice in normal circumstances. Ignition system and power charge much better than flintlock as is capacity.Knives are even older but still extremely dangerous.
I wish Heritage would come out with a double action 22lr or 22mag revolver like this Roscoe.
Same here I'll take two please..lol
Absolutely
Ditto
I do love a 3" revolver . This little gun has potential.
I agree. For some reason that extra magic inch of barrel increases accuracy wildly. Difference twixt a 3" and a 4" is not near as much.
@@badgerrrlattin35 I shot a 2 1/2 Model 19 against a 3" Model 65. Only one could be on my CCW. I chose the 3" M65 as it was just a squidge faster on follow-up shots. Even with fixed sights over adjustable sights on the M19. Just a half inch of difference.
😊@@frankhinkle5772
Until you notice it says heritage on the side. That bluing will rust in a week. The internal parts will break within 300 rounds. Huge pass. Trust me
@@hankwilliams-hx9ww Well hank haters gota hate, do you also hate Taurus and Rossi?
Heritage is well known for it's Rough Rider revolvers in 22LR and 22 Magnum. What they should do now is bring out a top break 22 revolver DA/SA similar to the H&R 999 Sportsman. For those worried about the build quality of a Taurus owned company, I have a Taurus PT92 (a clone of the Beretta 92) and I would challenge anyone to complain about the build quality. I also have a 9mm Taurus revolver which is 100% reliable.
Yeah Taurus has fixed all the bad stuff that they were known for years ago. They make some good stuff nowadays.
My only complaint about Taurus is that, when they discontinue a gun, it immediately becomes absolutely impossible to get any parts at all for it, even aftermarket parts. Years ago, I bought a PT145 Millennium Pro(with 1 magazine)from a pawn shop and have never been able to find ANY extra parts for it, not even extra magazines.
@@txgunguy2766 Isn't that true with any gun that's discontinued?
@joep8787
Not necessarily. I know where to get parts and magazines for my 1903 Colt Pocket that was discontinued in 1945. My dad was able to easily replace the ejector rod knob on a revolver he bought last year. This revolver went out of production in 1972.
I can't even find USED parts or magazines for my PT145.
@@joep8787
No, it isn't.
I love that it’s blued…
Unfortunately heritage and Taurus do some of the worst cheapest rushed bluing in the industry. You'd be lucky if it held up to being carried for a week before it started to rust.
Oil your gun, and carry out of waistband.
@@Beuwen_The_Dragon this is actually a very good method for blue guns but it still won't save the cheaper done ones. Just ask my windicator
@@hankwilliams-hx9wwHad mine for three months, no problems.
So excited for mine to show up. Finally ordered one last night. I appreciate these Brazilian companies still producing firearms at an affordable price for the worse-off folks!
I own one in 2in and love it
My late uncle was a police detective, and used to say, “Don’t worry, I brought Roscoe with me.” 👍👍👍👍
Just wanted to say that I heard that name in an episode of the Andy Griffith show Barney call’s his gun the old Roscoe. Nice gun!!!
Barney with his one bullet, haha.
A 3" J frame, that is an interesting choice.
It would be nice if companies would have their product available when it is released to the Press.
I really want this. One day, when I make more, I want a WW1 era Model 10, that’s my unicorn revolver. But this will scratch that retro revolver itch for now for sure
The Roscoe looks like it's essentially a cross between a Taurus 82 and a S&W Model 10. They did a dandy blueing job on it. I love old school .38 revolvers. I've been wanting a Henry .38 for some time, but the Roscoe looks good too.
Henry actually makes their guns to a very high standard with the fit and finish. Each gun is handled with care.
Heritage and Taurus on the other hand are rushed out the door and 90% of what they put out should have never left the factory.
The bluing looks nice but I can tell you from buying many of their products that it will not last a week of carry before it's covered in rust.
Just spend the extra $150 and go buy a used smith. Trust me.
It's a gussied-up Taurus Model 85. They really should've used the 6-shot Model 856 as the base gun for this Roscoe, which would then emulate a Colt Detective Special.,
@@SEO122 regardless it's Taurus junk. If you actually put rounds through your guns or if you actually carry them at all then you would not like their brand. Taurus is for amateurs I'm sorry to say.
@@SEO122 I was hoping these’d be 6-shot when I first saw ‘em. No idea why they went with 5-shot.
I am told by industry insiders that they wanted to make it a tribute to the S&W Model 36 Chief's Special. Maybe they'll move on to the 6-shot Colt Detective Special in due time with an 856 retro version...
I’m loving the Heritage firearms. I have 2 already and looks like I’ll be getting me another “Zeus”. I have a Taurus J frame 5 shot, 2 inch, so this one would be a welcomed addition to my collection. I use mine to train inexperienced shooters and at first they usually ask what’s going on, because they want to shoot the automatics, but after they shoot off about 15 to 20 rounds off the revolvers they usually want to keep shooting. They especially like the reloading. Nothing like learning the basics first.
@@wilfredosoto2722 Having a limited number of rounds on-board helps slow down that initial training, and gives the novice shooter breaks. Starting off on revolvers is a good idea.
Cool gun definitely gonna pick one up. I'm a fudd at heart lol
One thing that I always find funny is when people will say if you're not strong enough to rack the slide get a revolver. Ah yes because a 12 pound trigger pull with one finger is so much easier than the slide of a .380 with your whole hand
Your fingers tend to be stronger than your arms
@@servicetrucker5564 nope, that is incorrect sir.
@@zorgath420 Okay
I understand your comment, but it is less accurate when talking about full-size revolvers.
J-frames and their clones do not have room for a longer spring with a progressive rate, so all of the hammer-drop power is concentrated in a small section of spring, which is harder to compress.
Larger revolvers have more compliant springs because there is more room for a longer spring, and more room for travel of any of the moving parts.
A full-sized revolver is much easier to shoot than a J-frame style revolver, not just because it kicks less and is easier to sight, but because it requires significantly less pressure to operate the trigger between shots.
A 6-shot is also moving the cylinder slightly less than a 5-shot.
The other end of this spectrum is the 2-shot derringer. You practically have to hit the trigger with a hammer to fire it.
That's soo sentimental ,,,piece of history ,,major cool...thanks for showing great show
I have an early 1990’s Rossi M88 that looks just like this.
The Smith & Wesson rotates counter-clockwise too... except for that new M&P 5 shot polymer frame they're making, it goes clockwise.
Revolvers are awesome.
Very cool! I love J-frames!
Unfortunately the old Smith & Wesson machinery they are using to build these guns on is over 60 years old. It's worn and blown out. The fit and finish on these guns is terrible
Will absolutely be interested
I do love Semi autos but there's a certain charm to a revolver
I know right, l never saw Wild Bill or any of the old timers carrying semi autos, they had class. 🐴
@@jakeroberts7435I agree revolvers are cool and I do occasionally pocket carry one, but the pure firepower you can put down with say a Glock 19 or similar pistol is too much benefit to ignore them.
@@popupheadlights in a SHTF or whatever situation, I'd definitely go a with a Glock or Sig or something comparible. But sometimes around the farm l like to carry a big iron on my hip, just because.
2 of everything 😂😂😂
@@popupheadlights If you live in a gang, crime, or war zone. The average person is not going to get through a mag or cylinder let alone have time to reload in a five second gunfight.
Nice gun I want one now.
The OG is back
Taurus was never og. They are a bargain brand and have only gotten worse over time. I would take an old 90s Taurus 88 before I ever touched something new from them. Everybody I ever knew who bought one had to send it back in for repair and eventually dumped it off and never turn back. Nobody I've ever known who purchased a heritage, taurus, or Rossi ever bought another one. These guns are what I call lesson learners. They will teach you a thing or two about being impatient and how waiting a little bit longer saving up a little bit more money for the better brand and gun is worth it.
Looks quite a bit like the Taurus Model 82, 6 round, I bought in 1990. Loved it but stupidly sold it. The person I sold it too is still shooting it to this day. It's got to have 20,000 rounds + through it. A lot of them were from me early on and they were +p Silver Tips. For those who don't know, Taurus & S&W were owned by the same holding company in the 1960s it think. The two shared tech until the 70s when Taurus was sold to someone else. I own a couple of newer Taurus revolvers and a few S&W revolvers. The trigger pull on all the S&W are superior. Other than that, I don't have a problem with the Tuari. Compare $300\$600 for the Taurus vs $700/$900 for the S&W and decide for yourself but I will be purchasing one of these Roscoes for the back yard range, love the look of the blueing and wood grips.
Does S&W still use the external lock key?
@@jonyoung6405Believe so
While it has a Heritqage name, don't let that fool you. It's a Taurus Model 85, which is odd because they had retired that model number for the newer Model 856, the latter holding 6 rounds of .38 Special in a cylinder only 0.050" wider than the 5-shot Model 85. If they had used the 856 as the base gun for this Roscoe, it would've been a lovely tribute to the Colt Detective Special, IMHO.
That was a good review. First time that I have watched this channel. Wheel guns are real guns!
Looks like one of the older Rossi revolvers.
Like a Rossi 88.
Greg, review one of these for us!
@@kevingriffin8854 We'll see how available these are and if they are well made. I'm not much of a Heritage fan. My. Guess though is that they're being made by Rossi on the old 88 machinery.
Reminds me of the Taurus 85 3-inch they used to make.
The older Rossi guns were pretty good they were built on Smith & Wesson machinery. The problem is now that they are still using that machinery it's blown out and old. The molds are not good quality and the fit and finish is even worse. I would get an older Rossi before I got one of these but I would get a used Smith & Wesson before anything else. Buy once cry once
Something similar in ,327 would be amazing. I love my inherited s&w hand ejector in .32L
Taurus makes a 327.
Great video. I hate to think about the nice revolvers I sold back in the 90's to buy semiautos. Wish I had kept every one of them.
Just right for wad-cutters . I will have to check it out.
Thank you for this on the Rosco.
Nice for a backup
It's too big for a back up with only 5 rounds, you could get a PSA dagger compact with a 15 round mag that is smaller in size
For some reason I saw this and just made myself think this was a Henry at first. Then I realized that it's a Heritage. They seem to be putting out some new stuff right now. So I'm kind of excited to see how these do.
With my experience with heritage and Taurus and literally everybody else I know I'm going to say it's not going to end well. I give it 5 years before the internals on these guns are falling apart. I give it a week of Carrie before they are covered in rust
It's interesting that Taurus revived their defunct 5-shot Model 85 for this, instead of using the 6-shot 856 as the base gun...
Reminds me of the early 90s Rossi revolver, 5 shot 38 Special.
One of those is my bedroom gun, loaded with wadcutters.
👊🏻🔥🍺
Those were much better and stronger guns. Heritage makes pure junk. These will not last
@@666toysoldierI know a couple of Old-Timers who carry wadcutters and honestly it's a terrible idea and it was debunked about 40 years ago that it's a bad idea. They either don't penetrate enough or they don't cause enough damage. 38 is already a week round
@@hankwilliams-hx9ww It's not a Heritage manufactured gun - it's a gussied-up Taurus Model 85. It will last just fine.
I have a Rossi M88 I inherited from an Uncle that looks exactly like this, except its stainless steel. It looks like it’s a copy of the S&W model 60. Rossi also made this revolver with a Blued finish. That was the Model 68 which looks identical to the one in this video.
This says Heritage, but it's really a Taurus Model 85. Looks like Taurus didn't ditch the tooling for the Model 85 after they replaced it with the 856.
@SEO122 That's not a bad thing, the 85 works just fine.
That's a beautiful finish, love the snubnose version.
I guess after Taurus came out with the 856 they had to do something with their Model 85 tooling.
The model 85 is a great little gun.
@@dancook8583 I have a couple I love them. I have a bunch of 856s and j frames. Taurus did them as well as S&W. Not everyone has had that experience but I certainly have.
Love the name. My 12 year old GSP is Roscoe. He is my house protector.
I love revolvers
One of my favorite openers!! Always good stuff man! ❤
Looks good I like revolvers but not for a primary. That being said someday at a certain age I would at least want a six shot. But would definitely carry for a back up.
Maybe they'll make on on the Taurus 856 vs. the Taurus 85, then we'll have our 6-shot Roscoe.
Although I prefer semi auto pistols, I'm seriously considering buying one of these in 3" barrel.
Reasons include the price point, ammo availability, and no frills approach of D/A revolvers.
It'll fire +P ammo, ( though I wouldn't make a habit of running + P ) for defense, and plenty of game has been taken over the years with longer barrelled 38 revolvers.
Revolvers are a elegant weapon for a more civilized age.
I have felt the absence of a new-manufacture svelte 3" revolver in the market for ages.
Ruger LCRx 3"
@@cloud5buster I had no idea the LCRx3 existed. Thanks!
@@GooglyEyedHacker I have one, as well as an LCR .357 snubbie and love them both.
@@GooglyEyedHackerBest trigger ( in my 57 year old opinion) The 3" is light and ergos are perfect( I am an old Ruger revolver fan in general, but Lcrx is top dog. (avoid Buffalo Bore and all the super hot loads as the weight of the pistol will punish you and set in a "flinch" response)
I prefer a decent revolver over a semiauto . That one looks like a S&W but Rossi and Taurus always have and looks much better than those two offerings from Henry . Ech !😮
It's beautiful, and I love my Taurus.856
I love my Heritage Rough Rider, I might have to pick one of these up!
I'm by no means a new shooter. I've run race guns, 1911s, service pistols, surplus, etc. I simply prefer the revolver system, and have gotten very good with them. I typically carry a S&W K-frame if not a slightly larger gun. Definitely gotta get a couple of these
Would be cooler in 32 H&R mag, probably wouldn’t sell as well as 38 though
I agree completely! I have a Rough Rider in 32 h&r and love it. 327 might even be more interesting...
Charter Arms have several revolvers in .32 H&R mag.
Agree. I’d like a 32 in this beautiful revolver.
For $100 than the RIA revolver, this is great. I do with there was a 6 shooter version.
Mohaska was another name for a gun, named for the chief of the Sioux/Ioway nation which meant white thunder or white cloud.
Once a revolver or any gun was fired, it produced a white cloud of smoke, hence the name Mohaska.
"roscoe"
"heater"
"burner"
"gat"
"strap"
"cueta"
anyone know any else?
@@skim193 Shooter
That one is London underworld slag.
You might as well by a Rock Island Armory .38spl., at least they're rated for +P.
@scenicdriveways6708 In a small concealable J frame? I don't think so. RIA M200 is a larger frame like a K/L frame revolver.
+P though...
It's closer to a k. L is quite a bit larger. The RIA is basically a colt.
The fit and finish on the RIAs isn't that great, they look like something someone made in their garage.
@@joe1940 being a Taurus the Roscoe will shoot itself loose in short order.
I have a Taurus 85 on which the Rosco is based. Less than 1K rounds and it is loose and sloppy as can be. I do not shoot it anymore.
The Rock Island is more durable.
I really like the deep blued finish. Fantastic. Sure beats the dull cerakote over stainless or just stainless. But this Roscoe is a five shot and not +P rated. Glad I got the Taurus 856 Defender three inch six shot +P rated. Just don't like the finish. Yes its durable and cheaper and probably better than blued but it sure doesn't look as good as the deep blued finish.
They corrected that comment, it IS plus P rated.
@@la_old_salt2241 They all should be +P rated. The other thing I don't like about the Roscoe and the Taurus 605s is they are only five shot. Its why the Colt Detective Special was better than a Smith Chief Special model 36. Six shot should be standard with five shot for an option. Lots of folks are opting for Rossi RP63s over Taurus 605s because the RP63 is a six shot for the .357Mags.
a fine looking revolver
Will take care of business.
Depends if its not overpriced
I feel like most revolvers are overpriced for what they offer. Seems like they try presenting them as art pieces and not tools.
Agreed, I love the 206 from ria
@@cb3391 And you have 6 instead of 5.
It would be the first overpriced Heritage gun, so I doubt it
@@andrewstephens7246I mean, that IS kinda what revolvers are supposed to be today. They're either art, or they're made for more experimental purposes, like the S&W x frames.
I don't think anyone would go for a SA cowboy revolver for self defence, like the Pietta great westerns. I know that because I bought mine because wanted to feel like a cowboy! 😹
Now, I'm not saying you _can't._ I carry a S&W model 642 sometimes, but practically speaking, a semi-auto is better in most situations.
Thanks for the great video, very informative 👍
An actual Roscoe !
Nice. 😊
Beautiful gun, I’d love to know the process point
In the 1951 movie titled “Detective Story” Kirk Douglas’ character yells to another detective to, “watch the Roscoe” due to a suspect reaching for a drawer that contains the detective’s revolver.
Arent Taurus revolvers made in Brazil too?
Some comment mentioned that Heritage is owned by Taurus
They got it the cylinder turning the same way as smith so why isn’t it locked at the front?
Wished it came in 357 but 38 is cool. I'm looking to get a 357 as a EDC and use a bersa 380 thunder 9mm short as a backup.
As somebody who knows nothing about guns may I ask why?
@@reluctantheist5224Why not?
@@la_old_salt2241 My thoughts was that 38 would be better than 357 ( bigger anyway) I just wondered if there was a particular advantage of the latter (357) since the commenter didn't want the 38.
@@reluctantheist5224 Well, you can fire .38 Special out of a .357 gun. So might as well go with .357 for the dual utility.
Dan Wesson made some contract revolvers for Heritage. They made some 6 shot 357’s. I saw one in 4inch recently on ‘simpsonltd’. go for 5 Ben Franklins.
"Not +P"??? That killed it for me.
Do you know who makes aftermarket grips for the Rosco?
Very nice revolver! Maybe add to my collection!
Will it take J Frame grips? I have an old Bianchi Lightening grip (it shrouds the hammer) I would love this for.
And yes, sometimes I get the grip and then the gun...{!-{>
Easier a gun is to carry, Harder to shoot. I like the 3 inch barrel, because 38 spl was converted from Black Powder to Smokeless Powder.. The size of the brass is too big for the amount of smokeless powder used. So, sights are farther apart makes it easier to be accurate. Always have to make sure that gun produces enuff velocity to get hollowpoint ammo to expand. (Umless used as a Training revolver to shoot 357 Magnum later.)
Sixty years ago in Chicago it would be called a “beanie”. That expression was mostly used by police.
Had to have one too cool vibe just ordered one
I saw the Heritage Roscoe and was hoping this was a Heritage Arms. You couldn't give me a Taurus.
I saw one for $330 + 25 , but only one.
They need to make a 22 style Schofield!
I looked on your site for this. Is it not available yet from Olde English Outfitters?
Nice looking gun.
Saw a 1933 movie, The Bowery, "Gimme that Roscoe".
Add a Tyler “T” grip. Now you have the perfect setup
Do these work with HKS speedloaders?
So it's a classed up 856 basically?
They're going to sell quite a few of these.
The new england website claims will shoot +p..
Is the same price as the Taurus 856 with the 3 inch .
Looks like a nice gun
You can hear the tool marks on the ejector rod. That "zip" sound when he works the ejector rod is the spiral cut by the lathe rubbing against its mating surface. Typical Taurus quality, just get an old Model 36
Can't find it on the Heritage site!
I don't see them on the Heritage website.
Many, many moons ago is when they were made.
That's a Taurus 85 with Heritage name on it.
There are on Gun broker. Price is $349.
Pretty reasonable
Since the Taurus acquisition, I can't find a reason to purchase this. I am told it holds 5 rounds. For $30 less, you can own the Taurus 856 and carry 6 rounds. If the Roscoe was made IN Georgia, I would be all in...but here we are.
Nice. If it came in four five you only need 5 rounds.Cheers
Rosco, I love it! Me wants.
Does it have a stupid safety on the left side??
Damon Runyon called it a John Roscoe in his story Joe the Joker.
So what's the difference between this and a Taurus revolver?
It will probably be cheaper, especially since it's not rated for + P. Heritage used to sell
.357's, and they have a rifle now. They just came out with a SxS shotgun too.
Think of it exactly like how Rossi was back in the 70's-80's. They bought (generally not saying Heritage did do this, but I bet you money they did) older patent revolvers from a known brand and tooling, started manufacture in Brazil because of labor cost, slight downgrade to finish over their original manufacturer, otherwise literally the same gun in almost all respects. My grandfather owned a Rossi Model 68, which was *just* a Smith & Wesson Model 36 with a different name. Exactly near the same, for less money. This will be true of this Heritage, but just for Taurus. Taurus likely got the idea from when Smith & Wesson and them were the same company.
It looks quite a bit different
It IS a Taurus revolver, a polished Model 85 if you see it up close. Evidently, they found a use for the 5-shot Model 85's tooling after discontinuing it for the 6-shot Model 856.
@@jimmeli5200 Who told you it wasn't rated for +P. HInt - it is rated for +P, just like the steel frame Taurus Model 85 it's made from!
When will this be available and how much MSRP
Love a nice wheel gun
You had me at revolver 😊
Wish it had a 6”
A remake of the Rossi model 68... and that's a good thing.
It's not a remake, it's just a gussied-up Taurus Model 85.
I hope it will be available in California.
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