Blistering Resolution | Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12K | First Look

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024

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  • @jaegermah
    @jaegermah 4 года назад +52

    Dude, you’re worth your weight in gold! Love all your reviews. -> No cheesy jokes, useless life commentary.. just awesome / straightforward details and a cheerful delivery. Thank you for all your carefully crafted hard work.

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for such a kind comment, and thanks for watching!
      Dan

    • @Johanniscool
      @Johanniscool 4 года назад +1

      I could put up with the occasional cheesy joke 😂

    • @billyoung9538
      @billyoung9538 3 года назад +1

      @@Johanniscool even a cheese plate joke even though they're a little screwy.

    • @rich8037
      @rich8037 3 года назад

      Yeah, I second this. No-nonsense presentation and, despite basically being there to sell the thing, not averse to voicing the odd mild criticism - it's nice to know there are a few people on RUclips one can still take seriously :-)

  • @theSUBVERSIVE
    @theSUBVERSIVE 4 года назад +7

    BlackMagic has been quite innovative and a breath of fresh air in the industry. BRAW is a different approach to RAW, which decreases file size and it's less taxing on PC and now a different approach to camera sensors as well. Kudos for BlackMagic!

  • @TylerEdwards
    @TylerEdwards 4 года назад +9

    Blackmagic knocked it out of the park with this camera mainly because of the sensor tech. I can't wait to see this sensor tech find its way into a smaller body!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +2

      Indeed, the new sensor tech is very exiting!
      Dan

  • @JoshBenBernales
    @JoshBenBernales 4 года назад +30

    Would love to see BM come out with a new pocket cam that's in something similar to the C70 body with internal ND's!

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +3

      That would be great for sure!
      Dan

    • @dre66roc
      @dre66roc 3 года назад

      And full Frame

    • @JoshBenBernales
      @JoshBenBernales 3 года назад

      @@dre66roc full frame or S35 would be great.

    • @billyoung9538
      @billyoung9538 3 года назад

      I would be happy if they took this new sensor design and made a 6k, super35 replacement for the micro cinema camera. I prefer a tiny brain I can build out from as typically people add an external monitor to most of their other cameras anyhow.

    • @franchocou
      @franchocou 3 года назад

      Better than micro loser third

  • @kanthimathimagesh6411
    @kanthimathimagesh6411 3 года назад +1

    I love that they allow devlopers to download thier software's source code to do basically anything they want. I love this as a devloper. Great video. U earned a sub 👍🏽

  • @Keepingitsimp
    @Keepingitsimp 4 года назад +3

    The camera that is going to change the industry

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +2

      Quite possibly, its early days yet, but we're very excited about this new sensor design.
      Dan

  • @markjob6354
    @markjob6354 3 года назад

    *I so appreciate your camera breakdowns and reviews. No baseball cap headed pointless pontifications from individuals who clearly have no formation in commercial videography - Just the facts delivered clearly and concisely. Thank You ! This camera is quite the mind blowing achievement. Even on RUclips, which crushes your blacks and highlights and reduces your colour signal to an anemic 4:2:0 8 bit quality, the footage out of the Ursa Mini Pro 12K looks significantly superior to anything else I have seen (Except for the Lumix S1H 6K resolution RAW footage). Clearly, as extreme a proposition 12K origination might well be, it makes RUclips look like non-RUclips playback. I agree 8K would be the "sweet spot" in production for 4K Netflix delivery. I am saving up my shekels to order one in the near future.*

  • @Supperconductor
    @Supperconductor 4 года назад +4

    It’s RAW!!! Sorry I couldn’t resist.

  • @meninjey
    @meninjey 4 года назад +1

    your reviews are pure gold

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 4 года назад +12

    So stoked for this, even if I'll never be able to upgrade my 4.6k to it

    • @RichardsWorld
      @RichardsWorld 4 года назад

      You don't need more toys like this bro.

    • @deividaslaukionis
      @deividaslaukionis 3 года назад

      If you decide to upgrade 4 years from now. Hit me up :DDDD I want URSA :3 I might be able to afford it then :DDD

  • @CallMeChato
    @CallMeChato 4 года назад

    Definitely need this for my RUclips channel. Will have to covert the living room to back up and storage racks but it will be worth it.

  • @trevorreedstudios
    @trevorreedstudios 2 года назад

    Mind blow. Great review Carl.

  • @robertsaca3512
    @robertsaca3512 3 года назад

    Nice review, it was difficult to find a good review condensed without fluff.
    Not only was this a good camera for the money a year ago, it's now only $5K, which is absolutely bonkers.

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld 4 года назад +1

    Lots of pixels in a small sensor. How is the lowlight performance?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад

      We haven't shot any proper tests yet with the camera, although from what we've seen so far I wouldn't say this is a good camera to shoot in low light situations. Much like the previous URSA Mini Pro's it's much better suited to brighter environments.
      Dan

  • @-TKMAX-
    @-TKMAX- 3 года назад

    Great video, that is some mad data! I really recognise the landscape but can't put my finger on it. Where was it filmed?

  • @noahfierravanti2039
    @noahfierravanti2039 3 года назад

    Loved the video!
    Which lenses were used for the test footage?
    There is some heavy chromatic abberation going on...

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  3 года назад

      We're glad you enjoyed it. So all the seafront footage was shot on the DZO Pictor zooms, which do suffer heavily from chromatic aberration. The footage in the forest was shot on the Laowa Ooom.
      Both of which we've released videos on.
      DZO: ruclips.net/video/c3MyXvSQnX0/видео.html
      Laowa: ruclips.net/video/7OdD-zTGrUA/видео.html
      Dan

  • @jeffsaffron5647
    @jeffsaffron5647 3 года назад

    Nice overview but I would like to know more about the image.
    What about the moire issue? How is the low light? Is image usable straight from the camera via SDI for example in live production use? Or is post-production grading must? Thanks

  • @grasworxTTGameplan
    @grasworxTTGameplan 4 года назад

    PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 drives can easily cope with 5000Mbps sequential write speeds. What Blackmagic has done here is plant its foot squarely in the future of digital media capture. I remember when firewire drives replaced MiniDV tapes and the way those HDDs changed the came. This datastream is going to seem pedestrian in the next three or so years. Most camera owners will shoot with the same camera for 5-10 years anyway, so this is just good sense from BMD

  • @sorvismedia274
    @sorvismedia274 4 года назад

    Now i'm waiting for the BMPCC8K

  • @smoogles
    @smoogles 4 года назад +4

    Can you check out the IR pollution, out of camera color against some other cameras, moire etc?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +4

      We may make more videos testing the camera if there's the demand for it! But what we can say so far from using the camera is that we haven't noticed any IR pollution, Blackmagic has had long fixed the issues that plagued their earlier cameras. And we haven't come across moire issues when out shooting with the camera yet. We've seen some during some when pointing the camera at a focus chart, and people elsewhere online have reported some moire issues, but we have yet to come across anything major in our use with the camera so far.
      Dan

    • @RubenStuveling
      @RubenStuveling 3 года назад

      @@ProAVTV What are you talking about? Moire and IR polution is definitly present in their current 4K and 6K pocket camera's. And maybe because of this sensor tech the moire could be less of a problem but IR polution is definitly there. It is in your test footage even! They don't use an OLPF with IR filtration like normal camera manufacturers do.

  • @kolecava
    @kolecava 3 года назад

    Looking to upgrade in next two years up from my P4K so still debating what to get. While BM has great colours and I love what the company stands for and is doing in the industry at the same time something like FX9/C300 MKIII has some bells and whistles such as weather resistance body and "sturdiness" of the lens mount (heard a lot of BM cams suffer this). I guess controlled environment and set life Ursa shines but if you are out and about in various conditions then maybe not so much.

    • @jeffsaffron5647
      @jeffsaffron5647 3 года назад

      Get A7SIII, if you need more video functions (ND, XLR, SDI, bigger batteries) get FX6. This URSA has so many issues:
      - Image: poor low light, color moire having image ready in camera.
      - Weight: No gimbal can hold it, needs nothing short of steadicam.
      - Post-warranty repair: AFAIK there as very little servicing available from BMD.

  • @publictt4923
    @publictt4923 4 года назад +2

    Amazing, please make more BMU12K video's.
    Same people say the camera has moire problem, please tell your opinion on that...

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +2

      From what we've shot so far with the camera, we haven't seen a huge amount yet. We have seen some moire when pointed at a focus chart, but haven't yet come across any issues when out and about shooting with the camera. Although we have seen people talking about moire elsewhere online.
      Dan

    • @publictt4923
      @publictt4923 4 года назад

      @@ProAVTV will blackmagic solve the moire problem or is up to us !

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +2

      ​@@publictt4923 It's hard to say, but we'll likely see third party solutions like OLPF's that could help with any potential issues.
      Dan

    • @publictt4923
      @publictt4923 4 года назад +2

      @@ProAVTV if any solution come's for the moire problem in the BMU12K, please make a video for it.
      Thank you for your reply, you guys are the best.

  • @ShahriyarAli
    @ShahriyarAli 4 года назад +3

    I don't need it; but I really want it!

  • @henryrivera7895
    @henryrivera7895 4 года назад

    Good review just commenting to boost that youtube algorithm

  • @BadassMoFo.
    @BadassMoFo. 3 года назад

    I gotta admit, I want that camera

  • @geoffreybassett6741
    @geoffreybassett6741 4 года назад

    Honestly the lack of dynamic range for this camera is very disappointing compared to the competition, or even the previous ursa. Also wish they at least included Prores as an option on the camera in 4K and 2K. I do absolutely LOVE the BRAW codec though. Great overview and footage from the cam!

    • @joellouisfire
      @joellouisfire 4 года назад

      Looking at the spec sheet I'd say the same thing, although most cameras don't perform as well in the DR department as their specs say. So if the Ursa can truly hit 14 stops with nice Highlight Rolloff then I think it'll still be impressive.

    • @EnviroNews
      @EnviroNews 3 года назад

      Try shooting with this camera a stop or two overexposed. You may find very good results when you go to do your grading.

  • @mobbyboss
    @mobbyboss 3 года назад

    Were you able to view and edit footage on Resolve 16 or only 17? I'm having problems with 16 viewing or editing any of my Ursa 12k footage, but still using resolve 16.

  • @laurencechase5439
    @laurencechase5439 4 года назад +3

    I've heard this camera has big problems with moire, have you experienced that Carl?

    • @knocknapeasta
      @knocknapeasta 4 года назад

      I'm curious about this as well! Also as it's higher resolution than a lot of glass you can couple to it was designed to be used, how does it handle chromatic aberrations within the image? Exciting stuff none the less.

    • @laurencechase5439
      @laurencechase5439 4 года назад

      @@knocknapeasta If you have time check out @Epic Light Media on RUclips, they have a couple videos covering this camera. Bit silly but worth a watch!

    • @joellouisfire
      @joellouisfire 4 года назад

      @@laurencechase5439 They're so silly that I can't trust their reviews. I'd say take their word with a grain of salt. I much prefer hearing the opinion of Carl and other trustworthy reviewers, like Philip Bloom.

    • @AdamSzarmack
      @AdamSzarmack 4 года назад +2

      @@joellouisfire I disagree. Epic Light Media can absolutely be trusted. They are huge BM fans which is why they are honest about the cameras because they just want what's best for BM and all of us users. The fact they incorporate humor into their videos has nothing to do with how trustworthy they may or may not be. They're good entertainment while also being informative.

    • @joellouisfire
      @joellouisfire 4 года назад

      @@AdamSzarmackThe last thing I want to do is spread negativity, especially about other content creators. That being said, I do like the host and he presents well. I used to be subscribed to them actually, but I've felt their recent videos have been filled with a lot of misinformation, so then you add too much humor to the mix and it doesn't jibe with me. At least that's my opinion, but I also value yours. They're just not my cup of tea.

  • @rollingchilling
    @rollingchilling 3 года назад

    thank you for sharing! liked and subscribed.

  • @dpjohnjones432
    @dpjohnjones432 3 года назад

    Color accuracy in mixed lighting scenarios is a big deal. That is one of my hang-ups with the A7SIII. It suffers in that department even in comparison to the BP6k. And a file size comparison to ProRes Raw out of the A7Siii is like 811 MB/s and 12k 5:1 out of the URSA 12k Pro is only 578MB/s. That is crazy how much more manageable BRAW is even at 12k not to mention 8k which is still superior.

  • @Cr0no
    @Cr0no 4 года назад

    Grant Petty of Blackmagic explained that in order to make a good 8K camera, you have to make a 12K camera so I guess the take away from this is that you should treat this as a 8K camera. I'd really like to know more about what this camera can do and I'm wonder if there's a customisable frame rate (looking for 22fps for action scenes, for instance). I'm super interested but waiting for others to play with it after a few firmware patches before I get one I think...

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +1

      Treating this as an 8K camera is a great way to think about it, especially when the quality of the 8K is stellar!
      Dan

    • @EnviroNews
      @EnviroNews 3 года назад +1

      You are in luck! This camera has an off-frame recording feature that allows you to film in whatever frame-rate you want! We like 48 fps for high action because it blends nicely to the eye with 24 fps.

    • @Cr0no
      @Cr0no 3 года назад +1

      @@EnviroNews Ahh thanks! They didn't show this feature in the spec sheet on the website or I might have just looked past it.

  • @iamkubrick
    @iamkubrick 4 года назад

    Great sensor. I just wish they’d put better OLPFs in front of it. The morie and IR contamination has always ruined my experience with Blackmagic. I’ve had a few of their cameras but stopped buying them after the first URSA mini pro. The body is just to big and awkward. But if they redesign it to a smaller cube shaped body and work on a decent filmic oplf then I’d jump back into blackmagic in a second. BRAW and resolve are fantastic, probably the best.

    • @antonarap
      @antonarap 4 года назад

      Man the "OLPF" is just a dirty piece of glass really. Use some of your own

  • @Mehreens-Cartoon
    @Mehreens-Cartoon Год назад

    Price

  • @rhproductions4932
    @rhproductions4932 3 года назад +1

    I loved this video and this camera is amazingggggg. Possibly doing a giveaway? 🤣🤣🤣 Obviously joking this probably 10 million dollars. (My way of saying I don’t know how to put pounds into dollars) Love your content bro 😎.

  • @daeilkim7183
    @daeilkim7183 4 года назад

    Thanks for this video. What's the viewfinder cushion that you have on the Ursa?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching. In all honesty I'm not quite sure as it was one we pulled out of our kit. But it's likely one from Bluestar: www.proav.co.uk/oval-large-microfibre-vf-eyecushion
      Dan

  • @robertm3951
    @robertm3951 4 года назад

    I am not sure that not debayering still makes downsampling RAW but I guess if Atomos can call downsampled resolutions RAW then so can Black Magic.

  • @drewtlau
    @drewtlau 4 года назад

    Well, raw playback is smoother coz the cpu doesnt need heavy uncompressing like most codecs... even msgic lantern raw playback smoother than 8bit h.264

  • @sanilalkuttimon1755
    @sanilalkuttimon1755 4 года назад +1

    😍😍😍😍

  • @nicetom33tyou
    @nicetom33tyou 3 года назад

    I would love to see one that supports emount lenses!

  • @TT-dx4ez
    @TT-dx4ez 3 года назад

    Any sort of adapter designed for micro 4/3 usage in 4k crop mode?

  • @n.r.2258
    @n.r.2258 3 года назад +3

    This filter is originated by SONY and was already used many years ago. Unfortunately this pattern has other weakness.
    So this is a BM advertisement.

    • @KallusGarnet
      @KallusGarnet 3 года назад

      explain the weakness of it to me i ak and idiot when it comes to this.

    • @n.r.2258
      @n.r.2258 3 года назад

      @@KallusGarnet
      RGBW CFA demosaicing methods reconstruct resolution using the correlation between white (W) pixels and pixels of other colors, which does not improve the red-green-blue (RGB) channel sensitivity to the W channel level. The RGB channel sensitivity and resolution are to be improved through updating the W channel texture component with those of RGB channels. There are two way to do so: In conventional methods, the conversion from the acquired RGBW pattern to the color image is usually performed in two steps. First, the RGBW pattern is converted into the widely used Bayer CFA pattern. Second, the Bayer CFA pattern is converted into the color image. However, the reconstructed color image is degraded by this two-step conversion, since both steps introduce aliasing artifacts and color distortions, which aggravate the image when combined.
      Another method is to modify the multiscale-gradient (MSG)-based demosaicing algorithm, into a proprietary one.
      You need cross multilateral filter (CMF) using color difference information and distinguishes color components through that information which leads to soften the image significantly.

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 4 года назад

    Nice & Thanks :)

  • @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide
    @Metaldetectiontubeworldwide 4 года назад +2

    wow amazing!!! bye bye photograpers high fps 12 K raw who needs one ...mayby as editor ..lol

  • @UniversoDigtaltv
    @UniversoDigtaltv 4 года назад

    Hi guys. I want to change my F5 with one BMD ursa 12G.

  • @mohamedsharaf5452
    @mohamedsharaf5452 4 года назад

    Great ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @bigfu
    @bigfu 3 года назад

    Black magic really needs to take a step back and take a god look a form design... Their cameras are so hard to balance on a gimbal.. The Komodo is really making me want to switch to red

    • @glennparker8247
      @glennparker8247 3 года назад

      Gimbals are overrated anyway. Everyone is obsessed with boring-ass slow mo super steady footage.

    • @bigfu
      @bigfu 3 года назад

      @@glennparker8247 Yeah but i shoot a lot of mving scenes

  •  4 года назад

    La verdad, sony y BM han demostrado que Canon no quería mejorar la tecnología y mucho menos entregarla a precios razonables.

  • @Walaby50
    @Walaby50 4 года назад

    There is a reason why sensors are RGGB and not RGB. The human eye can pick up more variants of green than any other color. That is why Sensors are designed the way they are. Even Fuji with their unique take on pixellayout are still using 2 G Pixels i stead of 1.
    The only reason they went for this tech is, so that they can get a higher resolution out of an otherwise normal sensor.

    • @DollyRanch
      @DollyRanch 4 года назад

      And there's a reason Arri selected a 2.8K sensor for their Full HD cinema camera. For some reason display manufactures count each RGB as one pixel where sensor manufacturers would count those as three?

    • @antonarap
      @antonarap 4 года назад +1

      TBH when you have to cover a 2x2 tiles and only 3 colors you have to use one twice. Not really a matter of design.

    • @Walaby50
      @Walaby50 4 года назад

      @@antonarap U don't have to though. That's the thing

    • @EnviroNews
      @EnviroNews 3 года назад +1

      As far as we understand, Blackmagic has also put an innovation in this sensor that is both new, and is supposed to compensate in lower light environments. For every 6R, 6G and 6B pixels there are also 18 white (or clear) pixels.

    • @Walaby50
      @Walaby50 3 года назад

      @@EnviroNews Exactly yes. Which is the reason why it doesn't outresolve an 8K camera, what it does is, it increases the dynamic range both in dark and in bright areas of the frame

  • @BitsOfBoris
    @BitsOfBoris 4 года назад +3

    8K 160p.. WHAT?

    • @ProAVTV
      @ProAVTV  4 года назад +2

      Yep, that's quite something!
      Dan

  • @earnieboy54
    @earnieboy54 4 года назад

    A lot needs to be said about this camera. It’s exciting but the drawbacks leave me wanting BM to now design OLPFs for their sensors. The moire and down sampled resolutions falling apart beyond 5:1 compression is alarming. Watch the videos on Epic Light Media and Armando Ferreira’s channels. I love BM but they missed the mark with this. Maybe future firmware updates will make it a winner but for now, it’s a pass.

    • @kolecava
      @kolecava 3 года назад

      I know P4K is not exactly a professionals tool of choice, however, the moire indeed is atrocious sometimes...

  • @kevikiru
    @kevikiru 3 года назад

    It's annoying that you used megabits/sec in your words and megabytes/sec in your charts. It was confusing!!!

  • @SP95
    @SP95 4 года назад

    Your Canon lenses, inspite of being expensive are not sharp enough for 8K, therefore 12K is even more useless.
    That's the main issue with everyone having this camera, they can't see the true potential of if. The rest of the video is nice, thanks.

  • @michaelwalsh3462
    @michaelwalsh3462 3 года назад

    Yeah, resolution blah, blah, blah. But, what is the color sub-sampling doing? You hardly touched on that enough to say it was new. It does us no good to have 12K resolution if the color is garbage. Any tests of that aspect? Anything coming? What can you tell us about RGB architecture?

    • @21stcenturybohemian
      @21stcenturybohemian 2 года назад

      Blackmagic is famous for its colour science. The camera is shooting 12bit RAW using its own color modelling. RGB is meaningless for cinema or broadcast use. RGB is something you will consider upon export from Resolve.