As much as I want to blame Disney or Chapek - some of the biggest problems are their "fans" who continue to sycophantically hand over their money for lesser experiences, not call out and defend every lazy, half-baked action taken by management - because of some long held loyalty to the Disney brand of their childhood, blinded by nostalgia as their pockets are being emptied. I find myself increasingly no longer looking to Disney (the supposed masters) for incredibly themed, immersive, innovative themed experiences - I'm looking to The Oriental Land Company and Universal Parks & Resorts.
Honestly the largest blame goes to Bob Igor, as many of the problems Disney's going through stem from his management of the company over the past decade.
I wouldnt call them theme park fans as whole, because this are not the people like us that visit theme parks as something they love, no matter if its disney, universal, the amazign european parks.... Is more the general public, the one that actually brings the big bucks and are a grand majority, the biggest problem. They dont give a fuck the place is not as good as it should be, or that imagineering is not creative anymore. They just love "disney movies" and are nostalgic by them, and maybe they feel "oh this is a little bit expensive" or something mildly negative in their visit. But at the same time they are on vacation and they dont want to ruin their positive feeling of something thats was expensive to visit, and they go out with a feel of this was great. Its the same people as Spain having Port Aventura be still its most popular theme park, becuase the general public dont know any better, for them what was good 20 years ago, its still good, even if its managed by a complete different company thats absolute crap and is killing the park year after year. Thast why modern disney behave they way they do and are not afraid of universal, they are run by marketing departments that know how to suqeeze enough the general public and get away with it. Its the exact same thing like in videogames with companies that sell millions upon millions of lesser games compared to others, full of bugs, bad graphics compared to the rest of the system they appeared, need to be fixed by modders... This is the same feeling of things like The Pokemon Company and Bethesda can get away with it. They are never gonna try to do anything better becuase, why would they do that, if the spend less and get more money thatn any other company around thats actually tries to do their best to compete.
@@ZontarDow Iger's job was a catch-22. He saved the parks by buying all of those IPs but he also cost Disney a fortune and now they're obsessed with saving money.
I really hate all the people making videos and reporting that there WILL BE major new lands added to Disney parks. It's all pie in the sky, there were more "what ifs" and "maybes" and "possibles" I've ever heard in my life in under 10 minutes.
I think the pandemic taught Disney that they can offer 60% of the pre-2020 experience, charge 100 or even 120%, and still hit capacity. Not to sound cynical, but why would they expand the depth and quality of their offerings when they’re so solidly at the top?
They're, for sure, solidly at the top, but that doesn't mean Universal's growth shouldn't matter to them: 2009: UO 10.16/Dis 47.5 (visitors in mils) = 22% 2010 (after Hogsmede opened): U0 11.8/Dis 47.1 = 25% 2019: UO 21.3/Dis 58.77 = 36% These are pre-pandemic numbers, and we know from Chapek himself that attendance is lower than it was in 2019, meaning that Universal's percentage of Disney's attendance is likely higher. A third gate is definitely going to shift this number more. While Disney's strategy may be lower guest numbers/more capita spending, this attendance shift can have more momentum than they want.
@tomyourmom epic universe is going to be a shit show. in 6 years UO is going to be six flags quality. Half of IOA is already closed or broken with the exception of Marvel and HP because of their strict contracts. They can't staff the parks they have as it is and there are so many internal issues, being run by execs acting like wall street bankers in the 80's, that are only now starting to make their way outward. I think UO has peaked right now and only has down to go and disney.has hit a post-covid low and is going to crawl its way back.
@@Altmetalpunk If Disney is crawling back up why are their announcements so pathetic? Universal is atleast trying with Epic Universe, bringing something to fans. Disney just overprices everything and shoves every single IP they can into every single area
Yup. This whole presentation said a whole lot of words with very little substance. I think a big issue with the executives is they only see the $$$ rolling in and attendance numbers still being consistent for their standards. We get less for more money. TAs stupid as the “Undesirable attendance mix” phrase is Magic Key holders are to scared to let go of their passes even though they’re getting significantly less bang for their buck. Too much FOMO. And get the execs out of there as leadership only cares about money.
It feels like Disney Parks & Resorts are officially in their "Home on the Range/Chicken Little" era. Arrogantly relying on their name, past glory and fan nostalgia to push out a cheap, inferior, half-baked product.
I strongly believe that the blue sky concepts and the pastery were made out of desperation. Disney has no clue what thei're doing. All big expansions are in international parks (most paid by others) and within the US, Disney doesn't even know what to do with a tree house...
yes but the international parks are getting all this great stuff from Burbank and Orlando, its just that OLC is willing to spend the money... The infuriating thing is, they KNOW what to do... but the US parks are not willing to reinvest
@@IkePaz TRON, Beauty and the Beast, Zootopia, Frozen, etc. are not from the US... Hong Kong, China, and Japan are leading with new amazing attractions.
I guarantee you Disney would cancel the entire Epcot project if they could. Unfortunately it had already broken ground and now they must complete it. But you know they hate the fact they have to spend so many millions of dollars on this. We will probably go five years without a single attraction or themed land even started in Disney theme parks. Disney theme parks is in a save money, smaller portions, nickel and dime people for every last cent they have, make sure shareholders happy phase! D23 theme park panel Was a total joke. And you know that they know it was a joke. This is why they are getting Bob out and talking because they know they are in trouble with their fans
@@thebluetarp I own Disney stock and don't care much about personal visits (I go to other parks). So, from a shareholder point of view, I think it's incompetent to complain about Denver families and annual passholders. They should fire both Cheapbag and D'AmaGO and hire people who can increase short-term capacity for both rides and food. How about leasing some 20 quality "carnival" flat rides (i.e put some into Dinosaurland) - plus having some 30 external food trucks across all US theme parks and charge them rent? If Disney would be honest about the reasons why they temporarily increasing capacity with flat rides, people would forgive Disney. Even Disney fanatics wouldn't mind when the crowds would use one or two flat rides per day if that means saving one hour per day in some line. As long as this is temporary: no problem!
as a fan of dineyland paris, it's just tiring to have so much hope to be so disappointed... tell yourself that during the D23, we celebrated 6000 days without ANY new attraction at the main park, it's a real shame and the same for the studios everyone really thought that a land pandora or lion king was going to be announced, but nothing, just rapunzel cups and a land frozen not succeed while in Tokyo they will have the best of what can do imagineering. And even for you, US fan, I'm sad for you because your announcements were very weak while there was also a lot of expectation. And as much to tell you right away the naughty land coco encanto will never happen and I just find it maddening on the part of disney to reveal such ambitious projects when they are not able to build a mary poppins attraction. anyway guys don't dream, as long as chapek will be CEO, there will be nothing new, no ambition, NOTHING if it's just a leveling down. And fortunately disney has excellent achievements and have done some absolute works in the past… Disney doesn't give a fuck anymore and I find it all the more disgusting since Amaro had a lot of hype fans for in the end having concept art for projects that will never succeed and limits so much the better because I don't see the relationship between animal kingdom and zootopia, moana. Because yes, d'Amaro is maybe worse than chapek, after all he also approves of all the shitty things that have happened in the last few years at disney. anyway I hope it's just a bad phase and that Disney will rise from its ashes... but it's not won 😭 (and sorry for my anglish because… you know frenchies… 😭)
Paris parks, like US parks, is directly owned & control by Disney. Anything they do there comes out of their pocket. With Tokyo & Chinese parks, they're co-owned, meaning that they don't have to bear all the costs. That's why you see many announcements for those parks - Disney want something to show but don't want to spend too much.
You did an amazing job on this video. You literally said everything that needed to be said, both recapping and giving your opinion in under 10 mins. I pretty much watched all the major Disney RUclipsrs reactions, and the average time was 1 hour videos. I watched the D23 live stream, so I didn't need a word for word replay of the entire panel that most people did. Thanks.
Universal: we’re making a new theme park and keeping prices the same. Park Fans: Great! Awesome! Disney: We have some meet and greets and openings of rides that should’ve been open years ago, also we have no idea what to do, so here’s some concepts! Also we’re raising prices! Park Fans: yeah uh…. I think I’ll go to Universal instead. This was their chance to announce something HUGE and they’re just lying in wait while universal is building the one thing Florida needs rn. Excitement. Something new. Epic Universe is coming, and when it does, disney won’t know what hit ‘em. Park Fans:
All Universal has do to give Disney a knockout punch in the competition is to make an impromptu press conference to reveal and present just one attraction coming to Epic Universe, like you said, in under five minutes.
I was there in the panel: It was so much bait and switch. The Figment announcement was getting so much excitement from me…until it was revealed to be a meet and greet. Also, that Porto’s announcement was the funniest reaction to experience. Those who are local to Disneyland(Like myself) lost while everyone else was like, “…what?” For those who don’t know: Porto’s is an extremely popular family owned small chain of restaurants/bakery that serve Cuban cuisine and pastries in the Los Angeles area. What I want to know if Disney would allow Porto’s to sell affordable food at their property because I don’t see Disney allowing cookies to be sold at $0.85. Overall it was a better panel than 2019(Anyone remember the 15 minute Target bit?), but still not good.
It all started off by Disney not even seating the audience (who had paid hundreds of dollar to come to this event and waited well over 4 and 5 hours in line to see this particular panel) until 15 minutes after the presentation already began!!!!! and the WHOLE PRESENTATION WENT DOWNHILL FROM THERE, WITH NOTHING NEW OR EXCITING PRESENTED!!!!! 100 years of Wonder theme, needs to be more correctly presented as 100 BLUNDERS in Year 100!
100% agree! Thank you for thoroughly explaining our confusion and disappointment. I’d like to think that the blue sky announcements at the end were just last minute fillers for something big that was canceled last minute, but I’ve just lost all hope and faith at this point 😢
You could actually hear a lot of the enthusiasm drain out of the crowd as the non-news was given to them. But as usual most were too busy yelling "take my money ."
This panel was basically akin to a college student who goofed off on doing their oral presentation, and when it was time to present, just pulled whatever they could put of their ass and stalled for as long as they could trying to salvage whatever credit they could get. I should know, I’ve done it, and my professor was impressed with it as we are now of this panel. And another thing, if they could build attractions “beyond Thunder Mountain” why not just build Western River Expedition back there?
I love learning about Blue Sky concepts, but maybe that segment would’ve been received better had it been a build up to an actually greenlit project announcement. Otherwise, it’s just a DisneylandForward style concept art dump that’ll inevitably mislead and ultimately disappoint. Probably.
I'm shocked at the lack of vision and commitment with the US parks. I thought for sure Epic Universe would have sparked a sense of urgency into Disney... I guess this is what the ancient greeks would have called 'Hubris'... Shame on Chapek and his YES men. Anyways, one of the perks about living in Japan is the upcoming Fantasy Springs expansion, I'll be at the resort for a couple days at the end of this month and I'm excited to see the Fantasy Springs progress on the monorail... Did you happen to catch that SMALL glimpse of the inside of Peter Pan's ride on the official disney Imagineering 70 years of magic video? Very exciting!
I hate to sound all like "I SAW THIS COMING WHY YOU SURPRISED??" , but I had s gut feeling that we needed to do more than just temper our expectations because all it takes is to look at how the 50th was handled and how extremely scaled back some of the projects they announced at D23 2019 and I just knew that there wouldn't be announcements left and right. The fact that we got blue sky concept art of the lands legit surprised me because, again, I wasn't even expecting a focus on future expansions because Disney is in what I like to call "POST PANDEMIC RECOVERY MODE", and between the parks being shut down, the layoffs that happened in 2020, the move of major staff to Florida and more, really, it was to be expected. But...it's kinda hard to excuse Disney when Epic Universe just seems to be going full speed ahead with EVERYTHING not being scaled back or changed, but at the same time Disney is a whole different beast, economics wise. At the very least, I think showing us what could be done without promises of happening may be the best thing since we all have been burned by promises of new attractions and projects only to get burned when they are cancelled or extremely scaled back. So if these expansions do not go through...at least Disney can say "that was a what if, not a confirmation!"
My home park is Hong Kong Disneyland. It was quite disappointing to hear that the only things announced for Hong Kong are a new statue and the World of Frozen will be opening in the second half of 2023. Not even a specific day. I always set my expectations low for d23 especially for Hong Kong, as Hong Kong Disneyland was always not the most famous and visited Disney Park. 3 years ago, it was announced an Avengers ride will be coming to the park. But now, there is no progress and the attraction in place of where autopia once was is only a stage meet and greet. Hopefully Hong Kong Disneyland will get the attention as a Disney Park in the future.
The fact hagrids motorbike adventure and tron were announced around the same time will never not baffle me edit: if they want to focus so much on IP and be a real competitor with universals new park, they should just make a new park dedicated to the characters. If it were up to me it would focus on IP from Disneys golden era but I know that's something they would likely never do.
Hilarious that Hagrid was built so much faster and is at the same time a brand new and vastly superior attraction. Meanwhile TRON is not even a new attraction and is every bit of disappointing and mediocre, and took forever to build AND axed the train in the process. Pathetic. And it won't open until after they've closed the best ride in the park (Splash Mountain).
Thanks for the honest take on this absolute failure of a “news” conference. I won’t watch channels that continue to turn a blind eye to the colossal disappointment Disney has become.
LOL! The share holder calls told you in advance they dont care about the park goers as long as those people keep spending their money while simultaneously getting kicked in the rear by Disney. No free ride from the airport. no free fast pass. pay for parking on top of your hotel bill. shrink the portion size of food and charge you more. new no theme buildings. cant park hop until 2pm. must have a reservation. oh and pay $15 per person to get on a ride after paying $125 per person to get into the park. Keep paying they will keep charging. Just watch the shareholder calls. I purchased a Universal pass 2 years ago and gave Disney a love TKO...."teddy pendergrass" cause I had to em go...
It all came down to the fox accusation. They over paid and now the are not investing as much to the parks but for content. PS I just moved 5 minutes away to Disney world. at the end of the day I still love Disney ! But I agree it was sooooo disappointing D23
Disney managment they will be ok even after Epic Universe opens, sure the current management will be long gone enjoying their retirement bonuses on some island while the future management will have to figure out how to put things back on track.
Seeing stuff like that press conference immediately takes me back to the penultimate episode of The Imagineering Story, when they talked about how bad the output was when the department was creatively stifled by money men. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.
The Imagineering Story was amazing! I'm surprised that Disney approved of that, it was very honest about their past. The ironic part was that they tried to make Eisner the bad guy and Iger the good guy, not realizing that Chapek would be worse than both of them.
The What If portion of the panel sounded like a Go Fund Me campaign. That's not what we should expect from a Fortune 100 company coming up on its 100 year anniversary.
Love to hear the Australian Analysis. bringing the magic down under. Just means that the wish is superior and they’re sending the redundant magic offshore.
for me the spark of disneys creative downfall began when they opened frozen ever after and mission breakout and called them "new rides" disney parks have been on a steady decline ever since lol even disneyseas new expansion looks questionable cause every other addition to the park like boat ports and waterfronts or a hotel as a facade brought the park together this is the first one that is an entirely own secluded section it really contributes nothing to the park which is quite strange
Nope, the downfall was when Bob Chapek forced hundreds of Disney Imagineers to either move to Florida(Because he wanted to pay no business taxes) or be fired. Many quit and Disney lost a good chunk of creative people. This is why it’s always a bad idea to give someone from retail/sales to run a company.
@@Emplordxiii so you think frozen ever after and mission breakout pixar pier and avangers campus are good examples of what disneys can do creatively ?... cause ill have to disagree w that the decline began w lack luster attractions in 2016 and it literally hasnt ended disney has been lack luster ever since w star wars themed land and resort not being up to par w wizarding world and neither have the avenger lands they have opened, bob chapek was just the icing on top of an already sinking ship lol
@@1TSS0FLVFFY first off, Mission Breakout has more thought and creativity than the others you listed(Plus it was a hell of a lot better than the weakest of the Tower of Terror attractions). Second, the others I blame on Disney being cheap on funding these projects for the parks they 100% own, not the creatives at Imagineering. It’s well established that limited funding leads to limited creativity: Just see the Imagineering Story episode where the team involved with Tokyo DisneySea had unlimited funding and created amazing things while the team for DCA, with the exception of Soarin’ Over California, had nothing but cheap disappointments.
I agree, ride re-theming is something that Six Flags does because they're creative bankrupt. Disney is the last company that should be following that example.
I have been thinking a lot about the future of entertainment and I think we are going progressively towards more immersive and interactive experiences. I feel that the futur is more premium exclusive human size experiences where you can actually embody your favorite hero ans leave adventures. Escape rooms, live games, immersive theater, quests, adventure ropes in different theming. I feel that Disney was pushing the limit of what have been done on that with their star wars cruise. I feel Universal also has understood it with the wand system in the Harry Potter lands and with Nintendo. I feel that we could go farther on that past, they could create a story park, like evermore but within our favorite disney stories. That is the kind of thing I imagine when we speak about the boundless future. I expect from the leader of the industry, no more than A VISION like Walt had. Where did all the creativity went? did they just announce things that fans with no imagineering knowledge wanted just to keep them happy? I totally agree with you, they are ruining DAK inner theme and values and they don’t even seem to realize it. They don’t even have a vision for the future of the parks. It’s all about short term decisions and making the shareholders happy.
I think that Disney is aware of this. Rise of the Resistance and the Galactic Starcruiser are immersive experiences. The problem is that these experiences cost a lot to build so now Disney is crying poor.
its truly saddens me to see how quickly the level of announcements changed this time at the expo. Whereas the last times, the company opened up exciting future plans for Epcot, DCA, Disneyland Paris, Shanghai Disneyland, Hong Kong Disneyland and Tokyo Disney, it seems as if only Tokyo and Shanghai are going to come out strong after seeing this. It is extremely sad to see how they tackled this overall by just naming a few popular franchises and expecting everyone to get excited about it, even if it made no sense at how they would work in coherence to their planned location(I mean moana and zootopia in one announcement? the concept art looks like a total mess even if I would love to see the franchises represented in the parks. Encanto, Coco and... villains? I know it was a what if section but where is the logic). I really hope that Disney realizes that they need to own up to some announcements they previously made(Hong Kongs Marvel expansion, Walt Disney Studios Park transformation, Epcot transformation(I mean this one could really have had the best opportunity to say hey we're bringing Coco to Mexico, we're bringing in Encanto with a Colombia pavilion, we're still working on Mary Poppins, but nothing of the sort came close at all))
Always love the background music in your videos. These are still unprecedented times we have to consider and Disney is still in a flux about what to do now. People were unhappy with 2019's D23 and some of the projects planned then anyway, which I'm sure they scrapped or delayed what was not desired.or better ideas came along to explore. I think the blue sky ideas are a new concept for D23 or maybe it just seems new since they explicitely spelled it out this time. I'm glad you guys Down Under are getting a little Disney in your part of the world. Enjoy your cruise!
Those were canceled because of the pandemic. Why some of them weren't restarted, like Spaceship earth, I'm not sure. I don't think its fair to say they announced those too early though because nobody knew the pandemic was going to happen. Until the pandemic, those projects were going to happen. These 'blue sky' announcements are a whole other thing entirely.
I'm getting flashbacks to early 1990s "Disney Decade" plans, complete with "opening years" that never came to be. I mean, the joke is you can build three new parks out of all the planned ideas that didn't make it but that Disney is considering some fun stuff shows they're not totally giving up. One thing we know, so many ideas do end up coming to be just not the way we expect.
The problem with the Disney Decade was that Eisner just copied other theme parks. MGM Studios was just a copy of Universal Studios. Animal Kingdom was just a copy of Busch Gardens Tampa. Whenever he tried to make something "original," they were huge flops: Disneyland Paris, California Adventure, Hong Kong Disneyland.
Underwhelming and over-priced are the words that come to mind whenever we hear the word "Disney". How long can this company under-perform before their brand is permanently diminished?
I've been to Disney every year since I was born up until 2021. Unfortunately that was our last Disney trip and it doesn't look like there's going to be any more in the future. I can give you a long speech about everything that was wrong with it but, bottom line is the outpriced me and the experience just simply wasn't worth it for us anymore. 😥
Ever since the miscalculations of Tomorrowland (the movie), pretty much everything Star Wars (unfortunately), and quite a few misteps when it comes to handling the parks (you know, the thing with the face of the blue magical guy that replaced the fast pass), Disney has slowly been realizing they no longer know what their guests and audience wants. And instead of sending out surveys or asking third party companies to do reviews. They have to bring it in house, turn it into an event where they guage audience reaction at a panel, and then call it a day. Because "no one can do it better than Disney" It's really sad to see they're so busy being concerned with if they can do something, that they aren't taking time to consider if they should.
At 6:22, you can see the caption "A Boundless Future: Disney Parks, Experiences and Products" Pretty ironic for the "extravagant" plans they have compared to Universal.
I love that everyone talks about the Porto’s being the most exciting reveal of the panel- meanwhile my soup dumpling loving self was losing my mind knowing I’ll get to try Din Tai Fung next time I go 😂 Either way it’s a restaurant, so yeah lackluster moment
I couldn't agree more. Can you do a video on the downfall of Disneyland? I live an hour away and I just let my pass expire and I wish that I didn't even have the past that I just let expire, 75% of it was a waste of my money. I can't get on a ride, I can't buy food because it's too expensive and because you have to use mobile order and it's just too complicated. You know, a video about that kind of stuff.
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Don't forget the exciting Tangled... Toilets at WDS in Paris... Boundless indeed
See in animal kingdom I wish they'd keep chester and gester theme and add two flat rides an a dino themed fun house to keep with the carnival feel...then at the nemo theater tear it down an build a bigger aquarium theatemd to finding Dory. Maybe build a crush coster an add a new finding Dory stage show..then in Epcot take out the aquarium an build a Moana water thrill ride
I found the Parks n Resorts presentation to be as disappointing as one can get. Disney leadership, in 2022, is devoid of creativity! Chapek says the “Kingpin” of Disney is Disney+, I say… look at how Netflix, the KING of streaming is doing… they are failing., why would Disney want that? I used to watch Walt on ABC’s Wonderful World of Color / Disney on ABC and admired his creativity and vision. I went to WDW in 1975/76 and fell in love with the brand. I’ve been to every Disney park across the globe, since, more times than I can count. Living in Singapore for the past decade+ I also had an AP for HKDL and visited Shanghai and Tokyo countless times as well. While I’ve not been to Paris in a long time, IMO, the state or the US Parks is pathetic yet highly profitable. The fact that I’ve not received a dividend, since early 2020 has me fully questioning if Disney even has what it takes to get through this decade without radical, Walt-level, changes. With $DIS share price more than 1/2 of what it once traded at, they should be a ripe acquisiton target. However, a more competent corporation / leadership would never violate their fiduciary responsibility and take on that amount of debt. I’m so disheartened by the current state of The Walt Disney Company.
When Disney green-lit a Figment movie but can’t be bothered to rebuild a complete overhaul of Journey Into Imagination. The current version is over 20 years old and somehow feels more outdated than the 1983 original. I wish Disney would actually commit to their park ideas. This just hurts to watch.
To be honest, all of these announcements is nothing new and RUclipsrs were the first to tell them after it was announced. However, the name for tiana’s ride kind of seems more like it’s part of the Fantasyland. Dad: Huh, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure that sounds cool. Mom: Is that in Fantasyland because it’s sounds like it is. Dad: Nah, it took over a mountain that has cartoon characters of song of the south but never actually references song of the south. Little Girl: I love Tiana in Fantasyland. Let’s go meet her. Dad: Yeah, the name of the ride is cool in only a fantasyland aspect. But in a place like Frontierland, it doesn’t match the expirations. Little Girl: Let’s ride Splash Mountain after all it’s a hot day. Mom: Ok, still an interesting name. I wonder if they will change the name to be more interesting. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure sounds like it belongs in Fantasyland. Guessing, that’s what they mean by expanding beyond Frontierland by expanding the fantasy expect in Frontierland. Which of course is not that much. Dad: Yep, let’s go ride Tron. The Tron ride is much more interesting name than the retheme of Splash Mountains name. Everybody nodded and agreed. A little skit but kind of accurate as well. Names are the popularity and the more a name is said in a good way or in a bad way. Good ways is means it’s so popular that it’s worth expanding the land. Bad way is kind of like Galaxy edge where it’s only one and done and doesn’t have any interests in expanding because it’s not that popular yet (nor will it ever be). Hope you have a wonderful day.
And yes. The overwrought, senseless, unbearable babble speak that comes from animators, Imagineers, and executives shows a completely bankrupt, insincere hollow shell of a company. Not a single sincere creative is in charge anymore. Only corporate profiteers and risk management lawyers.
Honestly, if we have Chapek at the helm, who doesn’t have a creative or imaginative bone in his body, there is very little hope of something truly wonderful happening at the American parks. Someone already said, if they can’t even get Mary Poppins off the ground, and if it takes 6 years to open TRON, what hope can we POSSIBLY have??
What if we just kept raising our admission fees charge for rides and charge astronomical prices for food snacks and merchandise and stop trying all together??? There will still be people linking up to give Disney money. Until it gets as bad as six flags, Disney CEO’s will continue on this path.
Thank you...yes a decades, remember Bob Chapek only has 3 year contract. MK it be better to build out from toon town. Louse the small tent build. Redo the road in back straight in to small world service area. Then build sidewalk around a long the railroad to back area use the bridge for entrance to large ride. Rebuild toon town false front of mickey house and other then build new lands ( villains and other)behind little mermaid keep the service road and if done right you could have a new entrance for the parade route..besides have a ride dealing with death and tge underworld might be easyer on little one if explained though toon town.the whole thing would be inside the railroad footprint.. thank you.
I was surprised by the Hulk's appearance in the announcement of the character coming to Avengers Campus. I thought it was a positive thing to learn about.
I doubt Disney is gonna bring back “ The Muppets present great moments in American History” anytime soon, considering all the people who would try to shut it down because they can’t find any great moments.😂 They’ll scream that it’s offensive
Okay, having Guardians of the Galaxy replace Universe of Energy is one thing, but shoving Moana into Animal Kingdom and Coco and Encanto into Magic Kingdom as well? They have gone too far.
To be fair, what these IPs would be replacing is basically nothing. And a Magic Kingdom is already overflowing with IPs, I see no reason why Encanto and Coco couldn't go into a Frontierland expansion. It actually fits nicely, imagining that you are 'traveling west,' and then end up in South America when you pass Big Thunder Mountain.
Kinda embarrassing testing the waters with these what-if concepts. But like if they seriously want to crowdsource their decisions, show us some REAL blue sky concepts. Mama ain’t impressed.
Would have loved to hear Josh say ‘another ‘what if’ most of you are thinking, even some of you dreaming… what if Bob Iger were still the CEO of Disney today? Let’s show you some ideas and attraction concepts Bob Iger would have easily approved that the current ‘theme park guy’ wouldn’t…’
I'm confused by this video are you saying liked the new thing Disney brought or did you not like it but even though if you don't like I'm sure there was a lot of people who did like it
This was a terrible expo even by the standards of recent years. Disney's been in hard times after making the disastrous acquisition of Fox which I've been saying since it was first announced was a mistake and as time goes on have been vindicated in that belief. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and after 2 years of lower attendance due to we all know what coming at the exact time they did not need a drop in revenue, the consequences of Bob Igor's final years and Bob Chapek's limited ability to deal with the problem given Disney's structure means this will likely be the normal for years to come.
Disney is starting to panic and it’s showing. Such a shame how much of a joke they’re becoming. I think they’re starting to realize Epic Universe might be more of a threat than they originally thought.
Having a meet and greet or any kind of interaction with the Hulk would only be fun/exciting if it is the original Hulk with the mentality of a 3-year-old or so. Professor Hulk is boring.
As much as I want to blame Disney or Chapek - some of the biggest problems are their "fans" who continue to sycophantically hand over their money for lesser experiences, not call out and defend every lazy, half-baked action taken by management - because of some long held loyalty to the Disney brand of their childhood, blinded by nostalgia as their pockets are being emptied. I find myself increasingly no longer looking to Disney (the supposed masters) for incredibly themed, immersive, innovative themed experiences - I'm looking to The Oriental Land Company and Universal Parks & Resorts.
Well said!
Honestly the largest blame goes to Bob Igor, as many of the problems Disney's going through stem from his management of the company over the past decade.
I wouldnt call them theme park fans as whole, because this are not the people like us that visit theme parks as something they love, no matter if its disney, universal, the amazign european parks.... Is more the general public, the one that actually brings the big bucks and are a grand majority, the biggest problem. They dont give a fuck the place is not as good as it should be, or that imagineering is not creative anymore. They just love "disney movies" and are nostalgic by them, and maybe they feel "oh this is a little bit expensive" or something mildly negative in their visit. But at the same time they are on vacation and they dont want to ruin their positive feeling of something thats was expensive to visit, and they go out with a feel of this was great. Its the same people as Spain having Port Aventura be still its most popular theme park, becuase the general public dont know any better, for them what was good 20 years ago, its still good, even if its managed by a complete different company thats absolute crap and is killing the park year after year.
Thast why modern disney behave they way they do and are not afraid of universal, they are run by marketing departments that know how to suqeeze enough the general public and get away with it.
Its the exact same thing like in videogames with companies that sell millions upon millions of lesser games compared to others, full of bugs, bad graphics compared to the rest of the system they appeared, need to be fixed by modders... This is the same feeling of things like The Pokemon Company and Bethesda can get away with it. They are never gonna try to do anything better becuase, why would they do that, if the spend less and get more money thatn any other company around thats actually tries to do their best to compete.
@@ZontarDow Iger's job was a catch-22. He saved the parks by buying all of those IPs but he also cost Disney a fortune and now they're obsessed with saving money.
@@ralelunar the parks where the one place Disney didn't need saving
Disney Parks Panel: What if… we just gave up?
I really hate all the people making videos and reporting that there WILL BE major new lands added to Disney parks. It's all pie in the sky, there were more "what ifs" and "maybes" and "possibles" I've ever heard in my life in under 10 minutes.
Universal: Well, this is an easy win for us!
@@happiestplace3754 exactly! They said it multiple times during that bit that it was “what ifs.”
@@Emplordxiii Dallin at Offhand Disney just did a great supercut in his new video of them saying "what if", it's like a drinking game. LOL
@@happiestplace3754 which video the newest one about the people mover.
I think the pandemic taught Disney that they can offer 60% of the pre-2020 experience, charge 100 or even 120%, and still hit capacity. Not to sound cynical, but why would they expand the depth and quality of their offerings when they’re so solidly at the top?
They're, for sure, solidly at the top, but that doesn't mean Universal's growth shouldn't matter to them:
2009: UO 10.16/Dis 47.5 (visitors in mils) = 22%
2010 (after Hogsmede opened): U0 11.8/Dis 47.1 = 25%
2019: UO 21.3/Dis 58.77 = 36%
These are pre-pandemic numbers, and we know from Chapek himself that attendance is lower than it was in 2019, meaning that Universal's percentage of Disney's attendance is likely higher. A third gate is definitely going to shift this number more.
While Disney's strategy may be lower guest numbers/more capita spending, this attendance shift can have more momentum than they want.
@tomyourmom epic universe is going to be a shit show. in 6 years UO is going to be six flags quality. Half of IOA is already closed or broken with the exception of Marvel and HP because of their strict contracts. They can't staff the parks they have as it is and there are so many internal issues, being run by execs acting like wall street bankers in the 80's, that are only now starting to make their way outward. I think UO has peaked right now and only has down to go and disney.has hit a post-covid low and is going to crawl its way back.
They’re making it easier for Universal to overtake them in the future.
@@Altmetalpunk If Disney is crawling back up why are their announcements so pathetic? Universal is atleast trying with Epic Universe, bringing something to fans. Disney just overprices everything and shoves every single IP they can into every single area
Yup. This whole presentation said a whole lot of words with very little substance. I think a big issue with the executives is they only see the $$$ rolling in and attendance numbers still being consistent for their standards. We get less for more money.
TAs stupid as the “Undesirable attendance mix” phrase is Magic Key holders are to scared to let go of their passes even though they’re getting significantly less bang for their buck. Too much FOMO. And get the execs out of there as leadership only cares about money.
The Chapek era will make the 96-2005 Eisner era look like the 1955-1966 Walt era by comparison when it’s all said and done.
Honestly
lmaoo fr
Bob Iger is back.
It feels like Disney Parks & Resorts are officially in their "Home on the Range/Chicken Little" era. Arrogantly relying on their name, past glory and fan nostalgia to push out a cheap, inferior, half-baked product.
Bingo. There is a reason all disney fans are middle aged.
I strongly believe that the blue sky concepts and the pastery were made out of desperation. Disney has no clue what thei're doing.
All big expansions are in international parks (most paid by others) and within the US, Disney doesn't even know what to do with a tree house...
yes but the international parks are getting all this great stuff from Burbank and Orlando, its just that OLC is willing to spend the money...
The infuriating thing is, they KNOW what to do... but the US parks are not willing to reinvest
@@IkePaz TRON, Beauty and the Beast, Zootopia, Frozen, etc. are not from the US... Hong Kong, China, and Japan are leading with new amazing attractions.
I guarantee you Disney would cancel the entire Epcot project if they could. Unfortunately it had already broken ground and now they must complete it. But you know they hate the fact they have to spend so many millions of dollars on this. We will probably go five years without a single attraction or themed land even started in Disney theme parks. Disney theme parks is in a save money, smaller portions, nickel and dime people for every last cent they have, make sure shareholders happy phase! D23 theme park panel Was a total joke. And you know that they know it was a joke. This is why they are getting Bob out and talking because they know they are in trouble with their fans
@@thebluetarp I own Disney stock and don't care much about personal visits (I go to other parks). So, from a shareholder point of view, I think it's incompetent to complain about Denver families and annual passholders. They should fire both Cheapbag and D'AmaGO and hire people who can increase short-term capacity for both rides and food.
How about leasing some 20 quality "carnival" flat rides (i.e put some into Dinosaurland) - plus having some 30 external food trucks across all US theme parks and charge them rent? If Disney would be honest about the reasons why they temporarily increasing capacity with flat rides, people would forgive Disney. Even Disney fanatics wouldn't mind when the crowds would use one or two flat rides per day if that means saving one hour per day in some line. As long as this is temporary: no problem!
D23 = he greatest possible advertisement for Epic Universe
Disney is riding on there laurels and charging more than ever… See you all at Epic Universe
as a fan of dineyland paris, it's just tiring to have so much hope to be so disappointed... tell yourself that during the D23, we celebrated 6000 days without ANY new attraction at the main park, it's a real shame and the same for the studios everyone really thought that a land pandora or lion king was going to be announced, but nothing, just rapunzel cups and a land frozen not succeed while in Tokyo they will have the best of what can do imagineering. And even for you, US fan, I'm sad for you because your announcements were very weak while there was also a lot of expectation. And as much to tell you right away the naughty land coco encanto will never happen and I just find it maddening on the part of disney to reveal such ambitious projects when they are not able to build a mary poppins attraction. anyway guys don't dream, as long as chapek will be CEO, there will be nothing new, no ambition, NOTHING if it's just a leveling down. And fortunately disney has excellent achievements and have done some absolute works in the past… Disney doesn't give a fuck anymore and I find it all the more disgusting since Amaro had a lot of hype fans for in the end having concept art for projects that will never succeed and limits so much the better because I don't see the relationship between animal kingdom and zootopia, moana. Because yes, d'Amaro is maybe worse than chapek, after all he also approves of all the shitty things that have happened in the last few years at disney. anyway I hope it's just a bad phase and that Disney will rise from its ashes... but it's not won 😭 (and sorry for my anglish because… you know frenchies… 😭)
Paris parks, like US parks, is directly owned & control by Disney. Anything they do there comes out of their pocket.
With Tokyo & Chinese parks, they're co-owned, meaning that they don't have to bear all the costs. That's why you see many announcements for those parks - Disney want something to show but don't want to spend too much.
You did an amazing job on this video. You literally said everything that needed to be said, both recapping and giving your opinion in under 10 mins. I pretty much watched all the major Disney RUclipsrs reactions, and the average time was 1 hour videos. I watched the D23 live stream, so I didn't need a word for word replay of the entire panel that most people did. Thanks.
Universal: we’re making a new theme park and keeping prices the same.
Park Fans: Great! Awesome!
Disney: We have some meet and greets and openings of rides that should’ve been open years ago, also we have no idea what to do, so here’s some concepts! Also we’re raising prices!
Park Fans: yeah uh…. I think I’ll go to Universal instead.
This was their chance to announce something HUGE and they’re just lying in wait while universal is building the one thing Florida needs rn. Excitement. Something new. Epic Universe is coming, and when it does, disney won’t know what hit ‘em.
Park Fans:
All Universal has do to give Disney a knockout punch in the competition is to make an impromptu press conference to reveal and present just one attraction coming to Epic Universe, like you said, in under five minutes.
I just want them to keep Dinosaur and the prehistoric path leading up to it. It's the only reason I go to Animal Kingdom.
I was there in the panel: It was so much bait and switch. The Figment announcement was getting so much excitement from me…until it was revealed to be a meet and greet.
Also, that Porto’s announcement was the funniest reaction to experience. Those who are local to Disneyland(Like myself) lost while everyone else was like, “…what?” For those who don’t know: Porto’s is an extremely popular family owned small chain of restaurants/bakery that serve Cuban cuisine and pastries in the Los Angeles area. What I want to know if Disney would allow Porto’s to sell affordable food at their property because I don’t see Disney allowing cookies to be sold at $0.85.
Overall it was a better panel than 2019(Anyone remember the 15 minute Target bit?), but still not good.
It all started off by Disney not even seating the audience (who had paid hundreds of dollar to come to this event and waited well over 4 and 5 hours in line to see this particular panel) until 15 minutes after the presentation already began!!!!! and the WHOLE PRESENTATION WENT DOWNHILL FROM THERE, WITH NOTHING NEW OR EXCITING PRESENTED!!!!! 100 years of Wonder theme, needs to be more correctly presented as 100 BLUNDERS in Year 100!
Universal is gonna jack Disney up so bad. Can't wait.
100% agree! Thank you for thoroughly explaining our confusion and disappointment. I’d like to think that the blue sky announcements at the end were just last minute fillers for something big that was canceled last minute, but I’ve just lost all hope and faith at this point 😢
You could actually hear a lot of the enthusiasm drain out of the crowd as the non-news was given to them. But as usual most were too busy yelling "take my money ."
This panel was basically akin to a college student who goofed off on doing their oral presentation, and when it was time to present, just pulled whatever they could put of their ass and stalled for as long as they could trying to salvage whatever credit they could get. I should know, I’ve done it, and my professor was impressed with it as we are now of this panel.
And another thing, if they could build attractions “beyond Thunder Mountain” why not just build Western River Expedition back there?
I love learning about Blue Sky concepts, but maybe that segment would’ve been received better had it been a build up to an actually greenlit project announcement. Otherwise, it’s just a DisneylandForward style concept art dump that’ll inevitably mislead and ultimately disappoint. Probably.
I'm shocked at the lack of vision and commitment with the US parks. I thought for sure Epic Universe would have sparked a sense of urgency into Disney... I guess this is what the ancient greeks would have called 'Hubris'... Shame on Chapek and his YES men.
Anyways, one of the perks about living in Japan is the upcoming Fantasy Springs expansion, I'll be at the resort for a couple days at the end of this month and I'm excited to see the Fantasy Springs progress on the monorail... Did you happen to catch that SMALL glimpse of the inside of Peter Pan's ride on the official disney Imagineering 70 years of magic video? Very exciting!
What if ... Bob Chapek wasn't CEO?
Don't tease, my hopes have already been dashed before...
Figment Meet N Greet :D
*It will miss the EPCOT 40th by a few months... D:
I hate to sound all like "I SAW THIS COMING WHY YOU SURPRISED??" , but I had s gut feeling that we needed to do more than just temper our expectations because all it takes is to look at how the 50th was handled and how extremely scaled back some of the projects they announced at D23 2019 and I just knew that there wouldn't be announcements left and right. The fact that we got blue sky concept art of the lands legit surprised me because, again, I wasn't even expecting a focus on future expansions because Disney is in what I like to call "POST PANDEMIC RECOVERY MODE", and between the parks being shut down, the layoffs that happened in 2020, the move of major staff to Florida and more, really, it was to be expected.
But...it's kinda hard to excuse Disney when Epic Universe just seems to be going full speed ahead with EVERYTHING not being scaled back or changed, but at the same time Disney is a whole different beast, economics wise. At the very least, I think showing us what could be done without promises of happening may be the best thing since we all have been burned by promises of new attractions and projects only to get burned when they are cancelled or extremely scaled back. So if these expansions do not go through...at least Disney can say "that was a what if, not a confirmation!"
My home park is Hong Kong Disneyland. It was quite disappointing to hear that the only things announced for Hong Kong are a new statue and the World of Frozen will be opening in the second half of 2023. Not even a specific day. I always set my expectations low for d23 especially for Hong Kong, as Hong Kong Disneyland was always not the most famous and visited Disney Park. 3 years ago, it was announced an Avengers ride will be coming to the park. But now, there is no progress and the attraction in place of where autopia once was is only a stage meet and greet. Hopefully Hong Kong Disneyland will get the attention as a Disney Park in the future.
The fact hagrids motorbike adventure and tron were announced around the same time will never not baffle me
edit: if they want to focus so much on IP and be a real competitor with universals new park, they should just make a new park dedicated to the characters. If it were up to me it would focus on IP from Disneys golden era but I know that's something they would likely never do.
Great idea, a whole park based on IP could be really cool if they were clever about it.
Hilarious that Hagrid was built so much faster and is at the same time a brand new and vastly superior attraction. Meanwhile TRON is not even a new attraction and is every bit of disappointing and mediocre, and took forever to build AND axed the train in the process. Pathetic. And it won't open until after they've closed the best ride in the park (Splash Mountain).
Thanks for the honest take on this absolute failure of a “news” conference. I won’t watch channels that continue to turn a blind eye to the colossal disappointment Disney has become.
LOL! The share holder calls told you in advance they dont care about the park goers as long as those people keep spending their money while simultaneously getting kicked in the rear by Disney. No free ride from the airport. no free fast pass. pay for parking on top of your hotel bill. shrink the portion size of food and charge you more. new no theme buildings. cant park hop until 2pm. must have a reservation. oh and pay $15 per person to get on a ride after paying $125 per person to get into the park. Keep paying they will keep charging. Just watch the shareholder calls. I purchased a Universal pass 2 years ago and gave Disney a love TKO...."teddy pendergrass" cause I had to em go...
It all came down to the fox accusation. They over paid and now the are not investing as much to the parks but for content. PS I just moved 5 minutes away to Disney world.
at the end of the day I still love Disney ! But I agree it was sooooo disappointing D23
I agree, they're just buying IPs and remaking old ones, instead of supporting their original new ones.
Disney managment they will be ok even after Epic Universe opens, sure the current management will be long gone enjoying their retirement bonuses on some island while the future management will have to figure out how to put things back on track.
I thought the hulk suit was a joke.
Looks terrible.
Seeing stuff like that press conference immediately takes me back to the penultimate episode of The Imagineering Story, when they talked about how bad the output was when the department was creatively stifled by money men.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”.
The Imagineering Story was amazing! I'm surprised that Disney approved of that, it was very honest about their past. The ironic part was that they tried to make Eisner the bad guy and Iger the good guy, not realizing that Chapek would be worse than both of them.
The What If portion of the panel sounded like a Go Fund Me campaign. That's not what we should expect from a Fortune 100 company coming up on its 100 year anniversary.
Disney talks about what is possible if we dream it. Universal does it.
Let’s all just leave Disney behind and take our money elsewhere.
I remember the Eisner days.
Love to hear the Australian Analysis.
bringing the magic down under. Just means that the wish is superior and they’re sending the redundant magic offshore.
for me the spark of disneys creative downfall began when they opened frozen ever after and mission breakout and called them "new rides" disney parks have been on a steady decline ever since lol even disneyseas new expansion looks questionable cause every other addition to the park like boat ports and waterfronts or a hotel as a facade brought the park together this is the first one that is an entirely own secluded section it really contributes nothing to the park which is quite strange
Nope, the downfall was when Bob Chapek forced hundreds of Disney Imagineers to either move to Florida(Because he wanted to pay no business taxes) or be fired. Many quit and Disney lost a good chunk of creative people. This is why it’s always a bad idea to give someone from retail/sales to run a company.
@@Emplordxiii so you think frozen ever after and mission breakout pixar pier and avangers campus are good examples of what disneys can do creatively ?... cause ill have to disagree w that the decline began w lack luster attractions in 2016 and it literally hasnt ended disney has been lack luster ever since w star wars themed land and resort not being up to par w wizarding world and neither have the avenger lands they have opened, bob chapek was just the icing on top of an already sinking ship lol
@@1TSS0FLVFFY first off, Mission Breakout has more thought and creativity than the others you listed(Plus it was a hell of a lot better than the weakest of the Tower of Terror attractions). Second, the others I blame on Disney being cheap on funding these projects for the parks they 100% own, not the creatives at Imagineering. It’s well established that limited funding leads to limited creativity: Just see the Imagineering Story episode where the team involved with Tokyo DisneySea had unlimited funding and created amazing things while the team for DCA, with the exception of Soarin’ Over California, had nothing but cheap disappointments.
@@Emplordxiii yea i dont agree w you at all but thanks for sharing your opinion
I agree, ride re-theming is something that Six Flags does because they're creative bankrupt. Disney is the last company that should be following that example.
I have been thinking a lot about the future of entertainment and I think we are going progressively towards more immersive and interactive experiences. I feel that the futur is more premium exclusive human size experiences where you can actually embody your favorite hero ans leave adventures. Escape rooms, live games, immersive theater, quests, adventure ropes in different theming. I feel that Disney was pushing the limit of what have been done on that with their star wars cruise. I feel Universal also has understood it with the wand system in the Harry Potter lands and with Nintendo. I feel that we could go farther on that past, they could create a story park, like evermore but within our favorite disney stories. That is the kind of thing I imagine when we speak about the boundless future. I expect from the leader of the industry, no more than A VISION like Walt had. Where did all the creativity went? did they just announce things that fans with no imagineering knowledge wanted just to keep them happy? I totally agree with you, they are ruining DAK inner theme and values and they don’t even seem to realize it. They don’t even have a vision for the future of the parks. It’s all about short term decisions and making the shareholders happy.
I think that Disney is aware of this. Rise of the Resistance and the Galactic Starcruiser are immersive experiences. The problem is that these experiences cost a lot to build so now Disney is crying poor.
I am glad spaceship earth isn’t getting an overhaul. It is perfect as it is.
its truly saddens me to see how quickly the level of announcements changed this time at the expo. Whereas the last times, the company opened up exciting future plans for Epcot, DCA, Disneyland Paris, Shanghai Disneyland, Hong Kong Disneyland and Tokyo Disney, it seems as if only Tokyo and Shanghai are going to come out strong after seeing this. It is extremely sad to see how they tackled this overall by just naming a few popular franchises and expecting everyone to get excited about it, even if it made no sense at how they would work in coherence to their planned location(I mean moana and zootopia in one announcement? the concept art looks like a total mess even if I would love to see the franchises represented in the parks. Encanto, Coco and... villains? I know it was a what if section but where is the logic). I really hope that Disney realizes that they need to own up to some announcements they previously made(Hong Kongs Marvel expansion, Walt Disney Studios Park transformation, Epcot transformation(I mean this one could really have had the best opportunity to say hey we're bringing Coco to Mexico, we're bringing in Encanto with a Colombia pavilion, we're still working on Mary Poppins, but nothing of the sort came close at all))
Disney is truly in decline
Always love the background music in your videos. These are still unprecedented times we have to consider and Disney is still in a flux about what to do now. People were unhappy with 2019's D23 and some of the projects planned then anyway, which I'm sure they scrapped or delayed what was not desired.or better ideas came along to explore. I think the blue sky ideas are a new concept for D23 or maybe it just seems new since they explicitely spelled it out this time. I'm glad you guys Down Under are getting a little Disney in your part of the world. Enjoy your cruise!
Universal is looking strong
3:55 to 4:15 - Nailed it! That is the exact point we as fans should be concerned about.
Those were canceled because of the pandemic. Why some of them weren't restarted, like Spaceship earth, I'm not sure. I don't think its fair to say they announced those too early though because nobody knew the pandemic was going to happen. Until the pandemic, those projects were going to happen. These 'blue sky' announcements are a whole other thing entirely.
I'm getting flashbacks to early 1990s "Disney Decade" plans, complete with "opening years" that never came to be. I mean, the joke is you can build three new parks out of all the planned ideas that didn't make it but that Disney is considering some fun stuff shows they're not totally giving up. One thing we know, so many ideas do end up coming to be just not the way we expect.
The problem with the Disney Decade was that Eisner just copied other theme parks. MGM Studios was just a copy of Universal Studios. Animal Kingdom was just a copy of Busch Gardens Tampa. Whenever he tried to make something "original," they were huge flops: Disneyland Paris, California Adventure, Hong Kong Disneyland.
They should of just said... we are happy to introduce a 20% year over year increase in price, and cutting spending by 10%.
This parks panel really put on display how creatively bankrupt Disney has become.
One thing I’ll fight you on the 60th anniversary world of color is the best world of color they’ve ever made
Underwhelming and over-priced are the words that come to mind whenever we hear the word "Disney". How long can this company under-perform before their brand is permanently diminished?
I hope those blue sky announcements don’t come to fruition. they don’t fit the theme of the lands at all and everything just feels so ip infested now
D23 was disappointing this year :( a lot of bullshit wondering and what ifs
They removed a restaurant in Dinoland so I think they really are demolishing the rest of it soon 😢
Never mind disney world, the Disneyland Paris news was truly woeful
I've been to Disney every year since I was born up until 2021. Unfortunately that was our last Disney trip and it doesn't look like there's going to be any more in the future. I can give you a long speech about everything that was wrong with it but, bottom line is the outpriced me and the experience just simply wasn't worth it for us anymore. 😥
As a WDW cast member, what do I have to be proud of my company for? What do I have to feel good about our so called boundless future?
The happiness you bring to children and the fact that it's a happy place where the second amendment has been suspended.
Ever since the miscalculations of Tomorrowland (the movie), pretty much everything Star Wars (unfortunately), and quite a few misteps when it comes to handling the parks (you know, the thing with the face of the blue magical guy that replaced the fast pass), Disney has slowly been realizing they no longer know what their guests and audience wants.
And instead of sending out surveys or asking third party companies to do reviews.
They have to bring it in house, turn it into an event where they guage audience reaction at a panel, and then call it a day.
Because "no one can do it better than Disney"
It's really sad to see they're so busy being concerned with if they can do something, that they aren't taking time to consider if they should.
The whole D23 was a “what if”
At 6:22, you can see the caption "A Boundless Future: Disney Parks, Experiences and Products"
Pretty ironic for the "extravagant" plans they have compared to Universal.
I love that everyone talks about the Porto’s being the most exciting reveal of the panel- meanwhile my soup dumpling loving self was losing my mind knowing I’ll get to try Din Tai Fung next time I go 😂
Either way it’s a restaurant, so yeah lackluster moment
I couldn't agree more. Can you do a video on the downfall of Disneyland? I live an hour away and I just let my pass expire and I wish that I didn't even have the past that I just let expire, 75% of it was a waste of my money. I can't get on a ride, I can't buy food because it's too expensive and because you have to use mobile order and it's just too complicated. You know, a video about that kind of stuff.
Don't forget the exciting Tangled... Toilets at WDS in Paris... Boundless indeed
See in animal kingdom I wish they'd keep chester and gester theme and add two flat rides an a dino themed fun house to keep with the carnival feel...then at the nemo theater tear it down an build a bigger aquarium theatemd to finding Dory. Maybe build a crush coster an add a new finding Dory stage show..then in Epcot take out the aquarium an build a Moana water thrill ride
Happily Ever After is going to return to Magic Kingdom.
I think it is not so bad, at last We will enjoy Epic Universe and can use the Disneyworld restrooms.
I found the Parks n Resorts presentation to be as disappointing as one can get. Disney leadership, in 2022, is devoid of creativity! Chapek says the “Kingpin” of Disney is Disney+, I say… look at how Netflix, the KING of streaming is doing… they are failing., why would Disney want that? I used to watch Walt on ABC’s Wonderful World of Color / Disney on ABC and admired his creativity and vision. I went to WDW in 1975/76 and fell in love with the brand. I’ve been to every Disney park across the globe, since, more times than I can count. Living in Singapore for the past decade+ I also had an AP for HKDL and visited Shanghai and Tokyo countless times as well. While I’ve not been to Paris in a long time, IMO, the state or the US Parks is pathetic yet highly profitable. The fact that I’ve not received a dividend, since early 2020 has me fully questioning if Disney even has what it takes to get through this decade without radical, Walt-level, changes. With $DIS share price more than 1/2 of what it once traded at, they should be a ripe acquisiton target. However, a more competent corporation / leadership would never violate their fiduciary responsibility and take on that amount of debt. I’m so disheartened by the current state of The Walt Disney Company.
I read the thumb nail and just.. i love your channel man lol
When Disney green-lit a Figment movie but can’t be bothered to rebuild a complete overhaul of Journey Into Imagination. The current version is over 20 years old and somehow feels more outdated than the 1983 original.
I wish Disney would actually commit to their park ideas. This just hurts to watch.
To be honest, all of these announcements is nothing new and RUclipsrs were the first to tell them after it was announced. However, the name for tiana’s ride kind of seems more like it’s part of the Fantasyland.
Dad: Huh, Tiana’s Bayou Adventure that sounds cool.
Mom: Is that in Fantasyland because it’s sounds like it is.
Dad: Nah, it took over a mountain that has cartoon characters of song of the south but never actually references song of the south.
Little Girl: I love Tiana in Fantasyland. Let’s go meet her.
Dad: Yeah, the name of the ride is cool in only a fantasyland aspect. But in a place like Frontierland, it doesn’t match the expirations.
Little Girl: Let’s ride Splash Mountain after all it’s a hot day.
Mom: Ok, still an interesting name. I wonder if they will change the name to be more interesting. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure sounds like it belongs in Fantasyland. Guessing, that’s what they mean by expanding beyond Frontierland by expanding the fantasy expect in Frontierland. Which of course is not that much.
Dad: Yep, let’s go ride Tron. The Tron ride is much more interesting name than the retheme of Splash Mountains name.
Everybody nodded and agreed. A little skit but kind of accurate as well. Names are the popularity and the more a name is said in a good way or in a bad way. Good ways is means it’s so popular that it’s worth expanding the land. Bad way is kind of like Galaxy edge where it’s only one and done and doesn’t have any interests in expanding because it’s not that popular yet (nor will it ever be). Hope you have a wonderful day.
I don't understand why they is not a Coco land all ready. Because I doubt it would be unpopular
You said it
And yes. The overwrought, senseless, unbearable babble speak that comes from animators, Imagineers, and executives shows a completely bankrupt, insincere hollow shell of a company. Not a single sincere creative is in charge anymore. Only corporate profiteers and risk management lawyers.
Honestly, if we have Chapek at the helm, who doesn’t have a creative or imaginative bone in his body, there is very little hope of something truly wonderful happening at the American parks. Someone already said, if they can’t even get Mary Poppins off the ground, and if it takes 6 years to open TRON, what hope can we POSSIBLY have??
What if we just kept raising our admission fees charge for rides and charge astronomical prices for food snacks and merchandise and stop trying all together??? There will still be people linking up to give Disney money. Until it gets as bad as six flags, Disney CEO’s will continue on this path.
So excited for the Tron & Tiana rides though 🫣😍
Thank you...yes a decades, remember Bob Chapek only has 3 year contract. MK it be better to build out from toon town. Louse the small tent build. Redo the road in back straight in to small world service area. Then build sidewalk around a long the railroad to back area use the bridge for entrance to large ride. Rebuild toon town false front of mickey house and other then build new lands ( villains and other)behind little mermaid keep the service road and if done right you could have a new entrance for the parade route..besides have a ride dealing with death and tge underworld might be easyer on little one if explained though toon town.the whole thing would be inside the railroad footprint.. thank you.
I was surprised by the Hulk's appearance in the announcement of the character coming to Avengers Campus. I thought it was a positive thing to learn about.
I'm convinced that Josh D'Amaro is an animatronic, a real human would feel bad for doing such a poor job at being in charge.
I doubt Disney is gonna bring back “ The Muppets present great moments in American History” anytime soon, considering all the people who would try to shut it down because they can’t find any great moments.😂 They’ll scream that it’s offensive
Hulk has not yet arrived at the campus it has already been a week
They should have been honest and say we have no big announcements and not host a parks panel of no substance.
Bob Iger is back.
And what about the restaurants? Those wonderfully inventive menus have been replaced with fried or microwaved crap.
I KNOW WHATS BEYOND BIG THUNDER! ITS TOM SAWYER ISLAND AND IT BETTER STAY THAT WAY!!!
Okay, having Guardians of the Galaxy replace Universe of Energy is one thing, but shoving Moana into Animal Kingdom and Coco and Encanto into Magic Kingdom as well? They have gone too far.
To be fair, what these IPs would be replacing is basically nothing.
And a Magic Kingdom is already overflowing with IPs, I see no reason why Encanto and Coco couldn't go into a Frontierland expansion. It actually fits nicely, imagining that you are 'traveling west,' and then end up in South America when you pass Big Thunder Mountain.
The real problem is that Disney hasn't greenlit any of those projects, regardless of which parks they put them in.
Disney needs to bite the bullet and build a park in Australia
Kinda embarrassing testing the waters with these what-if concepts. But like if they seriously want to crowdsource their decisions, show us some REAL blue sky concepts. Mama ain’t impressed.
Bring back the Dreamfinder!
Would have loved to hear Josh say ‘another ‘what if’ most of you are thinking, even some of you dreaming… what if Bob Iger were still the CEO of Disney today?
Let’s show you some ideas and attraction concepts Bob Iger would have easily approved that the current ‘theme park guy’ wouldn’t…’
Bob Iger wasn't a creative mind either, though. He was just good at buying IPs.
Was at the parks panel this year, was a waste of time and my money sadly.
I'm confused by this video are you saying liked the new thing Disney brought or did you not like it but even though if you don't like I'm sure there was a lot of people who did like it
The pastries were not even good 👀🙈
Exactly..
Hey guys look at these pretty pictures!!
This was a terrible expo even by the standards of recent years. Disney's been in hard times after making the disastrous acquisition of Fox which I've been saying since it was first announced was a mistake and as time goes on have been vindicated in that belief. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and after 2 years of lower attendance due to we all know what coming at the exact time they did not need a drop in revenue, the consequences of Bob Igor's final years and Bob Chapek's limited ability to deal with the problem given Disney's structure means this will likely be the normal for years to come.
See you never Disney🙄
Disney is starting to panic and it’s showing. Such a shame how much of a joke they’re becoming.
I think they’re starting to realize Epic Universe might be more of a threat than they originally thought.
Disney future as a whole is concerning 🤣
Great video about a terrible panal. keep it up Review Tyme!
People defending Dinoland in 2022 never fail to make me laugh. Should retheme the land to South Asia and give you guys Indiana Jones.
I don't get why haven't turned Dinoland into Zootopia yet, it's such a layup idea.
Having a meet and greet or any kind of interaction with the Hulk would only be fun/exciting if it is the original Hulk with the mentality of a 3-year-old or so. Professor Hulk is boring.
This company man…this company. Such a damn shame.