I Hate Your Deck #45 Urza v Maelstrom Wanderer v Riku v Ghave || Commander Gameplay MTG EDH
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Chris would have drawn all 4 cards. Dragonborn Champion is counting the sources dealing damage to players not the number of players being damaged. If it were per player it would say something like "If one or more sources you control deals damage to a player this turn, draw a card" that would limit it to each player. He took an unneeded take backsies shot. Love the show.
Correct. I was like nooooo that’s not right 😂
I waw thinking the same thing
I immediately noticed this as well. Glad I'm not the only one.
Following that. Urzas tap an artifact for mana is still his own ability, and could not have been activated the turn he was tapped down by Koma
I hate that they don’t check rulings. Clearly said source which should tell them it’s per card not per player.
“Oh honey wrong deck” that was bloody hilarious
The dragonborn trigger I think is the first time Aily has been wrong on this show but it didn't affect the outcome. You all rock!
It happens often that one player has a strong fast start and other players can't stop it before its to late. Thats part of the game. I like that You show this episode and not just recordet new matches until its a more balanced outcome 👍.
If you find that decks in your pod too often are winning after they get an early lead, then your pod probably isn't running enough removal/wipes. It's fine if it happens now and then, but it shouldn't be the norm IMHO. I build decks around either running away with the game or stopping decks from doing that, most of my decks are very light on wipes but others run a ton of them (or other big removal effects like Phyrexian Purge or Curse of the Swine) and the use of them is key to the deck's proper function, they are explicitly designed to prevent an opponent from running away with an early lead. Most of my stronger decks are lighter on wipes, in part because they don't need them as much, but also because that power level cares less about having a board full of bodies and can win with a ham sandwich and mug of coffee, wipes are not very heavily played in cEDH for a reason, even as Hatebears continue to be a thorn in everyone's side.
Still, there's nothing like sitting down to a cEDH game and everyone else just draws a bonkers hand and you just draw a 'does nothing right away' hand after mulling a bunch, you might as well not play most of those games, but there is enough chance that your opponent whiff really hard (or go all 'crabs in the bucket' on one another, a common cEDH issue) that you probably should just play it out and pretend that you might win (and thus can interact).
Fear not the Blasphemous Act, for the Maelstrom Wanders on.
Holly shit, marine man came in and called in the entire US marine corp. on that poor table!
I really wanna see you play Ur-dragon next time. Great episode :-) Edit: Wish you did episodes way more often.
I thought a source equals a creature/spell/ or ability. So wouldn’t that make make him draw multiple????
Yeah it should trigger multiple times since it would have seen 4 different sources dealing 5 damage
21:13 DragonBorn Champion draws you a card for each source that does 5 damage is correct.
Keeper of Fables would be an example of how you could attack with multiple creatures and only draw one card. I don't get how I have seen game play with this card and people think they can draw multiples from this.
Always read the card! Key text: ''Whenever a creature'' vs ''Whenever one or more...'' :P
27:45 they could not have tapped their artifacts, as Koma locks down activated abilities, which is what Urza has. If instead Urza said "Artifacts you control have 'Tap add blue'", then it would work
I was just about to say this lol.
notably this is also why urza is broken XD the other way would be "balanced"
@@jcdb2582 Why is that why it's broken? I don't know much about the card so pardon my ignorance.
@@sparkfrog777 lmfao not sure what they're saying. Urza is broken and would be more broken if Tap for blue wasn't an activated ability of Urza. In a Cedh context, Linvala would not affect Urza as much.
@@fwop7436 just personal opinion there are easier ways of getting multiple artifacts in a turn by abusing artifact creatures. Also the token urza makes taps for blue immediately. Itd still be strong i promise thats why i did the quotes saying itd be balanced. But it would be more restrictive if they did it. Still broken but more restrictive
I have a Ghave and Urza deck. They have never seen eachother in a game and to be fair, I wouldn't want to play against either one of them. I'm looking forward to this game but I have a feeling Urza is going to pull this one out.
maelstrom wanderer gets dumb if there isnt a drannith magistrate on board
This felt like old IHYD episodes. Loved seeing the deck pop off.
Awesome game! I switched my Imoti deck into Maelstrom Wanderer for a while, but now I have the new Jodah which is just ton a ramp and a pile of legendaries. I just love cascading with big creatures 😊
I was expecting a second game since it was pretty fast
Slowly watching old shows through (as I'm newer to the channel) and love seeing all the spicy decks come out and truly bring the spirit of "I Hate Your Deck".
Doesn't using Koma to tap down Urza prevent you from using the mana ability since it's Urza's ability and because of Koma, Urza lost all abilities?
yeah they aren't paying attention on that I don't think
Wasnt the first attack against Urza player a trample 6/6 shouldnt Chris have gotten more treasures?
Sooo.... I need that malesteom decklist haha wow! I love cascade!
I was stationed there my dude Semper Fidelis
thanks for posting my commander game got cancelled tonight so im living through you guys today :)
As a fellow Tool fan I appreciate that Mike is always wearing a Tool shirt
It's crazy to see the decks being used here, because I didn't start building strong decks until about a year ago, but the three strong decks I made, in order of strength, are: Ishai / Jeska, Ghave combo deck, and Seizan, Perverter of Truth group slug. Watching Lynch run two of these same decks is both incredibly satisfying, and mildly jarring lol
"See people you can play Urza without those things" My immediate response "But why would you"
Koma tapping down Uzra would have prevented Randy using Urza's activated ability of taping an artifact for blue mana.
I've never seen Maelstrom Wanderer played, other than the 97 land one from The Commander's Quarter's, so this is pretty exciting, I also kinda wanna build Urza since my brother is building Breya, Artifact decks are fun! 👍😂
I like how they all missed the unwinding clock triggers 😅
Just bought this uncle sky’s hot sauce, loving it! Fun quick watch
Dam I wish I could see that full deck list shit looked spicy
Oh this episode popping off with that spice! Loving the content guys ! Keep up the great work 👍
That was fast! Amazing game and deck
That was the worst beat down by one person we've seen to date. No one else even got to attack
This mad lad cascaded into a old gnawbones, Koma and a tireless provisioner 🤣 and he gave them haste, yea it was over
that was a short game, but still enjoyed it :)
Cool Ghave, Maelstrom Wanderer and Riku in the same game, good old school commanders.
Ghave is Jah, such a underrated commander: you can combo, go wide or go big and my deck does all three.
LOL Urza deck...I have played against this commander at my LGS too many times and YES they use Stax cards in it= SUPER BORING.
Hey Christian is playing my deck that was shown on starcitygames :) same decklist.
Love the time warp! GG Mate^^
cascade is really awesome 👍
Good game players 😁
The Marine has protection from shots haha semper Fi brother
Never once had a cascade deck before, going to be building one now that is for sure. Just not sure Slivers, Abbadon 40k, or Maelstrom Wandererer.
there is also Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder
A resilient First Sliver deck is my favorite deck that I can't play. It can go from 0-100 in one turn and take over the game so easily.
Still at the start but I play my Urza as a self deck out deck and I love him in that for lots of mana
I have a Yidris edh that is unbelievably fast it’s probably
Only lost maybe 3 games out of 48 or so It goes off kind of like this deck but it has way more control bribery, blatant thievery, thousand year storm, talent of the telepath
You got a decklist fam?
Sounds super fun!
U should have a winrate around 25% in edh, your deck doesn't fit in your pod
Wrong ruling leads to Hot Sauce Chug!!! Ouch!
Crazy game. And poor ayli…
F for ayli. Hopefully next time ! Catch y’all on the flippity
Chris looking kinda sus in the thumbnail. Great game tho
Lmao iykyk
Looks like he got declined from Art School
Dragonborn ruling was wrong, it triggers for each creature. Cons Sphinx trigger was missed on both turns following the mega drop... Urza's tap for mana ability can't be used when koma taps him down
There was alot of action. The nail in the coffin (besides all of those), was the extra turn!. Christian that was an amazing game. The word “Degenerate” is kinda small. I would call it Pueco/Nasty. Awesome game.
You know, sometimes I sit here and ask myself what I’d bring if I was ever on this show. The answer is either my very degenerate Urza deck(sorry Randy) or Kwain Stax. After seeing what Christian just did, Kwain Stax lmao
Edit: I can’t leave out this banger:
“Oh honey”
-Michael Lynch 2022
Raggadragga mana dork Gruul combo or my Fbl-oops mono blue loop spells deck :P
Jinxed the table by pointing out he had not won on camera. 😂
"I'm top decking now" with a cascade deck and a Consecrated Sphinx on board lol
🤯 I never thought about a maelstrom wonder deck because he cost so much! BUT!! I uhhh...I might give it a shot now,lol
It's very VERY high varies. Sometimes it just goes of and destroyes everything in it way. But it can also flop hard. The problem is that people will quickly fear you deck and target you hard and it pushes playing stacks against it. That's really the only real counter. So in the end it might not really be fun for anybody. I have a friend that had that deck and he took it apart when he discovered how it affected the table.
I love this show. Ever since its inception I was watching the videos. But i can't get over the fact that Chris looks like Adolf Hitler if he was born just a wee bit later.
YESSSS!!! Awesome game!!! Way to go Christian!!!
Did Chris miss all his quartzwood crasher triggers
Eating chips during a math test? YTA.
Watching from Oz 🙋🏼♂️
Hello there!
SEMPER FI Christian. way to beat them down.....Get some.
I missed the live chat!!! Dang work. hahah Amazing video as always
I thought "whenever a source" and "whenever one or more" worked differently, but the draw trigger only happened once ?
You're right: as it doesn't say "one or more", it triggers for each one.
Lynch reminds me of myself in high school, all my shirts were tool or Pink Floyd lol bro prolly blasting off on some Joe rogan dmt in his spare time 😂 good taste in music tho my man.
Chris deserved this first victory, and this one was savage.
I fucking hate Wanderer cascade decks tho XD
Yes Ayli!!! I’m team colored hair!!!!
Dudes….love to see you guys play upgraded 40k decks
Yo my brudda in the tool shirt she be liking you
Don’t be oblivious my brudda
How does a patron come on the show to play
Hah... His deck box says Azban! D'OH!!!!
Great cast again
Best vid in a bit from anybody, nice and smooth sorry team colored hair
Another awesome episode 👏
I personally like Stax, and have a few pretty heavy Stax decks, some fast and some very much not. I find my decks gravitate towards control over time, and if you ask me I'd rather play against Stax than Blue Counters, ymmv. Good game even without the Stax!
plus Chris missed his Consecrated Sphinx draws
I need to get on here!! This would be the greatest moment in my life lol
Another great ep, will Kyle ever return for an IHYD match? He's been noticeably absent for awhile now
This is why casual battlecruiser magic metas need lots of mass removal, otherwise this malarkey goes down.
Awesome content!
Is the Marines this whole dudes personality?
Pretty much all Marines personalities are
Whenever "A" source deals 5 if you have 4 sources dealing 5 it draws 4 not 1 lmfao
Chris forgot about Sphinx and did not draw
I’m a degenerate Urza player and I cannot wait for Esper Urza.
Ich hasse Ihr Deck, mein Herr 😂😂 poor screengrab 😅
do they have decklists for these decks??
Grave is gonna win but Riku could be scary
When they said sandwich I went to get a sandwich lol
How to win commander turn 1 ramp turn 2 play a 3mana generation dork turn 3 play cascade value card turn 4 have 10 mana play maelstrom wanderer and cascade into 5 cards cmc roughly 6-8 take an extra turn do it again
OMG Ayli I love you!
Would love to see y'all do an Unfinity themed game!
How did the judge you have get the rulings wrong? Dragonborn Champion cares about sources not players. If you hit 1 player with 3 5/5s you draw 3 cards. Also Christian forgot to make 2 big dinosaur tokens on the turn he cast time warp.
At least he still won, but maybe you need a judge that isn't in the game?
Good eye on updating the thumbnail.
I like these games better, when everyone is high af and making mistakes constantly. Much more enjoyable
Just maelstrom wanderer things.. I have a very similar deck.
what is the UR dargons deck? sounds interesting
Actually I think I just realized it meant "The Ur-Dragon" not a Blue/Red Dragons deck lmaooo xD
Not my favourite game, that was too one sided. But that is often the problem of high power decks. If there isn't a control player around, those games become a dash to the finish line. That elemental is also notoriously difficult to stop once it hits the battlefield. Probably need some stake piece too really slow it down.
Great ep. When does the rebel ep come out?
Unfortunately it isn’t coming out. But we have many good ones coming out in the future. Keep an eye on our channel.
@@IHateYourDeck bummer, I was looking forward to it. I love the content, thanks for the heads up!
This is why I pay taxes.
Thank God for the Marines and everything you guys do keep us safe and keep us free God bless all the active members and inactive members and all those that have came before us and Fallen that have served in the armed forces
What's your spell table name? I swear to God I played against you the other day. If it wasn't you it was your doppelganger
"I don't have any fast mana"
Grabs a Sol ring.
yooooooooooo he fully shouldve drawn for each individual source that did 5 or more he didnt have to skylark
and also ppl should be able to pop without all the weird negative vibes an ting, weve all been there and the first thing said when ppl pop is "im so sorry" : we build the decks to pop
#normalizepoppinoff
but also i totally get being overwhlemd by turn 4 poppins, mary
When will you sell playmats with, "I Hate Your Deck" Logo?
If your turn takes 10 mins, you suck. Then when you take 10 mins and drop a dockside, you suck more.
Who was the guy with the purple hair? I haven't seen him on before.
The people on the show are great and bring a positive energy to the table, but personally I am not sure I really get the appeal of games in which one deck goes off on T3-4, another desperately attepts to to something to stop it, while the other players just look miserable because they did not even had the chance to play at all. I actually like this kind of high power explosivity in Legacy or Vintage, but I don't really understand it in Commander as it pretty much cancels the multiplayer and social aspect of the game (and in a singleton 100 cards format, there is a large component of luck in drawing the best opening hand).
Then again, I see many in the comments really enjoying this kind of gameplay, so it really must come down to personal taste.
I hope what our show can do is show people when a deck pops of like this you see what pieces they used to pop off so you will now know how to stop them. I do believe commander is all about fun. But for some people fun can’t be playing just the precons no upgraded which I enjoy. Or going full nuclear pulling no punches and seeing our crazy your deck can be. And everything inbetween. In commander I do think it’s about having that pregame conversation about what kind of game you want. It’s definitely social.
Big missplay with the Dragonborn